Hitting first: why, where, and is it right ?

[DavySigfusson]

Many people can punch so fast that, at that range you have no, or little to no, chance of defending yourself from it... thanks for the good advice.

[YungLaosKid]

the guy thatds being used is like punch me one more time... 

[232323C]

its mostly programmed that if we hit first we go to jail.....in usa....its a bloody shame

[sh4rpsh0t33]

This guy has great practical advice. I have seen loads of martial arts videos, but this guy has one that is actually useful.

[Sagramorbald]

imho the most effective first strike in a fight is an elbow blow to the jaw or the temple.

Avoid the temple, tough, if you're not in a very serious situation, it may cause severe injury.

[TheKlaj1992]

if you manage to knock them out just leave the scene

[c0d24live23]

Hitting first will scare your oponent

[EBIKE100]

Brilliant stuff. Well done.

[lathesius]

Another alternative to punching is the open palm strike. This is effective in a number of ways. There is less chance of breaking your hand if you miss the jaw, plus an open palm strike can be just as effective and powerful as any punch.

Also, in the psychological sense, a "slap" sounds less likely to land you in the shit with the law than a punch. If you punch someone full bore and knock them out, that seems very intentional. Knocking a guy out with a slap might sound less severe in court.

[HIRE2HACK]

A friend of mine was once involved in a road rage incident in which he got out his vehicle and knocked the guy out whom was pounding on his bonnet. His opponent unfortunately died not because of the punch but the hard concrete he smashed his head on. He subsequently spent 9 months on remand with a not guilty verdict for manslaughter having pleaded self defense. Just goes to show the coin flip side and what one possible scenario can happen.

[4030bing]

Top men. Geoff you and Peter certainly understand street fighting having spent many years on the doors in some of the roughest clubs in britain, I recommend your books to all out there better still attend your seminars something.

[thenoodlesgroup]

nah mate their not bullies immature dick heads. depends this situation if you drop every cocker fucker you have no self control. Its about doing it in the right situation. you clearly missed that point. And fact still remains a few words really mean fuck all! if he is getting too clever and in your face i am with you completely drop the twat. but just little remarks is a bit extreme.

[Keyskamama]

well we all know that saying by now if not you will . SHIT HAPPENS ! If I sense it is going to fly at me I will fight for my life and run fast first chance I get .. When my gun shooting instrutor was teaching me when to pull down that gun and shoot is when that mad person was within 15 feet of me .. crazy people can jump that far .. maybe two leaps . Going on 60 now and so glad ive had really great teachers in my life .. one of the best was learning to use my cane for defense .

[drumandrokid]

its good to have something and not need it that to need it and not have it.

I like that ;

I hope everybody who come here use that the same good way that u understood it!!

and nothing will be wrong

dont u agree sensei Miyagi

all the best too my friend!!

[marcosramosmarin]

FUCK U AND YOUR ATACKS MEN!!!

WHERE ARE WE LIVING FOR GOD SICK

HE S TEACHING BOYS WHO R REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GET OUT IN THE STREETS TO PUNCH SOMEBODY !!!

men this is outrageous a world who teach to fight is a world that becomes war!!

this is all terrorist rubish man!!

get those boys to do meditation sir because this art is only going to bring them many emotional problems who are related with agressive disorders and integrate them in a social peacefull kind of living!!

[Ghaladh]

Shit happens unless you live in a cave and you never walk outside.

[marcosramosmarin]

IF U WANT TO LEAVE IN YOUR CAVE OF FIGHT GO AHEAD IF U U WANT TO DO PERSONAL DEFENSE.......mmmm ( I dont know if everybody understood this term well......but.....).....

I m sure that if you choose peace ,peace will come to you and that what I have choosen!!

peace is the only recipe to find hapyness!!!

fight is the only recipe to find trouble !!!!

I hope u choose the right path one day son!!

I hope u fight for peace one day son!!!

[Ghaladh]

May the Gods bless your dreamer's soul :-). If anyone would agree with you, the world would be a better place to live... too bad it's not the case right now. I do not criticize you, for you are right, but we must be realists.

[glennmusictech]

Ah the Law of Attraction good stuff.

You are the creator of your own reality and all that.

It is true but its good to have something and not need it that to need it and not have it.

A happy medium.

All the best.

[drumandrokid]

A happy medium? maybe an extralarge?

a sack of trash ...dont want to sell my rubish to anyone!

BUT i M happy u know all that shit of atraction ;at least someone get the idea,and I feel very happy for that;

well I m not going to waist more time answering any other comment here because it seems to dislike most of the people who came here to learn this tecnics of fight...

its mistake trying to feed pigs with flowers anyway;so i wont be sending any message to anyboby back again

peace is the only way

[LuqmanNaq]

Meditation isn't the 'only' way. You seem to display serious aggressive tendecies towards people who disagree with you, you should take your own advice. Keep in mind that some people live in inner city housing estates or violent households, etc where violence and bullying are common... there are no easy answers, I believe violence should always be the last resort, but it is an option. I've personally known of a person who has stopped a rape in progress after training this stuff. No easy answers

[drumandrokid]

meditation ,self conscience,and self awareness,

conecting with the inner and higher state of been ,living that force everysingle moment,the world isnt a place to learn fighting but a place to learn how to save yourself of the material world that u can see but is not real....

maybe .....we dont talk the same language

learn how to save yourself of what u cant see

thats the key....our key

peace man

[LuqmanNaq]

I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious... have you ever been in a situation where your physical well-being/life or someone else life has been threatened? Do you or have you ever lived in an area of high levels of violent crime? Do you not think it is important for some decent people to be able to defend themselves/fight? Reliance on the government (police) is a nice idea but what if you live in an an area of country where they are corrupt and turn a blind eye to violent crime?

[drumandrokid]

sorry man I think u are probably not the guy wich I firstly was talking about, If u are the guy who really understand the term of personal defense ,that s great and I hope this could save u in many troubles.

I m still agree with everything I ve said before anyway and I m sure that u are agree too, if u read that carefully I m sure u ll be agree.

We dont have to discuse anymore about this because I m happy and sure that u will only use your fight in a extreme case of danger for u or others.

Pce

[glennmusictech]

I used the fence on a guy heavier and taller than me 2 months ago and with dialouge it totally backed him off and gave me enough control to avoid violence.

The Police were useless they tried to arrest me when I was the one being attacked.

If anything Geoff has taught me to not fight and be more aware of my negative ego.

[saweet999]

@marcosramosmarin fuck your mother

[HowyaTom]

I agree with everything you say in this video, it was good. But just to pull you up on something, you don't get knocked out from your brain rattling off your skull. You get knocked out because when you strike the mandible nerve in your jaw, it breifly 'short-circuits', for use of a better term, the brain leading to the knockout

[Thehorsestamp]

plus you would have to consider the size of the attacker.If your are 5 foot weighing in at 10 stone,trying to hit someone in the jaw who is 6 foot 6inc weighing in at 20 stone,is full hearty.way up the odds befour you hit first.

[Thehorsestamp]

Body language is so important,and so is the situration you are in.Hitting first has it's place in defence.Most people over stretch when fighting a street fight,this is because they are not trained.Using obstacles like tables,chairs,curbs,cars,dust bins,ect is just as important in street fighting.Know your surroundings,befour you ever hit first,especially if there is more than one.You don't want to trip over a curb,or the leg of a chair after hitting the first person.

[ksipa]

Another exceptional vid! Thanks for sharing.

[Keyskamama]

When a younger woman I was learning Tai Chi a friend taught me if a man I was unwilling to have come on to me , just accept thier approach place your hands on their face tell them how handsome they are then fast backhand thier nose then get away fast . he called it laid out in lavender .

[glennmusictech]

Totally ineffective IM afraid a backhand carries no effective weight or hip action.

An elbow would be much better or palm or punch to the throat.

[Keyskamama]

yes of course the palm or punch to throat much better .. agree , just when the hands stroke so softly downward on the face then the fast upward motion would be back of hand fast turn of hand then palm push that fuckers nose up in his head ...  if ya gotta .

[ajarnguy]

@Keyskamama This sounds like terrible advice. Your friend wasn't an experienced self-defence instructor like Geoff was he?

[NakhitX]

people need to learn to intercept the situation

if the other person is aggressive set up defense and prepare to strike but one should know how not to get into these situations to begin with

especially if it will endanger your family

[MSMninja]

if I feel the need to attack first I will probably use the time i have to set up the proper deffence. if you show a willingness to fight a bully might back down. plus it's easyer to win a fight from the right posture

[njrivetelite]

THE REASON YOU DO HIT FIRST:

In most states you do have a right to defend yourself.. so how is hitting first defending?

When you know you are in imminent danger from being attacked you are then legally allowed to attack the aggressor.. You can then continue striking until the threat has seized to be of any danger to you... Then if u so desire call the police and explain what happened..

Signals are:

Aggressive words.. Forward motioning.. certain body shifting and gestures just for example..

[hyubgaek]

Great advise! I been saying this and people think I'm like dishonorable! Its a war out there, I'll knock that mother fucker out before he even blink!

[MobyVag]

Great advice. However, there's another reason why I always think to myself that I shouldn't hit first. Because there aren't many people of the same race as me in my school. They are mostly Asians and the ones who pick on me are mostly in gangs. So I don't know if they might come after me or anything. I usually just take it because I don't want to get my family & friends in trouble more than being afraid of getting hurt myself.

[blacksilkblacksilk]

Very sound advice. The strike first part, AND the know the law part.

In fact everyone who takes SD serious should preemtively hire a lawyer and obtain solid advice how to handle the police in such a case.

In most countries it is advisable not to make any statement before you have not spoken to your lawyer.

I have seen good men get into deep shit because they thought they where smart enough to understand and use the law. HIRE A LAWYER.

Thank you for posting this, Very good advice!

Greeting

silk

[tbsdrummer87]

Lawyers may be helpful but most are shit bags just seeking money, defending rapists and murders and agreeing to sue someone innocent so someone lazy can get a check

[darktim99]

preach it geoff!

[wadehjb]

I like this guy. He talks cold facts and teaches true self defense.

I've been beaten up in the past because of the hesitation he speaks of here and I've learned from experience that fancy blocks, katas and honour are what will get you hurt not killed.

However, it's pretty lousy when you have to consider the law and whether you're allowed to defend yourself.

[Mngnt]

I wish I could have said that first... ;-D

Utterly true and vital.

Thanks for posting.

[aboewaleed]

Good! 5 stars!!

[Ladysman419]

pre-emptive strike. that's what got U.S. in iraq.

[Panpiper]

They got stuck because they had no follow through. Don't assume the fight is over just because you got in the first punch. And don't assume just because you won the fight, your battle is over, as you still have to win the peace.

[kazo999999]

no the u.s are in iraq cause of oil

[hean8209]

That struck my mind too, but he talks about being preemptive when you are already in the shit, and talking will get you nowhere.

Who is better equipped to stop the fight quickly,

without anyone getting killed or seriously hurt?

You, or the other (obviously socially challenged) guy?

Who might not stop after you get knocked out,

and might kill you in the process?

Who will call the cops/ambulance, him or you?

Who will act responsibly?

The answer is really not that complicated.

[uctis]

true but you have to get serious and raw, no mercy, you have to be primal in the fight if you know you're in the shit. some people get crazy in a fight because their bodys fighting the pain and anguish, sometimes that mode just flips on in serious situations.

[glennmusictech]

You are never in the shit unless someone is throwing punches ect.

Using language engages the brain especially a question it stops an attack point blank then bam you pre empt and knock them out.

[hemal67]

wonderful.

[Panpiper]

There are workshops dedicated to the legal side of self defense and I would highly recommend them. Waiting to be hit first puts you at such a huge disadvantage that it could well cost you your life, especially if there is more than one opponent. But hitting first could well cost you years of imprisonment, unless you completely understand how to handle the legal side of things afterwards. If you aren't 100% certain what to say, say nothing and get a lawyer.

[mosniper831]

Yup just use the 5th amendment.

[Panpiper]

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and WILL be used against you...

And note, this applies to anything you say BEFORE they read you your rights. (Assuming you live in a country where they actually tell you your rights.) Either know exactly the right things to say, or say absolutely nothing until you've got a lawyer, and the latter is likely the best advice.

[mosniper831]

Yup you have to love your miranda rights.

[RoaringTiger281]

Agreed!

[Aegianlulz]

great