Would not surprise me. I am no rocket scientist, but I know, looking at the cut cores in the rubble of WTC 1 and 2, cutter charges were used to bring it down. Most places just seeing what is in the videos after the razing of WTC 1 and 2 in the debris would without a doubt have investigation and criminal accusations follow. Highest office in the land? And you voted for it? A little blame goes to an ink spot you made on a ballot. Careful who you vote for. Power is a drug, these people are high!
The government doesn't need to "infiltrate" 9-11 troof. Letting the knuckleheads speak is enough to make normal people see the deception. I strongly encourage 9-11 troof to be heard by everybody...why should I be one of the few that gets to laugh at them?
Looks like Josh Perkins ran away from the fact that Barry Jennings wasn't alone that day and that Michael Hess was with him and told a very different story.
Also, if Silverstein placed demo charges in the building and his lawyer was in there, don't you think he'd pull the plunger when the 2nd plane hit WTC2? Stupid Truthers!
Hess is now certain that he did not hear an explosion. He just assumed on the day it could have been an explosion because he had witnessed the lights going out, the staircase filling with smoke and the building shaking vigorously.
Michael Hess was Mayor Rudolf Giuliani's chief lawyer, in charge of 800 New York City lawyers. In his first interview since 9/11 he confirms our timeline. Hess says all the lights went out and he felt the building shake like an earthquake and he adds that he did not hear explosions.
bbc DOT co DOT uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/10/caught_up_in_a_conspiracy_theo DOT html
"They then headed downstairs but became trapped around the eighth floor by smoke and debris that filled the staircase. After breaking a window and calling for help, they were spotted by firefighters outside. When the firefighters go in, they also find a security officer for one of the businesses based in the building, who is trapped on the seventh floor by the smoke in the stairway."
Hess, Jennings and a security guard made it out. But bombs don't produce smoke.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) will claim the two men head down the stairs after 9:59, when the first collapse occurs, and then become trapped around the time the second tower collapses, at 10:28.
HistoryCommons . org
So it wasn't a "bomb" that trapped them. Another lie brought up by Josh.
When Jennings says where he is, the superior responds: “Get out of there. Get out of there now.” Hess then runs back into the center, after having found the stairwell, and says: “We’re the only ones up here. We gotta get out of here.”
Whatever Barry Jennings witnessed or described isn't collaborated with any firefighters that were with him. Since he wasn't stunned, knocked out nor killed by any bomb blast, then it's a clear indication that no bombs were ever inside WTC7.
Since WTC7 is some kind of sick joke to you Josh, you use it as an excuse because you read something about it on some lame and pointless Truther website.
You can tell me all you want and I don't give a shit what you claim. The videos from Afghanistan showing the blast radiuses contradicts what you're saying.
It's been known in the CD world that blast radiuses can't be contained. There's a video on YouTube showing a CD going off and spectators gathering around to see it. Debris from the blast hit killed a little girl.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Wow. Did u know that 6 children from the daycare survived the Oklahoma city bombing? But that wasn't a bomb because they survived right? Your logic is shot, realize this, then get over it.
"where are your sources u fuckin tard? look it up its a fact."
I'm a firefighter, I was TRAINED to know you asshole. So you're saying that the blast radiuses can be "contained" and you're using that as "fact"? What a tool you are.
You remind me of Brian Good aka Snug-Bug on SLC. You're just as arrogant, ignorant, stupid and dimwitted as he is and both of you have a passion of talking about just 1 subject.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol go gossip with your friends instead of admitting it is possible to survive an explosion. Because that is your best defense u got that it wasn't a bomb.
"go gossip with your friends instead of admitting it is possible to survive an explosion."
And yet you can't even provide proof that Barry Jennings wasn't stunned or knocked out by these imaginary bombs.
"Because that is your best defense u got that it wasn't a bomb."
Barry Jennings surviving those imaginary bomb blast without getting a single scratch on him and living for many yrs. is my greatest defense ever. You just can't help it that he lived.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Because they survived, is why they could tell their stories of explosions . It is quite possible to survive explosions, like you said, blast radius should be taken into consideration, they obviously weren't 2 feet away from the source. Things between them and the source (walls, floor). you are so simple minded its sad. 'They survived so there was no explosion' Thats retarded! and dismisses their own words!
"Thats retarded! and dismisses their own words!" - You know what else is retarded? Thinking that they survived without being stunned, knocked out or killed from those bombs.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong People CAN survive a bomb. You are sayings its 100% impossible to survive a bomb. Is that what ur really saying? Like i said, take into consideration the blast radius and object between them.
"People CAN survive a bomb" - And all those IED's in Afghanistan are killing inncoent people and U.S. Military people and you say they "survived" them?
"Like i said, take into consideration the blast radius and object between them." - Like Barry Jenning said that the blast was directly under him. But you can't explain how he didn't get buried under a mound of debris nor killed by any shrapnel.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong There are literally thousands of scenarios of how they could've survived a blast. What you are saying is that there is only one, and they would've died. THINK!!!!!!
Squeal all you like you angry little boy. It ain't gonna help your ass to solve the mystery of how they survived those bombs without being stunned, knocked out or killed.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong u even realize wat ur best defense is? your saying that it couldn't be a bomb or even an explosion because if it was, he wouldn't of survived.FYI it is possible to survive a bomb explosion To say its 100% impossible is retarded. u are denying the words of the witnesses who reported bombs, some of which reported explosions in tower2 before a plane hit. Don't tell me to give u names if u haven't seen those vids u havnt done enough research on the matter
"because if it was, he wouldn't of survived." - Right, now you're getting it. "To say its 100% impossible is retarded." - Only those who are retarded (like you) can't understand anything. You don't know what "blast radius" is.
"u are denying the words of the witnesses who reported bombs" - I don't deny that there was a bomb scare at the local high school a few blocks away.
"Don't tell me to give u names" - I not telling you, I'm asking you.
@12weasel100 you fuckers want some real proof 9/11 is a massive cover-up? look up the 911 truck bombs, and the men arrested for them. Don't check the 911 commission report for it cuz its not there!
@poshuajerkins yes we would like real proof 911 is a massive cover up. We have been asking you for days now and all we hear is bullshit lies, opinions, speculation and edited footage. So again we ask you to provide clear facts that WTC was controlled demo
Enough of your bullshit start providing facts and logically explain it all you fucking moron
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong "When i heard building 7 came down i was so suprised...why did that building come down? i knew why it came down because of the explosions,and it was NOT no fuel oil tanks." Jennings. well that nails it down..lol
Well, I'm just confused about one thing. And one thing only: Why World Trade Center 7 went down in the first place. I'm very confused about that. I know what I heard. Iheard explosions. The, the, uh, explanation I got was: It was, uh, the fuel-oil tanks. I'm an old boiler guy." - Barry Jennings
This should nail the coffin on this rediculasness.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong "did the explosion happen before either tower fell?" , asked avery..........."It deffinitly happened before either tower fell..." said jennings. ---the quote u told me is an opinion dumbass. This ones a fact.
I find it extremely funny that NONE of the firefighters who was with him made the same statement as Jennings reguarding those explosions. Without other people witnessing what he "witnessed", you've got nothing
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong you are a brainwashed moron if you think 911 was not covered -up after researching the who how when what and why of the situation. I've been researching since it fucking happened you dont know shit.. BLOCKED
"you are a brainwashed moron if you think" - So says the asshole who can't even produce a scientific peer-reviewed journal to prove that his claims/theories are true.
FYI: Barry Jennings HEARD the 2nd jet go into WTC2. WTC7 was 400 FEET from WTC2 at the time. Stop quote-mining him you prick!
" It looked like King Kong had came through and stepped on it.. Now keep in mind when I came in here, thelobby had nice escalators. It's a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw, it's unbelievable." - Barry Jennings
That's funny, I though Josh Perkins said it was explosives, not King Kong. LOL!
"Keep in mind, the fire department came and ran. They came twice! Why? Because
Building Tower 1 fell. Then, Tower 2 fell. And then when they came back, they came back with all concern to get me the hell outta there. I was trapped in there for several hours. I was trapped in there when both buildings came down." - Barry Jennings
Yup, some how buildings collapsing can magically change into "explosives".
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong You keep saying he just heard an explosion. and that is simply not true watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc&list=FLcTf5FmvjwR2-x9n2eEzQ9g&index=38&feature=plpp_video
"William Rodriguez reported an explosion in the basement that pushed him upwards." - And with him being alive proves that no explosives went off in the basement.
"Witnesses reported explosions in the south tower before the plane even hit!" - If you can't name these witnesses, then the event never occured.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong oh yes that makes sense it is 100% impossible to survive an explosion..2 feet away or 100ft. everyone will die... thats the mindset of u idiots
But you think that Barry Jennings and Willie Rodriguez survived these "Bombs" because they said they heard explosions?
According to what I just read, Barry heard the 2nd plane hit the second tower and Willie heard a noise like an explosion coming from the elevators. So, you're lying, again!
Josh Perkins is using Barry Jennings as a tool to support his nonsense claims of there being explosives inside WTC7.
Since there wasn't any bomb squads present and no physcial evidence of bomb materials found (dead bodies) then the conclussion is simply: There were no explosives in WTC7, period!
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong i thought u said it was the building collapsing, o wait no a backdraft, or bodies falling, o wait no he just heard it. thats 4 times u lie so stfu.
the guilty demeanor of our trusted government officials is ridiculous. Truthers have every right to question the official story yet people like you dont agree and resort to calling us nut-jobs and crazy people, and compare us to murderers. Go watch some television and entertain yourself, keep saying everything is just dandy that our rights are being taken away ever since 9/11. If you knew anything about how hitler rose to power, u would probably have an idea of what was happening right now...
...RJLee company, USGS, and Steven Jones all tested for explosives and found thermate and micro-spheres, in the dust. It's also known that anyone who puts out evidence that disproves the official story of 911 is at risk of losing their job...If you did enough research on Barry Jennings, you would know that's exactly what happened to him. there was no obituary for Jennings and nobody wanted to investigat his death or talk about it. Put the fucking pieces together if u can
Forget it Josh Perkins, you have nothing to offer me as far as evidence is concerned. Barry Jennings isn't a FDNY firefighter and he's not trained to ID explosions as coming from explosives because he's not a bomb technician.
Too many holes in your story pal. Live knowing what I truely know about bombs/explosives. Cause I just might blow your mind with info you don't know.
Documenting the location(s) of victims prior to and after the explosion. Ensuring that victims are examined for bomb component fragments. Autopsies should include full-body x-rays.
No bodies were ever examined to find traces of bomb fragments nor residue. I pity you Josh Perkins, I really do pity you at this moment.
Those who should've seen these alleged explosives inside WTC7: A. Bomb disposal technician. B. Evidence custodian. C. Forensic specialist. D. Logistics specialist. E. Medical examiner. F. Photographer (still, digital, video, etc.). G. Procurement specialist. H. Safety specialist (structural engineer, etc.). I. Searchers/collectors. J. Sketch artist.
The investigator must ensure that photographic documentation is included in the permanent scene record.This documentation should be completed prior to the removal or disturbance of any items.
There were no photographs taken of these alleged explosives inside WTC7 nor video tapes.
Only bomb disposal personnel should handle any suspected devices that are located. Take no further action until the devices have been identified or rendered safe.
The FDNY NEVER IDed any "explosive devices" nor "secondary devices" inside WTC7. No record of Barry Jennings saying he heard of bombs/explosives inside WTC7.
Request additional resources and personnel (e.g., bomb technicians, building inspectors, representatives from utility companies, such as gas, water, and electric) to mitigate identified hazards.
The most common types of explosive/incendiary devices encountered by fire service and law enforcement personnel in the United States are traditionally pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and other improvised explosive/incendiary devices (IEDs).
Of the criminal bombing incidents reported during 1993–97, the top three targets—collectively representing approximately 60 percent of the incidents—were residential properties, mailboxes, and vehicles.
Looks like WTC7 nor the Twin Towers were on the list before 9/11. LMAO @ Josh Perkins.
Almost 24 hours later and Joshua Perkins hasn't got anything intelligent to say. Figures that brainwashed morons like him can't cope with himself of being a mental nutcase.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong I gotta say im not surprised u would bring up that kid who shot that lady and that little girl. Thats pretty fuking low you would resort to stereotypical shit like that trying to help your argument. The US is killing civilians and children every day so if you believe in stereotypes, I guess every american is a psycho murderer. 9/11 was a false flag, the NWO is very real, and you need to open your eyes buddy and realize that.
@poshuajerkins haven't heard from you in a few days. Congratulations you took the final truther step and ran away just as predicted. As predicted you claimed you were not a truther, then spewed out a bunch of truther shit, then had no facts to support, then resorted to calling me sheep and troll, then called names then ran away exactly as a truther would. For someone that is not a "truther" you followed their little handbook exactly as written ahahahah (continued)
@12weasel100 "then resorted to calling me sheep and troll" stfu you hypocrite, you resorted to the same name-calling and compared me to that kid who shot some people...first you say a back-draft caused that explosion, then you say falling bodies did(WTF?), then you act as if there was no explosion at all and that Barry Jennings was mistaken and forced to say it happened before a twin tower collaped by Avery.... I didn't run away, i walked away because you are damn arrogant...cont.
@12weasel100 ...continued ...and you can't accept Barry Jennings' testimony because it doesn't fit in with the original story...There are hundreds of people saying there were explosions & bombs in the buildings and just because the commission ignored it, doesnt mean you have to.
@poshuajerkins (continued) congratulations your journey to the truther side is complete. Your tin foil hat and 911 T Shirt is in the mail you should be receiving them soon.
@poshuajerkins you already have a 911 truth Tshirt. Odd that someone who claims they are not a truther would be wearing one of those. I guess you lied about that too. And I can accept Jennings testimony. He clearly states he never agreed with any of the shit that you fucking idiots spewed out. And we covered "explosions" loud noises and electrical panels etc "exploding does not have to equal "demo charges" (continued)
@poshuajerkins (continued) besides you fail to logically explain your statements anyway. You fail to logically explain how you think charges were set off but unlike all other controlled demos that fall within secs after charges go off WTC7 (where Jennings was) still stands for over 7hrs. You also fail to logically explain how you think there were "charges in the basement but the collapse clearly begins at the exact point of impact and fires. You fail to prove anything or provide fact. You idiot
@12weasel100 You don't seem to understand what a controlled demolition is anyway. It has the word "controlled" It means they can control the way they take it down. Jennings was rocked by an explosion that left him to hang because the floor was destroyed beneath his feet. You both act like that never happened and that he just heard a loud bang. which are lies. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to get that through ur head so unless u got something good to say, im done with u.
"You don't seem to understand what a controlled demolition is anyway." - However, the audio captured that day tells it very differently. Plus a CD can be heard up to 1/2 mile away. Noone heard it 1/2 mile away.
@poshuajerkins yeah and Jennings clearly stated he did not agree with your bullshit and did not believe the "explosion" was controlled demo. The "explosion" was WTC1 hitting WTC7 (where he was) and as TruthersRAlwaysRight has already explained to your shit filled mind could have been any number of things. Explosion does not equal demo charges you idiot.You still have presented no facts. Just the same old Truther bullshit fantasy story.
@12weasel100 Jennings has also said,more than once, that both towers were still standing when the explosion went off. You are going against what he said when u say that it was the south tower falling. Stop making shit up and listen to the man. watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc&list=FLcTf5FmvjwR2-x9n2eEzQ9g&index=38&feature=plpp_video
@12weasel100 and i never said i wasn't a truther u lying piece of shit. of course im a truther, because i want the truth of 9/11. Its ridiculous to me that people like you don't even care because our gov. was forced to create a commission 411 days after 9/11 by the family members. if u are actually pleased with that white washed cover-up of an investigation, then maybe u should actually try reading it, and look into what it took to even make it.because it didnt investigate shit
"our gov. was forced to create a commission 411 days after 9/11 by the family members." - So what? The Waren Commission took place 1 month after JFK got assassinated and there's no evidence to suggest that there were other shooters present because they've found where the lost bullet went. It took Oswald 11 or 12 seconds to pull all 3 shots and it was possible to pull off.
@poshuajerkins (continued) and the NIST report you refer to is approx ten thousand pages of research from hundreds of respected scientists, structural engineers, fire control experts metalologists etc. that I guess to your uneducated mind may appear like shit however when compared to your sources of two pager conspiracy bullshit websites and shitty You Tube vids it seems a little more credible and reliable then shit you are quoting from ahahah you dumbfuck
@12weasel100 If you people take the fucking time to listen to all the videos of people reporting explosions in the trade center...William Rodriguez reported an explosion in the basement that pushed him upwards. Witnesses reported explosions in the south tower before the plane even hit! But u would rather ignore that because it wouldn't help ur argument now would it...Explosions were heard everywhere that day, yet nist never even tested for explosive material....
@poshuajerkins Rodriguez was in the basement he would not have known when the exact moment the planes hit. You also fail to logically explain how you believe demo charges went off in the basement and not only did the towers stand for an hr instead of immediately collapsing but the collapse started at the point of impact and fire not in the basement. Once again you only prove that you are a fucking idiot.
And if there were bombs in the basement, Josh's whole idea about that goes out the window because Willie Rodriguez is still alive. Josh reminds me of that idiot, Brian Good from Screw Loose Change, who flies off the handle when I say the same thing I said about Willie bein alive.
I know what you mean. Yeah, it's like he's saying that since Willie Rodriguez heard an explosion that he thinks that it was done by explosives. But then again there's the eror of Josh's "logic", if there was bombs in the basement, Willie would've died as a result. But yet he's still alive and kicking. Same goes for Barry Jennings.
"You also fail to logically explain how you believe demo charges went off in the basement" - How can there be charges in the basement when Willie Rodriguez is still alive? Answer that question RTard.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong i dont believe in children having guns, why would u say that? I believe in the 2nd amendment but i dont think it qualifies for children...don't put words in my mouth Jack.
Why would I say that? Because you're a loon and any loon like you who asks about guns knows what they would do to innocent people who come asking you questions about 9/11.
Sorry, but I'm gonna put words in your mouth cause you simply don't like it. Just like you put words in the witneses mouths when they didn't say anything. Quote-mine much or just sad that you are?
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Explosions can come from explosives and if all other possibilities of how that explosion happened are dis proven then explosives can be put up as a very strong possibility. My sister is a private investigator, i learn everything i can from her and I see that it's very hard for you to put the pieces of 9/11 together. Instead you rely on ur gov. to do that.
If what you're saying is true, then why hasn't Barry Jennings come forward (before his death) that he also saw bomb squads going into WTC7 prior to it's collapse?
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Oh before his death, you don't mean after? (Iol?) Did Barry say he saw a bomb squad go in wtc7. U got a link? Many witnesses said there were bombs on 911 footage, but just because there were no bomb squads, that doesnt mean much to the investigation, thats just a failure to respond. (not saying they did a bad job of responding on 911 so dont swing that shit at me)
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong ok well from what I know, NO. But like I said, that would just be a failure to respond, it doesnt disprove any theory of bombs being in those buildings. Only video, samples, and testimonial evidence can prove that. all of which, do suggest explosives......
Sure, knock my ass out because you can't stand the truth that you're a brainwashed moron who likes body building videos but doesn't have any weights in his basement at his mothers house because you live on welfare and SSI checks from the Government.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Very good...well this conversation is fucking pointless so maybe we will run into each other when martial law kicks in. but for now fuck off
Keep dodging the issue of you showing that scinetific peer-reviewed journal that could confirm that Barry Jennings "fell" through the "6th floor" inside WTC7.
Ok, I see where this is going. Just because you're black means that you want me to be a racist and then use that against me because you want to change the subject. Not working!
Would not surprise me. I am no rocket scientist, but I know, looking at the cut cores in the rubble of WTC 1 and 2, cutter charges were used to bring it down. Most places just seeing what is in the videos after the razing of WTC 1 and 2 in the debris would without a doubt have investigation and criminal accusations follow. Highest office in the land? And you voted for it? A little blame goes to an ink spot you made on a ballot. Careful who you vote for. Power is a drug, these people are high!
Jimbofx911 2 weeks ago
The government doesn't need to "infiltrate" 9-11 troof. Letting the knuckleheads speak is enough to make normal people see the deception. I strongly encourage 9-11 troof to be heard by everybody...why should I be one of the few that gets to laugh at them?
dreadnaught2 1 month ago
@dreadnaught2
Amen Judge Dread (lol) Amen!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Looks like Josh Perkins ran away from the fact that Barry Jennings wasn't alone that day and that Michael Hess was with him and told a very different story.
Also, if Silverstein placed demo charges in the building and his lawyer was in there, don't you think he'd pull the plunger when the 2nd plane hit WTC2? Stupid Truthers!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
9-11 truth is a failure that has accomplished nothing in 10 years.
dreadnaught2 1 month ago
@dreadnaught2
The only thing they ever accomplished is having the world laugh at their stupidity.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Josh got butt hurt because I brought up about Michael Hess.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Come on Josh, squeal like a piggy for me.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Hess is now certain that he did not hear an explosion. He just assumed on the day it could have been an explosion because he had witnessed the lights going out, the staircase filling with smoke and the building shaking vigorously.
Another nail added to the conspiracy coffin.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"Hess says all the lights went out and he felt the building shake like an earthquake and he adds that he did not hear explosions."
The nail in Josh Perkins conspiracy coffin.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Michael Hess was Mayor Rudolf Giuliani's chief lawyer, in charge of 800 New York City lawyers. In his first interview since 9/11 he confirms our timeline. Hess says all the lights went out and he felt the building shake like an earthquake and he adds that he did not hear explosions.
bbc DOT co DOT uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/10/caught_up_in_a_conspiracy_theo DOT html
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"They then headed downstairs but became trapped around the eighth floor by smoke and debris that filled the staircase. After breaking a window and calling for help, they were spotted by firefighters outside. When the firefighters go in, they also find a security officer for one of the businesses based in the building, who is trapped on the seventh floor by the smoke in the stairway."
Hess, Jennings and a security guard made it out. But bombs don't produce smoke.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) will claim the two men head down the stairs after 9:59, when the first collapse occurs, and then become trapped around the time the second tower collapses, at 10:28.
HistoryCommons . org
So it wasn't a "bomb" that trapped them. Another lie brought up by Josh.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Jennings and Hess subsequently head down the stairs, but will become trapped in WTC 7, and have to be rescued by firefighters.
HistoryCommons . org
Looks like Hess was with Jennings and was telling a very different story from Jennings.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
When Jennings says where he is, the superior responds: “Get out of there. Get out of there now.” Hess then runs back into the center, after having found the stairwell, and says: “We’re the only ones up here. We gotta get out of here.”
HistoryCommons . org
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Whatever Barry Jennings witnessed or described isn't collaborated with any firefighters that were with him. Since he wasn't stunned, knocked out nor killed by any bomb blast, then it's a clear indication that no bombs were ever inside WTC7.
Since WTC7 is some kind of sick joke to you Josh, you use it as an excuse because you read something about it on some lame and pointless Truther website.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong I want you to tell me right now that it is 100% impossible to survive a bomb blast, no matter what the circumstance is.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
You can tell me all you want and I don't give a shit what you claim. The videos from Afghanistan showing the blast radiuses contradicts what you're saying.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Go ahead Josh, squeal like a pig again. I find you hilariously funny and quite entertaining to say the least.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Whatever Josh Perkins says can't be taken as "fact", since he hasn't fully researched about the blast radiuses of different types of bombs.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
It's been known in the CD world that blast radiuses can't be contained. There's a video on YouTube showing a CD going off and spectators gathering around to see it. Debris from the blast hit killed a little girl.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Wow. Did u know that 6 children from the daycare survived the Oklahoma city bombing? But that wasn't a bomb because they survived right? Your logic is shot, realize this, then get over it.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"Did u know that 6 children from the daycare survived the Oklahoma city bombing?"
Wish you would source your info for once instead of just saying it.
"Your logic is shot, realize this, then get over it."
Realize this, you lost big time and all you can do is squeal like a pig. Oink, Oink!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol where are your sources u fuckin tard? look it up its a fact.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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@poshuajerkins
"where are your sources u fuckin tard? look it up its a fact."
I'm a firefighter, I was TRAINED to know you asshole. So you're saying that the blast radiuses can be "contained" and you're using that as "fact"? What a tool you are.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
FYI: Once a Truther is talked about over at Screw Loose Change, there's no escaping your demise.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
You remind me of Brian Good aka Snug-Bug on SLC. You're just as arrogant, ignorant, stupid and dimwitted as he is and both of you have a passion of talking about just 1 subject.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol go gossip with your friends instead of admitting it is possible to survive an explosion. Because that is your best defense u got that it wasn't a bomb.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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@poshuajerkins
"go gossip with your friends instead of admitting it is possible to survive an explosion."
And yet you can't even provide proof that Barry Jennings wasn't stunned or knocked out by these imaginary bombs.
"Because that is your best defense u got that it wasn't a bomb."
Barry Jennings surviving those imaginary bomb blast without getting a single scratch on him and living for many yrs. is my greatest defense ever. You just can't help it that he lived.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Seeing you self destruct yourself is quite hilarious.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong keep changing the subject buddy because you know it is possible to survive a bomb.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"keep changing the subject buddy because you know it is possible to survive a bomb."
LOL Keep on getting pissed off asshole. Of course it's possible if you were about 150 feet away and laying down on the ground.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
You forget that Micheal Hess was also inside WTC7.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
I brought you up at SLC because WTC7 is being talked about.
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TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
I'll keep on asking you this question Josh until you answer it. You love to dodge logical questions because you have nothing to say.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Forget it Josh Perkins, you have no evidence that bombs were in any of the buildings simply because Willie and Barry survived those blast.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Because they survived, is why they could tell their stories of explosions . It is quite possible to survive explosions, like you said, blast radius should be taken into consideration, they obviously weren't 2 feet away from the source. Things between them and the source (walls, floor). you are so simple minded its sad. 'They survived so there was no explosion' Thats retarded! and dismisses their own words!
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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@poshuajerkins
How could Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings survive those bombs without being stunned, knocked out or killed from their blast radius?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"Thats retarded! and dismisses their own words!" - You know what else is retarded? Thinking that they survived without being stunned, knocked out or killed from those bombs.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong People CAN survive a bomb. You are sayings its 100% impossible to survive a bomb. Is that what ur really saying? Like i said, take into consideration the blast radius and object between them.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"People CAN survive a bomb" - And all those IED's in Afghanistan are killing inncoent people and U.S. Military people and you say they "survived" them?
"Like i said, take into consideration the blast radius and object between them." - Like Barry Jenning said that the blast was directly under him. But you can't explain how he didn't get buried under a mound of debris nor killed by any shrapnel.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong There are literally thousands of scenarios of how they could've survived a blast. What you are saying is that there is only one, and they would've died. THINK!!!!!!
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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@poshuajerkins
Listen up shithead: If you think that the blast radius from any type of bomb can be "contained", you're gravely mistaken.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Also if you think that the blast radius from any type of bomb can be "contained", you're gravely mistaken.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Squeal all you like you angry little boy. It ain't gonna help your ass to solve the mystery of how they survived those bombs without being stunned, knocked out or killed.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
How could Willie Rodriguez and Barry Jennings survive those bombs without being stunned, knocked out or killed from their blast radius?
Is there any Truther out there that cares to answer that question?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
So the pussy (Josh Perkins) blocks me from commenting on his channel:
"You are unable to use this functionality because you have been blocked."
What a pure bred pussy!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong u even realize wat ur best defense is? your saying that it couldn't be a bomb or even an explosion because if it was, he wouldn't of survived.FYI it is possible to survive a bomb explosion To say its 100% impossible is retarded. u are denying the words of the witnesses who reported bombs, some of which reported explosions in tower2 before a plane hit. Don't tell me to give u names if u haven't seen those vids u havnt done enough research on the matter
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"because if it was, he wouldn't of survived." - Right, now you're getting it. "To say its 100% impossible is retarded." - Only those who are retarded (like you) can't understand anything. You don't know what "blast radius" is.
"u are denying the words of the witnesses who reported bombs" - I don't deny that there was a bomb scare at the local high school a few blocks away.
"Don't tell me to give u names" - I not telling you, I'm asking you.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Your an idiot.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Sure, I'm the "idiot" because you can't come up with an answer of how Willie and Barry survived those bombs? Pray tell asshole!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong they survived because of the blast radius you idiot. You answered your own dumbass question of how they still alive.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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@poshuajerkins
"they survived because of the blast radius you idiot." - And how come NONE of the firefighters that were with them described these blast radiuses?
"You answered your own dumbass question of how they still alive." - How could they survived without being stunned, knocked out or killed?
Come on you stupid fucker, answer the question.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins haven't heard you logically explain all your shit yet. you still trying to figure out new lies to tell or did you just run away.
ahahahah Typical Truther. Spew out shit, rant and rave but never provide any facts then run away.
Congrats you followed the Truther handbood successfully you earned your tin foil hat.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 you fuckers want some real proof 9/11 is a massive cover-up? look up the 911 truck bombs, and the men arrested for them. Don't check the 911 commission report for it cuz its not there!
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins yes we would like real proof 911 is a massive cover up. We have been asking you for days now and all we hear is bullshit lies, opinions, speculation and edited footage. So again we ask you to provide clear facts that WTC was controlled demo
Enough of your bullshit start providing facts and logically explain it all you fucking moron
Seems you are not able to do so.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"look up the 911 truck bombs, and the men arrested for them."
Oh, you mean the 1993 WTC Bombing that has nothing to do with planes?
"Don't check the 911 commission report for it cuz its not there!"
Of course it's not there, it's all in your fucking mind.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"I've been researching since it fucking happened you dont know shit.. BLOCKED"
Question for Josh: How can you block anyone on their video? Answer: You can't moron!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Since Barry Jennings and Willie Rodriguez survived these "bombs", this then concludes the following statement:
They are alive and that means there were no bombs.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"When I got to that lobby, the lobby was totally destroyed. It looked like King Kong hadcame through and stepped on it." - Barry Jennings
Now how the fuck did King Kong become involved in this massive cover-up?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
So, since Barry Jennings is an old oil burner serviceman. Then his statement about those fuel-oil tanks blowing up should've solved the case then.
So, not only is Josh Perkins lying, he's making up stories to fit his own sick delusions.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong "When i heard building 7 came down i was so suprised...why did that building come down? i knew why it came down because of the explosions,and it was NOT no fuel oil tanks." Jennings. well that nails it down..lol
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Nice quote-mining shithead. Besides I know he said that if it were the fuel oil tanks the ENTIRE building would've came down on top of him.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Well, I'm just confused about one thing. And one thing only: Why World Trade Center 7 went down in the first place. I'm very confused about that. I know what I heard. Iheard explosions. The, the, uh, explanation I got was: It was, uh, the fuel-oil tanks. I'm an old boiler guy." - Barry Jennings
This should nail the coffin on this rediculasness.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong "did the explosion happen before either tower fell?" , asked avery..........."It deffinitly happened before either tower fell..." said jennings. ---the quote u told me is an opinion dumbass. This ones a fact.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
I find it extremely funny that NONE of the firefighters who was with him made the same statement as Jennings reguarding those explosions. Without other people witnessing what he "witnessed", you've got nothing
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Watch and fucking listen to the interview i sent you
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Fuck your editted piece of shit video.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong you are a brainwashed moron if you think 911 was not covered -up after researching the who how when what and why of the situation. I've been researching since it fucking happened you dont know shit.. BLOCKED
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"you are a brainwashed moron if you think" - So says the asshole who can't even produce a scientific peer-reviewed journal to prove that his claims/theories are true.
FYI: Barry Jennings HEARD the 2nd jet go into WTC2. WTC7 was 400 FEET from WTC2 at the time. Stop quote-mining him you prick!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
" It looked like King Kong had came through and stepped on it.. Now keep in mind when I came in here, thelobby had nice escalators. It's a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw, it's unbelievable." - Barry Jennings
That's funny, I though Josh Perkins said it was explosives, not King Kong. LOL!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"Keep in mind, the fire department came and ran. They came twice! Why? Because
Building Tower 1 fell. Then, Tower 2 fell. And then when they came back, they came back with all concern to get me the hell outta there. I was trapped in there for several hours. I was trapped in there when both buildings came down." - Barry Jennings
Yup, some how buildings collapsing can magically change into "explosives".
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong exactly and if u listen, this all happened after he was trapped from the explosion
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
portland . indymedia . org/en/2009/04/390576 . shtml
"I was called shortly after the first plane hit. I got there, uh, I had to be inside on the 23rd
floor when the second plane hit." - Barry Jennings
So, it was the plane that he heard and not some explosive. Josh is lying!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong You keep saying he just heard an explosion. and that is simply not true watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc&list=FLcTf5FmvjwR2-x9n2eEzQ9g&index=38&feature=plpp_video
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
portland . indymedia . org/en/2009/04/390576 . shtml
"I was called shortly after the first plane hit. I got there, uh, I had to be inside on the 23rd floor when the second plane hit." - Barry Jennings
You're lying again dickwad!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
"William Rodriguez reported an explosion in the basement that pushed him upwards." - And with him being alive proves that no explosives went off in the basement.
"Witnesses reported explosions in the south tower before the plane even hit!" - If you can't name these witnesses, then the event never occured.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong oh yes that makes sense it is 100% impossible to survive an explosion..2 feet away or 100ft. everyone will die... thats the mindset of u idiots
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
But you think that Barry Jennings and Willie Rodriguez survived these "Bombs" because they said they heard explosions?
According to what I just read, Barry heard the 2nd plane hit the second tower and Willie heard a noise like an explosion coming from the elevators. So, you're lying, again!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Josh Perkins is using Barry Jennings as a tool to support his nonsense claims of there being explosives inside WTC7.
Since there wasn't any bomb squads present and no physcial evidence of bomb materials found (dead bodies) then the conclussion is simply: There were no explosives in WTC7, period!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong If you want to limit your evidence to those 2 things then yea i guess there is no good evidence to support it...fucking moron
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Awe, geting mad bro? Get mad bro!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong No im sad and annoyed that people are as close minded as you.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
I'm not the one quote-mining Barry Jenning nor Willie Rodriguez now am I?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong i thought u said it was the building collapsing, o wait no a backdraft, or bodies falling, o wait no he just heard it. thats 4 times u lie so stfu.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"thats 4 times u lie so stfu." - Awe, getting mad because I'm taking statements from Barry Jennings interview?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
the guilty demeanor of our trusted government officials is ridiculous. Truthers have every right to question the official story yet people like you dont agree and resort to calling us nut-jobs and crazy people, and compare us to murderers. Go watch some television and entertain yourself, keep saying everything is just dandy that our rights are being taken away ever since 9/11. If you knew anything about how hitler rose to power, u would probably have an idea of what was happening right now...
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
...RJLee company, USGS, and Steven Jones all tested for explosives and found thermate and micro-spheres, in the dust. It's also known that anyone who puts out evidence that disproves the official story of 911 is at risk of losing their job...If you did enough research on Barry Jennings, you would know that's exactly what happened to him. there was no obituary for Jennings and nobody wanted to investigat his death or talk about it. Put the fucking pieces together if u can
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
Idiots like Josh Perkins probably failed reading, comprehending and understanding history.
He probably flunked history class.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Forget it Josh Perkins, you have nothing to offer me as far as evidence is concerned. Barry Jennings isn't a FDNY firefighter and he's not trained to ID explosions as coming from explosives because he's not a bomb technician.
Too many holes in your story pal. Live knowing what I truely know about bombs/explosives. Cause I just might blow your mind with info you don't know.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Documenting the location(s) of victims prior to and after the explosion. Ensuring that victims are examined for bomb component fragments. Autopsies should include full-body x-rays.
No bodies were ever examined to find traces of bomb fragments nor residue. I pity you Josh Perkins, I really do pity you at this moment.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
I think that quote-mined statement of Barry Jennings isn't holding up very good.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
The investigator must ensure that photographic documentation is included in the permanent scene record.This documentation should be completed prior to the removal or disturbance of any items.
There were no photographs taken of these alleged explosives inside WTC7 nor video tapes.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
There was NO written documentation reguarding fidning "explosives" inside WTC7 from any investigators collecting samples from the scene.
Without this written documentation from bomb technicians, Josh Perkins has NOTHING to prove. Sorry pal, but you lose thise case.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Josh Perkins probably doesn't know WTF I'm talking about because he's not a firefighter nor first responder.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
The FDNY NEVER conducted a Scene Walkthrough with any bomb technicians inside WTC7 at the time of the incident.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Only bomb disposal personnel should handle any suspected devices that are located. Take no further action until the devices have been identified or rendered safe.
The FDNY NEVER IDed any "explosive devices" nor "secondary devices" inside WTC7. No record of Barry Jennings saying he heard of bombs/explosives inside WTC7.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
The FDNY NEVER issued this procedure for WTC7:
Request additional resources and personnel (e.g., bomb technicians, building inspectors, representatives from utility companies, such as gas, water, and electric) to mitigate identified hazards.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Upon arrival at the scene, first responders should:
Preserve potentially transient physical evidence (e.g., evidence present on victims, evidence that may be compromised by weather conditions).
But of course none of the FDNY firefighters preserved these "explosives" nor extracted them from WTC7.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Also Barry Jennings NEVER mentioned about seeing trace explosives detectors (e.g., sniffers) and/or detection canines inside WTC7 at the time.
LMAO @ Josh Perkins. Getting mad bro?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
The most common types of explosive/incendiary devices encountered by fire service and law enforcement personnel in the United States are traditionally pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and other improvised explosive/incendiary devices (IEDs).
Looks like none of those items made it into WTC7.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Of the criminal bombing incidents reported during 1993–97, the top three targets—collectively representing approximately 60 percent of the incidents—were residential properties, mailboxes, and vehicles.
Looks like WTC7 nor the Twin Towers were on the list before 9/11. LMAO @ Josh Perkins.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
I'm surprised that the Technical Working Group for Bombing Scene Investigation wasn't present at or near WTC7.
Maybe because WTC7 wasn't CDed.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
So, according to Joshua Perkins, if any explosion is heard, then that means explosives were used?
Lets see here: If an engine suddenly explodes, then it must've been "explosives", right? If a gas tank explodes, it mus've been "explosives", right?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong except a car is much different than a building you retard. buildings dont work like a fucking car.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
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"buildings dont work like a fucking car."
Sure, and rigging WTC7 on the same day is just as retarded as you comparing buildings to cars. WTFG jackass!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Almost 24 hours later and Joshua Perkins hasn't got anything intelligent to say. Figures that brainwashed morons like him can't cope with himself of being a mental nutcase.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol....talking to yourself eh? I'm tried to cope with your arrogance and I still believe 9/11 was an inside job
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong I gotta say im not surprised u would bring up that kid who shot that lady and that little girl. Thats pretty fuking low you would resort to stereotypical shit like that trying to help your argument. The US is killing civilians and children every day so if you believe in stereotypes, I guess every american is a psycho murderer. 9/11 was a false flag, the NWO is very real, and you need to open your eyes buddy and realize that.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins haven't heard from you in a few days. Congratulations you took the final truther step and ran away just as predicted. As predicted you claimed you were not a truther, then spewed out a bunch of truther shit, then had no facts to support, then resorted to calling me sheep and troll, then called names then ran away exactly as a truther would. For someone that is not a "truther" you followed their little handbook exactly as written ahahahah (continued)
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 "then resorted to calling me sheep and troll" stfu you hypocrite, you resorted to the same name-calling and compared me to that kid who shot some people...first you say a back-draft caused that explosion, then you say falling bodies did(WTF?), then you act as if there was no explosion at all and that Barry Jennings was mistaken and forced to say it happened before a twin tower collaped by Avery.... I didn't run away, i walked away because you are damn arrogant...cont.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@12weasel100 ...continued ...and you can't accept Barry Jennings' testimony because it doesn't fit in with the original story...There are hundreds of people saying there were explosions & bombs in the buildings and just because the commission ignored it, doesnt mean you have to.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins (continued) congratulations your journey to the truther side is complete. Your tin foil hat and 911 T Shirt is in the mail you should be receiving them soon.
ahahahhahahah you pathetic pile of shit.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 i already got my 911 truth now t-shirt and i can make my own tin foil hat
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins you already have a 911 truth Tshirt. Odd that someone who claims they are not a truther would be wearing one of those. I guess you lied about that too. And I can accept Jennings testimony. He clearly states he never agreed with any of the shit that you fucking idiots spewed out. And we covered "explosions" loud noises and electrical panels etc "exploding does not have to equal "demo charges" (continued)
12weasel100 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins (continued) besides you fail to logically explain your statements anyway. You fail to logically explain how you think charges were set off but unlike all other controlled demos that fall within secs after charges go off WTC7 (where Jennings was) still stands for over 7hrs. You also fail to logically explain how you think there were "charges in the basement but the collapse clearly begins at the exact point of impact and fires. You fail to prove anything or provide fact. You idiot
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 You don't seem to understand what a controlled demolition is anyway. It has the word "controlled" It means they can control the way they take it down. Jennings was rocked by an explosion that left him to hang because the floor was destroyed beneath his feet. You both act like that never happened and that he just heard a loud bang. which are lies. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to get that through ur head so unless u got something good to say, im done with u.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"You don't seem to understand what a controlled demolition is anyway." - However, the audio captured that day tells it very differently. Plus a CD can be heard up to 1/2 mile away. Noone heard it 1/2 mile away.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins yeah and Jennings clearly stated he did not agree with your bullshit and did not believe the "explosion" was controlled demo. The "explosion" was WTC1 hitting WTC7 (where he was) and as TruthersRAlwaysRight has already explained to your shit filled mind could have been any number of things. Explosion does not equal demo charges you idiot.You still have presented no facts. Just the same old Truther bullshit fantasy story.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 Jennings has also said,more than once, that both towers were still standing when the explosion went off. You are going against what he said when u say that it was the south tower falling. Stop making shit up and listen to the man. watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc&list=FLcTf5FmvjwR2-x9n2eEzQ9g&index=38&feature=plpp_video
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@12weasel100 and i never said i wasn't a truther u lying piece of shit. of course im a truther, because i want the truth of 9/11. Its ridiculous to me that people like you don't even care because our gov. was forced to create a commission 411 days after 9/11 by the family members. if u are actually pleased with that white washed cover-up of an investigation, then maybe u should actually try reading it, and look into what it took to even make it.because it didnt investigate shit
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"our gov. was forced to create a commission 411 days after 9/11 by the family members." - So what? The Waren Commission took place 1 month after JFK got assassinated and there's no evidence to suggest that there were other shooters present because they've found where the lost bullet went. It took Oswald 11 or 12 seconds to pull all 3 shots and it was possible to pull off.
Google: "JFK: The Lost Bullet"
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins (continued) and the NIST report you refer to is approx ten thousand pages of research from hundreds of respected scientists, structural engineers, fire control experts metalologists etc. that I guess to your uneducated mind may appear like shit however when compared to your sources of two pager conspiracy bullshit websites and shitty You Tube vids it seems a little more credible and reliable then shit you are quoting from ahahah you dumbfuck
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 If you people take the fucking time to listen to all the videos of people reporting explosions in the trade center...William Rodriguez reported an explosion in the basement that pushed him upwards. Witnesses reported explosions in the south tower before the plane even hit! But u would rather ignore that because it wouldn't help ur argument now would it...Explosions were heard everywhere that day, yet nist never even tested for explosive material....
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins Rodriguez was in the basement he would not have known when the exact moment the planes hit. You also fail to logically explain how you believe demo charges went off in the basement and not only did the towers stand for an hr instead of immediately collapsing but the collapse started at the point of impact and fire not in the basement. Once again you only prove that you are a fucking idiot.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100
And if there were bombs in the basement, Josh's whole idea about that goes out the window because Willie Rodriguez is still alive. Josh reminds me of that idiot, Brian Good from Screw Loose Change, who flies off the handle when I say the same thing I said about Willie bein alive.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong yeah the josh guy is a dumb ass. He makes statements that are pure lies and just not logical in anyway.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100
I know what you mean. Yeah, it's like he's saying that since Willie Rodriguez heard an explosion that he thinks that it was done by explosives. But then again there's the eror of Josh's "logic", if there was bombs in the basement, Willie would've died as a result. But yet he's still alive and kicking. Same goes for Barry Jennings.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
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TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@12weasel100
"You also fail to logically explain how you believe demo charges went off in the basement" - How can there be charges in the basement when Willie Rodriguez is still alive? Answer that question RTard.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"The US is killing civilians and children every day so if you believe in stereotypes"
But then again, assholes like you would prefer to put a gun or rifle into childrens hands because of the scary U.S. Government you hate so much.
Go fuck yourself Jack.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong i dont believe in children having guns, why would u say that? I believe in the 2nd amendment but i dont think it qualifies for children...don't put words in my mouth Jack.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Why would I say that? Because you're a loon and any loon like you who asks about guns knows what they would do to innocent people who come asking you questions about 9/11.
Sorry, but I'm gonna put words in your mouth cause you simply don't like it. Just like you put words in the witneses mouths when they didn't say anything. Quote-mine much or just sad that you are?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong reply to weasel applies to you
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
LOL, no matter what you claim that Barry Jennings said, his statements still doesn't say that he saw explosives going off.
Keep cherry picking his statement retard. I needed a good laugh at your sheer stupidity.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Explosions can come from explosives and if all other possibilities of how that explosion happened are dis proven then explosives can be put up as a very strong possibility. My sister is a private investigator, i learn everything i can from her and I see that it's very hard for you to put the pieces of 9/11 together. Instead you rely on ur gov. to do that.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
If what you're saying is true, then why hasn't Barry Jennings come forward (before his death) that he also saw bomb squads going into WTC7 prior to it's collapse?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Oh before his death, you don't mean after? (Iol?) Did Barry say he saw a bomb squad go in wtc7. U got a link? Many witnesses said there were bombs on 911 footage, but just because there were no bomb squads, that doesnt mean much to the investigation, thats just a failure to respond. (not saying they did a bad job of responding on 911 so dont swing that shit at me)
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"Did Barry say he saw a bomb squad go in wtc7. U got a link?"
Don't ask me my own question asshole. I asked you first, you answer it.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong ok well from what I know, NO. But like I said, that would just be a failure to respond, it doesnt disprove any theory of bombs being in those buildings. Only video, samples, and testimonial evidence can prove that. all of which, do suggest explosives......
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"it doesnt disprove any theory of bombs being in those buildings"
Dude, I'm a firefighter and my training REQUIRES me to send in the bomb squad for bombs/explosives. Don't fucking go there!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
And you probably lied about your age too. You're not 40, but 34 yrs old.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Of course your name is really Joshua Perkins.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
And every Truther in the U.S. is either on welfare or SSI or both. And where do those funds come from? The U.S. Government and taxpayers of course.
So, how does it feel to get paid for nothing from the Government and taxpayers?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Posh,
Why don't you watch your body building videos and leave 9/11 to the grown ups little boy?
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol i will then ill knock your pussy ass out
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Sure, knock my ass out because you can't stand the truth that you're a brainwashed moron who likes body building videos but doesn't have any weights in his basement at his mothers house because you live on welfare and SSI checks from the Government.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong lol you obviously dont know shit about me other than my names PoshJerkins, + congrats on getting that right
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
"congrats on getting that right"
What exactly? That you live on welfare and SSI and that you live with your parents?!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Very good...well this conversation is fucking pointless so maybe we will run into each other when martial law kicks in. but for now fuck off
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Just let me know when you get back into being a recruiter for the National Guard you idiot.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
maybe you should watch that video you liked again, learn some shit about yourself
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Awe, you don't like me but have to attack a video I favorited because I like satire?
Really weak on your part.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong the satire's on you buddy
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Then again I'm not a 40 yr. old virgin who liks to watch body building videos but doesn't train with them.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
LOL couldn't prdict what I would say but assume that I was gonna say it.
Gotta love that Truther mentality where they think up something after you've said it.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong keep bringing stereotypes to the table instead of standing up to the facts you pussy!
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Keep dodging the issue of you showing that scinetific peer-reviewed journal that could confirm that Barry Jennings "fell" through the "6th floor" inside WTC7.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
I don't care if you're a Smurf or Oompa Loompa color. You're still an idiot.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
Sorry if I hit a nerve, but that's the truth. DEAL WITH IT!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong you think all black people can't swim too? because my black cousin was on the swim team since he was 5.
poshuajerkins 1 month ago
@poshuajerkins
Ok, I see where this is going. Just because you're black means that you want me to be a racist and then use that against me because you want to change the subject. Not working!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 1 month ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Im not even black you retard and i knew u were gonna say something like that
poshuajerkins 1 month ago