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  • right, rep. schakowsky, legislate a trainwreck then pose with your ideological ambulances and lawyer special interests and tell us how you'll make your disaster better for us. No thanks.

  • Your health care system is an international joke. Your inability to have a reasoned debate without degenerating into name-calling dunderheads ("Socialist!" "Communist!") is appalling.

  • She is a creep. Talks about the double digit price increases in health insurance without saying a thing about double digit health care costs increases.

    Does she thinks the insurance companies print money to pay their bills, like the government does?

  • And she's a liar. View the video "The Public Plan Deception - I'ts Not About Choice" for some more video clips of her, where she couldn't be clearer about what she wants, and how she intends to do it.

  • "If it is not possible for a private company to compete with the government, how do you explain this? "

    These exist because the government chooses to let them exist. If the Postal Service chose to phase out Fedex, UPS, et al, and take over fast-package delivery, they would disappear.

    The goal of the Obama plan is to phase out private insurance. Anybody who believes otherwise is swallowing the blue pill.

  • "I could list private vs public examples all day long, so why don't these retards get it? "

    This "retard" knows that those public versions are not free. You pay for them with taxes. In effect, if you go to the beach and I don't, I am paying for your use of the public beach. Is that just?

    What's worse is this: we're not going to go broke paying for a public beach, but universal health care, with the currency on the verge of collapse? This is CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT. We're broke.

  • 1) The reason for inflation in private insurance prices is largely government intervention.

    2) No private business can compete with the national government, because the government does not go out of business if it works poorly. With unlimited tax dollars to cushion whatever managerial mistakes, the government program continues where the best private business would collapse.

    3) How does a fee-based insurer compete with a "free" public service?

    The cake is a lie.

  • I am so afraid of the Democratic health plan. I can/t afford to pay more for health insurance or to go out of the country for care when our care deteriorates. Once again, the Democrats are screwing the poor under the guise of helping the poorer people in this country.

  • But you LOVE the way Insurance HMO's are screwing us now.....hmm feels so GOOD!

  • oh my gosh, that's some backpedaling!

  • "...It's about choice..." - you want to end up with a single payer system and you claim this? BS!

    "...private insurance companies need to shape up and compete...." - compete with the government? An entity that can print money and go 11 trillion dollars in debt? BS!

  • You know one of the things I find odd is that the poor disaffected minority Americans who want this program already despise the county health clinic they are forced to go to today, yet they are voting for a system that will provide them no other choice, but that type of system. PLUS, they are swallowing it from a rich white person, who will never have to be part of the nightmare they create. *boggle*

  • there is no question that private insurance should do better--and it would, if it was exposed to real market forces. Insurance companies don't compete, they collude! Support HR 1583 to repeal the anti trust exemptions for insurance companies

  • Exactly!

    First, insurance companies are saying that they don't want to lose jobs, but deregulation would create even more jobs without the need for government regulation.

    After we deregulated the telecom industry, homeless people now walk around with cell phones.

  • ROFL -- yeah, right, as if that's what she meant. What a liar. She even said (or "yelled" is a better word for it) about how she WANTS single-payer, and how "this ISN'T a principled fight. It's about getting us there".  That video is in my playlist of Commentaries.

  • I would so like to see that Schakowsky bitch's skull pounded in.

  • Boy, aren't you a MAN...better yet a toad for the insurance industry!

  • 16million people in America are without insurance out of over 300million and we are going to destroy our healthcare system for that? We are going to raise our debt levels by trillions of dollars for that?

  • Health care has become so expensive because of government regulation (what must be covered). In my opinion, the first thing to go with a single-payer system will be coverage for acupuncture and chiropractic treatment - though frankly, that may actually make it affordable again.

  • Liar. "What I said was .....". Usually you know that when a politician says this, you know they're lying either way.

    Doubletalk, a requirement when you are a politician.

  • NameNotaNumber,

    Of course she is back pedelling, she is a politician and has been caught telling the truth so she now has to fix that mistake with a big lie. BTW, healthcare in Europe is like a giant mediocre HMO, in the UK it is the worse. I was born and raised over there.

  • Healthcare has continued to increase disproportionately because of the medical lobbying and corrupt legislators.Why should legislaors worry about ordinary taxpayers when they have great insurance benefits plus the ability to recieve huge bribes ,and huge campaign donations for themselves and their families.

  • It's impossible to compete with a Government socialist solution, they can hide the costs and steal citizens money to support their plan.

  • It is not impossible to compete with a government service.

    If public options put private options out of business, then why do people still pay 10 times more to go to a private college versus a state college?

    How much better is Stanford over the University of Texas? UT actually does better in math, science, sports, etc yet people still send their kids to expensive private universities.

    People who can afford it will go with private insurance just like private schools.

  • UltraSWG -- you're way TOO logical & rational.

    This debate has to be about socialism & how Obama's gonna kill old people, etc.. -- lots of yelling & screaming!!

  • Indeed.

    Here's another public option that competes with private companies: the Postal Service.

    The Postal Service is cheap, has a monopoly on letters, and gets federal protection benefits as well as provides services no other courier can, like registered mail.

    However, FedEx, UPS, DHL, Airborne Express, Golden State and a host of other courier companies THRIVE in this country.

    If it is not possible for a private company to compete with the government, how do you explain this?

  • I am in total AGREEMENT w/your comment; maybe you misunderstand mine.

    YES, a public option can compete effectively with the private sector. Some people just don't get this.......

  • I understood. Was just giving one more thing to agree with me on.

    Here's more:

    State and Federal Parks vs private parks

    Public beaches vs private beaches

    Public pools vs private pools

    Toll roads vs public roads

    State sponsored daycare vs private daycare

    Public hunting lands vs private hunting lands

    Public fishing lakes vs private fishing lakes

    I could list private vs public examples all day long, so why don't these retards get it?

  • What the hell is this woman talking about? She's entirely backpedaling from her earlier inflammatory points which she made to a crowd of leftist supporters....and what's more, what the hell is wrong with these liberals that they don't UNDERSTAND WHY health insurance is so expensive? It's because there are so many mandates and regulations which control what companies can offer us, there is nothing APPROACHING consumer choice and competition! The solution is NOT the state! This woman is so dumb.

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