It is a matter of LAW, nobody is above / below it.
- even if you are POTUS you commit a crime, like being war criminal, after due process and the court and its system finds you guilty, you go to jail, black president or white president.
- even if you are poor and is the last survivor of a dying race of purple people, you commit a crime you get arrest and face the same due process.
but of course American is lawless, POTUS go free, black looter get shot, and things ends with shitty debates.
On the point of looting houses. Man A has a family and his children are dying. It is either attack another person's house for food and shelter or let his family die.
Man B is thinking of nothing but violence and taking what he wants for himself. As a result, he loots someone's house.
Which scenario is what people typically imagine? If you said Man B, then you were right. We are so used to thinking in our own selfish perception of apathy, we forget that their MIGHT be another side.
Whether you agree with George or not. To just up and follow everything you hear/see and NOT QUESTION it..is outright absurdity. Why not just simply ask yourself questions about what's dished to us? What's so wrong with that?
7:30 - Glassman reveals his real fear. A loss of commercially and politically imposed order - an order created by consumerism and stripping Americans of freedom of choice - that could result in him losing his hard APPROPRIATED capital...The fear that the general population will wake up and come knocking at his door expecting their hard EARNED dollars back.
I don't get it. It's kinda ironic how people accuse others of being racist, when people who support anti-racism which I am for, but when they get to be "so pro-equality" that they seem to only support minorities. I think we need to help PEOPLE, not Blacks, not Whites, not Latinos, not Asians. PEOPLE, help people problems. And especially in this day and age, people can not ever say anything about the black community because of stereotypes and generalizes, but you can generalize any other group.
You know what astounds me here? It's the verbal slight of hand when Bill defines Fascism... The focus is immediately shifted to looting when it becomes apparent that we are living in the very definition of a Fascist country. A poignant moment in which the opposition scrambles to obscure with deflection and redirection... Sad.
I love it when people victimize monorities,"oh no, he cant get an education, white dont care about them" boo hoo cry me a fucking river. I came to this country as a immigrant, went to live in one of the worst neighborhoods in the area I lived in, and i was able to finish HS, get a job, and got to college. My father came to the U.S. with $2.00 in his pocket, and found a job, a few years later started his own company. My mother is an adviser for a college. Minorities, cry me a river.
@Caine830 Cry you a river? Were you in a Force 5 Hurricane recently? STFU you stupid asshole...and congratulations on your accomplishments. But don't belittle those who have less than you have..you had a father who cared. That means alot dickhead. I can't stand when I hear fuckers like you talk about "how I came to this country" with how many subsidized programs for you as an immigrant..and you decry a few of your new countrymen simple human dignity? go fuck yourself.
@davehutchinson67 I live in South Florida, Hurricane Andrew, look it up. Now, if u would do the world a favor and shoot yourself, i would really appreciate it.
@Caine830 Good for you, buddy. What you have to realize, however, is that you're a minority within the 'minority'. If you want to be objective you cannot ignore the larger numbers. Yes, of course, exceptions exist. You are one of them. By your logic, the larger percentage of minorities are not working hard enough to succeed. A bit stereotypical if you ask me. Wouldn't you agree?
@martinperez1713 In order to have an objective argument we need to define "success". I believe success is is making it to "middles class". So, you are telling me that 2 immigrants that came to this country in their late 30s w/ no money, and w/o speaking the language, have a greater chance of success than some one that was born and raised here, speaks the language, and understands the mechanics of the country? (This is a rhetorical question)
The conditions to be "successful" in this country are there. All everyone has to do is realize what they are. A person making minimum wage can have a "successful" life if the money and time are managed appropriately. So yes, if people are not being successful it is because of poor management with time and money.
You spoke about being "objective" well in order to be objective, you cannot dismiss the success cases as exceptions. What has been done, is a comparison between similar "success", and "failure" cases, and identify the variant between those. Studies have been done, the variant in a high percentage of the cases, is socialization (inculcation). You can do the rest of the research yourself, since it would be too long to explain here.
Too many problems,too few solutions...those who have power keep doing anything possible to gain more power while making themselves be has big has possible while having joy to look at anyone who is poor...that is the result of endless competition,it causes people to seek to be better then another rather then to work together.
This leaves the few at the top with a government protecting them by any means necessary,while they subject the many who are left behind to become near slaves to the wealthy.
@village1diot Yea, every generation blames the one before. Good God fascism? Really?
The most pampered generation in history are just graduating University with their stupid change the world Degrees. The reality, there are not many change the world (i.e. Government feel good waste of money) jobs around these days. It's never too late but what is the alternative?
@SweetMintPie555 Well,that's called logical-prophecy,simply see where stuff are going.
George Carlin simply saw that has he looked upon the american world,with people who are addicted to malls,those who were brainwashed to follow the illusion of an "american dream"...and lets not forget the rest who just can't even afford to think because they need to survive the day with endless payments.
That what happens when you let a nation managed by competition-Those who can't keep up are farted up badly.
His news was biased in the sense that he did not report bullshit!!
I find it difficult to come to grips to what the real problem is....the dumb people are out breeding us! !! Fuck Black, Fuck White, Fuck Brown problems, we have HUMAN PROBLEMS!!! Forget reform of the government we need reform for society...
It is ridiculous how middle class white people consistently condemn the poor for taking advantage of food stamps, disability wellfare, unemployment wellfare, and etc. Meanwhile, they let the smart educated wealthy people use the poor to gain even more wealth and power. Eventually there will be too many poor people in this country and it will inevitably lead to revolution.
George Carlin said in other videos that he had lost faith in his own species. He was lying, look at his passion here!! Its killing him, the bullshit in Governance! Wake up and let the common people take back what is rightfully yours. Peaceful revolution if possible! If not, they have to come down violence!
The one liner I took away from this was "Germany lost World War 2, but Fascism won."
That's....... creepy. True, though. Big business DID make a hideously evil alliance with government to fuck everyone in the name of socially powered economic capitalism.
Now, I guess the real question we should be asking is....... "What are we gonna do about it?"
First step. Stop SOPA and every single fucking bill or law that sounds even remotely similar to it.
Black this Black that boohoo booohoo, we're poor.....why don't you ask the next Native American Indian family how they're fairing! Oh wait you'd be lucky to even find a Native American Family in this country any more. You talk about visible minorities how about the INVISIBLE one's.....the one's you don't see any more!
@TheGhanjamon what does one have to do with the other? When Black people talking about discrimination believe me, it does take in all of those disenfranchised. Understand, there are Native American chapters of the NAACP. Talking about one group doesn't mean you're ignoring the other.
@TheAbsolumER Yea.. although i like Bill Maher, his audience claps WAY too much. Even today his audience claps at everything. Bill has actually told his audience to shut up in many instances because they clap too much. It's hilarious.
Martial Law happened, the army was breaking into law abiding citzens homes and taking guns..........it was a total break down of the constitution and bill of rights! Go George Carlin!!!!!
fucking "african american". i worked with a TRUE african american. he was from nigeria. if your black, chinese, hispanic, mexican, indian, and your born in america, YOUR AN AMERICAN! stop trying to feel liek you need the seperate yourselves from the rest of your fellow countrymen in order to try to justify your whining for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. if your born in this country, then this is YOUR LAND, this is my land, this is our land. don't like it? go to china or korea
I noticed that Bill Maher likes to flash the Lucifer hand sign a lot. It's no wonder Bill Maher wants all Christians and religious people killed since Lucifertarians long for the day of the coming anti-christ and a soon coming New World Order ( a One World Government).
George Carlin is right about George W. Bush and the government not giving a flying fuck about black people and the poor.
I love how George sits there like the father listening to an argument from a 5 year old, knowing that ultimately no matter what the guys says everything goes aganist him.
It's time to give the loony Republican-nots a country of their own, I say give them Texas, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, Kentucky... and the rest go to the forward thinking, (not taking "back" thinking) progressive Democrats and we'll see in 25 years who evolves into a greater society...
@MyEyesBled Considering the states you mentioned are among the most fiscally solvent you may want to rethink that. As someone who identifies with neither political party, I think it'd be a really, really, really bad idea to give unopposed control to either one of them.
I don't get the crap about races, we're all humans, and we're all the same. We're also animals and to a degree should respect any animal as much as our neigbhours.
Bill: "Fascism is when corporations become the government, and that's sort of what we have".
Thomas Jefferson... said basically the same thing (if that was allowed to happen in his future through a diluted diligence) through private, yes PRIVATE banks.
I can't help to say this (but after seeing all the conspiracy stuff on the right pane of this page) the last REAL president, JFK was put down for going against this private control over America's money. His bills read "treasury" not fed reserve!
Can't help stupid people, sorry. Nobody cared about the Katrina, the locals treated it as an 'even't', a spectacle. They stuffed around, got smashed and want somebody to blame.
Buy a gun your government can not protect you. I don't even trust my government to deliver my mail on time. There is no way I am going to trust them with my life.
Poor people are poor because they are lazy. Thats the truth. Skin color does not matter, there are lazy people from every race.
@UtherPendragan Poor people are poer because they are denigrated by you and targeted by facilitys corperations like water and electricity as well as they're employer pays tax's and so can only provide x, y, x salary. Poor people actually sweat at work and are out in hailstorms making sure your life is oh so cushy. - But don't worry; I'n the end you cant' choose which 1% evade thier comeuppance, most folks get thiers in the end; its the rich that are surprised by it.
"...A break down in order..." So are we meant to simply do as we are told, when we are told, no matter what we are told? I for one like to think, to ask myself is this the right thing to do? Personal morality must be what guides our lives, not the rules put in place for the protection of the entitled few. Now i do not support lawlessness, but sometimes the law is just plain stupid.
Fascism is alive and well in America and it's because of the denial by people like the gray haired moron. If he and his ilk would have opened their eyes we might have been able to do something about it. Now it's too late.
@village1diot They're emotional choices if you do not back up your claims with evidence. Hold shit against the "gray haired guy" (Carlin has grey hair too...) if you want, but carlin/everyone needed to give proof for his claims rather than "believe it my friend". It's best to back up our claims, or we're just going "because I said so". Not that I disagree with carlin, just that the speakers here leave more to emotion than logic. "All white people think this", "The country is owned by voters".
People will step up and speak their mind like George did. The real pupetmaster will be pulling the strings in the long run regardless what the outcome may be...
Black people have been treated like shit since...well, forever!, I'm not ashamed to be white, it's purely cosmetic but white men have fucked up this world and created divide among decent humans for centuries. These people can fuck off and die in my opinion, they create wars, cause poverty, crash banks, manupulate everything.........fuck these cunts!
@mouseofscorpio Maybe people are starting to to live life and leave their TV off. The thing is, they want you to rebel now so they can cave your skull in with a baton or taze you. That gives them a reason to enforce a police state. The ultimate goal.
"I'd dont care what there race is…" god damn it thats bullshit, when a white man murders people, its a horror movie that makes millions in boxoffice, but when a black man murders people its the 8 o clock news.
@daviddevall you think you sound smart but whites are the real savages, be proud of your evil roots white boy your race is going into extinction by 2050
Holy fuck, I'm STUNNED! Carlin not only had it right before everyone else, but he had it right before it was mainstream or "cool"! (So to speak.) Hell, it didn't really catch on until a couple years after he'd DIED, and that had nothing to do w/ him! (Like, he didn't spread the belief.)
Really makes me wonder how what Bill Hicks would say if he were still w/us. Remember...he'd've only been 50 if he were still alive...that's younger than Bill Maher, Lewis Black, or even Jon Stewart!
no one in this video is dumb, they just think differently. People just think Carlin, Maher, and that bitches side is right because they see 3 on 1 and think whichever group is bigger is the right one.
@tommunist10 Like most conservatives, you should stick to one-word sentences. I'm pretty sure your philosophy on 'siding with whichever group is bigger,' is the way YOU think, not the way 'people' think. Also, 'that bitch' has a name- Cynthia Tucker.
Next time keep your ignorant, conservative thoughts to yourself.
@Minacious Isn't that cute? A liberal so wrapped up in his own thoughts he sees someone with a different opinion than himself and automatically assumed they're on the other side of the argument AND a conservative.
Guess what, buddy, I agree with Carlin and Maher and "CYNTHIA TUCKER". Just because I said people are siding with them because they have numbers doesn't mean that I'm against them... quite obviously
Oh and btw, you adhere to a group (liberals) Thanks for proving my point. ;)
@tommunist10 So you AGREE with them, yet you not only make it a point to criticize and generalize the 'people' who support their position in this debate, but you also make it a point to degrade the woman in this video who stands for it as well?
That is the most transparent double standard that I have ever read. 'Cute' how once affronted for your remarks by he who considers them to be dense, you cower by masquerading as someone who never opposed his position in the first place.
@Minacious I don't have time for this internet fighting bullshit so all I gotta say is I didn't actually mean anything when I called her a bitch. It was a joke I laughed at thinking, "wouldn't it be funny if someone is so far up their own ass that they take this seriously and try to preach to me about it as if I don't know women are equal or some basic shit like that."
What I'm saying, and believe me, I know what I'm saying, is people see the 3 "smarter" people and automatically pick their side
George Carlin is absolutely right. Rich White people don't give a fuck about poor black people. Think about it, rich white people started slavery, they didn't give them civil rights until the 60s, the CIA introduced crack into South Central LA (a black neighborhood) during the Iran-Contra scandal, blacks are disproportionately poor plus incarcerated in this country, and during the 2000 election Bush got 1000s of black voters votes uncounted in Florida because they had names similar to felons.
I dont understand why people are so surprised that they dont care about us. Its not a shock to me. Im not even complaining though cause regardless to what, I want to make something of myself even if the system is against me.
1:27 "The owners of this country are the voters of this country." Hahahaha! What a load of shit! When November 6, 2012 rolls around, the most productive thing I'll do will be getting my ass out of bed and going to work. These elections are a joke, the same bullshit gets fucked up and rehashed for another round every four years, empty-minded people fall for empty ideas.
Fact is every ethnicity has its share of fuck-ups. I'm Mexican-American, and I'm not blinded by ethnocentrism. Even I can admit that there's a huge population of Mexicans (legally and illegally) that are keeping us down and perpetuating the stereotypes. If you really want to succeed and rise above the hood, the ghetto, the trailer park, or the slums, you can. The opportunities are out there. It may be tougher now, but you can make a better life for yourself if you really want it that bad.
of mold then it is a total write off as far the insurance is concerned all that stuff that was looted would have ended up in the trash and the owners cut a big fat insurance check, after hours of aggravation and harassment with the insurance company ,the NOPD are among the most corrupt in the nation,if not thee most,watch all the frontline episodes about what went on and the police murdering blacks, and "ham sandwhiches"
oh polease white people were looting there too,in fact the police were found to be the biggest looters white police were stealing truck loads of petrol generators, and nagin did fuck up big time too, there were lots of bussed sitting idle before the storm he could have used, yeah bush is a nazi criminal but nagin sucks too anyone ,and who gives a fuck about the looting anyway,all that shit was a write off, the insurance was goingt o pay anyways, if there is so much as a drop of water or a patch
By the way, where is the rest of this video? I've only found bits and pieces, and I like listining to Carlin's views when they're not laced with jokes.
Minorities and their race woes are so boring to listen too.. Its 2011 almost 2012.. get over it and go help yourselves to all the opportunities that any white person has. In fact, go help yourselves to more..
The set the military out to control the public and confiscate people's guns instead of bringing food and water and getting the people to safety. In Haiti all the "right" US govt officials landed for photo ops even holding up provisions from coming in because Hilary was arriving. What have they done for Haiti? The people are still living under tarps. Their bullshit makes me puke!
As much as I like Carlin, kind of wish it was, because Marx would have wiped the floor with that ignorant tard, talking about class and class warfare.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "because Marx would have wiped the floor with that ignorant tard, talking about class and class warfare." - Really? If Marx lived here in the 21st century, he'd slit his throat. His entire theory has been destroyed. WWI didnt ussur in the Socialist Utopia like he constantly predicted. Communism has failed everywhere its tried. Marxism is a failed theory and almost every economic can tell you that. Marx died a loser, and thats where his place in history remains.
@GermanConquistador08 Notice how there has never been a communist country, only socialist states.
The closest to real communism are anarchy-syndicalist Catalonia and the Ukranian Free Territory Look it up.
Marx fails in his method to bring about socialism (seize the state, implement socialism and hope the state withers away). Bakunin and Kropotkin predicted why this would fail (power corrupts) and offer solutions here.
When it comes to class, he'll still wipe the floor with this guy.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "how there has never been a communist country" - its not that Marxism hasnt been tried properly (which is essentially a cop-out by ultra-leftists that it never has) its that it cannot actually be impliemented because Marxism is nothing more than a critic of capitalism coupled with false predictions. Marxism should have died after the fall of the Soviet Union, the signal of the failure of the "workers revolution" "anarchy-syndicalist' - A stateless system has only barbarity.
Generalizing one political term to encompass all bastardized formed of it is a cop-out. There have been stateless societies: The Icelandic Commonwealth, Free Ukranian Territory and Anarcho-Syndicalist Catalonia, that were perfectly orderly. I know you didn't bother looking them up because you speak about them in the simple present, as if they still exist. Anyone with a basic knowledge of anarchism knows these communities no longer exist and Chiapas is not anarchistic.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH The icelandic commonwealth first of all was a federation of Nordic tribes that eventually plegded homage to the King of Norway. Not a very good example. The Free Ukraine was mostly a warlordship under Nestor Makhno, and the Anarcho-syndicalists in Catalonia as well as the Free Ukraine were forged in war and destroyed by it. The only real existing example I can think of are the Zapatistas in Chiapas Mexico and they're dirt poor and starving the already impovershed natives.
I don't know where you get your information, but the Icelandic Commonwealth started with a revolt against the King and ended when they pledged allegiance over 300 years later. The tribes themselves were quite anarchistic and you had the freedom to switch tribe if you disagreed with the decisions made (which is more voluntary than any system today).
The CNT and the Free Territory were forged in revolutions, after years of harsh repression against anarchists.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Some FDA standards are higher than European standards. The fact of the matter is, these standards PROHIBIT drug companies to release possible cures and treatments that cant even be tested because of FDA standards and the standards also stiffle innovation and small buisnesses who use chemicals (beauty products are a good exmaple for this) who cant afford the legal teams needed to protect their buisness. Tighter regulations dont even relate to safer products.
I never claimed federally enforced regulation was good, you did. If you are now going to claim tighter regulations don't create safer products you are shooting in your own foot. "both have safe, clean drinking water, and they dont starve."
Wrong. One gets bottled water and filters and one gets fluoridated crap from the tap. One eats filet mignon, the other eats meals at McDonalds because that's the only thing economic slavery allows him too.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "I never claimed federally enforced regulation was good, you did" -I never claimed that, in fact I said the exact opposite. Your next statement proves that. "One gets bottled water and filters and one gets fluoridated crap from the tap" - Ever buy bottled water? It costs maybe 5 dollars a pack to buy bottled water. But thats besides the point which is that they both have clean water to drink. Also, not all states have fluoridated water and even so thats government bullshit.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH It was tribal I will say that, but again tribalism may be anarchistic, but tribalism has NEVER produced anything for the society or people under it. Also, you realize WHY the commonwealth plegded homage to the King of Norway?! Because of the dis-unity between the chieftens! "were forged in revolutions" -And were both destroyed DURING those revolutions. If anarchism is such a great lack of government WHY couldnt these territories survive?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH But thats CULTURAL. It has nothing to do with economics. "extortion" - On whose end? Capitalism principles like private property and the rule of law have FREED people where once they were tied to the land (in fedualistic, or anarchistic systems) or to the state (in authoritarian and communist states) the destruction of our environment" - Capitalism allows people to own property, no one will destroy their own investment of the envirnment.
The IMF, World Bank, Solidarity Union etc. Are you telling me these people are not economic tools of destruction? People in feudalism were tied to lords, not to the land itself.
Really, what about the Koch Brothers, who can pollute the water to the point where 2 people died and get away with it because they lobby? What about Exxon-Valdez and BP? Halliburtons shameless war profiteering?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "Are you telling me these people are not economic tools of destruction?" - People who saying banking industries are destroying the economic has no comprehension of economics. GOVERNMENTS bailed these banks out and use them for their own means. State Capitalism, also known as socialism, is the problem, and blaming real capitalism for it, is undermining the solution. "where 2 people died" - TWO FUCKING TWO! GO back to 1800 drink any water youre going to get sick you had to boil it.
State capitalism is not socialism. It's state capitalism. By what fucked up definition of socialism, by all the twisted logic in the world, does it equate to state capitalism?
The point is not how many people died, the point is they got away with it! People always tell me capitalism isn't corporatism, but with you, I'm having my doubts.
@GermanConquistador08 The rule of law does not prevent poverty, you do not understand what poverty is: I am proud of the fact that I have a much more higher esteem for savage human beings and for the human genre in general. In theory, top earners could have all the wealth in the world, and at the same time, poverty could be minimized significantly; it's not Capitalism that I disagree with, it's with the wealth that you promote that I disagree with.
@leadleader2023 "Corporatism is soft Fascism" -Corporatism is where the government makes demands and bailouts corporations on threat of nationalization. Obama did it to GM as a perfect example. Capitalism is nothing more than people being allowed to keep what they make and the rule of law to protect what people make. Thats all it is. Thats all it does.
Ask yourself, why do people create faulty products? Profit. These companies like the Koch Borthers don't care about their image (pollution) or if there are toxins in their products. That's because they enjoy the benefits of state capitalism, as long as the state gets rid of competition and keeps funding them, people have to buy from them. It doesn't matter if their product sucks or if they dumped 300 tuns of waste in the nearest river.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "shameless war profiteering" -AS opposed to governments profiting? For an anarchist, you sure like governments stepping in, employing banks and corporations and giving money away. "why do people create faulty products? Profit" -There IS NO profit in bad product. You wont buy a product if its bad and if youre not buy their product, youre buying someone else. Seriously, youre a real economic illiterate. And ultra-leftist countries like the USSR were the most polluted in the world!
I will say, that you do have educated views on most, there are two points I can argue of yours, but I'll only do this one. Suppose I have an extremely useful product, like say a tire that never goes flat, and never needs to be changed, where does the profit lie in that?
Initially you'll have a boon, because of it's sheer usefulness, but it'll functioun much like a bell curve. As more people can afford it, the more profits will rise.
@AnonymousJerkbag Eventually though you're going to experience a downcurve. In which little to no profits will be raised. Big companies do not desire something that can't net them profits in the long run, things like gas will never lose value, and can in fact go up. Then there's things like diamonds where it's value is artificial, not to say they aren't valuable but it is greatly inflated.
"For an anarchist, you sure like governments stepping in, employing banks and corporations and giving money away"
No not really, that what you'd like to make of it though, so you can attack an imaginary social democrat. I support no government. Please show me where I suggested to support the government?
Easy solution to the fear of mob violence: Be part of the mob (try to keep it toned down a little).
CosmicPorpoise 4 hours ago
thumbs up if you wanted to watch the rest of the conversation
PA1RofRaggedClause 1 day ago
George Carlin was incredibly wise. I miss him.
ZeusYourUncle 1 day ago 2
It is a matter of LAW, nobody is above / below it.
- even if you are POTUS you commit a crime, like being war criminal, after due process and the court and its system finds you guilty, you go to jail, black president or white president.
- even if you are poor and is the last survivor of a dying race of purple people, you commit a crime you get arrest and face the same due process.
but of course American is lawless, POTUS go free, black looter get shot, and things ends with shitty debates.
garytcw 1 day ago
I love George, one of my personal heroes, but this conversation is so one sided.
ronin4713 1 day ago
@ronin4713
We need people like George Carlin to help make this country better, not to help tear it down.
IncrescuntAnimi 3 hours ago
On the point of looting houses. Man A has a family and his children are dying. It is either attack another person's house for food and shelter or let his family die.
Man B is thinking of nothing but violence and taking what he wants for himself. As a result, he loots someone's house.
Which scenario is what people typically imagine? If you said Man B, then you were right. We are so used to thinking in our own selfish perception of apathy, we forget that their MIGHT be another side.
BokuwaFdesu 1 day ago
Bill Maher and George Carlin...
in the same room...
teeeee!!!!!!
0000Bronboa0000 1 day ago
"Learn a little something."
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FUSEDFORCE 2 days ago
"80 year old crackhead: [historically inaccurate bullshit about the Germans and fascism]
Audience: [applauds]"
America in a nutshell
p2eas3 2 days ago
Whether you agree with George or not. To just up and follow everything you hear/see and NOT QUESTION it..is outright absurdity. Why not just simply ask yourself questions about what's dished to us? What's so wrong with that?
MrLexanderluther1986 2 days ago
@ 1:45 Just listen and learn a lit' something .. OWNAGE
Atheist961 3 days ago
Giuliani was an idiot.
chinopisces 4 days ago
7:30 - Glassman reveals his real fear. A loss of commercially and politically imposed order - an order created by consumerism and stripping Americans of freedom of choice - that could result in him losing his hard APPROPRIATED capital...The fear that the general population will wake up and come knocking at his door expecting their hard EARNED dollars back.
triqueedru 4 days ago
I don't get it. It's kinda ironic how people accuse others of being racist, when people who support anti-racism which I am for, but when they get to be "so pro-equality" that they seem to only support minorities. I think we need to help PEOPLE, not Blacks, not Whites, not Latinos, not Asians. PEOPLE, help people problems. And especially in this day and age, people can not ever say anything about the black community because of stereotypes and generalizes, but you can generalize any other group.
BadReligi0nFan69 4 days ago
Ron Paul 2012
bostjankramar11 4 days ago
The owners of this country are the voters? lmao .....what a fuckin tool.
davehutchinson67 4 days ago
You know what astounds me here? It's the verbal slight of hand when Bill defines Fascism... The focus is immediately shifted to looting when it becomes apparent that we are living in the very definition of a Fascist country. A poignant moment in which the opposition scrambles to obscure with deflection and redirection... Sad.
u2shay 4 days ago
I love it when people victimize monorities,"oh no, he cant get an education, white dont care about them" boo hoo cry me a fucking river. I came to this country as a immigrant, went to live in one of the worst neighborhoods in the area I lived in, and i was able to finish HS, get a job, and got to college. My father came to the U.S. with $2.00 in his pocket, and found a job, a few years later started his own company. My mother is an adviser for a college. Minorities, cry me a river.
Caine830 5 days ago
@Caine830 Cry you a river? Were you in a Force 5 Hurricane recently? STFU you stupid asshole...and congratulations on your accomplishments. But don't belittle those who have less than you have..you had a father who cared. That means alot dickhead. I can't stand when I hear fuckers like you talk about "how I came to this country" with how many subsidized programs for you as an immigrant..and you decry a few of your new countrymen simple human dignity? go fuck yourself.
davehutchinson67 4 days ago
@davehutchinson67 I live in South Florida, Hurricane Andrew, look it up. Now, if u would do the world a favor and shoot yourself, i would really appreciate it.
Caine830 1 day ago
@Caine830 Good for you, buddy. What you have to realize, however, is that you're a minority within the 'minority'. If you want to be objective you cannot ignore the larger numbers. Yes, of course, exceptions exist. You are one of them. By your logic, the larger percentage of minorities are not working hard enough to succeed. A bit stereotypical if you ask me. Wouldn't you agree?
martinperez1713 4 days ago
@martinperez1713 In order to have an objective argument we need to define "success". I believe success is is making it to "middles class". So, you are telling me that 2 immigrants that came to this country in their late 30s w/ no money, and w/o speaking the language, have a greater chance of success than some one that was born and raised here, speaks the language, and understands the mechanics of the country? (This is a rhetorical question)
Caine830 1 day ago
The conditions to be "successful" in this country are there. All everyone has to do is realize what they are. A person making minimum wage can have a "successful" life if the money and time are managed appropriately. So yes, if people are not being successful it is because of poor management with time and money.
Caine830 1 day ago
You spoke about being "objective" well in order to be objective, you cannot dismiss the success cases as exceptions. What has been done, is a comparison between similar "success", and "failure" cases, and identify the variant between those. Studies have been done, the variant in a high percentage of the cases, is socialization (inculcation). You can do the rest of the research yourself, since it would be too long to explain here.
Caine830 1 day ago
Dude got a masters in BULLSHIT. You hear that shit? So outta touch. Facism is alive and well in the USA.
BookerT48 5 days ago
@BookerT48 Another great reason not to have kids.
MrBeautifulba1 4 days ago
@BookerT48 Yeah all you have to do is watch 30 min of cable in the US to know what fascism is.
kgradee32 2 days ago
The lady can't eat her pie without cool h'whip...
mrface19 5 days ago
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mrface19 5 days ago
Too many problems,too few solutions...those who have power keep doing anything possible to gain more power while making themselves be has big has possible while having joy to look at anyone who is poor...that is the result of endless competition,it causes people to seek to be better then another rather then to work together.
This leaves the few at the top with a government protecting them by any means necessary,while they subject the many who are left behind to become near slaves to the wealthy.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@village1diot Yea, every generation blames the one before. Good God fascism? Really?
The most pampered generation in history are just graduating University with their stupid change the world Degrees. The reality, there are not many change the world (i.e. Government feel good waste of money) jobs around these days. It's never too late but what is the alternative?
rxc128 5 days ago
Had this impending disaster been heading towards Florida,do you think the overall evacuation procedure would have been different ?
Its just a thought :)
naybobdenod 5 days ago
Oh shit. "fascism is when corporations become the government". Google/SOPA.
SweetMintPie555 6 days ago
@SweetMintPie555 Well,he warned people,didn't he?
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif He certainly did. It totally freaked me out.
SweetMintPie555 5 days ago
@SweetMintPie555 Well,that's called logical-prophecy,simply see where stuff are going.
George Carlin simply saw that has he looked upon the american world,with people who are addicted to malls,those who were brainwashed to follow the illusion of an "american dream"...and lets not forget the rest who just can't even afford to think because they need to survive the day with endless payments.
That what happens when you let a nation managed by competition-Those who can't keep up are farted up badly.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
George was a reporter,
His news was biased in the sense that he did not report bullshit!!
I find it difficult to come to grips to what the real problem is....the dumb people are out breeding us! !! Fuck Black, Fuck White, Fuck Brown problems, we have HUMAN PROBLEMS!!! Forget reform of the government we need reform for society...
cheechanchux 6 days ago
With NDAA facism came with smiley T-shirts and nike shoes
"Yes we can" now you know what he meant
kadanie5 6 days ago
It is ridiculous how middle class white people consistently condemn the poor for taking advantage of food stamps, disability wellfare, unemployment wellfare, and etc. Meanwhile, they let the smart educated wealthy people use the poor to gain even more wealth and power. Eventually there will be too many poor people in this country and it will inevitably lead to revolution.
Tikiman03 6 days ago
@Tikiman03 lol, even if that is what Marx predicted, I seriously doubt is gonna happen.
Caine830 5 days ago
George Carlin said in other videos that he had lost faith in his own species. He was lying, look at his passion here!! Its killing him, the bullshit in Governance! Wake up and let the common people take back what is rightfully yours. Peaceful revolution if possible! If not, they have to come down violence!
robieramjet 6 days ago
whho whants cool whhip
BuKuTyyy 1 week ago
And now we know that it was the govt who were the criminals in Katrina
clevawoman 1 week ago
The one liner I took away from this was "Germany lost World War 2, but Fascism won."
That's....... creepy. True, though. Big business DID make a hideously evil alliance with government to fuck everyone in the name of socially powered economic capitalism.
Now, I guess the real question we should be asking is....... "What are we gonna do about it?"
First step. Stop SOPA and every single fucking bill or law that sounds even remotely similar to it.
They get nervous when we talk to each other.
GoodAvatar 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
I am sorry, (ok not really) but blacks are just a disease on the USA.
metathus1488 1 week ago
that chick sounds like stewie with her 'wh' whords
Shek1337 1 week ago
The asshole on the left is a blind fool.
DSG3002 1 week ago 2
George Carlin nailed it!!!!! R.I.P
james140576 1 week ago
247 people don't know what the fuck fascism is.
chazmataz25 1 week ago 3
bill is pretty bright guy but george, there are no words to express his intelligence
SavisMaxitic1994 1 week ago
Black this Black that boohoo booohoo, we're poor.....why don't you ask the next Native American Indian family how they're fairing! Oh wait you'd be lucky to even find a Native American Family in this country any more. You talk about visible minorities how about the INVISIBLE one's.....the one's you don't see any more!
TheGhanjamon 1 week ago 3
@TheGhanjamon what does one have to do with the other? When Black people talking about discrimination believe me, it does take in all of those disenfranchised. Understand, there are Native American chapters of the NAACP. Talking about one group doesn't mean you're ignoring the other.
clevawoman 1 week ago
STOP , CLAPPING , EVERY , SENTENCE !
this crowd is driving me nuts...
TheAbsolumER 1 week ago 8
@TheAbsolumER Yeah, it's kind of irritating.
colddrake80 1 week ago
@TheAbsolumER monkeys
sourDeez2 1 week ago
@TheAbsolumER Yea.. although i like Bill Maher, his audience claps WAY too much. Even today his audience claps at everything. Bill has actually told his audience to shut up in many instances because they clap too much. It's hilarious.
VikTalks 19 hours ago
Martial Law happened, the army was breaking into law abiding citzens homes and taking guns..........it was a total break down of the constitution and bill of rights! Go George Carlin!!!!!
bigbaddawn 2 weeks ago
that guy was getting mind fucked
disturbedrocks1996 2 weeks ago
i like is how George is such a man in there. few words lots of impact. RIP George
6rasta6bhoy6 2 weeks ago 6
fucking "african american". i worked with a TRUE african american. he was from nigeria. if your black, chinese, hispanic, mexican, indian, and your born in america, YOUR AN AMERICAN! stop trying to feel liek you need the seperate yourselves from the rest of your fellow countrymen in order to try to justify your whining for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. if your born in this country, then this is YOUR LAND, this is my land, this is our land. don't like it? go to china or korea
IMN666 2 weeks ago
I noticed that Bill Maher likes to flash the Lucifer hand sign a lot. It's no wonder Bill Maher wants all Christians and religious people killed since Lucifertarians long for the day of the coming anti-christ and a soon coming New World Order ( a One World Government).
George Carlin is right about George W. Bush and the government not giving a flying fuck about black people and the poor.
freedomfighterguy1 2 weeks ago
At least Obama was elected in 2008 to balance the whole white/black circus debate.
ZeerosFate 2 weeks ago
@ZeerosFate Obama was selected mate, not elected..
cheekydonnie 2 weeks ago
@cheekydonnie The reality of millions of people cheering "yes we can" like sheep all over the U.S. in 2008 disagrees with you.
ZeerosFate 2 weeks ago
I love how George sits there like the father listening to an argument from a 5 year old, knowing that ultimately no matter what the guys says everything goes aganist him.
R.I.P George, You brilliant man.
MrPromiscuousBlisc 2 weeks ago 52
James is acting stupid or may I say pretending to be stupid. He is not,he is fox. Some mother fucker ass people are in power in this country.
swetlillies 3 weeks ago
It's time to give the loony Republican-nots a country of their own, I say give them Texas, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, Kentucky... and the rest go to the forward thinking, (not taking "back" thinking) progressive Democrats and we'll see in 25 years who evolves into a greater society...
MyEyesBled 3 weeks ago
@MyEyesBled Considering the states you mentioned are among the most fiscally solvent you may want to rethink that. As someone who identifies with neither political party, I think it'd be a really, really, really bad idea to give unopposed control to either one of them.
bjlayd61 2 weeks ago
I don't get the crap about races, we're all humans, and we're all the same. We're also animals and to a degree should respect any animal as much as our neigbhours.
omicida4991 3 weeks ago
@InsaneBillykane. BON VOYAGE
bruce91250 3 weeks ago
Rich white men have failed, and were out of time to TRY something else.
Fuck. Im going to Thailand.
InsaneBillykane 3 weeks ago
read the New Yorker....lol
trollingbiznach 3 weeks ago
Dude on left is drunk on the kool aid.
MrHypermoto 3 weeks ago
Bill: "Fascism is when corporations become the government, and that's sort of what we have".
Thomas Jefferson... said basically the same thing (if that was allowed to happen in his future through a diluted diligence) through private, yes PRIVATE banks.
I can't help to say this (but after seeing all the conspiracy stuff on the right pane of this page) the last REAL president, JFK was put down for going against this private control over America's money. His bills read "treasury" not fed reserve!
fireofenergy 3 weeks ago
george and bill? its like having a tag team of muhammad ali and fraizer
trollingbiznach 3 weeks ago 4
Can't help stupid people, sorry. Nobody cared about the Katrina, the locals treated it as an 'even't', a spectacle. They stuffed around, got smashed and want somebody to blame.
fcukugimmeausername 3 weeks ago
Cool Hwip.
doublebassheeltoe 3 weeks ago
George Carlin was the only person who ever made sense, or told us the truth.
SpiritsAndPhantoms 3 weeks ago
The dude on the left is such a prick, my god...
Zeldarulah 4 weeks ago
Like Carlin or not you can tell by his tone he believes in what he says. I wish politicians these days had that much conviction right or wrong.
Brunstar123 4 weeks ago
tyrone.... hahaha
panhead55 4 weeks ago
Corporations becoming the government = SOPA
rocknmetaldisciples 4 weeks ago 2
Buy a gun your government can not protect you. I don't even trust my government to deliver my mail on time. There is no way I am going to trust them with my life.
Poor people are poor because they are lazy. Thats the truth. Skin color does not matter, there are lazy people from every race.
UtherPendragan 1 month ago
@UtherPendragan You're wrong.
MyOverflow 4 weeks ago
@UtherPendragan Poor people are poer because they are denigrated by you and targeted by facilitys corperations like water and electricity as well as they're employer pays tax's and so can only provide x, y, x salary. Poor people actually sweat at work and are out in hailstorms making sure your life is oh so cushy. - But don't worry; I'n the end you cant' choose which 1% evade thier comeuppance, most folks get thiers in the end; its the rich that are surprised by it.
temporaldisplacement 3 weeks ago
"...A break down in order..." So are we meant to simply do as we are told, when we are told, no matter what we are told? I for one like to think, to ask myself is this the right thing to do? Personal morality must be what guides our lives, not the rules put in place for the protection of the entitled few. Now i do not support lawlessness, but sometimes the law is just plain stupid.
DezDemona30 1 month ago
7:45 every idiot in the crowd claps
18amirali 1 month ago
Fascism is alive and well in America and it's because of the denial by people like the gray haired moron. If he and his ilk would have opened their eyes we might have been able to do something about it. Now it's too late.
Revolution or fascism, those are your choices.
village1diot 1 month ago 37
@village1diot They're emotional choices if you do not back up your claims with evidence. Hold shit against the "gray haired guy" (Carlin has grey hair too...) if you want, but carlin/everyone needed to give proof for his claims rather than "believe it my friend". It's best to back up our claims, or we're just going "because I said so". Not that I disagree with carlin, just that the speakers here leave more to emotion than logic. "All white people think this", "The country is owned by voters".
Buddypalbro 1 week ago
People will step up and speak their mind like George did. The real pupetmaster will be pulling the strings in the long run regardless what the outcome may be...
spacetownman 1 month ago
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daviddevall 1 month ago
@daviddevall No, I'm Not. I am a God.
zivjax 1 month ago
Black people have been treated like shit since...well, forever!, I'm not ashamed to be white, it's purely cosmetic but white men have fucked up this world and created divide among decent humans for centuries. These people can fuck off and die in my opinion, they create wars, cause poverty, crash banks, manupulate everything.........fuck these cunts!
BatmansArse 1 month ago 3
Glassman interrupts too much
thecapitolwasteland 1 month ago
wow he talks like everyone else now days, but 6 years ago, why did no one listened to him?
mouseofscorpio 1 month ago
@mouseofscorpio Maybe people are starting to to live life and leave their TV off. The thing is, they want you to rebel now so they can cave your skull in with a baton or taze you. That gives them a reason to enforce a police state. The ultimate goal.
BatmansArse 1 month ago
"I'd dont care what there race is…" god damn it thats bullshit, when a white man murders people, its a horror movie that makes millions in boxoffice, but when a black man murders people its the 8 o clock news.
wippokeman 1 month ago
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daviddevall 1 month ago
@daviddevall you think you sound smart but whites are the real savages, be proud of your evil roots white boy your race is going into extinction by 2050
hurasane 1 month ago
Carlin is 1000% correct.
MakesMeAngry 1 month ago 6
*jaw drops*
Holy fuck, I'm STUNNED! Carlin not only had it right before everyone else, but he had it right before it was mainstream or "cool"! (So to speak.) Hell, it didn't really catch on until a couple years after he'd DIED, and that had nothing to do w/ him! (Like, he didn't spread the belief.)
Really makes me wonder how what Bill Hicks would say if he were still w/us. Remember...he'd've only been 50 if he were still alive...that's younger than Bill Maher, Lewis Black, or even Jon Stewart!
macgeek2004 1 month ago 6
Carlin is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kr0niXz 1 month ago
no one in this video is dumb, they just think differently. People just think Carlin, Maher, and that bitches side is right because they see 3 on 1 and think whichever group is bigger is the right one.
tommunist10 1 month ago
@tommunist10 Like most conservatives, you should stick to one-word sentences. I'm pretty sure your philosophy on 'siding with whichever group is bigger,' is the way YOU think, not the way 'people' think. Also, 'that bitch' has a name- Cynthia Tucker.
Next time keep your ignorant, conservative thoughts to yourself.
Minacious 1 month ago
@Minacious Isn't that cute? A liberal so wrapped up in his own thoughts he sees someone with a different opinion than himself and automatically assumed they're on the other side of the argument AND a conservative.
Guess what, buddy, I agree with Carlin and Maher and "CYNTHIA TUCKER". Just because I said people are siding with them because they have numbers doesn't mean that I'm against them... quite obviously
Oh and btw, you adhere to a group (liberals) Thanks for proving my point. ;)
tommunist10 1 month ago
@tommunist10 So you AGREE with them, yet you not only make it a point to criticize and generalize the 'people' who support their position in this debate, but you also make it a point to degrade the woman in this video who stands for it as well?
That is the most transparent double standard that I have ever read. 'Cute' how once affronted for your remarks by he who considers them to be dense, you cower by masquerading as someone who never opposed his position in the first place.
Minacious 1 month ago
@Minacious I don't have time for this internet fighting bullshit so all I gotta say is I didn't actually mean anything when I called her a bitch. It was a joke I laughed at thinking, "wouldn't it be funny if someone is so far up their own ass that they take this seriously and try to preach to me about it as if I don't know women are equal or some basic shit like that."
What I'm saying, and believe me, I know what I'm saying, is people see the 3 "smarter" people and automatically pick their side
tommunist10 1 month ago
@tommunist10 haha I like how you just label the female as bitch
symetricbody 1 month ago
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George Carlin is absolutely right. Rich White people don't give a fuck about poor black people. Think about it, rich white people started slavery, they didn't give them civil rights until the 60s, the CIA introduced crack into South Central LA (a black neighborhood) during the Iran-Contra scandal, blacks are disproportionately poor plus incarcerated in this country, and during the 2000 election Bush got 1000s of black voters votes uncounted in Florida because they had names similar to felons.
rustyschackleford100 1 month ago
The man on left is so stupid .. i feel sad for him .
arshdeep79 1 month ago 2
James Glassman is blind. He doesn't have the capacity to understand anything but his own opinion, which is based on narrow minded arrogance.
DepthCharg3 1 month ago 3
I dont understand why people are so surprised that they dont care about us. Its not a shock to me. Im not even complaining though cause regardless to what, I want to make something of myself even if the system is against me.
BrooklynJEW7 1 month ago
Carlin put him in his place.
BrooklynJEW7 1 month ago
This video explains perfectly why they put Obama in charge.
Glassframe 1 month ago
1:27 "The owners of this country are the voters of this country." Hahahaha! What a load of shit! When November 6, 2012 rolls around, the most productive thing I'll do will be getting my ass out of bed and going to work. These elections are a joke, the same bullshit gets fucked up and rehashed for another round every four years, empty-minded people fall for empty ideas.
madtexan89 1 month ago
I wish he were alive to speak on the current state of things.
deathofsmokey 1 month ago
@zivjax they try to keep us divided so we keep fussing and fighting
infowazz 1 month ago
Fact is every ethnicity has its share of fuck-ups. I'm Mexican-American, and I'm not blinded by ethnocentrism. Even I can admit that there's a huge population of Mexicans (legally and illegally) that are keeping us down and perpetuating the stereotypes. If you really want to succeed and rise above the hood, the ghetto, the trailer park, or the slums, you can. The opportunities are out there. It may be tougher now, but you can make a better life for yourself if you really want it that bad.
sidearmsalpha 1 month ago 3
of mold then it is a total write off as far the insurance is concerned all that stuff that was looted would have ended up in the trash and the owners cut a big fat insurance check, after hours of aggravation and harassment with the insurance company ,the NOPD are among the most corrupt in the nation,if not thee most,watch all the frontline episodes about what went on and the police murdering blacks, and "ham sandwhiches"
bulletproof2353 1 month ago
oh polease white people were looting there too,in fact the police were found to be the biggest looters white police were stealing truck loads of petrol generators, and nagin did fuck up big time too, there were lots of bussed sitting idle before the storm he could have used, yeah bush is a nazi criminal but nagin sucks too anyone ,and who gives a fuck about the looting anyway,all that shit was a write off, the insurance was goingt o pay anyways, if there is so much as a drop of water or a patch
bulletproof2353 1 month ago
George is a bit of a dick here, but he's right.
TheCroatiaKid 1 month ago in playlist GEORGE CARLIN
That is not hwhat happened in New Orleeins.
themidnightgardener 1 month ago
Infowars.com says everything George carlin is saying please wake up your soul depends on it god help us
EddiefbutlerIII 1 month ago
@EddiefbutlerIII Oh please don't contaminate George Carlin with some Alex Jones shit.
pickledouche 1 month ago
OMG where can I watch the rest of this???
eujeeves 1 month ago
george eerily predicted 2011. RIP, bittersweet you arent here to live in this shithole country anymore.
pinkycheeks 1 month ago
Don't expect black people to climb up the social ladder instantly.
Not because there are proportionally more black people in the lower classes that it means racism is keeping them there.
There are proportionally more black people in lower classes because there were more black people in lower classes.
(I'm from Belgium, so I'm a democrat in perspective to the USA)
meandi02 1 month ago 25
@meandi02 Hoppa! Een landgenoot van me op een George Carlin video :) Dat kan volgens mij niet zo slecht zijn ^^
texasB666 1 month ago
R.I.P. George, you are dearly missed.
sevadaj 1 month ago
Not that it needs to be said but, George we all miss you...
xxYetterxx 1 month ago
Glassman got pawned !!!! : D !!!
DOWSOE 1 month ago
fuck the 10 minute limit
beyondtheevils 1 month ago
"I dont care if you love me..." - I love you George - RIP
MyMrBoots 1 month ago 101
@MyMrBoots word man, word !
DOWSOE 1 month ago
@MyMrBoots "It is better to be hated for what you are, then loved for what you are not."
temporaldisplacement 3 weeks ago
a break down in order is exactly what america needs to change the path it is on
BxoxbxbxyxBxoxy 1 month ago
yep
TheSonyb90 1 month ago
WOW SHUT UP FUCKING HELL
sandchild88 1 month ago
By the way, where is the rest of this video? I've only found bits and pieces, and I like listining to Carlin's views when they're not laced with jokes.
Although I find him hilarious.
AnonymousJerkbag 1 month ago
i think German needs to tone it down a notch, this is Youtube not the G8 summit
Acquisto 1 month ago
the American people stopped being the owners of this country years and years ago
bordone 1 month ago
white haired old guy James doesn't HEAR, doesn't GET IT.....LISTEN UP, selective hearing and understanding, doesn't even attempt to TRY to listen....
bluesintheblood 1 month ago
we meet again 240p
Sxramble 1 month ago
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Sxramble 1 month ago
James Glassman is a douchebag.
mike112769 1 month ago
What's the name of the interviewer? Which program is this one?
dann1728 1 month ago
Minorities and their race woes are so boring to listen too.. Its 2011 almost 2012.. get over it and go help yourselves to all the opportunities that any white person has. In fact, go help yourselves to more..
A801506 1 month ago
The set the military out to control the public and confiscate people's guns instead of bringing food and water and getting the people to safety. In Haiti all the "right" US govt officials landed for photo ops even holding up provisions from coming in because Hilary was arriving. What have they done for Haiti? The people are still living under tarps. Their bullshit makes me puke!
rosiethebear300 2 months ago
Excellent video!
rosiethebear300 2 months ago
C-c-c-combo breaker.
heyyyyyynow 2 months ago
"Is this Karl Marx talking?"
As much as I like Carlin, kind of wish it was, because Marx would have wiped the floor with that ignorant tard, talking about class and class warfare.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 2 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "because Marx would have wiped the floor with that ignorant tard, talking about class and class warfare." - Really? If Marx lived here in the 21st century, he'd slit his throat. His entire theory has been destroyed. WWI didnt ussur in the Socialist Utopia like he constantly predicted. Communism has failed everywhere its tried. Marxism is a failed theory and almost every economic can tell you that. Marx died a loser, and thats where his place in history remains.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@GermanConquistador08 Notice how there has never been a communist country, only socialist states.
The closest to real communism are anarchy-syndicalist Catalonia and the Ukranian Free Territory Look it up.
Marx fails in his method to bring about socialism (seize the state, implement socialism and hope the state withers away). Bakunin and Kropotkin predicted why this would fail (power corrupts) and offer solutions here.
When it comes to class, he'll still wipe the floor with this guy.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 2 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "how there has never been a communist country" - its not that Marxism hasnt been tried properly (which is essentially a cop-out by ultra-leftists that it never has) its that it cannot actually be impliemented because Marxism is nothing more than a critic of capitalism coupled with false predictions. Marxism should have died after the fall of the Soviet Union, the signal of the failure of the "workers revolution" "anarchy-syndicalist' - A stateless system has only barbarity.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
Generalizing one political term to encompass all bastardized formed of it is a cop-out. There have been stateless societies: The Icelandic Commonwealth, Free Ukranian Territory and Anarcho-Syndicalist Catalonia, that were perfectly orderly. I know you didn't bother looking them up because you speak about them in the simple present, as if they still exist. Anyone with a basic knowledge of anarchism knows these communities no longer exist and Chiapas is not anarchistic.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH The icelandic commonwealth first of all was a federation of Nordic tribes that eventually plegded homage to the King of Norway. Not a very good example. The Free Ukraine was mostly a warlordship under Nestor Makhno, and the Anarcho-syndicalists in Catalonia as well as the Free Ukraine were forged in war and destroyed by it. The only real existing example I can think of are the Zapatistas in Chiapas Mexico and they're dirt poor and starving the already impovershed natives.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
I don't know where you get your information, but the Icelandic Commonwealth started with a revolt against the King and ended when they pledged allegiance over 300 years later. The tribes themselves were quite anarchistic and you had the freedom to switch tribe if you disagreed with the decisions made (which is more voluntary than any system today).
The CNT and the Free Territory were forged in revolutions, after years of harsh repression against anarchists.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Some FDA standards are higher than European standards. The fact of the matter is, these standards PROHIBIT drug companies to release possible cures and treatments that cant even be tested because of FDA standards and the standards also stiffle innovation and small buisnesses who use chemicals (beauty products are a good exmaple for this) who cant afford the legal teams needed to protect their buisness. Tighter regulations dont even relate to safer products.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
I never claimed federally enforced regulation was good, you did. If you are now going to claim tighter regulations don't create safer products you are shooting in your own foot. "both have safe, clean drinking water, and they dont starve."
Wrong. One gets bottled water and filters and one gets fluoridated crap from the tap. One eats filet mignon, the other eats meals at McDonalds because that's the only thing economic slavery allows him too.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "I never claimed federally enforced regulation was good, you did" -I never claimed that, in fact I said the exact opposite. Your next statement proves that. "One gets bottled water and filters and one gets fluoridated crap from the tap" - Ever buy bottled water? It costs maybe 5 dollars a pack to buy bottled water. But thats besides the point which is that they both have clean water to drink. Also, not all states have fluoridated water and even so thats government bullshit.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH It was tribal I will say that, but again tribalism may be anarchistic, but tribalism has NEVER produced anything for the society or people under it. Also, you realize WHY the commonwealth plegded homage to the King of Norway?! Because of the dis-unity between the chieftens! "were forged in revolutions" -And were both destroyed DURING those revolutions. If anarchism is such a great lack of government WHY couldnt these territories survive?
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH But thats CULTURAL. It has nothing to do with economics. "extortion" - On whose end? Capitalism principles like private property and the rule of law have FREED people where once they were tied to the land (in fedualistic, or anarchistic systems) or to the state (in authoritarian and communist states) the destruction of our environment" - Capitalism allows people to own property, no one will destroy their own investment of the envirnment.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
The IMF, World Bank, Solidarity Union etc. Are you telling me these people are not economic tools of destruction? People in feudalism were tied to lords, not to the land itself.
Really, what about the Koch Brothers, who can pollute the water to the point where 2 people died and get away with it because they lobby? What about Exxon-Valdez and BP? Halliburtons shameless war profiteering?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "Are you telling me these people are not economic tools of destruction?" - People who saying banking industries are destroying the economic has no comprehension of economics. GOVERNMENTS bailed these banks out and use them for their own means. State Capitalism, also known as socialism, is the problem, and blaming real capitalism for it, is undermining the solution. "where 2 people died" - TWO FUCKING TWO! GO back to 1800 drink any water youre going to get sick you had to boil it.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
State capitalism is not socialism. It's state capitalism. By what fucked up definition of socialism, by all the twisted logic in the world, does it equate to state capitalism?
The point is not how many people died, the point is they got away with it! People always tell me capitalism isn't corporatism, but with you, I'm having my doubts.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08 The rule of law does not prevent poverty, you do not understand what poverty is: I am proud of the fact that I have a much more higher esteem for savage human beings and for the human genre in general. In theory, top earners could have all the wealth in the world, and at the same time, poverty could be minimized significantly; it's not Capitalism that I disagree with, it's with the wealth that you promote that I disagree with.
leadleader2023 1 month ago
@leadleader2023 "Corporatism is soft Fascism" -Corporatism is where the government makes demands and bailouts corporations on threat of nationalization. Obama did it to GM as a perfect example. Capitalism is nothing more than people being allowed to keep what they make and the rule of law to protect what people make. Thats all it is. Thats all it does.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
Ask yourself, why do people create faulty products? Profit. These companies like the Koch Borthers don't care about their image (pollution) or if there are toxins in their products. That's because they enjoy the benefits of state capitalism, as long as the state gets rid of competition and keeps funding them, people have to buy from them. It doesn't matter if their product sucks or if they dumped 300 tuns of waste in the nearest river.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "shameless war profiteering" -AS opposed to governments profiting? For an anarchist, you sure like governments stepping in, employing banks and corporations and giving money away. "why do people create faulty products? Profit" -There IS NO profit in bad product. You wont buy a product if its bad and if youre not buy their product, youre buying someone else. Seriously, youre a real economic illiterate. And ultra-leftist countries like the USSR were the most polluted in the world!
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
I will say, that you do have educated views on most, there are two points I can argue of yours, but I'll only do this one. Suppose I have an extremely useful product, like say a tire that never goes flat, and never needs to be changed, where does the profit lie in that?
Initially you'll have a boon, because of it's sheer usefulness, but it'll functioun much like a bell curve. As more people can afford it, the more profits will rise.
AnonymousJerkbag 1 month ago
@AnonymousJerkbag Eventually though you're going to experience a downcurve. In which little to no profits will be raised. Big companies do not desire something that can't net them profits in the long run, things like gas will never lose value, and can in fact go up. Then there's things like diamonds where it's value is artificial, not to say they aren't valuable but it is greatly inflated.
AnonymousJerkbag 1 month ago
@GermanConquistador08
"For an anarchist, you sure like governments stepping in, employing banks and corporations and giving money away"
No not really, that what you'd like to make of it though, so you can attack an imaginary social democrat. I support no government. Please show me where I suggested to support the government?