@rachouxlovelife Don't try to take advantage of people and you will stay out of trouble with people. Keep your silly comments out of my email account. Period.
@rachouxlovelife I have not gone back to find your earlier comment or mine. You are quite right. I am not alone in this world. My guess is you must have said something that ignores the fact that that brief marriage ended many years ago, and Michael clearly wanted to put it behind him. We all have rights, and ignoring someone else's rights is unacceptable. When a marriage is over, it really is over. Find some other way to have fun and explore your fantasies.
@sillysilvergirl1357 If you feel that way about the comment section, why have you added to the very thing you say you are objecting to. Second, you do have the option of not reading the comments below the video. You have deliberately chosen to read them, right? Third, is it really necessary for you to use foul language?
@kay8x Michael married LMP for public relations reasons. The media has always been fairly sympathetic towards the daughter of Elvis. LMP had told Michael that she could save him from being attacked by the media. When that turned out to not be the case, Michael was disappointed. LMP also did not want to fulfill her promise--which proved to be the real deal breaker. Michael was never in love with LMP, so he wanted to get out of the marriage. Debbie made that easier for him.
@kay8x Michael's marriage to LMP was a complete disaster. It would appear that you really don't know anything about LMP's background, aside from the fact that Elvis Presley was her father.
@MeganBrW "black man" are based on outmoded stereotypes that were a pain in the ass and a burden to him. Not that he wasn't genuinely proud to be black - he certainly was - but there was more to him than just the colour of his skin, just the same way there is to everybody, whether black or white. Michael would condier you a foul imposter and a peddler of false ideologies .. he is not ANY of the things you are saying he is.
@BDSaysHi Whoever MeganBrW is does not represent black women at all. Your comments opened my eyes a bit more. I myself have been "racially attacked" by those very "usernames" That you have mentioned. I must say that i don't appreciate that person attacking white women to make it appear as though black women are bitter. That is wrong on so many levels. I wouldn't be surprised if all those names were tied into one. I can't stomach that racist shit ....it is completely unacceptable.
If she really is a black woman, then she is obviously a very bitter one! Please believe me when I say that I grew up around people of all cultures .. this is 100% the truth .. I NEVER would have banked on the kind of CRAP I have been reading from this person, at first I thought she was intelligent but then bit by bit I got the "racist" alert, and then the "loony" alert!
@daisylicious101 Quite frankly, I am convinced she has been coming in under multiple user-names, arguing on BOTH SIDES of the MJ/LMP thing! Why do this? What's in it for her? She openly admits she is not a Michael Jackson fan! It's just fucking crazy and I am genuinely starting to HATE her (him .. it .. whatever!). Michael was NOT RACIST .. you can be proud of your heritage and your culture without being racist .. Michael exemplifies this. RACISM IS HATE and that is NOT what he was about!
Not fair to do this to Michael - spreading another myth to add to the other ones! He was "gay", he was a "pedophile", he was an "Elvis-lover" and now, according to this person, he hated white women! It's not fair!
@daisylicious101 Of those, very few would actually leave a comment of any kind. A few of those individuals will adamantly insist that Michael Jackson was the person THEY wanted him to be, and that Michael Jackson felt the way THEY wanted him to feel. This is the group of females I have referred to. I have never referred to all white females, as @BDSaysHi tries to pretend.
@daisylicious101 When have you seen any white celebrity, alive or dead, treated the way Michael Jackson was being treated by the vast majority of white female fans who commented on this particular group of videos? Do you think that is merely coincidental?
Look at the numbers. Most people would not even come to these videos, and certainly not men. These "love-story videos" tend to attract a certain group of females.
@daisylicious101 As long as black Americans, and Americans in general, remain timid about pointing out the sources of the problem, this will not stop. Taylor was not a racist either, and she was not afraid to say what she knew was true--even if that made people like @BDSaysHi uncomfortable. This is not about showing what good manners one has. It is about making sure that everyone is treated equally and fairly.
@daisylicious101 Michael Jackson in order to support him and his life's work. Although I do, even if I did not care for his music, I would have supported him as a black, hardworking entertainer doing the best that he could in a highly competitive field.
As his good friend Elizabeth Taylor said, "America treated Michael Jackson like dirt." This is an example of what she was referring to. Michael said, "This has got to stop."
@daisylicious101 Despite what @BDSaysHi would have you believe, I did not "attack" all white women. I referred to women who exhibit a particular behavior. Most women simply do not fit into that group.
I did not bother to read most of @BDSaysHi tirade. I'm sure I've seen it before, and I cannot allow her to monopolize endless amounts of my time. Among other things, she seem to be troubled by the fact that some of us do not have to be "fans" of
@daisylicious101 Actually, I am quite certain that I do represent a large segment of black women, other women of color, and many white women in the United States. (A number of women have thanked me for speaking up--usually they have been black women who understand exactly what is going on here.)
@daisylicious101 I am quite curious about a particular part of your comment. Why might it appear that black women are bitter? What would black women be bitter about? That struck me as an odd thing for you to say--so, I'm thinking that you statement must have come from somewhere.
@daisylicious101 Have you ever asked yourself "Why would any decent, intelligent human being--who cares about and respects the rights of others, in the same way that they care about and respect their own rights--have posted any of these videos AFTER January 1996"? @JRAR0405 posted this particular video on Jan 5, 2007. Would you want someone to do something like this to you? That is analogous to someone inviting you into their home and then setting out photos of you and your ex-spouse.
@MeganBrW in the video, Michael played the role od Darryl, the boy who is killed, and the story culminates with Michael telling these cliched black thugs "You're doing wrong, you're not "bad" ... who's "bad" brother? I'm bad!" Michael is shouting at screaming at them that HE (Darryl) is the "bad" (cool, funky) one and that they are just thugs .. he says to them .. "They're gonna lock you up before too long!" He was frustrated and annoyed by ghetto cliches. he liked the finer things in life
@MeganBrW Because you are not a Michael Jackson fan and know nothing about this man, you do not know that in actual fact, Michael was turned off by cliched blacks. That was what BAD was all about. Michael had read a story about a young black boy from Harlem that had tried to improve his chances in life by going to a prestigious school upstate. As Michael tells it, when the boy gets back to Harlem, his old friends were so jealous of that they killed him.
@MeganBrw Michael based the video for BAD on Westside Story and Beat It also took from this musical. One of Michael's all-time favourite directors was Vincent Minelli and Liza Minelli and Judy Garland were two big influences on him. Michael said one of the reasons he wanted to do The Wiz is because he loved the Wizard of Oz so much. Even when he made his speech against Sony in London in 2002, he took the time out to pay homage to Gene kelly and Fred Astaire.
@MeganBrW Of course Michael opened a window on black music, there can be no doubt about that, but that is a beautiful thing, not some kind of weapon that he used to exclude certain people. If he wanted to exclude whites then why was he so obsessed as you paint him with the "crossover audience" .. he wasn't about excluding, he was about including, he said "I honestly believe that one day all races will live on planet earth as one big loving family".
@BDSaysHi LOL I came to watch a beautiful song by MJ and got caught up in reading all the comments made by a few. Good debate of comments but I think you won out! Enjoyed reading your comments to MeganBrW. Words well put! (wink)
@texjoy56 Thank you very kindly. This "Megan" character is a real internet menace, I have recently learned that she (well .. he!) even hacked my PC, so do be aware of this person and his many handles on youtube - he even managed to get my personal email out of me before I realised what was going on. I think I put a list of his many ID's a few messages back. As for Michael - you are right - it is a beautiful song and Michael was a beautiful person.
@MeganBrW fucking with him like this. Clearly, the only thing you are interested in is alienating as broad a cross-section of Michael's fans as you possibly can, but the problem for you is that the shit you say is so transparently contrived and rehearsed. Like I say, in reality you don't know anything about Michael and that is patently obvious to even a recent fan, let alone lifelong fans such as myself who have followed his career since the 1970's.
I did not even bother to read through your most recent tirade. I am not going to allow you to waste my time with every ridiculous idea into your head.
Michael was attacked by an extortionist, the media, and a lot of other hostile, irrational, primarily American, white folks who used the exact same strategy.
By the way, (a) everyone can quickly determine who you are, (b) no black person would assume you are black, and (c) people are able to easily deceive you by simply pretending to be black.
LMP, DIANE SAWYER, 1995: You can't fake that 24 hours a day, sleeping with someone, waking up with someone, we're with each other all the time, he's running around the house, I'm running around the house .. we have a normal house!
DIANE SAWYER, 2004: Is it true you two EVER REALLY LIVED TOGETHER? I NEVER BELIEVED THAT!
LMP: WELL ... PUT IT THIS WAY, IF HE WAS IN TOWN, HE'D BE AT MY HOUSE!
@rachouxlovelife You've got SOME NERVE! What makes you think you can tell black people how another black person feels or what motivated his actions? Michael was as much in love with LMP as he was with Debbie Rowe! Legally, Michael and LMP were married from May 18,1994, until January 18, 1996. Michael was actually legally married to DR longer. He never lived with LMP or DR because he DID NOT WANT TO LIVE WITH THEM! Once LMP did not keep her end of the deal, he forced the divorce on her. REALITY!
@rachouxlovelife I am willing to cut you a little slack since you are only 19 years old and up in Canada, but don't assume that you can get away with saying absolutely anything about a black guy. You may want to believe that Michael and a white woman would make a beautiful couple--white female sluts seem to love that storyline--but Michael wasn't even sexually attracted to white females. LMP got VERY ANGRY when she realized he had no real interest in her. WHY WOULD HE HAVE ANY INTEREST IN HER?
@rachouxlovelife No. Think about it--why would Michael have been in love with and unattractive, uneducated, low-brow white whore? He wasn't. Whether you like it or not, the fact of the matter is LMP was chasing after him, so he used her. That PR-marriage lasted only a matter of months. LMP said that by the time they did the Diane Sawyer interview, the marriage was already BAD. She said she rarely knew where he was. They did NOT live together. Friends? They hadn't spoken to each other in years!
@rachouxlovelife Grow up, you moron! This was one of the scariest and saddest times in Michael's life. Two people who marry because he is under attack and she offers to help him do not make a beautiful couple. That PR marriage was extremely short and extremely miserable. The didn't get along at all and they argued constantly whenever she could find him. LMP said that she had no idea where he was most of the time.
@MeganBrW HOW SURE are you this was the saddest time in Michael's life.?? LMP HAS NOT TELL THE TRUTH YET. DON' T get mad about the whole thing, every one is entitle to have an opinion.
@lorena4mj Yes it was a horrible time of Michael's life! He was a black man being FALSELY ACCUSED of sexually molesting a 13 year-old white boy! In an interview with Ebony Magazine in 1994, Michael described this period of his life as "Armageddon of the brains", meaning the end of the world. He was deeply stressed and not sleeping right. He settled the molestation case out of court for 20 million and then just 3 MONTHS LATER married LMP as a PR stunt!
@BDSaysHi , I feel sorry for Michael i know he was Falsely accused i know that, but i think LMP fall in love with him, you know Michael was a gorgeous suit guy. Enough reason for Lisa to chase him all over the world. Besides in the rabbi schmuley tapes & book Michael stated THAT THE REASON they separated was he WANTED CHILDREN & SHE DID NOT.
@lorena4mj That is not "love" .. that is trying to make sure you milk the last little bit possible out of the name "Michael Jackson" because you know there is no chance for your recording career any other way. Elvis Presley's name wasn't getting her any attention, most people didn't even KNOW she was a singer, people only started realising this about her once she married Michael. Michael never signed her to his label and he never promoted her music, but just the mere mention of his name is
@lorena4mj adequate to get her more air-time on sensationalist programs like Oprah and give her the platform to sit there and talk about her life and her career in front of the whole world as if she is some kind of star .. which she is not! She is over 40 and never had a hit song or a hit album a day in her life. She is a nobody. She is boring, the only reason anybody bothers talking to her is because of that brief, ridiculous marriage to Michael Jackson and she knows it and uses it!
@lorena4mj Answer: As sure as I am that 1619 to 1865 was the saddest time for black people in America. Michael had the instincts of a survivor and the determination of a conqueror. He did not set limits; he was willing to try anything that he thought might work.
No. Everyone does not have a valid opinion about people and things they know little to nothing about. Your opinion on this topic is worthless and as ludicrous as offering an opinion about the feelings of black American slaves.
@lorena4mj You asked, "HOW SURE are you this was the saddest time in Michael's life.?" (Using two question marks does not make a sentence more of a question. It simply borders on illiteracy.) That is the kind of obnoxious question an ignorant white female would ask.
@BDSaysHi Now, if we take a look at the well-known (or known about) women of color, there are at least two, and possibly three or more: Diana Ross, Blanket's mother, and possibly a mysterious older son's mother. The first two of these women cannot be dismissed. And because both of them are black, the likelihood is virtually nil that either one would have any interest in sharing their intimate lives with the general public.
@BDSaysHi Given all that we do know about Michael's relationships with well-known white females, that conclusion is hardly worth debating. (After all, there are only two women in that category who might even be considered (his PR-wife, Presley, and his Paid-for-services-rendered-wife, Rowe) and they can both be easily dismiss.)
@BDSaysHi Since I would prefer to address each of your complaints, allow you to respond, then finish by tying up any loose ends that might cost me additional time in the future, let's begin with your first comment and work our way up.
So, regarding your first comment, perhaps I should begin by correcting you. If you would care to take another look at my statement, you would find that what I actually did say was ". . . Michael wasn't even sexually attracted to white females."
@BDSaysHi In looking over your comments I have observed several things: First, you have made a few clearly inaccurate statements. Second, a number of assumptions having nothing to do with reality appear to be woven into your thread of comments. Third, you appear to be confused about what racism is and what racism is not. And, fourth, it looks as if you are suffering from a 'I like the game better when we make the rules' complex.
@MeganBrW JUST STOP CALLING WHITE WOMEN "WHORES" AS IF IT IS SOMETHING MICHAEL WOULD HAVE CONDONED, AS I FEEL PRETTY CERTAIN HE WOULD NOT HAVE!
And even if Debbie Rowe was a paid-for wife/mother (which she was), nothing changes the fact that Michael, for whatever reason, chose to have Caucasian children. It was his choice and he made it .. obviously and clearly .. so ease up with your racism against whites! If you want to be racist that's fine, but don't bring Michael Jackson into it!!
@BDSaysHi Before I continue, here is another point I should correct you on: Michael's children are his biological offspring. Therefore, none of his children are Caucasian--not from a historical definition perspective, an anthropological perspective, a medical perspective, a U.S. Census Bureau perspective, or a cultural perspective. And as Michael pointed out, black people come in all colors.
You're a black woman are you? Then how come you come in here under different handles, making insulting comments about blacks and saying Michael was "manipulated" by black leaders, such as Reverend Al Sharpton, whom, the Jackson family had give the eulogy at Michael's memorial? This doesn't sound very sympathetic to the "black community" to me ..
Sounds to me like you are trying to paint as negative a picture as you can of the black community, and you have created this alter-ego, this "black woman" you pretend to be, who really hates whites and tries to argue that Michael thought lowly of white females, in order to alienate and offend Michael's white female fans, because you know white females make
@BDSaysHi Apparently, you deeply resent being excluded from the community that Michael was and always will be a part of, and you deeply resent being told that you cannot really understand or appreciate Michael, his feelings, or the depth of his thinking because you are outside of the black community peering in through a window that he opened so that outsiders could observe and enjoy some of the black culture.
@MeganBrW Actually, Michael nor anybody else ever told me or any of Michael's other Caucasian fans that we were cut off from the black community or from Michael. These dialogues never happened. And in my personal life, no black person has ever tried to shut me out of their life. I think I have told you many times before that I grew up around people of all cultures. My dad was a touring musician for many years, and through him I met a lot of different people, including black people who are still
@MeganBrW friends of my family who would laugh at your comments and be repulsed by you and the racist trash you are trying to push. I personally grew up in Australia, so why would I "resent" the black community of the USA? That is just NUTTY! That community has never impinged on my life in any way or caused any problems for me. I wasn't even in the same country. And "idiosyncratic" does not equate to "strange" .. you need a dictionary! When I said idiosyncratic I did not mean "strange!"
@MeganBrW/NancyFox/WeddingBliss/Lorraine/Griswald/CeliaPlanet/Heidi/MarshYoYo/7Qoui/LetLoveRockOn/Sherayx/UsaEarthling/StopTrippinOnMike ... up the bulk of his fan-base! You are a "double-agent", not trying to help Michael's Jackson's legacy but trying to destroy it. Either that, or this is just some devious social experiment you have dreamed up to try and taunt his fans and gauge the response. Like I say, if you really are in journalism then god knows what you are really up to!
@BDSaysHi Of course, the people who Michael was really trying to draw to him so that they would hear and understand his message were children--because they are the future of the world.
Despite what many white females wanted to believe, Michael wasn't looking for a white girlfriend or wife. He knew EXACTLY WHO he wanted from the time he was a child. By the time he was a young man, that was widely known within the black community, and that never changed.
@BDSaysHi Michael was singing to the pure of heart. He wasn't singing to or for females beyond the age of puberty. In reality, he wasn't interested in them, and he did not even like most of them. He did not like being kissed by fans--particularly on the lips, which they often wanted to do. But to some extent, he did discouraged that by wearing lipstick.
@BDSaysHi When Sharpton talked about Michael's cultural significance and how he brought young people from all over the world together, he mentioned the lyrics from one of Michael's songs. But Michael did not accomplish all that he did with just one song or just one speech. By offering black music as a medium for communication, Michael continually engaged people so that they would hear the message of the black community.
@BDSaysHi You DID NOT KNOW that through his music Michael was sharing the HEART and SOUL of the black American community with the rest of the world--everything that HE and EVERY other black child in America HAS ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT from the cradle and almost invariably carries with them to the grave?
@BDSaysHi Let me make sure we are understanding you correctly. You thought everything Michael sang about and talked about was original and peculiar to Michael? You DID NOT KNOW that EVERYTHING--every sentiment, feeling, value, belief, and point-of-view Michael sang about and talked about is endemic to the black American culture?
@BDSaysHi YOU become belligerent, claim that ALL white females are being labeled and chastised, and you further assert that every white Mary, Sue, and Cathy who Michael ever befriended and showed one ounce of good-manners toward was obviously one of his love-interests. As if that were not ludicrous enough, YOU then proceed to call the black woman a racist--which is most interesting indeed.
@BDSaysHi Meanwhile, others continue to pick at and push on those windows, as if a black person has no right to privacy. Then, when a black woman directly addresses the guilty ones among you who are caught in the act and she labels them according to their bad behavior,
@BDSaysHi Michael clearly indicated that some windows cannot be opened for you to peer in. Many spaces are private. Michael said his personal life was one of them. Nevertheless, some of you--oblivious to or angered by that--posted photos, from your 15-year-old fan club albums, on multiple billboards that you labeled with nostalgic myths, and then invite others to join in on the myth making.
@BDSaysHi A lot of people, in and outside of the media, liked to claim that Michael Jackson was strange--and possibly an alien.
As for the black community, needless to say you don't know the first thing about the black community. The very fact that you referred to it as 'the so called black community' by enclosing its name within quotation marks ("black community") clearly indicates that YOU RESENT ITS VERY EXISTENCE.
@BDSaysHi In general, the safest thing for you to do is refrain from drawing conclusions about how Michael felt about various topics. My guess is he would have found your statement about his children just as absurd as the claim by some people that Cleopatra was white.
@MeganBrW LOLOL go away lady! You are a whack-job and a JERK who comes in here arguing for both sides of the argument and who knows virtually nothing about the idiosyncrasies of Michael Jackson, you only know certain information about the "black community" at large .. and even THAT you use to peddle your own disgusting, fucked up, racist agenda! How the hell would YOU know who Michael Jackson was attracted to? You're not even a fan of the guy .. you're a fucking journalist .. the natural enemy
@MeganBrW of Michael and artistic people in general. You speak in this haughty, instructive, didactic tone like you are some kind of expert on Michael where in fact you know nothing about the guy. I'm sure you have inside "facts" .. maybe you have even interviewed him at one point and possibly even LMP, but you are not sympathetic toward him, when it suits you you come in here and argue that LMP was the love of his life, and then in the next breath, argue the complete opposite!
@BDSaysHi You are a WHITE WOMAN in AUSTRALIA and you have the FLAMING AUDACITY to SAY THAT and to PRESUME to know anything or understand anything about the thinking of a black American man or a black American woman and what she knows about her own people? Well, you CERTAINLY are demonstrating exactly what a "whack-job and a JERK" YOU MOST DEFINITELY ARE!
@MeganBrW wore lipstick! You are trying to paint him as some horror story character that hated his own fans, but the evidence is all against you. All one needs to do is observe Michael crusing around with Martin Bashir in 2003 and willingly and enthusiastically inviting his fans into the limo to kiss and hug him .. all for fun .. but clearly demonstrative that Michael was not repulsed by white women or disgusted by his own fans. I know one thing for sure though, he'd be disgusted with you,
@BDSaysHi I will address your comment about the presumed status and privileges of white female fans in due time. However, I will respond to these two now.
Did you say, "The idiosyncrasies of Michael Jackson . . ." and that I "only know certain information about the "black community" at large"? REALLY?
@MeganBrW Listen you mad BITCH, absolutely NO WAY is anything you are saying correct! Number one - I grew up in the music industry, my father was an Australian musician yes, but he was surrounded by musicians and artists of all different strains and backgrounds including African American. I am well aware of the musical genesis of Michael's music and his music is some of the first I ever heard. Stop talking to me with such ludicrous generalisations that do not apply to me!
@BDSaysHi Whether you realize it or not, or would care to admit it or not--apparently what I have said does apply to you. Sociologist in the U.S. have been analyzing and writing about this for quite some time. That is the subject of my next series of comments.
But for now, that will have to wait. It is Monday morning here, and I do have to earn a living.
@MeganBrW Just go away bitch! Go away to the news room and come up with some more rumours to start about Michael Jackson. He was a pedophile, he was an Elvis-lover, and now, he "hated white women" ... see if you can think of any more garbage and let's here it some other time.
@MeganBrW Okay I got it .. now it all makes sense .. you are a sociologist! Remember a few messages ago I said I suspected you were doing some weird social experiment with Michael's fans? Well now it all falls into place .. you are actually experimenting, coming in under different handles and arguing both for and against particular things to see how it affects the fans! LOL I knew it! Well you've got your number very wrong with me .. very wrong .. and you can't analyze people like that over the
@MeganBrW You're a freaking JOURNALIST, some bitch that works in a news room, waxing lyrical about Michael's music? What the hell would you know about Michael's music or about music in general? Holy crap you didn't even know what the word "funky" meant! You said it meant "young, swift and up to date" .. it doesn't! Funk is a musical style and a musical style that Michael Jackson is synonymous with! But you obviously didn't know that, your comments to me proved it clearly enough!
@MeganBrW The more you say on these videos, the more obvious it becomes you know less than nothing about Michael Jackson. You have stated in the past that you are not even a Michael Jackson fan so where do YOU get the audacity to come on here talking about a guy you are not even a fan of and paying short shrift to his fans! You have NO RIGHT TO and you also have NO RIGHT to call his white female fans SLUTS AND WHORES. The only WHORE around here is you - you are a little media whore!
@MeganBrW Michael may have opened a window on the black community musically, but he was not "black subject, 101". Michael did not live like the average black guy .. he did not even live like the average white guy! Aside from a bit of hard-living when he was younger, the overwhelming portion of Michael's life was spent living in privilege and opulence. Michael lived like royalty .. he did not know what it was like to go to the supermarket or wait in line at a bank. This way of life was almost
@MeganBrW completely unknown to him, He had no reason to be bitter or resentful or exclusive to the white populace that had made him rich and famous. He simply did not HAVE those hang-ups. Furthermore, he was not turned off by white facial features or mannerisms (re: your disgusting comment about white people's "pointy noses") the biological mother of his first two children is white .. she is a blonde haired, blue-eyed, WHITE WOMAN!
@MeganBrW Again your lack of knowledge about Michael's music is astounding! So you think he wrote Dirty Diana, BAD, Liberian Girl, Speed Demon etc for little kids do you? LOL what a joke! Michael was as much an adult musician as he was a soft-hearted, lover of children. he was a multi-faceted artist as much as he was a multi-faceted person, but you would not know this as you are not even a fan. One of Michael's favourite stories is how when he performed for Charles and Diana, out of respect
@MeganBrW to the Princess of Wales, he took Dirty Diana out of the set, but later that evening Diana came up and whispered in his ear that she wished he had kept it in and hinted that the song turned her on. Michael told this story himself in an interview .. it was NOT a "children's" song! YOU ARE INSANE! About what the "black community" has 'always known" about Michael .. I seem to recall you trying to assert that the "black community" knew why Tatiana Thumzken was "fired" .. you tried
@MeganBrW to make out that it was because his white female "crossover audience" would not be alienated, even though Tatiana herself told the story a number of times through tears that Michael fired her, on the spot, because she kissed him unexpectedly. You argued with me that I was "jealous" of her because she is black (LOL what bullshit!) and that she is a great dancer (actually, she is trained ballerina .. so what!!). Well Michael did not even HIRE HER to DANCE and that seems to be something
@MeganBrW else you missed .. like I say you really know nothing about the guy .. and what's more, like I pointed out to you before, if the Michael was so worried about alienating his "crossover audience" then why did he hire her in the first place? Why did he pose in all those lovey dovey PR shots with her .. pictures even SHE has said were nothing but PR .. and let the rumour mill suggest they were an ITEM? Can you see how you talk UTTER SHIT and you constantly contradict yourself? Can
@MeganBrW you see how you are just a stupid, out-of-the-loop journalist who knows next-to-nothing about Michael Jackson, nothing about music, certainly NOTHING about dancing and only speak in generalisations about the "black community" and apply 1970's black ghetto ethics to a man who lived like a prince? Hey .. I am NOT AGAINST the ghetto .. some of my all-time favourite dance and musical styles have their genesis in the American ghetto's, but Michael did not live this cliched, black life or
@MeganBrW any kind of cliched life. I wouldn't take ANYTHING you say about what the "black community" knows or does not know seriously, cos you fuck it up constantly! Like I say, even Tatiana herself contradicted you!
@BDSaysHi To black people, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING idiosyncratic about Michael's way of thinking. That is what Al Sharpton meant when he told Michael's children, "There weren't nothing strange about your daddy. It was strange what your daddy had to deal with . . ." Sharpton's words at the Staples Center were received with a standing ovation.
@MeganBrW Or maybe that is what you are trying to do? Alienate the white female fans who happen to read through these messages so you can make sure there is nothing left for him? He's a "pedophile" .. he's an "Elvis-lover and wanted to be a part of the Presley family" .. and now .. according to you, he was sexually repulsed and disgusted by white females! What next? You people are in the business of creating and spreading rumours, so god knows what you will come up with!
@lorena4mj He married her in a quickie wedding that took 15 minutes, not even in the USA (down in the Dominican Republic). When they got back up to the USA they did NOT LIVE TOGETHER!! Some people have claimed that they "switched between houses" but this is also UNTRUE! Read the interview from 2004 (below) with Diane Sawyer. She asked LMP "is it true they EVER LIVED TOGETHER?" LMP giggled and said "Put it this way, if he was in town, he'd be at my house!" ..
@lorena4mj If he was in town he'd be at my house? THAT IS NOT LIVING TOGETHER! If you don't believe me go watch the interview for yourself on youtube "LMP - Diane Sawyer '04". It is a BIG LIE that these two people lived as a "normal, married couple" .. they did not! There is absolutely no documented evidence whatsoever that they ever "lived together" and LMP herself stated "if he was in town" .. while giggling! This marriage was nothing but a sham!!!
@lorena4mj White folks always have their big mouths open--because somebody told you that you are entitled to. Most of the time, you haven't got anything thoughtful, intelligent, or worthwhile to say--particularly when it comes to individuals who belong to other groups. You folks need to keep those rattling garbage cans closed for a change, particularly you Chatty-Cathies.
@MeganBrW Michael wasn't attracted to white women? Gee sweety-cakes, that's a bit of an assumption to make, isn't it? I wonder what makes you so sure of this - did he tell you this himself did he? I can smell racism in the air and I'm pretty sure it's coming from you. In actual fact, Michael waxed lyrical a number of times about his attraction to a variety of different white women, including Diana Princess of Wales and Brooke Shields. He said Diana was "definitely (his) type".
@MeganBrW He described her as "classy and feminine". Michael kept the company of a lot of beautiful, glamorous white women, including Elizabeth Taylor and Sophia Loren. But I suppose you know better than he who he was "attracted" to? This may come as a shock to you, but not every black person is "Black subject, 101". Some black people are actually individuals, and Michael was certainly that. You can't just assume to know everything about the guy based on the colour of his skin.
This song has nothing to do with Michael and LMP's relationship. This song was a decade and some old when Michael and LMP were married. So, I don't see the sinifigance here. Try using another song for them.
This song was made way before he even thought about marrying LMP. In fact, she was nowhere in the picture of his life then, she herself had a whole other life with someone else when Michael did this song. So, I don't see why this song is put with MJ and LMP videos. I even read somewhere where someone thought that Michael sang this song referring to him and LMP. Go figure.
Quincy Jones said Michael had a hard time when making this song, because he would always break down and cry while singing it. I think that probably it reminded him of his relationship with Diana Ross, who he loved always until the day he died. I think in Michael's mind, heart and soul, should have been and would have been his one and only wife for life. Hence, his Will, the Moonwalker book and various statements made interviews he did mainly in the 80's, and the early 90's.
@trevanismith Thank God they didn't. Whew--that was a close one! With a child involved, LMP would have had a semi-believable excuse for dogging Michael. Of course, LMP dogged him all over the planet anyway before and after the marriage--but at least everyone can clearly see what a painfully nagging tramp she was. That first wife still wants to talk about "the way we were" (in her distorted mind, of course) one more time. Michael (Rest your soul), that PR marriage was your TRULY BIG MISTAKE!
her story changes all of sudden she finally cares about him after his death,he deserved some one who truly cared about him. even though there marrige didnt work out atleast she could of been a friend, he even cried out for help from her even crying and she basicaly turned his back on him. she said that he called her one day and told her that he felt that some one was going to try to kill him, i cant believe after that phone call she didnt have the heart to be there for him or help him.
@mjjchica LMP didn't leave him. That was LMP's PR spin to save face. Michael walked out on her. He hated that PR marriage and LMP said she didn't know where he was most of the time. He forced the divorce on LMP in 1995, and by then Debbie Rowe was already pregnant with the child she miscarried. The divorce was finalized on January 18, 1996, and after that Michael didn't want to have anything to do with LMP. But, just like now, she dogged him for years, then she got mad and attacked him publicly.
LMP is crude, harsh, brash, unsophisticated, tasteless, and just plain rough. LMP was expelled from H.S. in 11th grade, which means she only has a 10th grade education. She said she did nearly every kind of street drug there was. According to her, she started having sex at 15, and she was pregnant before she got married. LMP was a teenage tramp and that didn't get any better with time. You think Michael didn't know that?
@Lorraine403X WHOA!!!! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! why MJ married her in the first place.?? He even said in the DS interview that he asked his friend & Attorney JOHN BRANCA THAT HE WANTED TO MEET LISA.
@lorena4mj Why don't you read Lisa Marie Presley's interview with Playboy in 2003? She says how Michael basically ignored her for most of the "marriage" (which only lasted 20 months!). She also stated that Michael was "not sexually seductive" toward her! This is something also echoed in an interview she did with Howard Stern in 2003. She was not speaking "out of spite", because in that same Playboy interview she also said she "never ever" saw Michael do anything suspicious with children.
@lorena4mj She was not trying to hurt Michael, she was only telling the truth. How could he be 'sexually seductive" when they did not live in the same house? Like I say, LMP did not say to Sawyer (in 2004) that Michael would make a special effort to come see her or "switch between houses", what she said was "if he was in town". So "if he was in town" he'd drop in and have sex with her? I don't think so! They were not a "normal" couple, they were a PR COUPLE ONLY!!
@Lorraine403X Yes, I agree with you, but I think she was in Love with him, otherwise she wouldn't chase him all over the glove, besides she cried so much at the funeral & she was the last to live. I also think she feels bad inside because she know she trash him so much during the Oprah show, Dianne Sawyer interview & also during the Larry King show. I also know O. & D.S. are her friends.
@lorena4mj How do you know she was the last to leave? That is only what she says. Personally, I think it is very sick that someone that is not a man's wife and was nothing to do with him since about 1997, is sniffing around his final resting place like a vampire. He married her out of his own country in a 15 minute wedding ceremony filmed on a hand-held camera. There was no priest or church and no family or friends invited. He used the "wedding video" as nothing but proof they were actually
@lorena4mj married for the media (for example, on the Diane Sawyer show in 1995) .. that is the express reason this marriage was even filmed! It was just so people would stop calling him a pedophile! LMP confirmed HERSELF to Diane Sawyer in 2004 that they NEVER LIVED TOGETHER! She said "If he was in town, he'd be at my house" .. that is not a "marriage", that is a fucking joke! What is she doing around his tomb? She shouldn't fucking be there, her name was not even mentioned ONCE in his will!
@lorena4mj She had no children by him and they were "divorced" since 1996. Like I say they never even lived under the same roof! At Michael's 2005 trial, LMP was interviewed by Larry King and all she could do was giggle and call the trial a "blessing", meanwhile, Michael's fans were camped outside the courthouse, crying and praying for him. Then the guy dies and she shows up again, with fake tears and coal pencil smeared under her eyes, trying to play the "grieving widow" like a sick pantomime.
Michael didn't really want to have anything to do with something like that, but, by 1994, Michael was scared and desperate. He said he thought his world was coming to an end, and he couldn't eat or sleep.
Michael married LMP in 1994 because an extortionist was trying to destroy his public image. LMP "relentlessly pursued" Michael and he thought marrying someone the media and America liked would stop the media from attacking him and change the public's perception of him. It didn't.
In 1995, Michael walked out on LMP because they were COMPLETELY incompatible and he wanted a family. Aside from belonging to families in the music industry, they had absolutely nothing in common, and they did not get along with each other at all. Michael kept as much distance between them as he possibly could.
LMP said much of the time she didn't see him and she didn't even know where Michael was. In the tapes Michael said she always complained that he treated her like the furniture.
REALITY: In late 2010, LMP went to Oprah (who, like Sawyer, just happens to be on of her media buddies who, for years, she helped to attack Michael) for help because what Michael said in those private tapes he made with Rabbi Shmuley that surfaced in early 2010 are a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT to LMP and she is trying to repair the PR damage they have done to her and the Presley brand name.
@lorena4mj You are not communicating with Barack. Some of us are not willing to tolerate that level of arrogance or deceit. If Michael had been completely open and perfectly honest about his lack of feelings for LMP, he would have been attacked even more ferociously by the media and the rest of you white folks.
@MeganBrW You act like some kind of queen who speaks for "all black people", and use a belittling and superior tone when speaking about whites. Well not only this aggressive and obnoxious, but it is also racist to stereotype "all black people" and "all white people" the way you do, especially "white females". Your comments about "white females" are absolutely disgusting, calling them "whores" and such, you make me sick! And to think you are sprouting such racism in Michael Jackson's name is a
@MeganBrW disgrace because Michael wasn't like that at all! He said he was "colour-blind" and that he did not hire colour, he hired competence! He also said that one day he "fully expected all colours to live as one family on earth". You are doing a massive injustice sprouting these racist notions and pretending to speak for him! YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR HIM!! Michael worked with white musicians including two amazing white female guitarists and surrounded himself with beautiful white women!
@mjjchica LMP has been drinking and smoking since she was a young teenager (since she was 15 years old, she said), and as a young woman she was a drinker. For some of us, she has never been an attractive woman (merely average), but now she appears haggard, so she is probably a heavy drinker and smoker, in addition to having on-going emotional issues. That is the apparent state of LMP that we saw a few months ago.
@mjjchica Michael Jackson was NEVER in love with LMP, and she knows that. Michael married LMP because he was trying to change the media's and the public's perception of him. He was humiliated by feeling as if he had to marry a woman like LMP to save his career. He hated that PR marriage and forced the divorce on LMP shortly after Debbie Rowe offered to have children for him. LMP, pretty? Well, some people's standards are lower than others. As we know, Michael had very high standards.
@DMANN1972 Most people know the interview LMP did with Oprah in 2010 was LMP's PR attempt to discredit what Michael said in the tapes he made 10 years ago with Rabbi Shmuley. That interview was ridiculous!
@DMANN1972 "Like she needed to release her feelings,love ,and emotions to heal her heart.Theres so much to this." LOL It looks like you have spent too much of your time reading tabloids. You are certainly not in touch with the real world. That interview was filled with PR garbage that had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with LOVE or TRUTH or FACTS. LMP portrayed Michael Jackson as a drug addict--"he was a high as a kite" who loved her and didn't know what he was doing or saying.
@DMANN1972 "It seemed more theraputic to me." Uh, then you must be an idiot! LMP is not. LMP is a hardcore woman who likes Porn and didn't like being dumped by Michael. She knows exactly what a celebrity interview is for. If she had been interested in therapy, she would have gone to her therapist (or a close friend or relative)--not to the media.
(from LMP's 2003 PLAYBOY interview)
PLAYBOY: If you didn't have an album to promote, would you be talking to us now? PRESLEY: No.
@DMANN1972 When a celebrity goes to Oprah (or to Diane Sawyer or any other media person) she is NOT going to her for therapy. She goes to Oprah for publicity and to promote a positive public relations image of herself. Celebrities have to work, just like everyone else. When she sits down with Oprah her job is to promote herself, not to be honest and say what she really thinks or feels. What does promoting yourself at someone else's expense have to do with love? Nothing!
@DMANN1972 (from LMP's Rolling Stone interview) "Presley knows the world has never thought about her in quite the same way since her second marriage, her 1994 union with Michael Jackson. She is infuriated by this 'All I did get out of it was a shit storm', she says. 'And I got out of it. Now people go, 'You seem somewhat sane, you seem pretty together -- what the hell was that all about?' It put a stigma on me. A 'What the hell was she thinking?' stigma'." LMP is still trying to change that!
@DMANN1972 If you haven't read the comments on the next several pages, you should. They are very good, and they are accurate. Those people have been following this LONG DRAMA and haven't been misled by PR spin. Michael walked away from that PR marriage because it infuriated the media and because he didn't get along with LMP and hated the marriage. LMP has always been angry because the media believed she knew it was a PR marriage. She says she didn't know that and that she married him for love.
@DMANN1972 PR marriages to change the public's perception of a celebrity are not new, so the media and most people were not fooled. Michael's reason for marrying in 94 was so obvious that the media assumed LMP had to be a part of that PR marriage ploy. Later, she claimed that--at first--she really thought he loved her. Obviously, he didn't.
PRESLEY: Not long after Diane Sawyer. I started to wake up and ask a lot of questions. I don't want to go into detail, but it went downhill pretty quick.
@DMANN1972 After Michael walked out on LMP to force the divorce so that he could accept Rowe's offer to have children for him, LMP was furious. When the media reported that he was in a New York hospital suffering from exhaustion, LMP found out where he was and she went to his hospital room to have a showdown she said. She said he told her that she was causing trouble and he asked her to leave. She said she filed for the divorce soon after that day. Michael married pregnant DR within months.
@DMANN1972 Michael's marriage to DR was a friendly business arrangement. DR knew he didn't love her and they never lived together. Once he remarried and was having children, he thought that was the end of his relationship with LMP. It wasn't! In the tapes, Michael said LMP was always hanging out with his mother, writing him letters offering to have babies or do anything, and following him all over the world. When that didn't work, LMP got mad and went to the media. FASTFORWARD TO THE PRESENT!
@DMANN1972 In the tapes he and Rabbi Shmuley made, Michael said in 1993 and 1994 (while Evan Chandler was extorting money from him) he was terrified and that it was like "Armageddon on the brain." LMP said she wanted to save him and he was a frightened, desperate man who wasn't thinking clearly. He made 2 VERY BAD MISTAKES: Marrying LMP for PR reasons and Settling out of court with Chandler. Until the tapes surfaced in 2010, the media did not know LMP had been dogging Michael after the divorce.
@DMANN1972 LMP is suffering from a VERY SEVERE case of unrequited love. Years ago, LMP said she felt crazy for two years after the divorce. Basically, what that most recent Interview did was show the world that 15 years after Michael walked out on her to get the divorce LMP is even more obsessed and emotionally disturbed than she was in the years immediately after the divorce. Her emotional state has obviously deteriorated significantly.
@DMANN1972 You are an adult with the sophistication of a child. You are the kind of person public relations people love because you easily accept what is presented on the surface--even when it is inconsistent with all of the facts and makes absolutely no sense.
@angie11555 ah thank you for calling me an idiot and having the sophistication of a child,you are truely a kind and lovely lady ;) Maybe I dont have all the info because I have a life and not obsessed about these two like you obviously are.Get a life.How many comments have you written to me?haha.Maybe you need therapy!!Get over it.Maybe you should be on Oprah,im sure she would be like bitch shut the fuck up!!
@DMANN1972 You are quite right. I am indeed a very no nonsense person. Come now, let's not pretend that you just dropped down from the sky. Had Michael Jackson been a white man and this exact same scenario had take place (which would in itself have been highly improbable), you would not have been deceived for one second, nor would you have made those comments. Now, ask yourself--why is that? It appears that you and LMP share the same lexicon.
@angie11555 bitch=no nonsense person?hahaYou have no class and it shows in your comments to me.Get a LIFE!!Your all over youtube commenting on these two.Your obviously the kind of person who thinks there view is the right view.Obsessed you definately are.Im done talking with you cause it could go on forever.You obviously live for this.MJ married LMP,they loved each other,they fucked so get over it!
@DMANN1972 Actually, you are almost certainly right about one thing. There is no reason to believe Michael was not one of the many men in that last category.
Forever? Well, that will never do! I am no more interested in talking to you than Michael was in talking to LMP. Bonne nuit!
@DMANN1972 Class? Now, how would you know what that is? I am rather dedicated, and I do know a great deal more than you do about Michael Jackson. As we all know, after Michael walked out on that PR marriage that he hated and forced the divorce on LMP he soon married Debbie Rowe, also for reasons other than love. But why would Michael's lack of interest in LMP anger you? No need to answer that. You are obviously quite disturbed by all of this.
@DMANN1972 there are many others crazy haters of lmp like angie11555 who have many accounts to go on mj and lmp videos, not only this one, everyday to say mj was never interested in lmp and attack lmp very much they have no time in their life they are very pathetics
@mrsceciliafarigu Hi, @hidcon23. I see you are back and still trying to pretend you don't have serious problems. Anyone who can't accept reality obviously does have serious problems. Pretending is not a solution.
@angie11555 hi crazy hater of lmp and hi katierish , hi celiaplanet , hi meganbrw ,hi weddingbliss, hi heidi333, did i forget any other your sock account ? i think u have many mental problems more than me seeing that u are always fighting with people who respects the love between michael and lmp 24 hours on 24 u need a mental home
@rachouxlovelife Don't try to take advantage of people and you will stay out of trouble with people. Keep your silly comments out of my email account. Period.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@rachouxlovelife I have not gone back to find your earlier comment or mine. You are quite right. I am not alone in this world. My guess is you must have said something that ignores the fact that that brief marriage ended many years ago, and Michael clearly wanted to put it behind him. We all have rights, and ignoring someone else's rights is unacceptable. When a marriage is over, it really is over. Find some other way to have fun and explore your fantasies.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
EVERYONE shut the FUCK up and watch the video! Jesus Christ! Holy fuck ppl!
YouTube would be a better place If there were no comments lol
sillysilvergirl1357 3 months ago
@sillysilvergirl1357 If you feel that way about the comment section, why have you added to the very thing you say you are objecting to. Second, you do have the option of not reading the comments below the video. You have deliberately chosen to read them, right? Third, is it really necessary for you to use foul language?
MeganBrW 3 months ago
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coolgirl15663 4 months ago
LIsa Maire Presley deffinitely is the most beautiful gift to Michael. but why did they live apart?
kay8x 4 months ago 2
@kay8x nooo no viven separados porque ya se murió desactualisado aver....
dianitalook1 4 months ago
@kay8x Michael married LMP for public relations reasons. The media has always been fairly sympathetic towards the daughter of Elvis. LMP had told Michael that she could save him from being attacked by the media. When that turned out to not be the case, Michael was disappointed. LMP also did not want to fulfill her promise--which proved to be the real deal breaker. Michael was never in love with LMP, so he wanted to get out of the marriage. Debbie made that easier for him.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@kay8x Michael's marriage to LMP was a complete disaster. It would appear that you really don't know anything about LMP's background, aside from the fact that Elvis Presley was her father.
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BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW "black man" are based on outmoded stereotypes that were a pain in the ass and a burden to him. Not that he wasn't genuinely proud to be black - he certainly was - but there was more to him than just the colour of his skin, just the same way there is to everybody, whether black or white. Michael would condier you a foul imposter and a peddler of false ideologies .. he is not ANY of the things you are saying he is.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Whoever MeganBrW is does not represent black women at all. Your comments opened my eyes a bit more. I myself have been "racially attacked" by those very "usernames" That you have mentioned. I must say that i don't appreciate that person attacking white women to make it appear as though black women are bitter. That is wrong on so many levels. I wouldn't be surprised if all those names were tied into one. I can't stomach that racist shit ....it is completely unacceptable.
daisylicious101 5 months ago
@daisylicious101 God bless you! And THANK YOU!
Yes .. she is crazy!
If she really is a black woman, then she is obviously a very bitter one! Please believe me when I say that I grew up around people of all cultures .. this is 100% the truth .. I NEVER would have banked on the kind of CRAP I have been reading from this person, at first I thought she was intelligent but then bit by bit I got the "racist" alert, and then the "loony" alert!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@daisylicious101 Quite frankly, I am convinced she has been coming in under multiple user-names, arguing on BOTH SIDES of the MJ/LMP thing! Why do this? What's in it for her? She openly admits she is not a Michael Jackson fan! It's just fucking crazy and I am genuinely starting to HATE her (him .. it .. whatever!). Michael was NOT RACIST .. you can be proud of your heritage and your culture without being racist .. Michael exemplifies this. RACISM IS HATE and that is NOT what he was about!
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@daisylicious101 Anyway, here are the handles that I KNOW are all her:
Megan/Heidi/CeliaPlanet/Lorraine/Griswald/WeddingBliss/MarshaYoYo/NancyFox .. they are ALL HER!
And these are the ones I suspect!
LetLoveRockOn/Sherayx/UsaEarthling/StopTrippinOnMike/7Quoi
Not fair to do this to Michael - spreading another myth to add to the other ones! He was "gay", he was a "pedophile", he was an "Elvis-lover" and now, according to this person, he hated white women! It's not fair!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@daisylicious101 Of those, very few would actually leave a comment of any kind. A few of those individuals will adamantly insist that Michael Jackson was the person THEY wanted him to be, and that Michael Jackson felt the way THEY wanted him to feel. This is the group of females I have referred to. I have never referred to all white females, as @BDSaysHi tries to pretend.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 When have you seen any white celebrity, alive or dead, treated the way Michael Jackson was being treated by the vast majority of white female fans who commented on this particular group of videos? Do you think that is merely coincidental?
Look at the numbers. Most people would not even come to these videos, and certainly not men. These "love-story videos" tend to attract a certain group of females.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 As long as black Americans, and Americans in general, remain timid about pointing out the sources of the problem, this will not stop. Taylor was not a racist either, and she was not afraid to say what she knew was true--even if that made people like @BDSaysHi uncomfortable. This is not about showing what good manners one has. It is about making sure that everyone is treated equally and fairly.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 Michael Jackson in order to support him and his life's work. Although I do, even if I did not care for his music, I would have supported him as a black, hardworking entertainer doing the best that he could in a highly competitive field.
As his good friend Elizabeth Taylor said, "America treated Michael Jackson like dirt." This is an example of what she was referring to. Michael said, "This has got to stop."
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 Despite what @BDSaysHi would have you believe, I did not "attack" all white women. I referred to women who exhibit a particular behavior. Most women simply do not fit into that group.
I did not bother to read most of @BDSaysHi tirade. I'm sure I've seen it before, and I cannot allow her to monopolize endless amounts of my time. Among other things, she seem to be troubled by the fact that some of us do not have to be "fans" of
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 Actually, I am quite certain that I do represent a large segment of black women, other women of color, and many white women in the United States. (A number of women have thanked me for speaking up--usually they have been black women who understand exactly what is going on here.)
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 I am quite curious about a particular part of your comment. Why might it appear that black women are bitter? What would black women be bitter about? That struck me as an odd thing for you to say--so, I'm thinking that you statement must have come from somewhere.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
@daisylicious101 Have you ever asked yourself "Why would any decent, intelligent human being--who cares about and respects the rights of others, in the same way that they care about and respect their own rights--have posted any of these videos AFTER January 1996"? @JRAR0405 posted this particular video on Jan 5, 2007. Would you want someone to do something like this to you? That is analogous to someone inviting you into their home and then setting out photos of you and your ex-spouse.
MeganBrW 3 months ago
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BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW in the video, Michael played the role od Darryl, the boy who is killed, and the story culminates with Michael telling these cliched black thugs "You're doing wrong, you're not "bad" ... who's "bad" brother? I'm bad!" Michael is shouting at screaming at them that HE (Darryl) is the "bad" (cool, funky) one and that they are just thugs .. he says to them .. "They're gonna lock you up before too long!" He was frustrated and annoyed by ghetto cliches. he liked the finer things in life
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Because you are not a Michael Jackson fan and know nothing about this man, you do not know that in actual fact, Michael was turned off by cliched blacks. That was what BAD was all about. Michael had read a story about a young black boy from Harlem that had tried to improve his chances in life by going to a prestigious school upstate. As Michael tells it, when the boy gets back to Harlem, his old friends were so jealous of that they killed him.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrw Michael based the video for BAD on Westside Story and Beat It also took from this musical. One of Michael's all-time favourite directors was Vincent Minelli and Liza Minelli and Judy Garland were two big influences on him. Michael said one of the reasons he wanted to do The Wiz is because he loved the Wizard of Oz so much. Even when he made his speech against Sony in London in 2002, he took the time out to pay homage to Gene kelly and Fred Astaire.
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@MeganBrW Of course Michael opened a window on black music, there can be no doubt about that, but that is a beautiful thing, not some kind of weapon that he used to exclude certain people. If he wanted to exclude whites then why was he so obsessed as you paint him with the "crossover audience" .. he wasn't about excluding, he was about including, he said "I honestly believe that one day all races will live on planet earth as one big loving family".
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi LOL I came to watch a beautiful song by MJ and got caught up in reading all the comments made by a few. Good debate of comments but I think you won out! Enjoyed reading your comments to MeganBrW. Words well put! (wink)
texjoy56 1 month ago
@texjoy56 Thank you very kindly. This "Megan" character is a real internet menace, I have recently learned that she (well .. he!) even hacked my PC, so do be aware of this person and his many handles on youtube - he even managed to get my personal email out of me before I realised what was going on. I think I put a list of his many ID's a few messages back. As for Michael - you are right - it is a beautiful song and Michael was a beautiful person.
God Bless :-)
BDSaysHi 1 month ago
@MeganBrW fucking with him like this. Clearly, the only thing you are interested in is alienating as broad a cross-section of Michael's fans as you possibly can, but the problem for you is that the shit you say is so transparently contrived and rehearsed. Like I say, in reality you don't know anything about Michael and that is patently obvious to even a recent fan, let alone lifelong fans such as myself who have followed his career since the 1970's.
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BDSaysHi 5 months ago
I did not even bother to read through your most recent tirade. I am not going to allow you to waste my time with every ridiculous idea into your head.
Michael was attacked by an extortionist, the media, and a lot of other hostile, irrational, primarily American, white folks who used the exact same strategy.
By the way, (a) everyone can quickly determine who you are, (b) no black person would assume you are black, and (c) people are able to easily deceive you by simply pretending to be black.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
Can't fake it? I beg to differ!!!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
LMP, DIANE SAWYER, 1995: You can't fake that 24 hours a day, sleeping with someone, waking up with someone, we're with each other all the time, he's running around the house, I'm running around the house .. we have a normal house!
DIANE SAWYER, 2004: Is it true you two EVER REALLY LIVED TOGETHER? I NEVER BELIEVED THAT!
LMP: WELL ... PUT IT THIS WAY, IF HE WAS IN TOWN, HE'D BE AT MY HOUSE!
SAWYER: YES, BUT HOW OFTEN WAS THAT?
LMP: WELL, IT GOT LESS AND LESS TOWARD THE END!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@rachouxlovelife You've got SOME NERVE! What makes you think you can tell black people how another black person feels or what motivated his actions? Michael was as much in love with LMP as he was with Debbie Rowe! Legally, Michael and LMP were married from May 18,1994, until January 18, 1996. Michael was actually legally married to DR longer. He never lived with LMP or DR because he DID NOT WANT TO LIVE WITH THEM! Once LMP did not keep her end of the deal, he forced the divorce on her. REALITY!
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@rachouxlovelife I am willing to cut you a little slack since you are only 19 years old and up in Canada, but don't assume that you can get away with saying absolutely anything about a black guy. You may want to believe that Michael and a white woman would make a beautiful couple--white female sluts seem to love that storyline--but Michael wasn't even sexually attracted to white females. LMP got VERY ANGRY when she realized he had no real interest in her. WHY WOULD HE HAVE ANY INTEREST IN HER?
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@rachouxlovelife No. Think about it--why would Michael have been in love with and unattractive, uneducated, low-brow white whore? He wasn't. Whether you like it or not, the fact of the matter is LMP was chasing after him, so he used her. That PR-marriage lasted only a matter of months. LMP said that by the time they did the Diane Sawyer interview, the marriage was already BAD. She said she rarely knew where he was. They did NOT live together. Friends? They hadn't spoken to each other in years!
MeganBrW 5 months ago
Sawyer (2004): Is it true you two EVER REALLY LIVED TOGETHER? I never believed that!
Presley: Well .. put this way, if he was in town he'd be at my house!
Sawyer: Yes, but how often was THAT?
Presley: Well it got less and less toward the end!
You see .. she did not say "we switched between houses", she said "if he was in town" he'd come over to HER HOUSE .. IF!!
THEY DID NOT LIVE TOGETHER .. EVER!!!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@rachouxlovelife Grow up, you moron! This was one of the scariest and saddest times in Michael's life. Two people who marry because he is under attack and she offers to help him do not make a beautiful couple. That PR marriage was extremely short and extremely miserable. The didn't get along at all and they argued constantly whenever she could find him. LMP said that she had no idea where he was most of the time.
MeganBrW 6 months ago
@MeganBrW HOW SURE are you this was the saddest time in Michael's life.?? LMP HAS NOT TELL THE TRUTH YET. DON' T get mad about the whole thing, every one is entitle to have an opinion.
lorena4mj 5 months ago
@lorena4mj Yes it was a horrible time of Michael's life! He was a black man being FALSELY ACCUSED of sexually molesting a 13 year-old white boy! In an interview with Ebony Magazine in 1994, Michael described this period of his life as "Armageddon of the brains", meaning the end of the world. He was deeply stressed and not sleeping right. He settled the molestation case out of court for 20 million and then just 3 MONTHS LATER married LMP as a PR stunt!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi , I feel sorry for Michael i know he was Falsely accused i know that, but i think LMP fall in love with him, you know Michael was a gorgeous suit guy. Enough reason for Lisa to chase him all over the world. Besides in the rabbi schmuley tapes & book Michael stated THAT THE REASON they separated was he WANTED CHILDREN & SHE DID NOT.
lorena4mj 5 months ago
@lorena4mj That is not "love" .. that is trying to make sure you milk the last little bit possible out of the name "Michael Jackson" because you know there is no chance for your recording career any other way. Elvis Presley's name wasn't getting her any attention, most people didn't even KNOW she was a singer, people only started realising this about her once she married Michael. Michael never signed her to his label and he never promoted her music, but just the mere mention of his name is
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj adequate to get her more air-time on sensationalist programs like Oprah and give her the platform to sit there and talk about her life and her career in front of the whole world as if she is some kind of star .. which she is not! She is over 40 and never had a hit song or a hit album a day in her life. She is a nobody. She is boring, the only reason anybody bothers talking to her is because of that brief, ridiculous marriage to Michael Jackson and she knows it and uses it!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj Answer: As sure as I am that 1619 to 1865 was the saddest time for black people in America. Michael had the instincts of a survivor and the determination of a conqueror. He did not set limits; he was willing to try anything that he thought might work.
No. Everyone does not have a valid opinion about people and things they know little to nothing about. Your opinion on this topic is worthless and as ludicrous as offering an opinion about the feelings of black American slaves.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@lorena4mj You asked, "HOW SURE are you this was the saddest time in Michael's life.?" (Using two question marks does not make a sentence more of a question. It simply borders on illiteracy.) That is the kind of obnoxious question an ignorant white female would ask.
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@BDSaysHi Now, if we take a look at the well-known (or known about) women of color, there are at least two, and possibly three or more: Diana Ross, Blanket's mother, and possibly a mysterious older son's mother. The first two of these women cannot be dismissed. And because both of them are black, the likelihood is virtually nil that either one would have any interest in sharing their intimate lives with the general public.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Given all that we do know about Michael's relationships with well-known white females, that conclusion is hardly worth debating. (After all, there are only two women in that category who might even be considered (his PR-wife, Presley, and his Paid-for-services-rendered-wife, Rowe) and they can both be easily dismiss.)
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Since I would prefer to address each of your complaints, allow you to respond, then finish by tying up any loose ends that might cost me additional time in the future, let's begin with your first comment and work our way up.
So, regarding your first comment, perhaps I should begin by correcting you. If you would care to take another look at my statement, you would find that what I actually did say was ". . . Michael wasn't even sexually attracted to white females."
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi In looking over your comments I have observed several things: First, you have made a few clearly inaccurate statements. Second, a number of assumptions having nothing to do with reality appear to be woven into your thread of comments. Third, you appear to be confused about what racism is and what racism is not. And, fourth, it looks as if you are suffering from a 'I like the game better when we make the rules' complex.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW JUST STOP CALLING WHITE WOMEN "WHORES" AS IF IT IS SOMETHING MICHAEL WOULD HAVE CONDONED, AS I FEEL PRETTY CERTAIN HE WOULD NOT HAVE!
And even if Debbie Rowe was a paid-for wife/mother (which she was), nothing changes the fact that Michael, for whatever reason, chose to have Caucasian children. It was his choice and he made it .. obviously and clearly .. so ease up with your racism against whites! If you want to be racist that's fine, but don't bring Michael Jackson into it!!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Perhaps you should take the time to look up the definition of "Caucasian" and "racism." You appear to be quite confused.
As for what Michael actually did believed and what his attitudes most likely would have been, I will get to that later.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Before I continue, here is another point I should correct you on: Michael's children are his biological offspring. Therefore, none of his children are Caucasian--not from a historical definition perspective, an anthropological perspective, a medical perspective, a U.S. Census Bureau perspective, or a cultural perspective. And as Michael pointed out, black people come in all colors.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW/NancyFox/WeddingBliss/Lorraine/Griswald/CeliaPlanet/Heidi/MarshYoYo/7Qoui/LetLoveRockOn/Sherayx/UsaEarthling/StopTrippinOnMike
You're a black woman are you? Then how come you come in here under different handles, making insulting comments about blacks and saying Michael was "manipulated" by black leaders, such as Reverend Al Sharpton, whom, the Jackson family had give the eulogy at Michael's memorial? This doesn't sound very sympathetic to the "black community" to me ..
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW/NancyFox/WeddingBliss/Lorraine/Griswald/CeliaPlanet/Heidi/MarshYoYo/7Qoui/LetLoveRockOn/Sherayx/UsaEarthling/StopTrippinOnMike
Sounds to me like you are trying to paint as negative a picture as you can of the black community, and you have created this alter-ego, this "black woman" you pretend to be, who really hates whites and tries to argue that Michael thought lowly of white females, in order to alienate and offend Michael's white female fans, because you know white females make
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Apparently, you deeply resent being excluded from the community that Michael was and always will be a part of, and you deeply resent being told that you cannot really understand or appreciate Michael, his feelings, or the depth of his thinking because you are outside of the black community peering in through a window that he opened so that outsiders could observe and enjoy some of the black culture.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Actually, Michael nor anybody else ever told me or any of Michael's other Caucasian fans that we were cut off from the black community or from Michael. These dialogues never happened. And in my personal life, no black person has ever tried to shut me out of their life. I think I have told you many times before that I grew up around people of all cultures. My dad was a touring musician for many years, and through him I met a lot of different people, including black people who are still
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW friends of my family who would laugh at your comments and be repulsed by you and the racist trash you are trying to push. I personally grew up in Australia, so why would I "resent" the black community of the USA? That is just NUTTY! That community has never impinged on my life in any way or caused any problems for me. I wasn't even in the same country. And "idiosyncratic" does not equate to "strange" .. you need a dictionary! When I said idiosyncratic I did not mean "strange!"
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW/NancyFox/WeddingBliss/Lorraine/Griswald/CeliaPlanet/Heidi/MarshYoYo/7Qoui/LetLoveRockOn/Sherayx/UsaEarthling/StopTrippinOnMike ... up the bulk of his fan-base! You are a "double-agent", not trying to help Michael's Jackson's legacy but trying to destroy it. Either that, or this is just some devious social experiment you have dreamed up to try and taunt his fans and gauge the response. Like I say, if you really are in journalism then god knows what you are really up to!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Of course, the people who Michael was really trying to draw to him so that they would hear and understand his message were children--because they are the future of the world.
Despite what many white females wanted to believe, Michael wasn't looking for a white girlfriend or wife. He knew EXACTLY WHO he wanted from the time he was a child. By the time he was a young man, that was widely known within the black community, and that never changed.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Michael was singing to the pure of heart. He wasn't singing to or for females beyond the age of puberty. In reality, he wasn't interested in them, and he did not even like most of them. He did not like being kissed by fans--particularly on the lips, which they often wanted to do. But to some extent, he did discouraged that by wearing lipstick.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi When Sharpton talked about Michael's cultural significance and how he brought young people from all over the world together, he mentioned the lyrics from one of Michael's songs. But Michael did not accomplish all that he did with just one song or just one speech. By offering black music as a medium for communication, Michael continually engaged people so that they would hear the message of the black community.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi You DID NOT KNOW that through his music Michael was sharing the HEART and SOUL of the black American community with the rest of the world--everything that HE and EVERY other black child in America HAS ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT from the cradle and almost invariably carries with them to the grave?
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Let me make sure we are understanding you correctly. You thought everything Michael sang about and talked about was original and peculiar to Michael? You DID NOT KNOW that EVERYTHING--every sentiment, feeling, value, belief, and point-of-view Michael sang about and talked about is endemic to the black American culture?
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi YOU become belligerent, claim that ALL white females are being labeled and chastised, and you further assert that every white Mary, Sue, and Cathy who Michael ever befriended and showed one ounce of good-manners toward was obviously one of his love-interests. As if that were not ludicrous enough, YOU then proceed to call the black woman a racist--which is most interesting indeed.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Meanwhile, others continue to pick at and push on those windows, as if a black person has no right to privacy. Then, when a black woman directly addresses the guilty ones among you who are caught in the act and she labels them according to their bad behavior,
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Michael clearly indicated that some windows cannot be opened for you to peer in. Many spaces are private. Michael said his personal life was one of them. Nevertheless, some of you--oblivious to or angered by that--posted photos, from your 15-year-old fan club albums, on multiple billboards that you labeled with nostalgic myths, and then invite others to join in on the myth making.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi A lot of people, in and outside of the media, liked to claim that Michael Jackson was strange--and possibly an alien.
As for the black community, needless to say you don't know the first thing about the black community. The very fact that you referred to it as 'the so called black community' by enclosing its name within quotation marks ("black community") clearly indicates that YOU RESENT ITS VERY EXISTENCE.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi In general, the safest thing for you to do is refrain from drawing conclusions about how Michael felt about various topics. My guess is he would have found your statement about his children just as absurd as the claim by some people that Cleopatra was white.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW LOLOL go away lady! You are a whack-job and a JERK who comes in here arguing for both sides of the argument and who knows virtually nothing about the idiosyncrasies of Michael Jackson, you only know certain information about the "black community" at large .. and even THAT you use to peddle your own disgusting, fucked up, racist agenda! How the hell would YOU know who Michael Jackson was attracted to? You're not even a fan of the guy .. you're a fucking journalist .. the natural enemy
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW of Michael and artistic people in general. You speak in this haughty, instructive, didactic tone like you are some kind of expert on Michael where in fact you know nothing about the guy. I'm sure you have inside "facts" .. maybe you have even interviewed him at one point and possibly even LMP, but you are not sympathetic toward him, when it suits you you come in here and argue that LMP was the love of his life, and then in the next breath, argue the complete opposite!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi You are a WHITE WOMAN in AUSTRALIA and you have the FLAMING AUDACITY to SAY THAT and to PRESUME to know anything or understand anything about the thinking of a black American man or a black American woman and what she knows about her own people? Well, you CERTAINLY are demonstrating exactly what a "whack-job and a JERK" YOU MOST DEFINITELY ARE!
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW wore lipstick! You are trying to paint him as some horror story character that hated his own fans, but the evidence is all against you. All one needs to do is observe Michael crusing around with Martin Bashir in 2003 and willingly and enthusiastically inviting his fans into the limo to kiss and hug him .. all for fun .. but clearly demonstrative that Michael was not repulsed by white women or disgusted by his own fans. I know one thing for sure though, he'd be disgusted with you,
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi I will address your comment about the presumed status and privileges of white female fans in due time. However, I will respond to these two now.
Did you say, "The idiosyncrasies of Michael Jackson . . ." and that I "only know certain information about the "black community" at large"? REALLY?
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Listen you mad BITCH, absolutely NO WAY is anything you are saying correct! Number one - I grew up in the music industry, my father was an Australian musician yes, but he was surrounded by musicians and artists of all different strains and backgrounds including African American. I am well aware of the musical genesis of Michael's music and his music is some of the first I ever heard. Stop talking to me with such ludicrous generalisations that do not apply to me!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@BDSaysHi Whether you realize it or not, or would care to admit it or not--apparently what I have said does apply to you. Sociologist in the U.S. have been analyzing and writing about this for quite some time. That is the subject of my next series of comments.
But for now, that will have to wait. It is Monday morning here, and I do have to earn a living.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Just go away bitch! Go away to the news room and come up with some more rumours to start about Michael Jackson. He was a pedophile, he was an Elvis-lover, and now, he "hated white women" ... see if you can think of any more garbage and let's here it some other time.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Okay I got it .. now it all makes sense .. you are a sociologist! Remember a few messages ago I said I suspected you were doing some weird social experiment with Michael's fans? Well now it all falls into place .. you are actually experimenting, coming in under different handles and arguing both for and against particular things to see how it affects the fans! LOL I knew it! Well you've got your number very wrong with me .. very wrong .. and you can't analyze people like that over the
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@MeganBrW fucking internet you goose .. you're a fucking freak!
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@MeganBrW You're a freaking JOURNALIST, some bitch that works in a news room, waxing lyrical about Michael's music? What the hell would you know about Michael's music or about music in general? Holy crap you didn't even know what the word "funky" meant! You said it meant "young, swift and up to date" .. it doesn't! Funk is a musical style and a musical style that Michael Jackson is synonymous with! But you obviously didn't know that, your comments to me proved it clearly enough!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW The more you say on these videos, the more obvious it becomes you know less than nothing about Michael Jackson. You have stated in the past that you are not even a Michael Jackson fan so where do YOU get the audacity to come on here talking about a guy you are not even a fan of and paying short shrift to his fans! You have NO RIGHT TO and you also have NO RIGHT to call his white female fans SLUTS AND WHORES. The only WHORE around here is you - you are a little media whore!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Michael may have opened a window on the black community musically, but he was not "black subject, 101". Michael did not live like the average black guy .. he did not even live like the average white guy! Aside from a bit of hard-living when he was younger, the overwhelming portion of Michael's life was spent living in privilege and opulence. Michael lived like royalty .. he did not know what it was like to go to the supermarket or wait in line at a bank. This way of life was almost
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@MeganBrW completely unknown to him, He had no reason to be bitter or resentful or exclusive to the white populace that had made him rich and famous. He simply did not HAVE those hang-ups. Furthermore, he was not turned off by white facial features or mannerisms (re: your disgusting comment about white people's "pointy noses") the biological mother of his first two children is white .. she is a blonde haired, blue-eyed, WHITE WOMAN!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Again your lack of knowledge about Michael's music is astounding! So you think he wrote Dirty Diana, BAD, Liberian Girl, Speed Demon etc for little kids do you? LOL what a joke! Michael was as much an adult musician as he was a soft-hearted, lover of children. he was a multi-faceted artist as much as he was a multi-faceted person, but you would not know this as you are not even a fan. One of Michael's favourite stories is how when he performed for Charles and Diana, out of respect
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW to the Princess of Wales, he took Dirty Diana out of the set, but later that evening Diana came up and whispered in his ear that she wished he had kept it in and hinted that the song turned her on. Michael told this story himself in an interview .. it was NOT a "children's" song! YOU ARE INSANE! About what the "black community" has 'always known" about Michael .. I seem to recall you trying to assert that the "black community" knew why Tatiana Thumzken was "fired" .. you tried
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW to make out that it was because his white female "crossover audience" would not be alienated, even though Tatiana herself told the story a number of times through tears that Michael fired her, on the spot, because she kissed him unexpectedly. You argued with me that I was "jealous" of her because she is black (LOL what bullshit!) and that she is a great dancer (actually, she is trained ballerina .. so what!!). Well Michael did not even HIRE HER to DANCE and that seems to be something
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW else you missed .. like I say you really know nothing about the guy .. and what's more, like I pointed out to you before, if the Michael was so worried about alienating his "crossover audience" then why did he hire her in the first place? Why did he pose in all those lovey dovey PR shots with her .. pictures even SHE has said were nothing but PR .. and let the rumour mill suggest they were an ITEM? Can you see how you talk UTTER SHIT and you constantly contradict yourself? Can
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW you see how you are just a stupid, out-of-the-loop journalist who knows next-to-nothing about Michael Jackson, nothing about music, certainly NOTHING about dancing and only speak in generalisations about the "black community" and apply 1970's black ghetto ethics to a man who lived like a prince? Hey .. I am NOT AGAINST the ghetto .. some of my all-time favourite dance and musical styles have their genesis in the American ghetto's, but Michael did not live this cliched, black life or
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW any kind of cliched life. I wouldn't take ANYTHING you say about what the "black community" knows or does not know seriously, cos you fuck it up constantly! Like I say, even Tatiana herself contradicted you!
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@MeganBrW I meant "hear" not here .. have to be careful or you will call me a "slut"!
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@BDSaysHi To black people, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING idiosyncratic about Michael's way of thinking. That is what Al Sharpton meant when he told Michael's children, "There weren't nothing strange about your daddy. It was strange what your daddy had to deal with . . ." Sharpton's words at the Staples Center were received with a standing ovation.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Or maybe that is what you are trying to do? Alienate the white female fans who happen to read through these messages so you can make sure there is nothing left for him? He's a "pedophile" .. he's an "Elvis-lover and wanted to be a part of the Presley family" .. and now .. according to you, he was sexually repulsed and disgusted by white females! What next? You people are in the business of creating and spreading rumours, so god knows what you will come up with!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj He married her in a quickie wedding that took 15 minutes, not even in the USA (down in the Dominican Republic). When they got back up to the USA they did NOT LIVE TOGETHER!! Some people have claimed that they "switched between houses" but this is also UNTRUE! Read the interview from 2004 (below) with Diane Sawyer. She asked LMP "is it true they EVER LIVED TOGETHER?" LMP giggled and said "Put it this way, if he was in town, he'd be at my house!" ..
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj If he was in town he'd be at my house? THAT IS NOT LIVING TOGETHER! If you don't believe me go watch the interview for yourself on youtube "LMP - Diane Sawyer '04". It is a BIG LIE that these two people lived as a "normal, married couple" .. they did not! There is absolutely no documented evidence whatsoever that they ever "lived together" and LMP herself stated "if he was in town" .. while giggling! This marriage was nothing but a sham!!!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj White folks always have their big mouths open--because somebody told you that you are entitled to. Most of the time, you haven't got anything thoughtful, intelligent, or worthwhile to say--particularly when it comes to individuals who belong to other groups. You folks need to keep those rattling garbage cans closed for a change, particularly you Chatty-Cathies.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW Michael wasn't attracted to white women? Gee sweety-cakes, that's a bit of an assumption to make, isn't it? I wonder what makes you so sure of this - did he tell you this himself did he? I can smell racism in the air and I'm pretty sure it's coming from you. In actual fact, Michael waxed lyrical a number of times about his attraction to a variety of different white women, including Diana Princess of Wales and Brooke Shields. He said Diana was "definitely (his) type".
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW He described her as "classy and feminine". Michael kept the company of a lot of beautiful, glamorous white women, including Elizabeth Taylor and Sophia Loren. But I suppose you know better than he who he was "attracted" to? This may come as a shock to you, but not every black person is "Black subject, 101". Some black people are actually individuals, and Michael was certainly that. You can't just assume to know everything about the guy based on the colour of his skin.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
Anyone notice lisa's hand at 1:12, who just turned her into captin hook :\
BigMicaelJacksonFan 7 months ago
@BigMicaelJacksonFan Lol! That's her sunglasses ^-^
DatrianaML 6 months ago
Michael was not LMP's "Sugar Daddy".
rocknroll773 7 months ago 3
This song has nothing to do with Michael and LMP's relationship. This song was a decade and some old when Michael and LMP were married. So, I don't see the sinifigance here. Try using another song for them.
rocknroll773 7 months ago 3
This song was made way before he even thought about marrying LMP. In fact, she was nowhere in the picture of his life then, she herself had a whole other life with someone else when Michael did this song. So, I don't see why this song is put with MJ and LMP videos. I even read somewhere where someone thought that Michael sang this song referring to him and LMP. Go figure.
rocknroll773 7 months ago 4
Quincy Jones said Michael had a hard time when making this song, because he would always break down and cry while singing it. I think that probably it reminded him of his relationship with Diana Ross, who he loved always until the day he died. I think in Michael's mind, heart and soul, should have been and would have been his one and only wife for life. Hence, his Will, the Moonwalker book and various statements made interviews he did mainly in the 80's, and the early 90's.
rocknroll773 7 months ago 3
if they had had a child...that child would have been set for life.
trevanismith 8 months ago
@trevanismith Thank God they didn't. Whew--that was a close one! With a child involved, LMP would have had a semi-believable excuse for dogging Michael. Of course, LMP dogged him all over the planet anyway before and after the marriage--but at least everyone can clearly see what a painfully nagging tramp she was. That first wife still wants to talk about "the way we were" (in her distorted mind, of course) one more time. Michael (Rest your soul), that PR marriage was your TRULY BIG MISTAKE!
angie11555 7 months ago 3
THE PICTURE FROM 0:40 - 0:44 IS NOT LISA MARIE PRELSEY. THAT'S MICHAEL JACKSON'S MAKE-UP ARTIST KAREN FAYE!
Malado365 9 months ago
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her story changes all of sudden she finally cares about him after his death,he deserved some one who truly cared about him. even though there marrige didnt work out atleast she could of been a friend, he even cried out for help from her even crying and she basicaly turned his back on him. she said that he called her one day and told her that he felt that some one was going to try to kill him, i cant believe after that phone call she didnt have the heart to be there for him or help him.
luzr1989 9 months ago
@mjjchica LMP didn't leave him. That was LMP's PR spin to save face. Michael walked out on her. He hated that PR marriage and LMP said she didn't know where he was most of the time. He forced the divorce on LMP in 1995, and by then Debbie Rowe was already pregnant with the child she miscarried. The divorce was finalized on January 18, 1996, and after that Michael didn't want to have anything to do with LMP. But, just like now, she dogged him for years, then she got mad and attacked him publicly.
36NancyFox 9 months ago 7
@LiarsBurnInHell LOL ,LOL ,LOL !
mrsceciliafarigu 9 months ago
LMP is crude, harsh, brash, unsophisticated, tasteless, and just plain rough. LMP was expelled from H.S. in 11th grade, which means she only has a 10th grade education. She said she did nearly every kind of street drug there was. According to her, she started having sex at 15, and she was pregnant before she got married. LMP was a teenage tramp and that didn't get any better with time. You think Michael didn't know that?
Lorraine403X 10 months ago 51
@Lorraine403X WHOA!!!! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! why MJ married her in the first place.?? He even said in the DS interview that he asked his friend & Attorney JOHN BRANCA THAT HE WANTED TO MEET LISA.
lorena4mj 5 months ago
@lorena4mj Why don't you read Lisa Marie Presley's interview with Playboy in 2003? She says how Michael basically ignored her for most of the "marriage" (which only lasted 20 months!). She also stated that Michael was "not sexually seductive" toward her! This is something also echoed in an interview she did with Howard Stern in 2003. She was not speaking "out of spite", because in that same Playboy interview she also said she "never ever" saw Michael do anything suspicious with children.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj She was not trying to hurt Michael, she was only telling the truth. How could he be 'sexually seductive" when they did not live in the same house? Like I say, LMP did not say to Sawyer (in 2004) that Michael would make a special effort to come see her or "switch between houses", what she said was "if he was in town". So "if he was in town" he'd drop in and have sex with her? I don't think so! They were not a "normal" couple, they were a PR COUPLE ONLY!!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@Lorraine403X Yes, I agree with you, but I think she was in Love with him, otherwise she wouldn't chase him all over the glove, besides she cried so much at the funeral & she was the last to live. I also think she feels bad inside because she know she trash him so much during the Oprah show, Dianne Sawyer interview & also during the Larry King show. I also know O. & D.S. are her friends.
lorena4mj 5 months ago
@lorena4mj How do you know she was the last to leave? That is only what she says. Personally, I think it is very sick that someone that is not a man's wife and was nothing to do with him since about 1997, is sniffing around his final resting place like a vampire. He married her out of his own country in a 15 minute wedding ceremony filmed on a hand-held camera. There was no priest or church and no family or friends invited. He used the "wedding video" as nothing but proof they were actually
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj married for the media (for example, on the Diane Sawyer show in 1995) .. that is the express reason this marriage was even filmed! It was just so people would stop calling him a pedophile! LMP confirmed HERSELF to Diane Sawyer in 2004 that they NEVER LIVED TOGETHER! She said "If he was in town, he'd be at my house" .. that is not a "marriage", that is a fucking joke! What is she doing around his tomb? She shouldn't fucking be there, her name was not even mentioned ONCE in his will!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@lorena4mj She had no children by him and they were "divorced" since 1996. Like I say they never even lived under the same roof! At Michael's 2005 trial, LMP was interviewed by Larry King and all she could do was giggle and call the trial a "blessing", meanwhile, Michael's fans were camped outside the courthouse, crying and praying for him. Then the guy dies and she shows up again, with fake tears and coal pencil smeared under her eyes, trying to play the "grieving widow" like a sick pantomime.
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
Michael didn't really want to have anything to do with something like that, but, by 1994, Michael was scared and desperate. He said he thought his world was coming to an end, and he couldn't eat or sleep.
Lorraine403X 10 months ago
Michael married LMP in 1994 because an extortionist was trying to destroy his public image. LMP "relentlessly pursued" Michael and he thought marrying someone the media and America liked would stop the media from attacking him and change the public's perception of him. It didn't.
Lorraine403X 10 months ago
In 1995, Michael walked out on LMP because they were COMPLETELY incompatible and he wanted a family. Aside from belonging to families in the music industry, they had absolutely nothing in common, and they did not get along with each other at all. Michael kept as much distance between them as he possibly could.
Lorraine403X 10 months ago
LMP said much of the time she didn't see him and she didn't even know where Michael was. In the tapes Michael said she always complained that he treated her like the furniture.
Let's be honest and keep it real.
Lorraine403X 10 months ago
REALITY: In late 2010, LMP went to Oprah (who, like Sawyer, just happens to be on of her media buddies who, for years, she helped to attack Michael) for help because what Michael said in those private tapes he made with Rabbi Shmuley that surfaced in early 2010 are a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT to LMP and she is trying to repair the PR damage they have done to her and the Presley brand name.
angie11555 10 months ago 45
@angie11555 NO SHE WENT BEFORE THAT WATCH THE INTERVIEW IS ON YOU TUBE, HER MOTHER WAS THERE. SHE IS RIDICOLOUS.
lorena4mj 5 months ago
@lorena4mj You are not communicating with Barack. Some of us are not willing to tolerate that level of arrogance or deceit. If Michael had been completely open and perfectly honest about his lack of feelings for LMP, he would have been attacked even more ferociously by the media and the rest of you white folks.
MeganBrW 5 months ago
@MeganBrW You act like some kind of queen who speaks for "all black people", and use a belittling and superior tone when speaking about whites. Well not only this aggressive and obnoxious, but it is also racist to stereotype "all black people" and "all white people" the way you do, especially "white females". Your comments about "white females" are absolutely disgusting, calling them "whores" and such, you make me sick! And to think you are sprouting such racism in Michael Jackson's name is a
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@MeganBrW disgrace because Michael wasn't like that at all! He said he was "colour-blind" and that he did not hire colour, he hired competence! He also said that one day he "fully expected all colours to live as one family on earth". You are doing a massive injustice sprouting these racist notions and pretending to speak for him! YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR HIM!! Michael worked with white musicians including two amazing white female guitarists and surrounded himself with beautiful white women!
BDSaysHi 5 months ago
@mjjchica LMP has been drinking and smoking since she was a young teenager (since she was 15 years old, she said), and as a young woman she was a drinker. For some of us, she has never been an attractive woman (merely average), but now she appears haggard, so she is probably a heavy drinker and smoker, in addition to having on-going emotional issues. That is the apparent state of LMP that we saw a few months ago.
angie11555 10 months ago
@mjjchica Michael Jackson was NEVER in love with LMP, and she knows that. Michael married LMP because he was trying to change the media's and the public's perception of him. He was humiliated by feeling as if he had to marry a woman like LMP to save his career. He hated that PR marriage and forced the divorce on LMP shortly after Debbie Rowe offered to have children for him. LMP, pretty? Well, some people's standards are lower than others. As we know, Michael had very high standards.
angie11555 10 months ago
@mjjchica watch her last interview with Oprah and she explains this very well.
DMANN1972 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 Most people know the interview LMP did with Oprah in 2010 was LMP's PR attempt to discredit what Michael said in the tapes he made 10 years ago with Rabbi Shmuley. That interview was ridiculous!
angie11555 10 months ago
@angie11555 It seemed more theraputic to me.Like she needed to release her feelings,love ,and emotions to heal her heart.Theres so much to this.
DMANN1972 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 "Like she needed to release her feelings,love ,and emotions to heal her heart.Theres so much to this." LOL It looks like you have spent too much of your time reading tabloids. You are certainly not in touch with the real world. That interview was filled with PR garbage that had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with LOVE or TRUTH or FACTS. LMP portrayed Michael Jackson as a drug addict--"he was a high as a kite" who loved her and didn't know what he was doing or saying.
angie11555 10 months ago
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angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 "It seemed more theraputic to me." Uh, then you must be an idiot! LMP is not. LMP is a hardcore woman who likes Porn and didn't like being dumped by Michael. She knows exactly what a celebrity interview is for. If she had been interested in therapy, she would have gone to her therapist (or a close friend or relative)--not to the media.
(from LMP's 2003 PLAYBOY interview)
PLAYBOY: If you didn't have an album to promote, would you be talking to us now? PRESLEY: No.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 When a celebrity goes to Oprah (or to Diane Sawyer or any other media person) she is NOT going to her for therapy. She goes to Oprah for publicity and to promote a positive public relations image of herself. Celebrities have to work, just like everyone else. When she sits down with Oprah her job is to promote herself, not to be honest and say what she really thinks or feels. What does promoting yourself at someone else's expense have to do with love? Nothing!
angie11555 10 months ago
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angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 (from LMP's Rolling Stone interview) "Presley knows the world has never thought about her in quite the same way since her second marriage, her 1994 union with Michael Jackson. She is infuriated by this 'All I did get out of it was a shit storm', she says. 'And I got out of it. Now people go, 'You seem somewhat sane, you seem pretty together -- what the hell was that all about?' It put a stigma on me. A 'What the hell was she thinking?' stigma'." LMP is still trying to change that!
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 If you haven't read the comments on the next several pages, you should. They are very good, and they are accurate. Those people have been following this LONG DRAMA and haven't been misled by PR spin. Michael walked away from that PR marriage because it infuriated the media and because he didn't get along with LMP and hated the marriage. LMP has always been angry because the media believed she knew it was a PR marriage. She says she didn't know that and that she married him for love.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 PR marriages to change the public's perception of a celebrity are not new, so the media and most people were not fooled. Michael's reason for marrying in 94 was so obvious that the media assumed LMP had to be a part of that PR marriage ploy. Later, she claimed that--at first--she really thought he loved her. Obviously, he didn't.
PRESLEY: Not long after Diane Sawyer. I started to wake up and ask a lot of questions. I don't want to go into detail, but it went downhill pretty quick.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 After Michael walked out on LMP to force the divorce so that he could accept Rowe's offer to have children for him, LMP was furious. When the media reported that he was in a New York hospital suffering from exhaustion, LMP found out where he was and she went to his hospital room to have a showdown she said. She said he told her that she was causing trouble and he asked her to leave. She said she filed for the divorce soon after that day. Michael married pregnant DR within months.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 Michael's marriage to DR was a friendly business arrangement. DR knew he didn't love her and they never lived together. Once he remarried and was having children, he thought that was the end of his relationship with LMP. It wasn't! In the tapes, Michael said LMP was always hanging out with his mother, writing him letters offering to have babies or do anything, and following him all over the world. When that didn't work, LMP got mad and went to the media. FASTFORWARD TO THE PRESENT!
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 In the tapes he and Rabbi Shmuley made, Michael said in 1993 and 1994 (while Evan Chandler was extorting money from him) he was terrified and that it was like "Armageddon on the brain." LMP said she wanted to save him and he was a frightened, desperate man who wasn't thinking clearly. He made 2 VERY BAD MISTAKES: Marrying LMP for PR reasons and Settling out of court with Chandler. Until the tapes surfaced in 2010, the media did not know LMP had been dogging Michael after the divorce.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 LMP is suffering from a VERY SEVERE case of unrequited love. Years ago, LMP said she felt crazy for two years after the divorce. Basically, what that most recent Interview did was show the world that 15 years after Michael walked out on her to get the divorce LMP is even more obsessed and emotionally disturbed than she was in the years immediately after the divorce. Her emotional state has obviously deteriorated significantly.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 You are an adult with the sophistication of a child. You are the kind of person public relations people love because you easily accept what is presented on the surface--even when it is inconsistent with all of the facts and makes absolutely no sense.
angie11555 10 months ago
@angie11555 ah thank you for calling me an idiot and having the sophistication of a child,you are truely a kind and lovely lady ;) Maybe I dont have all the info because I have a life and not obsessed about these two like you obviously are.Get a life.How many comments have you written to me?haha.Maybe you need therapy!!Get over it.Maybe you should be on Oprah,im sure she would be like bitch shut the fuck up!!
DMANN1972 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 You are quite right. I am indeed a very no nonsense person. Come now, let's not pretend that you just dropped down from the sky. Had Michael Jackson been a white man and this exact same scenario had take place (which would in itself have been highly improbable), you would not have been deceived for one second, nor would you have made those comments. Now, ask yourself--why is that? It appears that you and LMP share the same lexicon.
angie11555 10 months ago
@angie11555 bitch=no nonsense person?hahaYou have no class and it shows in your comments to me.Get a LIFE!!Your all over youtube commenting on these two.Your obviously the kind of person who thinks there view is the right view.Obsessed you definately are.Im done talking with you cause it could go on forever.You obviously live for this.MJ married LMP,they loved each other,they fucked so get over it!
DMANN1972 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 Actually, you are almost certainly right about one thing. There is no reason to believe Michael was not one of the many men in that last category.
Forever? Well, that will never do! I am no more interested in talking to you than Michael was in talking to LMP. Bonne nuit!
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 Class? Now, how would you know what that is? I am rather dedicated, and I do know a great deal more than you do about Michael Jackson. As we all know, after Michael walked out on that PR marriage that he hated and forced the divorce on LMP he soon married Debbie Rowe, also for reasons other than love. But why would Michael's lack of interest in LMP anger you? No need to answer that. You are obviously quite disturbed by all of this.
angie11555 10 months ago
@DMANN1972 there are many others crazy haters of lmp like angie11555 who have many accounts to go on mj and lmp videos, not only this one, everyday to say mj was never interested in lmp and attack lmp very much they have no time in their life they are very pathetics
mrsceciliafarigu 10 months ago
@mrsceciliafarigu Hi, @hidcon23. I see you are back and still trying to pretend you don't have serious problems. Anyone who can't accept reality obviously does have serious problems. Pretending is not a solution.
angie11555 10 months ago
@angie11555 hi crazy hater of lmp and hi katierish , hi celiaplanet , hi meganbrw ,hi weddingbliss, hi heidi333, did i forget any other your sock account ? i think u have many mental problems more than me seeing that u are always fighting with people who respects the love between michael and lmp 24 hours on 24 u need a mental home
mrsceciliafarigu 10 months ago
@angie11555 oh sorry i wanted to say heidi 733 another your sock and pathetic account on here
mrsceciliafarigu 10 months ago