any low level mason under the 30th degree may not know whats up yet but they will. what kind of man calls another grown man worshipful master? you fakes and frauds cant talk your way out of everything.
@pizzylee1978 this is not true! at all my friend! to use the term worshipful master is simply old school tradition steming from the old days of lords and masters of lands or guilds! respectfully!
masonry is just a part in the big picture of satan. i just recently have awoke to the amount of evil surrounding us in this world and it disgusts me. MASONS ARE LUCIFERIANS, END OF STORY!!!
@pizzylee1978 hello i am a 32nd degree scottish rite mason, i do not believe in any "devil" or lucifer! God in heaven in heaven is my guide, and i have taken every oath upon a holy bible. i would be honored to answer any questions you have to show you the truth! god bless you my friend!
The star is a symbol of the Masonic quest for self enlightenment. Nothing more than that. People, we are a social and charitable men's club that believes in religious tolerance, the brotherhood of man, God, the afterlife, and the intrinsic value of good. Nothing nefarious about any of that. Just because we're not an exclusively Christian organization does not mean we are bad. Neither does our unique use of certain symbols.
Who cares if there is a 5 pointed star in masonry? I guess all sherriff's are jews now because their badge is a six pointed star. Oh let us not forget that there are 50 pentacles on the U.S flag. Why do Christians feel so threatened by any symbol that was not created by them? So 111truth111 you are right. There are five pointed stars in masonry. So what!!!
@Cityj0hn USSR was created by the Masons. Russia till Yeltsin was under their dominance. When Putin came everything changed and Putin will fulfill the prophecy that wants Antichrist's world wages war against Russia.
Yes. Russia was created by English masons that all pay 50,- bucks annual club costs, while all lodges are completely separated. they Build the world obviously with that kind of power and organization.
This video confuses the Pythagoreanism religion and the Order of the Eastern Star with Freemasonry.
I advise you to go to a Freemasonry lodge tour when they have a public day it can be very enjoyable, you may even call then on the phone and ask anything. :)
freemasons are evil, u dont see that side of em in the media ofc. since after all they run it! so why would they put themselfs in trouble when they're so good at getting out of it? they operate in secrecy only for the masons to know of, no other.
and the free mason pentagram was based on the pentagrams used by greek philosiphers(sorry if i spelled that wrong but it just occurred to me that ive never actually needed to spell it before).and they represented the five elements. i know today we believe in only 4 elements as opposed to the five points but the greeks believed the stars were made of a fifth element. and we now know that they're balls of burning gas. anyway. the stars are not religious, but rather a sign of wisdom among scholars
The use of five point stars in satanism is similar to the use of the cross. the pentagram is a christian symbol symbolizing the five wounds of christ(or so i was taught).and the cross...well its meaning is obvious and in some places differencial. but nonetheless it is also used in satanism. the idea of this is to moch god by pointing his holy symbols downward toward hell(as some christians believe that hell is in the center if the earth). and that is why satanic pentagrams have two points up.
Five-pointed stars were once a Christian symbol. The pictures you show of evil demonic five point stars are no more evil than the stars in the flags of many nations, or the way that a child uses a five-point star to depict real stars.
Of course Solomon did have dominion over the demons but best you guys do some reading up on that stuff. It's far too lengthy to go into here. Of course Sol=Sun did not listen to the god of the hebrews and did also worship Baal, the Sun god.
We got a fine mixture of Egyptian and Jewish cocktail going on here with the Kabbalah, which means in hebrew to receive. To receive what? Why the light of course. You will find astrological symbols all over the place. The tree of life, which is very ancient and can even be traced back to the Sumerians.
Now, Ha Satan, in the Jewish religion is merely an angel of god with no free will of his own and is obedient to god, something like a District Attorney eh possums?
There is no such thing as the star of David. David never had a star. There is however the star of Moloch (Baal) the sun god whom Solomon erected a temple because of his marriage to the Queen of Sheba.
Masons just neglect to tell you which god they believe in. Half of them have no clue what the frik n frak is going on anyway. They want ppl to believe in a god makes the transition easier.
They do however believe that Christ is lucifer. Since Christ does say he is the light. Lucifer means light-bearer in Latin which is a MISTRANSLATION of the hebrew word heylel.
So what if Masonic symbols include stars? Do you have any idea what it means? Probably not, because you're not a Mason. Is it nefarious in any way? No!! The symbol of a star is probably one of the earliest symbols known to humanity. Since then many different groups have assigned different meanings to it. The star no more makes Masons satanic than the swastaka makes Buddists nazis.
@acromionbionic thank u also n upside down star used to be christian symbol at one time!!! bet ur chriatian friends never knew that!!! just like the upside down cross was too and still is a catholic symbol for st.peter!!!
@3rdEYEbeHolder The orientation of the star up=good, down=evil was a product of Eliphas Levi, an occultist writer in the mid-19th century. He opined this about 10 years after the Order of the Eastern Star was founded in 1850. OES is the only Masonic group which uses the inverted pentagram and has since altered it's design by rotating the star 36 degrees to ward off claims of satanic worship.
@acromionbionic. LOL You have just admitted that the inverted pentagram and masonry is indeed evil personified. Why have the pentagram inverted in the first place? only to rotate it 36 degrees to ward off claims of satanic worship?
@DJCW No it is simply a case of an urban legend (pentagrams=satanism) which became so widespread that it began to bring negative attention to OES. It is a case of guilt by association. That said, how is it that I "admitted" that Masonry and the inverted pentagram are evil personified? Just because YOU consider it evil does not make it so; remember that a symbol only carries the meaning that people attach to it. Evil to you, innocuous to me
@3rdEYEbeHolder And yes, I am a Mason. It makes no difference to me if people choose not to learn about Masons or Masonry, it does bother me if people instead make ludicrous claims of evil and devil worship against us as a whole, which is why I try to clarify vids like this one.
@DoodySNOT True, I was referring to the star as it is used in a Masonic Lodge though. Anyone who would say that the Eastern Star Logo stands for Satanism obviously does not know what the logo means. From your prolific writings of total crap, I will go ahead and assume that there is no use arguing with you further.
Well little possum I have sad news for you my precious. Go look up the Israeli Supreme Court. There you will find Mason symbols all over the damn place. Oh yes my possum and the fertility symbol (Ashtoreth/Ishtar/Baal). THE ILLUMINATI and the nefarious Sabbateans. You see Moloch plays a very big part in this and it ain't pretty. The Masons are the underlings my possums. Oh yes!
i will not continue discussion, however i would advise people 2 review the points i have made through out my post and learn from this. these people are master manipulators. Also to the people dont ever let people diverts you from the point of topic. a simple but very subtle tactic peace. (i will not respond 2 you marsoft anymore)
Actually, I will say you are either insane, or a very clever manipulator.
You obviously have opinions so these claims of yours about mysteriously vanished postings are either insanity or your attempt to get people to believe I have some sort of power to delete anything I want on youtube.
keep putting the truth out,dont get mislead by some of these freemasons.the topic would be does the freemasons have any relation using the 5 point star.the freemasonic reply would be no until you show him evidence which he can not deny anymore.level 2 would be misleading you out of the topic by stating another freemasonic reply as-> so what freemasons have a relation using the 5 point star! does that make it evil?.lol the point was why were u denying the 5 point star relation in the first place!
lol, yes the freemasons deny everything until you shove there own bullshit right in there face then they give reply like but that doesnt make it evil! lol non clever mason the point was not that it was evil but why did you deny it in the First place!!!(yes an example is the pentagram).... you c that's the only you can deal with some of these people. a lot misleading, straw man arguments.
@marsoft4647 lol @ another misleading Freemason argument that diverts away from the topic which is cleary shown in this video. you are hard of hearing. i just explained your tactics about you switching topics and you still do it by bring up some random shit on christians.lol please yes i will point you everytime you respond that way
Let me get this right, you throw up some random shit about pentagrams, and most modern Freemasons say, pentegrams mean nothing. I bring up the same random shit and you say I am diverting?
Talk about delusional.
The pentegram is nothing to do with modern freemasonry. So a lot of stars are shown in this video.
@marsoft4647 again you must be hard of hearing the topic of this video WAS about freemasons denying any relations using the pentagram & you call me staying 2 the topic RANDOM BULLSHIT!! PLEASE your not that clever & yes you bring Random bullshit and i can state specifically about Christians. why do you feel that showing the ill practices of Christians denying using the Pentagram some how clears the freemasons using the pentagram and denying it? what an idiot you are?
I don't deny the 5 pointed star is a symbol used in masonry, what I'd like to know is why that's a bad thing? why is the 5 pointed star wrong?
It originates from Pythagoras and continues into the christian church as the 5 wounds of Christ and the 5 revelations made to Mary.
It was a good symbol long before hollywood hijacked it and turned it into something evil or to be afraid of, so sad people have so little knowledge...
Most Christians will agree with much of what Albert Pike has to say about his own faith in Christianity. His discussion of baptism calls the Christian rite "a baptism of repentance, for the remission of sins: that is, the necessity of repentance proven by reformation." That "reformation" of the repentant baptized Christian is now being referred to as being "born again," which puts Pike's definition of the sacrament right in line with the beliefs of those who condemn him most angrily.
His critics, of course, never quote those points: Their aim is to extract comments about the many religions, sects, and cults described in Morals and Dogma, so that they can be cited, regardless of their original content, as "documentation" that Masons believe the teachings of those ancient cults, and must believe them. They know they are lying, but quoting out of context is too wonderful a tool to be abandoned."
There nothing but pagan worship stars,moon,sun and so on. Then the high ranks are nothing but lucifer/satan worshippers. Wow you guys should go to church and learn about the true God Jesus/Father/Holly Ghost and these Three are One.
@marsoft4647 Masons = pagan/devil worship masons should go to church learn about the true God Father/Son/Holy Ghost and these three are one. Or in other words God over the masons lucifer.
@marsoft4647 Sorry to hear that they most be blind if they are a mason. "The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. . . Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jesus) is also God. Alpert pike. You guys talk about the brother hood and that fake stuff yet your teacher pike started the kkk how ironic.
What higher degrees exactly? There are no higher degrees than Master Mason. there are appendant bodies, but they are not part of the Craft. I am in several.
Abert Pike was an american with his own opinions, he spoke for himself, he even said that in his book Morals and Dogma.
Also, instead of the accusations, show me a single shred of evidence he started the KKK. That is simply a lie and you know it.
@marsoft4647 If the guy where you get your modern rituals and ideas from calls it a religion it's a religion. Pike was the chief judicial officer he was one of the founders of the kkk. Higher degrees I don't know you guys like to keep secrets why for the brothers of lower degrees keep them dumb like pike says? Or you can't tell me?
He was one man in one Grand Lodge in One country. He was also nothing to do with the KKK.. If you had evidence of that you would not just keep repeating it, you would show your evidence.
@marsoft4647 Ok what ever you say you have manly p. Halls talk about the energy of lucifer in the mason also got Helena Blavatsky who was a true devil worship says lucifer also is god just like pike you should look her up if you don't know her. You guys have pentagrams and such and my favorite you guys and your owls who stand for lucifer look up the bohimien grove you might like the giant owl.
You actually believe the whole masonic world follows one american guys ideas? Really?
Does the whole of football (the english kind) follow one americans idea of what football is? Really, even if he wrote a very big book which he stated and the publishers stated was only his opinion. you still think that this book defines football?
Anyone who asks that question does not understand freemasonry, only knows of the scotish rite and assumes tht is the be all and end all of freemasonry.
@marsoft4647 man your really high up but yet they keep you in the dark you should of saved your money and not drink out of a skull. She was a co-mason look it up next? what about your owl and the bohemien grove? Aliester crowley was he a mason?
Alister crowley was indeed a mason then went on to form a religion.. Thelma I think was its name. He believed he was the beast 666. I believe the modern term for him is a fucking nut job.
I am not that into American politics so I don't know which ones were democrats and which were republicans, but here is the list of Presidents who were Freemasons.
George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Abram Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren Gamaliel Harding, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S Truman, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Gerald Ford.
We don't drink out of skulls you dan brown-illiterati,
Co-masonry is considered clandestine by most grand lodges around the world,
The owl has been a symbol of wisdom for millenia, so what?
Bohemian grove has nothing to do with masonry,
Aliester Crowley took things from Masonry and twisted them for his own purposes, thats like calling politics evil because one politician has sex with 500 hookers during his career because he has money from public spending accounts,
From all your talk about knowing what Freemasonry is and is not surely you know a little about the the one appendant body you keep harping on about right? Surly you know that the first degree you receive upon entrance is the 18th and the next is the 30th?
Or are you claiming that people actually have to go through every single degree? You know the others are given in name only right?
You as an expert on these things surely know that?
@bboyGrimes Are you a 33 degree mason? What does Scott brown have to do with this? The guy I was talking before said that he disagrees with the policy but that's the policy after I said drinking out of a human skull when you become a 33.
actually if you follow the conversation he was disagreeing with the policy about co-masonry,
drinking out a skull would be part of ritual, not policy, and no I'm not a 33rd degree mason, and neither is Dan Brown (who the hell is Scott Brown?) who recently suggested that the drinking of wine from a skull is part of the 33rd degree ritual, why would a non-mason know about a ritual seen only by the eyes of a handful of very loyal masons who would not leak that info to the media?
@bboyGrimes no he wasn't he's says no such thing as comason what does dan brown have to do with this I never seen his movie nor read his book? You don't think people left the lodge and talk about it? You do to drink out of a human skull when you hit 33.
@Atheisthateme well you're obviously either ignorant or blind, as I said scroll down, like any other person here can, and, oh wait what? that's right, you talk about the woman and co-masonry, he starts talking about the view the grand lodges have about it, the he says but I disagree, LOGIC.
@marsoft4647 lol @this co-masonry bullshit its still freemasonry, as you would call the first 3 degrees of the blue lodge & others for example Scottish rite freemasonry
Co-masonry much as I personally would like it to be, is not recognised by any regular masonic body to be Freemasonry. It is Clandestine and irregular.
Scottish Rite and the other appendent bodies are rooted in freemasonry but add to it. They are NOT the core of Freemasonry. Only Craft Freemasonry IS freemasonry. All apendent bodies add to but are not superior to Craft Freemasonry
@marsoft4647 thats not the point again, in no way did you deny that scottish rite freemasonry is not freemasonry & that was my point, stop playing your games
@marsoft4647 lol again you do not deny that SCOTTISH rite freemasonry is not Freemasonry and now some how you feel that you explaining my statement & adding on a positive connotations using the word because is going 2 some how negate or dilute my statement lol please
@marsoft4647 i will refrain from this conversation, i was reading posts earlier and if i could remember you had made a reply 2 someone stating that '' ok i do not deny freemasonry having connections with the 5 pointed star but does that makes it evil?'' i will just point the reason why came 2 post on this video was because of that but somehow now i cant find that post you made, it seems some how you you used some kind of black magic 2 wipe out the comment without leaving a removed mark. im done
Pike originated this ultra-secret organization under the name of The New and Reformed Palladian Rite. He established three supreme councils: one in Charleston, S.C. another in Rome, Italy, and the third in Berlin, Germany.
Historian Dr. Bataille wrote: "this super rite, which is Masonic Luciferian spiritism, must not be confused with the machinery of high Masonry, Palladism is the Cult of Satan in the inner shrines of a rite superimposed on all the rites. It is a cult, a religion."
Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff (or von Sebottendorf) was the alias of Adam Alfred Rudolf Glauer (November 9, 1875 May 8, 1945), who also occasionally used another alias, Erwin Torre. He was an important figure in the activities of the Thule Society, a post-World War I German occultist organization that influenced many members of the NSDAP. He was a Freemason[1] and a practitioner of meditation, astrology, numerology, and alchemy[
So this one man amongst many things was supposed to be a Freemason. I guess you missed out that given the time he was also supposed to be a christian.
Hitler and his Nazi party exterminated every Freemason they could find.
Can you answer that CBALLEN. How many authors have written about freemasonry while inside the craft, and how many of them make the claims you seem to take for granted about freemasonry?
All the authoritative writers on Masonry,that I have read,all were in the cult at the time they wrote about it.There is no escaping the FACT that it is a religion and a Lucifierian one at that,the experts all agree.
You also keep picking authors from the same time period. Nothing really old and nothing really modern. Just from the time when occultism was making a big come back and it was the trendy thing to be involved in.
These authors were a product of thier times. If they had written today, I am sure they would be talking about freemasonry and the internet.
On July 16th, 1782, at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad, an alliance between Illuminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed. This pact joined together all the leading secret societies of the day and united "not less than 3 million members all over the world." The actual effect of this merger on the subsequent history of the world has never been appreciated by historians. Most of which have belonged to one or the other of the secret societies and have sworn not to expose its secrets.
That is the secret name of the Masonic god, the "Lost Word" in the rite of the Royal Arch degree. "Jao" is the Greek name for the god of the Jewish Gnostics, laldabaoth or lao. "Bul" is a rendering of the name Ba'al and "On" is the Babylonian name of Osiris.
do you realize that every key federal building, from the White House to the Capitol Building, Has had a cornerstone laid in a Masonic Ritual and is the depositary of Masonic Paraphernalia? If we were talking about the one true God, it would be wonderful; this is not the case. The cornerstones of all these buildings have been laid in Masonic ritual, dedicated to the demonic god of Masonry, Jao-Bul-On.
To find alternative sources to what FM teaches,just go to any website that teaches BLACK MAGIC AND SATAN WORSHIP.Free masonry is a common denominator.The popular picture of Baphomet was designed and drawn by one of your brothers Eliphas Lévi.
So in the 300 or so years of Freemasonry. You can find a handful of guys who were also involved in other things like Rosecrusianism and such.
This proves to you that Masonry is a Religion? Seriously?
Given the current 5 million members world wide (a fairly accurate estimate I think). And the fact that freemasonry is not a religion. I think you will find many brothers who fit exactly the picture you are painting. This says nothign about Freemasonry itself/
You repeatedly fail to listen to what I am saying. Freemasonry is a secular fraternity.
Individual brothers are free to worship and believe how they wish.
We will not dictate to them that they must believe in Christ or Allah or Bhuda or Thor. They are free to worship and believe whatever devinity they wish to believe in.
Whether IT'S Pike or Duncan's Encyclopedia on FM A L L AUTHORITATIVE BOOKS TEACH THAT IT IS A LUCIFIRIAN RELIGION! How'd you miss this?How come everyone knows this but you?
There ARE no Authorative books. How did you miss that? Every book you are refering to is an individuals enterpretation, based on the times they were writing in and their own opinions.
Write a letter to any Grand Lodge. The will say the same thing.
Albert Pike was well respected, but his opinions were his own. They may even add that they recommend reading his book for anyone serious about freemasonry to further their education, not to blindly believe everything he had to say.
Pike was the POPE of Free Masonry.I am not a Roman Catholic,but devout R.C.s believe that the Pope speaks for God,and he does according to their doctrine,he is their authority!Pike,in the same way ,is the AUTHORITY IN FREE MASONRY whether you choose to admit it or not.He was the MAN who dictated the way things are in contemporary FM to all the other sub supreme leaders.
Most of my comments,although to you,are directed at "christian masons".I pray that the Lord will save you,but as an unbeliever you don't have the Holy Spirit to convict you,but you should recognise that lying is wrong just the same,since God has written His Law on your heart.
, Albert Pike, Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,.Albert Pike is as autoritative as they come,he was the POPE OF FREEMASONRY,IF YOU WILL.yet marsoft4647 claims that he doesn't know anything about FM and everything he wrote was merely his opinion.
Quit projecting. Just because you cannot understand an organisation that is not a Religion, does not make Freemasonry a religion.
I never said Albert Pike knew nothing about freemasonry, I said he does not speak for freemasonry. Even in his book he stated it is all HIS OWN OPINION.
The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound.
It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgement. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are not embodied as part of the doctrines of the Rite.
What an idiot. I suppose all police officers in the the US are in a gigantic secret cult because they wear a "five pointed star" on their chest!
Ri...ght.....
Ibanez59 1 month ago
can i be in a masonic gang of secrecy too? So childish
cicatrixta 2 months ago
here is why masonry is so good at collecting fools to be tools as it says, the son amid mary, MAsonRY
BankofSpirit 6 months ago
you guy or idiots it only takes one day to be a 32nd degree mason any member of the sr is a 32nd dumb ass a iam a 32nd degree mason
honky410 9 months ago
@honky410 this is very true!
BroMasterMason 7 months ago
any low level mason under the 30th degree may not know whats up yet but they will. what kind of man calls another grown man worshipful master? you fakes and frauds cant talk your way out of everything.
pizzylee1978 11 months ago
@pizzylee1978 this is not true! at all my friend! to use the term worshipful master is simply old school tradition steming from the old days of lords and masters of lands or guilds! respectfully!
BroMasterMason 7 months ago
masonry is just a part in the big picture of satan. i just recently have awoke to the amount of evil surrounding us in this world and it disgusts me. MASONS ARE LUCIFERIANS, END OF STORY!!!
pizzylee1978 11 months ago
@pizzylee1978 hello i am a 32nd degree scottish rite mason, i do not believe in any "devil" or lucifer! God in heaven in heaven is my guide, and i have taken every oath upon a holy bible. i would be honored to answer any questions you have to show you the truth! god bless you my friend!
BroMasterMason 7 months ago
The star is a symbol of the Masonic quest for self enlightenment. Nothing more than that. People, we are a social and charitable men's club that believes in religious tolerance, the brotherhood of man, God, the afterlife, and the intrinsic value of good. Nothing nefarious about any of that. Just because we're not an exclusively Christian organization does not mean we are bad. Neither does our unique use of certain symbols.
richcapo 11 months ago
This video lame-o. It's not satanists or aliens behind the NWO, they are humans who worship greed, money, and power.
cheapcape 11 months ago
Who cares if there is a 5 pointed star in masonry? I guess all sherriff's are jews now because their badge is a six pointed star. Oh let us not forget that there are 50 pentacles on the U.S flag. Why do Christians feel so threatened by any symbol that was not created by them? So 111truth111 you are right. There are five pointed stars in masonry. So what!!!
jv1701 1 year ago
@jv1701 exactly
cheapcape 11 months ago
So would you say Russia has something to do with it too because they had a pentagram as a symbol during the USSR ?
Cityj0hn 1 year ago
@Cityj0hn USSR was created by the Masons. Russia till Yeltsin was under their dominance. When Putin came everything changed and Putin will fulfill the prophecy that wants Antichrist's world wages war against Russia.
vasilisv 1 year ago
@vasilisv
Yes. Russia was created by English masons that all pay 50,- bucks annual club costs, while all lodges are completely separated. they Build the world obviously with that kind of power and organization.
This video confuses the Pythagoreanism religion and the Order of the Eastern Star with Freemasonry.
I advise you to go to a Freemasonry lodge tour when they have a public day it can be very enjoyable, you may even call then on the phone and ask anything. :)
Cityj0hn 1 year ago
Please, What's the name of the song, or the Artist?
It's very interesting music.
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NIGGAKILLAMF 1 year ago
freemasons are evil, u dont see that side of em in the media ofc. since after all they run it! so why would they put themselfs in trouble when they're so good at getting out of it? they operate in secrecy only for the masons to know of, no other.
ChainsmokingPothead 1 year ago
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rwtruler 1 year ago
and the free mason pentagram was based on the pentagrams used by greek philosiphers(sorry if i spelled that wrong but it just occurred to me that ive never actually needed to spell it before).and they represented the five elements. i know today we believe in only 4 elements as opposed to the five points but the greeks believed the stars were made of a fifth element. and we now know that they're balls of burning gas. anyway. the stars are not religious, but rather a sign of wisdom among scholars
ThePickleinajar 1 year ago
The use of five point stars in satanism is similar to the use of the cross. the pentagram is a christian symbol symbolizing the five wounds of christ(or so i was taught).and the cross...well its meaning is obvious and in some places differencial. but nonetheless it is also used in satanism. the idea of this is to moch god by pointing his holy symbols downward toward hell(as some christians believe that hell is in the center if the earth). and that is why satanic pentagrams have two points up.
ThePickleinajar 1 year ago
Five-pointed stars were once a Christian symbol. The pictures you show of evil demonic five point stars are no more evil than the stars in the flags of many nations, or the way that a child uses a five-point star to depict real stars.
You conspiracy lunatics are great.
indylaw06 1 year ago
@indylaw06 actually the pentagram is way older than christianity therefore it is not a Christian symbol. it was just used by Christians.
Thesecoilspinnet 1 year ago
check out my video about how the masons trick little girls into summoning demons.
exjobie 1 year ago
Annie yohdaht mah zeh ha mafteach Shlomo!
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
yes possums look at the Keys of Solomon he had dominion over the spirits and demons! Yes oh yes!
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DoodySNOT 1 year ago
So many gods eh possums?
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
So Solomon worshipped the god of the hebrews and the sun god which of course vexes the hebrew god. This continued for about ...um...400 years?
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
Of course Solomon did have dominion over the demons but best you guys do some reading up on that stuff. It's far too lengthy to go into here. Of course Sol=Sun did not listen to the god of the hebrews and did also worship Baal, the Sun god.
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
We got a fine mixture of Egyptian and Jewish cocktail going on here with the Kabbalah, which means in hebrew to receive. To receive what? Why the light of course. You will find astrological symbols all over the place. The tree of life, which is very ancient and can even be traced back to the Sumerians.
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
Now, Ha Satan, in the Jewish religion is merely an angel of god with no free will of his own and is obedient to god, something like a District Attorney eh possums?
There is no such thing as the star of David. David never had a star. There is however the star of Moloch (Baal) the sun god whom Solomon erected a temple because of his marriage to the Queen of Sheba.
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
Masons just neglect to tell you which god they believe in. Half of them have no clue what the frik n frak is going on anyway. They want ppl to believe in a god makes the transition easier.
They do however believe that Christ is lucifer. Since Christ does say he is the light. Lucifer means light-bearer in Latin which is a MISTRANSLATION of the hebrew word heylel.
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
So what if Masonic symbols include stars? Do you have any idea what it means? Probably not, because you're not a Mason. Is it nefarious in any way? No!! The symbol of a star is probably one of the earliest symbols known to humanity. Since then many different groups have assigned different meanings to it. The star no more makes Masons satanic than the swastaka makes Buddists nazis.
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@acromionbionic
They are trying to link the stars to pentagrams and forgetting that the pentagram is a CHRISTIAN symbol for the 5 wounds of CHRIST.
marsoft4647 1 year ago
@marsoft4647 Excellent point! I suppose that is the problem with symbols and allusion, they often require guided interpretation to understand.
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@acromionbionic thank u also n upside down star used to be christian symbol at one time!!! bet ur chriatian friends never knew that!!! just like the upside down cross was too and still is a catholic symbol for st.peter!!!
SpartanR73 1 year ago
@acromionbionic You are the son of the widow acromionbionic?
The star represent descension as apposed to the upright star representing ascension.
3rdEYEbeHolder 1 year ago
@3rdEYEbeHolder The orientation of the star up=good, down=evil was a product of Eliphas Levi, an occultist writer in the mid-19th century. He opined this about 10 years after the Order of the Eastern Star was founded in 1850. OES is the only Masonic group which uses the inverted pentagram and has since altered it's design by rotating the star 36 degrees to ward off claims of satanic worship.
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@acromionbionic. LOL You have just admitted that the inverted pentagram and masonry is indeed evil personified. Why have the pentagram inverted in the first place? only to rotate it 36 degrees to ward off claims of satanic worship?
Highly illogical.
DJCW 1 year ago
@DJCW No it is simply a case of an urban legend (pentagrams=satanism) which became so widespread that it began to bring negative attention to OES. It is a case of guilt by association. That said, how is it that I "admitted" that Masonry and the inverted pentagram are evil personified? Just because YOU consider it evil does not make it so; remember that a symbol only carries the meaning that people attach to it. Evil to you, innocuous to me
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@3rdEYEbeHolder And yes, I am a Mason. It makes no difference to me if people choose not to learn about Masons or Masonry, it does bother me if people instead make ludicrous claims of evil and devil worship against us as a whole, which is why I try to clarify vids like this one.
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@acromionbionic
um...one doesn't have to be a Mason to understand what the stars mean.
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
@DoodySNOT True, I was referring to the star as it is used in a Masonic Lodge though. Anyone who would say that the Eastern Star Logo stands for Satanism obviously does not know what the logo means. From your prolific writings of total crap, I will go ahead and assume that there is no use arguing with you further.
acromionbionic 1 year ago
@acromionbionic
Well little possum I have sad news for you my precious. Go look up the Israeli Supreme Court. There you will find Mason symbols all over the damn place. Oh yes my possum and the fertility symbol (Ashtoreth/Ishtar/Baal). THE ILLUMINATI and the nefarious Sabbateans. You see Moloch plays a very big part in this and it ain't pretty. The Masons are the underlings my possums. Oh yes!
DoodySNOT 1 year ago
okay....they have stars. So
distantmessenger 1 year ago
i will not continue discussion, however i would advise people 2 review the points i have made through out my post and learn from this. these people are master manipulators. Also to the people dont ever let people diverts you from the point of topic. a simple but very subtle tactic peace. (i will not respond 2 you marsoft anymore)
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
You are simply insane.
You are now claiming to have responded to postings I did not make, and they have simply vanished.
Fucking moron.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Actually, I will say you are either insane, or a very clever manipulator.
You obviously have opinions so these claims of yours about mysteriously vanished postings are either insanity or your attempt to get people to believe I have some sort of power to delete anything I want on youtube.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
but i dont think your exactly an idiot but just good @ misleading peopl, which you probably been taught 2
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
So you think an idiot is good at misleading people?
Boy your opinion of people is low.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Let me point out again that the Scottish Rite or any other Order is NOT FREEMASONRY, they are appendent bodies.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
They Are a part of Freemasonry, but NOT FREEMASONRY itself. Only the 3 degrees are FREEMASONRY ITSELF.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
keep putting the truth out,dont get mislead by some of these freemasons.the topic would be does the freemasons have any relation using the 5 point star.the freemasonic reply would be no until you show him evidence which he can not deny anymore.level 2 would be misleading you out of the topic by stating another freemasonic reply as-> so what freemasons have a relation using the 5 point star! does that make it evil?.lol the point was why were u denying the 5 point star relation in the first place!
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
lol, yes the freemasons deny everything until you shove there own bullshit right in there face then they give reply like but that doesnt make it evil! lol non clever mason the point was not that it was evil but why did you deny it in the First place!!!(yes an example is the pentagram).... you c that's the only you can deal with some of these people. a lot misleading, straw man arguments.
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Talk about some random paranoid shit.
You want to talk about straw man arguments? You just made one.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 you call the truth Random Paranoid shit, lol typical freemason
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Let me put it this way
Christians once more commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus.
Do you see any christians around here declaring the pentagram to be a christian symbol?
Like having your bullshit pushed in your face?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 lol @ another misleading Freemason argument that diverts away from the topic which is cleary shown in this video. you are hard of hearing. i just explained your tactics about you switching topics and you still do it by bring up some random shit on christians.lol please yes i will point you everytime you respond that way
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Let me get this right, you throw up some random shit about pentagrams, and most modern Freemasons say, pentegrams mean nothing. I bring up the same random shit and you say I am diverting?
Talk about delusional.
The pentegram is nothing to do with modern freemasonry. So a lot of stars are shown in this video.
A star is not a pentegram.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 again you must be hard of hearing the topic of this video WAS about freemasons denying any relations using the pentagram & you call me staying 2 the topic RANDOM BULLSHIT!! PLEASE your not that clever & yes you bring Random bullshit and i can state specifically about Christians. why do you feel that showing the ill practices of Christians denying using the Pentagram some how clears the freemasons using the pentagram and denying it? what an idiot you are?
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Freemasons have no connection at all to the pentagram. That is clear.
The Masonic Lodge has nothing at all to do with the pentagram.
Why do you feel that a few stars in a few pictures mean that all Freemasons use the pentagram?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
I don't deny the 5 pointed star is a symbol used in masonry, what I'd like to know is why that's a bad thing? why is the 5 pointed star wrong?
It originates from Pythagoras and continues into the christian church as the 5 wounds of Christ and the 5 revelations made to Mary.
It was a good symbol long before hollywood hijacked it and turned it into something evil or to be afraid of, so sad people have so little knowledge...
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
Most Christians will agree with much of what Albert Pike has to say about his own faith in Christianity. His discussion of baptism calls the Christian rite "a baptism of repentance, for the remission of sins: that is, the necessity of repentance proven by reformation." That "reformation" of the repentant baptized Christian is now being referred to as being "born again," which puts Pike's definition of the sacrament right in line with the beliefs of those who condemn him most angrily.
(cont)
marsoft4647 2 years ago
His critics, of course, never quote those points: Their aim is to extract comments about the many religions, sects, and cults described in Morals and Dogma, so that they can be cited, regardless of their original content, as "documentation" that Masons believe the teachings of those ancient cults, and must believe them. They know they are lying, but quoting out of context is too wonderful a tool to be abandoned."
marsoft4647 2 years ago
There nothing but pagan worship stars,moon,sun and so on. Then the high ranks are nothing but lucifer/satan worshippers. Wow you guys should go to church and learn about the true God Jesus/Father/Holly Ghost and these Three are One.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Not sure from your comment who you are agreeing/disagreeing with there.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 Masons = pagan/devil worship masons should go to church learn about the true God Father/Son/Holy Ghost and these three are one. Or in other words God over the masons lucifer.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Freemasonry is not a religion. It is a secular society. Many of my brothers are christians.
You are simply misinformed.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 Sorry to hear that they most be blind if they are a mason. "The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. . . Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jesus) is also God. Alpert pike. You guys talk about the brother hood and that fake stuff yet your teacher pike started the kkk how ironic.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
What higher degrees exactly? There are no higher degrees than Master Mason. there are appendant bodies, but they are not part of the Craft. I am in several.
Abert Pike was an american with his own opinions, he spoke for himself, he even said that in his book Morals and Dogma.
Also, instead of the accusations, show me a single shred of evidence he started the KKK. That is simply a lie and you know it.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 If the guy where you get your modern rituals and ideas from calls it a religion it's a religion. Pike was the chief judicial officer he was one of the founders of the kkk. Higher degrees I don't know you guys like to keep secrets why for the brothers of lower degrees keep them dumb like pike says? Or you can't tell me?
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
He was one man in one Grand Lodge in One country. He was also nothing to do with the KKK.. If you had evidence of that you would not just keep repeating it, you would show your evidence.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 Ok what ever you say you have manly p. Halls talk about the energy of lucifer in the mason also got Helena Blavatsky who was a true devil worship says lucifer also is god just like pike you should look her up if you don't know her. You guys have pentagrams and such and my favorite you guys and your owls who stand for lucifer look up the bohimien grove you might like the giant owl.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Manly P Halls was also a Roescrucian. Helena Blavatsky was not a mason.
Only men are Freemasons.
Next.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
You actually believe the whole masonic world follows one american guys ideas? Really?
Does the whole of football (the english kind) follow one americans idea of what football is? Really, even if he wrote a very big book which he stated and the publishers stated was only his opinion. you still think that this book defines football?
Truly?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 what degree are you?
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Anyone who asks that question does not understand freemasonry, only knows of the scotish rite and assumes tht is the be all and end all of freemasonry.
The scotish rite is an appendant body.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
To answer your question directly I am a Master Mason, a Mark Master Mason and a Royal Arch Mason.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 man your really high up but yet they keep you in the dark you should of saved your money and not drink out of a skull. She was a co-mason look it up next? what about your owl and the bohemien grove? Aliester crowley was he a mason?
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Look up the consitutions and the landmarks.
No such thing as a co-mason in regular masonry.
Alister crowley was indeed a mason then went on to form a religion.. Thelma I think was its name. He believed he was the beast 666. I believe the modern term for him is a fucking nut job.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
You really know nothing at all, you just get shit from anti masonry web sites.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
finally the truth.
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
Look it up.. Show me any Grand Lodge in England, the USA, Canada, Scotland, Ireland, or many many other counries that recognises co-masonry.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
BTW: I disagree with the policy, but it IS the policy and has been since day one.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
As to this bohemien grove? I can only think you are refering to the campground located at 20601 Bohemian Avenue, in Monte Rio, California.
This is nothing to do with Freemasonry at all.
Another attempt to join freemasonry to the actions of individuals.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
This boemian grove has included every Republican U.S. president since 1923.
It also included a few democrats.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 good you know how to use google.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 How many of thoose presidents are masons?
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
I am not that into American politics so I don't know which ones were democrats and which were republicans, but here is the list of Presidents who were Freemasons.
George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Abram Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren Gamaliel Harding, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S Truman, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Gerald Ford.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
We don't drink out of skulls you dan brown-illiterati,
Co-masonry is considered clandestine by most grand lodges around the world,
The owl has been a symbol of wisdom for millenia, so what?
Bohemian grove has nothing to do with masonry,
Aliester Crowley took things from Masonry and twisted them for his own purposes, thats like calling politics evil because one politician has sex with 500 hookers during his career because he has money from public spending accounts,
Get with it.
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
From all your talk about knowing what Freemasonry is and is not surely you know a little about the the one appendant body you keep harping on about right? Surly you know that the first degree you receive upon entrance is the 18th and the next is the 30th?
Or are you claiming that people actually have to go through every single degree? You know the others are given in name only right?
You as an expert on these things surely know that?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme
You muppet.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
I'd recommend a class on logic and maybe eat some fish to increase your brain power,
Can anything but sewage come from your keyboard?
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@bboyGrimes Are you a 33 degree mason? What does Scott brown have to do with this? The guy I was talking before said that he disagrees with the policy but that's the policy after I said drinking out of a human skull when you become a 33.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
actually if you follow the conversation he was disagreeing with the policy about co-masonry,
drinking out a skull would be part of ritual, not policy, and no I'm not a 33rd degree mason, and neither is Dan Brown (who the hell is Scott Brown?) who recently suggested that the drinking of wine from a skull is part of the 33rd degree ritual, why would a non-mason know about a ritual seen only by the eyes of a handful of very loyal masons who would not leak that info to the media?
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@bboyGrimes no he wasn't he's says no such thing as comason what does dan brown have to do with this I never seen his movie nor read his book? You don't think people left the lodge and talk about it? You do to drink out of a human skull when you hit 33.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme scroll down and look for yourself, and as far as the skull, keep on believing it, really doesn't matter to me...
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@bboyGrimes I'm the one that was talking to him I think I know when he said it. He says right under it and it goes with the skull not crowly.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@Atheisthateme well you're obviously either ignorant or blind, as I said scroll down, like any other person here can, and, oh wait what? that's right, you talk about the woman and co-masonry, he starts talking about the view the grand lodges have about it, the he says but I disagree, LOGIC.
bboyGrimes 2 years ago
@bboyGrimes Logic you scroll down he says no such thing as comasons learn how to read before assuming things.
Atheisthateme 2 years ago
@bboyGrimes
You are correct. I was disagreeing with the policy on co-masonry.
The skull crap is just stuff from a pulp novel.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 lol @this co-masonry bullshit its still freemasonry, as you would call the first 3 degrees of the blue lodge & others for example Scottish rite freemasonry
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Co-masonry much as I personally would like it to be, is not recognised by any regular masonic body to be Freemasonry. It is Clandestine and irregular.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Scottish Rite and the other appendent bodies are rooted in freemasonry but add to it. They are NOT the core of Freemasonry. Only Craft Freemasonry IS freemasonry. All apendent bodies add to but are not superior to Craft Freemasonry
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 thats not the point again, in no way did you deny that scottish rite freemasonry is not freemasonry & that was my point, stop playing your games
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Because Freemasonry is the three degrees. Any other degrees are from appendent bodies.
Do you really know so little about Freemasonry?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 lol again you do not deny that SCOTTISH rite freemasonry is not Freemasonry and now some how you feel that you explaining my statement & adding on a positive connotations using the word because is going 2 some how negate or dilute my statement lol please
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Are you stupid or what? Scottish Rite Freemasonry is an appendent body.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Let me spell it out for you. Freemasonry is the first three degrees.
All the other degrees confered by the orders are additional or side degrees. They are additional to Freemasonry itself.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 i will refrain from this conversation, i was reading posts earlier and if i could remember you had made a reply 2 someone stating that '' ok i do not deny freemasonry having connections with the 5 pointed star but does that makes it evil?'' i will just point the reason why came 2 post on this video was because of that but somehow now i cant find that post you made, it seems some how you you used some kind of black magic 2 wipe out the comment without leaving a removed mark. im done
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
OK now you are really getting irational.
You think I used BLACK MAGIC to make a posting vanish?
REALLY?
ARE YOU insane?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@AVeLLiiii
Would you care to explain exactly what your problem with freemasonry is?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 No it's not..skull and bones is a cult.
Winter077 1 year ago
@Winter077
I really don't care about Skull and Bones, it is not a part of Freemasonry.
marsoft4647 1 year ago
"Masonry is not a religion.
He who makes of it a religious belief, falsifies and denaturalizes it."
Albert Pike (1809-1891); "Morals and Dogma (p. 161)
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Pike originated this ultra-secret organization under the name of The New and Reformed Palladian Rite. He established three supreme councils: one in Charleston, S.C. another in Rome, Italy, and the third in Berlin, Germany.
Historian Dr. Bataille wrote: "this super rite, which is Masonic Luciferian spiritism, must not be confused with the machinery of high Masonry, Palladism is the Cult of Satan in the inner shrines of a rite superimposed on all the rites. It is a cult, a religion."
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
So ultra secret that you and every anti-mason site out there has all the inner details.
Do you have nothing better to do than slander what you don't understand?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
And by the way. The whole Palladism rubbish is just an extension of the Taxil Hoax.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff (or von Sebottendorf) was the alias of Adam Alfred Rudolf Glauer (November 9, 1875 May 8, 1945), who also occasionally used another alias, Erwin Torre. He was an important figure in the activities of the Thule Society, a post-World War I German occultist organization that influenced many members of the NSDAP. He was a Freemason[1] and a practitioner of meditation, astrology, numerology, and alchemy[
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
So this one man amongst many things was supposed to be a Freemason. I guess you missed out that given the time he was also supposed to be a christian.
Hitler and his Nazi party exterminated every Freemason they could find.
NEXT
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Hitler didn't want the competition.Why did so many Masonic writers claim that it was a Lucifierian religion?
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
If by so many you mean 3 or 4? Then I can say, not so many at all.
How many masonic writers have there been? compare that to how many make the claims you state masonic writers have made.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Can you answer that CBALLEN. How many authors have written about freemasonry while inside the craft, and how many of them make the claims you seem to take for granted about freemasonry?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
All the authoritative writers on Masonry,that I have read,all were in the cult at the time they wrote about it.There is no escaping the FACT that it is a religion and a Lucifierian one at that,the experts all agree.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
ther are no authoriative writers on masonry.
They are simply expressing their own opinions which were a prouct of the times they lived in.
Freemasonry is not a religion not matte how often you use the word fact.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Only people you have specifically looked for seem to agree.
You have ignored thousands of writings about freemasonry that make no such connections at all.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
You also keep picking authors from the same time period. Nothing really old and nothing really modern. Just from the time when occultism was making a big come back and it was the trendy thing to be involved in.
These authors were a product of thier times. If they had written today, I am sure they would be talking about freemasonry and the internet.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
They'd be a lot more careful today about the true nature of the beast,that's for sure.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
A few popular authors seem to support your position. Big whoop.
You cannot escape the fact that if you believe they meant what you think they did or not, it is still only their personal opinions.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Since the proverbial cat was let out of the bag,it is only natural that your group would have to do a lot of denying and back peddling.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Not one single person you have listed wrote on behalf of Freemasonry as a whole or even claimed to.
Each and every one of them was also involved in other things and also clearly stated that what they wrote was their own opinion.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
The final goal for FM is to usher in a 1 world government,with a 1 world leader,and a 1 world religion,plain and simple.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Just your opinion. You have no facts to back that up. Not a single fact.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
At the time when many books were written,it was never dreamed that FM writings would get out into the main stream like they have.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Never dremed they would get into the main stream? Those authors PUBLISHED the books.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
On July 16th, 1782, at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad, an alliance between Illuminism and Freemasonry was finally sealed. This pact joined together all the leading secret societies of the day and united "not less than 3 million members all over the world." The actual effect of this merger on the subsequent history of the world has never been appreciated by historians. Most of which have belonged to one or the other of the secret societies and have sworn not to expose its secrets.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
That is the secret name of the Masonic god, the "Lost Word" in the rite of the Royal Arch degree. "Jao" is the Greek name for the god of the Jewish Gnostics, laldabaoth or lao. "Bul" is a rendering of the name Ba'al and "On" is the Babylonian name of Osiris.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
do you realize that every key federal building, from the White House to the Capitol Building, Has had a cornerstone laid in a Masonic Ritual and is the depositary of Masonic Paraphernalia? If we were talking about the one true God, it would be wonderful; this is not the case. The cornerstones of all these buildings have been laid in Masonic ritual, dedicated to the demonic god of Masonry, Jao-Bul-On.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
More rubbish. Masonic ritual has nothing to do with any particular god.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
I already answered that one. That is one persons opinion. Another is
Jah - I am
Bul - On High (Or in Heaven)
On - In Strength.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
More myths. You going to new anti-mason web sites now?
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Come on there are two of you on the same channel now. I have been talking to you both seperately at the same time.
What is wrong, are you scared, come on give me your so called evidence.
BRING IT ON.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@marsoft4647 no we're sick of your bullshit.
ET253 2 years ago
Come on then.
BRING IT!
marsoft4647 2 years ago
To find alternative sources to what FM teaches,just go to any website that teaches BLACK MAGIC AND SATAN WORSHIP.Free masonry is a common denominator.The popular picture of Baphomet was designed and drawn by one of your brothers Eliphas Lévi.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
You grow wilder and wilder in your accusations.
You have NOTHING at all to support your position.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
So in the 300 or so years of Freemasonry. You can find a handful of guys who were also involved in other things like Rosecrusianism and such.
This proves to you that Masonry is a Religion? Seriously?
Given the current 5 million members world wide (a fairly accurate estimate I think). And the fact that freemasonry is not a religion. I think you will find many brothers who fit exactly the picture you are painting. This says nothign about Freemasonry itself/
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
You repeatedly fail to listen to what I am saying. Freemasonry is a secular fraternity.
Individual brothers are free to worship and believe how they wish.
We will not dictate to them that they must believe in Christ or Allah or Bhuda or Thor. They are free to worship and believe whatever devinity they wish to believe in.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
If some brothers worshiped Satan. That is up to them.
If some worship Allah that is up to them and so on and so forth.
It is THEIR BUSINESS who or what they believe in.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Whether IT'S Pike or Duncan's Encyclopedia on FM A L L AUTHORITATIVE BOOKS TEACH THAT IT IS A LUCIFIRIAN RELIGION! How'd you miss this?How come everyone knows this but you?
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
There ARE no Authorative books. How did you miss that? Every book you are refering to is an individuals enterpretation, based on the times they were writing in and their own opinions.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
There is not such thing as an authoritative book on freemasonry.
So a few guys who had those leanings, enterpreted the lessons how they wanted to. Big deal.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Write a letter to any Grand Lodge. The will say the same thing.
Albert Pike was well respected, but his opinions were his own. They may even add that they recommend reading his book for anyone serious about freemasonry to further their education, not to blindly believe everything he had to say.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Pike was the POPE of Free Masonry.I am not a Roman Catholic,but devout R.C.s believe that the Pope speaks for God,and he does according to their doctrine,he is their authority!Pike,in the same way ,is the AUTHORITY IN FREE MASONRY whether you choose to admit it or not.He was the MAN who dictated the way things are in contemporary FM to all the other sub supreme leaders.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Pike was a single man with his own opinions.
Pike spoke with no authority but his own.
He dictated nothing, he even stated his opinions were his own.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Pike was the pope of jack shit.
He was one man with one opinion.
You just cannot cope with that.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
He was one man in one constitution in one country.
He had and has no authority at all. His own grand lodge did not give him any authority, nor did he claim any.
Read the forward to HIS OWN BOOK.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
Most of my comments,although to you,are directed at "christian masons".I pray that the Lord will save you,but as an unbeliever you don't have the Holy Spirit to convict you,but you should recognise that lying is wrong just the same,since God has written His Law on your heart.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
, Albert Pike, Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry,.Albert Pike is as autoritative as they come,he was the POPE OF FREEMASONRY,IF YOU WILL.yet marsoft4647 claims that he doesn't know anything about FM and everything he wrote was merely his opinion.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
No. He was one man, well respected in America.
Authoritative as they come means he had no authority at all.
NOBODY speaks for freemasonry as a whole.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
Quit projecting. Just because you cannot understand an organisation that is not a Religion, does not make Freemasonry a religion.
I never said Albert Pike knew nothing about freemasonry, I said he does not speak for freemasonry. Even in his book he stated it is all HIS OWN OPINION.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
@CBALLEN
The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound.
From the preface by Albert Pike.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgement. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are not embodied as part of the doctrines of the Rite.
marsoft4647 2 years ago
CBALLEN obviously failed to read the instructions that came with this book
He also missed the crucial statement "the ancient theosophic and philosophic SPECULATIONS are NOT embodied as part of the doctrines of the Rite."
marsoft4647 2 years ago