The BNP are revolting (in more ways than one)

[nellyyllen1]

Look mad man who as a non white would join the BNP .This is a government way 2 stop democracy work .people like you think the bbc tell the truth.who would you vote 4 liblabcon .lie and sell you and me out 2 the eu . so clever clogs who .

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker No, not at all. When I criticise people, the amount of melanin in the skin doesn't come into it. If you really think that over eight and a half million of compatriots are paedophiles or paedophile protectors, I can highly recommend, from personal experience, olanzapine.

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker No, I am not criticising white people. The BNP, after all, has non-whites in it. I am criticising the BNP and its members.

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker I'll ignore the first part of your diatribe as I want to focus on why you think I'm Jewish, and why you think being Jewish would be a bad thing.

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker Yes, I am a member of the Labour party. No, I'm not Jewish. The paedophile party claim is laughable, but I would like to ask why you think I'm Jewish and why you think being Jewish would mean that I support the Labour party.

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker Interesting. You've found 25 paedophiles, or whatever they exactly are, in a party of sixty thousand. Just to make it clear, as a percentage, that's 0.04. That is not to say that it is not a problem or that they should not be dealt with appropriately.

Why would Israel be my domain? I'm not Jewish. In any case, Britain's affairs are not 'Christian affairs'.

[DLandonCole]

@bronsisawrecker Wtf?

[jigglyfidda125]

Are people who are 1 quarter black white?

Are Turkish people white?

Are portuguese footballers such as Deco white?

Are Argentianians white?

What if you're white but tan very easily and have brownish skin. Are you white then?

What about Siberians or Kazakhstanis? Are they white?

Wht if you're Australian with european ancestry who's skin evolved to be a bit darker. Are you white then?

What if you're born to arab parents, but your skin is much whiter than your parents. Are you white then?

[UrbanGuerilla88]

The BNP are revolting maybe so, but the guy here is also revolting, a fat idiot preaching to "hope not hate". Fat guy i hope you dont hate the fact it'll take a gastric band to lose the surplous weight you have.

[alanbstard4]

@UrbanGuerilla88 I suspect he's Jewish. Anyone who disagrees with them is "fascist" " Nazi" extremist " etc.

anyone who supports the creeps at searchlight is far worse than the BNP

A lot od what the BNP says is right, not everything, but some, Better Nick Griffin than Billy Bragg

[IndianOlympics]

I am not white! but I have voted recently for the BNP in my local council. Immigration has destroyed the local community and left the local council virtually destitute and trying to find ways to bridge the services gap. Immigration used to be about welcoming people to the customer that like my own family wanted to contribute and make a difference to the local community. The last 10 years of unmanaged immigration has seen isolationist and hostile groups coming in that have no such intention

[UrbanGuerilla88]

@IndianOlympics agreed, im not wholley white either.

[doodledumdi]

Please stop referring to the BNP as 'racist'. This is unhelpful.

[DLandonCole]

@doodledumdi Unhelpful to who?

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole 2) (continued)...address for fear of being branded as a 'racist' and a sort of modern day witch hunt would then be conducted against them. Sorry, that's not true. One person wanted to address this problem but he was taken to court for doing so.

If it helps the BNP now accept members regardless of race so it is incorrect to call them racist, if this word is taken to mean discriminating on racial grounds. Though this word can mean just about anything people want it to mean it seems.

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole 3) (continued) Sometimes the people this ‘racism’ ‘industry’ can damage the most are the coloured people who may start to feel somehow inferior or unable when they receive positive discrimination and people are ‘walking on eggshells’ when dealing with them instead of treating them normally.

[DLandonCole]

@doodledumdi In any case, no. It's completely accurate.

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole how?

[DLandonCole]

@doodledumdi They discriminate on the basis of race.

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole You are aware that they do have non-white and Jewish members? Can you give any examples of this alleged discrimination?

[DLandonCole]

@doodledumdi The constitution that banned non-whites from joining until they were forced to change it, for starters.

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole That was the case. But as you agree has now been changed therefore surely it is no longer valid to call them 'racist' on this basis?

[DLandonCole]

@doodledumdi It was changed because they were forced to change it; unless they have had an almighty change of heart over the last few weeks, that would mean they're still racist. We could also look at their policies, supporters and language, but that would be overkill.

[doodledumdi]

@DLandonCole By the way do you consider organisations such as 'The National Black Police Association' to be racist? There are many such organisations that exclude white British people. However, I cannot think of any organisation that is exclusively for white British people except perhaps the National Front, which interestingly was not taken to court for its membership policy. Could the recent success of the BNP have created a politically motivated trial I wonder? Perhaps I am becoming cynical?

[BulldoggeThe2nd]

'meet you meat the barbarity of halal' on youtube.

[BulldoggeThe2nd]

I find halal / kosher slaughter revolting, and I find the Labour Party revolting for having ignored the pleas of animal rights groups to ban it. So I'll refer the uploader to the following video and ask him to produce a video called 'The Labour Party are Revolting' and perhaps commend the BNP for being the only party committed to banning it (though I don't doubt that multi-culturalism is far higher up his list of priorities than basic animal welfare).

[DLandonCole]

@BulldoggeThe2nd I think that the BNP are using halal and kosher meat as an excuse to bash Muslims and Jews, given their general antipathy to those groups and their history of supporting hunting with hounds.

[BulldoggeThe2nd]

@DLandonCole I suppose its perfectly acceptable though for the Labour Party to take the moral high ground on animal welfare with hunting bans but look the other way when the Farm Animal Welfare Council complains about halal / kosher. How many cows / sheep in the UK are having the heads cut off fully live and concious compared to the number foxes that were being killed???? Every member of the Labour Party deserves the same death!

[DLandonCole]

@BulldoggeThe2nd Firstly, I'm not the Labour party - I'm a member, I don't agree with everything they say. Secondly, the FAWC has expressed concerns about some halal slaughter but is working with halal certifying authorities to resolve those concerns. Thirdly, if you make another comment like that last sentence, I'm just going to ignore you as a troll.

[missjanegrrrl]

Good video. The latest stunt from the BNP has been their 'Bring the Troops Home' campaign - this involves getting people to sign a petition (seems like they've given up on elections after Barking!) and those who sign the petition can expect a letter from Gri££in begging for donations - shameful, absolutely shameful.

[DeeDemonwitch]

"People's Front of Judea, anyone?" - indeed Mr LandonCole, indeed :)

[fortyone0]

Its amazing to me that in this day and age parties like this exist. Its seems at least that the BNP are more of a joke then any real threat.

[DLandonCole]

@fortyone0 I'm afraid that they, and the actions they take and espouse, are a real threat.

[RoyalistNationalist]

I'm not one of these people that supports the BNP just because they are the BNP, I don't defend every action. I support them because at the moment they're the only party that is saying the right things and more importantly they are the only party that means what they say and say what they mean that is why they are demonised by the other parties so much, who say one thing but do another.

Alot companies have wrongfully dismissed at some point, so what?

As for you and the EHRC -colour me amazed

[eddrebrab]

@RoyalistNationalist&DLandonCo­le Hang on, are you chaps talking about the EHRC or the ECtHR? From the comments and context I'd have to assume the former, but the acronyms are somewhat inconsistent.

[DLandonCole]

@eddrebrab I'm talking about the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.

[RoyalistNationalist]

@eddrebrab

Aye, EHRC, I probably get them jumbled up sometimes when typing.

[RoyalistNationalist]

I know how this ends up so I'll be brief:

Election analysis: watch?v=9Lj_N-J_Euc

That's accurate, not some hysterical rantings by some Communists in Searchlight.

As for those who don't agree with me -most of them are in favour of multiciulturalism, membership of the EU, militant Gay rights, do not want criticism of Islam etc. Sorry, that is far-left. The political spectrum has changed over the years, the left have got more lefty and the right-wing are no longer right-wing (Cameron and co)

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist Is this a response to me where I called you out for lying about the election results and claiming that the BNP had come second in share of the vote?

[RoyalistNationalist]

@DLandonCole

I didn't mean share of the total vote I meant how much of the vote was theirs proportional to their previous election result.

They also trounced UKIP in almost all of the constituencies they participated in. It is all in that video I linked. There is another video somewhere with Nick saying something to the affect of coming second only to the Tories but I forget in what capacity and I am not sure where to start in regards to looking for that video.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist Fine, but what that is categorically not what you said below.

[RoyalistNationalist]

@DLandonCole

By the way, can you answer my earlier question (apologies if you already have, I can't find it though):

Which BNP policies do you find "revolting"? Not which you disagree with but which policies you actually believe are revolting.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist I may do in a video in time.

[TricycleTim]

Great stuff - thanks for the video. Note to any impartial readers: see how Landon constructs an intelligent analysis, and then compare this with the hyperbolic, unsubstantiated, comments of RoyalistNationalist. You decide who has more brains, but I think the evidence is clear ...

[TricycleTim]

I'd also like to refer readers to research done my Dr Matthew Goodwin of Manchester University who talks about the BNP vote hitting a 'glass ceiling', and how they are failing to make any inroads into the demographics (young, reasonably educated, etc.) they would require to do so in order to achieve any sort of meaningful power. So, with financial probelms and in-fighting aswell, I don't see much of a future for the BNP beyond being a fringe lobby group. Despite what their supports think!

[TricycleTim]

To try and shed some light on the stats. The BNP General election results are:

2001 33 BNP candidates 47,129 votes 1428 votes per candidate

2005 119 BNP candidates 192,745 votes 1619 votes per candidate

2010 338 BNP candidates 563,743 votes 1667 votes per candidate

So, we have a large increase in the BNP vote, but this is largely explained by fielding more candidates. The increase in votes/per seat between 2005 and 2010 is tiny. The BNP have lost several local councillors in 2010.

[DLandonCole]

@GrudgyDiablo Hope so!

[Anghellik9]

Awesome summary of the actions.

A drawn out, incompetent incarnation of the night of the long knives.

[DLandonCole]

@Anghellik9 Exactly :)

[Anghellik9]

@DLandonCole Albeit with less physical purging

[JBradshawful]

Glad you're feeling better DLandon! 

[DLandonCole]

@JBradshawful Nearly there - thankyou!

[NaMgKCa]

Very good video. terrible joke.

[DLandonCole]

@NaMgKCa I know, I know... I couldn't resist it!

[HeavyTrafficAhead]

Oh don't worry Landon, they'll be back. At least you Brits will get a break while they go through their 'rebuilding phase'.

[andymort]

Here's hoping for more things to divide the voter base...!

[BNPCrusade]

lmao @ this brainwashed fat piece of shit.

You freaks can't stop the BNP.

[NaMgKCa]

@BNPCrusade We'll just wait and see the inevitable defeat of the BNP at the next EU Election, tbh.

[nvwho]

@BNPCrusade

The BN..who? Oh yeah them racist who were deluded enough to think they were gonna be accepted by the political mainstream.

It was a laugh watching the election results after you spamming with your 1 trillion accounts trying to make them more popular than they were.Thumbing up and down videos on youtube don't get election results.Its all very well your videos had 20'000 views in a few days but when its you and a handful of trolls hitting the reload for a day or 2 it means nothing.

[43group]

@BNPCrusade

"You freaks can't stop the BNP."

We already have.

Where are you now?

Oh yeah insulting people on youtube who don't agree with your racist crap.

Do you actually have an opinion or are you all big mouth with nothing but shit pouring from it?It's easy to insult people but it seems it's too difficult for you to even defend your disgusting views on society

[amberience]

@BNPCrusade ahahahahaha. We're doing a pretty good job! You're so insignificant that it's hardly worth replying to you! ahahaha. I really hope everything you hold dear is eradicated in the next millenia. Bring on sharia law, ahahahahahahahhaah.

Bellend.

[DLandonCole]

@BNPCrusade You know, I am fat. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Oh, and we did stop the BNP in Barking. 51-0.

[bimblinghill]

I once had the misfortune to have a BNP supporter sit next to me (I was eating, so something of a captive audience). I'm normally a pretty easygoing person & can have polite political discussions with most people, but it pretty soon degenerated into him threatening to stab me, so I was forced to leg it. I can't say that I found his behaviour surprising.

[imr22]

I just wish these people would die off, i thought they were dying off as society progressed but they just seem to go into hiding. I would love to think my generation, in their 20's would be less like this but actually it seems all to common.

Hating someone for their race, how utterly and completely stupid.

[DLandonCole]

@imr22 I'm afraid so - and look at people like MarmiteMan4.

[gingergreek]

It's exactly what happened to the *grits teeth* NF LOL

I've had my fair run ins with NF wannabes and has beens when I was a teen so it gives me great pleasure to see this round of idiots deteriorate.

[RoyalistNationalist]

Continued...however Searchlight/UAF/Hope not Hate etc are the prime culprits for taking these internal adjustments and squabbles and blowing them up into monstrous 'the party is doooomed' disasters.

Lastly, which policies of the BNP do you genuinely find "disgusting"? Not which ones you disagree with but which ones you actually find revolting? Honesty here please, though it may be asking too much.

[plevyman]

@RoyalistNationalist A BNP supporter comparing other people to nazis. The word ironic doesn't begin to cover it.

[RoyalistNationalist]

@plevyman

I would define myself as a nationalist more akin to Churchill than the Nazis, which were socialists.

[plevyman]

@RoyalistNationalist Funny that, the nazis were socialists who took the first opportunity to ban the socialist and communist parties from the parliament, sent all the trade unionists to Dachau and enacted industrial policies that favoured their corporate backers like BMW. Funny type of socialism, that.

You can define yourself however you like, it doesn't stop the BNP from being a fascist party, and your comparison of others to Goebbels from being astonishing hypocrisy.

[RoyalistNationalist]

@plevyman

The Nationalist Socialists were one type of socialists, while the Communists were another. The main difference between them were the methods about how they wished to achieve their goals, which ultimately were very similar.

And I didn't compare anyone to Goebbels, I gave an analogy. I said if you go to Searchlight for info on the BNP it would be like going to Goebbels for info on the Jews. I never compared anyone to Goebells.

[bimblinghill]

@RoyalistNationalist The Nazis only used the word 'socialist' as was a popular buzz word at the time. It was about as accurately used as 'democratic' in 'The Democratic People's Republic of Korea'.

[RoyalistNationalist]

@bimblinghill

Think of their actual objectives though, democracy gone, centralisation of a massive government, little more than a dictatorship, supression of free speech and corresponding liberties, spread their idealogy over the world etc.

The only real difference (and this has been proven with documentation at the time, if you listen to Alan Watt) is the methodology, not the ideology. The Nazis wished to do it by force, the Communists through stealth and deception.

[bimblinghill]

@RoyalistNationalist Communism =/= Socialism. How much of your comment applies to the social democracies of Scandinavia?

[RoyalistNationalist]

@bimblinghill

I agree that Communism is the most dominant form of socialism and well-known, but in reality the principles of socialism are more varied than that.

Michael Savage is a traditional conservative who also happens to be a Jew. Yet he recognises that Hitler was a Socialist. It seems to me that only the Left like to deny this fact because they wish to push the Nationalist Socialist Party into the right-wing arena and use it to demonise any other right-wingers.

[bimblinghill]

@RoyalistNationalist Communism is not 'the most dominant form of socialism'. Only a handful of countries in the world even claim to be communist & most of them aren't.. rather they are tyrannies of one form or another. Same applies to historic examples. You seem to have minimal understanding of the meaning of political left and right. Hitler was a socialist to the same degree as he was an atheist. Look at the Wiki page on socialism & come back to me with examples of what applies to the Nazis.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist I would tend to say that most socialists don't follow a neo-Hegelian dialect in their weltschauung where communists and fascists do.

[plevyman]

@RoyalistNationalist You aren't fooling anyone. Just casually bringing up Goebbels by way of analogy *is* comparing someone to Goebbels, and you know it.

As for your repeated claim that the nazis were socialist, well I don't expect any better from a supporter of the BNP, but you are just talking rubbish. Socialism means different things to different people but public ownership of important industries or services is a fairly universal characteristic. The nazis privatised like crazy.

[nvwho]

@plevyman

royalnationalist is trying to plant the seeds of lies to the people.Its the new thing for the BNP and other high profile racist party's in Europe.They want to rewrite history by making the future world think it was Hitler the left winger who did it.A pretty crap attempt at trying to make the extreme right look good in History.vlammas block in Belgium Jobbik in Hungary are a few right wing political party's who lie about the it.

[lostwisdom100]

@plevyman Hitler becam a National Capitalist after the Knight of the Long Knives. But still it was a better system than the one we have in Britain now.

[plevyman]

@lostwisdom100 I've got criticisms of modern-day Britain but at least Jews, gypsies, gays and the disabled aren't being sent to death camps.

[lostwisdom100]

@plevyman That never happend.

[plevyman]

@lostwisdom100 You're a lunatic.

[lostwisdom100]

@plevyman 1. Are you a Jew or any of those other groups? If not then you are being empathetic.

Empathy is weakness.

[plevyman]

@lostwisdom100 Refusal to accept reality is weakness.

And I'm not particularly impressed by the rather pathetic attempt to use Nietzsche to justify your evidently deluded views.

I would have said you must be a wind-up, but I looked at your page. Apparently you're not a wind-up, just a moron with a capacity to deny vast amounts of solid historical evidence.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist I might make a video on the last point.

Could you explain to me how the first sentence can possibly make sense? It isn't Searchlight, Hope not Hate or UAF who have expelled people from the BNP, set up the BNP's election procedures, set up the BNP Reform Group and now the British Freedom Party.

[RoyalistNationalist]

As to 'troubles in the BNP' - yes, there may well be. The BNP has transformed itself from the street-bully style tactics it used to employ in the 80s to the politics of present day. Of course some people are going to find it hard to adjust and some will not want to. The BNP has also undergone changes internally with how it operates since the election because of the Obama-style election tactics Labour used to thrash everyone in London boroughs. Continued below....

[RoyalistNationalist]

Continued....however as you seem to be in favour of women shortlists, and presumably are a supporter of affirmative action (i.e. balancing the so-called 'inequality' and discrimination by discriminating against the majority), I doubt the EHCR questionable activies are deemed wrongful in your eyes.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist Funny as this may seem to you, I didn't think setting up the ECHR was a good idea - I preferred the previous set up.

[RoyalistNationalist]

Thirdly the EHCR is a highly controversial organisation not solely from a BNP perspective but from a traditional Conservative (not Camerons lefty crones) perspective as well. Its job is not to find genuine racism and discrimination but to simply act as a Government front that enforces their Politically Correct far-left agenda.

Also their activities with the BNP are not equality-driven but are politcally driven. They are trying to bankrupt the BNP with continual court-cases and bleed them dry.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist Love it. Anyone who doesn't agree with you, including the centre-right party, is far-left.

Could you explain to me how the people opposed to the BNP managed to get the BNP being done for wrongful dismissal by a former employee, Michaela Mackenzie?

[TricycleTim]

@DLandonCole A BNP supporter to apologise for telling lies? I think you'll find that pigsare more likely to fly. You cannot even get Griffin to apologise for being a holocaust denier.

[RoyalistNationalist]

Secondly the last election was bad for all minor parties. Even the Lib Dems were disappointed. The current system is highly favourable to the two dominant parties. UKIP and the Greens were disappointed too, it is just a stroke of luck that the Greens managed to get an MP over the border. But on a stat-level basis the BNP didn't do that bad, second only to the Conservatives in terms of overal vote and vote increase. I can send you a link to a BNP election analysis if you like.

[DLandonCole]

@RoyalistNationalist That is a lie. The BNP categorically did not come second to the Conservatives in terms of overall vote. The BNP had 563,743 votes. Ahead of them were the Conservatives (10,703,754), Labour (8,609,527), Lib Dems (6,836,824) and UKIP (920,334). By comparison, the SNP had 491,386 votes, despite only running in 59 seats, as opposed to the BNP's 338. Check the figures and then I expect a comment from you withdrawing your earlier comment.

[RoyalistNationalist]

As tedious as the deed may sound I actually watched the entire video. (!)

I was not surprised to discover that it is full of half-truths at best and utter falsehoods at the worst. Where to start...

Firstly Searchlight and 'Hope not Hate' are about the worst sources to go to for accurate information on the BNP. There is nothing impartial and objective about them, they absolutely hate the BNP. Going to them is tantamount to going to Goebbels for accurate info on the Jews.

[eirefrance]

Will Pat Condell rescind his endorsement now?

[DLandonCole]

@eirefrance Don't think he ever endorsed the BNP - he endorsed UKIP.

[eirefrance]

@DLandonCole Oh thats true. My very very bad.

[BrightonContrarian10]

I wonder what effect Griffins disastrous apearence on BBC question time will have had in acellerating this break up. I know it was some time ago now but there was a lot of talk following that of a loss of trust in Griffin.The total fool he was shown to be when given that platform showed a lot particurly to the no platform crowd (those who weren't rioting outside)

[DLandonCole]

@BrightonContrarian10 I'm not so sure it was disastrous, tbh. He screwed it up afterwards in other ways and didn't capitalise on it, but the main story is that he was on QT - lots of people are aware of it but don't watch it. The other thing is that to BNP voters, it probably looked like the establishment rounding on him, thus feeding into his narrative.

[ConsciousAtoms]

Does the British Freedom Party have links with our (i.e., Dutch) PVV? I only base this on the name, because PVV stands for Partij Voor de Vrijheid, which literally means Party For Freedom.

Tellingly, they never talk about whose freedom... I share you opinion on this kind of party.

[DLandonCole]

@ConsciousAtoms I think the PVV is much closer to UKIP than the BNP.

[PrimusInterInpares]

How did you manage to get Sven Nykvist to shoot your video?

[DLandonCole]

@PrimusInterInpares I didn't - halogen lamp on the top setting at ninety degrees to the camera and then put into greyscale and upped the contrast in Kdenlive.

[OrbitPrime]

Where I used to live, they used to say that they didn't like the BNP because Nick Griffin was a big oaf who shouldn't run the country. I set out on a mission to intentionally pretend to like the BNP in order for people to have to research into there policies and history in order to have any argument against me. It actually worked which surprised me. I hope to God they go bankrupt, they have no place in our western world.

[mastaODI56]

some black people have actually had ancestors that been in britain longer then the ancestors of some bnp members

[LatumWay]

Am I right in saying that a split in the party would also lead to a dilution of nationalist politics in the UK as well? Especially with the first past the post system of elections, having to vote for one party over the other will desperse nationalist votes into several smaller, weaker parties, instead of one larger one that could actually gain momentum. Does that make sense?

[DLandonCole]

@LatumWay Yes and yes :)

[LatumWay]

@DLandonCole Yay.

[colourmegone]

Anybody stupid enough to give the BNP credit gets exactly what they deserve.

Surely the fragmentation of the far right in the UK is good news. So far as their resorting to violence and intimidation, at least they'll no longer be able to hide behind a phoney legitimacy.

Unfortunately there are a lot of people in the market for the kind of comforting simplicity the BNP peddles. If the economy doesn't improve and the cuts start to bite the far right could have a resugence in the next elections.

[philateliceun]

i amstarting to think that splitting is a inevitable thing within populist parties. You saw it in the LPF here, now somewhat in the PVV. Too many people join such parties with their own ideals, their own vision of the world while being fueled by fear and then mix in some ego and you get a disaster.

[DLandonCole]

@philateliceun They do sometimes end up being like the far left, but in this case I think it's a leadership issue.

[TheProf1988]

I enjoy spouting my defiance at some of the policies and attitudes of the three major English parties, and many young people I know also relish in this defiance.

What gets me annoyed is that some of them call their allegience to either the BNP or UKIP in order to demonstrate this defiance. I love watching them shifting their feet when I actually inform them of both of these parties track histories :D

[davidalong3]

@TheProf1988

I know, it's great. I remember the look on one of my friend's face when I told him that UKIP is antidisestablishmentarian (they support closer ties between the CoE and the State) after he'd spent weeks bigging them up. He's an atheist and all.

[TheUnillogical]

Anything that makes the BNP's day a little bit worse is good news!

[vinewalker]

what about mark collett? i heard little bits about him being arrested or something after a leadership challenge.... but i couldnt find much information on it?

[DLandonCole]

@vinewalker I think he was done for conspiracy to commit some sort of violence against Griffin. Not sure.

[eddrebrab]

If you wanted to join the BNP you'd have to really hate the immigrants. I do! Oh yeah? How much? A lot. Right, you're in. Listen, the only people we hate more than the immigrants are the fucking BFP! Splitters! And the NBP! Splitters! And the BNP! Splitters! ... Nice analogy Mr Cole. Let's hope it materialises.

[DLandonCole]

@eddrebrab LOL!

[echoesoftruth]

Ooh... I will be following this with interest.

[LiamE69]

Diddums. The poor BNP. My heart bleeds.

[DackIsBack]

LOL.... They where forced to change the rules so a non-white person could join?

*facepalm*

So how many black muslims have signed up so far?

[DLandonCole]

@DackIsBack I'm sure at least one Sikh has joined.

[DeeDemonwitch]

@DLandonCole yes, a Sikh who apparently has a very strong dislike for Islam.

operationblackvote[dot]wordpre­ss[dot]com/2010/02/16/bnp-sikh­-faces-excommunication/

[MagnusNielsenBewick]

All political parties in the UK are in financial difficulties and riven with challenges for leadership. This is part of political life. What is worrying is the gulf which is growing between the electorate and the organisations which represent them. If the BNP collapses, it will be reincarnated in some other form. It is the price of living in a democracy, that you have political parties whose policies are distasteful to majority opinion. A fact of poliitcal life, I'm afraid.

[DLandonCole]

@MagnusNielsenBewick Well, they're certainly not in a good financial position, but riven with challenges for leadership? I don't see threats to Cameron, Clegg or Miliband at the moment.

I agree with you on the last sentiment, but you'll permit me a smile if they make life harder for themselves.

[nsahahaha]

It's no coincidence that the EDL emerged jst as the BNP started to fall.It's all part of Griffins master plan ....that is failing.Anyone else noticed wherever the EDL go the BNP are there a week or two later trying to exploit the situation.

[johncrwarner]

It is often the case that a political party which fails at an election turns on itself - and when the politics are extreme and the structure of party is totalitarian so process of turning on themselves is much more bloody.

Didn't the BNP emerge from the National Front in the 1970s and 1980s over "ideological" and leadership issues?

[DLandonCole]

@johncrwarner Yes, although I think there were more actual issues then over the direction the NF should have taken whereas this is a reaction to style of leadership, as I see it.

[johncrwarner]

@DLandonCole

If I remember rightly because these parties have a top-down model of leadership. The leader decides and the party does so to speak - even ideological differences are cast in the form of contending leadership candidates and personal attacks.

[MrUnscientific]

Not surprising seeing as a number of BNP fringe supporters now have somewhat of a voice in parliament through the Tories. The mindless flag waving foot soldiers who insist on selling themselves down the river now feel much less slighted I would think.

My initial reaction was to imagine a more extreme movement then breaking from the BNP and they then drifting back toward lower league football terraces and sitting rooms, the suit wearing ones amalgamating into the Tories to a lesser degree.

[DLandonCole]

@MrUnscientific I don't think the hard core would go for the Tories now, although I can see some of the less politically educated supporters voting for them. More likely they'll cluster around the EDL or UKIP.

[MrUnscientific]

@DLandonCole I see. I know very little of them. I find it difficult to be interested

I did have a run in with leaflet distributors outside Asda in Swanley, a BNP stronghold. I refused the leaflet and said "you should be ashamed" and "what's the matter with you"... to which his reply was to go red in the face and reply "ok then fine". I later came out of asda to find more in his group. I expected a confrontation, but no eye contact was made. I am over 6ft well built with a shaved head though :-)

[pinochet222]

just out of curiosity, does anybody blame the jews for the infighting inside the bnp?

[painterQjensen]

I hope itll spread to denmark

[SleepNeed]

Even as a Yank, I hope this schism consumes and kills their disgusting group once and for all (and take the ones here stateside out with them. I doubt it but one can hope...)

[LordCustos3]

7:20

>"BNP Reform...."

The best way to reform the BNP involves a flamethrower,

[DLandonCole]

@LordCustos3 I've also heard it said that sunlight is the best disinfectant...

[TheAtheistPaladin]

May they hemorrhage to death from the split.

[DLandonCole]

@TheAtheistPaladin Amen to that!

[Obasiliasfilosofos]

Old nationalism aka Ultra-nationalism is obscene and inhuman....

I consider myself a liberal Nationalist, I believe nation is formed from common values and shared cultural heritage, Race would be completely Irrelevant if not for human inclination to favor those who are more outwardly most like ourselves, Just like how we are biased to outward beauty...

[reashot]

@Obasiliasfilosofos hello fellow comrade

[DLandonCole]

@Obasiliasfilosofos While there's obviously a difference between your liberal nationalism and the nationalism of groups like the BNP, I don't have much time for the former and I don't have any time for the latter.

[Vogter2100]

This happened to our first of this kind of party but the outbreakers are now in parliment and are the supprot that gives our rigth wing gvt majoroty to do whatever they like. Go see my 'nasty insight in danish politics' video from a few days ago to see what they get away with. I hope this doesnt happen to UK.

[empacae]

Ah for those ousted ex members they can start the

Braitain Peoples Front and the the National Peoples Front of Britain or the National Front of Britain... Fucking Splittahs!

And for the rest they can gel into UKIP.

Or we could just ignore them and let them die.

But they'll always be those that huddle together and murmer back and forth, "They took our jobs."

[00maharum00ma]

It's funny how a fascist party can't get it's members to fall in line behind their leadership. This is rather hopeful, in a way. If they can't get a bunch of ignorant chavs to submit to their authority, they'll never be able to force their authority on the general public.

[DLandonCole]

@00maharum00ma Well, a lot of it is Griffin's heavy-handedness.

[whistlingdust]

Thanks for the overview. Good stuff here, as always.

[DLandonCole]

@whistlingdust Thanks!

[oojamaflipper]

oh happy daaaay! : D

well, almost.. no doubt its splinter cells will continue, but if they are reduced in stature, that can only be a good thing.

[DLandonCole]

@oojamaflipper I am slightly concerned that a big chunk will move across to the EDL, but politically it will damage the BNP tendency.

[skinnywhop87]

Wow anyone who would work with David Duke should never be taken seriously.

David Duke and people like him are the lowest form of scum. It's funny too, he's trying e-beg for money for a presidential run in 2012

[DLandonCole]

@skinnywhop87 There's a clip of Nick Griffin speaking on a platform with David Duke on YouTube. It's well worth watching.

[paradoarify]

SPLITTAH.