P-40's in action, New Guinea

[kyffaa]

Thanks for your uploaded it is very useful info. for me coz I built the model of P-40E

[CaptJackSpeed]

The Australians and New Zealanders were great heroes. Earlier, they fought the Japanese in Malaysia and Indonesia while flying Brewster Buffaloes, Blenheims, and Walrus and Vildebeast biplanes. They were very heroic.One of my friends sailed with some of his squadron mates from Java to Australia rather than surrender. The journey took 47 days at sea.

[peterm3964]

RAAF number 1 squadron .Flight sergent Charles Park MILLS gunner wireless operator . lockheed hudsons . Malaya indonesia singapore , new guinea .

[peterm3964]

Go RAAF. I am proud to say >My father was dropping supplies to ground troops in the BUNA GONA campaign

[TheRealNeill]

At least some of those P-40s were from my old squadron, 76SQN, RAAF. I have shown some of those veterans around the Hawk 127s we have now.

[Wawnie]

@TheRealNeill Dad was with 76 Squadron and was about to be given Squadron Leader of 76 Sq. but had to be shipped out due to a serious illness (not Malaria).

[krisp101]

P-40s shooting jap snipers out of treetops- LMAO

[Wawnie]

@krisp101 . My father flew with 76 Squadron here and this is true. The American ground troops would place flares at each end of their lines and the Squadron would strafe anything to the East, often within 15-20 metres of the troops because of so many Japs in the trees.

[soyhemorroide]

por cierto el p-40 era incapaz de alcanzar la velocidad decente de combate normal de 500km/h como era la norma en la luftwaffe. bueno solo el fw-190 era capaz de eso, combate de giros a alta velocidad, volar lento solo te convertia en blanco de hit and run

[soyhemorroide]

el p40 era una basura solo util para combatir las avionetas japonesas lentas, mal armadas y peor blindadas, en africa con total superioridad numerica solo hizo el ridiculo junto a cientos de spit y hurricane frente a un par de escuadrillas del jg27 con bf-109f armados con una simple mg151 15mm en el buje de la helice, esa simple ametralladora eso si muy precisa se impuso en los cielos de africa, mandando al p-40 a simple avion de entrenamiento

[BigDummy23]

How do you explain then how over 45 RAF and commonwealth pilots reached 'Ace' status with the P-40?

Clive Caldwell alone shot down 20 German fighters in a P-40

You are repeating a bunch of mythology check the wiki mate

[soyhemorroide]

clive caldwell shot down 10 fighter (bf-109) in a p-40, the other defenseless bombers.

aces with only 5 or more shot down

counting that the planes attacked on land

it is possible to shoot down a plane at an airport and still count as a victory?

[BigDummy23]

Ten Bf 109s, and two Macchi Mc 202 which were better fighters. Bombers aren't 'defenseless' either, most German aces racked up kills against bombers and obsolete Russian (I-153 biplanes) French (Ms 406), or British (gladiator, hurricane) fighters. Guys like Joachim Marseilles were rare exceptions.

No they did not include the planes attacked on the ground as victories. Air to air only.

The russians also had multiple P-40 aces against the Germans. Kuznetsov had over 20 kills in the P40.

[BigDummy23]

Later on the US 325 Fighter Group 'checkertail clan' shot down 95 Bf 109 during a six month period in North Africa, for the loss of 17 P-40s. The 324th FG had a 2-1 kill ratio with P40s

[BigDummy23]

There were at least 46 aces and twelve other double aces flying P40s for the RAF or Commonwealth in North Africa, including Billy Drake (13 Kills) Nicky Barr (10 kills), James 'Stocky' Edwards (12 kills) including German 'experten' Otto Shutlz. The RAF 112 Squadron had 118 victories for 17 losses, RAF 450 sqd had 48 victories for 29 losses, and RAAF No 3 had 115 kills for 34 losses, all flying P-40s.

[soyhemorroide]

jg-27 I / II / III gruppe outnumbered only 90 aircraft

3 years and were not defeated

the RAF (p-40,spit, hurricani) numerical superiority

lost ground and is not myth

[BigDummy23]

The mythology of Jg 27 somewhat exceeds their actual (considerable) successes. RAF squadrons like 112 Sqd, 450 Sqd and RAAF No 3 were not 'defeated' either, and had 32 pilots each normally. And the fact is the Luftwaffe WAS eventually defeated in North Africa weather you like it or not, they did lose air superiority.

I don't get why people become so personally invested in the exploits of soldiers of either side, but this seems to particularly be true of the Germans. Goebles did his job well.

[soyhemorroide]

jg-27 low-performing, best-of JG 52 and JG-54

[soyhemorroide]

air superiority in north africa with 90 planes, never the luftwaffe never had air superiority but had to be carried out 4, 5, 6, 7 or more outlets for being so small a force, always a few planes. few pilots and even less fuel

[BigDummy23]

Also Jg 27 wasn't alone, they had the excellent fighters of the Regia Aeronautica on their side, just as the RAF was supported by South African, Australian, and Canadian pilots.

[soyhemorroide]

regia aeronautica shit, bad bad bad

slow aircraft

without power,

without weapons

without climb

without zoom

without maneuverability  High-speed

never hit and run

tactics of the First World War turn burn

[terryjohn]

but were very brave pilots ..

tj

[1926Donal]

What do you call not having enough fuel because the ships bringing it have been put on the bottom of the Mediterranean by the UK and Commonwealth navies and air forces? What do you call it when the opposing forces leave no room for an airstrip? No not defeat -- tactical withdrawal!

[blueflame53]

great pilots and great planes

[binaway]

@BigDummy23 My dad with the British army in Norway witnessed a Navy supermarine Walrus shoot down a Bf109. The 109 dived on the Walrus and the gunner firing back must have hit a vital engine part as smoke started pouring out as the it splutter to a stop and crashed. The captured pilot was apparently indignant at being shot down by such a slow plane.

[peterm3964]

Lockhed Hudson Crews ferried Supplies into Buna And Gona and brought out wounded and dead Aussies and American soldiers . These fights were called biscuit bombers... because they carried dog biscuits for the troops .

[blueycarlton]

The FIRST defeats suffered by the Jap.Army in WW2 were by the Australians at Milne Bay and on the Kokoda Track.

Ex Melbourne F.C. footballer SQ.Leader Keith "Bluey" Truscott led the Kittyhawk P40s straffing the Japs who had reached the edge of the airfield.

If these had been American victories Hollywood would have enshrined these heroic deeds on celluloid.

[MIT1369]

Many of us still remember fondly our noble Aussie and Kiwi allies. Semper Fidelis!

[irish89055]

@MIT1369 Yes, America never had a better ally than Australia... a point on another video by bomberguy, by an Aussie I think, noted something I hadn't thought of before that Australia pulled it's troops from the ETO early on in the war.. though some Aussies served in bomber command,patrol duty and of course in North Africa..

[Wawnie]

@blueycarlton The 'celluloid' is being worked on, Mate. I am working on my Dad's memorabilia (and I have plenty) and have plenty of material to work on. Milne Bay was the FIRST time the Japs had been turned back in 400 years. Dad flew with Bluey in 452 and 76 Sq's.

[blueycarlton]

@Wawnie

Good on you. All that generation were heroes.

But growing up in the 50's and 60's everybody's dad/mum was in the war.

My father was in the Royal Australian Engineers.

But, for me, it's not until you have kids of your own and they are the age of those blokes 18-30, that you realise what a sacrafice they made to save our freedom.

And those untrained kids (MEN) in New Guinea, the 39th/53rd militia who delayed & held out the Japs just long enough on the track, well , they were amazing.

[christof139]

@Wawnie, Koreans stopped the Japanese for some time in the 1600's. Flat out beat them on land & at sea.

[Wawnie]

@christof139  Thanks for that. I was just quoting an AWM newsreel (not sure which one) but 300 odd years still a long stretch - they were a pretty determined foe

[christof139]

@Wawnie, Hi, Yeah the japanese were determined. The Russians also stopped them at Mukden 20 February to 10 March 1905 even though the Russians lost more troops & withdrew 10-miles or so, they had caused the Japanese forces nearly as many casualties & Japan did not have enough troops to continue any offensives in the region. In 1939 Zhukov of the USSR beat the japanese at Khalkhin Gol, & the Chinese had stopped further deep jap. penetrations into China.

[Dagger1955]

@blueycarlton

Well don't forget the U.S. Army's 41st Infantry Division was there too. Two of my uncles were in it.

[sadia102]

I am checking out anything relating to Aussies in New Guinea ww2. My dad was an anti-aircraft sergeant. Thank you for this.

[SmiertSpionem]

Awesome.