SC4 - Ivy's Long Range Ring Out Combo

[goofusTV5000]

nasty

[TheBlaziken437]

Own't.

[BrutalMoonDragon]

lolz wat a glitch in the end

[anthonyszy7]

what did you use as ivy's costume? it actually looks.. nice.

[zeldalink13]

On the gane cube it dosent work like that

[anthonyszy7]

@zeldalink13 namco changed her move set. like many other peoples.

[CursedVizion23]

Doesn't "Sortie" mean exit or out??

[Hanssen69]

Love to see the enemy fight back.

[Sablicious]

Anyone who picks pontoon levels in Spam Calibur Floor, especially with near-borken characters like the shemale here, is a bone fide basement dwelling retard.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious Haters be hatin'. Lrn2Skill and maybe you won't get spammed to death?

Unless it's lag

lag johnz legit.

[Sablicious]

@SoraHyuuga01 Pontoon stage with broken characters = scrubbism. Lag or no lag.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious Ya but referring to the game like it's ALL spam is inaccurate. Only lower level play.

I run random anyway.

BCUZ DATS HOW I ROLL.

[Sablicious]

@SoraHyuuga01 Being a Vader user, trust me -- the game is predominantly spam... especially online.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious Perhaps it depends on the player's predisposition to use simple strategies. I suppose with the shiny graphics and bouncy ladies that SC4 would attract enough 14 year olds fools to make the online metagame dominated by spammers and idiots. I guess I only thought it was the minority because my connection is nowhere near potent enough to take online play seriously, and all of my opponents offline can't touch my Xianghua -- even if they spam their asses off.

[Sablicious]

@SoraHyuuga01 The problem with the game was the nerf'd / weak defensive system.

In earlier SCs, parrying allowed u to punish. This would deter fools from high-low spamming. In SCIV, a successful parry put the opponent in the one, single safe place on the stage - floored, at a player's 4 / 8 o'clock. Retarded.

Then we had the pathetic repels that were only of use when of the Just variety; effectively a random occurrance. Retarded².

The hallmark of any good fighter is a robust defensive system.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious And stepping was nerfed. I did notice that Parry is completely useless unless your back is to the edge (effectively one of the positions you should never let yourself get put into anyway).

The gameplay was also significantly slowed down between 2 and 4. Going from playing the former to the latter when I got it, I was set off by the uneccessary shift in speed. It's sad.

Your points are valid and have reinforced my decision to stick with sc2 and other, much better fighters.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious -cont.- So ya. Pardon my previous insolent statements and whatnot. You're surprisingly one of the few on youtube who seems to know what they're talking about. The majority being fools, I tend to assume most people are of that status until proven otherwise.

[Sablicious]

@SoraHyuuga01 I was reared on a diet of 90's arcade fighters & console games that were arguably even harder to master! So, naturally, my idea of constitutes a good fighter is very different from what today's pro casualization, 100-hit 'ratta tat tat' canned combo loving, spamming, lag abusing, leaderboard whoring scrubs' is.

I don't agree 100% about speed being so integral as it flies in the face of reactionary play, making way for an aniticipation-only model. But too slow is no good either.

[SoraHyuuga01]

@Sablicious I think speed was just taken away arbitrarily from SC2 to SC4. SC2 wasn't the fastest fighter in the world but the level it had was decent and there was no coherent reason to slow it down. Speed can add to the excitement of a match. You can of course have too much of a good thing, but a lack of speed can leave matches in a state of "stupidly uninteresting". But as long as there's depth then it doesn't really matter I suppose.

90's arcade = Guilty Gear/SF? Not sure.

[CAPPUCCINOJONES000]

sortie! the only uses i find for this are TOLS and online ranked matches....because ranked=noobs

[miciso666]

at the end lol u got lucky XD i once had that with algol and all my data go corrupted off soulcalibur cuz i just unlocked an honor -,-, really sucked

[Puolakanaho]

nice

[antyv2k]

You guys are fucking idiots.

[ProOwnage]

who

[mitzanu2007]

well only if you get hit by those, its not a prob if you use guard

[ihateyoubitch88]

HEY OUTFiT WAS HiTTiN

[31421]

Does siegfried sounds like Link or is it just me?

[MikeyR0101]

They are the same voice actor so yes, with japanese voices he will sound like link.

[azurada23]

the japanese voice actor for siegfried also voices Link

[Chozo97]

@azurada23 LoL it sounds really like link xD

[bqureshi21]

@azurada23

yup, yoshimitsu also

[RedRum6x3]

@azurada23 Cool. Thanks for the 411

[Zagardal]

Try SC2 on the gamecube to compare them directly.

[fenderDG6]

what are all of those letters and numbers in the description? what does wp_22 88b mean? im not a noob im actually really good (im on a 35 win streak right now) i just dont know what that stuff means. can someone tell me without being a real asshole about it?

[manticore125]

the numbers describe which direction to push

789

456  = directional pad

123

letters are probably stances, but i dont play with ivy so i dont kow for sure

[Darkxpyder]

many of these doesnt work anymore since a patch came and now forces you to change stances sometimes...

[demluxia]

Daaaayyuuummm NICE

[kamikaZkida]

GAYYY the whip turns into the coil after u do 2b+k so u cant do 3b+k afterward your video is a hoax or somethings just wrong

[Darkxpyder]

Try it doing quick presses of the buttons, you will be able to do it once without automatically changing instances, but if you do it again, you will change instances(this logic seems to be true to all attacks in which instance change buttons are involved)...(hate that by the way...)

[rockmansonic]

yeah the patch nerfeddddddddddddddd ivy

[Duman87]

just hold A while doing 2B+K and u can stay in WP.

[MrFakerz]

B makes me kick! :(

[poopmaster07]

its kinda funny at the end :)

[MetallicaFTW7]

wait wtf is this sortie thing at the end?????????

[liero116]

it means ring out in whatever crazy language this game is in

[Akabuena]

"sortie" is ring out in french, and it is not a crazy language like liero116 said

[jolo679]

the last one is broken.

[Stanlos]

It looks like to lift them to you one has to have the computer set to counter attack making this a counter hit.

[Darkcoremaster]

does anyone know how to do that move where ivy says "ensnare" ? i cant find it! :S

[andrewknight2]

i wish the producers didnt make ivy look like some whore she looked better on SC2...

[Stanlos]

She does look a bit desperate for attention this time out.  SCII was in many ways the best game in the series. I especially loved Taki's and Ivy's costumes (1p and 2p). Love the custom mode in SCIV though. It saves the day!

[animetsuki13]

doesnt the combo rely on the distance for it to go ring out??

[superSpartanjunior]

for what are the numbers in the script for the combos?

[lyokodude122]

The number represent the directions: 789

456

123

So, when they say 88 or 22b, they mean press up or down twice, then press B.

[Shadowsmoke11]

Ivy is broken in SCIV!

[onimotoko]

No, she's as powerful as she should be for someone who is as slow as her.

[animetsuki13]

wat do u mean broken?

[Eidorianl]

Hey I need your help, may be you could help me.

I want to do the combo with only STINGING SOULS but when I press B+K my weapon changes into the coiled state. So the question is : HOW TO DO STINGING SOUL WITHOUT CHANGING WEAPON INTO COILED STATE ? I WANT TO STAY IN WHIP MODE.

Thanks!

[ArkNeither]

i've never tried it myself, but what i notice other utube video people doing, when they're playing ivy and using stinging souls....when it changes into coiled state and they want it to be in whip state, all i see them do is have it go to coiled state, then change it back to whip

[JayFirebird22]

Love Ivy, every bow! Lol, i use ivy and she's my favorite, then Sophitia's next.

[lifecanbeboaring08]

that was funny at the end when he was just laying on the ground and suddenly got a ring out

[S4disticJ0k3r]

IVY must be the best character in soul caliber with all these auto win combo's she has

[davis5259]

how did you get that outfit

[Shadowsmoke11]

He made it in character creation mode.

[AspLode]

Ah, well then, forgive my ignorance

[shoNuuff]

Many of the ring out combos that start at 0:58 is set on COUNTER ATTACK. You can't do that as a normal atack and even if you pull it off ingame each attack that follows must be counter which is for your sake IMPOSSIBLE, but there are some more natural ways to do this without using counters but it takes real skill.

Also to do this on the fly is pretty unreliable, she has WAAAAY better combos than this but it's a good noob killer :)

[AspLode]

Doesn't SC4 have air control?

Wouldn't that mean that these ringouts are unviable for competitive play?

Especially the part where you're chaining all the B+K's to bring the opponent closer?

[shoNuuff]

You can only air control after three hits.

You can air control out of certain attacks that for example make your back flip or something.

So since most of the combos are about 2 to 3 hits with a back flip, you can't air control out, but you can't do it all the time and most attacks need to be set up specifically.

[AxesHiroki]

gamers, listen to me and listen well. A move is cheap when used against you, but it makes you feel good when you use it. don't deny it!! :P

[darknessredefine]

where are my responses to the comments

[tensa99]

lol

[darknessredefine]

i how about you guys focus on actually being good at the game instead of trying to be ringout experts

[KowtowRobinson]

So you can be good at the game without understanding one of the basic features included in the game by the developers? Sounds fishy to me.

[LeftyHangsLower]

Don't be a noob.

Ringouts, and the threat of a ringout, add another layer of depth to the game, fostering highly strategic play. You have to constantly be aware of your position in relation to the edge, as well as your opponent, and capitalize on their mistakes by chucking their ass off stage.

[shougoh]

basically, cheap noob stratagies. you probly also spam retarded crap cuz you know the lag makes it hard to evade, and you probly sit there and hit your opponent when they're knocked out just to be a douche.

[LeftyHangsLower]

I don't play online, because even with 5 bars, there are 3 frames of input lag.

I don't spam, because it's a stupid, losing strategy. If you lose to spam, you just suck.

[daaa57150]

is your ivy equipped with some skills or is that possible in standard matches?

[Zoulcalibur]

All had made with standart equipment (without any weapon effect). But now with the new patch some trick don't work anymore.

[Darkxpyder]

I´m guessing most of those B+K combos doesnt work anymore since it changes your stance to coiled after each attack 1B+K , 2B+K or 3B+K

[flipevent]

I don't get this, you'd go back to coiled after some of these combos, and you wouldn't be able to go back to whip until after a few seconds.

Am I missing something?

[whirow]

guess you are~ Ivy has a "glitch" where she can switch stances in between moves without animation

little example will be coil 3B (B+K during 3B for the switch) sword 9B+K

[joey368]

I know I'd explode after getting owned by one of those

[Kokorosync]

You can air control out of two of the beginning ones, I think. However the rest are truly epic, nice job.

[Akabuena]

thats why i fight in cage only.

[leonaaron]

Was practising these, thanks they are awesome! ;D

[Alukard1]

haha sacré Zou ^^" violents certains trucs!

[kewlkid147]

i like the customization u did on ivy, cant wait to get this game