Kill all subhuman degenerate Philistine savages! Kill all internationalist whores! Kill all sex-enslavers, homicidal ragheads, pedophile priests, IslamoMarxists, and VaticaNazis! Helter Skelter will be the saving grace of all humanity.
their tryin make up an excuse 2 attack mexico yo mexicans get ready their tryin 2 do u just like they did us get ready 2 bleed and die cuz americans are cowards
I love the US without there weed and cocaine addicts how could my uncles and cousins purchase there golden ak-47's or there big ass planet killing SUV's.
Fuck You beaner Kaveo, go back to Mexico where you belong. She is a very intelligent person, she just don't like law breakers like your beaner ass fucker.
if ur reading this u cant go back there was a dad who got pissed couse he got layed off so he went home took a knife than went to his 13 year old daughter and slit her neck! if u r reading this and dont forward to 10 vids the 13 year old girl be sitting on the endge of the bed waiting for tha when u wake up who ever takes care of u will find u in the tube full of bloode with ur throat slit and than the 13 year old girl will come to who ever takes care of u so hurry dont be the that unlucky one!
ALERT: The US-MEXICO borders are very sensitive area, it should be stood by the US troops like most countries & USA must create a DMZ!!! otherwise the USA will be falling OFF to the Ocean. (be invaded)
MEXICO would become the Most Base of Terrorist-Gangs Smugglers Country in the World including Illegal Aliens-Crossing, Sneaking into the USA. (Millions# illegals inside the USA already) Time is Running Out.
The United States is under THREAT & ATTACKS by the Majority of MEXICAN GANGS including MS 13 in the US especially in the Southern California areas. This is a Serious THREAT to our National Security
Number 1 Stealing, Crime & Terror in the US.
They Sneak, Spy, Robb, Stealing & Thief to all property from the US Citizens & local communities.
They say; this country is not the USA but this is Their Motherland that's why They come Across the US border every weeks, months & years!!!
The whole war is based on a lie. You tube WTC 7 collapse and its an obvious controlled demolition. There were explosives in all the buildings. It was an inside job. 19 Arabs with boxcutters? Please! What a joke. Watch 911 LOOSE CHANGE and judge for yourself. Or at least see WTC 7 collapse. It only takes a minute.
this vile NEOCON warmonger. Because of people like her and BUSH we are bankrupt, 9 trillion in debt, $4 gas and rising, WAR inflation all for her war for ISRAELS security. Great job NEOCONS. Also 911 is a fraud. You tube WTC 7 COLLAPSE and judge for yourself.
we ruined Iraq, regardless of why, so they wanna come to the land of opportunity. lets see a real war in America(god forbid), and see how many people use any means necessary to go somewhere else.
Keep Your Eye on the Ball Illegal Immigration is but a COVER for the Real Villian THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION The Amero Has Arrived Covertly (NAU CURRENCY) (Not in Circulation, but Made and Ready to Circulate) Mexico will dump the Peso for the NORTH AMERICAN AMERO (DOLLAR), and Canada similarly follows (kicking and screaming), the Defacto Amero has arrived. It will be called: the Dollar! No muss, no fuss, no Legislation Or Approval by US Citizens -- Just a Done Deal.
hate to tell you this but canadians are more in the dark about the nau than american citizens; king(dictator) george is like the monarchy america left behind and canada is still a monarchy state! iran will be bombed before the amero is introduced but this will give dub-ya the reason to introduce it!
Mexicans smuggled terrorist over the border w/biological weapons they were going to set off on an Army Base near Phoenix killing millions. We need to shut down the Mexican Border and get all illegals out to secure our Country.
If American Businesses would pay Americans enough to do the work, they wouldn't have to Import these Poor Souls as Slaves. We know who wants More Cheap Labor, Ethnic Voters, Supporters for its Church and Latino Association Members, many of whom can be recruited from the Ranks of Illegal Aliens
You who accuse people of racism for wanting our border secured seem to have no problem with Mexico securing their southern border are such hyprocrites. (Did you even listen to the last point of the interview?) Whether you recognize it or not, there are NONRACIST reasons for securing our border, such as stopping drug smuggling and terrorists from entering. If securing a border is racist, then just about every country in the world is racist.
The "442" became world famous during the war when they rescued a beleaguered American battalion that had been trapped for eight days behind enemy lines in the mountains of France. And they were fighting there in the dark, climbing hills with the Germans firing down on them. It was one of the most heroic battles of the French campaign."
Indeed, members of the "442" performed so many distinguished acts that the "442" became the most decorated unit of its size and length of service in the American Army. The unit garnered over 18,000 individual decorations for bravery, 9,500 Purple Hearts for casualties, and seven Presidential Distinguished Unit citations.
star -Don't bunch Asians with mexicans homes! Thanks to mexicans and illegal immigrations, asians are having problems with their H1b and student visas, i should know i have friends who are having those problems!
stargazer don't look at it in terms of how amazing the aztecs were, look at it in terms of their environment and statistics. The old world was discovering agriculture and animal domestication only 6 thousand years after the first americans arrived via bering land bridge.
bgona America is also the result of colonialist agression, The monroe doctrine is the result of americas commitment to end colonialist agression, and the marshall plan has gone farthest to end europes colonial properties. Even the american revolution was similar to mexicos independence. You are rather ignorant of history, but that's ok since i think you prefer to be.
I know more about history than you, that monroe doctrine you speak of disrespected all of latin america's right to self-government or Autonomy,placing the U.S. as our leader or boss if you will to "protect" us, hah but at what cost, U.S. economical abuse to our countries making us poorer and themselves richter you call that an end to colonialist agression, well I call it the beginning, and the new colonial king of the American continents is the U.S.
How did the us make mexico poorer? It was your on government! Now central america i do agree that the us medaling into politics has caused irrevokable harm. That is why i can't blame hugo chavez and i hope he is successful at boosting the moral and economy of venesuella.
If I gave you a complete essay of how the U.S. made Mexico poorer I'll probably wouldn't be able to finish it in a year. You know I know the whole damn world knows that how the U.S. does its buisness, and negotiations with not just Mexico but the rest of the world does have more a negative impact on our nations than positives. True I don't blame the U.S. for all of Mexico's problems because I know our government is corrupt as hell and we need to fix that major problem.
That is because you aren't competent enough to write such an essay since your history is askewed. Don't blame the us on mexico's problems, mexico is supposed to be a democracy, but instead it has self interests working against labor. Fix your own dam country and quit blaming external countries! That is the reason why mexico will never be successful, because they are lazy and irresolute.
Oh my god your ignorance and stupidity are incredible to say the least. We have problems in our countries but the U.S. is probably on of the least democratic nation on Earth, forcing your policies on foreing countries, believing your the police of the world; the U.S. is the new evil empire that tries to control other nations by policies, laws, and even by force.
I'll tell you one thing, i would much rather live in the US anyday, than in Mexico! We have done a lot more good things for the world than any other country since WW2! What has mexico done for the world? Except degrade our culture with the illegals? NOTHING! Don't blame iraq on the us, blame it on the Israel lobby! Don't blame our future invasion of iran, blame the Israel lobby as well.
Hahaha, You do crack me up, you should be a comedian, True Mexico is a poor country with a rich and powerful culture, but with a very corrupt government, thus the reason why so many Mexicans come to the U.S. only for the money, not for its beauty. Most people if they had money and their goverments weren't as corrupt as they are, I bet you anything that they would rather live in their own home countries before living or staying in the U.S.
The United States as we know it will end within half a decade. The North American Union will terminate the presidential system,..congress is gone....it will emerse with MExico and Canada. So, don't slag Mexico because in 1 decade you'd be slagging yourself....we'll become one big country.
Don't worry about our country's problems, one day (when we obtain power) we'll fix all of our problems, and when I say all of our problems i'm including the U.S. as well, our biggest problem of them all, by force if necessary, after all isn't using force an american tradition, we'll be copying your country's foreign policy, that is using our power to abuse other weaker nations.
Then maybe you can use some of your power to help us build the wall between mexico in the us, that would be useful! Sadly, the most power mexico will ever have is from the drug mexican lords that really rule the mexican currupt government!
You better watch out, you better not cry, because the drug lords are coming to "your" town. True drug lords have been a major problem in Mexico and now more than ever in the u.s. many people are getting killed and tortured, but drug lords believe it or not, have also helped their communities "SOMEWHAT" by providing jobs and even benefits to countless Mexicans who without the drug lords woudn't be able to find a single job or a good paying job to say the least.
mestizo=euro spanish and indian so mexicans are the legacy of colonialism, so you'd be a hypocrite to call americans colonialists when YOU ARE INFACT COLONIALISTS TOO!
Did my aztec ancestors ask the Spanish to come and destroy their culture??!! Mexican culture condemns this conquest and sees it as the beginning of 300 years of suffering for the majority you idiot! don't feel like you have any right to lecture me on MY cultural background!
zerjio - you can't deny your spanish ancestry, even though doing so will enhance your political agenda. They are as much a part of you as the aztecs. The truth of the matter is, the developed world is hell bent on seeing the end of western civilization, you are just perpetuating it, all because of brused ego. Read the book Guns Germs Steel to get an understanding of things.
One more thing, I have to say to you "Vancouverbluz" I don't hate Americans in general, I hate your government, hell i'll even save your life believe it or not, but its your government who I want to destroy, Mexico sooner or later (I'll be long dead it could be in a hundred or a thousand years whatever) will get its revenge against the U.S. for what it has taken from us our lands. Mexico will dominate the U.S. that's my ultimate hope ridiculous as it seems but that's what it is.
bgonza - You just highlighted the problem with your logic and belief. As long as mexicans harbor these divisive sentiments, Mexico will never become great! Because you place your socio-economic situation on a foreign entity. Mexico's tactic to take over the us is to saturate the us with mexico's brand of poverty and slavery mentality? Mexico could never be and will never be great unless it gets beyond this defeatest mentality.
Hey, its a simple payback that's all, if someone does something negatively towards you or your family or your country, wouldn't you do something about it, to get vengeance for it; I still say I don't hate U.S. Americans but your goverment and its history that tremendously affected Mexico by stealing our land, some say the U.S. bought it by the treaty of Guadalupe, and Texas annexation from Mexico, but it was forced on us by your government.
Bgonza - if the us stole mexican land, then mexico stole native land. I see that as even. The natives in the southwest us territories were completely different than the natives in mexico and central america. Nothing has been done to mexico that it hasn't done JUST 300 YEARS BEFORE! Mexico should've never invaded a TExas that was independent, it was mexicos fault.
Oh no buddy, Mexico you see many Mexican Native Americans also lived in many parts of the South Western part of what is now California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, etc, have you ever heard of "AZTLAN" being originally in California the ancient land of the Aztecs. That land is rightfully ours, we haven't robbed anyones as the U.S. robbed us.
Then why aren't there any archeological evidence of mexican natives living in the southwest??? We have much evidence of tohono odhem, apache, zuni, and navajo natives living in the south west, but no evidence of inca,mayan,aztecs living there. Again, mexicans claim of the southwest is pure hypocracy, because they stole the land as well.
During that time the native civilizations didn't create major cities unlike in the current Mexican territories, plus native Americans from Mexico mixed with other native Americans such as the navajo. Obviously since major cities weren't built evidence of our culture has been at most rare, however whatever evidence of the navajo,zuni, or apache culture in the southwest has many similarities with our native americans, Coincidences I think not.
However, the zuni, navajo, and apache cultures are ALL EXISTING. Infact, most of the natives have their own reservations and they are living within the existing framework of their culture. Do you want to take all of that away from them by taking over their land with an azlan invasion? If so then you are a huge hypocrite! The southwest natives went NOWHERE! Infact the yuma cuchan tribe kicked the spanish out of their territory! (mestizo precursors!)
Your ignorance is abundant I'll give you that much, all those native american cultures you've talked about do have Mexican ancestry, as a matter of fact wasn't it the U.S. little role to almost if not entirely wipe out all the native americans or kicked them away from their own native lands. I wouldn't be talking about hypocrisy if I was you, or if I was a U.S. American.
bgonza2 WRONG more like all of those natives that exist within mexico have ancestory of the natives in the lands of the now US. The navajo came from up north, the zuni apache and hohokom came from up north. Migrations went south not north! You can see it in the DNA and in the linguistic patterns. Unlike you, i don't have the luxury of pulling stuff out of my ass.
"Aztec" is just a broad term encompassing a bunch of different tribes, based on their Nahuatl origin. The Apache and other Athapascan tribes didn't migrate (after being pushed sothward by other tribes like the Blackfeet and Comanche) until long after the Nahua (Uto-Aztec) tribes had already settled in what is now the SW (like the Hopi who are still there), while other tribes like the Tlaxcalan continued migrating southward into what was called Anahuac (now part of Central Mexico).
Man-made geopolitical borders aren't a good barometer of where a race or group of people with a common ancestry begin or end. The Yaqui and the Tohono O'odham on both sides of the current US/MX border are good examples of this.
The same BS history states that the inhabitants of Aztlan had space ships, and universities. These people supposedly settled hundreds of worlds throughout the known universe, only to have Europeans come along and defeat them with black powder. It makes no sense of course, but then again lets look at the jealous, angry source.
In order for our nation to progress we must end corruption in our country I don't disagree, but in order to be fully complete we must get our lands back with interest of course.
Yes, my culture is heavily influenced by the spanish, but I condemn past actions taken by the spanish and adopt the ideal that the greatness of the Americas before Spain was superior to the present state of my country. Secondly I know what these three things did... they are the only reason the spanish were "superior" to the indigenous"... and pride is the only thing that remains from this... it's about a struggle and survival... not about a "hurt ego".
zerjio - i too am facinated by the incan greatness Atahuallpa's defeat set the stage for how future colonialists acted in the americas; however, that defeat was inevitable. Civilizations absorb technology either acceptingly or forcefully. It isn't the colonialists fault that they are the result of defeats by indo-aryan civilizations or romans or persians before them. Get off your high horse and see things on a greater scale!
no... actually neither the romans nor any other civilization had any right to anything they did of the sort (conquest)... therefore I admire more progressive civilizations like the Incas you mentioned and cults like the Quakers... or native Americans of north America... or the chinese by mere marriage and population... violent conquest is terrible regardless... it's barbarous.... and shall be condemned...
Violent conquest was a part of civilization since the persians and the phonesians. How about the homosapian supplantation of the neanderthals? Again, no mestizo can claim to be the supplanted, for he is a supplanter. Mestizos are no different than caucasian/african americans because both are the result of former colonialists and both supplanted the incumbant native populations.
I as a Mexican man, do understand and recognize all of Latin Americas faults, corruption and poverty, as well as high crime rates, but with all due respect it doesn't compare to the problems that the U.S. creates and has in its own territory. Many of the problems around the world, are cause one way or another indirectly by the United States. You call as colonialists ok ill give you that but rememer were not the cause were the effect.
bgonza - is it the cynical one to blame all of the worlds ills on the US. That country which has given the world more in food and monetary aid is one which takes the most blame, that is a huge load of crap, granted I blame the us for el salvador and its policy against cuba, but for other places in the world blame is placed elsewhere. How long has the us existed? More than 200 years! The monroe doctrine ended up benefiting latin america.
Of course the U.S. is to blame, i'm sorry most of the world think so, Millions of people can't all be wrong, I do recognize that the U.S. is not in fault for all of the world's problems but, that doesn't change the fact that many of their foreign policy does negativaly effect the rest of the world.
The world is full of pacifists, people who just want to sit by and watch the world pass them. I don't support everything the us has done. I know in some instances we've caused more harm than help, on the other hand, there are import exceptions. If the American gov didn't defy public opinion in ww2 then probably mexicans will be speaking German. Foreign policy worked for the world in that case. It didn't work for others. Overall I think the us has done more good than harm.
In your response of the U.S. foreign policy doing more good than harm, I have little to say to you, but keep thinking that, because you refuse to know the truth unlike the rest of the world.
Truth is relative to an individuals opinion on things. I guess there is no such thing as absolute truth, because truth related to peoples own definitions and perspectives.
you bet we tell the truth, hell our truth is more believable than the truth that the U.S. gives its citizens. I'll have more confidence of the truth given by almost all the nations of the world before I believe the U.S. so called "truth"
bgonza that is why the mexican government puts down labor and keeps labor in subsistant conditions, whilest blaming the US government. Encouraging them to cross the boarder. Your truth is tanted with nationalist sentiment encouraged by your one party centralist government.
We as Mexicans have to overthrow our own government i'll give you that much, because it is so corrupted, but I hope when Mexico FINALLY!!!! establishes a good just government our people can prevail, end poverty, and hopfully become a first world nation, and regain all the territory taken from us plus more from the United States. I don't hate Americans, I just want justice for my people that is all, I sometimes talk trash but only if people talk trash first.
You want the entire North American continent for Mexico? How about Alaska and Hawaii too? Where is everyone else supposed to live? Mexicans alone claiming a racially pure Mexico spanning every square inch of all 7 continents is just typical "anti racist" BS. Get a grip on your absurd birth rate, you will have more money and enough land space.
No I don't want the entire North American continent for Mexico, I just want what was ours before being take away from the U.S. and plus some interest wouldn't hurt, I would take Alaska as well seeing how the state is bigger than the whole country of Mexico, our nation will then be immense and one of the biggest territories in the world, but of course that is just my fantasy. listen jackbelias I don't hate you or your people but the U.S. has caused us so many injustices that need to be resolved.
bgonza - you know a lot of apache indians in new mexico and arizona hate the mexicans! You know that talk isn't going to fly with them, and they will be sure to join the us army when you send your "troops" to america. ;)
Maybe the Apache indians would join the U.S. army, or maybe seeing how the U.S. has had a long evil legacy of eliminating millions of Native Americans and stealing their lands in the process maybe they'll join us instead, or maybe they thinking both sides are bad will act neutrally. who knows.
bgonza after seeing how you treat the natives in the mexico territory i'm sure they will stay with us seeing as how mexico has been a loser country for 150 years. Atleast they have prosperity on their lands having casinos and mining rights. Do the natives in mexico have that? NO instead they are murdered by the fedralies! BTW apaches kicked the mexicans out after independence. ;)
Apaches were raiders. They were nomadic. They would take captive Mexicans as wives and Mexicans did the same to them. The Spanish government wanted to do away with the constant raiding so they put a price tag on their scalps, literally -- this is the root of the resentment.
The Spanish should never be in charge of ANY indigenous land period and neither should any other Europeans. And the "Anglos" were no better than the Spanish; they also committed genocide against the indigenous and those that weren't exterminated were forced onto reservations. (Trail of Tears, Geronimo, etc)
"and they will be sure to join the us army when you send your "troops" to america."
Mexican-Americans are the highest-decorated ethnic group in the U.S. military -- replete with Medals of Honor, Silver Stars, Bronze Stars and other commendations.
Hey bgonza2 look up Sgt. Rafael Peralta -- he should be another MoH recipient.
"Hispanics" are the most decorated ethnic group in World War II, Korea and Vietnam, with Mexican descent soldiers comprising the bulk of those commendations. Mexican-Americans have been cited for meritorious combat duty in disproportiantely large numbers -- earning more Congressional Medals of Honor, the highest citation conferred in this country for going above and beyond the call of duty, and other citations, than any other ethnic group in the United States. cont...
Since WWII when Mexican-Americans were classified as "white" and allowed to serve in integrated military units, 34 of the 39 MoHs awarded to "Hispanics" were given to Mexican-Americans. cont...
In WWII Mexican-Americans earned 13 Congressional Medals of Honor, and the second-most decorated American in the entire World War was a Mexican-American from San Antonio, TX named Cleto Rodriguez (fellow Texan Audie Murphy was the first highest). Other citations awarded by other countries included 31 Belgium Croix de Gerre and 3 French Croix de Guerre (awarded by their respective countries recognizing acts of heroism on their soil).
During the Korean War 9 Hispanics were awarded the Medal of Honor and more than 100 others received Distinguished Service Crosses and Silver Stars. In Vietnam one in two Hispanics served in a combat unit; 1 in 3 were wounded in action, 1 in 5 were killed in action. Mexican-American Albert F. Rodriguez was the most decorated soldier of the Vietnam War.
During the Vietnam War seventeen Congressional Medals of Honor were awarded to Hispanics, mostly Mexican-Americans (most of them posthumously). Although Hispanics only made up about 4.5% of the total U.S. population at that time, we incurred more than 19% of the casualties, compared to a 12 percent rate for U.S. soldiers as a whole. -- fin
We caused you to need an absurd amount of landspace for a population that triples every 20 years? This absurd birthrate creates poverty, European Americans are careful to keep a low birth rate for a higher standard of living. Lets say you exterminate the Alaskin natives and Europeans living there, how will you settle much of it? There are no stolen lands, Mexico enlisted Europeans to homestead territory, Texas comes to mind.
When the northern part of Mexico was ceded to the U.S. (Manifest Destiny) it lost about 80% of its arable land, not to mention all the natural resources in these lands, including oil which the U.S. profited immensely from. European-Americans flooded Mexican territory and became the majority -- now that the demographics are changing against their favor they don't like the idea of becoming a minority group. cont...
European-Americans are not "careful to keep a low birth rate". A significant portion of your population is old and aging (Baby Boomers). And don't confuse your infertile and effete shortcomings with some sort of controlled birth rate plan. There is no such thing on your part. The fact of the matter is the world at large is outstripping your population growth rates with Mexicans and Asians being among the two fastest-growing groups in this country. cont...
Yes we do as we think standard of living to be important. The more kids you have the less wealthy you live. Many refuse to have any kids as no children means a comfortable living. We are not infertile, we simply value wealth get it? 8 planets wouldnt be enough to house the mexican population after a few generations so I wonder why they refuse to think of reducing the rate.
So when did the people in the Appalachians with trailer park loads of children or those large Irish families get the memo of this controlled birth rate plan? And you ever wonder why all those Enzyte and other fertility drugs are targeted at white-bread "Bob" with his goofey smile on those commercials?
Very few have large families. Poverty in that region is brought about by a lack of workplaces. Having large numbers of children would starve them to death in no time flat. Big Irish families have become a thing of the past for the most part. Fair to say people who live in trailer parks never need enzyte according to you? Most commercials target whites. Cleaners, department stores, autos, etc...
There's always an exception to the rule -- in this case the Irish don't need boner pills unlike some of the other European immigrants. Back to the point of contention -- the European-descent population is declining world-wide, including in America. Colored people have younger (fertile) faster-growing populations. There isn't the unchecked white growth rate of the post-WWII boom anymore. Many parts of the SW US are already majority-minority states.
Stargazer you are borderlining ignorance. Now you are talking about how white populations everywhere have declining populations. It isn't just whites. it is Asians as well like in Korea,China and Japan. It has nothing to do with race as much as it has to do with culture. Highly organized and civil societies are facing this, not because of race!
"by 2050 the world is expected to have 8.9 billion people, an increase of nearly half over the 2000 population. By 2050, the share of Asia will be at nearly 60 per cent, that of Africa will have more than doubled, to 20 per cent, and that of Latin America nearly doubled, to 9 per cent. Meanwhile the share of Europe will decline to 7 per cent, less than one third its peak level achieved at the beginning of the twentieth century. cont...
"While in 1900 the population of Europe was three times that of Africa, in 2050 the population of Africa will be nearly three times that of Europe." --end
For the countries you brought up as examples of having declining populations: N. Korea's latest famine not too long ago cost them as much as 10% of its overall population by some estimates. S. Korea isn't a so-called third world country like N. Korea but it's still densely populated along with China which had to enforce their "one-child policy" to curb population growth. cont...
And I don't know how you could cite China as an example of a country having a population decline like some European countries -- now _that_ is ignorant; it's the most populous country in the world.
compare chinas age demographic to Mexicos. That will answer your question! Same with Japan and South Korea. Other than that, countries like india have a high majority of youth which means that they are still undergoing population growth but mexico is still even higher.
Finally jackbelias -- colonialism, exploitaiton and racism create poverty, and for Mexicans this was at the hands of the Spanish then the Anglos (and other European immigrants who profited from white skin privilege). I agree with zerjio89, adopting a nativist papadigm/model is superior to any Euro-centric one. cont...
Immigrants like yourself have a tendency to look at the symptoms and not the root cause of the problem because you don't want to face the facts and accept the truth of your people's colonialism.
stargazer - immigrants like me? You are making a generalization of me of me and 'my kind' when you don't even know me, what makes you think that i am a result of colonialist, i'll tell you that you and 'your kind' are the legacy of colonialists! Don't forget the spanish blood in your mestizo blood!
Based on your pro- European-American immigrant rhetoric I assume that's what you are. You made an assumption as well. And not all Mexicans are mixed-blood indigenous people like myself. About 30% of the Mexican population are full-blood indigenous. cont...
And that 30% figure is actually higher considering in MX there doesn't have to be any actual genetic admixture with a Spanish bloodline to be considered Hispano / mestizo; all it takes is being able to speak Spanish or dressing in "modern" clothes. Consequently, any indigenous person who speaks Spanish or wears a vaquero hat is considered Hispanic/mestizo.
Yeah everyone can go back to a superior society where there is no electricity, running water, motorized transportation, wheeled carts, etc... We would all feel oh so superior while living in mud huts telling our grandchildren rumers of magical devices that could cool the air in a household.
Overpopulation and corruption causes poverty, stop blaming your shortcomming on us.
We had advanced civilizations in America prior to any European immigrants invading our land -- agriculture, calendrics, mathematics, astronomy, medicine was all part and parcel of that. And unlike European civilizations we didn't arrogate other civilizations' advancements as our own. And again, you are the problem not the solution. If left without your germs/diseases and guns (by way of Chinese gun poweder btw) the advanced indigenous American civilizations would have continued to evolve.
stargazer who is this 'WE'? Are you 100% native or are you mestizo? LOL! Not to deny you are imagined or real native heritage, but it is overly convenient for mexicans to deny their native heritage and embrace it out of convenience. Anyway, the aztecs had the most advanced civilization in the new world which completely broke down before the spanish invasions. Their chiefdom isn't unprecidented however, the pacific islanders had similar.
A rose by any other name is still a rose. Barring criollos (Spaniards born in MX) Mexicans are indigenous people in genotype and phenotype. Mexican (English) > Mejicano (Spanish) > Mexica (Nahuatl plural) Mexicatl (Nahuatl singular). The Mexica (Me-SHE-ka) were the largest Nahua / Aztec tribe at the time of the conquest by the Spaniards -- hence the term. cont...
Our staple food is indigenous (tacos, tamales, frijoles, maiz, etc), our religion is a fusion of Catholicism and native religion (eg. Dia De Los Muertos). You get the point.
And no, it's not a convenient attempt to embrace our indigenous heritage or disavow from it. The Mexicans in this country, unlike in some parts of MX, are very proud of our indigenous heritage. All the references to brown pride from the Chicano Movement to the cholos on the streets are in acknowledgement of our native heritage. There's a lot you don't understand.
Yeah sure, advanced societies nobody has ever seen evidence of. We didnt steal electricity, math, rockets, autos, etc... My people have achieved nearly every hurdle we have put our minds to. You also state that guns caused roving bands of barbarians to fail to advance. Technology was going to make the bow and arrow obsolete someday, besides you claim there was a super high tech society, how did they manage to be defeated by black powder?
"Overpopulation and corruption causes poverty, stop blaming your shortcomming on us."
You can't sweep hundreds of years of genocide, colonization and enslavement under the rug. You hold a stacked deck and then wonder why we can't win. The game is fixed. Only relatively recently in American history have non-whites had de jure equality.
Oh wow its the red college student rant weve all heard for decades. Everyone else is saying it so you feel the need to repeat it. Most whites are working class, many are born below the poverty line, and nobody hands us anything for free. We have a sense of structure and good order, this alone is what we really have on the rest of the world. Few can compare to our culture, Japan for example earns respect with no stacked deck, just alot of structure.
stargazer your ancestors are complicit in the "genocide, enslavement and colonialization. Stop ignoring over your own legacy! America spearheaded equality while in most places in the latin world still doesn't have racial equality! Who are you to teach anyone as a latin in latin america????
Read my other posts. I denounce the Spaniards and the Anglos. I'm not sure who were more racist. They both committed genocide. They both enslaved native people and Africans. They both set up a pigmentocracy which still prevails in many ways here in America. cont...
Actually, equality in America was spearheaded when the the Spanish crown was overthrown in the early 1800s and slavery was abolished in Mexico. Slavery wasn't abolished in the U.S. until 1865 and after a costly civil war. And the racism that prevails in so-called "Latin America" is primarily at the hands of the ruling class whites (criollos).
European Americans were enlisted to settle. They were required to serve Mexico. They did eventually become a majority in the region. Mexico never really held those lands and the need to enlist Europeans proves it. Something tells me Mexico claims any land anywhere in the world with valuable resources.
It was actually the Tejanos (Mexican Texans) in, at that time, the volatile Coahuila y Tejas, who were inspired by the indigenous and mixed-blood indigenous Mexican victory over the Spanish/peninsulares/criollos in the Mexican War of Independence, that initiated the war against (Spanish/criollo) Santa Anna's dictatorship. cont...
The first attempts by the Tejanos to overthrow Santa Anna's regime weren't successful however (it led to some of them being hanged publicly) and when they allied with the "Anglos" the agreement was that they would govern the new republic jointly but the European immigrants backstabbed the Tejanos and relegated them to second-class citizenship.
The vested interest on the part of the European immigrants in seceding from MX was that they wanted to be a slave-holding territory, which was outlawed in MX afer their independence from Spain. And at that time there was also a lot of political wrangling in Coahuila y Tejas that only precipitated the war against Santa Anna's regime.
About José Antonio Navarro, one of the signers of the Texas Declaration of Independence: "In the Republic of Texas era, Navarro served as Bexar's representative in the Texas Congress. From the beginning, he saw that Tejanos were being shut out of the legal process by Anglos, and he tried to protect their land claims and other rights. Throughout his life, Navarro would assume the responsibility for giving voice to the concerns of Tejanos."
star manifest destiny wasn't about ceding mexico to the us You are confusing it with gadsden and guadalupe purchase. You seem to forget that the mexican families greatfully accepted american sovergnty and became very successful. Lots of mexican families own vineyards and ranches and became some of the oldest most prosperous families in those territories. None of the mexicans lost their established homesteads. Go back to your encyclopedia, you are getting it all wrong.
José Antonio Navarro [ibid]: "To his dismay, he lived to see his people lose most of their land holdings and political influence and become a working underclass to the Anglo Americans. Navarro wrote articles and a book in which he set the record straight about the contributions of the Tejanos to Texas independence, pointing out that the citizens of Bexar and elsewhere were fighting for Texas freedom 25 years before the Alamo."
About my post -- citing Manifest Destiny in parentheses after mentioning northern MX being ceded to the U.S. -- I'm aware The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (which was a coercion) was the result of the end of the Mexican-American War. What I was trying to convey was that it was the doctrine of Manifest Destiny that motivated the Anglos to expand westward whether by hook or crook. [Mexican land being ceded by way of Manifest Destiny]
Jackbelias - i think it is hilarious that meztisos like bgonza try to claim heritage to a land when they themselves are the legacy of colonialist spain. HAHAHHAHA
They actually teach their children that there was a Mexican super race who inhabited "Aztlan". Aztlan is all 7 continents, and much of the known universe. All inferior races are to be exterminated so the empire can return. What really drives this mythology is their high birth rate and the increased need for land space. The same birth rate that makes them poor.
bgonza - you will never get anything for your country as long as you harbor this "defeatest" attitude. You will never get any of the territory back, because it isn't yours to begin with. You want to drag the rest of the world into your deprived 3rd world hellhole and that isn't going to fly. We payed for the lands fair and square, your santa anna sold you out, you have only yourselves to blame. Other than that, i agree with you, i hope you do succeed in changing things in mexico.
I'am a nationalist, and proud of it, you seem to imply that being nationalist is bad, but I disagree. Mexico is filled with corruption from our government I accept, and I want a political revolution to eliminate all the corruption in my nation. But if and when we succeed in ending corruption in Mexico, I still want all of our lands take away from the U.S. and then some, I don't hate the U.S.A. I just want justice that's all.
bgonza - yea, you just harbor resentment against the us, and because of that, you will always be down in the dirt in your 3rd world realm. Things will not improve until you take that defeatest angst and get with the modern age. Other than that, i would love to see mexico achieve 1st world status and to modernize its government and social system including having 2 party democratic rule etc...
First of all I don't have a defeatest attitude, from of it I have a revolutionarist attitude that wants my country to prevail and become a globalist nation, but in order to do that we must conquer back the lands taken away from the U.S.
see, you see the destiny of your land by taking someone elses land, well bull s*it you might as well as build a rocketship to the moon because that is going to be no harder than to take back the lands of the southwest us, all the most heavily armed americans are there and we have nukes at airforce bases in southern cities.
America has the most powerful military in the world, no doubt about that, but remember vancouverbluz, not all empires last forever. Sooner or later another country might become the next superpower who knows. But I truly believe we will get our lands bact sooner or later its our destiny, although it is hard to believe I know.
bgonza yes, not all empires last, but it isn't going to be mehico that ends our empire, i garantee it will be china. China or possibly india are well on their way to improving the welfare of their population through domestic economic agenda. MExico is heading in the reverse direction of that. Mexico is like russia, they are living off of their material comodities, instead of investing in their social welfare and labor pool. Mexico would rather push them upon the US to pay for their welfare.
Again they were never your lands, the Mexicans used Europeans to settle territory. Your birth rate demands at least 4 continents now, all 7 in less than 20 years. This is not a destiny, but rather an out of control rate of reproduction you alone are at fault for. With all 7 continents to yourselves with all other peoples exterminated you would still need more land in under two generations.
They indeed were our lands before it was the native Americans who owned it then the Europeans but then we owned them, and we just want them back by any means necessary, and I don't want to insult nobody but that's the only way things go sometimes.
I just want justice for Mexico that's all The U.S. took our lands and we want them back with interest. I don't wish the U.S. any harm but Mexico needs to regain its territories. You can't change my mind as I know I can't change yours. We come from two different worlds with different views.
bgonza well i think that about ends our conversation, you're just talking about of hateful spite, which is looking mighty pathetic in my eyes, so basically, i'm bored! If you could back your blabbering up with historical evidence of land theft then i'll engage, if not then good bye.
Ok so Mexico gets the entire continent plus Alaska and Hawaii, nevermind the fact that much of it was never Mexico. The Mexicans didnt even have the population needed to settle Texas but now claim an entire continent? Does Mexico intend to pay us back 7 times the land value for every square inch that wasnt Mexico in the first place? We would of course have to remove all improvements from said land, power plants, water purification, roads, etc...
bgonza2 what you just said shows me your defeatest attitude. I completely admire someone like hugo chavez for throwing away the defeatest mentality and the foreign national corporations and nationalizing the countries resources for the purpose of bringing up labor and the wealth of the people within that country. Putin did the same thing in russia and now the country is thriving.
YES! Malkin is Filipino.let her explain the horror stories of all the hundreds of american children father by american soldier, abandon by them, and left on the street of in the philippines after the world's largest base closed down. afterall
the U.S. state dept don't regard these blond hair blue eye 8 yrs old who are dieing on the street of drugs and violance as american citizens but garbage.
The problem is your country is really our country, and sooner or later it will be ours again, You may call me an asswipe, but at least i'm not a cracker, and worst yet i'm not a White American now thats an insult.
Bjonza2 - MEXICO has never won an offensive war with another country. BRING IT ON B*(CH! We will pound your country back into the stoneage! Your words are like air, they are without merit, they are without substance. You are a pathetic human being.
I'm Mexican and i'm very proud of my heritage, sorry that I can't say the same to you, and I wouldn't be surprised if you "intelligence" that you claim to have, makes you into one of those very arrogant Americans who thinks he/she is better than every one else. Think before you write.
lol, Michelle Malkin talking about the U.S. as if she was a pure American woman. Ha she's not American although she wants to be, probablay wishes she was white too. Trying to be white. sell out to her Asian heritage. She should be ashamed. I bet she's scared of Mexicans and Blacks. Damn wannabe American.
How anyone can be so much for the idiotic democratic party after what they pulled last week when they underhandedly and clearly broke the rules for the first time in congressional history to get a bill passed that benefits illegal aliens is insane! To think they would stoop that low to get a bill passed that benefits illegals when most American are pissed off at illegals shows how arrogant and out of touch this bastards are!
how dare you have the name kukulcan and say that... seriously... you are just so ignorant... and these people are not arrogant... they seek an opportunity and I don't see what's wrong w/it beind illegal... I mean... it was ILLEGAL for a woman to vote before 1920... LAW EVOLVES IDIOT!
zerjio - law evolves for american nationals, not foreign invaders! Illegals will always be slave labor. Now they want to influence american policy and laws, well why don't they influence their own government to make changes to their labor and wages? BLAME EVERYTHING ON AMERICA If they want to be that way, we don't want their kind here.
Oh I'm sorry... I shouldn't blame the US for it's imperialistic policies in Latin American countries that led to horrible dictatorships and bad economic crises! And I shouldn't blame bigots like you for America's close-mindedness!
I recongnize americas policies that wrong latin american nations; however, he had policies that righted latin nations as well like we bailed latin america out of a financial strain forgiving loans made by the world bank. Take the gdam good with the bad assh*((!
you can't correct 100 years of oppression with a gift basket... so please... don't try to absolve your country's policies so easily... washing your hands won't do it this time, pilate...
zerjio - hey i support hugo chavez too, he kicked foreign economic interests out of his country and now his country is richer because of it. More money will go to the locals for education and economic development. To me venesuella is a perfect example of nationalized resources for economic development. MEXICO should take the example of venesuella!
you mathafucking asian immigrant you too are a immigrant you shit... your an asain immigrant!!!! go get your eyes pulled back even more..
mr3rillionaire 11 months ago
I wish mexico will just get blown up and disappear, the U.S is tired of trying to please and get rid of unwanted illegal immigrants and wetbacks
yatesdavid1 1 year ago
Kill all subhuman degenerate Philistine savages! Kill all internationalist whores! Kill all sex-enslavers, homicidal ragheads, pedophile priests, IslamoMarxists, and VaticaNazis! Helter Skelter will be the saving grace of all humanity.
Hail Exterminance.
IggyHazard 1 year ago
More stupidity from FOX NEWS idiots.
CHAOSoriginal 1 year ago
their tryin make up an excuse 2 attack mexico yo mexicans get ready their tryin 2 do u just like they did us get ready 2 bleed and die cuz americans are cowards
salehs313 1 year ago
Illegals, drug cartels, Islamic terrorists coming across
the southern border. Border should of been sealed
years ago. We are so screwed.
ATRAINC 1 year ago
this cunt knows nothing. Mexican's are not religious radicals.
wencesbahena 1 year ago
white washed BITCH!!!
21boxhead 1 year ago
I love the US without there weed and cocaine addicts how could my uncles and cousins purchase there golden ak-47's or there big ass planet killing SUV's.
lilbeezy4utoo 2 years ago
Fuck You beaner Kaveo, go back to Mexico where you belong. She is a very intelligent person, she just don't like law breakers like your beaner ass fucker.
BikersFromIreland 2 years ago 2
This bitch is trying to get American people to be scared of Mexico and Mexican immigrants and wants to close the border.She is a Rasict whore...
Kaveo415in 2 years ago
DEPORT Pres.OBONGO
4sureJT 2 years ago
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if ur reading this u cant go back there was a dad who got pissed couse he got layed off so he went home took a knife than went to his 13 year old daughter and slit her neck! if u r reading this and dont forward to 10 vids the 13 year old girl be sitting on the endge of the bed waiting for tha when u wake up who ever takes care of u will find u in the tube full of bloode with ur throat slit and than the 13 year old girl will come to who ever takes care of u so hurry dont be the that unlucky one!
CrazyCrazyJerry 2 years ago
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ALERT: The US-MEXICO borders are very sensitive area, it should be stood by the US troops like most countries & USA must create a DMZ!!! otherwise the USA will be falling OFF to the Ocean. (be invaded)
MEXICO would become the Most Base of Terrorist-Gangs Smugglers Country in the World including Illegal Aliens-Crossing, Sneaking into the USA. (Millions# illegals inside the USA already) Time is Running Out.
MEXICO is Number 1 Crime & Terror in the USA.
jtx1bx 3 years ago
The United States is under THREAT & ATTACKS by the Majority of MEXICAN GANGS including MS 13 in the US especially in the Southern California areas. This is a Serious THREAT to our National Security
Number 1 Stealing, Crime & Terror in the US.
They Sneak, Spy, Robb, Stealing & Thief to all property from the US Citizens & local communities.
They say; this country is not the USA but this is Their Motherland that's why They come Across the US border every weeks, months & years!!!
jtx1bx 3 years ago 3
now, talk about stupidity on tv.....
thomasqf 3 years ago
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The whole war is based on a lie. You tube WTC 7 collapse and its an obvious controlled demolition. There were explosives in all the buildings. It was an inside job. 19 Arabs with boxcutters? Please! What a joke. Watch 911 LOOSE CHANGE and judge for yourself. Or at least see WTC 7 collapse. It only takes a minute.
KENA429 3 years ago
Michelle Malkin, take a look at this video:
Army Iraq War Verteran/Soldier beaten at McCarran Airport
ps. ¿Maybe the ones who beat this war hero are also illegal beaners?
IMAO. For people like you, Americans are regarded as dumb.
manixxxo 3 years ago
this vile NEOCON warmonger. Because of people like her and BUSH we are bankrupt, 9 trillion in debt, $4 gas and rising, WAR inflation all for her war for ISRAELS security. Great job NEOCONS. Also 911 is a fraud. You tube WTC 7 COLLAPSE and judge for yourself.
RON9463 3 years ago
we ruined Iraq, regardless of why, so they wanna come to the land of opportunity. lets see a real war in America(god forbid), and see how many people use any means necessary to go somewhere else.
philosophiaafricanus 3 years ago
An illegal in Minnesota ran into a school bus killing the driver and 4 Elementary students injuring 14 others.
She had already been to court for driving w/o a license
ruppertknickerbocker 3 years ago
obviously you're reading them
19505555 4 years ago
Jetstream74 4 years ago 4
hate to tell you this but canadians are more in the dark about the nau than american citizens; king(dictator) george is like the monarchy america left behind and canada is still a monarchy state! iran will be bombed before the amero is introduced but this will give dub-ya the reason to introduce it!
AMNESTY IS TREASON!
DeathloomZ 3 years ago 2
Mexicans smuggled terrorist over the border w/biological weapons they were going to set off on an Army Base near Phoenix killing millions. We need to shut down the Mexican Border and get all illegals out to secure our Country.
ruppertknickerbocker 4 years ago
got proof? runing your mouth without proof makes you look like a dumbass. millions? in one army base? LOLOL whats your name? bob the retard?
al3xt3hl0nly 3 years ago
Illegal Aliens - American Business
If American Businesses would pay Americans enough to do the work, they wouldn't have to Import these Poor Souls as Slaves. We know who wants More Cheap Labor, Ethnic Voters, Supporters for its Church and Latino Association Members, many of whom can be recruited from the Ranks of Illegal Aliens
Jetstream74 4 years ago
this is bullshit!!!
now all the fucking racists are going to say this just so they can build that stupid wall!
fuck racism
Dogwood14 4 years ago
You who accuse people of racism for wanting our border secured seem to have no problem with Mexico securing their southern border are such hyprocrites. (Did you even listen to the last point of the interview?) Whether you recognize it or not, there are NONRACIST reasons for securing our border, such as stopping drug smuggling and terrorists from entering. If securing a border is racist, then just about every country in the world is racist.
Warjacki 4 years ago
The "442" became world famous during the war when they rescued a beleaguered American battalion that had been trapped for eight days behind enemy lines in the mountains of France. And they were fighting there in the dark, climbing hills with the Germans firing down on them. It was one of the most heroic battles of the French campaign."
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Indeed, members of the "442" performed so many distinguished acts that the "442" became the most decorated unit of its size and length of service in the American Army. The unit garnered over 18,000 individual decorations for bravery, 9,500 Purple Hearts for casualties, and seven Presidential Distinguished Unit citations.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
star -Don't bunch Asians with mexicans homes! Thanks to mexicans and illegal immigrations, asians are having problems with their H1b and student visas, i should know i have friends who are having those problems!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
stargazer don't look at it in terms of how amazing the aztecs were, look at it in terms of their environment and statistics. The old world was discovering agriculture and animal domestication only 6 thousand years after the first americans arrived via bering land bridge.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
bgona America is also the result of colonialist agression, The monroe doctrine is the result of americas commitment to end colonialist agression, and the marshall plan has gone farthest to end europes colonial properties. Even the american revolution was similar to mexicos independence. You are rather ignorant of history, but that's ok since i think you prefer to be.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
I know more about history than you, that monroe doctrine you speak of disrespected all of latin america's right to self-government or Autonomy,placing the U.S. as our leader or boss if you will to "protect" us, hah but at what cost, U.S. economical abuse to our countries making us poorer and themselves richter you call that an end to colonialist agression, well I call it the beginning, and the new colonial king of the American continents is the U.S.
bgonza2 4 years ago
How did the us make mexico poorer? It was your on government! Now central america i do agree that the us medaling into politics has caused irrevokable harm. That is why i can't blame hugo chavez and i hope he is successful at boosting the moral and economy of venesuella.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
If I gave you a complete essay of how the U.S. made Mexico poorer I'll probably wouldn't be able to finish it in a year. You know I know the whole damn world knows that how the U.S. does its buisness, and negotiations with not just Mexico but the rest of the world does have more a negative impact on our nations than positives. True I don't blame the U.S. for all of Mexico's problems because I know our government is corrupt as hell and we need to fix that major problem.
bgonza2 4 years ago
That is because you aren't competent enough to write such an essay since your history is askewed. Don't blame the us on mexico's problems, mexico is supposed to be a democracy, but instead it has self interests working against labor. Fix your own dam country and quit blaming external countries! That is the reason why mexico will never be successful, because they are lazy and irresolute.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Oh my god your ignorance and stupidity are incredible to say the least. We have problems in our countries but the U.S. is probably on of the least democratic nation on Earth, forcing your policies on foreing countries, believing your the police of the world; the U.S. is the new evil empire that tries to control other nations by policies, laws, and even by force.
bgonza2 4 years ago
I'll tell you one thing, i would much rather live in the US anyday, than in Mexico! We have done a lot more good things for the world than any other country since WW2! What has mexico done for the world? Except degrade our culture with the illegals? NOTHING! Don't blame iraq on the us, blame it on the Israel lobby! Don't blame our future invasion of iran, blame the Israel lobby as well.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Hahaha, You do crack me up, you should be a comedian, True Mexico is a poor country with a rich and powerful culture, but with a very corrupt government, thus the reason why so many Mexicans come to the U.S. only for the money, not for its beauty. Most people if they had money and their goverments weren't as corrupt as they are, I bet you anything that they would rather live in their own home countries before living or staying in the U.S.
bgonza2 4 years ago
The United States as we know it will end within half a decade. The North American Union will terminate the presidential system,..congress is gone....it will emerse with MExico and Canada. So, don't slag Mexico because in 1 decade you'd be slagging yourself....we'll become one big country.
cabrone2 4 years ago
Don't worry about our country's problems, one day (when we obtain power) we'll fix all of our problems, and when I say all of our problems i'm including the U.S. as well, our biggest problem of them all, by force if necessary, after all isn't using force an american tradition, we'll be copying your country's foreign policy, that is using our power to abuse other weaker nations.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Then maybe you can use some of your power to help us build the wall between mexico in the us, that would be useful! Sadly, the most power mexico will ever have is from the drug mexican lords that really rule the mexican currupt government!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
You better watch out, you better not cry, because the drug lords are coming to "your" town. True drug lords have been a major problem in Mexico and now more than ever in the u.s. many people are getting killed and tortured, but drug lords believe it or not, have also helped their communities "SOMEWHAT" by providing jobs and even benefits to countless Mexicans who without the drug lords woudn't be able to find a single job or a good paying job to say the least.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza exactly what i said, mexicans can't depend on their crooked government, they ahve to depend on drug lords.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
mestizo=euro spanish and indian so mexicans are the legacy of colonialism, so you'd be a hypocrite to call americans colonialists when YOU ARE INFACT COLONIALISTS TOO!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Did my aztec ancestors ask the Spanish to come and destroy their culture??!! Mexican culture condemns this conquest and sees it as the beginning of 300 years of suffering for the majority you idiot! don't feel like you have any right to lecture me on MY cultural background!
zerjio89 4 years ago
zerjio - you can't deny your spanish ancestry, even though doing so will enhance your political agenda. They are as much a part of you as the aztecs. The truth of the matter is, the developed world is hell bent on seeing the end of western civilization, you are just perpetuating it, all because of brused ego. Read the book Guns Germs Steel to get an understanding of things.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
One more thing, I have to say to you "Vancouverbluz" I don't hate Americans in general, I hate your government, hell i'll even save your life believe it or not, but its your government who I want to destroy, Mexico sooner or later (I'll be long dead it could be in a hundred or a thousand years whatever) will get its revenge against the U.S. for what it has taken from us our lands. Mexico will dominate the U.S. that's my ultimate hope ridiculous as it seems but that's what it is.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza - You just highlighted the problem with your logic and belief. As long as mexicans harbor these divisive sentiments, Mexico will never become great! Because you place your socio-economic situation on a foreign entity. Mexico's tactic to take over the us is to saturate the us with mexico's brand of poverty and slavery mentality? Mexico could never be and will never be great unless it gets beyond this defeatest mentality.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Hey, its a simple payback that's all, if someone does something negatively towards you or your family or your country, wouldn't you do something about it, to get vengeance for it; I still say I don't hate U.S. Americans but your goverment and its history that tremendously affected Mexico by stealing our land, some say the U.S. bought it by the treaty of Guadalupe, and Texas annexation from Mexico, but it was forced on us by your government.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Bgonza - if the us stole mexican land, then mexico stole native land. I see that as even. The natives in the southwest us territories were completely different than the natives in mexico and central america. Nothing has been done to mexico that it hasn't done JUST 300 YEARS BEFORE! Mexico should've never invaded a TExas that was independent, it was mexicos fault.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Oh no buddy, Mexico you see many Mexican Native Americans also lived in many parts of the South Western part of what is now California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, etc, have you ever heard of "AZTLAN" being originally in California the ancient land of the Aztecs. That land is rightfully ours, we haven't robbed anyones as the U.S. robbed us.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Then why aren't there any archeological evidence of mexican natives living in the southwest??? We have much evidence of tohono odhem, apache, zuni, and navajo natives living in the south west, but no evidence of inca,mayan,aztecs living there. Again, mexicans claim of the southwest is pure hypocracy, because they stole the land as well.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
During that time the native civilizations didn't create major cities unlike in the current Mexican territories, plus native Americans from Mexico mixed with other native Americans such as the navajo. Obviously since major cities weren't built evidence of our culture has been at most rare, however whatever evidence of the navajo,zuni, or apache culture in the southwest has many similarities with our native americans, Coincidences I think not.
bgonza2 4 years ago
However, the zuni, navajo, and apache cultures are ALL EXISTING. Infact, most of the natives have their own reservations and they are living within the existing framework of their culture. Do you want to take all of that away from them by taking over their land with an azlan invasion? If so then you are a huge hypocrite! The southwest natives went NOWHERE! Infact the yuma cuchan tribe kicked the spanish out of their territory! (mestizo precursors!)
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Your ignorance is abundant I'll give you that much, all those native american cultures you've talked about do have Mexican ancestry, as a matter of fact wasn't it the U.S. little role to almost if not entirely wipe out all the native americans or kicked them away from their own native lands. I wouldn't be talking about hypocrisy if I was you, or if I was a U.S. American.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza2 WRONG more like all of those natives that exist within mexico have ancestory of the natives in the lands of the now US. The navajo came from up north, the zuni apache and hohokom came from up north. Migrations went south not north! You can see it in the DNA and in the linguistic patterns. Unlike you, i don't have the luxury of pulling stuff out of my ass.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
"Aztec" is just a broad term encompassing a bunch of different tribes, based on their Nahuatl origin. The Apache and other Athapascan tribes didn't migrate (after being pushed sothward by other tribes like the Blackfeet and Comanche) until long after the Nahua (Uto-Aztec) tribes had already settled in what is now the SW (like the Hopi who are still there), while other tribes like the Tlaxcalan continued migrating southward into what was called Anahuac (now part of Central Mexico).
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Man-made geopolitical borders aren't a good barometer of where a race or group of people with a common ancestry begin or end. The Yaqui and the Tohono O'odham on both sides of the current US/MX border are good examples of this.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
The same BS history states that the inhabitants of Aztlan had space ships, and universities. These people supposedly settled hundreds of worlds throughout the known universe, only to have Europeans come along and defeat them with black powder. It makes no sense of course, but then again lets look at the jealous, angry source.
jackbelias 4 years ago
In order for our nation to progress we must end corruption in our country I don't disagree, but in order to be fully complete we must get our lands back with interest of course.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Yes, my culture is heavily influenced by the spanish, but I condemn past actions taken by the spanish and adopt the ideal that the greatness of the Americas before Spain was superior to the present state of my country. Secondly I know what these three things did... they are the only reason the spanish were "superior" to the indigenous"... and pride is the only thing that remains from this... it's about a struggle and survival... not about a "hurt ego".
zerjio89 4 years ago 2
zerjio - i too am facinated by the incan greatness Atahuallpa's defeat set the stage for how future colonialists acted in the americas; however, that defeat was inevitable. Civilizations absorb technology either acceptingly or forcefully. It isn't the colonialists fault that they are the result of defeats by indo-aryan civilizations or romans or persians before them. Get off your high horse and see things on a greater scale!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
no... actually neither the romans nor any other civilization had any right to anything they did of the sort (conquest)... therefore I admire more progressive civilizations like the Incas you mentioned and cults like the Quakers... or native Americans of north America... or the chinese by mere marriage and population... violent conquest is terrible regardless... it's barbarous.... and shall be condemned...
zerjio89 4 years ago
Violent conquest was a part of civilization since the persians and the phonesians. How about the homosapian supplantation of the neanderthals? Again, no mestizo can claim to be the supplanted, for he is a supplanter. Mestizos are no different than caucasian/african americans because both are the result of former colonialists and both supplanted the incumbant native populations.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
I as a Mexican man, do understand and recognize all of Latin Americas faults, corruption and poverty, as well as high crime rates, but with all due respect it doesn't compare to the problems that the U.S. creates and has in its own territory. Many of the problems around the world, are cause one way or another indirectly by the United States. You call as colonialists ok ill give you that but rememer were not the cause were the effect.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza - is it the cynical one to blame all of the worlds ills on the US. That country which has given the world more in food and monetary aid is one which takes the most blame, that is a huge load of crap, granted I blame the us for el salvador and its policy against cuba, but for other places in the world blame is placed elsewhere. How long has the us existed? More than 200 years! The monroe doctrine ended up benefiting latin america.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Of course the U.S. is to blame, i'm sorry most of the world think so, Millions of people can't all be wrong, I do recognize that the U.S. is not in fault for all of the world's problems but, that doesn't change the fact that many of their foreign policy does negativaly effect the rest of the world.
bgonza2 4 years ago
The world is full of pacifists, people who just want to sit by and watch the world pass them. I don't support everything the us has done. I know in some instances we've caused more harm than help, on the other hand, there are import exceptions. If the American gov didn't defy public opinion in ww2 then probably mexicans will be speaking German. Foreign policy worked for the world in that case. It didn't work for others. Overall I think the us has done more good than harm.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
In your response of the U.S. foreign policy doing more good than harm, I have little to say to you, but keep thinking that, because you refuse to know the truth unlike the rest of the world.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Truth is relative to an individuals opinion on things. I guess there is no such thing as absolute truth, because truth related to peoples own definitions and perspectives.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
I'll give you that, but I think my truth is bigger than yours, and much of the world would probably agree with mine truth than yours.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Yea, a bunch of illegals like your brand of "truth".
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
you bet we tell the truth, hell our truth is more believable than the truth that the U.S. gives its citizens. I'll have more confidence of the truth given by almost all the nations of the world before I believe the U.S. so called "truth"
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza that is why the mexican government puts down labor and keeps labor in subsistant conditions, whilest blaming the US government. Encouraging them to cross the boarder. Your truth is tanted with nationalist sentiment encouraged by your one party centralist government.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
We as Mexicans have to overthrow our own government i'll give you that much, because it is so corrupted, but I hope when Mexico FINALLY!!!! establishes a good just government our people can prevail, end poverty, and hopfully become a first world nation, and regain all the territory taken from us plus more from the United States. I don't hate Americans, I just want justice for my people that is all, I sometimes talk trash but only if people talk trash first.
bgonza2 4 years ago
You want the entire North American continent for Mexico? How about Alaska and Hawaii too? Where is everyone else supposed to live? Mexicans alone claiming a racially pure Mexico spanning every square inch of all 7 continents is just typical "anti racist" BS. Get a grip on your absurd birth rate, you will have more money and enough land space.
jackbelias 4 years ago
No I don't want the entire North American continent for Mexico, I just want what was ours before being take away from the U.S. and plus some interest wouldn't hurt, I would take Alaska as well seeing how the state is bigger than the whole country of Mexico, our nation will then be immense and one of the biggest territories in the world, but of course that is just my fantasy. listen jackbelias I don't hate you or your people but the U.S. has caused us so many injustices that need to be resolved.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza - you know a lot of apache indians in new mexico and arizona hate the mexicans! You know that talk isn't going to fly with them, and they will be sure to join the us army when you send your "troops" to america. ;)
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Maybe the Apache indians would join the U.S. army, or maybe seeing how the U.S. has had a long evil legacy of eliminating millions of Native Americans and stealing their lands in the process maybe they'll join us instead, or maybe they thinking both sides are bad will act neutrally. who knows.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza after seeing how you treat the natives in the mexico territory i'm sure they will stay with us seeing as how mexico has been a loser country for 150 years. Atleast they have prosperity on their lands having casinos and mining rights. Do the natives in mexico have that? NO instead they are murdered by the fedralies! BTW apaches kicked the mexicans out after independence. ;)
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Maybe, the Apache would join the American army maybe the wouldn't or just maybe they'll remain neutral and side to the winner. Who knows.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Apaches were raiders. They were nomadic. They would take captive Mexicans as wives and Mexicans did the same to them. The Spanish government wanted to do away with the constant raiding so they put a price tag on their scalps, literally -- this is the root of the resentment.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
star which justifies that mexico should never be in charge of apache lands.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
The Spanish should never be in charge of ANY indigenous land period and neither should any other Europeans. And the "Anglos" were no better than the Spanish; they also committed genocide against the indigenous and those that weren't exterminated were forced onto reservations. (Trail of Tears, Geronimo, etc)
19505555 4 years ago
"and they will be sure to join the us army when you send your "troops" to america."
Mexican-Americans are the highest-decorated ethnic group in the U.S. military -- replete with Medals of Honor, Silver Stars, Bronze Stars and other commendations.
Hey bgonza2 look up Sgt. Rafael Peralta -- he should be another MoH recipient.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
star japanese americans were the most decorated ethnic group in ww2.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
"Hispanics" are the most decorated ethnic group in World War II, Korea and Vietnam, with Mexican descent soldiers comprising the bulk of those commendations. Mexican-Americans have been cited for meritorious combat duty in disproportiantely large numbers -- earning more Congressional Medals of Honor, the highest citation conferred in this country for going above and beyond the call of duty, and other citations, than any other ethnic group in the United States. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
Since WWII when Mexican-Americans were classified as "white" and allowed to serve in integrated military units, 34 of the 39 MoHs awarded to "Hispanics" were given to Mexican-Americans. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
In WWII Mexican-Americans earned 13 Congressional Medals of Honor, and the second-most decorated American in the entire World War was a Mexican-American from San Antonio, TX named Cleto Rodriguez (fellow Texan Audie Murphy was the first highest). Other citations awarded by other countries included 31 Belgium Croix de Gerre and 3 French Croix de Guerre (awarded by their respective countries recognizing acts of heroism on their soil).
19505555 4 years ago
During the Korean War 9 Hispanics were awarded the Medal of Honor and more than 100 others received Distinguished Service Crosses and Silver Stars. In Vietnam one in two Hispanics served in a combat unit; 1 in 3 were wounded in action, 1 in 5 were killed in action. Mexican-American Albert F. Rodriguez was the most decorated soldier of the Vietnam War.
19505555 4 years ago
During the Vietnam War seventeen Congressional Medals of Honor were awarded to Hispanics, mostly Mexican-Americans (most of them posthumously). Although Hispanics only made up about 4.5% of the total U.S. population at that time, we incurred more than 19% of the casualties, compared to a 12 percent rate for U.S. soldiers as a whole. -- fin
19505555 4 years ago
Japanese americans are the most decorated minorities in WW2, infact the most decorated of all americans!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
We caused you to need an absurd amount of landspace for a population that triples every 20 years? This absurd birthrate creates poverty, European Americans are careful to keep a low birth rate for a higher standard of living. Lets say you exterminate the Alaskin natives and Europeans living there, how will you settle much of it? There are no stolen lands, Mexico enlisted Europeans to homestead territory, Texas comes to mind.
jackbelias 4 years ago
When the northern part of Mexico was ceded to the U.S. (Manifest Destiny) it lost about 80% of its arable land, not to mention all the natural resources in these lands, including oil which the U.S. profited immensely from. European-Americans flooded Mexican territory and became the majority -- now that the demographics are changing against their favor they don't like the idea of becoming a minority group. cont...
stargazer3k 4 years ago
European-Americans are not "careful to keep a low birth rate". A significant portion of your population is old and aging (Baby Boomers). And don't confuse your infertile and effete shortcomings with some sort of controlled birth rate plan. There is no such thing on your part. The fact of the matter is the world at large is outstripping your population growth rates with Mexicans and Asians being among the two fastest-growing groups in this country. cont...
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Yes we do as we think standard of living to be important. The more kids you have the less wealthy you live. Many refuse to have any kids as no children means a comfortable living. We are not infertile, we simply value wealth get it? 8 planets wouldnt be enough to house the mexican population after a few generations so I wonder why they refuse to think of reducing the rate.
jackbelias 4 years ago
So when did the people in the Appalachians with trailer park loads of children or those large Irish families get the memo of this controlled birth rate plan? And you ever wonder why all those Enzyte and other fertility drugs are targeted at white-bread "Bob" with his goofey smile on those commercials?
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Very few have large families. Poverty in that region is brought about by a lack of workplaces. Having large numbers of children would starve them to death in no time flat. Big Irish families have become a thing of the past for the most part. Fair to say people who live in trailer parks never need enzyte according to you? Most commercials target whites. Cleaners, department stores, autos, etc...
jackbelias 4 years ago
There's always an exception to the rule -- in this case the Irish don't need boner pills unlike some of the other European immigrants. Back to the point of contention -- the European-descent population is declining world-wide, including in America. Colored people have younger (fertile) faster-growing populations. There isn't the unchecked white growth rate of the post-WWII boom anymore. Many parts of the SW US are already majority-minority states.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Stargazer you are borderlining ignorance. Now you are talking about how white populations everywhere have declining populations. It isn't just whites. it is Asians as well like in Korea,China and Japan. It has nothing to do with race as much as it has to do with culture. Highly organized and civil societies are facing this, not because of race!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
From a 1998 UN projection:
"by 2050 the world is expected to have 8.9 billion people, an increase of nearly half over the 2000 population. By 2050, the share of Asia will be at nearly 60 per cent, that of Africa will have more than doubled, to 20 per cent, and that of Latin America nearly doubled, to 9 per cent. Meanwhile the share of Europe will decline to 7 per cent, less than one third its peak level achieved at the beginning of the twentieth century. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
"While in 1900 the population of Europe was three times that of Africa, in 2050 the population of Africa will be nearly three times that of Europe." --end
19505555 4 years ago
For the countries you brought up as examples of having declining populations: N. Korea's latest famine not too long ago cost them as much as 10% of its overall population by some estimates. S. Korea isn't a so-called third world country like N. Korea but it's still densely populated along with China which had to enforce their "one-child policy" to curb population growth. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
And I don't know how you could cite China as an example of a country having a population decline like some European countries -- now _that_ is ignorant; it's the most populous country in the world.
19505555 4 years ago
compare chinas age demographic to Mexicos. That will answer your question! Same with Japan and South Korea. Other than that, countries like india have a high majority of youth which means that they are still undergoing population growth but mexico is still even higher.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Finally jackbelias -- colonialism, exploitaiton and racism create poverty, and for Mexicans this was at the hands of the Spanish then the Anglos (and other European immigrants who profited from white skin privilege). I agree with zerjio89, adopting a nativist papadigm/model is superior to any Euro-centric one. cont...
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Immigrants like yourself have a tendency to look at the symptoms and not the root cause of the problem because you don't want to face the facts and accept the truth of your people's colonialism.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
stargazer - immigrants like me? You are making a generalization of me of me and 'my kind' when you don't even know me, what makes you think that i am a result of colonialist, i'll tell you that you and 'your kind' are the legacy of colonialists! Don't forget the spanish blood in your mestizo blood!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Based on your pro- European-American immigrant rhetoric I assume that's what you are. You made an assumption as well. And not all Mexicans are mixed-blood indigenous people like myself. About 30% of the Mexican population are full-blood indigenous. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
And that 30% figure is actually higher considering in MX there doesn't have to be any actual genetic admixture with a Spanish bloodline to be considered Hispano / mestizo; all it takes is being able to speak Spanish or dressing in "modern" clothes. Consequently, any indigenous person who speaks Spanish or wears a vaquero hat is considered Hispanic/mestizo.
19505555 4 years ago
Yeah everyone can go back to a superior society where there is no electricity, running water, motorized transportation, wheeled carts, etc... We would all feel oh so superior while living in mud huts telling our grandchildren rumers of magical devices that could cool the air in a household.
Overpopulation and corruption causes poverty, stop blaming your shortcomming on us.
jackbelias 4 years ago
We had advanced civilizations in America prior to any European immigrants invading our land -- agriculture, calendrics, mathematics, astronomy, medicine was all part and parcel of that. And unlike European civilizations we didn't arrogate other civilizations' advancements as our own. And again, you are the problem not the solution. If left without your germs/diseases and guns (by way of Chinese gun poweder btw) the advanced indigenous American civilizations would have continued to evolve.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
stargazer who is this 'WE'? Are you 100% native or are you mestizo? LOL! Not to deny you are imagined or real native heritage, but it is overly convenient for mexicans to deny their native heritage and embrace it out of convenience. Anyway, the aztecs had the most advanced civilization in the new world which completely broke down before the spanish invasions. Their chiefdom isn't unprecidented however, the pacific islanders had similar.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
A rose by any other name is still a rose. Barring criollos (Spaniards born in MX) Mexicans are indigenous people in genotype and phenotype. Mexican (English) > Mejicano (Spanish) > Mexica (Nahuatl plural) Mexicatl (Nahuatl singular). The Mexica (Me-SHE-ka) were the largest Nahua / Aztec tribe at the time of the conquest by the Spaniards -- hence the term. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
Our staple food is indigenous (tacos, tamales, frijoles, maiz, etc), our religion is a fusion of Catholicism and native religion (eg. Dia De Los Muertos). You get the point.
19505555 4 years ago
And no, it's not a convenient attempt to embrace our indigenous heritage or disavow from it. The Mexicans in this country, unlike in some parts of MX, are very proud of our indigenous heritage. All the references to brown pride from the Chicano Movement to the cholos on the streets are in acknowledgement of our native heritage. There's a lot you don't understand.
19505555 4 years ago
Yeah sure, advanced societies nobody has ever seen evidence of. We didnt steal electricity, math, rockets, autos, etc... My people have achieved nearly every hurdle we have put our minds to. You also state that guns caused roving bands of barbarians to fail to advance. Technology was going to make the bow and arrow obsolete someday, besides you claim there was a super high tech society, how did they manage to be defeated by black powder?
jackbelias 4 years ago
"Overpopulation and corruption causes poverty, stop blaming your shortcomming on us."
You can't sweep hundreds of years of genocide, colonization and enslavement under the rug. You hold a stacked deck and then wonder why we can't win. The game is fixed. Only relatively recently in American history have non-whites had de jure equality.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
Oh wow its the red college student rant weve all heard for decades. Everyone else is saying it so you feel the need to repeat it. Most whites are working class, many are born below the poverty line, and nobody hands us anything for free. We have a sense of structure and good order, this alone is what we really have on the rest of the world. Few can compare to our culture, Japan for example earns respect with no stacked deck, just alot of structure.
jackbelias 4 years ago
stargazer your ancestors are complicit in the "genocide, enslavement and colonialization. Stop ignoring over your own legacy! America spearheaded equality while in most places in the latin world still doesn't have racial equality! Who are you to teach anyone as a latin in latin america????
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Read my other posts. I denounce the Spaniards and the Anglos. I'm not sure who were more racist. They both committed genocide. They both enslaved native people and Africans. They both set up a pigmentocracy which still prevails in many ways here in America. cont...
19505555 4 years ago
Actually, equality in America was spearheaded when the the Spanish crown was overthrown in the early 1800s and slavery was abolished in Mexico. Slavery wasn't abolished in the U.S. until 1865 and after a costly civil war. And the racism that prevails in so-called "Latin America" is primarily at the hands of the ruling class whites (criollos).
19505555 4 years ago
European Americans were enlisted to settle. They were required to serve Mexico. They did eventually become a majority in the region. Mexico never really held those lands and the need to enlist Europeans proves it. Something tells me Mexico claims any land anywhere in the world with valuable resources.
jackbelias 4 years ago
It was actually the Tejanos (Mexican Texans) in, at that time, the volatile Coahuila y Tejas, who were inspired by the indigenous and mixed-blood indigenous Mexican victory over the Spanish/peninsulares/criollos in the Mexican War of Independence, that initiated the war against (Spanish/criollo) Santa Anna's dictatorship. cont...
stargazer3k 4 years ago
The first attempts by the Tejanos to overthrow Santa Anna's regime weren't successful however (it led to some of them being hanged publicly) and when they allied with the "Anglos" the agreement was that they would govern the new republic jointly but the European immigrants backstabbed the Tejanos and relegated them to second-class citizenship.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
The vested interest on the part of the European immigrants in seceding from MX was that they wanted to be a slave-holding territory, which was outlawed in MX afer their independence from Spain. And at that time there was also a lot of political wrangling in Coahuila y Tejas that only precipitated the war against Santa Anna's regime.
stargazer3k 4 years ago
star the Euro immigrants didn't backstab them, Texas really was a republic for a whole decade until texas voters approved the annexation into the US.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
About José Antonio Navarro, one of the signers of the Texas Declaration of Independence: "In the Republic of Texas era, Navarro served as Bexar's representative in the Texas Congress. From the beginning, he saw that Tejanos were being shut out of the legal process by Anglos, and he tried to protect their land claims and other rights. Throughout his life, Navarro would assume the responsibility for giving voice to the concerns of Tejanos."
19505555 4 years ago
star manifest destiny wasn't about ceding mexico to the us You are confusing it with gadsden and guadalupe purchase. You seem to forget that the mexican families greatfully accepted american sovergnty and became very successful. Lots of mexican families own vineyards and ranches and became some of the oldest most prosperous families in those territories. None of the mexicans lost their established homesteads. Go back to your encyclopedia, you are getting it all wrong.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
José Antonio Navarro [ibid]: "To his dismay, he lived to see his people lose most of their land holdings and political influence and become a working underclass to the Anglo Americans. Navarro wrote articles and a book in which he set the record straight about the contributions of the Tejanos to Texas independence, pointing out that the citizens of Bexar and elsewhere were fighting for Texas freedom 25 years before the Alamo."
19505555 4 years ago
About my post -- citing Manifest Destiny in parentheses after mentioning northern MX being ceded to the U.S. -- I'm aware The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (which was a coercion) was the result of the end of the Mexican-American War. What I was trying to convey was that it was the doctrine of Manifest Destiny that motivated the Anglos to expand westward whether by hook or crook. [Mexican land being ceded by way of Manifest Destiny]
19505555 4 years ago
Jackbelias - i think it is hilarious that meztisos like bgonza try to claim heritage to a land when they themselves are the legacy of colonialist spain. HAHAHHAHA
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
They actually teach their children that there was a Mexican super race who inhabited "Aztlan". Aztlan is all 7 continents, and much of the known universe. All inferior races are to be exterminated so the empire can return. What really drives this mythology is their high birth rate and the increased need for land space. The same birth rate that makes them poor.
jackbelias 4 years ago
bgonza - you will never get anything for your country as long as you harbor this "defeatest" attitude. You will never get any of the territory back, because it isn't yours to begin with. You want to drag the rest of the world into your deprived 3rd world hellhole and that isn't going to fly. We payed for the lands fair and square, your santa anna sold you out, you have only yourselves to blame. Other than that, i agree with you, i hope you do succeed in changing things in mexico.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Indeed Santa Anna sold us out, but that is why no reason why we can't get our lands back, unfortuately and only IF necessary by any means.
bgonza2 4 years ago
I'am a nationalist, and proud of it, you seem to imply that being nationalist is bad, but I disagree. Mexico is filled with corruption from our government I accept, and I want a political revolution to eliminate all the corruption in my nation. But if and when we succeed in ending corruption in Mexico, I still want all of our lands take away from the U.S. and then some, I don't hate the U.S.A. I just want justice that's all.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza - yea, you just harbor resentment against the us, and because of that, you will always be down in the dirt in your 3rd world realm. Things will not improve until you take that defeatest angst and get with the modern age. Other than that, i would love to see mexico achieve 1st world status and to modernize its government and social system including having 2 party democratic rule etc...
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
First of all I don't have a defeatest attitude, from of it I have a revolutionarist attitude that wants my country to prevail and become a globalist nation, but in order to do that we must conquer back the lands taken away from the U.S.
bgonza2 4 years ago
see, you see the destiny of your land by taking someone elses land, well bull s*it you might as well as build a rocketship to the moon because that is going to be no harder than to take back the lands of the southwest us, all the most heavily armed americans are there and we have nukes at airforce bases in southern cities.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
America has the most powerful military in the world, no doubt about that, but remember vancouverbluz, not all empires last forever. Sooner or later another country might become the next superpower who knows. But I truly believe we will get our lands bact sooner or later its our destiny, although it is hard to believe I know.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza yes, not all empires last, but it isn't going to be mehico that ends our empire, i garantee it will be china. China or possibly india are well on their way to improving the welfare of their population through domestic economic agenda. MExico is heading in the reverse direction of that. Mexico is like russia, they are living off of their material comodities, instead of investing in their social welfare and labor pool. Mexico would rather push them upon the US to pay for their welfare.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Again they were never your lands, the Mexicans used Europeans to settle territory. Your birth rate demands at least 4 continents now, all 7 in less than 20 years. This is not a destiny, but rather an out of control rate of reproduction you alone are at fault for. With all 7 continents to yourselves with all other peoples exterminated you would still need more land in under two generations.
jackbelias 4 years ago
They indeed were our lands before it was the native Americans who owned it then the Europeans but then we owned them, and we just want them back by any means necessary, and I don't want to insult nobody but that's the only way things go sometimes.
bgonza2 4 years ago
I just want justice for Mexico that's all The U.S. took our lands and we want them back with interest. I don't wish the U.S. any harm but Mexico needs to regain its territories. You can't change my mind as I know I can't change yours. We come from two different worlds with different views.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bgonza well i think that about ends our conversation, you're just talking about of hateful spite, which is looking mighty pathetic in my eyes, so basically, i'm bored! If you could back your blabbering up with historical evidence of land theft then i'll engage, if not then good bye.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
What do you want to talk about then Vancouverbluz??? You tell me more specifically.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Ok so Mexico gets the entire continent plus Alaska and Hawaii, nevermind the fact that much of it was never Mexico. The Mexicans didnt even have the population needed to settle Texas but now claim an entire continent? Does Mexico intend to pay us back 7 times the land value for every square inch that wasnt Mexico in the first place? We would of course have to remove all improvements from said land, power plants, water purification, roads, etc...
jackbelias 4 years ago
bgonza2 what you just said shows me your defeatest attitude. I completely admire someone like hugo chavez for throwing away the defeatest mentality and the foreign national corporations and nationalizing the countries resources for the purpose of bringing up labor and the wealth of the people within that country. Putin did the same thing in russia and now the country is thriving.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
YES! Malkin is Filipino.let her explain the horror stories of all the hundreds of american children father by american soldier, abandon by them, and left on the street of in the philippines after the world's largest base closed down. afterall
the U.S. state dept don't regard these blond hair blue eye 8 yrs old who are dieing on the street of drugs and violance as american citizens but garbage.
linershade9991 4 years ago
The problem is your country is really our country, and sooner or later it will be ours again, You may call me an asswipe, but at least i'm not a cracker, and worst yet i'm not a White American now thats an insult.
bgonza2 4 years ago
Bjonza2 - MEXICO has never won an offensive war with another country. BRING IT ON B*(CH! We will pound your country back into the stoneage! Your words are like air, they are without merit, they are without substance. You are a pathetic human being.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
I'm Mexican and i'm very proud of my heritage, sorry that I can't say the same to you, and I wouldn't be surprised if you "intelligence" that you claim to have, makes you into one of those very arrogant Americans who thinks he/she is better than every one else. Think before you write.
bgonza2 4 years ago
bjonza you may be proud of your heritage, but you are also afraid of Michelle Malkin. You are afraid of her superior intellect!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
lol, Michelle Malkin talking about the U.S. as if she was a pure American woman. Ha she's not American although she wants to be, probablay wishes she was white too. Trying to be white. sell out to her Asian heritage. She should be ashamed. I bet she's scared of Mexicans and Blacks. Damn wannabe American.
bgonza2 4 years ago
I hate her... but don't call her wanna be American... she is American... I don't think country of origin or race declares being American...
Zerjio 4 years ago
Michelle u sux
jamil316 4 years ago
fuckup their country and fuck them up when they seek asylum.
igimaru 4 years ago
Lies, I have seen no truth to any of this at all. It is a lie just like WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION.
MALKIN=MEDIAWHORE. I have not met a Mexican that has known a Iraqi. I don't see proof of what this guy says.
chewbaca1989 4 years ago
they should b mostly concerned of canada that is were all the terrorist came 4rm!!.
SxPx310 4 years ago
Go democrats!
yescabmex 4 years ago
How anyone can be so much for the idiotic democratic party after what they pulled last week when they underhandedly and clearly broke the rules for the first time in congressional history to get a bill passed that benefits illegal aliens is insane! To think they would stoop that low to get a bill passed that benefits illegals when most American are pissed off at illegals shows how arrogant and out of touch this bastards are!
kukulcan12 4 years ago
how dare you have the name kukulcan and say that... seriously... you are just so ignorant... and these people are not arrogant... they seek an opportunity and I don't see what's wrong w/it beind illegal... I mean... it was ILLEGAL for a woman to vote before 1920... LAW EVOLVES IDIOT!
Zerjio 4 years ago
zerjio - law evolves for american nationals, not foreign invaders! Illegals will always be slave labor. Now they want to influence american policy and laws, well why don't they influence their own government to make changes to their labor and wages? BLAME EVERYTHING ON AMERICA If they want to be that way, we don't want their kind here.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Oh I'm sorry... I shouldn't blame the US for it's imperialistic policies in Latin American countries that led to horrible dictatorships and bad economic crises! And I shouldn't blame bigots like you for America's close-mindedness!
Zerjio 4 years ago
I recongnize americas policies that wrong latin american nations; however, he had policies that righted latin nations as well like we bailed latin america out of a financial strain forgiving loans made by the world bank. Take the gdam good with the bad assh*((!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
you can't correct 100 years of oppression with a gift basket... so please... don't try to absolve your country's policies so easily... washing your hands won't do it this time, pilate...
zerjio89 4 years ago
zerjio - hey i support hugo chavez too, he kicked foreign economic interests out of his country and now his country is richer because of it. More money will go to the locals for education and economic development. To me venesuella is a perfect example of nationalized resources for economic development. MEXICO should take the example of venesuella!
vancouverbluz 4 years ago
Actually, I believe Hugo Chavez is an absolutist idiot... but oh well... that's kinda irrelevant now...
zerjio89 4 years ago