i) 'the magic wand' - the question of the validity of the Fed's power to be in control - in other words, they have no authority other than that which is given to the Fed/US Government by the popular 'vote'.
ii)'only in debt to ourselves' - economic liberals!!! again the Fed, and other governments around the world print money, put us further into debt under the guise of their authority.
Heh. I got that line about "we owe the debt to ourselves" in my first college-level economics course. It took years for me to disconnect myself from that lie, not having had the independence of mind at the time to believe my professor, well esteemed by his collegues, could be wrong. It'd be interesting to know which individuals are at the end of the Fed's ownership chain.
All known matter in the known Universe is composed of electrons, up quarks, down quarks, gluons & neutrinos. Humans just so happened to have evolved to the point where they think some of these particles hold more value than others. They don't. It's just stuff. I don't have the space to type out the rest of my argument. That should be enough to keep you busy with the idea.
@MikeRoePhonicsMusic I agree with your observation, but I think when consciousness assigns value to something it most absolutely holds that value, objectively and subjectively. I just see that 'argument' going down a very trans-Human route lol
@coltsuperocean10 Do you mind elaborating upon that? Please, contribute something that can help us all, except for a one-lined insult and a "Dislike" vote.
@DaveGillie And no, I didn't just say that because of your beliefs about how the Fed runs. I agree with you, Robert Anton Wilson would agree with you. The problem here is that you haven't a scent of a sense of humour, or an ability to think about something in more than one over-simplified, narrow, dogmatic, and petiful way.
So chill out, and learn to think in more than 2 dimensions.
@visiononpaper Member banks are clearly defined on the FED RES' website, it is most ALL US Banks (PRIVATE of course) and therefore mainly most international banks, and as these banks are owned, this also means most all the worlds' super rich people.
@DaveGillie Also when you say to pay taxes do you mean excise taxes? Income Taxes? Property Taxes? Is it possible that you have any concept of usery, plutocracy, or just plain getting fucked by the upper 1%? You sound so adamant that we deserve to pay these "member banks." It's sad really.
@visiononpaper ALL Taxes in the USA require payment in Federal Reserve Notes and the ONLY thing I said was that this need for fiat/legal tender is exactly and only what gives the FED it's power, not any "magic wand" or mystery. and if Wilson meant it as a jokey parady, fine, but answering with the TRUTH should not be attacked so much. I NEVER said ANYthing about we "should" pay these evil people. FEW have worked as hard against the Federal Reserve as I have. GOOGLE MY NAME. duh
@DaveGillie It is perfectly possible to pay taxes in other than FRNs. An electronic transfer does not involve the physical objects called FRNs
The dollar is not a physical object any more than is an inch. The FRN is a physical object falsely said to represent the abstract unit of value called dollar
I've seen the FR site which ends deceptively in gov. That site falsely claims the FR is not owned by anyone It's actual ownership is hidden by a corporate labyrinth. Apparently it's the Rothschilds'
@visiononpaper It is perfectly possible to pay taxes in other than FRNs. An electronic transfer does not involve the physical objects called FRNs
The dollar is not a physical object any more than is an inch. The FRN is a physical object falsely said to represent the abstract unit of value called dollar
I've seen the FR site which ends deceptively in gov. That site falsely claims the FR is not owned by anyone. It's actual ownership is hidden by a corporate labyrinth. Apparently the Rothschilds
@Seveen1 no, no "deeming" made it real. It is real because it' is required by force of law backed up by the largest military in the world, to be USED to PAY TAXES. ie not even the Feds have miracle "deeming" power.
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TheGreeneyedeagle 2 months ago
it is unconstitutional. charlatans and lunatics hijacked the charlatans and lunatics.
cunnidvd 3 months ago
@cunnidvd lol
LordShivasServant 3 months ago
Two very interesting points he raises:
i) 'the magic wand' - the question of the validity of the Fed's power to be in control - in other words, they have no authority other than that which is given to the Fed/US Government by the popular 'vote'.
ii)'only in debt to ourselves' - economic liberals!!! again the Fed, and other governments around the world print money, put us further into debt under the guise of their authority.
flashingswords 3 months ago
Heh. I got that line about "we owe the debt to ourselves" in my first college-level economics course. It took years for me to disconnect myself from that lie, not having had the independence of mind at the time to believe my professor, well esteemed by his collegues, could be wrong. It'd be interesting to know which individuals are at the end of the Fed's ownership chain.
Tigerpaws9097826 4 months ago
All known matter in the known Universe is composed of electrons, up quarks, down quarks, gluons & neutrinos. Humans just so happened to have evolved to the point where they think some of these particles hold more value than others. They don't. It's just stuff. I don't have the space to type out the rest of my argument. That should be enough to keep you busy with the idea.
MikeRoePhonicsMusic 4 months ago
@MikeRoePhonicsMusic I agree with your observation, but I think when consciousness assigns value to something it most absolutely holds that value, objectively and subjectively. I just see that 'argument' going down a very trans-Human route lol
Am I right in my observation?
LordShivasServant 4 months ago
@LordShivasServant Yeah, I think so. Maybe. However, I'm beginning to wonder if anything can be truly objective, but instead completely subjective.
MikeRoePhonicsMusic 4 months ago
@MikeRoePhonicsMusic Yep my stuff is better than your stuff because I eat kennel Ration . Good point.
jobedied 1 week ago
....what a simpleton!
coltsuperocean10 4 months ago
@coltsuperocean10 Do you mind elaborating upon that? Please, contribute something that can help us all, except for a one-lined insult and a "Dislike" vote.
LordShivasServant 4 months ago
@coltsuperocean10 Your lack of elaboration makes me think of you as a bit more of a simpleton than he.
na7201 1 week ago
@na7201 ...people like you should not think! hahahahaha you can elaborate all you like you fuckin dullard.
coltsuperocean10 1 week ago
Terence Mckenna and Robert Anton Wilson.
Daniazco 6 months ago
his voice sounds extremely close to that of george carlin
freecannabis453 10 months ago 7
@freecannabis453 haha agreed. And would ya have guessed that they knew each other? Carlin said he's never learned from a single person than Old Bob.
Have a nice FNORD
LordShivasServant 10 months ago 5
does anybody know where the full talk is? It used to be here or on google video but I cant seem to find it, does anyone have it?
vibrohm 1 year ago
It's NOT a magic wand, it IS clearly and simply, the need for Federal Reserve Notes to PAY TAXES,
DUH!!
and the Federal Reserve's website says "100% owned by member Banks".
DaveGillie 1 year ago
@DaveGillie Jesus Christ, you are a fucking retard.
LordShivasServant 1 year ago 4
@DaveGillie And no, I didn't just say that because of your beliefs about how the Fed runs. I agree with you, Robert Anton Wilson would agree with you. The problem here is that you haven't a scent of a sense of humour, or an ability to think about something in more than one over-simplified, narrow, dogmatic, and petiful way.
So chill out, and learn to think in more than 2 dimensions.
LordShivasServant 1 year ago 9
@LordShivasServant
Well said.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
@DaveGillie Who are the member banks since that clarifies just about nothing?
visiononpaper 11 months ago
@visiononpaper Member banks are clearly defined on the FED RES' website, it is most ALL US Banks (PRIVATE of course) and therefore mainly most international banks, and as these banks are owned, this also means most all the worlds' super rich people.
DaveGillie 11 months ago
@DaveGillie Also when you say to pay taxes do you mean excise taxes? Income Taxes? Property Taxes? Is it possible that you have any concept of usery, plutocracy, or just plain getting fucked by the upper 1%? You sound so adamant that we deserve to pay these "member banks." It's sad really.
visiononpaper 11 months ago
@visiononpaper ALL Taxes in the USA require payment in Federal Reserve Notes and the ONLY thing I said was that this need for fiat/legal tender is exactly and only what gives the FED it's power, not any "magic wand" or mystery. and if Wilson meant it as a jokey parady, fine, but answering with the TRUTH should not be attacked so much. I NEVER said ANYthing about we "should" pay these evil people. FEW have worked as hard against the Federal Reserve as I have. GOOGLE MY NAME. duh
DaveGillie 11 months ago
@DaveGillie It is perfectly possible to pay taxes in other than FRNs. An electronic transfer does not involve the physical objects called FRNs
The dollar is not a physical object any more than is an inch. The FRN is a physical object falsely said to represent the abstract unit of value called dollar
I've seen the FR site which ends deceptively in gov. That site falsely claims the FR is not owned by anyone It's actual ownership is hidden by a corporate labyrinth. Apparently it's the Rothschilds'
JesusDillinger 5 months ago
@visiononpaper It is perfectly possible to pay taxes in other than FRNs. An electronic transfer does not involve the physical objects called FRNs
The dollar is not a physical object any more than is an inch. The FRN is a physical object falsely said to represent the abstract unit of value called dollar
I've seen the FR site which ends deceptively in gov. That site falsely claims the FR is not owned by anyone. It's actual ownership is hidden by a corporate labyrinth. Apparently the Rothschilds
JesusDillinger 5 months ago
Ps: the US is @ $13 trill, including Govt State enterprises (Fannie & Freddie) is $20trill
Bonzomad 1 year ago
raving lunatics and outright charlitans, running your life since you were born.
ekeyra 1 year ago
It's real cause the federal govt deems it so. It's said amount some that state is god and god says "it's not real unless the fed res says so."
Who owns the stock? Look to former CIA heads and former presidents.
Seveen1 2 years ago
@Seveen1 no, no "deeming" made it real. It is real because it' is required by force of law backed up by the largest military in the world, to be USED to PAY TAXES. ie not even the Feds have miracle "deeming" power.
DaveGillie 11 months ago