There is no definitive V1 speed. It varies by weight, temp and elevation. It must be "figured" for each flight and load. even then a failure right at V1 is dicey. A failure at rotation is also a BAD day coming. There is a reason we are tested ad infinitum with V1, Vr and V2 engine cuts. we need to make the right decision based on known and calculated numbers. if you second guess or figure wrong- people die.
Plane reached V1, but not V2. Pilot pulled the nose up but aircraft did not climb, so he had to abort despite having reached V1. Either abort and increase his chances to save the crew, or push full throttle with a longer run and pray the plane gets airborne and risk his crew even more. Its really a matter of the lesser of the two disasters.
I sure hope you are right about them all being alive, however, with point number 3 on your list...you say that the pilot "Did not begin to fly up", however, at exactly 00:10, we see him do exactly that...he rotates the nose of the aircraft in anticipation of takeoff...
I know its easy for me just to post an opinion when I wasnt the one in the cockpit..but Im curious, why other airlines and pilots follow procedure, and continue with the takeoff after the V1 call, and these guys tried to terminate. The whole purpose of the V1 safety rule is that in most cases, it is safer for an aircraft to actually takeoff than try and abort a landing at such a dangerous speed. Hard to tell though, not sure if one engine could have supported this jet. Rip to all though..so sad
@jlebesis Looked to me he tried to takeoff, engine failure was just before past V1, but he couldn't get lift. It doesn't look like he was trying to abort, at least not until it was clear he couldn't takeoff.
whos the idiot that posted this video? description is all wrong..EVERYONE got out alive...and they DID treat the situation properly since everyone on board escaped with their lives
The russians never built planes like America! The 747 is the safest best designed plane in decades. The russians don't sell airliners to the world because they are crap.
The IL-96 and TU-204 haven't had a single accident in their lives, rendering them mechanically, the most safest airliners. The 747 had a far worse safety record than the IL-86 (which had only one fatal incident). The TU-154 had a better safety record than the 737, dc-9, 727 and md-80
Just cause you say it doesn't make it so. The russians hide most of their mistakes and have so done for years. The 747 has flown many times more miles than all the of airliners the russians have built all put together. I guess this "accident" in the video didn't happen either,,, right? russian engine failure are notorious and have the worst record in aviation history.
First of all, the engine on this aircraft were destroyed by a bird, though the Soloviev D30s had a somewhat problematic, well, problem. I agree with you on the safety record thingy, but the Russians are improving, and that's a fact. About the hiding, they have done it many times, although I'm not so sure about hiding aircraft crashes.
OK so we agree. My point is that the russians have always tried to hide mistakes and it's becoming harder to do now with no iron curtain. They have bought their engines for years from other countries because they couldn't build a good one themselves, they are better now but far from as good as the rest of the industrial world. the very best engines come from England and the USA for sure and always have.
Yes, although the Aviadvigatel PS-90 engine is an exception, it's a modern and efficient enigine comparable to the RR RB211 and the PW2000. The Soloviev D30s were problematic, but you've got to admit that they sound awesome. Since they stopped production of the D30, Russians have bought engines mostly from Ukraine.
Smokin!
Elven2k9 10 months ago
the guy sounds like he ist trying to sweet talk his wife
stillcovalent 11 months ago
@brownboybl89
Haha! For some bizarre reason before I go on holiday I have the urge to watch plane crash videos and then I'm all paranoid.
Mazza4Azza 11 months ago
fuck that,!! if u dont now what happen, then dont comment !!!
RezekneTZ 1 year ago
I hope they did all survive - the plane looks pretty messed up, was a big ol fireball when the fuselage hit the ground.
2JAMMY 1 year ago
There is no definitive V1 speed. It varies by weight, temp and elevation. It must be "figured" for each flight and load. even then a failure right at V1 is dicey. A failure at rotation is also a BAD day coming. There is a reason we are tested ad infinitum with V1, Vr and V2 engine cuts. we need to make the right decision based on known and calculated numbers. if you second guess or figure wrong- people die.
cmi2000 1 year ago
where the entire crew and passengers survived, blames a flock of seagulls, these planes are very strong, so the plane had disintegrated almost ...
pro100dim 1 year ago
Plane reached V1, but not V2. Pilot pulled the nose up but aircraft did not climb, so he had to abort despite having reached V1. Either abort and increase his chances to save the crew, or push full throttle with a longer run and pray the plane gets airborne and risk his crew even more. Its really a matter of the lesser of the two disasters.
musico81986 1 year ago
universal studio la.....
Eirwan95 2 years ago
they all died u fool
kurdman12345678 2 years ago
@kurdman12345678 they all survived!!!!
UltimateSonicFan0001 1 year ago
@kurdman12345678 They all survived, the description is wrong.
blueb0g 1 year ago
Man, this whole "Everyone got out alive" sounds like big old Russian propaganda to me. Got out alive my ass.
TadiR1 2 years ago
Lol the guys that are talking are actually the pilots of this airplane. Passengers got out as well.
MrRein1988 2 years ago
They are telling about what and how it was happening from their perspective.
MrRein1988 2 years ago
False information.
1. All are live.
2. The engine is destroyed by birds.
3. The pilot did not begin to fly up. A short airstrip and very hot weather. Military airdrome.
as43 2 years ago 17
I sure hope you are right about them all being alive, however, with point number 3 on your list...you say that the pilot "Did not begin to fly up", however, at exactly 00:10, we see him do exactly that...he rotates the nose of the aircraft in anticipation of takeoff...
jlebesis 2 years ago
@as43 Well, what is the 'true' information then gnat dick ?
vecuccio 1 month ago
I know its easy for me just to post an opinion when I wasnt the one in the cockpit..but Im curious, why other airlines and pilots follow procedure, and continue with the takeoff after the V1 call, and these guys tried to terminate. The whole purpose of the V1 safety rule is that in most cases, it is safer for an aircraft to actually takeoff than try and abort a landing at such a dangerous speed. Hard to tell though, not sure if one engine could have supported this jet. Rip to all though..so sad
jlebesis 3 years ago 3
@jlebesis Looked to me he tried to takeoff, engine failure was just before past V1, but he couldn't get lift. It doesn't look like he was trying to abort, at least not until it was clear he couldn't takeoff.
tf51d 1 year ago
RIP
Migs4000 3 years ago
ask me about the C-5 those are the largest planes in the world they have had 3 crashes total
Eversman1 3 years ago
and it was a bird that was sucked into the engine that caused the engine failure
unkowndrunkenfrankli 3 years ago
whos the idiot that posted this video? description is all wrong..EVERYONE got out alive...and they DID treat the situation properly since everyone on board escaped with their lives
unkowndrunkenfrankli 3 years ago
The russians never built planes like America! The 747 is the safest best designed plane in decades. The russians don't sell airliners to the world because they are crap.
alloutperformance 3 years ago
The IL-96 and TU-204 haven't had a single accident in their lives, rendering them mechanically, the most safest airliners. The 747 had a far worse safety record than the IL-86 (which had only one fatal incident). The TU-154 had a better safety record than the 737, dc-9, 727 and md-80
zedextreme8177 3 years ago
To russianpropaganda,
Just cause you say it doesn't make it so. The russians hide most of their mistakes and have so done for years. The 747 has flown many times more miles than all the of airliners the russians have built all put together. I guess this "accident" in the video didn't happen either,,, right? russian engine failure are notorious and have the worst record in aviation history.
quickieflyer 3 years ago
First of all, the engine on this aircraft were destroyed by a bird, though the Soloviev D30s had a somewhat problematic, well, problem. I agree with you on the safety record thingy, but the Russians are improving, and that's a fact. About the hiding, they have done it many times, although I'm not so sure about hiding aircraft crashes.
zedextreme8177 3 years ago
OK so we agree. My point is that the russians have always tried to hide mistakes and it's becoming harder to do now with no iron curtain. They have bought their engines for years from other countries because they couldn't build a good one themselves, they are better now but far from as good as the rest of the industrial world. the very best engines come from England and the USA for sure and always have.
quickieflyer 3 years ago
Yes, although the Aviadvigatel PS-90 engine is an exception, it's a modern and efficient enigine comparable to the RR RB211 and the PW2000. The Soloviev D30s were problematic, but you've got to admit that they sound awesome. Since they stopped production of the D30, Russians have bought engines mostly from Ukraine.
zedextreme8177 3 years ago
@quickieflyer rolls royce my friend ;)
AmazinJase 1 year ago