THROBBING GRISTLE Discipline Live in Heaven 1980

[Fancie1982]

rrrrrrrrrrrr

[tibyv8]

wtf is this?????

[idiomis]

I never saw them live but I saw a video with them outdoors (art video "festival")with this song and I just realised that I have recreated that beat in my music but in 11-beat with a loop in taperecorder

[likeastoolpigeon]

memory kinda fuzzy now,but support was acr and spk ,kinda just make out my mate rupert dancing,me i was sat under a table left of stage.also remember the glory holes in mens loos.

[superbawestside]

That is correct....A killer triple line up!

[MYDEMISE10]

everyone should buy the TGv 7dvd set. it's all on this. great shows :)

[eyelessjerry]

Silly comment by me. I guess they were not too happy about the "industrial music" that later came and I wasn't either, but it does not matter much now ... . I do not think they thought of themselves as "inventors" of that genre, but it would not have happened like it did without them. also they used ordinary instruments (+self-made synths).

[eyelessjerry]

In case someone did not know -- they did not play "industrial music". And God how boring Psychic TV was ... .

[nightwatch01]

Yes, Psychic TV were boring.

But why did TG played not Industrial? They are the "inventors" of that music genre, among Cabaret Voltaire and SPK.

[eyelessjerry]

My comment was a bit silly ... but I do not think they thought of it as if they were inventing of what came to be called "industrial music" -- specifically, they used ordinary instruments and their intention was obviously not to sound as if they were making noise for the sake of it, but simply their way of expressing themselves. I think they (Industrial records) joked about "industrial music for industrial people" and then other got hooked on this label.

[JANXDPDX]

ordinary instruments? naw

[youmayberight]

Well, I think many groups had their input with what later became Industrial. After all, lets not forget about Neubauten!

[rikstar23]

Boring? Not the gigs i went to...

[GasmaskAvenger]

Even though they did invent industrial, I will have to admit that SPK pulled off the whole "Industrial" sound better than TG (Though both are great, although SPK went down the shitter when they made "Metal Dance")

As for Psychic TV, I only downloaded their earliest releases & all I can say is that they're enjoyable

[03091885]

Sorry but SPK suckssss, listen Slug Bait, the song! In my opinion SPK, CAbaret sucks. KMFDM and EINSTURZENDE NEUBAUTEN are better

[ash23neuro]

Metal Dance was relesed as single with Will To Power B-Side and I enjoyed it very much but after they relesed Machine Age Voodoo they became realy worthless to me.

PTV first two albums are realy greate. There is more good moments in their history but they relesed so much material...

[gombie]

agreed, IMO SpK cleared us how to define industrial... the noisy industrial and the rythmic industrial (even tough Cabaret voltaire was before them)..

[renr17]

Sure, sure. SPK can be classified to be as hardcore. BUT, if you really want some badass musik, then think of Monte Cazazza, Thomas Leer & Robert Rental, and Leather Nun...I love SPK though. Big fan, and owner of all their albums. Slogun!

[Lortagreb]

NON

[rgonko]

I agree. Psychic TV disapointed me a lot, compared 2 TG - Industrial music is what people make out of it. Otherwise it's just a terminus to discribe a certain style of music.

[MOBRIEN1234567]

gota love that beat

[ZIPPYZUBE]

I WANT SOME DISCIPLINE IN HERE!!!

[Leitmotivation]

i dont like it when people are angry about what graeme did! is it forbidden to earn money? he developed himself and his music - why not? and i think a lot of his soundtrack works are very interesting as well. i think its silly when some people talk about him like the judas of industrial music...

[nightwatch01]

Ich habe ja nur äussern wollen, dass die Wahrscheinlichkeit, SPK in Zukunft live zu sehen, eher gering ist. Die Soundtracks kenne ich nicht, enthalte mich einer Meinungsäusserung dazu, aber vom Judas der Industrial Musik habe ich nicht gesprochen und würde es auch nicht tun... Es gibt übrigens eine 6 LP-Box bei Vinyl-On-Demand zu bestellen, mit guten alten Live Sachen von SPK.

[Leitmotivation]

war jetzt nicht ganz speziell auf ein kommentar bezogen... in diversen foren oder auch von ehemaligen SPK mitgliedern klingt diese kritik aber doch immer wieder deutlich an...

es gibt auch so eine 24 hours box mit 25 cds und ein paar extras. die ist aber eklig teuer... schade.

[nightwatch01]

Ja, die ist bei eBay vor kurzem für 565 Dollar weg. Ich habe in meiner box sogar 26 CDs (blöder Angeber, ich...) Nein, ist ein total schönes Teil, ich möchte es nicht missen und bin stolzer BESITZER! Gruß an alle

[crapidious]

Excellent words, Leitmotivation. Another thing I can`t abide is all these people saying "I was there", when the reality was (believe me, I WAS there, seeing them live twice)TG played many gigs to just a handful of people. But to be honest, seeing them live was not a pleasurable experience!

[taoist77]

i think 'A certain ratio' and 'SPK' played the same gig. WOW! TG and SPK on the same bill,I so wish i was there.

[nightwatch01]

Me too! To see SPK perform again seems quite impossible, since Graeme Revell makes a lot of money with his Hollywood soundtracks, living in a big villa in L.A.

TG is possible to see this year! There are performing in France, Spain and maybe in Greece soon.

I saw them in Berlin 2005/2006.

[NewWaver80014]

Wow, if this really was in Heaven, Sleazy must have been like a kid in a candy store. :)

[killbilly1992]

no matter what all these people say industrial music wouldnt exist the way it does now if Genesis P-O was never a member of Throbbing Gristle

[FeralBeast666]

Very true. It's funny how so many pseudo-intellectual tightasses look up bands they hate, just to leave negative comments about them.

[noiser1984]

what a rare looking video... cool

[zardoz2006]

It looks like the heaven gig - I was there! Just before Christmas 1980. TG were amazing live.

[vuetube]

Now exiled perv & wannabe cult leader GPO acting like a retarded monkey. There was always so much better so-called "industrial", during and after this. I never liked his stuff, and it was to Tutti & Carter's benefit to break away from this weirdo. They actually showed they could make music in that genere. CTI

[doezeedoats]

"Better" is not much of a point...you mean likable? I like it. Can you imagine GPO saying "Come on! Let's just go out there and give 'em the best darn music we can within our chosen genre--industrial. Are you ready boys?" "Weirdo" is spot on, though. Thank God we don't have to be like him.

[DPTG23]

you funny person...

[wallytheterrible]

Those were the days. It's just that they seemed an awful lot like today does now. Today is the day.

[lagowski]

Heaven is in London not Manchester.

[bodhiamol]

hey you're right ,it was Rafters Club in Manchester!

But a strong performance anyway...

[bodhiamol]

Hey,i was wrong too- since i have audio cd's from both Manchester and London,it's clear it must be Heaven in London because this version haven't got the unique distorted vocal introduction ,where people from the audience shout that they don't understand ...

[SoopaDude]

Great version, though so far nothing's come close to the complete unabridged version at Kezar. I just hope he can still scream like this in his post-transformation state.

[volkerjensen]

very friendly, very nice. THANK YOU!!!!