Y a une force en plays Scriabin qui, transcrit une époque en fort chamboulement évolutif qui contient, le moderne l'émergence industriel et à la fois, la nostalgique du Romantisme .Un Romantisme, restent encore très présent dans ce morceau plein de force !
I hate listening to this because i know it will be some time before i can learn this beautiful, passionate etude. Makes me jealous. I guess i just have to wait. One of my absolute favorites.
I really like this piece and one thing I like about it is that the first time I heard it, right after the "fade-in" beginning, I thought I had missed something or it started in the middle of the piece... but now every time I hear it, I feel something similar to when I wake up in the middle of a dream. I have no idea how I got there but it all seems so real that I don't question it. I also just watched Inception recently. o.o
Someone on another youtube page said one couldn't tell from the piano rolls the dynamics or tempo Scriabin himself played, but this clearly shows that to be in error.
@newFranzFerencLiszt It has won me a piano competition or two...not once have I been bored of playing it, even on my Yamaha upright! Do you 8vb the A# octave at the start of the eighth measure before the end? Horowitz has done it occasionally....brings a huge amount of larger sound!
Even today only Scriabin can play it at the right tempo, and not to martel too much the left hand - he had far more superior technic compared to any contemporain performer today - sorry to say listen and look at the duration of the record ...
Yes, I get the feeling that this is the most proper interpretation because it is faster and brings out the feelings of agitation that this piece seems to describe to me.
Im not so sure if this piece is really played by Scriabin. I`d like read more opinion. If this had been true Horowitz or Richter would play better than the same composer! Im not sure...
@astronomo16 you re listenning to a piano roll that has no more emotion and playing than the recreated dynamics you get from masterization of a scriabin playing this piece after having his hand injoured!!! im sure he tops them easily! he was a pianist legend! and for me this piano roll recording is the best version out there!
Reminiscences de don Juan wasn't it (that scriabin injured his hand playing), in the 1890s when he was carving himself a career as a concert pianist. There isn't many people who can stretch a compound perfect fourth with their LH, some jazz players are more likely to be able to. All the recordings I've heard play the bottom d# as a grace note onto the g# on the beat, some do it with the d#-f# for comfort as well, incorporating them into the rubato feel.
i don't think this'll solve anything because i wrote this here before but here it goes again: SCRIABIN DID NOT PLAY IT LIKE THIS! this is a piano roll; scriabin could've played one note every hour and then put it together. scriabin's hands were way too small to do something like this. he injured his hand playing a piece by liszt but even before that he still couldn't play like this believe me
universal. One day , when nothing on this planet will exist. This kind of piece will be find by E.Ts and they will understand the complexity genius of some portion of mankind/ thanks for this
The fact is that the original Welte Mignon piano recorders have been vanished and only the players have been restored , so we have the rare chance to hear the composer himself playing , accurately recorded and reproduced, since the nowdays piano player is some kind of "robot" which hits the clavier the exact way the player did , a century ago, just reproducing the "touch" and tempo recorded in these paper rolls ! So we can attach a fine piano in front of this "player" and record it !!!
@myaskovsky2002 The CD "Alexander Scriabin and the Scriabinists" (RUS788032) has this and whole bunch of other great material on it, played by Russian pianists from the mid-century (including Niehaus). Its a bit difficult to get hold of (and not cheap) but if you're into Scriabin, especially if you're trying to play it, this is the one to get.
@Theonedue -- its just got the piano-roll pieces, five or six of them. This CD's of widely varying quality -- not the recording but the quality of the playing. This is very much an individual thing, what appeals to you personally.
Yes you can hear the piece without any mistakes, but I'm just pissed because I wanted to hear Scriabin play his pieces....would have been a great delicasy.
al final hay un acorde en figura de redondas, y el toca negras aproximadamente ... por que ha de haber tocado negras?? no lo se, solo se que el era un genio de los pocos que lo son de verdad y lo demuestra con su música
I have a recording of Scriabin plays Scriabin ( my own version) that may or may not be the same recording as this one. I personally dont belive it is. I wouldnt know if Scriabin made 2 recordings or one has been edited. Would someone please compare the two and tell me the difference and if mine really is Scriabin?
This is amazing--ok, for those who love this etude, if you go to my web site you can click on the Tribute to Adele Marcus and have a listen to how she played it. We've saved those old recordings of her.
This makes more sense in Scriabin's own hands than anyone else. Horowitz usually does better with this stuff but Scriabin is actually more sensical by a lot, surprisingly.
I personally think Horiwtz plays this peice better than Scriabin himself. This is considered possible by myself when i remember Horowitz was a student of Scriabin.
It's amazing! His tempo on this etude is far faster than anyone's of today! I'm curious to know if he had already damaged his hand when he played this.
@m4g1cmus1c he wrote his first sonata in 1892 shortly after hurting his hand. he hurt his hand playing don juan fantasy and islamey...that is just insane for a guy that can barely do a 9th.
@kepler101 I know. Don Juan, Islamey and all Beethoven sonatas simultaneously. But how can he play this piece with a damaged hand? I know that it was the right one, which is not too stressed in this piece, but still...
@skellez83 yeah, and he was writing a piece that would bring about the apocalypse as well.. :P if you look up some quotes by him theyre really quite interesting lol
@skellez83 I have no idea what the piece was or if theres anything left of it. My piano teacher is a concert pianist and likes telling me little stories here and there about scriabin :P so ill have to ask him.
Hi There Baal66613. I just see that you have Sinestesia...would you listen to my music and tell me what you see (My first sonate and second sonate). I am an composer and verry courius about Sinasthesy...
@ronkini123 Dramatic mustaches are one thing the world in general, and especially the music world, is missing today. The great times have gone with the brushy greying tufts...
You guys go ahead and get the last word. I'm not going to continue to pollute this vid with this circular ass debate about something so trivial, it makes politics and religion look important.
There's a saying. Keep it simple, stupid. When you talk about music a lot, com-po-si-tion is too long, tune sounds gay, comp sounds too harsh and melody is inaccurate. I have a rhythmic way of speaking.
I'll bet this is why pop-music exists. Everyone got scared off by the ridiculously verbose nature of the classical world and the air of pretentiousness you find when you call it volume instead of dynamics. If I'm not in musical class and I call it dynamics, I get puzzled expressions.
If you're not in music class, chances are you are surrounded with non-musical people who have no ear and like music that is easiest for them to relate to.
i didnt know these recordings existed. it sounds amazingly well. isnt this the model which all scriabin performances should be measured against? (sorry for my english im sure i made grammar mistakes. i hope you understand me)
I don't care what we call it. The English language is pretty damn relative anyway. Almost every literary device translates like crap in other languages.
The point of language is to convey a message, not get all stuck up on words. That's why I don't like lyrics. They get in the way of S-O-N-G-S!
Btw, I'm still calling them ALL that.
I sing with instruments.
It's a lot easier and my memory is better reserved for musical devices. I am not a poet. I'll leave that to you guys.
I encountered Scriabin when a kid. It was NOT the right time to hear his genius. Now, as an almost 50-yr old, I'm completely sucked in to his mastery of the instrument, his moods which are not only so Russian, but so completely internal. I hear Chopin in his early works, and I hear Scriabin in his first big champion, Rachmanninof's music. The glorious chain of influence, admiration and love.
I respect Scriabin so much. His work is genius, i feel like writing atonal is more complicated because we are conditioned to want to hear harmonizing notes or just notes that don't sound out of place.
siempre me ha gustado esta obra de Alexander Scriabin, y oirla interpretada por él mismo??? es simplemente conmovedor... se imaginan cuan impresionante sería tener regsitros de las obras de Frédéric Chópin interpretadas por el mismo???
@louiu: where did you get this recording? i am looking for a cd with original scriabin recordings. i browsed the internet for quite some time now but I couldn't find any. do you know one?
Surprisingly straightforward performance. I listened to Horowitz's recordings enraptured by the hidden meanings that his playing exposed. Turn out they were all red herrings.
I know exactly what you mean... This recording opened my eyes to the real power behind this piece; every moment where people "traditionally" linger he seems to blaze through with a mission, and odd moments where I haven't heard a pause he gives little breaths of time. All in all, almost a manifesto in how to play powerfully and delicately at the same time, and with a rhythmic drive that I've almost never heard before.
good piece, but I don't think that is Scriabin playing it. His hands were small and couldn't possibly play the second to last chord together like that.
In my opinion, Scriabin's genius is the incredible evolution of his music during his musical life. (32 years)
That's why I think he is one of the best composer in all time. He trusted in music, he lived only for HIS music (maybe it sounds a bit pretentious for some people but look at what he had done)
I wonder what kind of music he would had written during ww1 and ww2 considering that
This is one of Scriabin's relatively earlier works...his works did, in fact, get more "modern" as he aged, bordering on atonal.
I love his "modern" works, but many don't, which I can understand. Check out his 5th piano sonata, which is kind of on the fence of romanticism/modernism...it's really neat stuff.
I just realized you're probably not aware. But yeah, this was talked about for several less than pleasant paragraphs that took away from just listening to the "tune", for lack of a less lame word.
This's maybe, the Original rendition, played by Scriabin himself, because of the velocity and this style...very different to Horowitz 's or Kissin 's!
I love and I wonder if I'll play like this a day!!! God, I do love this piece!!!!!!!!!
Yes, this is the real thing. Most play Scriabin as if he was Rachmaninov, including Horowitz. With Scriabin the most important things are rhythm and above all velocity which are here quite evident. The only problem with piano rolls are the reproduction of dynamic contrasts within chords. As there isn't much of that here one can safely say that this is a faithful reproduction of Scriabin's playing. The only question remaining is that of the tempo of the roll - which sounds just about right.
this is NOT a person playing a piano morons, it's a piano roll and there is no way you can give it any type of human feel besides basic note input to be spewed back out randomly concerning nuance. Only the tempo might have been accurate but that's about all.
Goosebumps.
tzenka 1 month ago 3
...I assume, i have fallen in love.
Simply, Gorgeous!
SakumaRyuichiNG 3 months ago
Brilliant !!!
TheLuviathan 4 months ago
Magnificent.
paderuski1 4 months ago
Y a une force en plays Scriabin qui, transcrit une époque en fort chamboulement évolutif qui contient, le moderne l'émergence industriel et à la fois, la nostalgique du Romantisme .Un Romantisme, restent encore très présent dans ce morceau plein de force !
tacle51 4 months ago
My cousin just learned this...this is the first time I've ever heard of scriabin
weapondrift 4 months ago
Amazing !! it is a beautiful jewel this find, Thanks a lot for share it .
armandodiazdavila 5 months ago
I hate listening to this because i know it will be some time before i can learn this beautiful, passionate etude. Makes me jealous. I guess i just have to wait. One of my absolute favorites.
TBT
TheBulgarianThunder 5 months ago in playlist Scriabin
I really like this piece and one thing I like about it is that the first time I heard it, right after the "fade-in" beginning, I thought I had missed something or it started in the middle of the piece... but now every time I hear it, I feel something similar to when I wake up in the middle of a dream. I have no idea how I got there but it all seems so real that I don't question it. I also just watched Inception recently. o.o
desolateroom 5 months ago
He must have had four hands! Simply a fabulous genius, not just technicality that can be tiresome, but rich musicality that never is or can be!
russedav5 5 months ago
Someone on another youtube page said one couldn't tell from the piano rolls the dynamics or tempo Scriabin himself played, but this clearly shows that to be in error.
russedav5 5 months ago
the best i've ever heard. and have a heard a lot.
VisioninScience 5 months ago
Think Horowitz plays it better than Alexander...
MehradPersian 6 months ago
@MehradPersian
Of course not. The melody line in this performance is impressive and fluid. Horowitz's performance is truly amazing, but not as this one.
kzelmer 4 months ago 2
Document of first importance for one of the most beautiful and powerful prelude ever written and interpreted by Scriabine himself.
MrAam1964 7 months ago
nothing more to say.
karolakcp 7 months ago
Simply as this piece "must" to be played....!!! Only Scriabin....!!!
dido93 8 months ago
@pattoculto12 You are supid number ONE. Go to hell , pathetic American shit. I would have loved to have been there.
voyagerlegends 8 months ago
so trippy, so excellent!
Smileyfacedkiller 8 months ago
i can't stop laughing seeing the left hand! it's too funny to play it at sight-reading xD
newFranzFerencLiszt 9 months ago
@newFranzFerencLiszt
yes, at one point i turned the left hand into midi for fun and it is quite bouncy by itself!
cashkenazipiano 8 months ago
@cashkenazipiano I'm studying this now. I feel a god
newFranzFerencLiszt 8 months ago
@newFranzFerencLiszt It has won me a piano competition or two...not once have I been bored of playing it, even on my Yamaha upright! Do you 8vb the A# octave at the start of the eighth measure before the end? Horowitz has done it occasionally....brings a huge amount of larger sound!
cashkenazipiano 8 months ago
@cashkenazipiano yes, it's the score i found on imslp
newFranzFerencLiszt 8 months ago
Even today only Scriabin can play it at the right tempo, and not to martel too much the left hand - he had far more superior technic compared to any contemporain performer today - sorry to say listen and look at the duration of the record ...
perinp 9 months ago
He pushes the rythym so urgently, but without rushing.
aardvaark069 9 months ago
This has to be Scriabin himself, or a the music god himself.
QuoPacto 10 months ago
I like how Kissin plays it better. I know it could sound strange, but that's the best version I herd yet.
luciannastase 10 months ago
Yeah, youre strange. This version is perfect.
Theonedue 10 months ago 9
I would love to enter a room full of people, play through this piece this well, and then just walk out like nothing had ever happened.
Mozartstavanger 10 months ago 54
@Mozartstavanger randomness is awesome
addeex1 10 months ago 2
Awesome!
RunWalkRace 10 months ago
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mahpyuatho 11 months ago
Yes, I get the feeling that this is the most proper interpretation because it is faster and brings out the feelings of agitation that this piece seems to describe to me.
hellomate639 11 months ago 2
Maestro!!!!
ed2ar 11 months ago
Anticipation is a very powerful motivator...
Lorinstargte 1 year ago
Im not so sure if this piece is really played by Scriabin. I`d like read more opinion. If this had been true Horowitz or Richter would play better than the same composer! Im not sure...
astronomo16 1 year ago
@astronomo16 you re listenning to a piano roll that has no more emotion and playing than the recreated dynamics you get from masterization of a scriabin playing this piece after having his hand injoured!!! im sure he tops them easily! he was a pianist legend! and for me this piano roll recording is the best version out there!
alejandrothefader 9 months ago
wow, these changes in tempo are astounding! Completely different from anything we hear from modern pianists...
schnipsikabel 1 year ago
Reminiscences de don Juan wasn't it (that scriabin injured his hand playing), in the 1890s when he was carving himself a career as a concert pianist. There isn't many people who can stretch a compound perfect fourth with their LH, some jazz players are more likely to be able to. All the recordings I've heard play the bottom d# as a grace note onto the g# on the beat, some do it with the d#-f# for comfort as well, incorporating them into the rubato feel.
etudepatetico 1 year ago
i don't think this'll solve anything because i wrote this here before but here it goes again: SCRIABIN DID NOT PLAY IT LIKE THIS! this is a piano roll; scriabin could've played one note every hour and then put it together. scriabin's hands were way too small to do something like this. he injured his hand playing a piece by liszt but even before that he still couldn't play like this believe me
ibclappin 1 year ago
universal. One day , when nothing on this planet will exist. This kind of piece will be find by E.Ts and they will understand the complexity genius of some portion of mankind/ thanks for this
jbp27 1 year ago
@ronkini: yes...even the women
javablanca 1 year ago 3
Best creepy song ever
allisstardustblog 1 year ago
who are these crazy people disliking this music?
steamednotfried 1 year ago
@steamednotfried
just "trolls" wanting to see responses to their bad reactions.
called NSB'ers in my country (some holland-guild who helped nazi's betray our jews).
bolawarrior 1 year ago
Noone could play it like this! (goosebumps. Unbelieveable.)
ellandelachapelle 1 year ago
Omg those octaves are amazing! :O
addeex1 1 year ago 3
The fact is that the original Welte Mignon piano recorders have been vanished and only the players have been restored , so we have the rare chance to hear the composer himself playing , accurately recorded and reproduced, since the nowdays piano player is some kind of "robot" which hits the clavier the exact way the player did , a century ago, just reproducing the "touch" and tempo recorded in these paper rolls ! So we can attach a fine piano in front of this "player" and record it !!!
costaskes 1 year ago
Can we get this on CD? Could you give a link? Please! I love the way he plays.
Martin
myaskovsky2002 1 year ago
@myaskovsky2002 The CD "Alexander Scriabin and the Scriabinists" (RUS788032) has this and whole bunch of other great material on it, played by Russian pianists from the mid-century (including Niehaus). Its a bit difficult to get hold of (and not cheap) but if you're into Scriabin, especially if you're trying to play it, this is the one to get.
martinusher1 1 year ago
But are any of the recordings of Scriabin playing any pieces?
Theonedue 1 year ago
@Theonedue -- its just got the piano-roll pieces, five or six of them. This CD's of widely varying quality -- not the recording but the quality of the playing. This is very much an individual thing, what appeals to you personally.
martinusher1 1 year ago
Yes you can hear the piece without any mistakes, but I'm just pissed because I wanted to hear Scriabin play his pieces....would have been a great delicasy.
Theonedue 1 year ago
al final hay un acorde en figura de redondas, y el toca negras aproximadamente ... por que ha de haber tocado negras?? no lo se, solo se que el era un genio de los pocos que lo son de verdad y lo demuestra con su música
nolanprokofiev565 1 year ago
wow, the antique sound-quality gives it a dreamy surreal sound, like music from a distant memory.
kingcade 1 year ago
great
jbp27 1 year ago
i have been looking for this for years how great he was
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I wonder what would have happened if Liszt met Scriabin. I think this world would be doomed
theanguished1 1 year ago
Even if Scriabin was an awesome composer, Horowitz plays this piece better.
JakaAce 1 year ago
@JakaAce You're one of many who doesn't understand...
CSPlayerDamon 1 year ago
@JakaAce you are neither scrabin or horowitz so your comment is worthless
afertyus1000 1 year ago
Scriabin has such a flawless command of acceleration here, and a completely shameless sense of excitement
HotRatsAndTheStooges 1 year ago 3
Wow, I never dreamed this piece could be played so well.. desperate and beautiful.
BrackenClelk 1 year ago
Scriabin...musical genius...unique, wonderful..words fail
TheBlueCream 1 year ago 2
OMG the last 2 chords ! Never thought it couls be played so divine a way
titi116 1 year ago 3
"I am God," is what Alexander Scriabin once famously said. He believed his music would deliver the world to redemption.
He truly did the impossible
SqueekyMonkey101 1 year ago 4
I have a recording of Scriabin plays Scriabin ( my own version) that may or may not be the same recording as this one. I personally dont belive it is. I wouldnt know if Scriabin made 2 recordings or one has been edited. Would someone please compare the two and tell me the difference and if mine really is Scriabin?
openmindspace 1 year ago
This is amazing--ok, for those who love this etude, if you go to my web site you can click on the Tribute to Adele Marcus and have a listen to how she played it. We've saved those old recordings of her.
biegel88 1 year ago
You need such a speed in the execution of this etude that I can't manage it. Beautiful and difficult. Thank you!
PureSoapCleans 1 year ago
This makes more sense in Scriabin's own hands than anyone else. Horowitz usually does better with this stuff but Scriabin is actually more sensical by a lot, surprisingly.
hellomate639 1 year ago 3
It has to be Scriabin. Do you seriously believe anyone could play it this well?
daemonturk 1 year ago 52
@daemonturk Horowitz played it much better! Even despite Scriabin played it really good. Horowitz was born to play this etude.
TheRedArmy10 4 months ago
@TheRedArmy10 Opinions
BasileusR 4 months ago
@TheRedArmy10
I think you're more in tune with the gushy romantic style of playing. I dislike it, it's over the top and over-expressed.
hellomate639 2 months ago
Scriabin..ilove you
ilovescarlatti 1 year ago
debussy more hip and modern for these days
MrConcepto 1 year ago
The most famous of his etudes, for good reason.
freethinker923 1 year ago
so tasty for my ears...
CafeDkP13 1 year ago
I love to hear the King of the Piano play his own masterpieces!
Mozartstavanger 1 year ago
I personally think Horiwtz plays this peice better than Scriabin himself. This is considered possible by myself when i remember Horowitz was a student of Scriabin.
openmindspace 1 year ago 2
@openmindspace I think that Scriabin plays this much better than Scriabin himself.
lewars1912 1 year ago 3
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openmindspace 1 year ago
the best!!
rbob200 1 year ago
It's amazing! His tempo on this etude is far faster than anyone's of today! I'm curious to know if he had already damaged his hand when he played this.
m4g1cmus1c 1 year ago
@m4g1cmus1c he wrote his first sonata in 1892 shortly after hurting his hand. he hurt his hand playing don juan fantasy and islamey...that is just insane for a guy that can barely do a 9th.
kepler101 1 year ago
@kepler101 I know. Don Juan, Islamey and all Beethoven sonatas simultaneously. But how can he play this piece with a damaged hand? I know that it was the right one, which is not too stressed in this piece, but still...
m4g1cmus1c 1 year ago
People say he was tormented by a vision of the Earth colliding and eventually crashing into the Sun.
skellez83 1 year ago
@skellez83 yeah, and he was writing a piece that would bring about the apocalypse as well.. :P if you look up some quotes by him theyre really quite interesting lol
pianomangabe 1 year ago 2
@pianomangabe Cool, I didn't know that dude...do you know if there is anything left of that piece?
skellez83 1 year ago
@skellez83 I have no idea what the piece was or if theres anything left of it. My piano teacher is a concert pianist and likes telling me little stories here and there about scriabin :P so ill have to ask him.
pianomangabe 1 year ago
I have sinestesia with music, and Etude Op.8 No.12 is so great...
tengo sinestesia con la música, y esta obra es sencillamente genial.
Baal66613 1 year ago
@Baal66613
Hi There Baal66613. I just see that you have Sinestesia...would you listen to my music and tell me what you see (My first sonate and second sonate). I am an composer and verry courius about Sinasthesy...
Best.
Maurice290964 1 year ago
Scriabin should have been one of the 'immortals' along with Rachmaninoff....
sackwhacker 1 year ago 2
@sackwhacker He is!
director289 1 year ago 2
Wow, this is actually a pretty great performance. Very fast. I think Scriabin actually took his metronome markings seriously.
hophmi 1 year ago
@hophmi this is a piano roll so it's adjusted to how scriabin wanted it to sound. scriabin's hands weren't even big enough to play it this fast.
ibclappin 1 year ago
@Sonik417
No one takes an interest in politics because politicians are distractions and do whatever the hell they want whether you like it or not.
If you weren't some dumb-ass 13 year old with a large mouth and a small brain, you'd probably be aware of this fact.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@Sonik417
If there was ever a more retarded comment on the entirety of this site, I'd be amazed to witness it!
My lack of rhythm? I used a sequencer to make it!
Just because basic 4/4 standard techno fare is too complex for your tiny little pea-brain, doesn't mean it's off beat.
Dare I ever use 5/4 around you!
Frikkin' idiot!
I'll bet anything more complex than Kesha is considered "sour notes" to you.
You're either very jealous or very simple (it's another word for stupid, stupid).
XSPStudios 1 year ago
Скрябин играет себя лучше, чем кто бы то ни было. Только Горовиц на концерте в Москве смог приблизиться.
mbastur 1 year ago 3
omg everyone had moustaches back then
ronkini123 1 year ago 47
@ronkini123 Dramatic mustaches are one thing the world in general, and especially the music world, is missing today. The great times have gone with the brushy greying tufts...
AldenHardaway 11 months ago
@ronkini123
the man on the right in the middle didn't have!
mziel53 9 months ago
You guys go ahead and get the last word. I'm not going to continue to pollute this vid with this circular ass debate about something so trivial, it makes politics and religion look important.
XSPStudios 1 year ago 2
There's a saying. Keep it simple, stupid. When you talk about music a lot, com-po-si-tion is too long, tune sounds gay, comp sounds too harsh and melody is inaccurate. I have a rhythmic way of speaking.
I'll bet this is why pop-music exists. Everyone got scared off by the ridiculously verbose nature of the classical world and the air of pretentiousness you find when you call it volume instead of dynamics. If I'm not in musical class and I call it dynamics, I get puzzled expressions.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@XSPStudios piece
istickyricei 1 year ago
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@istickyricei
Lasagna.
Piece is pretentious. A piece is a penis.
They're frequencies. Not ego boosters.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
If you're not in music class, chances are you are surrounded with non-musical people who have no ear and like music that is easiest for them to relate to.
theuniverse053211a 1 year ago
@theuniverse053211a
Actually it's more neurological. People like stuff that is formulaic, because those formulas are specifically designed to sell CD's.
1. Put a good looking person on the cover
2. Have them "sing" about relationships
3. Have some audio engineers slap some shit together
4. ????
5. Profit.
XSPStudios 1 year ago 3
i didnt know these recordings existed. it sounds amazingly well. isnt this the model which all scriabin performances should be measured against? (sorry for my english im sure i made grammar mistakes. i hope you understand me)
AristYdes 1 year ago
this is a composition, not a song
AristYdes 1 year ago
@AristYdes
I don't care what we call it. The English language is pretty damn relative anyway. Almost every literary device translates like crap in other languages.
The point of language is to convey a message, not get all stuck up on words. That's why I don't like lyrics. They get in the way of S-O-N-G-S!
Btw, I'm still calling them ALL that.
I sing with instruments.
It's a lot easier and my memory is better reserved for musical devices. I am not a poet. I'll leave that to you guys.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@AristYdes
And yes, I could call it a comp. The point remains. We could all speak Swahili and still understand this... Comp.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
A song has words. Hence Mendelssohn's 'Songs without words'.
LoxRandom 1 year ago
i can't quite hum to this...
oneleggoalie 1 year ago
@oneleggoalie
Lol. Same here; bad example on my end.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
I encountered Scriabin when a kid. It was NOT the right time to hear his genius. Now, as an almost 50-yr old, I'm completely sucked in to his mastery of the instrument, his moods which are not only so Russian, but so completely internal. I hear Chopin in his early works, and I hear Scriabin in his first big champion, Rachmanninof's music. The glorious chain of influence, admiration and love.
marginallymental 1 year ago
Genial composer and fantastic pianist...!!
dido93 1 year ago
I respect Scriabin so much. His work is genius, i feel like writing atonal is more complicated because we are conditioned to want to hear harmonizing notes or just notes that don't sound out of place.
wickedcp1911 1 year ago 3
It's nice to see him there with all of his chums, in the picture of him at the piano.
Lukecash12 1 year ago 2
siempre me ha gustado esta obra de Alexander Scriabin, y oirla interpretada por él mismo??? es simplemente conmovedor... se imaginan cuan impresionante sería tener regsitros de las obras de Frédéric Chópin interpretadas por el mismo???
tavo1239 1 year ago 2
@louiu: where did you get this recording? i am looking for a cd with original scriabin recordings. i browsed the internet for quite some time now but I couldn't find any. do you know one?
nougatbits 1 year ago 2
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da81able 1 year ago
like if there was kind of a Chopinesque thing behind.
rometube 1 year ago
Seems Scriabin was the octave king judging by those arpeggios in the middle section...
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago 2
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Qué vigor y brío tiene la obra tocada por Scriabin. Impresionante.
xwangfra 1 year ago
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xwangfra 1 year ago
Wow. What a brilliant pianist he was!
Flutist11 1 year ago 3
Surprisingly straightforward performance. I listened to Horowitz's recordings enraptured by the hidden meanings that his playing exposed. Turn out they were all red herrings.
demosj 1 year ago 3
I know exactly what you mean... This recording opened my eyes to the real power behind this piece; every moment where people "traditionally" linger he seems to blaze through with a mission, and odd moments where I haven't heard a pause he gives little breaths of time. All in all, almost a manifesto in how to play powerfully and delicately at the same time, and with a rhythmic drive that I've almost never heard before.
pianodan10 1 year ago 3
You know, Horowitz really brought much of Scriabin's music to the forefront. Tempestuously beautiful.
LouRotando 2 years ago
good piece, but I don't think that is Scriabin playing it. His hands were small and couldn't possibly play the second to last chord together like that.
wendlerkurt 2 years ago
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beeteep60 2 years ago
It's a piano roll recording, so Scriabin can adjust it to whatever he wants.
wiwi10191019 1 year ago 3
@wiwi10191019
How do you know that fot sure?
wespeswes 1 year ago
it was a delusion for all composers at that time (especially in ww1)
Well we only have préludes like Op 74. which are insanely beautiful..
MagicSkryabin 2 years ago
In my opinion, Scriabin's genius is the incredible evolution of his music during his musical life. (32 years)
That's why I think he is one of the best composer in all time. He trusted in music, he lived only for HIS music (maybe it sounds a bit pretentious for some people but look at what he had done)
I wonder what kind of music he would had written during ww1 and ww2 considering that
MagicSkryabin 2 years ago
I can't stop listening to this song. This might just be my favorite song ever.
manictiger 2 years ago 47
same here. and I don't even play the piano. and I thought scriabin was just modern...boy was I wrong. This is brilliant. Check out his concerto too.
jglsd1 2 years ago
This is one of Scriabin's relatively earlier works...his works did, in fact, get more "modern" as he aged, bordering on atonal.
I love his "modern" works, but many don't, which I can understand. Check out his 5th piano sonata, which is kind of on the fence of romanticism/modernism...it's really neat stuff.
Rheostatik 2 years ago 3
@manictiger Songs have lyrics :D
foxyjohnuk 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk
Not in my book.
Ever hum to yourself?
It's a song.
manictiger 1 year ago
@manictiger no it's a tune.... a song has lyrics! :D
foxyjohnuk 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk no it's a "piece"
vittorioaja 1 year ago
@vittorioaja mind your own, it's still not a song :D
foxyjohnuk 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk
Well, you go ahead and call it a tune. See how many women don't look at you funny.
manictiger 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk
I tune instruments. I listen to songs. This is how I choose to use the language.
If I called it an "Etude" every time, the term would wear out faster than my socks.
As for "piece", a gun is a gun, a song is a song and a piece is a penis!
Seriously, I hate classical elitism. Just listen to the song and quit trying to label it already!
It's really pathetic that I even need to justify how I use the English language.
Frikkin' circa-1943 Germany!
manictiger 1 year ago
@manictiger It's still not a song, songs have lyrics! :D
foxyjohnuk 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk
Wonderful! I'm glad we were able to cover some ground!
manictiger 1 year ago
@manictiger next topic?
foxyjohnuk 1 year ago
@foxyjohnuk
Lol. Sure, something less touchy...
Religion!!!
No really, don't; I'm kidding!
manictiger 1 year ago
@manictiger I call it lasagna.
iamthebirdman888 1 year ago
@iamthebirdman888
If I can't call it a song, I'll use your idea. I like lasagna.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@manictiger I don't hear him singing at all. It's just the piano!
wetteefun 1 year ago
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manictiger 1 year ago
@wetteefun
I just realized you're probably not aware. But yeah, this was talked about for several less than pleasant paragraphs that took away from just listening to the "tune", for lack of a less lame word.
manictiger 1 year ago
@manictiger COMPOSITION!!!
BassicStorm 1 year ago
@BassicStorm
I
Don't
Care.
Full stop.
manictiger 1 year ago
Goodness, I love this man's music...especially this piece
MikeJohnstonguitar 2 years ago
I always found it ironic that most etudes sound better than full fledged orchestras (just my observations and opinion).
manictiger 2 years ago 5
I gave this one listening, I had no prior knowledge of Scriabin, and already loved this like I had heard it thousands of times.
mahler151 2 years ago 25
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this is not Scriabin.
chei1 2 years ago
This is a reproduction of Scriabin.
advisorC101 2 years ago
Is Scriabin playing?
chei1 2 years ago
It's a piano-roll reproduction of Scriabin playing.
advisorC101 2 years ago
yes
Shogunmiyuchan 2 years ago
I don't have the technique to play this piece, but I'm going to try anyways. I just got the score today, and hearing these recordings is inspiring.
radudeATL 2 years ago
This's maybe, the Original rendition, played by Scriabin himself, because of the velocity and this style...very different to Horowitz 's or Kissin 's!
I love and I wonder if I'll play like this a day!!! God, I do love this piece!!!!!!!!!
Nganguen 2 years ago 3
jajajajajajajja!!!! completely right
smirnov21ruso 2 years ago
Yes, this is the real thing. Most play Scriabin as if he was Rachmaninov, including Horowitz. With Scriabin the most important things are rhythm and above all velocity which are here quite evident. The only problem with piano rolls are the reproduction of dynamic contrasts within chords. As there isn't much of that here one can safely say that this is a faithful reproduction of Scriabin's playing. The only question remaining is that of the tempo of the roll - which sounds just about right.
RollaArtis 2 years ago 3
this is NOT a person playing a piano morons, it's a piano roll and there is no way you can give it any type of human feel besides basic note input to be spewed back out randomly concerning nuance. Only the tempo might have been accurate but that's about all.
8aetroya8 2 years ago
actually the phrasing is preserved..
dynamics are a bit iffy, also because the hammers are different (harder)
acortot 2 years ago
heart-wrenching. you can feel his pain in the way he plays it. :(
violinartist1 2 years ago 3
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advisorC101 2 years ago
Just listen to that beautiful conclusion that so many (like Horowitz) are sloppy with. This is truly insane, as it is meant to be.
This is an invaluable document of his technical and musical BRILLIANCE.
advisorC101 2 years ago
maravillosa composicion, es dramatica y pasional,
bravo maestro¡¡
huteca70 2 years ago