My grandpa used to talk about something he called crazy 38s. He'd stuff the extra space in a 38 casing with grits and he claimed it would make some "super 38" on the claim the grits worked as a wadding somehow pushing better. I was thinking about it and it seemed once that extra space for a pressure buildup is taken away the bullet would wind up leaving the casing with alot less force than if it were just left with a gap. Anybody have any input?
@bjow324 first are you looking for home protection or concealed carry because for the home the best option would be a 12 gauge pump action shotgun or if you dont want a long gun get a Taurus judge and put some .410 buckshot in there but for a concealed i would go with a 38 special revolver or a small 9mm semiauto
@bjow324 I'd definitely go with the 357 out of the two. I saw someone replied and told you to get a 38 but even if you do decide that id still get the 357 and load it with 38s. that way you have some versatility with the same gun if you do decide to step up.
we always load up .38 special and then make it so the last shot is .357 as a joke for our buddies. (its a plenty safe gag and having the .357 last removes the danger of them bumping of two even though thats not going to happen ever)
Thanks a TON for the videos!!! I was looking at a 44sp and was wondering about the difference between it and the 44mag. Definitely going with the magnum after seeing this! Your videos are the BEST!!
An interesting "Magnum" case is the 7.62x25mm Tokarev and the 7.63x25mm Mauser pistol rounds. They were so close in case specs that Russian soldiers would sometimes load their SMGs with captured German 7.63 Mauser, and their firearms functioned fine. When the Germans tried to fire 7.62 Tok out of their machine pistols, their guns would quickly fail. Reason being that while externally identical, the 7.62 Tok develops much higher pressures than 7.63 Mauser, and was basically loaded to +P++++++.
hey good vid man...i want to get a ruger super redhawk .44 magnum just to shoot the .44 specials out of....i shot a .44 magnum and didn't like the recoil on it..maybe it was the gun or me not holding it right.
Not to sound stupid but seriously until this video I always thought that a 38 special was a magnum round for the 38. Oh well But now I know for sure that I will go out and buy a .357 revolver. I'm just up in the air between the Taurus and the S&W. Price doesn't matter but its a quality matter. I have heard good and bad about both. What would you suggest Hickok45?
@ChishioAme The rugers are too small for my hands, great guns don get me wrong I would own one if I could but any custom grip to fit my hand makes them just feel to strange. I dont want a firearm that I dont feel comfortable with.
@WeThePeople2020 Gotcha. I know the feeling; I used to really want the FN Five-Seven. Then I held one at a gun show and the grip was just too wide for me.
@WeThePeople2020 A Ruger GP-100 or Sp101.357 is built better...but you can't go wrong with a S&W 686 either. a Taurus 605 is "ok" for the money but you said quality...so Taurus should be your last choice!!!
we didnt get to see the .38 special cartridge lol..what brand andmodel is the revolver on the bottom row to the far right? and a estimate on the retail,im in love with that revolver
Ive always wondered this and maybe you (or one of the subscribers) know the answer (or may have already explained it in a video) Why do they call it a .357 magnum when it is a 38 caliber round?
... by the way, thx hickok45 for another very informative video. Also liked the one on gas operated riffles. Im not experienced with firearms, basically knew what its about but that video, as all of them, was very good. Which cartridge works best against the zombies ?
nice vid - i have one question, as a total noob at guns. why are they called the 38 and 357? I guess its bullet width in the Imperial measuring system, but they are the same bullets just a little longer/shorter. So if it refers to length isnt 357 shorter than 38?
No doubt I am very stupid but would be grateful if someone could explain thanks
@xzombielvisx (I'm not 100% sure but...) The numbers refer to the bullet diameter, not cartridge length. They fire from a cartridge of the same diameter.
@xzombielvisx A great question. The answer is just naming conventions. You will see that a LOT in different calibers as you get more into guns. .22 is actually something like .224 as is .223Rem and such.
@xzombielvisx Was wondering about that too. Look up "heeled bullet" on wikipedia for details on changes in cartridge design that lead to this. Basically design of cartridges changed at one point in history and this lead to the bullet diameter being reduced but they kept the old designation.
@crockett616 Thanks for the info, was interesting.
A .38 caliber firearm actually shoots bullets of diameter .357 inches, the name of the caliber derives from older heeled-bullet designs, and the name was kept even when the bullet was shrunk to fit inside the case. The .38 S&W cartridge, dates to 1877 and has a nominal outside case diameter of .380 inches, while the inside of the case is .357 inches.
hello, i've been watching your videos lately and i like them a lot. Can you please make one about your gun collection? i'd like to see how many you have. thanks
@fishblade2 -If you are still asking the question, then yes; a .357 Magnum pistol can absolutely shoot a .38 Special +P round, as the +P stands for slightly more gunpowder (+P = +Power), if I'm not mistaken, and the .357 Magnum round is the same exact thing as the .38 Special round except the .357 Magnum round has Considerably more gunpowder. Now, if you're asking whether or not a .38 Special pistol can shoot a .38 Special +P round is different. The two biggest factors in whether or not -NEXT-
@fishblade2 --CONTINUE- a .38 Special pistol can shoot a .38 Special P, +P or even +P+ round safely are: when the pistol was made and what frame the pistol is -So to be completely safe and make sure you aren't putting too much stress on said .38 Special pistol, it's best to ask the company that manufactures the firearm or a professional gunsmith.
Please, somebody correct me if I am wrong about any of this.
Hickok, I was always told that the 9mm had more stopping power than the .38 special... Is there any truth to this? The .38 seems much larger (length wise) vs. the 9mm and could never understand how that is possible.
@speeedracerr. The reason 9mm Luger/Auto/Parabellum is more powerful than .38 Special in factory loads is simple. 9mm operates at 35K PSI up to 38K in +P and the .38Spc operates 17K and +P at 18.5K. .357Mag on the other hand operates at 35K and with it's larger case capacity and using slower burning powders result in a round the 9mm can never match. This is the beauty of a.357 revolver.
@QuantumKoala Wow!!! Thats great information! I currently have a .38 which I utilize for CCW. Now Im wondering if the .38 is sufficient enough stopping power for personal defense. Might have to pick up a snubbie .357 or 9mm hmmm... Thanks for the reply ;) Have a fun and safe 4th of July.
@speeedracerr. Like to help when possible. The .357 was invented to help law enforcement with a problem they had back in the 30s. That problem was the insufficient penetrating ability of the .38 spc on car doors. Today not so much as the gauge of sheet metal used today is much thinner. Use some +P for your .38, unless you are worried about shooting through barriers it will do the job. Get a box of good JHP rounds. Shot placement and abilty to strike vital organs is more important than 9 vs 38.
@hickok45 I do, big 10mm fan. Sorry for repeating what has already been said. Not much of a youtuber and I don't bother reading other's comments. Keep up the good work.
@remmy8700 Actually the difference in cases is negligible. How they engage the mechanics of the semi-auto pistol is what makes the huge difference between them. Semi-autos headspace on the mouth of the cartridge not the rim so a .40 would seat too deep for the extractor to engage the rim in a 10mm. However all bets are off if you have a S&W 610. It's chambered for 10mm but uses moon clips and will effectively chamber the .40 rounds in a direct comparison to the .38/.357 - .44spl/.44mag.
Even though I consider myself an experienced shooter, you make great videos that I plan on showing my girlfriend. She is interested in buying guns and I will help her in shopping but I will send her to your videos to learn the basics that I just don't feel like teaching.
The annotation at 8:51ish "All the bullets are 38 caliber weather they are .357 or 38 special." Shouldn't that be All the bullets are .357 caliber instead of .38, seeing as the .38 in .38 special describes the approximate diameter of a loaded case.
so special is just a shorter and lighter load and a magnum round is a little linger and mor powder......i know about guns but little things i dont wanna seem stupid to ask but good job it helped me out alot keep up the good work
ok. I have a question and maybe its been asnwered before and I just missed it, Is there a Mrs. Hickok? And another question, Do a lot of your students subscribe to your channel?
The cases of the 10mm are thicker and also use large pistol primers. The .40 use small pistol primers. There is a difference, a .40 isn't a short 10mm. Just as 7.62x 51 isn't .308 Win. The revolver can shoot the shorter specials as it headspaces off of it's rim. An auto-pistol spaces off of the case. Do not shoot .40s out of a 10mm. Eventually it will create a problem and if you like your 10mm pistol in one piece. It is not advised as Mr. Hickok states.
@remmy8700. That is not what headspacing is and the fact that the extractor will not allow the round to space properly is the ticking time bomb. The is no forcing cone to minimize potential lodging or flash gap that will allow excessive pressure from that improper fit to relieve the potential spike in pressure. The case mouth must space off of the chamber not the extractor. If you were to modify properly you will replace the springs and the barrel to .40.
Excellent instructional video with equally excellent speaking ability :)
I'd sure love to have his collection of handguns! There was a time in my younger days when I had loads of great handguns, many of which pictured here. But not all of us have fared so well in the game of life, and like many, have had to sell nearly everything with the exception of a select *few*.
Wish I had a nice range like this one though, as I never get to actually use mine anymore :(
Thanks a lot for doing these videos, I learn a lot from you, and really enjoy watching them. And even though we all know how much you hate to shoot your guns, I appreciate you doing it anyway! ;-)
Interesting, I had not considered the origin of the term magnum as it refers to a firearm cartridge or handgun.
MAGNUM - 1788, "bottle containing two quarts of wine or spirits," from L. magnum , neut. of magnus "great". Registered 1935 by Smith & Wesson Inc., of Springfield, Mass., as the name of a powerful type of handgun.
I'm curious my father has a gun that was his stepfather's and it has Secret Service Special on the barrel and SSS on the handle, it is a 38 revolver. His Stepfather was a Police Officer for over 50 years, but were not sure if he was in the Secret Service, is this a purchasable gun?
@Merc4Lyfe1 Higher chamber pressure and therefore they should only be chambered in firearms made to handle that pressure. But yes, the power is greater in the +p rounds.
I am new to all of this and love your videos!! My dumb question for today is there a 38 and a 38 special or is there just 38 specials? Also is there a 44 and 44 special or are they all 44 specials? When I am talking about a 38 to an experienced gun guy does he automatically assume that I am referring to a 38 special?
When dealing with a 2" barrel, is there a benefit to using the .357magnum? I've heard you lose any potential benefit with a barrel that short and it just ends up being harder to shoot accurately.
Love hearing the ping of the metal when the bullet hits. Maybe you should set up different size gongs/metal plates and make yourself a Hickok45 music video. :-)
Why does the magnum round shoot lower than the special round? That seems counter-intuitive to me. Also, why is one a .357 and the other a .38 if they are both the same diameter round? Thanks for your videos.
When I was at the range the other day a guy was firing a .357 magnum. I totally underestimated its power. I knew it was a strong cartridge but when he fired that thing BAM my hearing protection didn't do so well with it, and i could feel the muzzle blast hitting my clothes when I was multiple feet away from him.
@flozbob666, Actually, they were not the first .38 or .44. They were longer, more powerful upgrades of earlier cartridges, so they were called "Special."
Haha I think it's so funny you put this video up, I was just thinking which should I buy? A 38 spl. or a 357 revolver. I click on your page and your home video is on the very topic! Great video thanks for the info.
your such a inspiration! hickok45 is the best channel :)
haha im wondering have you found lots of dead animals in the woods from all the stray bullets you fire? i would hate to be a rabbit running by your targets lol
What I can't figure out is why the magnum is shooting lower. It seems to me that it is going faster, so gravity would have less time to pull it down... So i'm really confused. So does the 357 shoot lower than the 38? does the 22 mag shoot lower than the 22 long rifle out of a pistol? Is this something that happens all the time, in all magnum pistols, or just for that particular gun?
@yodaofcoolness actually that is a common misconception. The weight of the bullet does not matter. Neither does velocity out of the barrel. Gravity (the y-direction) if you will, is completely independent of velocity (the x-direction). If you launch say a golfball from an m4 or ar-15 and you drop a water melon from the same altitude above the ground. They will both hit the ground at the same exact time.
@garzac7815 The velocity does matter and because of that mass does too. Yes gravity pulls things towards the earth at the same acceleration (ignoring wind resistance), but if it takes a projectile 2X as long to reach its target, that means gravity has 2X as long to pull it down.
@yodaofcoolness Yoda... one thing has nothing to do with the other. Acceleration in the x-direction has no effect on acceleration in the y-direction. Lok it up in a physics book chief. Also, you just agreed with me wholeheartedly... you just do not know enough physics to realize it. If gravity accelerates everything at 9.8(m/s/s) or 32.2 (ft/s/s), and the initial speed of the projectile is 0 in the y-direction, then the two projectiles will hit the ground at the same exact time. Look it up.
@yodaofcoolness, See my explanation below; the bullet is not in the barrel as long to be affected by recoil. There are other reasons, too, and it depends on the distance and gun.
@hickok45 That is very interesting and something I have never thought of before. I guess a shorter barrel would do that less. Thank you for the explanation.
@hickok45 Does the rifling of the barrel in a .357 make the bullet of a .38 shoot high? I understand that weight wise a .38 bullet and a .357 bullet can weigh the same, but a .357 may need a higher twist ratio in the barrel's rifling to stabilize better the bullet because it has more powder than a .38, hence being a hotter load.
@SuspectingCitizen I think the rifling has to do with the bullet length primarily so heavier bullets in the same caliber need more stabilization via faster twist rate. I don't think it affects how high or low you hit, but an unstable bullet may keyhole and be inaccurate. The hotter load will be in the barrel for less time and therefore be less affected by muzzle flip from recoil and hence shoot lower for the same point of aim.
@yodaofcoolness The point Hickok is trying to make about the time the bullet is in the firearm is good. In handguns, particularly revolvers where the line of bore sits above the hand so high is that recoil starts acting fairly quickly. The trick was matching front sight height to a load to counteract it.. SInce different loads have different impact points, you have an adjustable rear sight that takes the function of not only horizontal adjustment, but compensating for front sight height.
@TheFoundersWereRight So you are saying that it's an issue of Point-of-aim vs. Point-of-impact and the factor that in a revolver the grip is so low from the barrel allowing for a greater muzzle flip due to recoil? Now I'm lost! A .38, and we speak factory loads by ANSI/SAAMI standards, has less recoil than a .357, so how can it shoot higher according by what its being said?
@SuspectingCitizen It also travels slower. It has something to do with the ammount of time recoiling forces have to act on the position of the barrel while the bullet is in it. An example of this is with old Colt SSA Revolvers. Front sight height, since the rear sights were fixed, would be different on longer and shorter barreled versions. The load was the same, but the front sight height was matched to the barrel length to counteract the extra time the bullet stayed in the barrel.
@diverson2nd It's a good practice technique, I wouldn't do it for carry rounds, but at the range. I sometimes load up snap caps randomly in my magazines and test my self on the tap rack drill. It is equally effective on detecting flinching, but I don't see how it will stop you from flinching.
@Mrgrylls69 they shoot lower beause the traj. is flatter
heavyfootfull 5 hours ago in playlist Basics
im curious as to why hot loads pattern low? can anybody explain it to me?
MrGrylls69 8 hours ago
I absolutely love that 44 mag round. I dont like revolvers too much so I opted to buy the desert eagle in 44 mag : )
Oct8929 3 days ago
Very well explained video, Thank you
Jblaylock777 5 days ago
My grandpa used to talk about something he called crazy 38s. He'd stuff the extra space in a 38 casing with grits and he claimed it would make some "super 38" on the claim the grits worked as a wadding somehow pushing better. I was thinking about it and it seemed once that extra space for a pressure buildup is taken away the bullet would wind up leaving the casing with alot less force than if it were just left with a gap. Anybody have any input?
BigJT2010 1 week ago
Between the ,44 magnum and the .357 magnum which do you recommend for personal protection to someone that is new to guns?
bjow324 1 week ago
@bjow324 first are you looking for home protection or concealed carry because for the home the best option would be a 12 gauge pump action shotgun or if you dont want a long gun get a Taurus judge and put some .410 buckshot in there but for a concealed i would go with a 38 special revolver or a small 9mm semiauto
qqw52 1 week ago
@qqw52 Thanks for advice
bjow324 1 week ago
@bjow324 I'd definitely go with the 357 out of the two. I saw someone replied and told you to get a 38 but even if you do decide that id still get the 357 and load it with 38s. that way you have some versatility with the same gun if you do decide to step up.
BigJT2010 1 week ago
@BigJT2010 Thanks for the advice
bjow324 1 week ago
I never knew that the 10mm is just a long 40.
MrClayblasdel 1 week ago
we always load up .38 special and then make it so the last shot is .357 as a joke for our buddies. (its a plenty safe gag and having the .357 last removes the danger of them bumping of two even though thats not going to happen ever)
johnnyboy922 2 weeks ago
Thanks a TON for the videos!!! I was looking at a 44sp and was wondering about the difference between it and the 44mag. Definitely going with the magnum after seeing this! Your videos are the BEST!!
SimonBearSr02 3 weeks ago
Thank you for using proper firearms safety in your videos. Some of these youtube knuckle heads could learn a thing or two.
SMCironman 3 weeks ago 2
I reload 38spl and 44spl... easier to eject than the magnum cases. No other reason I guess. With mild loads no need to use the longer cases.
werre2 3 weeks ago
Team up with FPSRussia again:)
thesnipishark 1 month ago in playlist More videos from hickok45
magnum....power.....let's shoot it down!
wackyworldvideos34 1 month ago
Great video!! i was wondering witch cartridge has more power .38 special or 9 mm? both with or without +p.
jiujitsukh 1 month ago
@jiujitsukh .38 special
glockman96 1 month ago
Great video! Thanks.
mkalevv 1 month ago
i expected a boring video
but this one ROCKS
drissisays 1 month ago
An interesting "Magnum" case is the 7.62x25mm Tokarev and the 7.63x25mm Mauser pistol rounds. They were so close in case specs that Russian soldiers would sometimes load their SMGs with captured German 7.63 Mauser, and their firearms functioned fine. When the Germans tried to fire 7.62 Tok out of their machine pistols, their guns would quickly fail. Reason being that while externally identical, the 7.62 Tok develops much higher pressures than 7.63 Mauser, and was basically loaded to +P++++++.
mrb692 1 month ago
GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!
CHIPZ711500 1 month ago
to bad I live in norway. cool video
MegaAtrax 1 month ago
@MegaAtrax move to america :)
leslyclaypoolio 1 month ago
@leslyclaypoolio i am only 15 :(
MegaAtrax 1 month ago
@MegaAtrax that's not so bad.......in three more year's you can move here!
leslyclaypoolio 1 month ago
AWESOME VIDEO. Explained well. Thanks!
ThatRebel17 1 month ago
hey good vid man...i want to get a ruger super redhawk .44 magnum just to shoot the .44 specials out of....i shot a .44 magnum and didn't like the recoil on it..maybe it was the gun or me not holding it right.
therealsosa0081 2 months ago
One day.....the simple words "Hickok45 here" will be as famous as "Here's Johnny!"
Univermag 2 months ago 17
I have wondered if I could shoot 44 specials out of my magnum . Now I know thanks very informational !
Butchered35 3 months ago
This helped me out a lot! Thank you!
greeksta59 3 months ago
Wait, the .357 isn't smaller than the .38? Ugh, I hate how caliber works sometimes.
ScopedPewPew 3 months ago
shake his hand! lol
KuduChomper 3 months ago
Not to sound stupid but seriously until this video I always thought that a 38 special was a magnum round for the 38. Oh well But now I know for sure that I will go out and buy a .357 revolver. I'm just up in the air between the Taurus and the S&W. Price doesn't matter but its a quality matter. I have heard good and bad about both. What would you suggest Hickok45?
WeThePeople2020 3 months ago
@WeThePeople2020 What about Ruger? They've got several good ones that are built like tanks.
ChishioAme 3 months ago
@ChishioAme The rugers are too small for my hands, great guns don get me wrong I would own one if I could but any custom grip to fit my hand makes them just feel to strange. I dont want a firearm that I dont feel comfortable with.
WeThePeople2020 3 months ago
@WeThePeople2020 Gotcha. I know the feeling; I used to really want the FN Five-Seven. Then I held one at a gun show and the grip was just too wide for me.
ChishioAme 3 months ago
@WeThePeople2020 A Ruger GP-100 or Sp101.357 is built better...but you can't go wrong with a S&W 686 either. a Taurus 605 is "ok" for the money but you said quality...so Taurus should be your last choice!!!
therealsosa0081 2 months ago
Cheers Hickok, very informative video.
LynerB525 3 months ago
how old are u
123brixjewcake 3 months ago
I'm currently looking at a S&W Model 28 highway patrolman 357 magnum.
TheSilas324 4 months ago
nice aiming
davaun1 4 months ago
Why isn't the .357 magnum called the 38 magnum like it is for the 44
6leggedcow 4 months ago
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StraightOutRuthless 4 months ago
we didnt get to see the .38 special cartridge lol..what brand andmodel is the revolver on the bottom row to the far right? and a estimate on the retail,im in love with that revolver
reynosamanA3 4 months ago
@reynosamanA3 , Better watch it again and pay closer attention. That's my .44 Magnum Model 29. We have several other videos with it.
hickok45 4 months ago 5
Hay thanks that helped a lot good job!
orgcrime4 4 months ago
hey great vid thanks for making that !!
greenmtboy1965 5 months ago
so why can't the .22lr cal shoot on .22 magnum firearms ?
supersquirrel4755 5 months ago
@supersquirrel4755 ...they can. They can't shoot in .22 magnum SEMI-AUTO's because they wouldn't fit in the magazine. :P
Speedogg138 5 months ago
@Speedogg138 Also the .22lr bullet will get lodged in the extra space, belive me i learned that 1 the hard way!
ChrisCorle01 4 months ago
Ive always wondered this and maybe you (or one of the subscribers) know the answer (or may have already explained it in a video) Why do they call it a .357 magnum when it is a 38 caliber round?
BUCKrub91 5 months ago
I want a S&W 624. I would like to shoot Hornady 180 gr JHP rounds.
556suppressor 5 months ago
This is a great video and way to learn about ammo types. Enjoyed watching it all, must watch for anyone looking to get in to the sport of shooting.
tubeyou997 5 months ago
... by the way, thx hickok45 for another very informative video. Also liked the one on gas operated riffles. Im not experienced with firearms, basically knew what its about but that video, as all of them, was very good. Which cartridge works best against the zombies ?
crockett616 5 months ago
@hickok45 What model and manufacturer is that stainless steel 357 magnum? and whats the price range??
DontTreadOnMe00 5 months ago
Will a .44 special stop a grizzly bear in it's tracks like a .44 magnum will, that's really the only reason i'm even looking at buying a .44
AVP830 5 months ago
nice vid - i have one question, as a total noob at guns. why are they called the 38 and 357? I guess its bullet width in the Imperial measuring system, but they are the same bullets just a little longer/shorter. So if it refers to length isnt 357 shorter than 38?
No doubt I am very stupid but would be grateful if someone could explain thanks
xzombielvisx 6 months ago
@xzombielvisx (I'm not 100% sure but...) The numbers refer to the bullet diameter, not cartridge length. They fire from a cartridge of the same diameter.
TaglessRussell 5 months ago
@xzombielvisx A great question. The answer is just naming conventions. You will see that a LOT in different calibers as you get more into guns. .22 is actually something like .224 as is .223Rem and such.
Speedogg138 5 months ago
@xzombielvisx Was wondering about that too. Look up "heeled bullet" on wikipedia for details on changes in cartridge design that lead to this. Basically design of cartridges changed at one point in history and this lead to the bullet diameter being reduced but they kept the old designation.
crockett616 5 months ago
@crockett616 Thanks for the info, was interesting.
A .38 caliber firearm actually shoots bullets of diameter .357 inches, the name of the caliber derives from older heeled-bullet designs, and the name was kept even when the bullet was shrunk to fit inside the case. The .38 S&W cartridge, dates to 1877 and has a nominal outside case diameter of .380 inches, while the inside of the case is .357 inches.
xzombielvisx 5 months ago
hickok45 what is the difference between a 45 auto and a 45 long colt
JtotheMAN0097 6 months ago
@JtotheMAN0097 45 Long colt is a much LONGER cartridge with a rim. Typically .45LC goes in revolvers and .45ACP (auto) goes into semi-auto handguns.
Speedogg138 5 months ago
weres the 500 magnum
awsometutarials2 6 months ago
i learned alot frrom this video thanks
Dayne121212 6 months ago 18
@Dayne121212 here learn some more, "alot" isnt a word, its "a lot"
shadowsteel5 1 month ago
How much guns do you have?!
TheUsmc29 6 months ago
Once again a very informative video, I am about to start reloading and am learning a lot from you sr, thank you very much.
fordboy85 6 months ago
can compete a revolver with an semi auto pistol?
wolfschanze92 7 months ago
Mr. Hickok, just AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
artymech 7 months ago
Awesome video I love revolvers! I have a public defender and a gp 100
brianm19 7 months ago
hello, i've been watching your videos lately and i like them a lot. Can you please make one about your gun collection? i'd like to see how many you have. thanks
vbandres 7 months ago
3 people got shot by revolvers
Nicholas1350 7 months ago
Just womdering >>> If the diameter is the same, why isn't the .357 mag called a .38 mag just like the .44 special and .44 mag ?
Coolrockndad 7 months ago
can a .357 shoot a .38 caliber plus P round as well?
fishblade2 7 months ago
@fishblade2 That would stand to reason.
mjmcg 7 months ago
@fishblade2 -I'm not a gun guru, but I don't see why not.
saints360row 7 months ago
@fishblade2 -If you are still asking the question, then yes; a .357 Magnum pistol can absolutely shoot a .38 Special +P round, as the +P stands for slightly more gunpowder (+P = +Power), if I'm not mistaken, and the .357 Magnum round is the same exact thing as the .38 Special round except the .357 Magnum round has Considerably more gunpowder. Now, if you're asking whether or not a .38 Special pistol can shoot a .38 Special +P round is different. The two biggest factors in whether or not -NEXT-
saints360row 5 months ago
@fishblade2 --CONTINUE- a .38 Special pistol can shoot a .38 Special P, +P or even +P+ round safely are: when the pistol was made and what frame the pistol is -So to be completely safe and make sure you aren't putting too much stress on said .38 Special pistol, it's best to ask the company that manufactures the firearm or a professional gunsmith.
Please, somebody correct me if I am wrong about any of this.
saints360row 5 months ago
I have the 38 special.
AbdulazizJam 7 months ago
awesome vid. I've been reading on different ammo types for about a year now and this is completely new to me.
TheQuasihippy 7 months ago
Is there such thing as just a .38? If so, can you shoot one out of a .357 magnum like a .38 special?
13collec 7 months ago
Great informative video!
speedbird125 7 months ago
ok 444 videos on the 4th of july, well done hickock
Heat907 7 months ago
Did You forget to include the .500 magnum and .500 special?
TACTICALCHICKENSTRIP 7 months ago
Wow. My heart can't take seeing all those beautiful revolvers all at once. Very nice selection of revolvers. Keep the videos coming. God bless.
williamfriggle 7 months ago
Hickok, I was always told that the 9mm had more stopping power than the .38 special... Is there any truth to this? The .38 seems much larger (length wise) vs. the 9mm and could never understand how that is possible.
speeedracerr 7 months ago
@speeedracerr. The reason 9mm Luger/Auto/Parabellum is more powerful than .38 Special in factory loads is simple. 9mm operates at 35K PSI up to 38K in +P and the .38Spc operates 17K and +P at 18.5K. .357Mag on the other hand operates at 35K and with it's larger case capacity and using slower burning powders result in a round the 9mm can never match. This is the beauty of a.357 revolver.
QuantumKoala 7 months ago
@QuantumKoala Wow!!! Thats great information! I currently have a .38 which I utilize for CCW. Now Im wondering if the .38 is sufficient enough stopping power for personal defense. Might have to pick up a snubbie .357 or 9mm hmmm... Thanks for the reply ;) Have a fun and safe 4th of July.
speeedracerr 7 months ago
@speeedracerr. Like to help when possible. The .357 was invented to help law enforcement with a problem they had back in the 30s. That problem was the insufficient penetrating ability of the .38 spc on car doors. Today not so much as the gauge of sheet metal used today is much thinner. Use some +P for your .38, unless you are worried about shooting through barriers it will do the job. Get a box of good JHP rounds. Shot placement and abilty to strike vital organs is more important than 9 vs 38.
QuantumKoala 7 months ago
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theIneluctable1 7 months ago
.40 and 10mm have more differences than length alone. Good video otherwise.
remmy8700 7 months ago
@remmy8700 , You think!
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@hickok45 I do, big 10mm fan. Sorry for repeating what has already been said. Not much of a youtuber and I don't bother reading other's comments. Keep up the good work.
remmy8700 7 months ago
@hickok45 could you fire a .380 acp out a 9mm gun? they are about the same. i know it is prob not advisable.
wsmarines 5 months ago
@wsmarines No. Look up "Cartridge headspace". That will tell you why we don't do that. xD
Speedogg138 5 months ago
@Speedogg138 k thx
wsmarines 5 months ago
@remmy8700 Actually the difference in cases is negligible. How they engage the mechanics of the semi-auto pistol is what makes the huge difference between them. Semi-autos headspace on the mouth of the cartridge not the rim so a .40 would seat too deep for the extractor to engage the rim in a 10mm. However all bets are off if you have a S&W 610. It's chambered for 10mm but uses moon clips and will effectively chamber the .40 rounds in a direct comparison to the .38/.357 - .44spl/.44mag.
mjmcg 7 months ago
Even though I consider myself an experienced shooter, you make great videos that I plan on showing my girlfriend. She is interested in buying guns and I will help her in shopping but I will send her to your videos to learn the basics that I just don't feel like teaching.
4Tcal 7 months ago
The annotation at 8:51ish "All the bullets are 38 caliber weather they are .357 or 38 special." Shouldn't that be All the bullets are .357 caliber instead of .38, seeing as the .38 in .38 special describes the approximate diameter of a loaded case.
PiGood 7 months ago
what are the revolvers used in this video?
i love the stainless steel 44 and the detectives special!
betabluecat 7 months ago
so special is just a shorter and lighter load and a magnum round is a little linger and mor powder......i know about guns but little things i dont wanna seem stupid to ask but good job it helped me out alot keep up the good work
xmike8259x 7 months ago
ok. I have a question and maybe its been asnwered before and I just missed it, Is there a Mrs. Hickok? And another question, Do a lot of your students subscribe to your channel?
Glockoma441FA 7 months ago
The cases of the 10mm are thicker and also use large pistol primers. The .40 use small pistol primers. There is a difference, a .40 isn't a short 10mm. Just as 7.62x 51 isn't .308 Win. The revolver can shoot the shorter specials as it headspaces off of it's rim. An auto-pistol spaces off of the case. Do not shoot .40s out of a 10mm. Eventually it will create a problem and if you like your 10mm pistol in one piece. It is not advised as Mr. Hickok states.
QuantumKoala 7 months ago
@QuantumKoala The .40s will headspace on the extractor. It's still not wise to shoot .40 out of a 10mm without proper modifications though...
remmy8700 7 months ago
@remmy8700. That is not what headspacing is and the fact that the extractor will not allow the round to space properly is the ticking time bomb. The is no forcing cone to minimize potential lodging or flash gap that will allow excessive pressure from that improper fit to relieve the potential spike in pressure. The case mouth must space off of the chamber not the extractor. If you were to modify properly you will replace the springs and the barrel to .40.
QuantumKoala 7 months ago
Excellent instructional video with equally excellent speaking ability :)
I'd sure love to have his collection of handguns! There was a time in my younger days when I had loads of great handguns, many of which pictured here. But not all of us have fared so well in the game of life, and like many, have had to sell nearly everything with the exception of a select *few*.
Wish I had a nice range like this one though, as I never get to actually use mine anymore :(
thebakerman1 7 months ago
2 people were on the range.
ArmyGuy543 7 months ago
Love ur vids. you are the Western version of FPSrussia =D
TheHickstead 7 months ago
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skelter901 8 months ago
Thanks a lot for doing these videos, I learn a lot from you, and really enjoy watching them. And even though we all know how much you hate to shoot your guns, I appreciate you doing it anyway! ;-)
29thinfgeek 8 months ago
I love revolvers.
SuperRevolvingdoor 8 months ago
Interesting, I had not considered the origin of the term magnum as it refers to a firearm cartridge or handgun.
MAGNUM - 1788, "bottle containing two quarts of wine or spirits," from L. magnum , neut. of magnus "great". Registered 1935 by Smith & Wesson Inc., of Springfield, Mass., as the name of a powerful type of handgun.
theKGB65 8 months ago
do you conceal carry and what gun do you carry?
Palillos1337 8 months ago
My doctor called me "special" the other day.
LemurHotel 8 months ago
I'm curious my father has a gun that was his stepfather's and it has Secret Service Special on the barrel and SSS on the handle, it is a 38 revolver. His Stepfather was a Police Officer for over 50 years, but were not sure if he was in the Secret Service, is this a purchasable gun?
TheUprisingNinja 8 months ago
Sorry you didn't explain why a hotter load will end up lower on the target? I've noticed that with my glock 29 when I shoot 40 cal vs the 10mm
spongah 8 months ago
When you see 38 Special +P, what does the +P signify? More power?
Merc4Lyfe1 8 months ago
@Merc4Lyfe1 Higher chamber pressure and therefore they should only be chambered in firearms made to handle that pressure. But yes, the power is greater in the +p rounds.
rwrp 8 months ago
@garzac7815 I know exactly what you are saying. But the target it is impacting is vertical, not the horizontal ground.
yodaofcoolness 8 months ago
Great video Hickok. Shows the massive difference between Magnum and Specials. Night and day.
Kullg4r 8 months ago
I am new to all of this and love your videos!! My dumb question for today is there a 38 and a 38 special or is there just 38 specials? Also is there a 44 and 44 special or are they all 44 specials? When I am talking about a 38 to an experienced gun guy does he automatically assume that I am referring to a 38 special?
68Charger46 8 months ago
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scsmia 8 months ago
Excellent vid. Would like to see a vid. On the sprig field cd 45 compact
scsmia 8 months ago
When dealing with a 2" barrel, is there a benefit to using the .357magnum? I've heard you lose any potential benefit with a barrel that short and it just ends up being harder to shoot accurately.
gamonman 8 months ago
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
212wdgsdg 8 months ago
You THE MAN, Big DAWG!
TheJackyBear 8 months ago
Love hearing the ping of the metal when the bullet hits. Maybe you should set up different size gongs/metal plates and make yourself a Hickok45 music video. :-)
simafication 8 months ago
Love to see some 340gr buffalo bores from a Ruger Redhawk 4" barrel. Hint Hint.
I been really diggin your recent revolver kick.
fire1777 8 months ago
Never new I could shoot .38 specials in my .357, that will save me some money, yay.
Levetti408 8 months ago
Why does the magnum round shoot lower than the special round? That seems counter-intuitive to me. Also, why is one a .357 and the other a .38 if they are both the same diameter round? Thanks for your videos.
mtvernonmills 8 months ago
Another excellent video! Thanks, Hickok45.
ThinBlueLine1969 8 months ago
When I was at the range the other day a guy was firing a .357 magnum. I totally underestimated its power. I knew it was a strong cartridge but when he fired that thing BAM my hearing protection didn't do so well with it, and i could feel the muzzle blast hitting my clothes when I was multiple feet away from him.
reaperflynn3 8 months ago
Great video, hickock45. As always, much appreciated and LIFE IS GOOD :-)
echorwt 8 months ago
Have the 38 & 44 always been know as "special" or did that come after the Magnum loads came out?
flozbob666 8 months ago
@flozbob666, Actually, they were not the first .38 or .44. They were longer, more powerful upgrades of earlier cartridges, so they were called "Special."
hickok45 8 months ago 6
What type of camera do you use?
OrlandoTrader 8 months ago
You ARE the best, Hickok45. You shoot like ..... amazing. Look forward to all your videos, INCLUDING your instructional videos.
Hope my guy Jake Locker does well for himself & your Titans (I'm a Husky, but about YOUR age, H45 :-)
tugdawg 8 months ago
You ARE the best, Hickok45. You shoot like ..... amazing. And love your instructional videos.
Hope my guy Jake Locker does well for himself & your Titans (I'm a Husky, but about your age, H45 :-)
tugdawg 8 months ago
Could you do a video that explains the different types of revolver frames?
Sting3733 8 months ago
Could you explain the +p in ammunition in more detail please?
luckydud55 8 months ago
Haha I think it's so funny you put this video up, I was just thinking which should I buy? A 38 spl. or a 357 revolver. I click on your page and your home video is on the very topic! Great video thanks for the info.
nevaganvolyourself71 8 months ago
your such a inspiration! hickok45 is the best channel :)
haha im wondering have you found lots of dead animals in the woods from all the stray bullets you fire? i would hate to be a rabbit running by your targets lol
dvideos86 8 months ago
I LOVE your educational videos. I'm a newbie and a large percentage of what I've learned has been through you. Thanks again!!!
jeastreet 8 months ago 37
Loved the video, you learn something new everyday
patrickbeeman1 8 months ago
love your videos keep it up your very informative and your a great host.
unlicencedDriver999 8 months ago
What I can't figure out is why the magnum is shooting lower. It seems to me that it is going faster, so gravity would have less time to pull it down... So i'm really confused. So does the 357 shoot lower than the 38? does the 22 mag shoot lower than the 22 long rifle out of a pistol? Is this something that happens all the time, in all magnum pistols, or just for that particular gun?
yodaofcoolness 8 months ago
@yodaofcoolness it depends on the gun not the bullet if it shoots low its probibly the gun
unlicencedDriver999 8 months ago
@yodaofcoolness actually that is a common misconception. The weight of the bullet does not matter. Neither does velocity out of the barrel. Gravity (the y-direction) if you will, is completely independent of velocity (the x-direction). If you launch say a golfball from an m4 or ar-15 and you drop a water melon from the same altitude above the ground. They will both hit the ground at the same exact time.
garzac7815 8 months ago
@garzac7815 I DISAGREE !! The watermelon will never hit the ground if HIckok45 is around - especially if he has the 500 S&W Magnum in his hand. :-)
tugdawg 8 months ago
@garzac7815 I DISAGREE !! The watermelon will never hit the ground if HIckok45 is around - especially if he has the 500 S&W Magnum in his hand. :-)
tugdawg 8 months ago
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@garzac7815 I DISAGREE !! The watermelon will never hit the ground if HIckok45 is around - especially if he has the 500 S&W Magnum in his hand. :-)
tugdawg 8 months ago
@garzac7815 The velocity does matter and because of that mass does too. Yes gravity pulls things towards the earth at the same acceleration (ignoring wind resistance), but if it takes a projectile 2X as long to reach its target, that means gravity has 2X as long to pull it down.
yodaofcoolness 8 months ago
@yodaofcoolness Yoda... one thing has nothing to do with the other. Acceleration in the x-direction has no effect on acceleration in the y-direction. Lok it up in a physics book chief. Also, you just agreed with me wholeheartedly... you just do not know enough physics to realize it. If gravity accelerates everything at 9.8(m/s/s) or 32.2 (ft/s/s), and the initial speed of the projectile is 0 in the y-direction, then the two projectiles will hit the ground at the same exact time. Look it up.
garzac7815 8 months ago
@yodaofcoolness, See my explanation below; the bullet is not in the barrel as long to be affected by recoil. There are other reasons, too, and it depends on the distance and gun.
hickok45 8 months ago 7
@hickok45 That is very interesting and something I have never thought of before. I guess a shorter barrel would do that less. Thank you for the explanation.
yodaofcoolness 8 months ago
@hickok45 Does the rifling of the barrel in a .357 make the bullet of a .38 shoot high? I understand that weight wise a .38 bullet and a .357 bullet can weigh the same, but a .357 may need a higher twist ratio in the barrel's rifling to stabilize better the bullet because it has more powder than a .38, hence being a hotter load.
SuspectingCitizen 8 months ago
@SuspectingCitizen I think the rifling has to do with the bullet length primarily so heavier bullets in the same caliber need more stabilization via faster twist rate. I don't think it affects how high or low you hit, but an unstable bullet may keyhole and be inaccurate. The hotter load will be in the barrel for less time and therefore be less affected by muzzle flip from recoil and hence shoot lower for the same point of aim.
rwrp 8 months ago
@yodaofcoolness The point Hickok is trying to make about the time the bullet is in the firearm is good. In handguns, particularly revolvers where the line of bore sits above the hand so high is that recoil starts acting fairly quickly. The trick was matching front sight height to a load to counteract it.. SInce different loads have different impact points, you have an adjustable rear sight that takes the function of not only horizontal adjustment, but compensating for front sight height.
TheFoundersWereRight 8 months ago
@TheFoundersWereRight So you are saying that it's an issue of Point-of-aim vs. Point-of-impact and the factor that in a revolver the grip is so low from the barrel allowing for a greater muzzle flip due to recoil? Now I'm lost! A .38, and we speak factory loads by ANSI/SAAMI standards, has less recoil than a .357, so how can it shoot higher according by what its being said?
SuspectingCitizen 8 months ago
@SuspectingCitizen It also travels slower. It has something to do with the ammount of time recoiling forces have to act on the position of the barrel while the bullet is in it. An example of this is with old Colt SSA Revolvers. Front sight height, since the rear sights were fixed, would be different on longer and shorter barreled versions. The load was the same, but the front sight height was matched to the barrel length to counteract the extra time the bullet stayed in the barrel.
TheFoundersWereRight 8 months ago
@TheFoundersWereRight Now I'm tracking! Got it. Thanks for bringing light to this issue. Good info from you and Hickok.
SuspectingCitizen 8 months ago
ordered my S&W686 6" 7 shooter today,no u cant have it u have enough toys ....Thanks for feeding the addiction !
excelerater 8 months ago
I thought the 10mm, 40 or auto rounds in general head space on the front of the case?
wannatipAcanoe 8 months ago
Would loading random heavy and light loads help with flinching or is that not advisable since you'll have trouble with followups?
diverson2nd 8 months ago
@diverson2nd It's a good practice technique, I wouldn't do it for carry rounds, but at the range. I sometimes load up snap caps randomly in my magazines and test my self on the tap rack drill. It is equally effective on detecting flinching, but I don't see how it will stop you from flinching.
rwrp 8 months ago
I LOVE the look of your 357. :D !
LolwtfpwndQQ 8 months ago
the .44 special sounded like a .22 ater the magnums
frodo70444 8 months ago