@tricome420 yeah pritty much all of them i have a 96 GS with the 420A to tell the truth the thing runs like crap and nothing i do fixes it so i cant wait to sale it for another honda. But there was a JDM eclipse it was turboed and even had more HP then the USDM one by 10 it had 220hp which im guessing is a form of the 4g63t never really looked that far into it but people were always saying there not imports when the truth is they have a JDM model
i talk to some guy who use to work at pinks all out, he said the reason why they didnt use to have imports was because "it was made to look like a classic car show" aka Muscle cars only. I was really surprised. Nice one speed Channel.
Every local track has a 30 cars or so running 6 flats in the 1/8. Youre lucky to see one import on youtube doing that lol. Let alone a local. v8's own the track, thats not even an argument. Imports can make quick street cars and thats it. Take them for what they are and enjoy it. If you want to get serious in drag then its time to step up with the big boys.
Another thing is most people buy imports because the cars are cheap and the parts are cheap. Not many people would be willing to dump $20k on a trans. to pts series race with. Only a hand full of people are able to take the cars to that level anyway. The market just wont be there, even if it were. not many would buy it. Maybe some day. Drivetrain parts are the only thing that make imports unreliable imo.
@comgeturs nah, imports just need to step their game up and not break every other pass. im a dsm owner btw. Go to an import shootout, the track is shutdown half the day cleaning parts and coolant/water/oil off the track.
just anything import. i was watching re-runs, and they had people that won the show before make it into the top 16 and higher AGAIN?
This show is a joke. I have lost all my respect for it and probably won't until I see another import, USDM (DSM's...etc) or something with 4 or 6 cylinders.
@toymachinefreak0 Theres a reason for that man.imports can be fast street cars, but they cant hang with the big track cars. A big reason is lack of real race proven aftermarket support. So we have go fast parts, but no one makes an import trans for a 1000whp car. Or a rear end, center diff, front diff, etc. If there were big money drivetrain parts for imports that would allow them to run consistently with like pts series then it would all be different.
@nallen100 aftermarket companys make trannies good for 1000hp most imports break because there owners pick cheap and fast. pick 2 cheap fast or reliable. Ive seen more V8s blow at my local dragstrip then imports. And I have only seen one DSM blow.
@numba1netsfan Then youve never been to any big import event. Like import shootout/ faceoff or dsm shoot out. Only 1/4 make a clean pass. No aftermarket company makes an import trans that holds 1000hp, especially not for a dsm. The 3k "built" shep trans still use the stock gear sets that shear off at 450lb/ft. Also no awd trans that can hold enough to pull a better then 1.3 60ft. Shep only pulls a 1.3. Kiggly built is own trans for his fwd auto that pulls a better 60ft then shep and its fwd.
Wow you guys really are biased. John Shepherd runs the Dogbox in his own car that is pushing somewhere around 1400hp and holds the world record for the fastest AWD 4-cylinder in the world 7.70 @ 191mph
@DigiTuben Besides their full "builds" are 3k+ that still use stock 91-92 gear sets. Take your own advice dipshit. Their dogbox trans dont even list a price haha, can you say 10k lol. 1400hp is still pussy shit when it comes to real drag cars.
Their Stage 4 is $2.4k and have been in many cars running in the 8s and 9s. A few years back the Dogbox listed for somewhere around $5k, what it is now, I don't know. But well worth it for someone looking for a lifetime warranty with no questions asked.
John Shep was limited on his certs for running his times. Besides V8 Methanol powered cars only make about 25hp per cylinder more then Sheps 2.0L. And weighing half what Sheps car does ... not very impressive ...
@numba1netsfan The winner of quick 16 last year(which is supposed to be the fastest class at shootout) ran a 10.6. That was slower then the winner of the "true street" class. Who ever makes it to the end with out breaking wins lol. Its pretty sad. Most import owners are cheap skates. Hence the reason for no purpose built race parts. With muscle cars you can go buy a 10-20k trans and run 6's in the 1/4 on it. Then a bullet proof rear end and run a few seasons on that set up.
@toymachinefreak0 At import shootout last year do you know how many times i heard "ok lets take another intermission while they get the track cleaned up."
i know the comments were posted months ago lol but I gotta chime in lol..
JDM Talon/Laser/Eclipse? lol.. These cars are the complete opposite of that They were made directly for the American market, by Chrysler and Mitsubishi, by Americans in Normal, Illinois. DSM was competing against the American Import market, not part of it. You Foxbody owners can, and should, make fun of the crap box they ruined the eclipse name with. 2000+ Eclipse makes baby Jesus cry.
Holy crap! What are we all English majors??don't tell people how to write. Not saying that it is a good thing, just shut the fuck up about it ka dogg ; ). Anyways 4g63 motors rock!
@toymachinefreak0 fuck i know it pisses me off soo much theres rarly a fuckin import on the show,i bet they only let that rex on the show , was cuz they thaught it would b out right away, n it would embarass the imports, well suprise it beat a shitstang :D
@B18CTurbo1 Yea but for the same reason i just said in my last post. I own a built dsm and even i know this. built muscle cars can run mid 8's all day for an entire season. A mid 8 import is lucky to make 2 clean passes in a day, without breaking, bogging launch, missing a gear, popping the motor, etc.
This chinesemunk guy is a fucking idiot. The dsm's aren't jdm you idiot they were built in Illinois. I also bet there isn't one jap aftermarket part on this car. Most aftermarket parts for the dsm and 4g63 are made in America like magnus, buschur racing, ams, jmfabrications and many more are all us made parts. So stfu jdm lover and go back to honduhs
HAHAHAHA I love this! Sometimes I think people forget what JDM stands for. Japanese domestic market. ALL, let me say it agian. ALL DSM's were made in Illinois. Any Japanese OEM Mitsu. part should then be appropriately called JEM. Japanese EXPORT market. I agree with buddah, chinesemonk is retarded.
Hell the 4g63 is in everything from Talons, Eclipse, Evo, Laser, Mirage, and even some galants! It's the guiness record motor a proven badass powerplant!
Do you know what a DSM is? Diamond Star Motors. A collaboration of efforts between Mitsubish and Chrysler, who helped design the Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon, and Chrysler Laser of the 1990's. The idea was cheap power.
@313foxbody420 wtf do you know? you actually have to BUILD it not just buy an already fast car. it takes thought and skill to upgrade tuners, but of course you wouldnt know that your just running your mouth like most people who dont know what to say when a 4 banger smokes your v-8....end of discusion DSM ftw!
whoah, i wasn't dogging on dsm's at all, so you can fuck off. i like 4 bangers that are so hopped up they can smoke cars with twice the displacement. believe me, i love that and think it is real cool. but i still like that classic rumble of a v8. i say why not like both.
your right about one thing, you gotta build these things and work em' up with tuning. and it is the same with a classic v8.
the only cars i don't like are the ones you buy already fast. anyone can do that.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
"Why can no one write correctly anymore? How can our school system be THIS bad? It's like we WANT the rest of the industrialized world to leave us in the dust. Your argument is horrible too btw."
Maybe you need to learn how to fucking write too, buddy. You fucking idiot. You should have written "Why CAN'T ANYONE" because "WHY CAN NO ONE" serves as improper grammar you stupid fuck!
That's what I'm taking about, finally someone representing for the Hard Core DSMers out there. Oh man the hilly billies are probably saying WTF!!! ,lol.
Why can no one write correctly anymore? How can our school system be THIS bad? It's like we WANT the rest of the industrialized world to leave us in the dust. Your argument is horrible too btw.
eclipse/talon/laser are domestics, period. the motor maybe a japan mitsu motor, but the car itself is american and only built in america(straight and to the point)!
Can the Eagle Talon or the PLymouth Laser run in a Domestic Class? Yes it can as it is a Domestic. The only difference between those and an Eclipse is a bumpers and side skirts, everything else is the exact same. Acuras are made in Japan where DSM's were made in 1 place only, Normal Illinois and were exported from the US. Dodge D50 and Mitsu Mighty Max are the same trucks as well :D
Educate yourself. Chrysler designed the body, Mitsubishi did the engine and drive train. The car was made in Normal Illinois and EXPORTED to Japan in very low numbers. Its considered a Domestic, 1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.S.A.(1 or 4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(S), Germany(W), Italy(Z) Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser are the same exact cars and those are not considered imports.
DSMs get such an unfair rap. I'd bet there aren't too many other cars with such a high percentage of people forcing as much hp per liter out of their engines. My '99 GSX has had zero problems in the five or so yrs I've owned it. Mainly because I haven't modded the hell out of it, and I take care of it.
lookie imports win yet again
donna2cool 4 months ago
@donna2cool dsms arent imports they were made by Chrysler. domestic
tricome420 1 month ago
@tricome420 yeah pritty much all of them i have a 96 GS with the 420A to tell the truth the thing runs like crap and nothing i do fixes it so i cant wait to sale it for another honda. But there was a JDM eclipse it was turboed and even had more HP then the USDM one by 10 it had 220hp which im guessing is a form of the 4g63t never really looked that far into it but people were always saying there not imports when the truth is they have a JDM model
donna2cool 1 month ago
they had an evo on the show called pass time but it broke on the launch.
iamshane12345 6 months ago
Talon made that pony look terrible, which is fine by me!
Necraeon 6 months ago
"pinks all out" so this is a dragstrip where you race for titles of opponents car? Never knew this was legal.
106MMTurbo 6 months ago
@106MMTurbo just the name of the show. I never seen them really do it.
azumaninjay 6 months ago
Why do you need a V8 when you can have a 2.0 turbo XD
fmxinsane 9 months ago
i talk to some guy who use to work at pinks all out, he said the reason why they didnt use to have imports was because "it was made to look like a classic car show" aka Muscle cars only. I was really surprised. Nice one speed Channel.
sonraz1 9 months ago
Every local track has a 30 cars or so running 6 flats in the 1/8. Youre lucky to see one import on youtube doing that lol. Let alone a local. v8's own the track, thats not even an argument. Imports can make quick street cars and thats it. Take them for what they are and enjoy it. If you want to get serious in drag then its time to step up with the big boys.
nallen100 9 months ago
Another thing is most people buy imports because the cars are cheap and the parts are cheap. Not many people would be willing to dump $20k on a trans. to pts series race with. Only a hand full of people are able to take the cars to that level anyway. The market just wont be there, even if it were. not many would buy it. Maybe some day. Drivetrain parts are the only thing that make imports unreliable imo.
nallen100 10 months ago
hicks you guys are spicks
1998LS1TransAm 1 year ago
Yeah seriously Pinks needs more of a variety..
comgeturs 1 year ago
@comgeturs nah, imports just need to step their game up and not break every other pass. im a dsm owner btw. Go to an import shootout, the track is shutdown half the day cleaning parts and coolant/water/oil off the track.
nallen100 10 months ago
I Like Muscle Cars - owned a 95 Formula 6sp but I Can Respect Any 10sec Car. DSM are Nice.
bluetopaz1205 1 year ago
just anything import. i was watching re-runs, and they had people that won the show before make it into the top 16 and higher AGAIN?
This show is a joke. I have lost all my respect for it and probably won't until I see another import, USDM (DSM's...etc) or something with 4 or 6 cylinders.
toymachinefreak0 1 year ago
@toymachinefreak0 Theres a reason for that man.imports can be fast street cars, but they cant hang with the big track cars. A big reason is lack of real race proven aftermarket support. So we have go fast parts, but no one makes an import trans for a 1000whp car. Or a rear end, center diff, front diff, etc. If there were big money drivetrain parts for imports that would allow them to run consistently with like pts series then it would all be different.
nallen100 10 months ago
@nallen100 aftermarket companys make trannies good for 1000hp most imports break because there owners pick cheap and fast. pick 2 cheap fast or reliable. Ive seen more V8s blow at my local dragstrip then imports. And I have only seen one DSM blow.
numba1netsfan 9 months ago
@numba1netsfan Then youve never been to any big import event. Like import shootout/ faceoff or dsm shoot out. Only 1/4 make a clean pass. No aftermarket company makes an import trans that holds 1000hp, especially not for a dsm. The 3k "built" shep trans still use the stock gear sets that shear off at 450lb/ft. Also no awd trans that can hold enough to pull a better then 1.3 60ft. Shep only pulls a 1.3. Kiggly built is own trans for his fwd auto that pulls a better 60ft then shep and its fwd.
nallen100 9 months ago
@nallen100
LMAO, Shep Trans Dox Box 1400hp and begging for more, research... end of story.
DigiTuben 7 months ago
@DigiTuben Yep and my sham-wow rag soaks up 10 gallons. Put 1400 to one and tell me how that goes. Advertising ftl
nallen100 7 months ago
@nallen100
Wow you guys really are biased. John Shepherd runs the Dogbox in his own car that is pushing somewhere around 1400hp and holds the world record for the fastest AWD 4-cylinder in the world 7.70 @ 191mph
DigiTuben 7 months ago
@DigiTuben Besides their full "builds" are 3k+ that still use stock 91-92 gear sets. Take your own advice dipshit. Their dogbox trans dont even list a price haha, can you say 10k lol. 1400hp is still pussy shit when it comes to real drag cars.
nallen100 7 months ago
@nallen100
Their Stage 4 is $2.4k and have been in many cars running in the 8s and 9s. A few years back the Dogbox listed for somewhere around $5k, what it is now, I don't know. But well worth it for someone looking for a lifetime warranty with no questions asked.
John Shep was limited on his certs for running his times. Besides V8 Methanol powered cars only make about 25hp per cylinder more then Sheps 2.0L. And weighing half what Sheps car does ... not very impressive ...
DigiTuben 7 months ago
@numba1netsfan The winner of quick 16 last year(which is supposed to be the fastest class at shootout) ran a 10.6. That was slower then the winner of the "true street" class. Who ever makes it to the end with out breaking wins lol. Its pretty sad. Most import owners are cheap skates. Hence the reason for no purpose built race parts. With muscle cars you can go buy a 10-20k trans and run 6's in the 1/4 on it. Then a bullet proof rear end and run a few seasons on that set up.
nallen100 9 months ago
@toymachinefreak0 At import shootout last year do you know how many times i heard "ok lets take another intermission while they get the track cleaned up."
nallen100 10 months ago
dsm= <3
wirtro 1 year ago
DSM beating up on some Mustangs, that's how it should be.
dre5491 1 year ago
toymachinefreak0 you got that right !
oldblue101rf 1 year ago
i know the comments were posted months ago lol but I gotta chime in lol..
JDM Talon/Laser/Eclipse? lol.. These cars are the complete opposite of that They were made directly for the American market, by Chrysler and Mitsubishi, by Americans in Normal, Illinois. DSM was competing against the American Import market, not part of it. You Foxbody owners can, and should, make fun of the crap box they ruined the eclipse name with. 2000+ Eclipse makes baby Jesus cry.
RIP real DSMs
96tsi 1 year ago 5
DSM Power Baby!!! finally a tuner on PINKS now they at least need to make it to the finals
MosquitonHeather 1 year ago
wasnt he one of the ones that ran faster the 2nd time and got booted?..I know that happend to 2 civics at different track
exposure1453 2 years ago
Holy crap! What are we all English majors??don't tell people how to write. Not saying that it is a good thing, just shut the fuck up about it ka dogg ; ). Anyways 4g63 motors rock!
lostmypicks 2 years ago
its because all the DSM kept blowing the fuck up and spraying oil and rice all over the track. it happened every show.
gunblade1499 2 years ago
dont you love how they never fucking make the show too?
i cant wait to see a dsm on pinks all out. they had a crx and a jdm soarer...
oh wait....
they are just scared cause the dsm would make all the muscle cars look bad. =D
toymachinefreak0 2 years ago 35
i dont think look is the right choice of words man. Looks is wat it will have. Now if your talking bout speed you might be right.
Toymachine( they are just scared cause the dsm would smoke the muscle cars.)
guayaba209 2 years ago
@toymachinefreak0
Not so much not seeing DSM as not seeing any well built imports.
Would like to see a few supras and 3rotor cars.
x808drifter 1 year ago
@toymachinefreak0 fuck i know it pisses me off soo much theres rarly a fuckin import on the show,i bet they only let that rex on the show , was cuz they thaught it would b out right away, n it would embarass the imports, well suprise it beat a shitstang :D
B18CTurbo1 1 year ago
@B18CTurbo1 Yea but for the same reason i just said in my last post. I own a built dsm and even i know this. built muscle cars can run mid 8's all day for an entire season. A mid 8 import is lucky to make 2 clean passes in a day, without breaking, bogging launch, missing a gear, popping the motor, etc.
nallen100 10 months ago
DSM POWA FTW
stracer05 2 years ago 2
This chinesemunk guy is a fucking idiot. The dsm's aren't jdm you idiot they were built in Illinois. I also bet there isn't one jap aftermarket part on this car. Most aftermarket parts for the dsm and 4g63 are made in America like magnus, buschur racing, ams, jmfabrications and many more are all us made parts. So stfu jdm lover and go back to honduhs
buddah463 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA I love this! Sometimes I think people forget what JDM stands for. Japanese domestic market. ALL, let me say it agian. ALL DSM's were made in Illinois. Any Japanese OEM Mitsu. part should then be appropriately called JEM. Japanese EXPORT market. I agree with buddah, chinesemonk is retarded.
BTW, Magnus is Canadian.
SyntheticSerenity 2 years ago
The drivetrains were Japanese through and through. They were more like assembled in Illinois. But The Talon/Eclipse were a great little sports car.
Blondets1 2 years ago
Isnt the 4g63 a Japenese Mitsubishi engine? Idk I just know its Turbo Eclipse and Evolution motor.
Kipcan94 2 years ago
that doesnt make it JDM. JDM means it was made for the Japanese Market.
tulsaDSM 2 years ago
Hell the 4g63 is in everything from Talons, Eclipse, Evo, Laser, Mirage, and even some galants! It's the guiness record motor a proven badass powerplant!
DSM666Mustang 2 years ago
thats the definition of a 2.0 liter V8 eater
alcoholic420zhotmail 2 years ago
lol. jap. beats us cars like always. lol. ecplise's n talon's are numba 1 in quarter mile raceing. non better.
chineesmunk 2 years ago
Do you know what a DSM is? Diamond Star Motors. A collaboration of efforts between Mitsubish and Chrysler, who helped design the Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon, and Chrysler Laser of the 1990's. The idea was cheap power.
TheApacheHunter 2 years ago
ha. i like that, cheap power.
313foxbody420 2 years ago
@313foxbody420 wtf do you know? you actually have to BUILD it not just buy an already fast car. it takes thought and skill to upgrade tuners, but of course you wouldnt know that your just running your mouth like most people who dont know what to say when a 4 banger smokes your v-8....end of discusion DSM ftw!
EclipseTurboTuner 2 years ago 2
God created Turbo Lag so that way V8's would have a small glimmer of hope DSM4ever.
ibanez4482 2 years ago 8
whoah, i wasn't dogging on dsm's at all, so you can fuck off. i like 4 bangers that are so hopped up they can smoke cars with twice the displacement. believe me, i love that and think it is real cool. but i still like that classic rumble of a v8. i say why not like both.
your right about one thing, you gotta build these things and work em' up with tuning. and it is the same with a classic v8.
the only cars i don't like are the ones you buy already fast. anyone can do that.
313foxbody420 2 years ago
@313foxbody420
like an sti
MosquitonHeather 1 year ago
and it worked good!!!
sk8rj514 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"Why can no one write correctly anymore? How can our school system be THIS bad? It's like we WANT the rest of the industrialized world to leave us in the dust. Your argument is horrible too btw."
Maybe you need to learn how to fucking write too, buddy. You fucking idiot. You should have written "Why CAN'T ANYONE" because "WHY CAN NO ONE" serves as improper grammar you stupid fuck!
mikevjp 2 years ago
time damnit!!??
DjayJohn 2 years ago
That's what I'm taking about, finally someone representing for the Hard Core DSMers out there. Oh man the hilly billies are probably saying WTF!!! ,lol.
turbotom20g 2 years ago 3
This was a great run! FAST DSM!
cheers,
-M
iammalloy 3 years ago
I smiled, im sure all the hicks were pissed :-p
tokyosmash 3 years ago 25
Why can no one write correctly anymore? How can our school system be THIS bad? It's like we WANT the rest of the industrialized world to leave us in the dust. Your argument is horrible too btw.
Nayr747 3 years ago
eclipse/talon/laser are domestics, period. the motor maybe a japan mitsu motor, but the car itself is american and only built in america(straight and to the point)!
thaandiesel 3 years ago 3
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chineesmunk 2 years ago
Wow dude you really dont know shit about DSM's do you?
buddah463 2 years ago
For being 23 and working at a "shop". You are the dumbest car guy alive.
stracer05 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure that words aren't suppose to be capitilized in full in the middle of a sentence...
tulsaDSM 2 years ago
Can the Eagle Talon or the PLymouth Laser run in a Domestic Class? Yes it can as it is a Domestic. The only difference between those and an Eclipse is a bumpers and side skirts, everything else is the exact same. Acuras are made in Japan where DSM's were made in 1 place only, Normal Illinois and were exported from the US. Dodge D50 and Mitsu Mighty Max are the same trucks as well :D
Boatright 3 years ago
Educate yourself. Chrysler designed the body, Mitsubishi did the engine and drive train. The car was made in Normal Illinois and EXPORTED to Japan in very low numbers. Its considered a Domestic, 1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
For example: U.S.A.(1 or 4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(S), Germany(W), Italy(Z) Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser are the same exact cars and those are not considered imports.
Boatright 3 years ago
Mostly Correct, the engine is Mitsu but the transmission was actually designed by Mercedes.
97redgsx 3 years ago
It was at Atlanta Dragway
coogy1234 3 years ago
was this at englishtown?
gdmbat85 3 years ago
nice!!!
silentkreeper95 3 years ago
i own a 90 gst.....and im glad to represent "US" DSMs...u gotta own a dsm to really understand what it feels like to have one.... go faster
!!!!!!!
Progressive559 3 years ago
Yes you have to have one to really know what it feels like to go broke lol... But you gotta love them lol
92DSM 3 years ago
DSMs get such an unfair rap. I'd bet there aren't too many other cars with such a high percentage of people forcing as much hp per liter out of their engines. My '99 GSX has had zero problems in the five or so yrs I've owned it. Mainly because I haven't modded the hell out of it, and I take care of it.
Nayr747 3 years ago 4
Very nice run. :)
hvillecobalt 3 years ago
Way to represent the DSM!
Boatright 3 years ago
nice, we need more imports on pinks!!
futeco87 3 years ago
Its a domestic made in Normal Illinois, everything but the engine/transmission is Chrysler.
Boatright 3 years ago
nice
stringfr 3 years ago