The Myth of Male Power - Warren Farrell - 3/19

[shamelessfootfucker]

only reason why "patriarchical" politics, wars, ect. exist is because women subconsiouslly favor symbols of power in males. The "patriarchical" drives are subconcious as well, in order to basically catch women's attention.

[PutaDeMigracionVAWA]

There are Laws, Court and Police practices that encourage an epidemic of False Accusations of Domestic Violence, Abuse and Rape in this country. Women gain from False Accusations - Why?

The "Feminist" Ideology that is now Indoctrinated into Politics, the Government, Courts, Police and General Public, that:

- Women are Good, Men are Bad!

- Women are helpless Victims, Men are Perpetrators!

- Women need Help and Protection, Men must be Restrained, Prosecuted and Jailed!

... - Why?

[PutaDeMigracionVAWA]

G00gle: Martha Laura Granados Immigration Prostitute

VAWA Immigration by False Accusations:

If you are an immigrant woman, pretend to be in love with a US citizen or a Legal Resident, get him to marry you. Then dial 211 and falsely accuse him of Domestic Violence and Rape and move to a VAWA shelter.

You will be on a fast-track for a Green-Card and US citizenship - all expenses paid for by the US tax payer and as a bonus you will be getting full social benefits.

[martins2009]

7:18 to 7:48 "Men are the disposiable sex" WOW... ! I Never thought of it that way,

its so ture, men are diposiabe... thats just wrong but true.

[psandbergnz]

There is huge discrimination against the male in western nations. That is why it is perfectly acceptable in the USA to hand over baby boys for genital cutting (circumcision) for no medical reason, but it is unthinkable to make even the least unnecessary alteration of girls' genitalia.

[CanadiaNecro1]

@psandbergnz It is believed that circumcision is beneficial to the boy. It's not like they do it to be mean. It's done out of ignorance. Not that that makes it okay.

If it makes you feel any better women are also encouraged to mutilate themselves for vanity- breats implants, face lifts, lip implants, genetal waxing- all things that are bad for her body.

[turnbacktime]

@nlyske no i wont acknowwledge it because its not caused by women.

Hillary Clinton & Condoleeza rice only have the power to agree, to even think that these women have any power in legislating wars is absurd.

Secondly, men die earlier than women because our bodies are genetically 'disposable' and we see the exact same pattern with different species.

[lizajeans]

scientists can now create sperm from female dna. Problem solved. we should keep the really smart guys.....don't need the rest. there should be a 9/1 ratio women to men. Great numbers of beta males obsolete in world of mechanization and technology (created by smart men we will keep)

how to effectively whittle numbers of men down I'm not sure.......

[tjmac7]

@lizajeans - youre clueless. you dont need to whittle men down, you can bend their gender by polluting their food and water supplies with chemicals effectively turning them all into feminised drones, women will hate them for it and most wont breed. As for keeping the smart males, those are the guys who start the conflict the poor beta males are ordered to fight, the same beta males who are happy with peace and a beer until they are press ganged by a smart ass.

[nlyske]

@tjmac7 the fem part maybe but the drones part your an idiot

[tjmac7]

@nlyske - "the fem part maybe but the drones part your an idiot"

you have obviously never worked in the public sector.

[nlyske]

@tjmac7 what is that supposed to mean?

[nlyske]

@lizajeans and we can clone men so why do we need women at all

[nlyske]

@lizajeans your referring to the work of Dr.Nayernia and they are no where near making it they got close with a male mouse but there not even close with a human male and its a theory anyway

[Dr9steen]

Women will listen yes, but they will also use this information to manipulate men further. Its their nature to challenge man in order to test his inner strength as the protector, provider and creator.

This isnt a bad thing.

However, this has become a negative one sided process now that the man is no longer free to respond as the dominating, protective, ruling, wolverine that he should be.

[watchtheduck]

@Dr9steen Oh, sure. Women are totally conspiring against men just to test them! That is simply paranoia! You want to talk about a one sided process? I think you said it yourself, that man should be dominating, protective and ruling. What is more one-sided than that?

[Dr9steen]

@watchtheduck When did I say, "women are conspiring against men"? ( not that they dont,).

If women want to be unprotected, thats cool. Less responsibility for the man i guess.

But who is teaching the men that less attachment and responsibility= less headache.

[turnbacktime]

joining the army is a choice. Secondly, men start wars not women.

[nyerndc]

What I find it amazing that there are 5 government bureaus solely for woman's health and none for men. Men are expendable in every facet of society. But then who gives a S$%^T look at the # of views. Ugh!

[watchtheduck]

I agree! But who is responsible? Women hold only a small percentage of political office. The majority is controlled by men. Put the blame where it belongs which is on the patriarchal rulers that govern and distribute how money will be spent. Women cherish their husbands, sons, fathers, so let's not blame them for the lack of health options available to either gender. Men, if you don't like the system, buck the men who are in charge, not the women, most of which would agree with you.

[OoOLawlietFerSurOoO]

@nyerndc

True, I'm surprised this doesn't have more views. He has so many interesting things to say and more people need to listen.

[watchtheduck]

Okay, I can't quit yet. Men as disposable body guards? Against who? Women intruders? It's a well known fact that women fight to the death to protect their children. For this author to use the term unpaid body guard in reference to a man wanting to protect loved ones is offensive. In that case men as well as women should simply run from anyone wanting to harm their children since it appears to be dishonorable to be an unpaid body guard, almost as dishonorable as cleaning toilets.

[WizardKing78]

I can understand why people are expected to protect their own children, but why should a man be expected to protect any woman who he happens to be with at the time?

Women are not expected to do household chores anymore. Thus men should not be expected to be chivalrous towards women.

[turnbacktime]

joining the army is a choice. Secondly, men start wars not women.

men naturally die before women, its genetic, and people commit suicide on their own accord. Women are more likely to attempt suicide but males are far more likely to ultimately die from it.

[WizardKing78]

@turnbacktime

Joining the army is not a choice when it's conscription.

Women in political power have started wars before. All of the men who watched this video have never started a war.

Men die before women partially because of genetics, true. However, much of the reason is due to discrimination in healthcare. Next time you're waiting the the doctors surgery, I suggest you look at the faces on the leaflets. 80% of them will be female.

[turnbacktime]

man-up dude. stop with the excuses.

Today, no one can force you to join the army. Men start far more wars than women so your point about Women in political power starting wars wasn pointless. what does women being on leaflets have to do with anything?

[WizardKing78]

@turnbacktime There's something like ten times more men in poltical office than women, so it shouldn't surprise you that men start most of the wars. Besides, that doesn't justify the sexist policy of only conscripting men in times of war.

The fact that leaflets in doctors surgeries mostly feature women's faces, proves that the healthcare system cares more about women than it does about men.

[turnbacktime]

@WizardKing78 I dont believe you about the leaflets because i've been to the hospital many times in my life, but even if it were true its obviously because women are far more likely to be hospitalised.

[bxjam85]

@WizardKing78 I agree the great majority of what you've said, but I would be careful with the term sexism. If a sexist is a person who acknowledges that there are differences between the sexes that can make one suited for a specific task than the other, the concept of sexism needs to be revised. These gender roles (men being conscripted and women staying home to take care of children) had a functional purpose. Let's not make men into the new victims of history.

[Jarocho2003]

@WizardKing78

I think sayinng something like "man up" after hearing this video is totally retarded as the point of the video is not to empower men more than women, but to admit that there are inherit faults in the way we define our roles in society. So men start wars? That's true, but most women in the World live off men hard work and then still complain about men...umhhhh

[unfortunatebeam]

@turnbacktime "man up" stfu with that stupid bullshit.

[turnbacktime]

@nlyske society is ran by men. if men see other men as expandle dont blame women.

[nlyske]

@turnbacktime socially no we don't have you been listening at all. im not blaming women but its equally there fault too

[turnbacktime]

@nlyske wtf are you talking about, how can it be equally there fault if they're NOT to blame?

[nlyske]

@turnbacktime women are part of society and push along stereo types in the media as well and agree and or suggest war and other matters of that nature in government. when i said women aren't to blame alone no but there behaviour in some aspects towards men in general are and vice versa in the treatment of women in some aspects

[turnbacktime]

@nlyske we're talking about within the context of starting wars. of course women are part of society just like everything else, how could they not be?

Woman hove no say in the matter of implementing wars and you know that. How many army generals are women?

Look at the rape occurrences on women AND MEN during wars, always perpetrated by men.

[nlyske]

@turnbacktime look all i ask is that you aleast acknowledge mens unfair treatment too. generals don't have a say politicans do and yes women do hillary clinton,condoleeza rice just to name afew of the female politicans who have the infleuince and did in fact were infavour of the war in iraq

[turnbacktime]

@nlyske no i wont acknowwledge it because its not caused by women.

Hillary Clinton & Condoleeza rice only have the power to agree, to even think that these women have any power in legislating wars is absurd.

Secondly, men die earlier than women because our bodies are genetically 'disposable' and we see the exact same pattern with different species.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ar­ticle-1323571/Why-women-live-l­onger-men-Male-bodies-genetica­lly-disposable.html

[nlyske]

@turnbacktime yes they can,if there was same amount of female politicans. it would be the same its the fact that society considers men expendable and thats not right

[nlyske]

@WizardKing78 it being genetics is bullshit how many men compared to women work hazardous jobs most men work hazardous jobs and have to worry about cancer or falling debris while most women work desk job and have to worry about tendonitis (harmless pain in the hands)

[unfortunatebeam]

@turnbacktime it's not genetic that men die before women. Up unitl recently, there were many countries, usually in the poorer countries, where men lived or almost lived as long as women. IN our own society, a quick check thru life expectancy stats going back to the 1920s, you will see that men died only about 1 year or so before women until about the mid 20th century, when men started to die even sooner. So this being the case, how the hell is it genetic genius?

[turnbacktime]

@unfortunatebeam your 1920's stat is clearly made up. In every singe country on earth regardless of its economic status, men always die before women.

[unfortunatebeam]

@turnbacktime Made up? Just look up the Vital Statistics Report on the national center for health statistics website (us department of health) and you will see that in 1920 men died average 53.6 and women 54.6 flash forward 20 years to 1940 and men's average was 60.8 and women's 65.8, a gap increase of 5 years in just 20, and it would continue to widen as the years went off, until it began to narrow slightly in the late 90s. what's so genetic about this?

[nlyske]

@turnbacktime its not genetic most men work hazardous jobs and have to worry about cancer and other life threating conditions while most women work desk jobs and maybe get tendonitis (a harmless soreness in the hands)

[thespacialone]

@turnbacktime Saying "men start wars" is absurd, pathetic. People with the power to start wars start wars when circumstances permit or demand.

Most biologists agree that male bodies are potentially destined to live around ten years longer than women. It's the stress related to the mating game that ensures they don't. Castrati lifespans bear this out.

Men succeed more in suicide attempts because suicidal men are much more sincere in their pursuit, i.e. genuinely suicidal, not cry-for-help.

[turnbacktime]

@thespacialone People with power are overwhelmingly men, thats a fact.

I agree with your point about suicide.

[Kenshiroit]

@turnbacktime that's irrilevant. It's not the specific gender who starts war, but economic and politics. Not who has a dick and who's not. Women in power dont behave differently.

[turnbacktime]

@Kenshiroit forget starting wars,looking at crime stats, which gender commits more crimes?

[Kenshiroit]

@turnbacktime both gender commit crimes. Honestly do u have anything serious on your hand or just empty childish talk?

[turnbacktime]

@Kenshiroit nice way to avoid the question, are you having comprehension difficulties?

did i say women dont commit crime? answer the question or shut-up.

[Kenshiroit]

@turnbacktime nice language and manners. Do u always tell people u talk to shut up? I give u a little advice (u can take it or leave it) never ever tell people to [...] because that makes u a bad debater and caracter and invalidate the point u try to make (im not saying u r a bad person). Now I ask u a question, did I told to [...]? no!  so why r u using this language toward me? back 2 the topik, I answered u already, perhaps my answer doesent satisfy u, so it's time to move on...so whats next?

[turnbacktime]

@Kenshiroit please stop wasting my time..

[Kenshiroit]

@turnbacktime what time? lol im not responsable for your inability to manage your own time, that's something you manage by yourself....

[Storyboard912]

@turnbacktime OK, we get the point; you hate men. Let us move on!

[turnbacktime]

@Storyboard912 I'm a man, lol. i dont see how feminism is a problem for man today... please explain to me why? if i cant dispute anything you say with logic you win the argument.

[Storyboard912]

@turnbacktime I have a funny feeling that your opinion of men will never be swayed, so there is very little need to introduce any argument. I've read the posts, and have seen valid arguments worth consideration, but were met with bias opinion disguised as research. By the way, I already knew you were a man but have you heard the term "Misandry". Men also engage in this type of behavior. hint hint

But its not your fault, we are taught from birth to believe men are bad.

[turnbacktime]

@Storyboard912 hmmm, are you black or white?

[Storyboard912]

@turnbacktime Why does that even matter? What kind of question is that? You haven't asked anyone that question thus far.

[Storyboard912]

@turnbacktime And I'm warning you, be very careful how you reply. If you intend on turning a conversation based on the assumptions of feminism into one based on race, your youtube account will be short lived, I can promise you that!

[turnbacktime]

@Storyboard912 no offence but your "threats" mean absolutely nothing.

[Storyboard912]

@turnbacktime But I've had my fun. You have proven everything I stated earlier. When faced with opposition, you resort to petty name calling or senseless questions that are designed to expose your opponents race. I'm done here.

[ColonelCosmic]

@turnbacktime "men start wars not women."

So, you would agree then, that if a woman-ruler (president, prime minister, queen, etc) started a war, then only women should be forced (on BOTH sides!!) to fight said war, right? The men stay at home and only women get drafted because a woman 'started the war". That is something that you would agree to, correct?

[rtardbox]

@watchtheduck it's okay... you're just an idiot! men protect women from all intruders, male or female, on behalf of the women's interests.

now, with children they are "owned" and "ruled over" ... but women have equal rights yet still have the privileged of being protected sans reciprocation.

if you don't understand my words here and still think it's a woman's entitlement to be protected 'cause she's got a vagina then that's okay... you're just a moron! yeah for morons! oh yes you are! yes!

[watchtheduck]

One more comment and then I'll quit. Comparing life expectancy as a means of implying that men's lives must be more difficult than women's doesn't take into account that historically men tend to abuse their bodies more than women. The binge drinking, cigar smoking, rough riding, thrill seeking, red meat eating, fighting man is a macho ideal constructed by men and a road to an early death. Men that take good care of their health live just as long as women do. It's about responsibility not gender.

[WizardKing78]

Discrimination in the health system - such as cancer screening for women but not for men - doesn't exactly help matters.

[watchtheduck]

@WizardKing78 what are you talking about? Prostate cancer education and screening is just as available as cancer screening for women. Topping that, most health studies are conducted on men and final analysis based upon male structure not female structure despite many biological differences. But why is it necessary for men and women to jab each other? If it bothers you go to the head of the health department and lodge your comlaint there. Be proactive instead of reactive.

[WizardKing78]

1. In the UK, women are offered routine screening programs for breast and cervical cancer. Men, however, are only offered screening for prostate cancer if symptomatic. If that's not basic discrimination, I don't know what is.

2. Yes, most drugs testing is done on men. Drugs are tested on men before women in the same way they are on animals before humans. Also, laboratories don't want to cause harm to unborn children.

I am doing something proactive. Hence the Farrell vids!

[blupheonix44]

@watchtheduck

Because a womans word is worth MORE than a mans, in court....

[watchtheduck]

The answer is not to compare men and women and then blame any inequity on one or the other. Neither men or women are pulling all the strings. If members of both genders would stop blaming each other and hone in on the true sources of our cultural biases; tradition, religion, childhood conditioning, only then can we free ourselves from the vampirous effect of having our power sucked out of us. While valuing our differences if we stopped defining ourselves by them we'd be one step closer.

[watchtheduck]

In Africa, young girls and boys are put through coming of age rituals that are barbaric. These rituals are performed by members of their same gender. Examining our own culture closely, who is it exactly that locks men into doctrines of masculinity making them war fodder? Is it women that forms the mold of what "makes a man a man" insisting that it holds together? Or has man created the mold that binds them to it, and men that police each other for strict adherance to the rules of "manhood"?

[unfortunatebeam]

I wouldn't be any more concerned if a woman was taken hostage over a man, why should I? If I don't know her, why would I show some extra concern for her? It's not logical. It's unfortunate that you people here would, but I ask you why? I'm a man too, so don't give me any talk of your instincts or anything like that. An army with all men against women would win if no weapons were involved any women weren't trained in deadly arts techniques. Throwing more bulk around is ok but not everything

[blupheonix44]

@unfortunatebeam

Not true... Give the women all VD, let em lose on the opposing army... Everyone gets sick... Lol. Just like using pox infested blankets and such, LOL!

[unfortunatebeam]

I disagree partially. I think that idea of women in armies is a good idea. It is a great marker of true equality to have women fighting in wars. However, you do make a good point about the physical strength disadvantage of Western armies with female soldiers and non-western ones with all female. But this can easily be overcome. Wome have proved that they can develop good musculature by lifting weights; I think women's training in armies should be tougher than it is now.

[unfortunatebeam]

Also, it really doesn't take a lot of strength to do battle in modern warfare anyway. Basically, you need the strength to carry and fire certain weaponry (which, yeah, can be heavy at times) and run with the heavy load too. I think women can be trained to meet those requirements. And hand to hand combat, well, I think women can be trained with fighting tactics that would compensate for their smaller size.

[unfortunatebeam]

Women meeting tougher requirements would ensure that Western armies are not at a physical disadvantage in war. And anyway, having more women fight in war would be one of the chief ways to balance one of the most massively disbalanced gender ratios that overwhelming favor women (favoring women by not treating them as meatbags, objects of violence, that are pressured to march of off and be slaughtered like chattle).

[unfortunatebeam]

^^[I meant]non-western ones with all male.

[WizardKing78]

You're not seeing the whole picture. Women serving alongside men in the military often causes problems. Firstly there's the whole issue of sex and pregnancy. Then there's the problem of false allegations of sexual assault/rape. Also, because women aren't required (nor are they keen) to do combat duty, they tend to hoover-up the nice jobs - with training - whilst men are sent into the meat-grinder. This is not fair on men.

And, let's face it, men are naturally more courageous than women.

[WizardKing78]

Only a deeply foolish civilization allows women into the military.

[unfortunatebeam]

Oh yes. I agree that there is potential for those other problems (threat of sexual harrassment claims leading to a distrust and lack of solidarity among soldiers, for instance). But I also agree with Farrell and his belief of socialization causing most of the setbacks for women you mentioned, i.e., less courageous. I think most sociological research confirms the great power of socializing forces on people. So I'm not sure if women are naturally less courageous-but I would lean toward no.

[ianzgoogle]

Women are definitely more emotional than men, and with fear being the big one, this could be a major drawback. Bearing in mind that this same fear is conditioned out as a routine part of military training. However I can't see women in general giving up their emotional reactivity/sensitivity any time soon.

[Hzqi]

If women want to serve, fine. But they then turned aroudn and fucked up the whole idea by doing what these feminuts always do. Make it UN-EQUAL. They should be submitting to the same fitness demand, which is blind to demography.

[WizardKing78]

"No wonder our enemies call our "woman warriors" a joke! No man wants to see his country woman taken hostage."

I fear for Britain and America, I really do. The coming years will put our female army to the test. No doubt there'll be plenty of media coverage for the 'brave' women who died for their country. The Chinese aren't so stupid as to waste money on female 'soldiers'.

[Verlch]

If you think about it, it is men that protect woman' security and rights. Her right to vote, ect. Why should men be forced to support programs women enforce who will undermine the family, and effect men?

All woman units would get slaughtered against an all male enemy.

No wonder our enemies call our "woman warriors" a joke! No man wants to see his country woman taken hostage.