@ucancallmeOh Cycling right through those sock puppet accounts I see. I believe I have shown you where the 'experts' you cite are either victims of misinformation, or are just making crap up.
I have called you a moron, moron, and you have yet to say anything intelligent to disprove it. Mountain of evidence? Ummm, Where? All I ever get to see is the same old truther garbage, that doesn't even come from a scientist, but from a philosopher. Then there are his lackies trying to make science fit the moron's theories that only the semi-literate gullibillies will buy. Yep, yep, yep, I'm going to the zoo. morons.
So let a twoofer tell you how David Griffin (Theologian/career brain washer) and Richard Gage (Architect) are smarter than major universities with 100's of engineers and PHD's.
sydney.edu. au /engineering/civil/wtc.s html (remove spaces)
civil.northwestern.ed u/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466. pdf
tms.? o rg? /pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.h tm? l
Just because the internet gives you a pulpit doesn't make you an expert.
@MrRexquando Oh you silly duhbunker! Those that continue to believe the original ridiculous conspiracy theory created by Bush, are the only fools guilty of mocking this tragedy! You continuously post those links with the suggestion that they are facts. You have NO evidence other than what you have read, that suggests that there is any form of truth behind that silly story of how 19 hijackers managed to take over 4 airplanes with boxcutters and knives! Give it a rest already! *Sigh*
@MrRexquando Who the fuck are you calling a moron? You watch what you say to me nigga. Me and my brothers are spreading the truth my nigga! Why must you deny it? I've shown you a mountain of evidence and you still deny it. Your a paid shill. You get paid to life for the government! Admit it nigga! Admit it !
@Hotters70652XTY Or what moron? Your spreading lies creating more like Jared Loughner.
Why do you dodge my questions?
You have some problem with me using Richard Gage's own website to show he only has 15 Structural engineers out of 150,000 registered with ASCE that believe his fantasy? Sorry that's the truth.
Do you have any truth to show?
Funny how you call yourself a "truther" yet you don't want the truth and can never provide the truth.
@MrRexquando "Your spreading lies creating more like Jared Loughner." You keep bringing him up, but you apparently have no clue! Loughner's vulnerable and psychotic profile, combined with his interest in mind control, mirrors other famous assassins such as Mark David Chapman, John Hinckley, as well as Columbine killers Harris & Klebold.None of the aforementioned can be shown to have had any political ties that would have lead them to carry out their deeds of destruction. Same as JL
@Tricky1ish So are you saying Loughner wasn't a hard core twoofer?
Anti government sentiment is what they all have in common. Have you read these comment strings? Everyone starts with 'the govt. lies and did this so they could oppress the public'
@MrRexquando The only pattern I see is with you duhbunkers calling us paranoid, government haters, etc. You have made claims that it is because you worry about us creating another loughner? Bullcrap! That is pure lies! And you need to learn how to read or comprehend. Loughner had mental issues. I have seen many of you duhbunkers exhibit some severe mental issues too! What makes you so certain that the next guy who shoots people won't be one of your own? I would be more inclined to
@MrRexquando believe that there are more on your side who have that type of personality. You duhbunkers are ruthless and angry. I also believe that you all exhibit paranoia more than us "truthers" do!"
As far as us "truthers" making claims that the government lies? Um... They do, and you know that they do! If you don't believe that they lie, then you are clearly an idiot in denial. If they lie to us about a few things, what else have they been lying to us about? Think about it!
@MrRexquando So.. In reality, you are the one spreading the lies! You make an attempt to lead others like you to believe that a "truther" was responsible. When in fact, the guy clearly had some mental issues. It can be said that there are people from both sides of our "spectrum" that can carry out a deed similar to what Loughner did. I have met many people from both sides of this debate and I have found myself, on more than one occasion to be slightly frightened by your type.
@MrRexquando Your type, and I certainly don't mean all believers of the OS. Just strictly your type, are mean, nasty, violent, angry people. You are unable to comprehend why our beliefs are so strong so your initial response is to be vulgar and rude to us. Instead of seriously trying to find out why we believe in what we do. I am not a paranoid person, nor do I have any mental illness that makes me believe what I do. But your first instinct is to always suggest that I and others
@MrRexquando are simply nuts and that is why we believe what we do. Let's put it in a way you might understand.. Your child is shot, you didn't see the shooter. But based on what you have heard and seen initially on tv and what you feel inside your heart, you know that the man being held responsible is not truly the guilty one. You start reading different police reports and see too many lies and contradictions and your heart convinces you. You want proper justice! No more lies!
@Hotters70652XTY Fuck you Ass Hole! Quit going around impersonating me. What is your problem @ravensfan2058? What is your problem? You are a moron and what these people are saying about you is the truth. Don'at act stupid with people please.
@ucancallmeOh One of the most incriminating pieces of evidence against George w. Bush (that he had prior knowledge of 911) is the FACT that he just sat there on the morning of September 11th, 2001 upon hearing that America was under attack when a second airplane flew into the South Tower at 9:03 a.m.
@ucancallmeOh No president would just sit idly in a chair after hearing that "AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK" unless he knew before hand what was going to happen. George W. Bush KNEW! In fact, the mountain of evidence overwhelmingly reveals that the Bush administration was instrumental in orchestrating the 911 attacks.
Molten steel was found but truthers just assume it was caused by thermite before it fell and totally ignore the fact that fires burned for weeks in the fallen rubble
@Spindry96 ~ Wait...hold the phone! You think it's normal or typical for fires to burn for weeks in fallen rubble? Wow...what a pathetic debunker you are.
@ucancallmeOh Traditional tribes bury food under soil or sand with hot coals to cook their food this actas as an incubator. Frefighters poured water on the rubble for days. Heated metal + water causes steam and hydrogen generating a lot of additional heat and producing a corrosive reaction. The recovered steel was heavily oxidized and sulidified.
@ae911truthcensors ~ At 3:38 the late Ed Asner introduces the topic of NIST. Then at 3:45 Dr. Sunder explains that WTC 7 went down due to "Office fires".
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
@ucancallmeOh We are all commenting on this video 9/11 Coincidences (11/19) right now. We are on our way to that video. Come and join us man! This is a very big and good debate.
@ae911truthcensors What does the invasion of Iraq have to do with 9/11? Why did we even go to Iraq to begin with? And why did George W. Bush accuse Saddam Hussein of helping Al Qaeda with 9/11? Think about.
@ae911truthcensors What about the 2 other bombs that were found in the Alfred P. Murrah Building during the Oklahoma City 1995 Bombing? Explain that Ass Hole! How the Hell did Timothy McVeigh plant those 2 other explosive devices inside of the Murrah Building prior to the bombing?
@ae911truthcensors Much has been learned about the attacks, yet the official version has never changed; it seems as though our government thinks the point moot since it used this excuse to pass unconstitutional laws and wage wars resulting in oil profits. The time has come to admit the sorry truth as a nation, so that we can move on - as a nation
man conspiracy theorists suck so much dick their brains are touched. This old fucking man on this video doesn't know his head from his ass. you can't compare a building to a fucking brick if he knew anything about physics. Did you know that none of the 150 000 architects/enginners that support the conspiracy have a college degree?? HMMM
@MrLostinLine Where did you hear that obvious lie from? The government or some idiot on youtube trying to keep you from believing in the REAL truth of 9/11? I mean, seriously? Do you hear yourself? My ten year-old can even see that your statement is ridiculous! Good Grief!
@Tricky1ish Huge fight on the video 9/11 Coincidences 11 19 uploaded by a user named Nuffrespect2. Go there right now man and see this debate! This is the best debate ever.
@Tricky1ish Dude you're the fuckin idiot. It's a well known fact that the 3 creators of "Loose Change". the most watched video on youtube and biggest reason that you fuckin retards think 9/11 was a conspiracy, is made by 3 of the dumbest people on the planet. All of which are making money off of their lies, and your stupidity. None of which have a college degree. NONE of the 150 000 "structural engineers" who "claim" that there is no way a plane took down one building let alone two, have
@MrLostinLine A COLLEGE DEGREE. The fact is, the 9/11 report NEVER says the steel melted. The steel was weakened to the point that it bowed, and collapsed under immense weight. you're a fuckin dumbass and should be rid of the Earth you are actually that stupid
@MrLostinLine I have to question the type of person who uses a lot of profanity to someone he has never talked to before just to get his insane point across, and also uses the words "fact" and "youtube" in the same sentence! Just so you know, to become a Structual Engineer you must receive a BS Degree(Bachelor of Science) which requires the minimum of 5 years of College! And this is the lowest form. There are higher requirements for higher forms! I can see why you are "LOSTINLINE"
@Tricky1ish ya exactly i'm saying they aren't engineers. And i swear because you disgust me. You and all you other fuckin rodents that are scumming up the earth with your fear mongering. I never used fact and youtube in the same sentence..but the starters of your "truth" movement sure did!
@MrLostinLine Sorry dude, but you are an outright liar! Give some proof that none of them have College degrees! And no youtube "proof"! Give me at least 10 of their names and I will key it up tomorrow at work and prove that they do indeed have College degrees.
I think what you meant to claim was that YOU don't have a college degree, I would imagine by your comments that you probably never even graduated from highschool. perhaps not even 8th grade!
@Tricky1ish First of all. I have a University degree in political science. I just love to swear at ignorant twats like you. Go to debunking9/11 . com Do some research. Come back to reality you dumb fuck.
@MrLostinLine Dillon couldn't get accepted into film school and was convicted of deserting from the army. Rowe got busted for heroin. Yes these are the "experts" twisting the minds of morons.
Then Richard Gage's army of architects/engineers of which only 16 are engineers out of 140,000 registered. Most of the 16 completely lied on their "high rise" accomplishments and are actually house builders.
@MrRexquando ~ You are a liar! There is no way in hell that only 16 people out of the more than 1,600 architects and engineers are legitimate engineers. What a piece of garbage liar you are!
@MrRexquando ~ I just let your comment sit there for a while unanswered because it's so childish. You are the one making the accusation that only 16 people listed in the AE911truth(dot)org petition, architect and engineer section, are "registered", the burden of proof is on you.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
WTC7 was a Controlled Demolition. This is grounds for a court case of a false flag attack that murdered 3,000 and 1,000,000 innocent iraqis.
@ucancallmeOh Abbas Behnambakhsh, P.E. Edward E. Knesl, P.E., S.E. Gerald DeVito, P.E. John Charles Lewelling, P.E.S.E. John D. Pryor, Structural Engineer L. Alan Pyeatt, P.E. Marshall Casey Pfeiffer, S.E. Nathan S. Lomba, P.E., S.E., M.ASCE Paul K. Trousdale, Structural Engineer Robert F. Marceau, P.E.Structural Steve Thomas, Structural Engineer -- P.E. Steven Francis Dusterwald Thomas H. Lackey, P.E. Thomas J. Rogers, P.E. William J. Cundiff, P.E. All of them
"This is grounds for a court case" so actually courts want something called EVIDENCE. Since you can't every provide any this will stay in fantasy land.
Like most commenting your so ignorant to the facts. You should have said innocent in Afghanistan not Iraqis. Iraq wasn't about 911. Further proving you are a psycho nut job govt. hater with no concern about the truth or 911.
@MrRexquando ~ Some of the engineers on this video are not listed on your "registered" list. This is nonsense. Are you saying they are frauds? You do realize that professionals who stand up for truth are extremely courageous because they are totally screwing themselves as far as employment goes? That's not because they are nuts, that's because most people look out for their self interests e.g. contracts.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
I got the list from ae911truth. o r g/signpetition.p h p
So put the bong down.
If you google the ones on "explosive evidence" you'll be surprised. Example: Steven Barasch who claims he built a hotel that was built in 1926 (as you have admitted they "fudged" their resumes) most are house builders but claim to build high-rises.
@MrRexquando EastSide Nuthoods Crip Bitch My Nigga! Why are you causing trouble on here? How can you defend mass murders my nigga! Your not right my nigga, if your not going to tell the truth, then shut the hell up nigga!
You have some problem with me using Richard Gage's own website to show he only has 15 Structural engineers out of 150,000 registered with ASCE that believe his fantasy? Sorry that's the truth.
Do you have any truth to show?
Funny how you call yourself a "truther" yet you don't want the truth and can never provide the truth.
@MrRexquando Who are you calling a Douche bag bitch? Who do you think your talking to? You don't fucking tell me what to do nigga! You understand me. Your a punk ass bitch. Don't mess with me man!, Don't Do that.
@MrRexquando Bitch Fuck You! Who the fuck do you think your talking to like that? Me and my brothers, we have shown you a mountain of evidence so what the hell are you talking about? You need to stop dude, your not right. learn english, nigga!
@MrRexquando EastSide Nuthoods Crip Bitch My Nigga! Fuck you. Me and my brothers are different people you son of a bitch nigga! Who do you think your talking to like that? I make alot of money and I'm very professional my nigga. Learn the truth my nigga!
@MrRexquando Nigga! I'm smarter than you will ever be. You suck up to the government. You can't think for yourself can you my nigga? I know it's hard but the truth will set you free my nigga. When Will you see some light to the truth my nigga?
Where is the evidence of controlled demolition? You never provide it. How did you measure the "free fall" as no one could see the side of the building that was damaged by WTC1?
Are you basing your belief on this video? watch?v=k8VAsoVuShM
No one heard explosions
No one saw explosions
No evidence of explosions was found
watch?v=WnYBX6QT0R4 fire fighters state the cause but you won't listen.
@MrRexquando ~ Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that 16 engineers (a retired engineer counts) say that the only way that WTC 7 falls into its own footprint, traveling at free fall for 100 feet, is if all the steel beams are severed at once. This does not fit with the NIST partial model, that only goes to "the initiation of collapse" and which they won't share.
WTC 7 and WTC towers were controlled demolition. The 16 engineers can prove it in court. So, you still FAIL!
@ucancallmeOh Let's just say for the sake of argument that the 15 current engineers were no where near the investigation to even guess at the data (FACT).
So what did they base their blue couch side summaries on in Gage's video?
However 150 engineers belonging to ASCE were involved in the investigation and did have access to materials and data (you have access too). I have provided you there names in the past. They are available for interviews!
@ucancallmeOh You go back and forth. Sometimes you say the NIST report is correct and sometimes it isn't. Which is it? If their report is wrong it in no way proves any other theory is correct. Its called science look into it.
NIST Shared all their work (FACT).
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Most important question:
Have you actually read the NIST report?
Popular Mechanics?
MIT summary?
Univ Sydney summary?
You haven't read any of them (you admitted this). So all you know is what Griffin feeds you.
@MrRexquando ~ How can I claim that the NIST report is correct if you say that I claim to never have read it? I never said that the NIST report is correct. This is just one more instance of you misquoting me.
Popular Mechanics = debunked.
Universities need gov't funding through grants to get the big bucks, so they have to sell-out and tow the line.
Patriotsquestion911(dot)com has former CIA, FBI, and military officers, as well as firefighters, family of victims, AND university professors.
@ucancallmeOh And assholes like Alex Jones have to "sell-out" and "tow the line" so people will still tune into their shows. If he doesn't claim conspiracies, he has no show. 99.99% of architects and engineers DISAGREE with A&E for 9/11 Truth. Wouldn't that make it a consensus that Richard Gage is wrong?
@brassbonanza97 ~ If it weren't for Alex Jones, a lot of great patriots would not get any air time at all because the MSM (mainstream media) is owned by multi-national corporations who put profit above people. The debunkers, paid and unpaid, always try to make character assassinations against people who threaten their profit or their belief system.
WTC 7 was CD (Controlled Demolition). You can't argue against that, so you desperately try to veer off-topic.
@ucancallmeOh Did you not see the other side of WTC7? With all the smoke billowing out? As the old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire. What about the many, many quotes from firefighters saying the building had fires on almost every floor? If it was a controlled demolition, then why did FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro pull the firefighters out of the area a full TWO HOURS before it collapsed? Was Nigro and the FDNY "in on it?"
@brassbonanza97 ~ No, I don't know of anyone in the 9/11 Truth Movement who is accusing any firefighter of any wrongdoing, whatsoever. Let's be crystal clear on that.
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC 7 Freefall by David Chandler
There was a debunker, I don't remember which, who said 'Watch this video, you'll see how the fire raged on and there was no water suppression.' I watched it. There was 20 seconds of inferno, then the fire subsided dramatically. If you have a better video, please show it.
@ucancallmeOh I trust the firefighters who were actually there and not a video that will show you only one side of the building, like most conspiracy videos do. The building was an inferno inside. FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi said “We were looking at two large bodies of fire that neither of us in our 33-year careers had ever seen anything that enormous...I didn’t think we would come out of this unscathed at all. It was just too enormous” Do you feel he's lying?
@ucancallmeOh That quote is actually from Timothy Julian of Ladder 118. And even though it's falsely attributed to someone else, what does it prove? He thought it was a secondary explosion and then someone probably explained what it really was. You talk about using the hard evidence, but you failed to address the fact that multiple firefighters reported fires on almost every floor of WTC7. Were there fires or were there not? Are they lying? Address that, please.
@brassbonanza97 ~ WTC7 came down at 5:20pm. 6 million people live in New York City and there were reporters there out the ass, where is the video footage of a PROLONGED inferno? I haven't seen it.
I have read witness accounts of explosions, however.
@ucancallmeOh So FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi, FDNY Captain Jay Jones, Ground Zero Superintendent Charlie Vitchers, FDNY Deputy Chief Nick Visconti and FDNY Captain Robert Sohmer (among many, many more witnesses) who all said to some degree that WTC7 was fully engulfed are lying because there was no video EVEN THOUGH FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro closed off the area because he and his crew KNEW it was going to collapse due to the fires and it's titling? Look at the smoke billowing out.
@brassbonanza97 ~ Were they "lying" about the explosions? C'mon! You're playing games here. You don't believe their testimony about explosions, but you do believe their testimony about the extent of WTC 7 fires?
BTW, can you provide me a source for those quotes? It's not that I don't believe you -- I do believe you. I would just like to see them in context.
@ucancallmeOh They thought there were explosions until somebody probably told them they weren't, just like the quote you provided. He THOUGHT they were explosions. That's called "past tense" which means he used to think before he was properly informed. My sources are from Mark Robert's work. Google "FDNY & other WTC First Responders, Corporate Response, Volunteers" And that should direct you to tons of eyewitness reports. It's ok to admit you're wrong after viewing his website and links.
@ucancallmeOh Planes were sent to the New York area, after unprecedented delay, from Falmouth, Massachusetts rather than nearby Ft. Dix or LaGuardia. Of course, they didn’t arrive in time - there was no visual scan of the cockpits.
@ucancallmeOh Any time an aircraft deviates from it’s course, the air traffic controller requests a military intercept according to military response code 7610-4J. This was the first time interceptors were not sent up in the history of this policy. The intercept pilots are trained to make a visual check of the cockpit… could this be the reason these interceptors were intercepted? Debunkers are stupid.
@MrRexquando ~ I asked brassbonanza97 for a video of WTC7 as an inferno, for a protracted period of time. He obviously could not produce it. You previously provided a video of an inferno-- that lasted all of 20 seconds then subsided significantly.
In the video you present here, you have ONE firefighter saying the building is going to go... Okay, but how do you explain free-fall for 100 feet? Symmetrical collapse?
@ucancallmeOh So one by one I destroy the pillars of your belief. You don't see the pattern?
So we go on to David Chandler "probably divided by 2 instead of multiplying by 2 inside the radical. I probably shouldn't do these things in my head. "
@MrRexquando ~~ When I quote from Wikipedia debunkers claim that it is not a reliable source, but when debunkers quote from it, that's okay? Typical for you, MrRexquando. I will never believe your denial of being a paid disinformation agent.
Let's have an HONEST investigation -- then you can explain to the court Mr. Chandler's faulty math. Let's remember: NIST is under the Chamber of Commerce. Zelikow from the Chamber gave us the Official 9/11 Report.
@ucancallmeOh Of course I am a paid disinformation agent because people can't have opinions different than you and not be evil (sounds like mental issues).
Do you know the NIST team is made up of ASCE members? So who would you choose to re-investigate?
How did you calculate free fall?
Why won't you answer as to why you won't read the NIST report yet claim you know its wrong? Same thing with Popular Mechanics?
@MrRexquando ~ Straight out of the PAID DISINFO AGENT manual: you have nothing to argue with, so move the truther's evidence off the page.
You have no argument against CD (Controlled Demolition) of WTC 7 (implosion) and WTC towers (explosions after planes hit; planes were the cover story), so you try to change the subject. But I won't let you do that.
@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
@ucancallmeOh Yes the models only go for the first 100' after that Chaos reigns and no model can show the actions of all the random falling debris which proves what?
New data is discovered like the 47 story "gash" proving more damage was inflicted than originally estimated "imageshack.u s/photo/my-images/339/wtc7gashuw2.j p g/sr=1
And you won't even read Popular mechanics to ensure you aren't being lied too?
Go ahead now call me a paid shill and ignore the evidence..
@MrRexquando ~"Yes the models only go for the first 100'.."
No, they don't. The NIST model does not go for the first 100 feet. It goes until the "initiation of collapse". And that's not because "chaos reigns", it's because NIST can't make their model jibe with the video evidence. They are liars. They will go to jail one day. They have the blood of the 3,000 and a million more on their hands, including thousands of U.S. military.
@ucancallmeOh Kind of funny you would argue what the NIST model says or doesn't say when you haven't read it!
You admitted to me you hadn't read NIST or Popular Mechanics or anything else not published by David Ray Grififn. So how could you know what NIST said? Blind sheep
You should go to jail for lying. Convincing weak minded morons that you are an expert when you don't even know the material.
@MrRexquando ~ Yes, I did. Remember, I said that even if we PRETEND that what you say is true, and that only 15 of more than 1,600 on the petition are "registered engineers" (probably an extremely narrow definition), then 15 people, 16 if we count the one you say is retired -- 16 engineers say that there is no other explanation for WTC7's collapse other than CD (Controlled Demolition).
WTC 7 was CD, therefore 9/11 was a false flag operation. Man up and admit it.
Where do you get your information from? You haven't read the NIST report but say it is lies? How stupid is that? You want people to just blindly follow you like you blindly follow David Ray Griffin?
@ucancallmeOh You never addressed this? As usual we (the real truth seekers) do all the work:
Or they are looking for publicity.
I got the list from ae911truth. o r g/signpetition.p h p
So put the bong down.
If you google the ones on "explosive evidence" you'll be surprised. Example: Steven Barasch who claims he built a hotel that was built in 1926 (as you have admitted they "fudged" their resumes) most are house builders but claim to build high-rises.
@Tricky1ish A COLLEGE DEGREE. The fact is, the 9/11 report NEVER says the steel melted. The steel was weakened to the point that it bowed, and collapsed under immense weight. you're a fuckin dumbass and should be rid of the Earth you are actually that stupid
@ae911truthcensors With all the recent questions being asked about the lies that led us to war one question is still being ignored: what does 9/11 have to do with the US invasion of Iraq? The answer is not what you have been told; the illogical claim that 9/11 changed everything and it caused the US to change the way they dealt with potential threats.
@ae911truthcensors 9/11 was the perfect excuse for the Bush/PNAC administration to proceed with their entire agenda. Take notice on how many times you have heard this phrase from the administration: “9/11 changed everything”.
@CNNFootage63 So what does this have to do with Tower 7? The only thing it does is prove you are a government hater and will justify it with anything you can conjure up.
Do you know Bush isn't in office any more? Was Bush really smart like that? So why wouldn't Obama uncover this evil plot if it is so obvious and use it to his advantage?
@ae911truthcensors It is their stock excuse for everything. They needed it; they asked for it, they closed their eyes and let it happen, and now they are benefiting from it. The Bush administration is carrying out the “crime of all time”!
Here's how you someone is either a paid disinfo agent or a brainwashed fool:
If you were to encounter information that in YOUR mind was solid evidence that the OS (Official Story) had at least one LIE (not error), would you consider the possibility that 9/11 was a false flag operation?
Let's face it, some people have an agenda which is not in the interest of the people of the U.S. It might be that it is their job to keep people from the truth, or they may have a job related to the MIC.
Steve Pieczenik, MD, PhD – Served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter and Senior Policy Planner under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush (41). Former Colonel, U.S. Army….
…he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over five hundred hostages in different terrorist episodes…
(cont’d from patriotsquestion911[dot]com) …The only people who attacked the United States was George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld...
But I didn't expect ten years later for another delusionary panderer called the President [Obama]… to continue this nonsensical story that we had been attacked by Muslims, which we hadn't been. We were attacked by our own people in a false flag operation. ...
"Paranoia and the roots of conspiracy theories" A must read for anyone who is frustrated by truth-ers odd behavior. Addresses the anger/paranoia/mistrust of authorities/etc.
psychologytoday.( c o m)/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories
@ae911truthcensors Some people believe an outlandish conspiracy theory involving 19 Arab hijackers who allegedly: commandeered four commercial jets with nothing more than their cunning, wit, resolve, hatred of America, and some box cutters; then proceed to fly these aircraft around US airspace unfettered for a total lapsed time of over an hour; on three of the planes, pulled stunning flight maneuvers beyond the capability of even expert pilots
@ae911truthcensors This is amazing, and sad. Even sadder are that there are still people who refuse to accept the truth and give these warmongers license to destroy the world for their own greed and gain. I'm appalled at the lack of support from our fellow Americans. And this Islamaphobia hatred that's roused up!
@ae911truthcensors Explain why the Gulf Of Tonkin incident didn't happen. Explain why they found extra bombs in the Alfred P. Murrah Building during the Oklahoma City Bombing of 1995. Explain how Timothy McVeigh was able to install 2 more bombs or explosive devices in the Alfred P. Murrah Building.
@Alexjones67s So this has nothing to do with tower 7 does it? Except it reaffirms how truthers think. Start with a conclusion (paranoia/mistrust of the govt./authority) then try to build a case that supports it without facts.
@ae911truthcensors Why was molten steel found in all 3 bases of the World Trade Center towers? Why couldn't NIST acknowledge the molten iron that was reported to have been found in the rubble of the World Trade Center? Even Leslie Robertson the lead enginer for the Twin Towers said that he saw molten iron at ground zero.
@CNNFootage67 Look Azars/Tricky/Hotters/whoever you are no molten steel was found. If it was why did the steel beams show no signs of temperatures that high?
So what caused the buildings to fail in your mind?
@ae911truthcensors Look MrRexquando or roquefortfiles molten steel was found at Fucking ground zero weeks after 9/11. Weeks after Fucking 9/11 molten iron was seen flowing like lava at ground zero so what the Hell are you talking about? Come on man get real! HELLO! Welcome to the real world.
@ae911truthcensors Why did the 9/11 Commission Report omit the information about the drills, making only 1 mention of them in a single footnote. The report only mentioned 1 drill, and falsely described it as a drill to defend against Russian Bombers.
@ae911truthcensors In the age of ICBMs, are we to believe that we have to practice defending the nation against Russian bombers in the north eastern portion of the US?
Why have the news media neglected to inform the public of Cheney’s actions that day?
@MrMelodia89 Mmm.. not entirely!! One needs to understand HOW the floors were important. The exterior and interior columns could not exist without the floors.
Remove one floor and its corresponding column reduces in strength by a factor of 8. Remove 2 floors and the columns strength goes down by a factor of 27. Just look at WTC 2. The entire East side of that building is a mess of bowed columns. The forces are going in every direction but where they should be.
@MrMelodia89 It is not consistent with the laws of physics.
Would you care to explain to me where the failure in physics is happening when the exterior columns snap and 31 floors of the building are left to rotate over and down (Which they did) on to floors that have a load limit rating of about 1500 tons. And the top 31 stories weighs in excess of some 180,000 tons?.
@ae911truthcensors Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time.
@ae911truthcensors Osama Bin Laden had no involvement in the attacks of 9/11. Bin Laden and the 19 hijackers were just used as a cover up to the reality that these attacks were planned by the elements of the U.S. Government here in the United States.
You keep quoting NIST. Do you think NIST is accurate?
“The TOP TEN Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites”
So how does that make any sense. You say the "OS" =NIST which of course isn't true NIST is only one player but you keep referencing their work as if it is the "gold standard".
Explain how you can reference NIST with how they prove thermite yet you say they lie?
AE911truth(dot)org
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
ucancallmeOh 4 hours ago
@ucancallmeOh Cycling right through those sock puppet accounts I see. I believe I have shown you where the 'experts' you cite are either victims of misinformation, or are just making crap up.
lijebaley01 4 hours ago
I have called you a moron, moron, and you have yet to say anything intelligent to disprove it. Mountain of evidence? Ummm, Where? All I ever get to see is the same old truther garbage, that doesn't even come from a scientist, but from a philosopher. Then there are his lackies trying to make science fit the moron's theories that only the semi-literate gullibillies will buy. Yep, yep, yep, I'm going to the zoo. morons.
lijebaley01 16 hours ago
Richard Gage looking stupid:
watch?v=DFVoencqfZw
MrRexquando 1 day ago
So let a twoofer tell you how David Griffin (Theologian/career brain washer) and Richard Gage (Architect) are smarter than major universities with 100's of engineers and PHD's.
sydney.edu. au /engineering/civil/wtc.s html (remove spaces)
civil.northwestern.ed u/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466. pdf
tms.? o rg? /pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.h tm? l
Just because the internet gives you a pulpit doesn't make you an expert.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando LMAO! Perhaps you should follow your own advice?!
Tricky1ish 1 day ago
@Tricky1ish Are you going to bring any value to this debate?
Because usually you just sit back like a jackal and mock this tragedy.
Where are my mountains of evidence? Oh right you don't have any evidence.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando Oh you silly duhbunker! Those that continue to believe the original ridiculous conspiracy theory created by Bush, are the only fools guilty of mocking this tragedy! You continuously post those links with the suggestion that they are facts. You have NO evidence other than what you have read, that suggests that there is any form of truth behind that silly story of how 19 hijackers managed to take over 4 airplanes with boxcutters and knives! Give it a rest already! *Sigh*
Tricky1ish 1 day ago
@Tricky1ish And you present less evidence that I do so what does that make you?
Blind angry sheep.
You add no value to anyone.
MrRexquando 22 hours ago
@MrRexquando Who the fuck are you calling a moron? You watch what you say to me nigga. Me and my brothers are spreading the truth my nigga! Why must you deny it? I've shown you a mountain of evidence and you still deny it. Your a paid shill. You get paid to life for the government! Admit it nigga! Admit it !
Hotters70652XTY 21 hours ago
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@Hotters70652XTY Or what moron? Your spreading lies creating more like Jared Loughner.
Why do you dodge my questions?
You have some problem with me using Richard Gage's own website to show he only has 15 Structural engineers out of 150,000 registered with ASCE that believe his fantasy? Sorry that's the truth.
Do you have any truth to show?
Funny how you call yourself a "truther" yet you don't want the truth and can never provide the truth.
MrRexquando 16 hours ago
@MrRexquando "Your spreading lies creating more like Jared Loughner." You keep bringing him up, but you apparently have no clue! Loughner's vulnerable and psychotic profile, combined with his interest in mind control, mirrors other famous assassins such as Mark David Chapman, John Hinckley, as well as Columbine killers Harris & Klebold.None of the aforementioned can be shown to have had any political ties that would have lead them to carry out their deeds of destruction. Same as JL
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@Tricky1ish So are you saying Loughner wasn't a hard core twoofer?
Anti government sentiment is what they all have in common. Have you read these comment strings? Everyone starts with 'the govt. lies and did this so they could oppress the public'
See the pattern?
MrRexquando 13 hours ago
@MrRexquando The only pattern I see is with you duhbunkers calling us paranoid, government haters, etc. You have made claims that it is because you worry about us creating another loughner? Bullcrap! That is pure lies! And you need to learn how to read or comprehend. Loughner had mental issues. I have seen many of you duhbunkers exhibit some severe mental issues too! What makes you so certain that the next guy who shoots people won't be one of your own? I would be more inclined to
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@MrRexquando believe that there are more on your side who have that type of personality. You duhbunkers are ruthless and angry. I also believe that you all exhibit paranoia more than us "truthers" do!"
As far as us "truthers" making claims that the government lies? Um... They do, and you know that they do! If you don't believe that they lie, then you are clearly an idiot in denial. If they lie to us about a few things, what else have they been lying to us about? Think about it!
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@MrRexquando So.. In reality, you are the one spreading the lies! You make an attempt to lead others like you to believe that a "truther" was responsible. When in fact, the guy clearly had some mental issues. It can be said that there are people from both sides of our "spectrum" that can carry out a deed similar to what Loughner did. I have met many people from both sides of this debate and I have found myself, on more than one occasion to be slightly frightened by your type.
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@MrRexquando Your type, and I certainly don't mean all believers of the OS. Just strictly your type, are mean, nasty, violent, angry people. You are unable to comprehend why our beliefs are so strong so your initial response is to be vulgar and rude to us. Instead of seriously trying to find out why we believe in what we do. I am not a paranoid person, nor do I have any mental illness that makes me believe what I do. But your first instinct is to always suggest that I and others
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@MrRexquando are simply nuts and that is why we believe what we do. Let's put it in a way you might understand.. Your child is shot, you didn't see the shooter. But based on what you have heard and seen initially on tv and what you feel inside your heart, you know that the man being held responsible is not truly the guilty one. You start reading different police reports and see too many lies and contradictions and your heart convinces you. You want proper justice! No more lies!
Tricky1ish 13 hours ago
@Hotters70652XTY Fuck you Ass Hole! Quit going around impersonating me. What is your problem @ravensfan2058? What is your problem? You are a moron and what these people are saying about you is the truth. Don'at act stupid with people please.
Hotters7060BX 12 hours ago
Who else finds the title confusing? Richard Gage is the Debunker. and hes tossing strawman arguments about like gay man tosses off in a public toilet
OtagoMark 2 days ago
I quit watching at 2:30 when the cute girls left
rainman1326 3 days ago
good lets keep talking so that things will not happen again
TherealCrazyO 4 days ago
Patriotsquestion911(dot)com
AE911truth(dot)org
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
ucancallmeOh 4 days ago
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@ucancallmeOh One of the most incriminating pieces of evidence against George w. Bush (that he had prior knowledge of 911) is the FACT that he just sat there on the morning of September 11th, 2001 upon hearing that America was under attack when a second airplane flew into the South Tower at 9:03 a.m.
MrMelodia89 4 days ago
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@ucancallmeOh No president would just sit idly in a chair after hearing that "AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK" unless he knew before hand what was going to happen. George W. Bush KNEW! In fact, the mountain of evidence overwhelmingly reveals that the Bush administration was instrumental in orchestrating the 911 attacks.
MrMelodia89 4 days ago
Molten steel was found but truthers just assume it was caused by thermite before it fell and totally ignore the fact that fires burned for weeks in the fallen rubble
Spindry96 5 days ago
@Spindry96 ~ Wait...hold the phone! You think it's normal or typical for fires to burn for weeks in fallen rubble? Wow...what a pathetic debunker you are.
ucancallmeOh 5 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Traditional tribes bury food under soil or sand with hot coals to cook their food this actas as an incubator. Frefighters poured water on the rubble for days. Heated metal + water causes steam and hydrogen generating a lot of additional heat and producing a corrosive reaction. The recovered steel was heavily oxidized and sulidified.
Spindry96 5 days ago
@Spindry96 ~ When the traditional tribes buried their food under soil and sand with hot coals, did it also make molten metal?
ucancallmeOh 5 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Wow what an intelligent statement, quite pathethic
Spindry96 5 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Well we all know thermite burns hot and rapidly (seconds) so it couldn't be thermite smoldering could it?
What a pathetic Twoofer you are.
MrRexquando 5 days ago
another dumb blonde.
hey blodie, grab a gun and go to bagdad . bring your wife and kids too.
48mmwatch 5 days ago
thats right you are not an engineer!
gage is.
48mmwatch 5 days ago
watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8
Amazing Speech by War Veteran
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
(Dr. Sunder explains WTC 7 at time 3:35)
ucancallmeOh 6 days ago
@ucancallmeOh I think you have your videos mixed up. No one gives any explanation at 3:35.
Here is new video of what really happened to Trade 7: watch?v=k8VAsoVuShM
Eye opening to say the least.
ae911truthcensors 6 days ago
@ae911truthcensors ~ At 3:38 the late Ed Asner introduces the topic of NIST. Then at 3:45 Dr. Sunder explains that WTC 7 went down due to "Office fires".
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
(Dr. Sunder explains WTC 7 at time 3:40)
ucancallmeOh 6 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Please reply your comment on a video called: 9/11 Coincidences (11/19)
Uploaded by: @NufffRespect2. Go there now please! We need your help!
CNNFootage63 5 days ago
@ucancallmeOh We are all commenting on this video 9/11 Coincidences (11/19) right now. We are on our way to that video. Come and join us man! This is a very big and good debate.
MrMelodia89 5 days ago
@ae911truthcensors What does the invasion of Iraq have to do with 9/11? Why did we even go to Iraq to begin with? And why did George W. Bush accuse Saddam Hussein of helping Al Qaeda with 9/11? Think about.
CNNFootage63 5 days ago
@ae911truthcensors Go to the name of this video called: 9/11 Coincidences (11/19)
Uploaded by: @NufffRespect2
CNNFootage63 5 days ago
@ae911truthcensors What about the 2 other bombs that were found in the Alfred P. Murrah Building during the Oklahoma City 1995 Bombing? Explain that Ass Hole! How the Hell did Timothy McVeigh plant those 2 other explosive devices inside of the Murrah Building prior to the bombing?
Alexjones67s 5 days ago
@Alexjones67s Where do you get your information? There were no other bombs found.
Besides they used NANO-Thermite NOT BOMBS. Don't you know anything your paid dis-informant troll.
ae911truthcensors 5 days ago
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@ae911truthcensors Much has been learned about the attacks, yet the official version has never changed; it seems as though our government thinks the point moot since it used this excuse to pass unconstitutional laws and wage wars resulting in oil profits. The time has come to admit the sorry truth as a nation, so that we can move on - as a nation
MrMelodia89 4 days ago
ha the debunking director. what a joke.
bobbygoesbig 6 days ago
@bobbygoesbig Same joke as an architect knowing anything about building collapse or airplane crashes or fires.
At least the history teacher has his historical facts right about tower 7.
ae911truthcensors 6 days ago
man conspiracy theorists suck so much dick their brains are touched. This old fucking man on this video doesn't know his head from his ass. you can't compare a building to a fucking brick if he knew anything about physics. Did you know that none of the 150 000 architects/enginners that support the conspiracy have a college degree?? HMMM
MrLostinLine 6 days ago
@MrLostinLine Where did you hear that obvious lie from? The government or some idiot on youtube trying to keep you from believing in the REAL truth of 9/11? I mean, seriously? Do you hear yourself? My ten year-old can even see that your statement is ridiculous! Good Grief!
Tricky1ish 6 days ago
@Tricky1ish Huge fight on the video 9/11 Coincidences 11 19 uploaded by a user named Nuffrespect2. Go there right now man and see this debate! This is the best debate ever.
superhero6734100 5 days ago
@Tricky1ish Dude you're the fuckin idiot. It's a well known fact that the 3 creators of "Loose Change". the most watched video on youtube and biggest reason that you fuckin retards think 9/11 was a conspiracy, is made by 3 of the dumbest people on the planet. All of which are making money off of their lies, and your stupidity. None of which have a college degree. NONE of the 150 000 "structural engineers" who "claim" that there is no way a plane took down one building let alone two, have
MrLostinLine 5 days ago
@MrLostinLine A COLLEGE DEGREE. The fact is, the 9/11 report NEVER says the steel melted. The steel was weakened to the point that it bowed, and collapsed under immense weight. you're a fuckin dumbass and should be rid of the Earth you are actually that stupid
MrLostinLine 5 days ago
@MrLostinLine I have to question the type of person who uses a lot of profanity to someone he has never talked to before just to get his insane point across, and also uses the words "fact" and "youtube" in the same sentence! Just so you know, to become a Structual Engineer you must receive a BS Degree(Bachelor of Science) which requires the minimum of 5 years of College! And this is the lowest form. There are higher requirements for higher forms! I can see why you are "LOSTINLINE"
Tricky1ish 5 days ago
@Tricky1ish ya exactly i'm saying they aren't engineers. And i swear because you disgust me. You and all you other fuckin rodents that are scumming up the earth with your fear mongering. I never used fact and youtube in the same sentence..but the starters of your "truth" movement sure did!
MrLostinLine 5 days ago
@MrLostinLine Sorry dude, but you are an outright liar! Give some proof that none of them have College degrees! And no youtube "proof"! Give me at least 10 of their names and I will key it up tomorrow at work and prove that they do indeed have College degrees.
I think what you meant to claim was that YOU don't have a college degree, I would imagine by your comments that you probably never even graduated from highschool. perhaps not even 8th grade!
Tricky1ish 5 days ago
@Tricky1ish First of all. I have a University degree in political science. I just love to swear at ignorant twats like you. Go to debunking9/11 . com Do some research. Come back to reality you dumb fuck.
MrLostinLine 5 days ago
@Tricky1ish Tricky's game to go out and prove a bunch of things. She has done this with so many.
Just ask her for some proof of her own or evidence.
MrRexquando 5 days ago
@MrLostinLine Dillon couldn't get accepted into film school and was convicted of deserting from the army. Rowe got busted for heroin. Yes these are the "experts" twisting the minds of morons.
Then Richard Gage's army of architects/engineers of which only 16 are engineers out of 140,000 registered. Most of the 16 completely lied on their "high rise" accomplishments and are actually house builders.
Its all a big joke.
MrRexquando 5 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ You are a liar! There is no way in hell that only 16 people out of the more than 1,600 architects and engineers are legitimate engineers. What a piece of garbage liar you are!
ucancallmeOh 5 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Prove me wrong.. should be easy.
You are a brain damaged sheep. Keep calling me names and see what happens..
MrRexquando 4 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ I just let your comment sit there for a while unanswered because it's so childish. You are the one making the accusation that only 16 people listed in the AE911truth(dot)org petition, architect and engineer section, are "registered", the burden of proof is on you.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
WTC7 was a Controlled Demolition. This is grounds for a court case of a false flag attack that murdered 3,000 and 1,000,000 innocent iraqis.
ucancallmeOh 4 days ago
MrRexquando 3 days ago
@ucancallmeOh So 15 (1 was retired)
Out of 140,000 What does that tell you.
"This is grounds for a court case" so actually courts want something called EVIDENCE. Since you can't every provide any this will stay in fantasy land.
Like most commenting your so ignorant to the facts. You should have said innocent in Afghanistan not Iraqis. Iraq wasn't about 911. Further proving you are a psycho nut job govt. hater with no concern about the truth or 911.
MrRexquando 3 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ Some of the engineers on this video are not listed on your "registered" list. This is nonsense. Are you saying they are frauds? You do realize that professionals who stand up for truth are extremely courageous because they are totally screwing themselves as far as employment goes? That's not because they are nuts, that's because most people look out for their self interests e.g. contracts.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
ucancallmeOh 3 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Or they are looking for publicity.
I got the list from ae911truth. o r g/signpetition.p h p
So put the bong down.
If you google the ones on "explosive evidence" you'll be surprised. Example: Steven Barasch who claims he built a hotel that was built in 1926 (as you have admitted they "fudged" their resumes) most are house builders but claim to build high-rises.
Courageous? And you called me a liar.
Your turn for evidence presentation.
MrRexquando 3 days ago
@MrRexquando EastSide Nuthoods Crip Bitch My Nigga! Why are you causing trouble on here? How can you defend mass murders my nigga! Your not right my nigga, if your not going to tell the truth, then shut the hell up nigga!
Hotters70652XTY 3 days ago
@Hotters70652XTY What wasn't the truth EastSide Douche Bag?
You have some problem with me using Richard Gage's own website to show he only has 15 Structural engineers out of 150,000 registered with ASCE that believe his fantasy? Sorry that's the truth.
Do you have any truth to show?
Funny how you call yourself a "truther" yet you don't want the truth and can never provide the truth.
MrRexquando 3 days ago
@MrRexquando Who are you calling a Douche bag bitch? Who do you think your talking to? You don't fucking tell me what to do nigga! You understand me. Your a punk ass bitch. Don't mess with me man!, Don't Do that.
Why do you deny my truth? Why?
Hotters70652XTY 2 days ago
@Hotters70652XTY I don't deny your truth.. Because you never present anything!
"Don't mess with me" really? Why? What are you going to do you cowardly little girl?
You bring no value to this tragedy.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando Bitch Fuck You! Who the fuck do you think your talking to like that? Me and my brothers, we have shown you a mountain of evidence so what the hell are you talking about? You need to stop dude, your not right. learn english, nigga!
Hotters70652XTY 2 days ago
@Hotters70652XTY You have multiple personalities and multiple IDs. So its so easy to take your serious.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando EastSide Nuthoods Crip Bitch My Nigga! Fuck you. Me and my brothers are different people you son of a bitch nigga! Who do you think your talking to like that? I make alot of money and I'm very professional my nigga. Learn the truth my nigga!
Hotters70652XTY 2 days ago
@Hotters70652XTY Yes because people who are rich and educated rant on with racial slurs.
You are a shining example of humanity for sure.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando Nigga! I'm smarter than you will ever be. You suck up to the government. You can't think for yourself can you my nigga? I know it's hard but the truth will set you free my nigga. When Will you see some light to the truth my nigga?
Hotters70652XTY 1 day ago
@Hotters70652XTY Yes of course you are smarter.. That is why all of society believes you and your fantasy of what happened on 911. Your so schmart :)
A shining example of how smart the twoofer movement is.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando The Twin Towers Fell in 10 seconds with out any resitance. How do you explain that? Why were explosions heard?
Answers my nigga! Answers!
Hotters70652XTY 1 day ago
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MrRexquando 1 day ago
@Hotters70652XTY watch?v=bpHLC6yGqpI
Hear any explosions?
MrRexquando 1 day ago
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@Hotters70652XTY Answer me:
Where is the evidence of controlled demolition? You never provide it. How did you measure the "free fall" as no one could see the side of the building that was damaged by WTC1?
Are you basing your belief on this video? watch?v=k8VAsoVuShM
No one heard explosions
No one saw explosions
No evidence of explosions was found
watch?v=WnYBX6QT0R4 fire fighters state the cause but you won't listen.
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You look pretty silly dude.
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MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that 16 engineers (a retired engineer counts) say that the only way that WTC 7 falls into its own footprint, traveling at free fall for 100 feet, is if all the steel beams are severed at once. This does not fit with the NIST partial model, that only goes to "the initiation of collapse" and which they won't share.
WTC 7 and WTC towers were controlled demolition. The 16 engineers can prove it in court. So, you still FAIL!
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Let's just say for the sake of argument that the 15 current engineers were no where near the investigation to even guess at the data (FACT).
So what did they base their blue couch side summaries on in Gage's video?
However 150 engineers belonging to ASCE were involved in the investigation and did have access to materials and data (you have access too). I have provided you there names in the past. They are available for interviews!
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh You go back and forth. Sometimes you say the NIST report is correct and sometimes it isn't. Which is it? If their report is wrong it in no way proves any other theory is correct. Its called science look into it.
NIST Shared all their work (FACT).
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Most important question:
Have you actually read the NIST report?
Popular Mechanics?
MIT summary?
Univ Sydney summary?
You haven't read any of them (you admitted this). So all you know is what Griffin feeds you.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ How can I claim that the NIST report is correct if you say that I claim to never have read it? I never said that the NIST report is correct. This is just one more instance of you misquoting me.
Popular Mechanics = debunked.
Universities need gov't funding through grants to get the big bucks, so they have to sell-out and tow the line.
Patriotsquestion911(dot)com has former CIA, FBI, and military officers, as well as firefighters, family of victims, AND university professors.
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh And assholes like Alex Jones have to "sell-out" and "tow the line" so people will still tune into their shows. If he doesn't claim conspiracies, he has no show. 99.99% of architects and engineers DISAGREE with A&E for 9/11 Truth. Wouldn't that make it a consensus that Richard Gage is wrong?
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ If it weren't for Alex Jones, a lot of great patriots would not get any air time at all because the MSM (mainstream media) is owned by multi-national corporations who put profit above people. The debunkers, paid and unpaid, always try to make character assassinations against people who threaten their profit or their belief system.
WTC 7 was CD (Controlled Demolition). You can't argue against that, so you desperately try to veer off-topic.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
AE-- WTC 7
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Did you not see the other side of WTC7? With all the smoke billowing out? As the old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire. What about the many, many quotes from firefighters saying the building had fires on almost every floor? If it was a controlled demolition, then why did FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro pull the firefighters out of the area a full TWO HOURS before it collapsed? Was Nigro and the FDNY "in on it?"
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ No, I don't know of anyone in the 9/11 Truth Movement who is accusing any firefighter of any wrongdoing, whatsoever. Let's be crystal clear on that.
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC 7 Freefall by David Chandler
There was a debunker, I don't remember which, who said 'Watch this video, you'll see how the fire raged on and there was no water suppression.' I watched it. There was 20 seconds of inferno, then the fire subsided dramatically. If you have a better video, please show it.
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh I trust the firefighters who were actually there and not a video that will show you only one side of the building, like most conspiracy videos do. The building was an inferno inside. FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi said “We were looking at two large bodies of fire that neither of us in our 33-year careers had ever seen anything that enormous...I didn’t think we would come out of this unscathed at all. It was just too enormous” Do you feel he's lying?
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
Do you believe Chief Turi regarding his belief that secondary devices were going off in the WTC 1?
"I was convinced for a week it was secondary devices."
This quote is from Patriotsquestion911(dot)com,
section:300+ Survivors and Family Members, scroll down to the blue background section. There are quotes from firefighters there.
We must use the hard evidence and the statements from experts and witnesses, including Barry Jennings (scroll down from Chief Turi's statement)
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh That quote is actually from Timothy Julian of Ladder 118. And even though it's falsely attributed to someone else, what does it prove? He thought it was a secondary explosion and then someone probably explained what it really was. You talk about using the hard evidence, but you failed to address the fact that multiple firefighters reported fires on almost every floor of WTC7. Were there fires or were there not? Are they lying? Address that, please.
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ WTC7 came down at 5:20pm. 6 million people live in New York City and there were reporters there out the ass, where is the video footage of a PROLONGED inferno? I haven't seen it.
I have read witness accounts of explosions, however.
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh So FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi, FDNY Captain Jay Jones, Ground Zero Superintendent Charlie Vitchers, FDNY Deputy Chief Nick Visconti and FDNY Captain Robert Sohmer (among many, many more witnesses) who all said to some degree that WTC7 was fully engulfed are lying because there was no video EVEN THOUGH FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro closed off the area because he and his crew KNEW it was going to collapse due to the fires and it's titling? Look at the smoke billowing out.
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ Were they "lying" about the explosions? C'mon! You're playing games here. You don't believe their testimony about explosions, but you do believe their testimony about the extent of WTC 7 fires?
BTW, can you provide me a source for those quotes? It's not that I don't believe you -- I do believe you. I would just like to see them in context.
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh They thought there were explosions until somebody probably told them they weren't, just like the quote you provided. He THOUGHT they were explosions. That's called "past tense" which means he used to think before he was properly informed. My sources are from Mark Robert's work. Google "FDNY & other WTC First Responders, Corporate Response, Volunteers" And that should direct you to tons of eyewitness reports. It's ok to admit you're wrong after viewing his website and links.
brassbonanza97 2 days ago
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@ucancallmeOh Planes were sent to the New York area, after unprecedented delay, from Falmouth, Massachusetts rather than nearby Ft. Dix or LaGuardia. Of course, they didn’t arrive in time - there was no visual scan of the cockpits.
MrMelodia89 2 days ago
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@ucancallmeOh Any time an aircraft deviates from it’s course, the air traffic controller requests a military intercept according to military response code 7610-4J. This was the first time interceptors were not sent up in the history of this policy. The intercept pilots are trained to make a visual check of the cockpit… could this be the reason these interceptors were intercepted? Debunkers are stupid.
MrMelodia89 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Here's your quote: watch?v=WnYBX6QT0R4
In context.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ I asked brassbonanza97 for a video of WTC7 as an inferno, for a protracted period of time. He obviously could not produce it. You previously provided a video of an inferno-- that lasted all of 20 seconds then subsided significantly.
In the video you present here, you have ONE firefighter saying the building is going to go... Okay, but how do you explain free-fall for 100 feet? Symmetrical collapse?
SCIENCE:
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC 7 Freefall by David Chandler
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh So one by one I destroy the pillars of your belief. You don't see the pattern?
So we go on to David Chandler "probably divided by 2 instead of multiplying by 2 inside the radical. I probably shouldn't do these things in my head. "
"upload.wikimedia.o rg/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Wtc7_collapse_progression.p ng"
How did you calculate free fall as the majority of the damage AND the location of the initial collapse were hidden from view?
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando ~~ When I quote from Wikipedia debunkers claim that it is not a reliable source, but when debunkers quote from it, that's okay? Typical for you, MrRexquando. I will never believe your denial of being a paid disinformation agent.
Let's have an HONEST investigation -- then you can explain to the court Mr. Chandler's faulty math. Let's remember: NIST is under the Chamber of Commerce. Zelikow from the Chamber gave us the Official 9/11 Report.
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC7 Freefall
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh Of course I am a paid disinformation agent because people can't have opinions different than you and not be evil (sounds like mental issues).
Do you know the NIST team is made up of ASCE members? So who would you choose to re-investigate?
How did you calculate free fall?
Why won't you answer as to why you won't read the NIST report yet claim you know its wrong? Same thing with Popular Mechanics?
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh
So you never answered all my work proving Chandler only has 15 engineers out of 150,000?
It was your turn to provide some evidence but you suddenly moved on so I could waste my time destroying another of your feeble fantasy pillars.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@MrRexquando ~ Straight out of the PAID DISINFO AGENT manual: you have nothing to argue with, so move the truther's evidence off the page.
You have no argument against CD (Controlled Demolition) of WTC 7 (implosion) and WTC towers (explosions after planes hit; planes were the cover story), so you try to change the subject. But I won't let you do that.
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC 7 Freefall by David Chandler
ucancallmeOh 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh So you are going to just ignore my questions aren't you.
You have no argument for CD. This isn't about proving the "OS" is wrong this is about proving your (insert theory of the day) is correct.
So go ahead say MIT got it wrong. but based on what evidence?
And answer this: How can you with a straight face say day-after-day that the "OS" NIST account is wrong when you admitted you NEVER READ IT?
Your house of cards collapsed. Straight down in its own footprint
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando ~ I don't need to read the NIST report for the following reasons:
The researchers of the 9/11 Truth Movement have read it and have argued against it. I understand what they are saying:
a) NIST did not look for explosives in WTC dust
b) NIST WTC 7 computer model only goes to initiation of collapse, avoiding free fall for 100 feet and symmetrical fall into footprint
c) NIST spokesman states WTC 7 came down due to "normal office fires"
You don't believe NIST re WTC 7, yourself!
ucancallmeOh 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh Seriously just keep believe what your "experts" shove down your throat and don't think for yourself. That makes sense.
15 engineers is all he could convince out of 150,000.
If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?
And you said it was thermite not explosives or missiles right?
True I don't agree 100% with NIST.
watch?v=-UuXFHoX9oQ 6:37 you can see it it didn't fall in its own footprint
I investigate/research all kinds of sources.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
MarshallLore 1 day ago
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@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
MarshallLore 1 day ago
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@MrRexquando "If you get in a car crash are you going to search for explosives?"
no of course you are not but seeing as WTC was bombed in 1993 and some witnesses and video footage report hearing explosions you would think that they might want to test for explosives
MarshallLore 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh Yes the models only go for the first 100' after that Chaos reigns and no model can show the actions of all the random falling debris which proves what?
New data is discovered like the 47 story "gash" proving more damage was inflicted than originally estimated "imageshack.u s/photo/my-images/339/wtc7gashuw2.j p g/sr=1
And you won't even read Popular mechanics to ensure you aren't being lied too?
Go ahead now call me a paid shill and ignore the evidence..
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando ~"Yes the models only go for the first 100'.."
No, they don't. The NIST model does not go for the first 100 feet. It goes until the "initiation of collapse". And that's not because "chaos reigns", it's because NIST can't make their model jibe with the video evidence. They are liars. They will go to jail one day. They have the blood of the 3,000 and a million more on their hands, including thousands of U.S. military.
ucancallmeOh 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh Kind of funny you would argue what the NIST model says or doesn't say when you haven't read it!
You admitted to me you hadn't read NIST or Popular Mechanics or anything else not published by David Ray Grififn. So how could you know what NIST said? Blind sheep
You should go to jail for lying. Convincing weak minded morons that you are an expert when you don't even know the material.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando ~ Thanks to you I've read a lot more since I stated that I read only Debunking 9/11 Debunking by DRG, and many of the statements on:
patritosquestion911(dot)com
Thanks to you, I've read many papers and articles from the researchers on
AE911truth(dot)org
"Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction" by Steven E. Jones et al.
(Google the title-- that's the easiest way to find it)
ucancallmeOh 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh So staying with only twoofer sites.
And still you don't see the hypocrisy proclaiming the NIST report is all lies yet you won't read it?
Steven Jones has moved on to "America created the earthquake in Haiti" so your reference to him isn't relevant any more.
And lets not forget your journey started with hatred of the govt. not discovery of evidence.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh You never answer about Richard Gage's only having 15 engineers out of 150,000 registered.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
@MrRexquando ~ Yes, I did. Remember, I said that even if we PRETEND that what you say is true, and that only 15 of more than 1,600 on the petition are "registered engineers" (probably an extremely narrow definition), then 15 people, 16 if we count the one you say is retired -- 16 engineers say that there is no other explanation for WTC7's collapse other than CD (Controlled Demolition).
WTC 7 was CD, therefore 9/11 was a false flag operation. Man up and admit it.
9/11 TRUTH -->. 9/11 JUSTICE!
ucancallmeOh 1 day ago
@ucancallmeOh LoL yes of course. And thus mock the 150,000 registered engineers who think this conspiracy fantasy is a joke?
You know over 150 ASCE registered Structural Engineers were the ones who built the summary in the NIST report? Do you want their contact info?
16 out of 150,000 doesn't tell you anything? .0106% Talk about extremely narrow.
Is CD the same as thermite? Because you nor anyone else has been able to prove CD is even possible with thermite.
MrRexquando 1 day ago
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@MrRexquando ~ Same old MrRexquando, doing the same tricks...
"Because you nor anyone else has been able to prove CD is even possible with thermite."
It wasn't thermite, it was nano-thermite. You need to learn the difference.
You really suck at this debunking stuff. I hope this isn't coming from my tax money to pay your salary to keep people from the Truth.
ucancallmeOh 20 hours ago
@ucancallmeOh So you understand this huge fire and building collapse right? And in big fires sometimes things other than bombs blow up/go boom right?
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh It was demolition based on what?
Where do you get your information from? You haven't read the NIST report but say it is lies? How stupid is that? You want people to just blindly follow you like you blindly follow David Ray Griffin?
MrRexquando 2 days ago
@ucancallmeOh So admit you have never read anything except trwoofer site disinformation.
Admit you only listen to David Ray Griffin like some brainwashed zombie.
Did you read Popular Mechanics=NO so how can you say it was debunked?
How can you comment like your some kind of expert when you have only read information one group. You are pathetic.
MrRexquando 2 days ago
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CNNFootage62 3 days ago in playlist 9/11 Debunkers getting owned
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@ucancallmeOh You never addressed this? As usual we (the real truth seekers) do all the work:
Or they are looking for publicity.
I got the list from ae911truth. o r g/signpetition.p h p
So put the bong down.
If you google the ones on "explosive evidence" you'll be surprised. Example: Steven Barasch who claims he built a hotel that was built in 1926 (as you have admitted they "fudged" their resumes) most are house builders but claim to build high-rises.
Prove me wrong!
MrRexquando 2 days ago
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@Tricky1ish A COLLEGE DEGREE. The fact is, the 9/11 report NEVER says the steel melted. The steel was weakened to the point that it bowed, and collapsed under immense weight. you're a fuckin dumbass and should be rid of the Earth you are actually that stupid
MrLostinLine 5 days ago
dailykos.co m/story/2011/09/11/1015922/-TRUTHERS-and-OTHER-PARANOIACS;-A-Brief-Explanation-of-the-Psychology-of-Conspiracy-Theorists
Explains a lot about truthers
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors With all the recent questions being asked about the lies that led us to war one question is still being ignored: what does 9/11 have to do with the US invasion of Iraq? The answer is not what you have been told; the illogical claim that 9/11 changed everything and it caused the US to change the way they dealt with potential threats.
CNNFootage63 6 days ago
@CNNFootage63 Really? You just quote other websites?
tvnewslies.o rg/blog/?p=181
"With all the recent questions being asked about the lies that led us to war one question is still being ignored: what does 9/11 have to.. bla bla"
You have issues:
psychologytoday.co m/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories
You have no idea why you believe this crap do you?
ae911truthcensors 6 days ago
@ae911truthcensors 9/11 was the perfect excuse for the Bush/PNAC administration to proceed with their entire agenda. Take notice on how many times you have heard this phrase from the administration: “9/11 changed everything”.
CNNFootage63 6 days ago
@CNNFootage63 So what does this have to do with Tower 7? The only thing it does is prove you are a government hater and will justify it with anything you can conjure up.
Do you know Bush isn't in office any more? Was Bush really smart like that? So why wouldn't Obama uncover this evil plot if it is so obvious and use it to his advantage?
This plot of yours doesn't make any sense.
ae911truthcensors 6 days ago
@ae911truthcensors It is their stock excuse for everything. They needed it; they asked for it, they closed their eyes and let it happen, and now they are benefiting from it. The Bush administration is carrying out the “crime of all time”!
CNNFootage63 6 days ago
@CNNFootage63 Do you know Bush hasn't been president for 3 years right? They aren't "carrying" anything any more. Wake up sheep..
ae911truthcensors 6 days ago
But controled demolition makes A SHITLOAD OF NOISE ive seen one so i dont think that it was controled demolition
TeaPea102938 1 week ago 2
Here's how you someone is either a paid disinfo agent or a brainwashed fool:
If you were to encounter information that in YOUR mind was solid evidence that the OS (Official Story) had at least one LIE (not error), would you consider the possibility that 9/11 was a false flag operation?
Let's face it, some people have an agenda which is not in the interest of the people of the U.S. It might be that it is their job to keep people from the truth, or they may have a job related to the MIC.
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
from Patriotsquestion911(dot)com
Steve Pieczenik, MD, PhD – Served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter and Senior Policy Planner under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush (41). Former Colonel, U.S. Army….
…he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over five hundred hostages in different terrorist episodes…
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
(cont’d from patriotsquestion911[dot]com) …The only people who attacked the United States was George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld...
But I didn't expect ten years later for another delusionary panderer called the President [Obama]… to continue this nonsensical story that we had been attacked by Muslims, which we hadn't been. We were attacked by our own people in a false flag operation. ...
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
"Paranoia and the roots of conspiracy theories" A must read for anyone who is frustrated by truth-ers odd behavior. Addresses the anger/paranoia/mistrust of authorities/etc.
psychologytoday.( c o m)/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Some people believe an outlandish conspiracy theory involving 19 Arab hijackers who allegedly: commandeered four commercial jets with nothing more than their cunning, wit, resolve, hatred of America, and some box cutters; then proceed to fly these aircraft around US airspace unfettered for a total lapsed time of over an hour; on three of the planes, pulled stunning flight maneuvers beyond the capability of even expert pilots
Alexjones67s 1 week ago
@Alexjones67s Yes except those are backed by thousands fact points. How many fact points support your fairy-tail?
Who attacked the towers in 1993?
Who attacked the USS Cole?
Who attacked Khobar towers?
How many times has a civil airliner been used as a weapon?
Do you have anything?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
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@ae911truthcensors This is amazing, and sad. Even sadder are that there are still people who refuse to accept the truth and give these warmongers license to destroy the world for their own greed and gain. I'm appalled at the lack of support from our fellow Americans. And this Islamaphobia hatred that's roused up!
superhero6734100 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Explain why the Gulf Of Tonkin incident didn't happen. Explain why they found extra bombs in the Alfred P. Murrah Building during the Oklahoma City Bombing of 1995. Explain how Timothy McVeigh was able to install 2 more bombs or explosive devices in the Alfred P. Murrah Building.
Alexjones67s 1 week ago
@Alexjones67s So this has nothing to do with tower 7 does it? Except it reaffirms how truthers think. Start with a conclusion (paranoia/mistrust of the govt./authority) then try to build a case that supports it without facts.
psychologytoday.co m/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories
Fits like a glove. Versus how normal people start with evidence and build a case around the facts.
Did Apollo 11 land on the moon?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Why was molten steel found in all 3 bases of the World Trade Center towers? Why couldn't NIST acknowledge the molten iron that was reported to have been found in the rubble of the World Trade Center? Even Leslie Robertson the lead enginer for the Twin Towers said that he saw molten iron at ground zero.
CNNFootage67 1 week ago
@CNNFootage67 Look Azars/Tricky/Hotters/whoever you are no molten steel was found. If it was why did the steel beams show no signs of temperatures that high?
So what caused the buildings to fail in your mind?
1. Planes with missiles?
2. Thermite/nanothermite?
3. Demolition charges?
4. Dustification beams?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Look MrRexquando or roquefortfiles molten steel was found at Fucking ground zero weeks after 9/11. Weeks after Fucking 9/11 molten iron was seen flowing like lava at ground zero so what the Hell are you talking about? Come on man get real! HELLO! Welcome to the real world.
CNNFootage67 1 week ago
@CNNFootage67 So funny Azar/Hotters/Tricky1ish how you can have 10 IDs but still can't make a point without insulting and 4-letter words.
So show me this molten steel.
How did the towers come down?
PODs/missiles
Thermite
Explosives
Jet fuel/airplane crash damage/office fires
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Why did the 9/11 Commission Report omit the information about the drills, making only 1 mention of them in a single footnote. The report only mentioned 1 drill, and falsely described it as a drill to defend against Russian Bombers.
CNNFootage67 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors In the age of ICBMs, are we to believe that we have to practice defending the nation against Russian bombers in the north eastern portion of the US?
Why have the news media neglected to inform the public of Cheney’s actions that day?
CNNFootage67 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Later endorsed by FEMA, It holds that the fires weakened flimsy trusses
supporting the floors, causing the floors to fall on one another in a chain-reaction.
MrMelodia89 1 week ago
@MrMelodia89 Mmm.. not entirely!! One needs to understand HOW the floors were important. The exterior and interior columns could not exist without the floors.
Remove one floor and its corresponding column reduces in strength by a factor of 8. Remove 2 floors and the columns strength goes down by a factor of 27. Just look at WTC 2. The entire East side of that building is a mess of bowed columns. The forces are going in every direction but where they should be.
roquefortfiles 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors This document examines fallacies in the official explanation:
It is not consistent with the laws of physics.
Its collapse scenario doesn’t look anything like the events we witnessed.
It misrepresents engineering practices and the Twin Towers’ design.
It was uninformed by any forensic analysis of the physical evidence.
MrMelodia89 1 week ago
@MrMelodia89 It is not consistent with the laws of physics.
Would you care to explain to me where the failure in physics is happening when the exterior columns snap and 31 floors of the building are left to rotate over and down (Which they did) on to floors that have a load limit rating of about 1500 tons. And the top 31 stories weighs in excess of some 180,000 tons?.
Where are the laws of physics not consistent?
I would say they are ENTIRELY consistent.
roquefortfiles 1 week ago
@MrMelodia89 So this looks like you copied this from a truth-er site. What document?
Did you read that this was far the from the first steel building to collapse from fires?
What physics laws were broken?
What engineering practices were misrepresent?
"It was uninformed by any forensic analysis of the physical evidence." this one doesn't even make sense?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time.
CNNFootage63 1 week ago
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@CNNFootage63 So you are saying Dick Cheney is an really smart? Why did you avoid my questions?
So what caused the buildings to fail in your mind?
1. Planes with missiles?
2. Thermite/nanothermite?
3. Demolition charges?
4. Dustification beams?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@ae911truthcensors If WTC towers 1 and 2 and WTC 7 collapsed because of the fires it would be the first
time in history that a steel-frame skyscraper totally collapsed because of fires or any
other cause or combination of causes other than controlled demolition.
MrMelodia89 1 week ago
@MrMelodia89 Actually there is a whole bunch of steel structures that have collapsed from fires alone.
usfa.fema.g ov/downloads/pdf/publications/tr-135.p df
This school collapsed in 20 minutes from fire.
You have been listening to liars far too long. Time to grow up.
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
@Alexjones67s Funny how you dodged my queries
Who attacked the towers in 1993?
Who attacked the USS Cole?
Who attacked Khobar towers?
How many times has a civil airliner been used as a weapon?
Do you have anything?
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
watch?v=trfCyvLAQd8
Psychologists Help 9/11 Truth Deniers
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
light reading on why truthers are the way they are. Funny how all the behaviors fit this model pretty well:
dailykos.co m/story/2011/09/11/1015922/-TRUTHERS-and-OTHER-PARANOIACS;-A-Brief-Explanation-of-the-Psychology-of-Conspiracy-Theorists
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
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@ae911truthcensors Osama Bin Laden had no involvement in the attacks of 9/11. Bin Laden and the 19 hijackers were just used as a cover up to the reality that these attacks were planned by the elements of the U.S. Government here in the United States.
superhero6734100 1 week ago
watch?v=uDnhBIuNzSU
Military Officers for 9/11 Truth
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
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@ucancallmeOh Why don't you answer me?
You keep quoting NIST. Do you think NIST is accurate?
“The TOP TEN Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites”
So how does that make any sense. You say the "OS" =NIST which of course isn't true NIST is only one player but you keep referencing their work as if it is the "gold standard".
Explain how you can reference NIST with how they prove thermite yet you say they lie?
That isn't logical.
ae911truthcensors 1 week ago
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Paid disinfo agents say things like "provide proof/evidence that backs up your fairy-tail
If you can't then you are just spreading rumors with no factual basis" but they don't really want the truth.
They know the truth. They get paid to lie to the American people. They are a disgrace to the country and the human race.
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
watch?v=x3zmEnwfc5s
9/11 Fireman Testimonials of Explosions
ucancallmeOh 1 week ago
Fuck Truthers. They are dumb shits.
ravensfan20582 1 week ago
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ravensfan20582 1 week ago
This idiot is a history teacher? No wonder we're a mess.
37Dionysos 2 weeks ago
EASTSIDE NUTHOODS CRIP BITCH MY NIGGA!