xing yi 5 element linking form (五行连环--薛颠拳法）--xue dian style

[knotytjhing]

A Campbell Cane could be an interesting senior defense device. I was asked last year about designing a cane that could be functional, artistic and defensive. The latest design fits this description. I was involved in martial arts in the 60's..now I am way over 60. I would not want to be on the other end.

[GreenviewMark]

One bit of honest advice, form looks really great but dont look down. I could be wrong but it seems to me like there is a bit of ground staring going on.

Other than that I cant complain!

[yuwang508]

Hi Master Yang,

How can you prove this is 薛颠's Xing Yi?

Who did you learn from it?

I am very interested.

thanks

[wuboyblue]

Wow, awesome demo...If I had half a mind I may learn something.

[ukguy]

great vids hope to see more of the xue dian style

[berinjiajia]

Thanks for posting your styles demo, looks nice!

[lazytiger1127]

太硬了...

[Juan0003]

That's what your wife told me...

[eagleclaw1080]

hahahahahaha

[wckoek]

His movement and power would be more effective if he doesn't bend his back, need to correct this habit.

BTW, your Hebei Xingyi was similar to the style practiced by my teacher.

Good job in presenting the authentic style of this martial arts.

[Juan0003]

His "habit" is part of Xue Dian's stylistic modifications. It's not wrong. See if you can find photos of Xue Dian and compare.

[wckoek]

I couldn't find any photos of Xue Dian, since he was killed by the army years ago.

I do have his 象形拳术 which has his drawings.

I am not familiar with Xue Dian's Xingyi as well, but I mean this isn't what I really expect when I read his book and description from others.

But maybe you are right in stylistic modification.

Hope someone can clarify more on this.

[Juan0003]

You can go and see some pictures at emptyflower, the forum. There was a PDF of his xingyi book also going around the web. Good luck!

[wckoek]

But I always have some reservations over photos, as you see people's form, their own interpretation do change from time to time, as well as age may caught up.

You can see a noticable different in for example, Yang Cheng-Fu's photo from his earlier and later days.

[Juan0003]

Well, that is true with every teacher. But Xue's book was written by him, with photographs with his permission. It's more than possible that what he wanted to promote with that book was what he believed to be the pinnacle of his art and, at the same time, the basic elements on which to build. So, you can safely view those pictures as a solid reference to what Xue was teaching.

[stefalim]

the biggest misconception about Xingyi is about the straight back. It never was meant to be straight as in 90 degrees to the floor, but leaning forward for intent and power and still keeping the back muscles straight. That is true Xingyi.

[wckoek]

I agree with that, but the 龙折身 is more to the upper part of the body rather than the whole back.

And you must 收臀，keep your hips. I've got Xue Dian's book, but couldn't totally agree on his stance though he had good principles.

[stefalim]

First, did I mislead you in thinking that you could write in chinese to me? lol. I'm really not that in love with chinese cultures to learn that. I'm a martial artist and train very hard at it, not a language specialist. So feel free to translate so you can have an honest response on my part.

[wckoek]

The leaning back you mention, is part of the 3 principles which may translate to chicken leg, bear shoulder and dragon back.

But this 3 principles must also adhere to the 8 word principles. It was difficult to explain to you the who 8 word principles, your teacher might know san ding, san kou, san min, san bao, san qu, san ting.

As we concerns about the back, the san ting principles mentioned the neck supports, head straight, back bone supports and qi flows.

[wckoek]

I have never learned Xue Dian's style before, but Li ZhongXuan, a student of Xue Dian's wrote in his book, that a tip in practicing zhan zhuang is that the whole back bone flexes from the bottom to the neck like a dragon. Well, dragon is a very chinese way of describing things. But what he mention is that the flexing is a result of motion rather than bending or keeping it to 90 degrees to the floor all times

When you practice wuxingquan, on your chicken step you actually flexes your upper back.

[wckoek]

This create a slight tension before releasing a blow which adds power to your attack.

This is quite a natural movement or beneficial practice rather than a stiff stance itself.

I am not learned in the Xue Dian style but from Shang Yun Xiang's students, all old timer's practitioner's pictures showed they only bend their upper back and most motion on movements naturally.

You might have a check on dai style xinyiquan which was the origin of Xingyi, though they have different stylistic principles

[wckoek]

I understand you trained very hard in improving yourself, and I am in no way of writing chinese with any malice intent, I just thought that you are a chinese as your name contained "Lim" a common surname in chinese.

We are all here to share our knowledge, to improve ourselves. Please correct me if you think that I am wrong or have any comments you would like to make.

Thanks.

[whatisyournameya]

i am the person in this video's teacher, all of these videos under this account are made by us.

to be honest to you, most you have wrote here are totally wrong.

plus, Lim is not a common surname in chinese, it is even NOT a chinese surname at all.

I am chinese, by the way...

[wckoek]

Yeah, would you mind to explain your point where I am wrong?

[wckoek]

那好，还请您指点我说的那一点错了。

[mixjourneyman]

actually I think this is an over generalization. Some styles of xingyi such as the style that Di Guoyong teaches do keep the back vertical. Martial arts has a lot of variation, even in the same style.

[wckoek]

From逝去的武林, it was mentioned that Xue Dian's stylistic difference are mainly on the 12 animal forms, like his象形拳法. On this video, the steps are a little like趟泥步,was this the main difference rather than身法？

I didn't know much of Xue Dian's teaching, and didn't heard of much persons learning his style too, hope you can shed some lights on his Xingyi?

[polariswushudotnet]

Nice form- solid basics!

[hilaryhearts]

I was a little confused by the other linking form video you guys had (i liked it, i just got thrown off on a few things) but i could tell it was xing-yi. This looks like the style we practice in my class, and I could actually recognize everything. We're a lot more upright, but it may just be the difference in school.

great vid!

love.hils

[nycje]

I have been reading up on the Neijia and Waijia styles and am currently looking for a school/teacher in New York City. I have visited a few schools (One Xing Yi student of Kenny Gong and a few Shaolin style schools) but I am not entirely satisfied with what I have discovered. Please offer any advice or recommendations of teachers in NYC. Thank you -Jerry

[DaiBoxer]

Hats off teacher Yang! As I used to train Hebei style, I do Shanxi (Dai/Che) style predominantly now, but I always admire you guys' method too. This is the way Hebei should be done. Cheers!

[mixjourneyman]

Sudan!  come back to ef, bro!!!!!

[DaiBoxer]

Heh, no doubt bro. Ill be around.

[Juan0003]

That guy really needs a better haircut!

:-P

[maudabaun]

Hi, nice to see the new video. I am coming back to Montreal for a month - I will see you in tai chi class. I need some reminding because I've forgotten everything and don't practice any more. I will pay attention this time!

Kerri

[cubgrumpz]

hmmm

[j4j1g3]

hey c mon frere lol

[mixjourneyman]

Nice stuff guys! :)

[raphamundsen]

Beautiful! I'll watch it over and over again!Thank youv ery much for posting, and congratulations to the performer.