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According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
why educated doctors in this community is making more religious. i met one young doctor with ugly beard working with English people This man dont know how much
other people hate this.These people wont improve.they are concentrating on increasing population.buy benifits.dont want to study.they want women slavery.they can fuck all women.sell drugs. at last everyone will go to heaven.and all others go to hell. why their god shows partiality he is not democratic.its comon sense this is not godly
Islamo facsism is the greatest evil since nazism. They want to take over the world and create a world wide muslim theocracy. The muslims who seek peace, harmony, and liberty are welcome as far as I'm concerned, but the islamo-nazis who wish to commit haneous acts in the name of their religion, will meet open hostility from me.
I don't know if Islam was ever a peaceful religion, but it certainly was not the gigantic cockroach it is today. Islamic golden age truly was a time of scientific, cultural, and other progress. Stupid people interpreted Mongol invasions as wrath of God and fucked up Islam. Islam itself is no worse than other Abrahamic religions (they are all bad).
thx Allah i am muslim and civilised more than many of you! if we will talk about honor killing then remember that islam against it completely but some people are not. And, i am british but originally from Jordan, honor killing also exist in Britain between none muslim, read or listen to news and u will know, the difference they dont call it honor killing.
so plz ppl before u judge read more &find out why so many ppl convert into islam, u cant say they r all stupid, can you?
@SinnFein4ever Please dont be naive, do you truly believe European countries accept immigrants to help them or to protect their human rights?!!!! Open your mind and dont be intolerant. European countries only accept immigrants because they are hard worker and from the statistics most of european (with all honest respect) are unemployed because they like to be home and receive public support... This is the only reason why there are immigrants & if you kick them out your countries will sink down
and if any change is going to take place in the muslim world, it is going to come from muslims themselves, not from some from some frustrated Western intellectuals.. The west's vilification of Islam is not going to lead to any constructive improvement in either society..
Atheists should stop treating religions especially Big religions such as Islam and Christianity as a singular entities. Islam varies widely from place to place, after all religious traditions are part of culture. the general backwardness of muslim countries could be attributed to history, geography and other factors. Concentrating on bashing their religion is not going to improve their condition. social change comes spontaneously from within;
vencentaneous.. islam's beleifs are just as silly as any other religious beleifs, but concentrating the criticism on Islam is not going to get anyone anywhere and it is not going to make the world a better place. Moslems as you said come from diverse backgrounds, however backwards traditions like stoning women to death is not the norm in the Islamic world, it is practiced in only a handfull of muslim countries.
idiot we are in 2011 how are u so dumb to think these coutries will change, for example how du u think France will be Algeria ? or Germany will be Turkey ? how ? paranoiac fool
As an Atheist, I ca't say I am impressed by Sam Harris. The man is an example of a racist Euro centric Atheist. His assessment of Islam lacks any reason or rational thought that would be expected of any educated person. He blames all the backwardness of the Muslim Countries on the Islamic religion and yet, he fails to mention the disastrous policies of his nation (the U.S);
the ways in which these policies are blocking real cultural/economic progress in not just Islamic countries, but the entire developing world. Maybe he should stick to neuro-science and leave the cultural/political debate to atheists who have a real understanding of History and Politics; people like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finklestein.
I ask anyone who takes this video seriously, to check out some videos of finklestein and chomsky on you tube and listen to them carefully before making any judgements.
@rnata86 The argument then goes "Well, they're hateful fucks, but so are we, so party on"... Is that it? I think the idea is to reduce and then eliminate the hypocrisies all over the world. And to say he does not address the hypocrisies of America doesn't take into account that this was only two or three pages out of an entire book.
@rnata86 Sam Harris is not racist: Islam contains many ethnicities. He is not Eurocentric: Many of his beliefs are informed by Eastern philosophy, namely Buddhism. Science was first practiced by Europeans, but that is just a historical accident. What part of his assessment of Islam lacks reason? I'm genuinely curious. Also, the backwardness of Islam is the REASON WHY European nations, and then the U.S., have been able to bully the Muslim countries. Their religion makes them weak.
Don't get it twisted, those assholes in Iran are not Persian, they are Arab loving animals. They have nothing to do with Iran or Persian civilization. There time is coming up. Iran is changing very soon.
Yeah muslims are savages. Fuck them. I will die rather than see them run my country. And I'm not the only one. Many of them will die before they can govern my lands!
You went from one psychotic value system to an even more psychotic system; Islam promotes violence, hatred, fear against everyone who isn't Muslim. I can read the Koran - anyone can and anyone who reads it knows that what I've just said is a mild accusation.
I don't think you have read the koran, and if you have, you need to go back and read it again, because you obviously didn't understand any of it, if thats what you think of islam.
Reading and understanding the koran is as irrelevant as is reading the bible. They are outmoded, outdated, obsolete religious tomes with no more reloevance to a modern world than the view that the earth is flat. The koran ... now in two ply.
I wouldn't say that they were both COMPLETELY irrelevant, just mostly irrelevent. My problem is when people act as though they are quoting the Quran, when to somebody who has actually read it, they are quite cleary not. Now if somebody watches this or reads the comments below, without any real knowledge of Islam, they might start to believe these bullshit lies! And this why i believe the average person is starting to fear and hate Islam. (oh & the terrorism)
The problem lies in the cultural differences regardless of religion. It must be adressed and any concepts that allow the behavior documented in this video must ... end ... now! Tolerance of intolerance is not tolerance at all.
I believe anyone who firmly believes in god is at least mildly deranged. It's called apophenia, seeing connections where there are none. I of course do not believe that "all" muslim couples have 3 or more children so that one day muslims will rule the world, nor does Sam Harris. Nice strawman argument, learn to argue without the use of logical fallacy please.
No strawman argument here, watch the start of the video, thats exactly what he believes, he even shows pictures lol. And people are not deranged because they have faith. Anyway, i think we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this.
Nothing but straw. I've watched the video again and nothing in it says any of the following. "all muslims are deranged", "all muslim couples have 3 or more children so that muslims will rule the world". It's not there. Aside from the funky little joke map at the beginning there's nothing unreasonable in it at all. At this point I can only conclude that you are delusional or baiting me for amusement.
A quote from the book "A letter to a christain nation" written by Sam Harris "MOST MUSLIMS ARE UTTERLY DERANGED BY THEIR RELIGIOUS FAITH". I think you should watch more than just this video on Sam Harris before you side with him.
A quote from sonertb - "So you believe all muslims are deranged?" Note the word ALL where Harris used the word MOST. A clear cut case of strawman argument. Go get a brain. As for proof god doesn't exist, none is necessary as the burden of proof is always on the positive claim. This is just a simple rule of logic. The likelyhood of your god is the same as the likelyhood of any other, so slight it's not worth debating.
i never said i believed in god. And there is no burden of proof for people with faith, they believe in god, you don't, end of. And why the insult, is it because you are angry that you lost our little debate or is it because your safe in your bedroom, either way, its very childish to insult someone over the inter-net.
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson. Start being intelligible. I'll stop ridiculing you.
If I'm close enough, I have no problem with that but what would it accomplish. Are you suggesting you can argue more effectively in person perhaps? Or, are you suggesting some other agenda?
@angelsevil2002 There is no "proof" that god doesn't exists just as there is no "proof" that god DOES exist, proof is for mathematics not science. However, if you'll give me a reasonable definition of "god" I'll demonstrate how likely that particular definition is and I'm betting it's ... not very.
@MrMZaccone and that is why we have to respect the other's belief, because we can't prove whether it is right or wrong, so everybody has the choice... and we should be open minded enough to not follow the stereotypes.
@HighlandsBird No, we don't have to respect beliefs we can't disprove. I can't disprove monsters under my bed and neither can you but respecting that belief or anyone who has it is just silly and childish. Insisting that others respect your beliefs when they are demonstrably unlikely is not only childish and stupid but dangerous to all involved. I don't even respect MY OWN beliefs. What I respect are facts and evidence, examined objectively and supported by the scientific method.
@MrMZaccone Thanks MrMZaccone but i really thought you have found the proof from your last comments. However, i think HighlandBird has given a good comment and i really hope we just respect everyones belief and at the end one day we die and then will know the full truth.
@angelsevil2002 NO! I refuse to respect everyone's beliefs. Do you respect the beliefs of white supremacists, serial killers and child molesters? I really hope not.
@sonertb Most Muslims ARE deranged by their religious faith. To be a good Muslim, you have to believe in a God (strike one), that God chose to reveal himself to one Arab tyrant in the 7th century (strike two), that the Creator of the universe cares whether or not you eat pork or drink wine (strike three), that homosexuality and extramarital sex are evil - and may warrant the death penalty (strike four), ... I could go on and on.
And don't forget that to a good Muslim, women are abominations (strike five).
Which is why oppresion of females, assault, torture/rape (same thing), female-slavery, and female-gential-mutilation are all "pleasing to Allah".
And that Jews are "Children of Satan" (strike six) who should all be killed, and that Christians are "infidels" (strike seven) but should at least be offered that chance to convert, before being killed.
In addition, belief in anything without evidence (as faith in god IS) is always cause to question the sanity of the individual ... period. Only on religious subjects is this standard lax and is it so without any good reason.
You don't have any proof that God does'nt exist. (I assume you don't anyway) Is it not the same then, for someone who believes whole heartedly that there is no god?
@sonertb True, one cannot prove there is no God. But, that doesn't help you, because you can't prove that unicorns don't exist. You can't prove that there is no teapot orbiting Jupiter. There are an infinite number of things which cannot be proven not to exist.
@sonertb The penalty for being a homosexual in Islam is stoning, true or false? The penalty for adultery is stoning for the married person and flogging for the unmarried person, true or false? The penalty for insulting Muhammad is death, true or false? Let's stop arguing about what's in the Quran and just answer those questions.
@Vincentaneous yes it is death and why not? r u gonna tell me about human rights! we all know there r no human right nor dimocracy in the whole world. so, plz talk sensibly, use ur mind and then look at ur country and the troubles created by drunken ppl and by those who cheat on their partnners.
@angelsevil2002 It is a bad idea to stone homosexuals for a variety of reasons. One is that homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Another is that people do not choose to be homosexuals. A person's sexual preference is determined either in the womb or early in childhood. Also, it is true that human rights are just ideas and there are no true democracies in the world. That, however, doesn't make stoning a good idea.
@Vincentaneous to stone homosexuals to death hasn't come from Islam, it has always been a cultural issue, and not just in Musilm countries, but everywhere... in the mid 20th century they used to do that in the US for example... watch the film The Brokeback Mountain...
@HighlandsBird Not all persecution of Jews was committed by the Nazis. French, English, and Spanish kings persecuted Jews all through the Middle Ages. The Romans, of course, attacked and scattered the Jewish people. Jews are targets of hatred in America today. Now, does that excuse what Hitler did? Of course not. So, saying that stoning homosexuals pre-dates Islam and is done by others does not let Islam off the hook for condemning and prescribing brutal punishments for homosexuality.
Most moslems have anal sex with other men but because of their talent for self-deception, they are able to rationalize their homosexual activities just like they rationalize every other tenant of their so-called religion, just as Mohammed, the schitzophrenic, child molesting, gay,, and delusioned intellectual light weight handed down his directives between anal activities with any arab man and his loss of power.
@sonertb: To embrace your Hitler analogy, he was only able to come to power because most Germans had some irrational, hateful beliefs about Jews, and were pre-disposed to blame them for all Germany's problems. They never considered killing Jews themselves, and had to be lied to about the existence of concentration camps, but their moderate anti-Semitism left them with no logical argument against extreme anti-Semitism. With religion its the same - terrorists are the true believers.
@sonertb: Mr. Harris is not suggesting that all Muslims are evil. He's suggesting that most of them are good people trapped in an evil system. 90% of Muslims are perfectly nice folks, but they call 'sacred' an ancient fabrication of a book that reads 'Kill the Accursed Infidel' in every chapter. Then , when someone takes them at their word and starts killing the infidel, they act surprised, and get offended if anyone points out the connection. Moderate religion makes extremism possible.
This rubbish video reminds me of the same crap the KKK used to put out. Sam, get your ignorant facts straight before putting together this inciting load of nonsense. There's a reason why a fifth of the globe's population worships Islam. This drivel of yours is conceived out of nothing but fear and hate of what you don't know....or simply what you see in the skewed media you and your types follow. Get the facts straight and get a life you idiot....Grand Master Harris
@aharbuk Sam Harris is attacking Islam because of the following beliefs: 1) Allah exists. 2) Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. 3) The Quran was dictated word for word by Allah. 4) Insulting Muhammad or the Quran should be punished. 5) Homosexuals should be stoned. 6) Adulterers should be stoned. Which one of those is false? Those are some of the ideas Sam Harris is attacking.
Yeah sure fosfor bombs - another muslim propoganda, if Israel wanted it would already wipe out any arabs living in it (believe me they have enought weapons to do it), yet israelis are not savages like you muslims.
All you scum crying about how US and Israel are terrorists yet doing everything to flee your muslim countries to live in these "terrorist states". Truth is - these are the only countries who have enought guts to oppose the islamists.
Sure, after Turks will finish killing all kurds. Its Turkey who buys military systems from Israel not versa vice.LMAO
"Who is fleeing to live in Israel?" Thousands of Pals who request Israeli citizenship for different rasons, muslims who claim to be refugees from northen Africa, etc.
Fifth population worships Islam... well look where and how this "fifth" live
Turks dont but military systems from Israel, they buy them from the same people the israelis do, the USA. And Turks aint half as bad to the Kurds as the israelis are to the palestinians, plus its a completely different situation! And what was the final point you tried to make, i couldnt understand it.
Im not muslim, i just don't like the way that people blame ALL of islam, because of afew evil people. We don't remember Hitler for bein a evil CHRISTAIN that wanted to kill all the jews! But according to Sam Harris, every evil muslim is evil because they are Muslim, was Hitler evil because he was christain?
@sonertb Muslims are not evil, but there are evil ideas in Islam. If a Muslim supports the stoning of homosexuals or adulterers, then they are evil. If a Muslim supports the punishment of people who insult Muhammad or burn Qurans, then they are evil. It depends on the individual. Sam Harris is criticizing the barbaric policies put in place by Muhammad.
@Vincentaneous what would u say if i insult u and all ur beloved ones espicially ur partner and kids??? im sure u will forgive me and u will give me a candy too, aren't you? your discussion is so weak and people dont use it now adays, talk about something not everyone knows including those who are converting into islam everyday
@angelsevil2002 If you insulted my loved ones I would laugh because I don't even know you. I would not get angry because I am not a child. Also, the fastest growing religion in the world is secular humanism - that is, no religion at all. It is true that Islam is growing faster than other religions, mainly due to birth rate. However, as more Muslims are exposed to the comforts of a free society, each generation more and more of their children will turn away from Islam.
The three monotheisms are an abomination and a blight on humanity. Islam, at the moment, is a true perversion of the human spirit and needs to be eliminated from the planet for our good and the good of the planet.
You're obviously a homosexual and a general freak, recalling the savagery of ancient Greece & Rome, Babylon and Sodom & Gomorrah. Whatever you are, a real perversion of what a human being really is, Islam will not be destroyed. Europe, with its history past and present, of evil, is in the age of its decline and eventual extinction.
You have a horrible time with logic. You disagree with leland61 so you call him/her a homosexual and a freak? You are ridiculous and need to find some common interests on youtube instead of rambling on.
If u think I'm going to sit here & take insults from fools / devils, silent, uv got something to think about. I cam here to comment. If folks want to act like savages, visigoths and devils, I will take them on. IF they want dialouge, I'm all for it. IF u can't accept this, let's move on. I'M moving on.
What exactly is "savage" about a youtube comment. Dialogue is debate you are not debating you are randomly insulting people. As far as the apes you can think what you will but it is true. We are all the same there is no real basis for race. Race is entirely a socialization concept. So me and you are of the same race the human race. Somehow I doubt you ever move on.
An OBJECTIVE view of BenFrank & Opiates comments will have u understand why I took exception to them. Of course, we're human beings, but again I say, I KNOW my people r from Africa, but NOT from apes. That's a myth from white people, so called "evolution". REALLY, this has NOTHING to do w/the discussion of Islam. It is a DIVERSION, meant to be an insult. Blacks r from Africa, whites r from Europe. Whites today in particular, r trying to export homosexual culture to Africa & S.America.
This is a good video, but then again it doesn't mention any proof from its own scriptures that islam is really like this. Wonderful video anyway, it exposed how some muslims act, but again it didnt mention any proof from Islam's scripture to prove that this is the ideology of all muslims. Would 100% agree with u if there were proofs. But i cant
Four witnesses are required because despite marrying a child of six and taking her to his bed at the age of nine Muhammad could not be certain that his wife was faithful to him alone. When Aisha was accused of being unfaithful to him he had a convenient revelation of her innocence and decreed that four reliable witnesses are required before such accusations are ever to be believed. This is jurisprudence on the basis of an old man's sexual inadequacy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
U have no basis 4 such an assertion, which is driven, simply by an anti-islamic spirit, than any sense of truth. even IF u were correct, ayah were revealed at times, due to situations in the prophet's life. The fact remains that 4 the believers, 4 witnesses is the standard 4 such a crime,which makes it very hard to enforce, which clearly refutes the notion of the husband & 2 friends; that's not Quran. THAT's the point of my comment, so if u want to make assumptions, that's your choice.
If anybody found the four witness rule satisfied natural justice they could freely copy it. Do I have to point at to you that nobody who isn't a Muslim has ever taken any notice of this ruling? That's because it does not promote natural justice, it is perverse and arbitrary. The only function this ruling ever served was to stop Muhammad appearing as a victim of adultery, to spare a tyrant's blushes.
Adultery is not a crime in civilized countries, but fucking children is.
Devil. I'm not going to go back and forth in qualifying to you what civilized is. AIDS, homosexuality, beastiality, imperialism. Since you want to continue to show yourself as a rebellious, vulgar devil, to you be your way and to me, mine. You want to use that cheap, silly conjecture that Allah's command that 4 witnesses are needed to prove illegal sex, then so be it. But you certainly won't waste my time. I wanted to dialouge, you wanted to curse. I will not lower myself. Peace.
"Fucking" used fewer characters than having sex with, and it does more pointedly. It was not revelling in cursing. Muhammad had sex with a nine year old child. That is not something we could ever accept as moral behaviour today. It is not guaranteed to be abusive and mentally and physically damaging but it is one of those actions which shows such recklessness as to the consequences that we choose to forbid it in all circumstances, especially for role models, the same as driving while drunk.
Devil. I'm not going to get into prattle about standards today vs. yesterday. Presuming this account is true (and there are reasons to believe the hadis r inaccurate about Aisha's age), as u said, TODAY's standards. In the MEANTIME, today's "Standards" encourage homosexuality, illicit sex and infanticide, to name a few. Drinking is forbidden in Islam. Again, if u insist on responding like a rebellious devil, refrain from commenting. I'm just not in the mood for this foolishness.
I'm calling it the way you project it. You are an arrogant, vulgar and rebellious devil. I will do the best I can to live a clean, Islamic life anywhere I choose to, and you damn well aren't going to make me move. That being said, there are some that have taken the position to move to "Islamic" countries.
Rebellious? One can only rebel against a genuine and legitimate authority. Resisting tyranny is not a vice or even a virtue, it is a duty, and there is no greater despotism than the tyranny of man-made gods. Nothing is more arrogant than claiming that your imaginary friend created the whole universe and is in charge of all aspects reality. It is religion which is the usurping tyrant and resisting such tyrants is the noblest thing a man could ever do. If your god existed it would even be brave.
Some yrs ago, I read a very good commentary on the age of Aisha at the time of her marriage. But 1st, let me state, IF she was 9 at consummation, understanding, at that time in history, it was no big deal, as NO scripture spoke of an age of consent, I'm not going to trash it. It was what it was. Anyway, the piece I read made some pts. that she was more like 15-18. 2nd, hadith is NOT Qur'an & it NOT holy. Even IF there are 20 "hadis", it doesn't mean a thing. Bukari & Muslim r not infallible.
I agree, sex with 9 year old girls was normal at the time. However Muhammad's actions were supposed to be specifically ordained by Allah, and his actions to be copied by all men for all time.
A medical study in the USA showed that girls under the age of 14 are TWICE as likely to experience miscarriages. If Allah wanted men to impregnate young girls then why make them miscarry?
U guys r really something. None of us can speak to the physiological conditions back then. I also know that ultimately, such a decision is made w/the father's approval. At the end of the day, whatever Aisha's age was, she was one of the Mothers of the Believers, and I choose to focus more on THAT & her scholarship, than the stumbling blocks u & others wish to place. Anyways, I said all I needed to on the subject. U as a disbeliever, unless Allah wills, r simply going to maintain ur position.
I'm not here to qualify what you "wanted" to be true. I provided the best understanding I could. I can see through ur supposed "conclusions" which r not based on sound logic. U speak more to the mores' of America, as IF its' the moral compass. Child molestation, legally, changes from society. IF Aisha was indeed 9, then it was ok for that society. Again, the Bible doesn't specify an age of consent. I also explained that research exists, to challenge this assertion. U disbelieve and want to
justify it. That's ur business. Regarding ur last pt, babies die all the time, for reasons other than mothers being young. I can't speak to the shape & development females were in during those days & neither can u. America & its view, is central to ur "arguments"; it's not, for me. If u choose to use the example of Aisha, who at the end of the day, Muslims respect as a mother of the believers, that's ur business. I know in history, there r more significant things about her than what u want to
continue to focus on. We are in the critical days, of as Jesus pointed out, the "wheat vs. the tare". Today, Muslims find ourselves under the most intense scrutiny since the Hijrah. But this time, the war is more along the line of "logic", which really is the most powerful, in terms of long term impact. I do know that an outright, satanic, homosexual, beastial & debaucherous movement is behind this. Many will be deceived, for as Jesus reportedly said, "even the very elect will be deceived".
Believe me, this is an underlying and motivating issue in your entire argument vs. Islam. At this point, I tire of the consistent bantering w/you. You pick & choose what u consider evil, ignoring scripture. You're quick to point out a "stat" regarding miscarriages for <14 age females, yet ignore the fact the the killer disease AIDS is most prevalent amongst homosexuals. Homosexuality is evil in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and traditional Africa. The anus is not a sex organ.
Homosexuals fuck each other with consent, if they die as a result that's their own choice. People who fuck little girls are performing an act on someone too young to consent.
And yes, I do quote a statistic. This is based on the results of medical research in the USA and conclusively proves that little girls are less capable of carrying a baby to full term
So Allah send Muhammad as a perfect example, made him fuck a 9 year old, and then ALSO made little girls miscarry more often. Thanks Allah!
I see the wisdom of not engaging in debates w/anyone who defends sodomy; it's a waste of time to try to appeal to /such a sick mind. I reject u and ur over the top criticisms of the Holy Prophet, plus ur distorted & disingenuous "concern" for young females. I know that at the end of the day, u suffer from the same devil-mind as ur cohorts. That's why ur so vulgar. U defend anal "sex", which God CONDEMNS, under some guise of "consent". Already gave us some possible explanations regarding Aisha.
Who the hell are you to say what a god does or doesn't condemn? Can YOU speak for any deity? Oh right, I didn't think so. You're just another dumb chimp-like ape, just like anybody else. So stop thinking you know what a deity's opinion is.
Stick to your opium and leave me alone. I will state my position, no matter what devil says. I'M a 'chimp-like' ape? One say, STUDY blacks vs. apes & whites vs. apes, and you'll be shocked to see who is closer to the ape. Allah says the very sins that Europe & America want to export to the world are abominations. I do not speak of myself. I 'm not speaking for God; that would be like being on opium.
Humans and apes evolved from the same common ancestor. What you camped out on this page. Do you think you are helping anything by calling everyone the devil?
It's too bad human beings are also an ape species. Know your shit before you spout off. Again, you go, "Allah says," how the hell do YOU know what any deity says, if it indeed exists? So you DO think you can speak for a god despite claiming otherwise. Use your brain for once. And finally, what the hell does opium have to do with anything? You don't have an argument so you resort to an ad hominem attack just like the rest of the muzmuppets. So typical you are.
I just used your moniker, understanding that with satanic, insane "logic" such as yours, you must be on opium. You damn sure aren't sober! Don't have an argument? The reason you and your fellow savages are coming off with vulgarity and out-of-mind remark, is BECAUSE I have an argument.
So get behind me SATAN and bother me NO MORE! I will no longer entertain ur posts. Allah says, "to you be your way & to me, mine". I've got too much important work to do, trying to be a good Muslim, to have u & other hypocrites and devils, try to take me from that.
So anyone who disagrees with you is either a devil or satan himself? That's a very convenient way of getting people not to look into the basis of their beliefs, don't you think?
What would you think if every time you tried to convince a polytheist into believing there is only ONE God he said "You are just Satan tricking me"? You'd think he was pretty closed minded wouldn't you?
Dear devil. What you show is without a doubt, there IS a devil. And I guess you're a loving *@()#@) ? Anyways, are these the jewels of wisdom from you, SNAKE-TAN?
one of the worst parts of religion (and certainly the most tiresome) is that it gives exceptionally stupid people the false impression that they know anything about anything.
Outside of DNA, it is very difficult to prove rape, and even then, in absence of evidence of trauma, it could very well be consensual, as in the case of Tyson. While I obviously sympathize w/the victim, the rights of the accused must be protected as well. To be honest, as Qur'an 24:2 speaks directly to consensual illegal sex & it doesn't speak specifically to rape, the scholars should examine this, going forward. But in all, there is NOTHING in Islam that calls for the barbaric killing of a rape
victim. IF anything, given the scenario, the worse 1 could accuse her of is slander, which would call for lashes. Obviously, this scenario is a tough one, because in this case, the accused, if guilty, does get away w/the crime, while on earth. Unless he repents, he WILL be dealt with in the hereafter; don't u worry. Anyways, I don't know where u get the 4x testimony. Allah says 4 [outside] witnesses for zina. Again, there's no Islamic precedent 4 killing the victim. I'll leave it at that.
Just some constructive criticism on the video from an interested watcher:
I loved your video content, but to be honest, the audio along with all the written video was somewhat busy. It's hard for the average person to read one thing and listen to another! You would get your message across much more strongly if you were verbally elaborating what was written, or complementing what you were saying with only photos instead of text, I think.
I agree. That still doesn't require 'evil' to exist in order to be true, though. Exapnding your example, let's assume that the robbery is motivated by poverty. One may feel inclined to a number of options: get more work, borrow money, commit armed robbery etc.. It doesn't matter what options you consider, it's the action that counts. 'Good' & 'evil' are subjective values but the concept of 'minimisation of harm' derives from objective thinking.
The part where the text is questioning the power of God because evil exists is missing one element. Man cannot know what is good and what is evil if the latter does not exist. Evil is necessary in the world to tell the difference between a choice of actions. So the existence of evil in the world is not a contradiction to God's power but simply a necessity for us to have free will and choice.
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tigersforchrist 1 month ago
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According to prominent Jewish rabbis in Israel and the U.S., Talmudic Orthodox Judaism condones blowing a elderly man out of a wheelchair with explosives launched from helicopter warship missiles (as in the case of Israel's assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin on 3-22-04).
In which forum shall we look to find you wringing your hands over this particularly repulsive spectacle of Jewish extremism, Sam??? Ye hypocrites!
djs259 3 months ago
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Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
djs259 3 months ago
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i take my moral science and atheism with less bigotry and hubris. and less milk in my coffee.
waterspindle 5 months ago
why educated doctors in this community is making more religious. i met one young doctor with ugly beard working with English people This man dont know how much
other people hate this.These people wont improve.they are concentrating on increasing population.buy benifits.dont want to study.they want women slavery.they can fuck all women.sell drugs. at last everyone will go to heaven.and all others go to hell. why their god shows partiality he is not democratic.its comon sense this is not godly
sijoabey 5 months ago
Islamo facsism is the greatest evil since nazism. They want to take over the world and create a world wide muslim theocracy. The muslims who seek peace, harmony, and liberty are welcome as far as I'm concerned, but the islamo-nazis who wish to commit haneous acts in the name of their religion, will meet open hostility from me.
xtremejohnny69 8 months ago
I don't know if Islam was ever a peaceful religion, but it certainly was not the gigantic cockroach it is today. Islamic golden age truly was a time of scientific, cultural, and other progress. Stupid people interpreted Mongol invasions as wrath of God and fucked up Islam. Islam itself is no worse than other Abrahamic religions (they are all bad).
7lllll 9 months ago
thx Allah i am muslim and civilised more than many of you! if we will talk about honor killing then remember that islam against it completely but some people are not. And, i am british but originally from Jordan, honor killing also exist in Britain between none muslim, read or listen to news and u will know, the difference they dont call it honor killing.
so plz ppl before u judge read more &find out why so many ppl convert into islam, u cant say they r all stupid, can you?
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
They need to be kept isolated from the civilized world.
They need to be kept contained to the Middle-East and parts of Africa.
They should be banned from immigrating to other countries, and those who are there illegally should be returned to their country of orrigion.
Then the only problem left, would be what to do about the breeding rate among those Muslims left in the Western World.
I'm an Atheist, but I don't delude myself about the idea of them becoming civilized any time soon.
SinnFein4ever 11 months ago
@SinnFein4ever wow! what a democratic position of the representer of the Western World which cares about human rights so much!
HighlandsBird 9 months ago
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angelsevil2002 9 months ago
@SinnFein4ever Please dont be naive, do you truly believe European countries accept immigrants to help them or to protect their human rights?!!!! Open your mind and dont be intolerant. European countries only accept immigrants because they are hard worker and from the statistics most of european (with all honest respect) are unemployed because they like to be home and receive public support... This is the only reason why there are immigrants & if you kick them out your countries will sink down
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
and if any change is going to take place in the muslim world, it is going to come from muslims themselves, not from some from some frustrated Western intellectuals.. The west's vilification of Islam is not going to lead to any constructive improvement in either society..
rnata86 1 year ago
@rnata86
Well. This problem is not meant to be resolved. On the contrary.
The main goal is to keep muslim hands tied as long as possible.
The "peace process" might last another 300 hundred years and the
last surviving muslim will turn out to be a Jew.
MeAynoor 1 year ago
Atheists should stop treating religions especially Big religions such as Islam and Christianity as a singular entities. Islam varies widely from place to place, after all religious traditions are part of culture. the general backwardness of muslim countries could be attributed to history, geography and other factors. Concentrating on bashing their religion is not going to improve their condition. social change comes spontaneously from within;
rnata86 1 year ago
vencentaneous.. islam's beleifs are just as silly as any other religious beleifs, but concentrating the criticism on Islam is not going to get anyone anywhere and it is not going to make the world a better place. Moslems as you said come from diverse backgrounds, however backwards traditions like stoning women to death is not the norm in the Islamic world, it is practiced in only a handfull of muslim countries.
rnata86 1 year ago
racist video :)
claybe 1 year ago
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I agree with David Hume
claybe 1 year ago
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idiot we are in 2011 how are u so dumb to think these coutries will change, for example how du u think France will be Algeria ? or Germany will be Turkey ? how ? paranoiac fool
claybe 1 year ago
As an Atheist, I ca't say I am impressed by Sam Harris. The man is an example of a racist Euro centric Atheist. His assessment of Islam lacks any reason or rational thought that would be expected of any educated person. He blames all the backwardness of the Muslim Countries on the Islamic religion and yet, he fails to mention the disastrous policies of his nation (the U.S);
rnata86 1 year ago
the ways in which these policies are blocking real cultural/economic progress in not just Islamic countries, but the entire developing world. Maybe he should stick to neuro-science and leave the cultural/political debate to atheists who have a real understanding of History and Politics; people like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finklestein.
rnata86 1 year ago
I ask anyone who takes this video seriously, to check out some videos of finklestein and chomsky on you tube and listen to them carefully before making any judgements.
rnata86 1 year ago
@rnata86 The argument then goes "Well, they're hateful fucks, but so are we, so party on"... Is that it? I think the idea is to reduce and then eliminate the hypocrisies all over the world. And to say he does not address the hypocrisies of America doesn't take into account that this was only two or three pages out of an entire book.
bosatsu76 1 year ago
@rnata86 Sam Harris is not racist: Islam contains many ethnicities. He is not Eurocentric: Many of his beliefs are informed by Eastern philosophy, namely Buddhism. Science was first practiced by Europeans, but that is just a historical accident. What part of his assessment of Islam lacks reason? I'm genuinely curious. Also, the backwardness of Islam is the REASON WHY European nations, and then the U.S., have been able to bully the Muslim countries. Their religion makes them weak.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
Don't get it twisted, those assholes in Iran are not Persian, they are Arab loving animals. They have nothing to do with Iran or Persian civilization. There time is coming up. Iran is changing very soon.
Cormega006 1 year ago
What relevance does an illiterate camel riding war-lord of centuries ago have to a thinking person today?
Of great relevance for the thoughtful, are to be murdered in the name of this idiot.
FlgOff044038 1 year ago 17
Yeah muslims are savages. Fuck them. I will die rather than see them run my country. And I'm not the only one. Many of them will die before they can govern my lands!
drydust999 1 year ago
I think you will find that David Hume was a Scottish philosopher, not an English philosopher...
PhiloTheSceptic 1 year ago
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@PhiloTheSceptic He wrote in English mon, 'e wer a sassanach wid oot doot!
FlgOff044038 1 year ago
vote bnp
GWR4079 1 year ago
this video is shit, almost everything he says is wrong.
world20010 2 years ago
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@world20010 As in ... [give one example]?
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
The queen of Morocco is trying to get women's rights in her country.
killCrsiller45 2 years ago 2
Fuck all you Christians! I was born a white methodist in small town Ohio, and I converted because the whole myth about Jesus was making me sick!
EleventhSquadQuincy1 2 years ago
You went from one psychotic value system to an even more psychotic system; Islam promotes violence, hatred, fear against everyone who isn't Muslim. I can read the Koran - anyone can and anyone who reads it knows that what I've just said is a mild accusation.
leland61 2 years ago
I don't think you have read the koran, and if you have, you need to go back and read it again, because you obviously didn't understand any of it, if thats what you think of islam.
sonertb 2 years ago
Reading and understanding the koran is as irrelevant as is reading the bible. They are outmoded, outdated, obsolete religious tomes with no more reloevance to a modern world than the view that the earth is flat. The koran ... now in two ply.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
I wouldn't say that they were both COMPLETELY irrelevant, just mostly irrelevent. My problem is when people act as though they are quoting the Quran, when to somebody who has actually read it, they are quite cleary not. Now if somebody watches this or reads the comments below, without any real knowledge of Islam, they might start to believe these bullshit lies! And this why i believe the average person is starting to fear and hate Islam. (oh & the terrorism)
sonertb 1 year ago
The problem lies in the cultural differences regardless of religion. It must be adressed and any concepts that allow the behavior documented in this video must ... end ... now! Tolerance of intolerance is not tolerance at all.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
Are you suggesting that what sam harris is saying is fact?
sonertb 1 year ago
Read up on the incidents and trends that are cited in the video. Make your own judgement of course, but in general the case Harris makes is accurate.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
So you believe all muslims are deranged? And that all muslim couples have 3 or more children, so that one day muslims will rule the world?
sonertb 1 year ago
I believe anyone who firmly believes in god is at least mildly deranged. It's called apophenia, seeing connections where there are none. I of course do not believe that "all" muslim couples have 3 or more children so that one day muslims will rule the world, nor does Sam Harris. Nice strawman argument, learn to argue without the use of logical fallacy please.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
No strawman argument here, watch the start of the video, thats exactly what he believes, he even shows pictures lol. And people are not deranged because they have faith. Anyway, i think we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this.
sonertb 1 year ago
Nothing but straw. I've watched the video again and nothing in it says any of the following. "all muslims are deranged", "all muslim couples have 3 or more children so that muslims will rule the world". It's not there. Aside from the funky little joke map at the beginning there's nothing unreasonable in it at all. At this point I can only conclude that you are delusional or baiting me for amusement.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
A quote from the book "A letter to a christain nation" written by Sam Harris "MOST MUSLIMS ARE UTTERLY DERANGED BY THEIR RELIGIOUS FAITH". I think you should watch more than just this video on Sam Harris before you side with him.
sonertb 1 year ago
A quote from sonertb - "So you believe all muslims are deranged?" Note the word ALL where Harris used the word MOST. A clear cut case of strawman argument. Go get a brain. As for proof god doesn't exist, none is necessary as the burden of proof is always on the positive claim. This is just a simple rule of logic. The likelyhood of your god is the same as the likelyhood of any other, so slight it's not worth debating.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago 6
i never said i believed in god. And there is no burden of proof for people with faith, they believe in god, you don't, end of. And why the insult, is it because you are angry that you lost our little debate or is it because your safe in your bedroom, either way, its very childish to insult someone over the inter-net.
sonertb 1 year ago
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson. Start being intelligible. I'll stop ridiculing you.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
Are you in the UK?
sonertb 1 year ago
I don't see that it's any of your business. Do you consider it relevant?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
Well you wanna insult and "ridicule" me, i thought you might wanna do it to my face, like a man.
sonertb 1 year ago
If I'm close enough, I have no problem with that but what would it accomplish. Are you suggesting you can argue more effectively in person perhaps? Or, are you suggesting some other agenda?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
North London.
sonertb 1 year ago
Western Pennsylvania. My last question stands (not surprisingly) unanswered.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone He wants to fight.
SDub817 1 year ago
@SDub817 I thought he might but he soesn't have the balls to say it. Besides, he wouldn't enjoy it, I cheat.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@SDub817 He wrote in English mon, 'e wer a sassanach wid oot doot!
FlgOff044038 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone Would you please help us and tell us the proof that god doesnt exist?
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
@angelsevil2002 There is no "proof" that god doesn't exists just as there is no "proof" that god DOES exist, proof is for mathematics not science. However, if you'll give me a reasonable definition of "god" I'll demonstrate how likely that particular definition is and I'm betting it's ... not very.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone and that is why we have to respect the other's belief, because we can't prove whether it is right or wrong, so everybody has the choice... and we should be open minded enough to not follow the stereotypes.
HighlandsBird 9 months ago
@HighlandsBird No, we don't have to respect beliefs we can't disprove. I can't disprove monsters under my bed and neither can you but respecting that belief or anyone who has it is just silly and childish. Insisting that others respect your beliefs when they are demonstrably unlikely is not only childish and stupid but dangerous to all involved. I don't even respect MY OWN beliefs. What I respect are facts and evidence, examined objectively and supported by the scientific method.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@HighlandsBird "Beliefs" are an inherently a closed-minded process.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone Thanks MrMZaccone but i really thought you have found the proof from your last comments. However, i think HighlandBird has given a good comment and i really hope we just respect everyones belief and at the end one day we die and then will know the full truth.
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
@angelsevil2002 NO! I refuse to respect everyone's beliefs. Do you respect the beliefs of white supremacists, serial killers and child molesters? I really hope not.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago 4
@sonertb Most Muslims ARE deranged by their religious faith. To be a good Muslim, you have to believe in a God (strike one), that God chose to reveal himself to one Arab tyrant in the 7th century (strike two), that the Creator of the universe cares whether or not you eat pork or drink wine (strike three), that homosexuality and extramarital sex are evil - and may warrant the death penalty (strike four), ... I could go on and on.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@Vincentaneous
And don't forget that to a good Muslim, women are abominations (strike five).
Which is why oppresion of females, assault, torture/rape (same thing), female-slavery, and female-gential-mutilation are all "pleasing to Allah".
And that Jews are "Children of Satan" (strike six) who should all be killed, and that Christians are "infidels" (strike seven) but should at least be offered that chance to convert, before being killed.
and that....
(I could go on, too ;)
SinnFein4ever 11 months ago
In addition, belief in anything without evidence (as faith in god IS) is always cause to question the sanity of the individual ... period. Only on religious subjects is this standard lax and is it so without any good reason.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
You don't have any proof that God does'nt exist. (I assume you don't anyway) Is it not the same then, for someone who believes whole heartedly that there is no god?
sonertb 1 year ago
@sonertb True, one cannot prove there is no God. But, that doesn't help you, because you can't prove that unicorns don't exist. You can't prove that there is no teapot orbiting Jupiter. There are an infinite number of things which cannot be proven not to exist.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@sonertb The penalty for being a homosexual in Islam is stoning, true or false? The penalty for adultery is stoning for the married person and flogging for the unmarried person, true or false? The penalty for insulting Muhammad is death, true or false? Let's stop arguing about what's in the Quran and just answer those questions.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@Vincentaneous yes it is death and why not? r u gonna tell me about human rights! we all know there r no human right nor dimocracy in the whole world. so, plz talk sensibly, use ur mind and then look at ur country and the troubles created by drunken ppl and by those who cheat on their partnners.
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
@angelsevil2002 It is a bad idea to stone homosexuals for a variety of reasons. One is that homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Another is that people do not choose to be homosexuals. A person's sexual preference is determined either in the womb or early in childhood. Also, it is true that human rights are just ideas and there are no true democracies in the world. That, however, doesn't make stoning a good idea.
Vincentaneous 9 months ago
@Vincentaneous to stone homosexuals to death hasn't come from Islam, it has always been a cultural issue, and not just in Musilm countries, but everywhere... in the mid 20th century they used to do that in the US for example... watch the film The Brokeback Mountain...
HighlandsBird 9 months ago
@HighlandsBird Not all persecution of Jews was committed by the Nazis. French, English, and Spanish kings persecuted Jews all through the Middle Ages. The Romans, of course, attacked and scattered the Jewish people. Jews are targets of hatred in America today. Now, does that excuse what Hitler did? Of course not. So, saying that stoning homosexuals pre-dates Islam and is done by others does not let Islam off the hook for condemning and prescribing brutal punishments for homosexuality.
Vincentaneous 9 months ago
@EleventhSquadQuincy1 - Sam Harris is an atheist not a christian.
mat4mckay 1 year ago
How u like me now mohamadens?
Islam is great if you like genital mutilation, self-loathing HOMOSEXUALS, and "rules" handed down from a certifiably insane limp dick
christiansmolnar 2 years ago
Islam is a belated joke.
Most moslems have anal sex with other men but because of their talent for self-deception, they are able to rationalize their homosexual activities just like they rationalize every other tenant of their so-called religion, just as Mohammed, the schitzophrenic, child molesting, gay,, and delusioned intellectual light weight handed down his directives between anal activities with any arab man and his loss of power.
christiansmolnar 2 years ago
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b11Medz 2 years ago
@sonertb: To embrace your Hitler analogy, he was only able to come to power because most Germans had some irrational, hateful beliefs about Jews, and were pre-disposed to blame them for all Germany's problems. They never considered killing Jews themselves, and had to be lied to about the existence of concentration camps, but their moderate anti-Semitism left them with no logical argument against extreme anti-Semitism. With religion its the same - terrorists are the true believers.
bcgonynor 2 years ago
@sonertb: Mr. Harris is not suggesting that all Muslims are evil. He's suggesting that most of them are good people trapped in an evil system. 90% of Muslims are perfectly nice folks, but they call 'sacred' an ancient fabrication of a book that reads 'Kill the Accursed Infidel' in every chapter. Then , when someone takes them at their word and starts killing the infidel, they act surprised, and get offended if anyone points out the connection. Moderate religion makes extremism possible.
bcgonynor 2 years ago
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If God is that evil, why does he allow you to breath, eath, live.
This is nothing more than an panic attack from an atheist.
samsun1975 2 years ago
This rubbish video reminds me of the same crap the KKK used to put out. Sam, get your ignorant facts straight before putting together this inciting load of nonsense. There's a reason why a fifth of the globe's population worships Islam. This drivel of yours is conceived out of nothing but fear and hate of what you don't know....or simply what you see in the skewed media you and your types follow. Get the facts straight and get a life you idiot....Grand Master Harris
aharbuk 2 years ago
@aharbuk Sam Harris is attacking Islam because of the following beliefs: 1) Allah exists. 2) Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. 3) The Quran was dictated word for word by Allah. 4) Insulting Muhammad or the Quran should be punished. 5) Homosexuals should be stoned. 6) Adulterers should be stoned. Which one of those is false? Those are some of the ideas Sam Harris is attacking.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
Yeah sure fosfor bombs - another muslim propoganda, if Israel wanted it would already wipe out any arabs living in it (believe me they have enought weapons to do it), yet israelis are not savages like you muslims.
All you scum crying about how US and Israel are terrorists yet doing everything to flee your muslim countries to live in these "terrorist states". Truth is - these are the only countries who have enought guts to oppose the islamists.
goblik2009 2 years ago
The Turks would stop the Israelis, thats why they can't wipe out any countries in the mid-east. & who is fleeing anywhere to live in Isreal??? LMAO
sonertb 2 years ago
Sure, after Turks will finish killing all kurds. Its Turkey who buys military systems from Israel not versa vice.LMAO
"Who is fleeing to live in Israel?" Thousands of Pals who request Israeli citizenship for different rasons, muslims who claim to be refugees from northen Africa, etc.
Fifth population worships Islam... well look where and how this "fifth" live
goblik2009 2 years ago
Turks dont but military systems from Israel, they buy them from the same people the israelis do, the USA. And Turks aint half as bad to the Kurds as the israelis are to the palestinians, plus its a completely different situation! And what was the final point you tried to make, i couldnt understand it.
sonertb 2 years ago
My point was to adress some lies I read here.
...well, I guess you know about Turkey-Israel military contracts as much as you know about Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
goblik2009 2 years ago
I didn't write any lies, i read some & heard some while watching this video tho.
sonertb 2 years ago
I didn't say that you lied, although I think there are things u r disimformed about....As for the video, if I was muslim I wouldn't like it neither.
goblik2009 2 years ago
Im not muslim, i just don't like the way that people blame ALL of islam, because of afew evil people. We don't remember Hitler for bein a evil CHRISTAIN that wanted to kill all the jews! But according to Sam Harris, every evil muslim is evil because they are Muslim, was Hitler evil because he was christain?
sonertb 2 years ago
@sonertb Muslims are not evil, but there are evil ideas in Islam. If a Muslim supports the stoning of homosexuals or adulterers, then they are evil. If a Muslim supports the punishment of people who insult Muhammad or burn Qurans, then they are evil. It depends on the individual. Sam Harris is criticizing the barbaric policies put in place by Muhammad.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
@Vincentaneous what would u say if i insult u and all ur beloved ones espicially ur partner and kids??? im sure u will forgive me and u will give me a candy too, aren't you? your discussion is so weak and people dont use it now adays, talk about something not everyone knows including those who are converting into islam everyday
angelsevil2002 9 months ago
@angelsevil2002 If you insulted my loved ones I would laugh because I don't even know you. I would not get angry because I am not a child. Also, the fastest growing religion in the world is secular humanism - that is, no religion at all. It is true that Islam is growing faster than other religions, mainly due to birth rate. However, as more Muslims are exposed to the comforts of a free society, each generation more and more of their children will turn away from Islam.
Vincentaneous 9 months ago
soulblackman is hysterical bitch who blames whites for his fucked up life...bark, but don't bite...bitch
bobthebuzztard 2 years ago
Alot of what is said in this video is also true of Christianity in the past & present.
sonertb 2 years ago
@sonertb and Sam Harris has been questioning religions... all religions... but muslims seem to be more backward than most.
beenn15 1 year ago
The three monotheisms are an abomination and a blight on humanity. Islam, at the moment, is a true perversion of the human spirit and needs to be eliminated from the planet for our good and the good of the planet.
leland61 2 years ago 2
You're obviously a homosexual and a general freak, recalling the savagery of ancient Greece & Rome, Babylon and Sodom & Gomorrah. Whatever you are, a real perversion of what a human being really is, Islam will not be destroyed. Europe, with its history past and present, of evil, is in the age of its decline and eventual extinction.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
You have a horrible time with logic. You disagree with leland61 so you call him/her a homosexual and a freak? You are ridiculous and need to find some common interests on youtube instead of rambling on.
christymaryann 2 years ago
If u think I'm going to sit here & take insults from fools / devils, silent, uv got something to think about. I cam here to comment. If folks want to act like savages, visigoths and devils, I will take them on. IF they want dialouge, I'm all for it. IF u can't accept this, let's move on. I'M moving on.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
What exactly is "savage" about a youtube comment. Dialogue is debate you are not debating you are randomly insulting people. As far as the apes you can think what you will but it is true. We are all the same there is no real basis for race. Race is entirely a socialization concept. So me and you are of the same race the human race. Somehow I doubt you ever move on.
christymaryann 2 years ago
An OBJECTIVE view of BenFrank & Opiates comments will have u understand why I took exception to them. Of course, we're human beings, but again I say, I KNOW my people r from Africa, but NOT from apes. That's a myth from white people, so called "evolution". REALLY, this has NOTHING to do w/the discussion of Islam. It is a DIVERSION, meant to be an insult. Blacks r from Africa, whites r from Europe. Whites today in particular, r trying to export homosexual culture to Africa & S.America.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
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White supremacy reigns and pollutes and permeates the world.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
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this is such a lie...
islam doesn't teach what you are saying.
abdulloh007 2 years ago
@abdulloh007 great argument.... you offer no evidence whatsoever
drabarne 2 years ago 2
This is a good video, but then again it doesn't mention any proof from its own scriptures that islam is really like this. Wonderful video anyway, it exposed how some muslims act, but again it didnt mention any proof from Islam's scripture to prove that this is the ideology of all muslims. Would 100% agree with u if there were proofs. But i cant
xKingPola3ux 2 years ago
Fuck religion!
Mattyb88ful 2 years ago 2
In Qur'an, 4 witnesses r required to substantiate illegal sex, so IF a country says it's up to the husband & 2 friends, that way OFF.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Four witnesses are required because despite marrying a child of six and taking her to his bed at the age of nine Muhammad could not be certain that his wife was faithful to him alone. When Aisha was accused of being unfaithful to him he had a convenient revelation of her innocence and decreed that four reliable witnesses are required before such accusations are ever to be believed. This is jurisprudence on the basis of an old man's sexual inadequacy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 3
U have no basis 4 such an assertion, which is driven, simply by an anti-islamic spirit, than any sense of truth. even IF u were correct, ayah were revealed at times, due to situations in the prophet's life. The fact remains that 4 the believers, 4 witnesses is the standard 4 such a crime,which makes it very hard to enforce, which clearly refutes the notion of the husband & 2 friends; that's not Quran. THAT's the point of my comment, so if u want to make assumptions, that's your choice.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
If anybody found the four witness rule satisfied natural justice they could freely copy it. Do I have to point at to you that nobody who isn't a Muslim has ever taken any notice of this ruling? That's because it does not promote natural justice, it is perverse and arbitrary. The only function this ruling ever served was to stop Muhammad appearing as a victim of adultery, to spare a tyrant's blushes.
Adultery is not a crime in civilized countries, but fucking children is.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 2
Devil. I'm not going to go back and forth in qualifying to you what civilized is. AIDS, homosexuality, beastiality, imperialism. Since you want to continue to show yourself as a rebellious, vulgar devil, to you be your way and to me, mine. You want to use that cheap, silly conjecture that Allah's command that 4 witnesses are needed to prove illegal sex, then so be it. But you certainly won't waste my time. I wanted to dialouge, you wanted to curse. I will not lower myself. Peace.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
"Fucking" used fewer characters than having sex with, and it does more pointedly. It was not revelling in cursing. Muhammad had sex with a nine year old child. That is not something we could ever accept as moral behaviour today. It is not guaranteed to be abusive and mentally and physically damaging but it is one of those actions which shows such recklessness as to the consequences that we choose to forbid it in all circumstances, especially for role models, the same as driving while drunk.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 2
Devil. I'm not going to get into prattle about standards today vs. yesterday. Presuming this account is true (and there are reasons to believe the hadis r inaccurate about Aisha's age), as u said, TODAY's standards. In the MEANTIME, today's "Standards" encourage homosexuality, illicit sex and infanticide, to name a few. Drinking is forbidden in Islam. Again, if u insist on responding like a rebellious devil, refrain from commenting. I'm just not in the mood for this foolishness.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Calling people devils shows you have no right to the moral high ground you think is your birthright.
If you want to live a clean Islamic life go and live in an Islamic country.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 2
I'm calling it the way you project it. You are an arrogant, vulgar and rebellious devil. I will do the best I can to live a clean, Islamic life anywhere I choose to, and you damn well aren't going to make me move. That being said, there are some that have taken the position to move to "Islamic" countries.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Rebellious? One can only rebel against a genuine and legitimate authority. Resisting tyranny is not a vice or even a virtue, it is a duty, and there is no greater despotism than the tyranny of man-made gods. Nothing is more arrogant than claiming that your imaginary friend created the whole universe and is in charge of all aspects reality. It is religion which is the usurping tyrant and resisting such tyrants is the noblest thing a man could ever do. If your god existed it would even be brave.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 2
I'm not even going to waste my time with YOUR rebellious, devil-ment.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
You are not smart enough to reply.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 2
I'm smart enough NOT to reply.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
...he says, proving himself wrong on both counts.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
It is true. There are over 20 ahadith explicitly stating Aisha's age as being 9.
Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim are both considered strong, and the same story appears in both numerous times.
When the same story appears in both books it is considered "rock solid".
The hadiths also have recital chains originating from different people who all claim to have heard it directly from Aisha.
Conclusion : Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Some yrs ago, I read a very good commentary on the age of Aisha at the time of her marriage. But 1st, let me state, IF she was 9 at consummation, understanding, at that time in history, it was no big deal, as NO scripture spoke of an age of consent, I'm not going to trash it. It was what it was. Anyway, the piece I read made some pts. that she was more like 15-18. 2nd, hadith is NOT Qur'an & it NOT holy. Even IF there are 20 "hadis", it doesn't mean a thing. Bukari & Muslim r not infallible.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
I agree, sex with 9 year old girls was normal at the time. However Muhammad's actions were supposed to be specifically ordained by Allah, and his actions to be copied by all men for all time.
A medical study in the USA showed that girls under the age of 14 are TWICE as likely to experience miscarriages. If Allah wanted men to impregnate young girls then why make them miscarry?
1: Allah wants young girls to get pregnant.
2: Allah made young girls miscarry.
Therefore Allah loves dead babies.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
U guys r really something. None of us can speak to the physiological conditions back then. I also know that ultimately, such a decision is made w/the father's approval. At the end of the day, whatever Aisha's age was, she was one of the Mothers of the Believers, and I choose to focus more on THAT & her scholarship, than the stumbling blocks u & others wish to place. Anyways, I said all I needed to on the subject. U as a disbeliever, unless Allah wills, r simply going to maintain ur position.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
I think I made it clear. The individual case of child molestation doesn't interest me because it was over 1,300 years ago.
What I think is important though is that all three of the following statements cannot be true at the same time.
1: Allah told Muhammad to marry Aisha.
2: Muhammad is a perfect example for all time.
3: Allah was God.
4: God doesn't love seeing dead babies.
BTW, I *wanted* Islam to be true when I looked into it, but I can't help reaching the conclusion that it clearly isn't
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
I'm not here to qualify what you "wanted" to be true. I provided the best understanding I could. I can see through ur supposed "conclusions" which r not based on sound logic. U speak more to the mores' of America, as IF its' the moral compass. Child molestation, legally, changes from society. IF Aisha was indeed 9, then it was ok for that society. Again, the Bible doesn't specify an age of consent. I also explained that research exists, to challenge this assertion. U disbelieve and want to
Soulblackman 2 years ago
justify it. That's ur business. Regarding ur last pt, babies die all the time, for reasons other than mothers being young. I can't speak to the shape & development females were in during those days & neither can u. America & its view, is central to ur "arguments"; it's not, for me. If u choose to use the example of Aisha, who at the end of the day, Muslims respect as a mother of the believers, that's ur business. I know in history, there r more significant things about her than what u want to
Soulblackman 2 years ago
continue to focus on. We are in the critical days, of as Jesus pointed out, the "wheat vs. the tare". Today, Muslims find ourselves under the most intense scrutiny since the Hijrah. But this time, the war is more along the line of "logic", which really is the most powerful, in terms of long term impact. I do know that an outright, satanic, homosexual, beastial & debaucherous movement is behind this. Many will be deceived, for as Jesus reportedly said, "even the very elect will be deceived".
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Branding homosexuals as evil is a clear indication of the "evil" inherent in most religions,
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Believe me, this is an underlying and motivating issue in your entire argument vs. Islam. At this point, I tire of the consistent bantering w/you. You pick & choose what u consider evil, ignoring scripture. You're quick to point out a "stat" regarding miscarriages for <14 age females, yet ignore the fact the the killer disease AIDS is most prevalent amongst homosexuals. Homosexuality is evil in Islam, Christianity, Judaism and traditional Africa. The anus is not a sex organ.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
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CorporalNym 2 years ago
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CorporalNym 2 years ago
Homosexuals fuck each other with consent, if they die as a result that's their own choice. People who fuck little girls are performing an act on someone too young to consent.
And yes, I do quote a statistic. This is based on the results of medical research in the USA and conclusively proves that little girls are less capable of carrying a baby to full term
So Allah send Muhammad as a perfect example, made him fuck a 9 year old, and then ALSO made little girls miscarry more often. Thanks Allah!
AlRasuwl 2 years ago 2
I see the wisdom of not engaging in debates w/anyone who defends sodomy; it's a waste of time to try to appeal to /such a sick mind. I reject u and ur over the top criticisms of the Holy Prophet, plus ur distorted & disingenuous "concern" for young females. I know that at the end of the day, u suffer from the same devil-mind as ur cohorts. That's why ur so vulgar. U defend anal "sex", which God CONDEMNS, under some guise of "consent". Already gave us some possible explanations regarding Aisha.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Who the hell are you to say what a god does or doesn't condemn? Can YOU speak for any deity? Oh right, I didn't think so. You're just another dumb chimp-like ape, just like anybody else. So stop thinking you know what a deity's opinion is.
opiates 2 years ago
Opiates:
Stick to your opium and leave me alone. I will state my position, no matter what devil says. I'M a 'chimp-like' ape? One say, STUDY blacks vs. apes & whites vs. apes, and you'll be shocked to see who is closer to the ape. Allah says the very sins that Europe & America want to export to the world are abominations. I do not speak of myself. I 'm not speaking for God; that would be like being on opium.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
@Soulblackman Do you always talk out of your ass, or do you just make it up as you go?
BenjaminFranklin2u 2 years ago
I can say from this exchange, I talk to an ass, and as the saying goes, "you couldn't make this up".
Go on, devil!
Soulblackman 2 years ago
We would be the same to an ape because race is a social construct not a genetic one.
christymaryann 2 years ago
If you want to see yourself as an ape, go for it.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Humans and apes evolved from the same common ancestor. What you camped out on this page. Do you think you are helping anything by calling everyone the devil?
christymaryann 2 years ago
Maybe the ape and YOU have a common ancestor, but not with ME! I will call a person a devil. I call it as I see it.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
It's too bad human beings are also an ape species. Know your shit before you spout off. Again, you go, "Allah says," how the hell do YOU know what any deity says, if it indeed exists? So you DO think you can speak for a god despite claiming otherwise. Use your brain for once. And finally, what the hell does opium have to do with anything? You don't have an argument so you resort to an ad hominem attack just like the rest of the muzmuppets. So typical you are.
opiates 2 years ago
I just used your moniker, understanding that with satanic, insane "logic" such as yours, you must be on opium. You damn sure aren't sober! Don't have an argument? The reason you and your fellow savages are coming off with vulgarity and out-of-mind remark, is BECAUSE I have an argument.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
...what the HELL are you talking about???? You know what, forget it. I can't reason with you. Can't rationalize with an irrational person. Goodbye.
opiates 2 years ago
So get behind me SATAN and bother me NO MORE! I will no longer entertain ur posts. Allah says, "to you be your way & to me, mine". I've got too much important work to do, trying to be a good Muslim, to have u & other hypocrites and devils, try to take me from that.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
So anyone who disagrees with you is either a devil or satan himself? That's a very convenient way of getting people not to look into the basis of their beliefs, don't you think?
What would you think if every time you tried to convince a polytheist into believing there is only ONE God he said "You are just Satan tricking me"? You'd think he was pretty closed minded wouldn't you?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago 3
You are mentally ill
CorporalNym 2 years ago 2
Actually, you're looking in the mirror, when you accuse me of such. It takes one to know one.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
dear fool. there is no god. and you are a hateful fuck.
zackmahal 2 years ago 9
Dear devil. What you show is without a doubt, there IS a devil. And I guess you're a loving *@()#@) ? Anyways, are these the jewels of wisdom from you, SNAKE-TAN?
Soulblackman 2 years ago
one of the worst parts of religion (and certainly the most tiresome) is that it gives exceptionally stupid people the false impression that they know anything about anything.
zackmahal 2 years ago 28
That's a great message. Can I quote you?
opiates 2 years ago
Why are you here then?
christymaryann 2 years ago
You lost me at Satan.
christymaryann 2 years ago
I think I tagged you at Satan.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
I agree.
christymaryann 2 years ago
"4 witnesses"
And here is the consequence of that demand.
1: Women is raped, she calls out but nobody hears.
2: She reports forced sex but has no witnesses, but is able to testify 4 times that what she says is true.
3: The man is questioned, he testifies 4 times that it is not true.
Conclusion: The woman has admitted sex but cannot prove rape. The man is released and the woman stoned to death.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Outside of DNA, it is very difficult to prove rape, and even then, in absence of evidence of trauma, it could very well be consensual, as in the case of Tyson. While I obviously sympathize w/the victim, the rights of the accused must be protected as well. To be honest, as Qur'an 24:2 speaks directly to consensual illegal sex & it doesn't speak specifically to rape, the scholars should examine this, going forward. But in all, there is NOTHING in Islam that calls for the barbaric killing of a rape
Soulblackman 2 years ago
DNA doesn't prove rape, it merely proves who had sex. If a condom is used then there may be no DNA at all.
"Nothing in Islam calls for the barbaric killing of a rape"
No, but isn't that because the same word is used for both sex and rape? These people are "prosecuted" under fornication law.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
victim. IF anything, given the scenario, the worse 1 could accuse her of is slander, which would call for lashes. Obviously, this scenario is a tough one, because in this case, the accused, if guilty, does get away w/the crime, while on earth. Unless he repents, he WILL be dealt with in the hereafter; don't u worry. Anyways, I don't know where u get the 4x testimony. Allah says 4 [outside] witnesses for zina. Again, there's no Islamic precedent 4 killing the victim. I'll leave it at that.
Soulblackman 2 years ago
Please don't worry author. I see far worse than this on youtube videos when kids talk about who they want to win the xfactor talent contest!
SteveArpo 2 years ago
Fuck religion! No matter what religion it is.
1Regnvejr 2 years ago 3
ISLAM=NAZI
immanuel77 2 years ago
harriszsultan, your prophet married 9 year old Aisha. So he is a pedophile.
clriales 2 years ago 2
Just some constructive criticism on the video from an interested watcher:
I loved your video content, but to be honest, the audio along with all the written video was somewhat busy. It's hard for the average person to read one thing and listen to another! You would get your message across much more strongly if you were verbally elaborating what was written, or complementing what you were saying with only photos instead of text, I think.
That being said, I still loved it.
AnzqDanz 2 years ago 2
I agree. That still doesn't require 'evil' to exist in order to be true, though. Exapnding your example, let's assume that the robbery is motivated by poverty. One may feel inclined to a number of options: get more work, borrow money, commit armed robbery etc.. It doesn't matter what options you consider, it's the action that counts. 'Good' & 'evil' are subjective values but the concept of 'minimisation of harm' derives from objective thinking.
stamboni316 2 years ago
The part where the text is questioning the power of God because evil exists is missing one element. Man cannot know what is good and what is evil if the latter does not exist. Evil is necessary in the world to tell the difference between a choice of actions. So the existence of evil in the world is not a contradiction to God's power but simply a necessity for us to have free will and choice.
NoamTube 2 years ago