Philip Zimbardo- The Lucifer Effect- Part 10

[malkooth]

I love love love how Professor Zimbardo uses "real" language to describe what is bullshit behavior. Bravo Professor.

[PawnBACM]

Outrage doesn't pay the bills so well. What's more, it is easy to become the "enemy" as well. One, especially without affluence, influence, or a significant following, need be prepared to become a martyr, figuratively and possibly literally, to be sacrificed on the altar of "democracy" and "religion". Life is short and kissing the rights people's asses will take a person and their progeny a long ways unless impediments are in place to further a legitimate system.

[carlosmante]

UNCOMFORTABLY NUMB.

[noeau5]

I wish Philip Zimbardo would go further in explaining why there is no "moral outrage" from law students or law professionals when the constitution is being undercut. There was a Bill Moyer's program w/ two legislative experts, but can psychology explain this phenomenon? Is it fear of retribution, or competition from other media? Some kind of group paralysis? Can anyone shed some light on why there was no impeachment movement, etc? Is there some group psychology answer to lack of response?

[HealingVibrations]

People in the highest levels of government that have any bit of a moral compass have tried to get these evil people like Bush and Cheney impeached but Bush and Cheney and Co are not above threatening physical terror to the lives and families of the people that want to impeach them, Also people in the highest levels of government have sold us to the banks and enslaved our society in 1913 when the FED reserve act was passed, that allowed for fiat currency, Most people in government are NWO=OWNED.

[Andromeda680]

@noeau5 i think that people divorce themselves personally and morally from things they feel expected or obligated to do. like, "oh, this is just business, not personal". business transactions require the observer to objectify the situation as well as depersonalize themselves from it, and look at it amorally to be efficient.

why the conscience fails to kick in while in this cold, dutiful mode is the question.

[manthasagittarius]

@noeau5 Zimbardo seems to be maintaining a moderately flexible sliding position between psychological analysis, political commentary, and a bit of policy advocacy. I don't see how he could keep it just to pure social psych theory as applied . . . but I don't think he's in a position to explain the lack of response you mention without a lot of separate analysis, and to remain responsible to his professional stance, he should not slide from explanation to accusation on that issue in any case.

[Dragdamar]

@noeau5 I believe that it is, in part, not affecting them directly so they take no action. It's like this: First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.  Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.