@cardboardodyssey if you're bad at aiming like wind is, and you use wrangler, it's pretty good, the main aim with it is to knock uber off medics. but both weapons are bad compared to the normal shotgun when playing offensive engineer, if you like to be able to get close to the enemy and be able to fight them. it means you have the better odds against a scout etc.
@sildura2 All the song names are written in the bottom-right corner of the screen when they start playing. Additionally, all songs used in this video are listed in the credits, at the end of part 2.
i can steal intel thanks to the offensive engineerin'!i take the intel and while retreatin',i drop sentries and this buys me valuable time.GO GUNSLINGER!
Personally, I don't see the purpose of playing as this style of Engineer. You're not building dispensers nor upgrading teleporters. There are classes better at killing people than an Engineer with a Gunslinger. Although I can respect this style.
I think setting up a teleporter near the front and putting a normal sentry behind the teleporter is a more effective and useful way to play the class.
Anyways, excellent video - the production quality is amazing!
The guide is great, but I strongly diagree with using the wrangler along with the gunslinger. You're pistol is the most important weapon when it comes to gunslinger and frontier justice, as it can help you gain the kills you're sentry needs to get those juicy revenge crits.
Its Kind Of Amazing How Many People Go For A Mini Sentry That Is Being Built And They Think 27 Damage From A Mini Sentry Is A Lot When They Could Take Shotgun Hit To The Face
i prefer the widowmaker/pistol/gunslinger setup. i find that my mini-sentries often only harass and assist me in getting kills. rarely does it get enough kills for a useable amount of revenge crits. offensive engies usually have a lot of metal (requires map knowledge for ammo pack locations) so i use the widowmaker cuz im a pretty good shot with it. (it seems like it does more damage and has a tighter cone of fire) i use pistol if i run out of widowmaker ammo. (obviously if i use a wrangler wit
@TheMeltedskul iphone let me type my comment, but youtube cut off the rest of it. -_- btw widowmaker got buffed, takes away only 30 metal now so it's well balanced.
you are very offensive with your sentries...typically I sit them in a corner and I "aggro" my prey and kinda lure them back into the firing line of my sentry so it just eats away at them...get lots of assits/kills when they don't know its there.
Excellent guide, certainly helped me out. Just a question, though. Obviously the gameplay and video is old, but do you think the new Engie shotgun, the Widowmaker, is any good for offensive engineering? or any engineering?
@xhunter143 I'd only use both of the new Deus Ex weapons defensively. They both require a steady supply of metal, which you would probably better spend on minisentries
@WindyPower Although that sounds right i'd like to open an contrast to your statement. the widow maker does more damage than the other two shotguns. so you get your money's worth unlike the frontier justice which only gets a critical if your sentry gets a kill and destroyed. i tend to continuously get kills with my sentry while im getting stock pile so it seems ok to us eif you always have a reserve 100 for a mini sentry hope it helped.
Seeing as though gunslinger engie is apparently a TF2 god when played right, do I suck if I got second in team during my second ever gunslinger outing instead of best?
Your guide was one of the things that inspired me to try the engineer out. I used to view engis solely as largely immobile prey, or pests at best - but these days I'm having fun dropping sneaky teleports in dark corners of enemy bases, and dropping sentries (mini- and otherwise) in tricky locations to shoot scouts out of the air. Mobile, thinking engineer is kredit to team!
The problem is when no one bothers to check on your buildings when you go hunting metal. Hard to turn the tide as engi :(.
@WindyPower Well, cars don't have genders (unlike in the movie), and some call their cars "she" or "her," so is it out of the question to dub a sentry by that following that logic?
@WindyPower Your guide spurred me out of the 3 minute long tradition of classic denfending. I love your guide. Just wondering, I tried doing this in arena but it kinda stops working when it blows up. I can pick up more metal sure but by then I'm kinda useless after a 2nd sentry gun. Is there any good way to counter a couple of no good pyros/scouts/Demomen/Soldier/heavies? I would love to distract them while shooting them but they chew through metal quickly and a pistol ain't as big of a weapon.
@Chococlass33 I rarely play arena so I can't really tell, but really, if you're playing as Engineer on arena, no matter offensive/defensive, the most important building to keep up is probably the Dispenser. Health is scarce in Arena, and on top of that it generates that precious metal you need to survive
@RedHunterProductions 1. Did you mean "illegal"? I don't think Valve would have made a scripting system for the game if they didn't want people to use it. Or did you mean "illegible"? In which case yes, my config is not the easiest thing to read, but that's normal, it's code.
2. The instructions are on the page right under the download link.
the best offensive technic is very easy and effective: bulid level 3 sentry near spawn so u get it upgraded fast, then pick it up and wait for a good moment to plant on enemy territory. ive tested it several times, this technic looks stupid, but theres a one chance out of five to get over 10 kills in the first minute.
I think the best sets are FJ / Pistol and Shotgun / Wrangler, because Mini SGs, unlike the normal SGs, are made to be destroyed, and when that happens even if they have accumulated only 1 kill, you still have two crits. However, the FJ must be used with the Pistol, because when the 3 shells run out and the enemy is still alive, you can finish him with the Pistol. Otherwise you can use the base Shotgun + the Wrangler, so you have 6 shells to kill enemies and without the need of the Pistol
Thanks For the tutorial! I totaly got better and btw.. i play on that map too. Almost im the only guy who saves the day with your skills because all of my team mates are camping in the spawn and being snipers. Thats just annoying.
A Important tip for mini sentrys: Place them behind gates, because soldiers cannot destroy them with sticky and demo has sometimes problem with the aim at then, and heavys minigun is doing nothing against a good placed mini sentry
@WindyPower oh...I thought it'd have been much harder! Thanks a bunch ;3
By the way, I believe that the teleporter is hardly as useful in a lot of maps... Like, I can understand its use in Goldrush offensive engineering, where the capture points and spawns are fixed, but in certain maps like fastlane, badlands and so forth it's actually more like a nuisance than a helpful tool. Especially if you're winning, you'd have to constantly replace or relocate it, sucking away precious seconds.
@TehFlyingGerman Watch the weapon demonstration series on the wiki to know how the game works, play on 24/7 2fort servers to learn engineer (on these servers, nobody cares about capping the intelligence, so you have a lot of time to build and see how your machinery works, but don't expect a fun game on those servers), then move on to real servers and practice~
in my opinion (i'm a very nice offensive engi |D) shotgun+Wrang+gs is perfect becouse a minisentry can't kill people without help! but the FJ is good too but is better with the pistol if you got to reload, the FJ looks like a good offensive engi weapon but.. you have to reload too much so i don't use it
Nice video ya got there! I enjoyed this. Im starting to play engineer more and have a roaming playstyle. I dont use the gunslinger since I think its a tad weak. I just build up a level 1 and move it in a nice ambush spot. I use the shotgun since my sentry gets little kills. Im pretty unstoppable by spies too since he's my main class and I know all the ins and outs. >=D
you should NEVER use frontier justice with wrangler and mini sg. because you essentially now only have 3 shells standing between u and death. its a bit iffy even using it with pistol, your mini-sg doesnt get that many kills to get revenge crits.
@Scyfed Yes, the Frontier Justice is the only weapon I'm hesitant about, to be honest. I was using it because the Engineer Update had just been released and wanted the achievement for it. I think the regular Shotgun is better too. I just wish it looked cooler though, because the Frontier Justice is just badass.
@WindyPower Great video though I would agree that FJ + Wrang + GS is not a safe choice. Personally I wouldn't use the Wrangler with the MS only because it discourages flanking ploys... Pistol is the best. As for Shotgun/FJ there are a lot of pros/cons to each. Great video btw thanks for reading my site =D
@wingspantt Thanks :3 I disagree that the Wrangler discourages flanking though, as you can use it to keep your enemies distracted looking at your Sentry Gun while you sneak up on them.
And thanks for watching, for the Golden Wrench charity, for the spy lessons (srsly), the KritzKast interview, etc etc. You're the one who should be thanked here, lol
@WindyPower I use the Wrangler to snipe with my Mini Sentry, when it's out of ammo and I'm out of metal, I destroy it and use my revenge crits to fend for myself while looking for metal.
@cardboardodyssey if you're bad at aiming like wind is, and you use wrangler, it's pretty good, the main aim with it is to knock uber off medics. but both weapons are bad compared to the normal shotgun when playing offensive engineer, if you like to be able to get close to the enemy and be able to fight them. it means you have the better odds against a scout etc.
liamsteele1 2 days ago
Is the new Pomson a good offensive primary to use? I'm thinking that the justice is still the better pick, but I'd like a professional's opinion.
CardboardOdyssey 1 week ago
Please stop saying its bad ive been MVP with this and for the people who said its awesome your probily right
jjames2oo1 3 weeks ago
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sildura2 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
cool:)
Killtillgetkilled 1 month ago
pvhud for the win
tornados2111 1 month ago
What an informative and helpful video. You know you're doing something right when you get my sub after 1 video. =). You an' me, hoss.
codfishthechubbums 1 month ago
WHATS THE SONG?!??!
sildura2 1 month ago
@sildura2 All the song names are written in the bottom-right corner of the screen when they start playing. Additionally, all songs used in this video are listed in the credits, at the end of part 2.
WindyPower 1 month ago 2
@sildura2 Haven't you even watch the video?
BlakeVIPKaZoMa 1 month ago
i can steal intel thanks to the offensive engineerin'!i take the intel and while retreatin',i drop sentries and this buys me valuable time.GO GUNSLINGER!
LongLiveCheatEngine 1 month ago
Personally, I don't see the purpose of playing as this style of Engineer. You're not building dispensers nor upgrading teleporters. There are classes better at killing people than an Engineer with a Gunslinger. Although I can respect this style.
I think setting up a teleporter near the front and putting a normal sentry behind the teleporter is a more effective and useful way to play the class.
Anyways, excellent video - the production quality is amazing!
MrDudeMartin 2 months ago
I'm Using the Ponson for my attack engy and its fun! Medics get ticked off when i use it!
RocketRaccoon99 2 months ago
Lol at the pyro trying to hold spawn.
g4tech 2 months ago
now make a brainiac engi set tuto :333 *Takamoto*
ashdeds 2 months ago
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RocketRaccoon99 3 months ago
The guide is great, but I strongly diagree with using the wrangler along with the gunslinger. You're pistol is the most important weapon when it comes to gunslinger and frontier justice, as it can help you gain the kills you're sentry needs to get those juicy revenge crits.
TopHatSaur 4 months ago
@TopHatSaur your*
ode4951 2 months ago
Its Kind Of Amazing How Many People Go For A Mini Sentry That Is Being Built And They Think 27 Damage From A Mini Sentry Is A Lot When They Could Take Shotgun Hit To The Face
CrackyourskullBitch 4 months ago in playlist CrackyourskullBitch's favorites
mini-sentries actually do build faster if u whack em. super fast. u rarely have to do this though.
GeeGamerz 4 months ago
@jeffhardyisepic: I meant the intro song when the pictures of the engineer and mini sentry showed up
DemolitionLover30 4 months ago
I didn't know that a destroyed Minisentry gives you revenge crits too. Eh, regardless, I'll stick with my Strange Shotgun
theif519 4 months ago
i prefer the widowmaker/pistol/gunslinger setup. i find that my mini-sentries often only harass and assist me in getting kills. rarely does it get enough kills for a useable amount of revenge crits. offensive engies usually have a lot of metal (requires map knowledge for ammo pack locations) so i use the widowmaker cuz im a pretty good shot with it. (it seems like it does more damage and has a tighter cone of fire) i use pistol if i run out of widowmaker ammo. (obviously if i use a wrangler wit
GeeGamerz 4 months ago
@GeeGamerz and if you're good with the widowmaker you get back all the metal in no time flat. I went from 100 to 200 in a few meatshots
TheMeltedskul 4 months ago
@TheMeltedskul iphone let me type my comment, but youtube cut off the rest of it. -_- btw widowmaker got buffed, takes away only 30 metal now so it's well balanced.
GeeGamerz 4 months ago
What is the first song? :)
DemolitionLover30 5 months ago
@DemolitionLover30 pause at 0:43 and look in the bottom right corner
jeffhardyisepic 4 months ago
Hey wind, are you the one tf2wiki used as 'saxxxy' demonstartion? (P.S. sorry i suck at english)
REDiWacky 5 months ago
@REDiWacky Yes
WindyPower 5 months ago
@WindyPower congrats. You are in 200th wiki video, i figured out 1 hour ago =D
REDiWacky 5 months ago
@REDiWacky Why yes I am in that video, since I made that video :3 But thanks~
WindyPower 5 months ago
@WindyPower Oh last question, did you made a golden wrench video too?
REDiWacky 5 months ago
@REDiWacky Yes, both revisions of it. I run the weapon demonstration project, so I get to reserve the fancy weapons videos
WindyPower 5 months ago
you are very offensive with your sentries...typically I sit them in a corner and I "aggro" my prey and kinda lure them back into the firing line of my sentry so it just eats away at them...get lots of assits/kills when they don't know its there.
MrLolnut 5 months ago
I liked and subbed :D! Your awesome dude.
TheOTTgaming 5 months ago
Wind, what do I do if I only want to install the Engy scripts?
BoneBeastKimimaro 5 months ago
A nice video, pls keep going
Alejandro3245 6 months ago
pls help me tell me how to get gunslinger i beg pls help me i cant get it =(
HappyBlueStar1 6 months ago
@HappyBlueStar1 Randomdrop...
Vladek569 6 months ago
pls help me tell me how to get gunslinger i beg pls help me i cant get it =(
HappyBlueStar1 6 months ago
Will you make more offensive engineering guides? The Jag is a great wrench
Alejandro3245 6 months ago
Excellent guide, certainly helped me out. Just a question, though. Obviously the gameplay and video is old, but do you think the new Engie shotgun, the Widowmaker, is any good for offensive engineering? or any engineering?
xhunter143 6 months ago
@xhunter143 I'd only use both of the new Deus Ex weapons defensively. They both require a steady supply of metal, which you would probably better spend on minisentries
WindyPower 6 months ago 5
@WindyPower Although that sounds right i'd like to open an contrast to your statement. the widow maker does more damage than the other two shotguns. so you get your money's worth unlike the frontier justice which only gets a critical if your sentry gets a kill and destroyed. i tend to continuously get kills with my sentry while im getting stock pile so it seems ok to us eif you always have a reserve 100 for a mini sentry hope it helped.
mileator 5 months ago in playlist mileator's Favorited Videos
@mileator It doesn't do more damage per shot than either shotgun
WindyPower 5 months ago
@WindyPower watch?v=PeTq3s9mIzI&feature=related
tf2wiki. n e t /wiki/Widowmaker
mileator 5 months ago
@xhunter143 the windowmaker sucks,dont buy it,takes up 2 much ammo and does little damage
dru12121 5 months ago
@WindyPower 5:07 how u do that?
DotASlark98 6 months ago
Sometimes, you just need a little less gun.
MrIcePho3nix 6 months ago
Seeing as though gunslinger engie is apparently a TF2 god when played right, do I suck if I got second in team during my second ever gunslinger outing instead of best?
Kytseo 6 months ago in playlist Texas Style
@Kytseo Nope~ I was third during round 2
WindyPower 6 months ago
@WindyPower fair enough
Kytseo 6 months ago
Your guide was one of the things that inspired me to try the engineer out. I used to view engis solely as largely immobile prey, or pests at best - but these days I'm having fun dropping sneaky teleports in dark corners of enemy bases, and dropping sentries (mini- and otherwise) in tricky locations to shoot scouts out of the air. Mobile, thinking engineer is kredit to team!
The problem is when no one bothers to check on your buildings when you go hunting metal. Hard to turn the tide as engi :(.
a0classcriminal 6 months ago
isnt it sometimes good to quickly build a dispenser when low at health and theres noone really around
utubepoopable 6 months ago
that makes no fucking sense how it costs more to fully refill the sentries ammo then to build a new one but w/e
utubepoopable 6 months ago
hmm the elders server, thats my server :)
ADChi7 6 months ago
also "Your Mechanical Soul Mate" Do you mean the wife has to do all the hard work? :D
Chococlass33 6 months ago
@Chococlass33 A soul mate doesn't have to be female. This one is mechanical, it has no gender~
WindyPower 6 months ago 2
@WindyPower Well, cars don't have genders (unlike in the movie), and some call their cars "she" or "her," so is it out of the question to dub a sentry by that following that logic?
Kytseo 6 months ago
@Kytseo "I have no idea"
WindyPower 6 months ago
@WindyPower Your guide spurred me out of the 3 minute long tradition of classic denfending. I love your guide. Just wondering, I tried doing this in arena but it kinda stops working when it blows up. I can pick up more metal sure but by then I'm kinda useless after a 2nd sentry gun. Is there any good way to counter a couple of no good pyros/scouts/Demomen/Soldier/heavies? I would love to distract them while shooting them but they chew through metal quickly and a pistol ain't as big of a weapon.
Chococlass33 6 months ago
@Chococlass33 I rarely play arena so I can't really tell, but really, if you're playing as Engineer on arena, no matter offensive/defensive, the most important building to keep up is probably the Dispenser. Health is scarce in Arena, and on top of that it generates that precious metal you need to survive
WindyPower 6 months ago
How did you make it so you hit one button and you can build your sentry and still build one with another out
iRc0r3yDough 7 months ago
@iRc0r3yDough It destroys the previous one.
WindyPower 7 months ago
Can you still upgrade ur dispenser and teleporters with the gunslinger
iRc0r3yDough 7 months ago
Dear WindyPower,
I have 2 questions for you.
1 I think that your config is illigle. is that true?
2 Could you make a video how to instal and use your config. It doesn't work for me.
i hope i get some awnsers.
RedHunterProductions 7 months ago
@RedHunterProductions 1. Did you mean "illegal"? I don't think Valve would have made a scripting system for the game if they didn't want people to use it. Or did you mean "illegible"? In which case yes, my config is not the easiest thing to read, but that's normal, it's code.
2. The instructions are on the page right under the download link.
WindyPower 7 months ago
As an Engineer coordination is... Oh. I see what you did there.
SuperFly8anzai 8 months ago
Thanks for the video, very help and learned a lot.
undrtakr900 8 months ago
LET'S DO THIS... TEXAS STYLE!!!
Francis5795 8 months ago 40
spies>wrangler. past experience sux
Adventruer 8 months ago
the best offensive technic is very easy and effective: bulid level 3 sentry near spawn so u get it upgraded fast, then pick it up and wait for a good moment to plant on enemy territory. ive tested it several times, this technic looks stupid, but theres a one chance out of five to get over 10 kills in the first minute.
ommeh49 9 months ago
Very useful video pardner!
DaForceG 1 year ago
Have you considered releasing other tutorial videos like this one? Because I just think this is very awesome.
AaronTheLuigi 1 year ago
why the fuck is youtube so finicky now, it takes an hour for me to get a video to work
minic78 1 year ago
I think the best sets are FJ / Pistol and Shotgun / Wrangler, because Mini SGs, unlike the normal SGs, are made to be destroyed, and when that happens even if they have accumulated only 1 kill, you still have two crits. However, the FJ must be used with the Pistol, because when the 3 shells run out and the enemy is still alive, you can finish him with the Pistol. Otherwise you can use the base Shotgun + the Wrangler, so you have 6 shells to kill enemies and without the need of the Pistol
TheMangecu 1 year ago
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TheMangecu 1 year ago
This music is awesome.
1xadavid 1 year ago
can you use default shotgun for offensive engineer?
utubepoopable 1 year ago
@utubepoopable You can, but there's a difference:
Default Shotgun - 6 shots, deals random crits
Frontier Justice - 3 shots, no random crits, gives you revenge crits if your sentry gun blew up with kills/assists
AnReFan 7 months ago
Thanks For the tutorial! I totaly got better and btw.. i play on that map too. Almost im the only guy who saves the day with your skills because all of my team mates are camping in the spawn and being snipers. Thats just annoying.
RunescapeNerd1597 1 year ago
Plz upload Enginer Update
PLPawkoW 1 year ago
A Important tip for mini sentrys: Place them behind gates, because soldiers cannot destroy them with sticky and demo has sometimes problem with the aim at then, and heavys minigun is doing nothing against a good placed mini sentry
KingBrookfield 1 year ago
the mini sentry is so cute :3 i named mine Wafflez Jr.
illegalwaffles 1 year ago
i play as three kinds of engis
Defensive Engineer: I play that when enemies are rushing o
Offensive Engineer: Using big sentry guns on offence for a push
Gunslinger: if im a loner and i use trickery to my advantage
keggie09 1 year ago
I am trying to get a hold of these tactics, but I'd also like to use that HUD of yours. Where can I find it?
M30W3R 1 year ago
@M30W3R Google "community hud"
WindyPower 1 year ago
@WindyPower oh...I thought it'd have been much harder! Thanks a bunch ;3
By the way, I believe that the teleporter is hardly as useful in a lot of maps... Like, I can understand its use in Goldrush offensive engineering, where the capture points and spawns are fixed, but in certain maps like fastlane, badlands and so forth it's actually more like a nuisance than a helpful tool. Especially if you're winning, you'd have to constantly replace or relocate it, sucking away precious seconds.
M30W3R 1 year ago
@WindyPower any tips for someone who litterally started tf2 last night :P i know engineer could be my favorite class but i suck ): any beginner tips?
TehFlyingGerman 8 months ago
@TehFlyingGerman Watch the weapon demonstration series on the wiki to know how the game works, play on 24/7 2fort servers to learn engineer (on these servers, nobody cares about capping the intelligence, so you have a lot of time to build and see how your machinery works, but don't expect a fun game on those servers), then move on to real servers and practice~
WindyPower 8 months ago
@WindyPower alright thanks for the help
TehFlyingGerman 8 months ago
@WindyPower i started doing aggressive engineering, soooooooo much fun thanks alot dude
TehFlyingGerman 8 months ago
@M30W3R i think the hud is called Revan_xp hud
c0ldfire141 1 year ago
in my opinion (i'm a very nice offensive engi |D) shotgun+Wrang+gs is perfect becouse a minisentry can't kill people without help! but the FJ is good too but is better with the pistol if you got to reload, the FJ looks like a good offensive engi weapon but.. you have to reload too much so i don't use it
SilviaCampo96 1 year ago
Nice video ya got there! I enjoyed this. Im starting to play engineer more and have a roaming playstyle. I dont use the gunslinger since I think its a tad weak. I just build up a level 1 and move it in a nice ambush spot. I use the shotgun since my sentry gets little kills. Im pretty unstoppable by spies too since he's my main class and I know all the ins and outs. >=D
TEHspy 1 year ago
Offensive engineer was always my dream when I played TF2, now its out...... and steam doesnt work :(
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
I love the Gunslinger so much.
magmablock 1 year ago
you should NEVER use frontier justice with wrangler and mini sg. because you essentially now only have 3 shells standing between u and death. its a bit iffy even using it with pistol, your mini-sg doesnt get that many kills to get revenge crits.
Scyfed 1 year ago
@Scyfed Yes, the Frontier Justice is the only weapon I'm hesitant about, to be honest. I was using it because the Engineer Update had just been released and wanted the achievement for it. I think the regular Shotgun is better too. I just wish it looked cooler though, because the Frontier Justice is just badass.
WindyPower 1 year ago
@WindyPower Great video though I would agree that FJ + Wrang + GS is not a safe choice. Personally I wouldn't use the Wrangler with the MS only because it discourages flanking ploys... Pistol is the best. As for Shotgun/FJ there are a lot of pros/cons to each. Great video btw thanks for reading my site =D
wingspantt 1 year ago 4
@wingspantt Thanks :3 I disagree that the Wrangler discourages flanking though, as you can use it to keep your enemies distracted looking at your Sentry Gun while you sneak up on them.
And thanks for watching, for the Golden Wrench charity, for the spy lessons (srsly), the KritzKast interview, etc etc. You're the one who should be thanked here, lol
WindyPower 1 year ago 10
@WindyPower FT and Wrangler are defense weapons IMO, to be used in nesting with either the wrench or SoCo in turtling.
TheLemonGrenade 1 year ago
@WindyPower I use the Wrangler to snipe with my Mini Sentry, when it's out of ammo and I'm out of metal, I destroy it and use my revenge crits to fend for myself while looking for metal.
kirby0628 1 year ago
I'm waiting the video to load, but still I have good feelings about it
Alejandro3245 1 year ago
@Alejandro3245 Watching in 1080p? :o
WindyPower 1 year ago
@WindyPower 720 hp, my laptop is shit xD
Alejandro3245 1 year ago
only 139 views? dude you need to promote this vid. it's awesome
kartoffel13 1 year ago
@kartoffel13 Well, I released it pretty recently, and I don't have a strong following... but you're free to help :3
WindyPower 1 year ago