I know God exists, I read His word but I'm not able to follow God if He doesn't work in me...I'm just a dirty sinner trying to live a good life with my family. I don't really know if there's gonna be a rapture or not...His word is spiritual so not everything will happen as we read it literally. All those who will be saved is only because of God's mercy, not because we believe or did something...I don't know and don't think I'm saved (probably later or never) all I want is: May God's will be done
NO MATTER WHAT PPL THINK OR SAY........THE TRUTH IS CLEAR WHEITHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT OR ACCEPT IT OR NOT.....IT IS NOT GOING TO STOP THE RAPTURE FROM HAPPENING...IT CANT AND WONT STOP FOR ANY ONE OR ANYTHING!!!!!!
I'm sorry what day is it fucker? I'm going back to playing saints row the third you fucker. I mean I just believed in Christ as much as you do but I found a rapture full of fucking shit
I can't stop watching this ...two and a half minutes that can change your life.So much good stuff here, but I especially like the part at 01:46 where the young lady's expression changes from confusion or fear to great joy: the moment she realizes Jesus has come for her and the other believers
Reminds me of the Samuel Becket "Waiting for Godot". The bums waiting for a mysterios guy named Godot and he never appears. Sounds similar? Me? An atheist.
@TheCrossling I dont have an answer for you about the children, but as for those who are old enough to know sin and have the understanding of accepting christ will be found guilty wether they heard of him or not. Thats why he came and died for our sins , thats why as christians we need to tell people about jesus. If what you are saying is true then we have no need to tell anyone about jesus. Read romans 1:18-20
I actually had a dream were i saw the second coming. It was a few days ago, i was concerned about it because my dreams are normally weird or i don't remember them but this one i remember pretty clearly. I was in a museum and as i looked out of the window i saw the clouds break and in the middle of them was very bright light. Out of the light Jesus descended down to earth and Angels were encircling him as he came down. My dream ended there though. Just thought I'd share this.
I had a rapture dream to no lie and glimpses of the rapture dream before I got the full dream. The rapture dreams never ever end here on youtube by the ways
@GriiiiiiinD Just a month ago, I had a similar dream. His face was emitting light , i don't know how, but i knew it was our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ !
I also dream about second coming when months later after I got born Again, but my dreams are different Lots of angel are flying in the sky and Jesus is bigger.
I dream about it 4+ times though every dream is different to each other but there are all about second coming. I don't know why.
I had a rapture dream to, I saw a man holding out his arms floating in the air and shining so bright my eye pupils hurt and I saw millions upon millions of people wearing white robes flying off towards heaven from all corners of the earth from all over time gathering in one place where Christ and I were at in dream. And whew! It was alotttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt of people being caught up and I was one of them. And those left behind oh they were sorry asses.
Honestly, I do not care wheter it is pre-trib or mid-trib or post-trib. I do not know how far we are into Revelation. However, this i do know: Jesus is coming right away. Many people were warned in visions and dreams. We must not be asleep, but we must live for Jesus only, and we must live holy. Do not get caught up in worldliness! Jesus is coming right away! Be prepared and wait for Him. May you and I be considered worthy to be with Jesus forever.
Thank you so much for posting this video.It may not be exactly how it will happen but this is a great visual and it spreads the word of the ALMIGHT GOD. For those of you who doubt, it is not to late. Ask GOD to forgive all your sins, repent and know that Jesus is your only way. STOP LISTENING TO SATAN!! Watch those videos of those who went to hell and back. YOU DON"T WANT TO BE THERE!! you will be FOREVER CUT OFF from the almighty GOD. Read your Bible and your eyes will open, hear the truth!
Am I prepared for what event? A christian crank-yank cartoon about biblical fantasy? Yes, I am prepared...to ridicule it openly. I am prepared to laugh at the soft-headed fanboys who watch this nonsense with wide-eyed appreciation for the "quality of the animation" and the way it "adheres to scripture." Well, this counts for pretty standard animation, and I won't tell you to what hygienic purposes I put "the scriptures." In the end, you'll leave this life just like us atheists--the hard way.
Oh my goodness, how does one prepare for such an event!?
Is the an imaginary friend i can talk to?
Perhaps there are organisations out there that i can give some of my hard earned money to.
Maybe there is book with inconsistencies, blatant lack of facts that is backed up by absolutely no evidence i can pin all my hopes and fears on!!!?
Or should i just grow the fuck up and accept that the ignorance of our ancestors necessitated the invention of gods to explain the world around them...
Holding to a Pre-Tribulation rapture notion is drastically weakening the Church worldwide. The Church should be preparing for spiritual battle against the most evil forces arrayed by hell. Instead, the Church is lukewarm and languishing with a false hope. This is all orchestrated by demonic powers in order to result in a limp army of believers. In this age of laxity among Christians, it does not take much on the part of the dark powers to accomplish this goal.
Hey Rapture people ! - Wanna sell me all your worldly goods for a dollar ? The sale date will be the day before the next rapture occurs. Good for me : good for you !
@curiousgeorge1940 NO ONE knows when will the rapture happen so why would anyone who believes in rapture sell everything for a dollar to you. It's only good for you!
Great movie idea! You did however forget to post the disclaimer at the end; you know, the one that reads "The events depicted in this movie are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental." I know, I know, it seems ridiculous to have to say this, but if you don't, some people may actually believe this was real! Crazy right?
Hey! I have a great idea! Show us your god, please!
Oh, that's right, you can't, because in order to make your religion "true" you have to make it unfalsifiable. God, if he exists, is hiding behind a rock somewhere playing a sick game of hide and seek, pretending that he doesn't exist. That makes sense.
I wish this would really fucking happen. Leave the rest of the world with people who know how to get shit done instead of wasting all that time on our knees praying to our invisible sky daddy to save us all.
I believe in Christ and all, but come on! The people who think stuff like this will happen, are the same type of people who started the Salem witch trails.
We can write cause our body,our physical being, enables it.If we wouldn't have a body to carry our spirit&soul we wouldn't be able to write, wouldn't be seen neither. Same with God.You can't see Him cause He's a SPIRIT!If ppl of this world could see Him: wouldn't be enough.
They'd want more n more proofs nd at a point, they'd just kill Him cause of their blinded mindsets. Cause ppl in general don't like things or ppl who are different then what they're used to. (Look at our world history!)God even revealed HIMSELF finally in a human body, but STILL! No matter what anyone says we already HAD this story, still not enough for all the haters, unfortunately.God needs a physical body to show himself.That's y He uses ppl.
Answer: After the Great Tribulation and Be READY for the coming of GREAT TRIBULATION- Matthew 24:21
Question:What will happen to those people remains in the earth?
Answer: All people in Christ shall reign with Him a 1,000 years and GOD give them to those remains in the EARTH to confess their SIN to GOD in 1,000 years,- 1 Timothy 2:4 but IF the 1,000 years Begin, Satan will be released from his prison to deceive people-Revelation 20:4-8
1,No one know when. 2. It will come and those that are left behind will not see Christ taken his shiip but see it as an attack of some kind of wepon. Ya notice there is nothing after 2. Why? Because I'll not be here to be part if it. FOR I CLAIM JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND SAVOR. AMEN.
animation was ok. the art was pretty good and I like the sci-fi story going on. Is this a demo of a project your doing? The teaser is pretty good, my guess is it's aliens or something like that.
@rapturedpassage yea, this is exactly what many republican HOPE will happen.
they fuck up the planet, than say "look how fucked up the planet is, the rapute must be near", and in thier hearts, they really do hope that they'll be "saved", or else, they'll have to look into thier grandkids eyes and explaine to them why the planet is so fucked up.
even if there is a raputer, live your life as if you're going to have to live here for another 100 years.
@TheNeeCeeg Oh, I see. So this has nothing to do with good or bad people, just those who are willing to submit to authority and those who do not?
Your version of god makes him sound so insecure... sort of like a big teenage bully who tries to make everybody in his gang like him, and beats them up if they don't. And the raputere is when he's got tickets to a movie, but you can only come if you call him the leader.
@Nygaard2 No its really more like...There was this guy (Jesus) and he did everything right and wanted us to live as closely to his way as possible. There are those who reject his way and those that don't. So its really up to you. Look into Christ Jesus. Christians are not perfect but Christ was. Don't follow Christians, follow Christ as best you can. It's simply our job to tell you about him. Sincerely I really want God to bless of you. Take care.
@TheCrossling Of course the truth is that there was this Jewish cult leader who some believed to be good others did not. Then later people wrote stories about this leader, adding a little magic here and there to make it even better, and non-Jews began to hear about him. Then a Roman emperor saw the interest in making a unified religion that would bind his empire closer together and ordered the jesus followers to agree on a holy text. Of course Jeshua might have been a good, I'll grant you that.
@Nygaard2 Please read the first 4 gospels, same story 4 different ways. I now skip over the "magic" when I read. because you're right, we can't prove any of that. It's not the miracles its what he said and did that make me believe. He could be a little harsh at times. If I (personally) were to make up a story about God on earth he would be more perfect in every way. The story is to detailed and human to be fake. Also, the letters from Paul and the others are way way to detailed to be fake.
@TheCrossling I have, I teach christianity. What's your point about the "same" story being told 4 different ways? There are nothing amazing about that, that's how oral traditions work when they are being written down. How's Paul's letters "too detailed" to be fake? (I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean).
@Nygaard2 You're right-on about the oral traditions. The Gospels would seem fake if all were choreographed. However, since they are not perfect, they are more credible. The theory is they have an original written source (quelle) & oral history played telephone with them. As to Paul: the way he writes is very detailed & sometimes even boring. Often portions of the letters are responses to questions or references to things that happened which only the intentioned reader(s) & he might know about.
It's a deathcult. How anybody in good conscience could wish to be raptured when there are still people who won't be, is beyond me. I'd think that any good person would want to help out those not saved instead of going off to the desert-god's spaceship.
@rapturedpassage Oh... Gotcha. Righteousness. Well then, rapture away. I'm sure there are millions of non-christian children who deserves to be punished for not accepting god.
@mbsk3lton Oh, well if god tells true believers to warn us, then he should just go ahead and kill those who doubt, it's not like people should have a free choice... Free will, sure. Free choice to live in peace in the world the little desert deity supposedly created, nope. Sorry. How about those who believe live in the kingdom of heaven and the rest of us could be left to our own devise? Wouldn't that be just as good?
@Nygaard2 1timothy 2:4-6 "Who will have [desires] all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."
2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but all should come to repentance. "
@mbsk3lton So we should all repent for our original sin (which was basically due to bad gardening by the hebrew desert god) and then he'll be happy. What's the point then?
It seems to me you can't have all people be saved if this raputere thing is about righteousness, and at the same time wish for all to be saved. So if I'm a wicked man, having led a wicked life, but hears about jesus and converts, then I'm good, but if I'm a little child and miss the news I'm damned? Doesn't seem right to me.
@Nygaard2 we should all repent because we realize we are sinners and Christ provided an escape from hell by dying on the cross- and if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God and God raised Jesus from the dead three days after He was crrucifed you will be saved. When the rapture comes kids that are too young to know the difference between right and wrong will be raptured. Jesus is your escape route. We are in the end times- Jesus will battle the world's armies at Armageddon. Choose Jesus.
@mbsk3lton Where does it say that in the bible? That kids will be ok? So basically learning the difference between right and wrong is what makes us sinful... Well perhaps god should have made us without brains instead. And exactly what army would he be fighting?
How about thinking this through a little better before believing it?
@mbsk3lton Have you thought this through? If children who don't know the difference between right and wrong are saved, isn't that proof that the original sin is a lie? It's ORIGINAL - so it shouldn't be ignored simply because of age, should it? Unless of course Yeshua fixed it all with his death... in which case there's really no need for a rapture. And why would the world's armies fight Yeshua if he came back?
I chose to live life now, instead of going around longing for death, thank you.
@Nygaard2 my nephews were stillborn and are in heaven. Yes I have thought things through and my final answer is Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior died for all of us whether you believe it or not. I believe in the Almighty God who created the world in 6 days, and who knew you and I before He created the world. His word, the Bible, is full of warnings to turn to Him. There is no other way to enter heaven except you repent and believe in Jesus Christ and confessing Him as Savior.
@mbsk3lton But my nieces who died in a car crash at the age of 8 and 10 are now in hell? Or how old do you have to be to be old enough to chose what to believe? I'm just astonished at how evil it is. And I'm seriously astonished at the black-mail quality of it all. We are not supposed to look to the little desert god for wisdom or peace of mind, we are supposed to subject to him OR ELSE! Don't you see how primitive and tribal it sounds?
@Nygaard2 are you a little child? Why worry about OTHER people when its YOU who will stand before God on judgment day giving account for EVERY word? Nobody else can stand in for you on that day. Ok...you choose to live but if you have an accident and die tomorrow that's not really living cuz without Christ people go to hell. With Christ - you REALLY live! My friend, this life is only a precursor to ETERNAL life- heaven or hell. Its your soul and I hope you choose heaven, friend.
@mbsk3lton Did you seriously just ask why I worry about other people? Aside from the fact that eternal life is not something I'd wish, how can ever enjoy heaven knowing that other people are in hell? In such a case either god's little experiment failed, or the christians who were supposed to bring the message failed. Not exactly something I would enjoy if I believed.
I think the judgement thing is the weakest part of christianity.
@Nygaard2 Yes I did seriously ask you. Do you sit in your car at a stop light and worry about someone walking across the street if they are going to hell? You say that the christians who were supposed to bring the message failed, but see, YOU heard the message and you are NOW without excuse. You'll stand before God Almighty and you will remember this conversation. If you REPENT and BELIEVE in Jesus Christ, you will miss hell! You don't want to go there!
@mbsk3lton Sure, I'll remember to mention you tried when I chat with him, I'm sure it'll buy you a better seat at the captain's dinner (or whatever they call it in heaven :P )
The problem is, you can't just "believe" in something. Either you are convinced by evidence or you are not. I'm not convinced by stories from ancient desert tribes, I prefer evidence and truth. I'm not concerned about me - like I said earlier I'm more concerned about these fantasies scarring kids and young minds.
@Nygaard2 Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." My faith rests with God Almighty who sent His Son to die for us. You say "either you are conviced by evidence..." How does a blind person see the truth if he can't see Christ? How does a deaf person hear the truth, if he cant hear the truth? 2 Corinthians 5:7 "(For we walk by faith, not by sight:) Romans 10:17 "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
@mbsk3lton So basically you don't care whether what you believe is true or not - you just have faith? And I can't see christ, not because he's been dead 2011+ years, but because I'm blind? But if I had heard the word of the jewish desert god I would have faith? But I have, and it sounds like a lot of old texts bundled together in the 4th century. It doesn't at all sound like the words of a divine being. Have you read other religious texts? They are strangely similar in many ways.
@Nygaard2 Oh, my Jesus is REAL. Yes you are spiritually blind and deaf because your heart is hard and cold. Now you talk about a Jewish desert god....I will answer with the word of God- the final authority 1 Corinthians 14:38 "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant."
@mbsk3lton How can you know about my heart? We've been passing back and forth a couple of comments on the internet and you think you know me? I thought your god was the only judge of that? And you call me ignorant?
And you are quoting the bible as proof? You are putting your life into the hands of ancient superstition, clearly made up (that doesn't mean it's all bad, but it's certainly not real) - who's ignorant?
@Nygaard2 I dont know your heart- I am not judging you. But based on the questions you ask me and the false doctrine you're trying to pass onto me, that is ignorance. 1 Corinthians 14:38 "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant." Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him b unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
@mbsk3lton I'm not trying to pass ANY doctrine on to you - doctrine is the problem. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't go around peddling scary stories about death and damnation to kids and naive people. Telling people that the rapture and hell is "real" is just wicked. Why don't you concentrate on the nice parts of christianity? If this had been about how nice things are in heaven I'd probably just smiled and moved on.
@Nygaard2 (1) Peddling is defined as going door to door to SELL something. Im dont want your money. I want you to know the TRUTH! Jesus Himself preached MORE about hell than heaven. Wonder why? TO WARN!! The Rapture is real, hell is real, heaven is real and your life on this earth is ONLY a puff of smoke, here now but gone later which vanishes into eternal life: heaven or hell. Oh yes, lets do what the devil wants and please everyone and not WARN people about hell- lets not warn about hell
@Nygaard2 (2) because nygaard2 has a big problem with it. Let s not warn because Satan doesnt want people to know the truth! I declared war on satan and his demons and therefore you can step aside because I will not be a fool to your folly. You dont understand that there are angels and demons fighting for your soul, to see which side will get your soul. Now, if you would open your eyes and ears you could begin to understand, because if you dont repent and believe in Christ you WILL be left
@Nygaard2 (3) behind to suffer the wrath of God. I wouldnt want to be in your shoes to deny God and call him a desert god- where do you get that anyway- a coloring book? Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." When you understand all people have sinned and need forgiveness and you repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ, who died for you on the cross and God raised Him from the dead three days later,
@mbsk3lton Sorry, I have to comment on this one as well: " I wouldnt want to be in your shoes to deny God and call him a desert god- where do you get that anyway- a coloring book?"
Are you denying that your god was the god of a desert tribe known as the Jews, before it was morphed into christianity by the 1st council of Nicaea? You now that he's henotheistic in the old testament, right? Otherwise why would he be so afraid of other gods?
@Nygaard2 940 your name will be written in the book of Life. Whose names WILL be written in the book of life? Not sinners (Exodus 32:33), not those who worship the Antichrist (Revelation 13:8), not those who are tricked by the Antichrist's fake resurrection (Revelation 17:8), but OVERCOMERS (Revelation 3:5) FELLOW LABORERS OF THE GOSPEL (Philippians 4:3) Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment." Do you know where you are going?
@Nygaard2 (5) [940] was supposed to say [(4)] Can I direct you towards Jesus? Can I show you where to look for your Creator, who spoke the world into existence, and who sent His only begotten Son to be a ransom for many? Can I tell you the truth, or would you rather be taken in by a lie? Can I help your eyes to open spiritually and your ears as well? Can I point you towards the narrow and straight path which leads to the kingdom of heaven? Will you trust Jesus Christ as your Savior?
@mbsk3lton Sorry, I'd wish I could open YOUR eyes. You keep referring to the bible as if it had any truth value in itself. But it's a construction of man, even if you wanted to claim some supernatural being as the creator, the fact remains that the bible is a constructed piece of literature. So while some people claim one thing about the bible, others claim another. You are aware that many believing christians don't believe in the rapture, right?
@Nygaard2 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Now you tell me WHO told you that the bible was written by man? C'mon- tell me- who put that lie in your head? Yes I am aware a lot of people do not believe in the rapture. Some of these people call themselves 'christians' but really they did not repent, so they will be going to hell too. The bible is the truth.
@mbsk3lton Your proof the bible is true is a quote from the bible? As an example of who told me here's one: Go listen to iTunes U - "Historical Jesus" by Thomas Sheehan. He's even believer, but it doesn't stop him from using critical thinking (they are out of order on iTunes - so listen to "Call Me Yeshua" first).
And saying the bible is truth doesn't make it so. Besides your interpretation could be wrong, couldn't it? Or is modesty and humility not part of christianity any longer?
@Nygaard2 I quote you "He's even believer but it doesnt stop him from using critical thinking"...so on Judgment Day he stands before God, and as YOU say he's even a believer but also critically thinks" According to the word of God, he just canceled himself out. When the bible, who was written by inspiration from my God, says all scripture is given by inspiration of God it makes the bible GOD'S WORD. There is nothing you can say to make me change my mind.
@mbsk3lton What? You are not allowed to THINK? And why wouldn't you change your mind? If you said something that seemed overwhelmingly likely or made sense I would believe you. That's how it works - people convince other people with arguments. Saying you don't want to change your mind "no matter what" is pretty childish, wouldn't you say?
But hey - I don't really care what you believe, I don't know you and I'm sure you are a good man. Be well, and don't worry about the afterlife, live now.
@Nygaard2 Colossians 2:6-8 "As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk you in Him: Rooted and built up in Him, and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through pholosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
@mbsk3lton I'm really sorry your faith doesn't allow you to listen to other people's opinions. The version of christianity you are presenting seems very dark and diminishing, don't you see?
@mbsk3lton Sure, I get that. It's the christian version of: "There is no god except for the God alone." - and you more or less said the Shahada as well: "to know and believe without suspicion, as if witnessed". So you share your belief with almost a billion muslims. That doesn't make it true. They have a holy book as well, it's infallible as well, it even claims to have the same god as the bible. How can you show they are wrong?
@Nygaard2 I am not a Muslim - I am a born again, true believer in Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God! Muslims worship false gods. Ephesians 4:5 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." Muslims' Allah.is NOT God and Muslims have a prophet- Muhammad. Muhammad is still in his grave, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead by the power of God. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."
@mbsk3lton Listen, I'm not trying to say you are muslim, I was merely trying to show to you how weak your argument for belief is. Basically you are just claiming to be right because you are right. Just like many other religions are. But there ARE arguments for christianity or general theism that can be considered valid in a discussion. But standing in a corner saying "I'm right because I'm right, and the bible is true 'cause the bible says it's true isn't an argument worthy of consideration.
@mbsk3lton Right... I'll say this again: you can't quote the bible to prove the veracity of the bible... It just doesn't work in the real world. I'm almost sad we can't have this discussion post-mortem :)
@mbsk3lton So... I'm the foolish man? (You might be right there, I'll leave others to judge) There's no darkness in god? (I think you are very wrong there, the rapture is a good example, so is hell), but those who believe (I pressume you think that includes you) will hang around for ever? Sounds awefully boring.
Answer me this: How come nobody ever think THEY are going to hell?
@Nygaard2 2 Peter 2:1-2 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall evil be spoken of."
@mbsk3lton So how do you know the false prophets and teachers from the right ones? Let me guess: You just know! Because somehow, you interpret those old texts correctly and everyone else are wrong...
Tsk, tsk, tsk, sounds like pride to me. You know pride used to be a sin in some crazy old religion from the Middle East somewhere.
@Nygaard2 I can't be full of pride, I care enough to tell you the truth and to understand that God loves you enough that He sent Jesus to die for you and everyone else. That's not pride- that's caring enough to warn you.
@mbsk3lton I told you, consider your duty fulfilled when it comes to me. You warned me about the cruel punishment and ultimatum of your god, and the "reward" of an eternity of serfdom in an equally unpleasant heaven.
What I'm so astonished about is your ability to be certain about your claims. You say it's not pride, ok then - how about a little humility. Isn't it possible that you are wrong, and other christian denominations are correct?
@Nygaard2 so you want me to humble myself by declaring that its "possible that I am wrong"? Thats not humility. Where you are WRONG is you put heaven as "reward of an eternity of serfdom in an equally unpleasant heaven" on the same page as "cruel punishment and ultimatum of my God". Heaven and hell arent the same thing. What exactly is the issue you have? Yes I have given you the message, I am free and clear of your blood (and everyone else who has been following along).
@mbsk3lton Sure, I might be wrong. But if heaven is a physical place described by many christians, it's not a place I want to spend eternity. And as a matter of fact this whole "eternal life" seems rather uninteresting. Why should we want that?
@Nygaard2 You have a soul that will not die. Your soul can see, hear, think, and feel. Your soul is YOU, not your physical body, but YOU. Your soul is reading this message- it is YOU. Now, when your PHYSICAL body dies, your SOUL lives on- but where? There are two places= heaven or hell. Like I have mentioned, your PHYSICAL life here is ONLY a PRECURSOR to eternal life. YOU are HERE for a reason. God put YOU here to accomplish something. What is it?
@Nygaard2 (2)You say youre so stonished that my ability to be certain about my claims. First of, its the word of God, the Creator who made everyone and everything, who am I to speak against God? Second its called FAITH- the unshaken, the unwavering, the undeniable faith in my Lord and Savior, so seeing as I follow the word of God, no I can't be wrong- in the mindset of I know who my God is and He knows me, I believe He is the Creator and He loves me.
@mbsk3lton (2) But you are not getting your belief from god, you are getting it from an old book written, translated, edited, collected, translated again, edited again, by MEN.
Second, faith might make you unwawering in your belief in what-ever you have faith in, that's the definition of the word, but that's not a proof that what-ever you believe in is true. Especially since many, many people have sincere and heartfelt beliefs that are contradictory to yours. So faith is not a proof of truth.
@Nygaard2 When you put your pants on, you zip it up, right? You do that automatically, right? No thought about it, right? Same thing with faith. You have FAITH because you BELIEVE when you zip up your zipper, it will zip up, no questions asked. But remember this: there are two people watching you, every move you make, seeing things you would rather nobody know about. They are fighting to see who gets your soul. You question me because you dont see nor do you hear the way I do.
@Nygaard2 2 TImothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God..." Romans 10:17 "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but to us which we are saved it is the power of God."
@Nygaard2 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 "Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorrumptible, and we shall be changed." 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world [satan] has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them. "
@mbsk3lton What are you trying to say by quoting the Corinthians? Are you admitting that your god is not all that powerful after all? Or that the glorious gospel of christ might not be as impressive as it claims to be?
@Nygaard2 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 refers to the changing of our bodies from physical to spiritual, instantly when the 7th trumpet sounds. 2 Corinthians 4:4 talks about how satan has blinded people that do not believe in Jesus Christ, so that they [people blinded by satan] become stubborn and have hard hearts and refuse the gospel of Christ.
@mbsk3lton Satan, eh... Do you want to explain what he's doing here? I thought this was a monotheistic religion, the trinity excluded. And I guess that his message most be very strong to fool so many people. Seriously - isn't one murdering god enough - do you have to drag another one into the mix?
@Nygaard2 Satan was once an angel of God. Satan became jealous of God and wanted to be above God. Satan gathered up some followers in heaven and God kicked Satan and his followers out of heaven. Satan knows he and his followers will be thrown in hell and because mankind is made in the image of God, Satan is going to try to drag as many as he can down with him. His biggest tool is placing doubt in God and His word. This is obvious in the doubt that you display.
@mbsk3lton *sigh* Are you aware how silly that story sounds? And illogical. Why would your god not simply remove satan, instead of promoting him? Why is he needed? If man has free will to chose or not chose to follow the gospel, how does your god look at people who have been decieved? Then it's not really their own choice, is it?
And how can you be sure you haven't been duped by satan? I mean, you believe in the rapture, which sounds like an evil event satan would make up.
@Nygaard2 Thats because it was an evil vision of satan, given to a woman named Margaret McDonald in Glasgow Scotland 1830! She even later admitted it to her Pastor, John Darby, who ran with it regardless, to fill his money plates! It has turned into one of the biggest deceptions in Christian history! Not biblical, just pitiful! Everyone who believes in the Pre-Trib rapture, or gathering will fall for the first false Christ who appears at the 6th trump! The anti-christ! True Christ comes at 7th!
@Kelly14UK (ONE) Lol! No! I guess not, being of scottish red-head descent myself! Lmao! Back in the early 90's in my quest for possible truth! I had been in ongoing research, but of avid interest in a huge sell of a book called " The Late Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lyndsey..Quite convincing book on the rapture doctrine! Believed it myself, not being at the time near as biblically literate as today, it had got me hook, line and sinker! Then one night coming home from work second shift! >>>
@utubernaut (TWO) I sat in my lazy chair and turned on the tube! Did not even surf what to watch, just an instant thing! A man sitting at a desk, reading with captions at lower screen from the KJV. The Book of I Thessalonians. The rapture Chapter! Only he was blasting it as a falacy..And explained it well! I was at first offended! I was going to challenge him! But first I had to see everything he had for documentation? Christians of the time thought Paul to mean that Christ would return in that>
@utubernaut (THREE) Day..And by 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Them, meaning Christ and those who have died in Christ will come back with Him. Ecclesiates 12:6-7. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord! Your not still in a hole in the ground in other words..This is the important part of the false doctrine concerning I Thes. 4:17! Those who are>
@utubernaut (FOUR) Alive and remain... What really happens? And at what TIME? First, in the clouds? Literal clouds? Or as Paul says in Hebrews 12:1 A CLOUD of witnesses! This means a magnitude, or many! Many what? People! Caught up in a magnitude of people..O.k. now air! Hmmm! Literal air? Or air as in breathe? As in breath of life? What was breathed into the formed body of Adam? The Holy Spirit! Which brought life into his body! So what are we saying here? Lets go to I Corinthians 15:52-54 >
@utubernaut (FIVE) And it says.1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. What is it that changes us into our spiritual body, for those of us who are alive and remain? The breath of life, or Ruach= Holy spirit, wind, air! Yes! And at what time does this occur? Important ! Listen to what God's word declares friends! This is the real clincher that should make all think!>
@utubernaut (SIX) AT WHAT TIME DOES IT SAY TIS WILL OCCUR? At the last TRUMP! Does anyone know when the anti-christ comes and when Yahshua the real Christ comes? Well, lets document that scripturally! Lets go to.. nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day shall not come first? The coming of our >
@utubernaut (SEVEN) Lord Jesus Christ! So who does it say does come first? The apostacy of the church, or falling away from truth, and then the Son of Perdition! And who is that? Why it is satan himself! Undisputable fact by Paul himself in his second letter to the Thessalonian people, correcting them on the misunderstanding of his first letter to them! So what is the deception that will befall all those who believe in the satanic rapture doctrine? An 1830 vision by a Scottish woman of Glasgow>
@utubernaut (EIGHT) Scotland who's Pastor took it and ran with it to fill his money plates! A book by Dave McPhearson, "The Rapture Secret". She later claimed it to be of an err of darkness that befell her..Back to the deception.. If Christ is coming at the Last Trump, or Seventh Trump and it say's that the Son Of Perdition comes before Him, as you just read from II Thes 2:3..Read the whole chapter! Then when does the anti-christ come? The Fifth and Sixth Trump! Rev.12:4 and 9:1! Does it really>
@utubernaut Say anywhere that Christ is coming BEFORE this 5th, or 6th Trump! NO! I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise! And having once been a rapture believer myself! Beware! Lol! I know them all, and will continue till your conquered in defeat! Lol! So! Who are the rapture believer's going to think the first one to come is? Why, Jesus come to rapture them away! VERY DANGEROUS test of your biblical literacy, FOR LISTENING TO MAN telling you what to believe! And they are FALSE TEACHER'S!
@utubernaut (TEN) One more documentation! Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Now, what angel sounded? The 7th! And this is the LAST Trump! The world has just become the kingdom of our LORD! He has COME! At this trump! NONE Prior! And you have at this moment also recieved your spiritual body in I Cor 15:52 at what trump?>
@utubernaut (ELEVEN) At the Last Trump, which is the 7th Trump! There you have it folks! DO NOT listen to the traditions of MAN, but listen to the WORD of God! We are NOT worthy to be taken from the Tribulation of the anti-christ! But instead, heed these words in closing! 2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of>
@utubernaut (TWELVE) The truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (Rapture?)
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Please research this for yourself! Would our God really rapture people operating cars and aircraft etc. To leave others to die! What unloving God do you think He is? The bomb strapping Allah! Shame on you all! Get on path!
@utubernaut the 7 th trump you are correct but we are not included in his wrath. his chosen ones the 12 tribes of judah he will not come until his wrath is poured out we AGAIN are NOT meant for his wrath & yes those people who have not turned to him will be damed! that means we will be protected & reigning in heaven with the SON for 1000 yrs & all earth will be destroyed we will be at the MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB @ THE WEDDING. at this point because YHWH will be here leasing his wrath
@NAVYWIFEONE Yes, the Elect (Chosen) and the Remnant are not to be harmed. Not an hair on their heads. But not all are the Elect, or Remnant. They are but 144,000 plus 7,000. The rest will have to deal with the tribulation as a test of their faith. The Elect and Remnant overcame in the Rebellion in the first heaven age and did not take sides with lucifer's fall, as the 1/3 of the stars (children) who were cast to earth in the 1st earth age...That is why we are here today! Elect, or free-will..
@NAVYWIFEONE Yes, heaven and earth shall pss away, but the Word of God shall never pass. However, in the Gk. Elements= Rudiments, or evil rudiments. Meaning everything on and in the earth that is evil, or contamenating shall be destroyed...The earth shall remain until Yaheveh decides otherwise..We shall be here for at least 1000 yrs. until after the judgement of the great white throne.
@NAVYWIFEONE You apparently have not read very closely what I've said? Of course the word rapture is not in the bible! And yes is means caught up! That is not what is important. It is WHEN the Catching Away occurs! If people believe the catching away, or rapture as they call it, happens prior to the seventh trump it is fake! And the anti-christ! We are changed into the spiritual body at the Last Trump! Not at any other moment...
@mbsk3lton Very true! But what is really sad is there is NO pre-7th gathering together as rapturists believe! If Christ is coming just before the tribulation of the anti-christ they better rent a helicopter! Their flesh does'nt float like the 7th trump spiritual body! They will all go whoring after the anti-christ instead! Sad! Rapture doctrine started in 1830 Glasgow Scotland! Margaret McDonald vision..John Darby ran with it to prosper his failing church! Security blanky sell out! Shameful!
@Nygaard2 (3) Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and to them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin to salvation." James 5:8 "Be you also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draws near." 1 John 3:23 "And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment."
@Nygaard2 It never says children or those who have never heard of Jesus r damned. Romans 2 explains those who have Gods word (Jesus) written in there hearts r saved. Jesus is the 1 who sees the heart & decides whos in. But those who have heard Gods word (Jesus) & reject him will be rejected by Jesus. Can you find fault in Jesus written in the new testament? If soshow me where. If you can't then that's the point at which you say, I find no fault - if you're real show me. He'll show up somehow.
Pero dirán que fue resultado de la Nueva Era, los OVNI's o cualquier otra novelería peor... Nunca aceptaran la Verdad sino lo que les conviene o quieren oír...
What if you are born in a remote tribe in Africa and have no teachings of the Bible or never heard of the book and the only thing you knew was kill or be killed.
How would that person make it or be prepared? I am starting to believe that any religion that requires outside knowledge or some additional source that isn't inherently within ourselves is flawed. How are we to understand these things if all the books were destroyed or if we could not read?
@wariomania
i know my post won't be received well but how can you declare to believe in christ in the post containing swearwords?
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth but only that which is edifying to the grace of the hearer.
Corrupt communication corrupts your testimony.
Myhopeisinhim 1 week ago
I know God exists, I read His word but I'm not able to follow God if He doesn't work in me...I'm just a dirty sinner trying to live a good life with my family. I don't really know if there's gonna be a rapture or not...His word is spiritual so not everything will happen as we read it literally. All those who will be saved is only because of God's mercy, not because we believe or did something...I don't know and don't think I'm saved (probably later or never) all I want is: May God's will be done
kirika20 1 week ago
This Video is so GREAT!
This has to be Billion views then those NONE SENSE VIDEOS!!
We Must SHARE THIS!
I am so thankful that i have beleived and accept Jesus as my personal saviour
Roleenepierre890 1 week ago
@Roleenepierre890 Praise God! Let he who has ears hear (and believe!)
JBiebsification 1 week ago
SO THERES NO POINT IN ARGUING OVER IT!!!!
BJT337 3 weeks ago
NO MATTER WHAT PPL THINK OR SAY........THE TRUTH IS CLEAR WHEITHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT OR ACCEPT IT OR NOT.....IT IS NOT GOING TO STOP THE RAPTURE FROM HAPPENING...IT CANT AND WONT STOP FOR ANY ONE OR ANYTHING!!!!!!
BJT337 3 weeks ago
I'm sorry what day is it fucker? I'm going back to playing saints row the third you fucker. I mean I just believed in Christ as much as you do but I found a rapture full of fucking shit
Wariomania 3 weeks ago
and then all the good people of the world had it too themselves without any bigoted baptists
y2kFUNtime 3 weeks ago
I can't stop watching this ...two and a half minutes that can change your life.So much good stuff here, but I especially like the part at 01:46 where the young lady's expression changes from confusion or fear to great joy: the moment she realizes Jesus has come for her and the other believers
JBiebsification 3 weeks ago
@JBiebsification Better make that 01:44 lol
JBiebsification 3 weeks ago
Reminds me of the Samuel Becket "Waiting for Godot". The bums waiting for a mysterios guy named Godot and he never appears. Sounds similar? Me? An atheist.
Bruno53ification 4 weeks ago
@TheCrossling I dont have an answer for you about the children, but as for those who are old enough to know sin and have the understanding of accepting christ will be found guilty wether they heard of him or not. Thats why he came and died for our sins , thats why as christians we need to tell people about jesus. If what you are saying is true then we have no need to tell anyone about jesus. Read romans 1:18-20
Rockeyestand 1 month ago
CHALLANGE ACCEPTED.
Faustoteinmor 1 month ago
@Faustoteinmor Who challenged you?
rapturedpassage 1 month ago
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dj9968210 1 month ago
I actually had a dream were i saw the second coming. It was a few days ago, i was concerned about it because my dreams are normally weird or i don't remember them but this one i remember pretty clearly. I was in a museum and as i looked out of the window i saw the clouds break and in the middle of them was very bright light. Out of the light Jesus descended down to earth and Angels were encircling him as he came down. My dream ended there though. Just thought I'd share this.
GriiiiiiinD 1 month ago 2
@GriiiiiiinD In the bible, people in the near end of times will dream dreams and prophesy prophesies. I, too, have those kind of dreams.
rapturedpassage 1 month ago
@rapturedpassage
I had a rapture dream to no lie and glimpses of the rapture dream before I got the full dream. The rapture dreams never ever end here on youtube by the ways
Revansmask17 4 weeks ago
@GriiiiiiinD Just a month ago, I had a similar dream. His face was emitting light , i don't know how, but i knew it was our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ !
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@GriiiiiiinD
I also dream about second coming when months later after I got born Again, but my dreams are different Lots of angel are flying in the sky and Jesus is bigger.
I dream about it 4+ times though every dream is different to each other but there are all about second coming. I don't know why.
16striker16 1 month ago
@GriiiiiiinD
I had a rapture dream to, I saw a man holding out his arms floating in the air and shining so bright my eye pupils hurt and I saw millions upon millions of people wearing white robes flying off towards heaven from all corners of the earth from all over time gathering in one place where Christ and I were at in dream. And whew! It was alotttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt of people being caught up and I was one of them. And those left behind oh they were sorry asses.
Revansmask17 4 weeks ago
@GriiiiiiinD I actually had A dream about Rapture,too
And I Many of the Christians were raptured even me :)
Me and my family was going to the heaven and it also ended there :)
Roleenepierre890 1 week ago
Honestly, I do not care wheter it is pre-trib or mid-trib or post-trib. I do not know how far we are into Revelation. However, this i do know: Jesus is coming right away. Many people were warned in visions and dreams. We must not be asleep, but we must live for Jesus only, and we must live holy. Do not get caught up in worldliness! Jesus is coming right away! Be prepared and wait for Him. May you and I be considered worthy to be with Jesus forever.
ViDeOfee1994 1 month ago
Thank you so much for posting this video.It may not be exactly how it will happen but this is a great visual and it spreads the word of the ALMIGHT GOD. For those of you who doubt, it is not to late. Ask GOD to forgive all your sins, repent and know that Jesus is your only way. STOP LISTENING TO SATAN!! Watch those videos of those who went to hell and back. YOU DON"T WANT TO BE THERE!! you will be FOREVER CUT OFF from the almighty GOD. Read your Bible and your eyes will open, hear the truth!
hopelovelle 1 month ago 2
@hopelovelle I agree - read the Bible, with open eyes, it's the best way to cure christianity.
Nygaard2 1 month ago
@hopelovelle Thanks to you too!
rapturedpassage 1 month ago
@hopelovelle how do you repent?
krazyspartanodst 1 month ago
This is very well made. Did you make this???
And when the gospel is spread around the whole world, the end will come ^-^ So let's keep spreading the gospel!
Clxves 1 month ago
Am I prepared for what event? A christian crank-yank cartoon about biblical fantasy? Yes, I am prepared...to ridicule it openly. I am prepared to laugh at the soft-headed fanboys who watch this nonsense with wide-eyed appreciation for the "quality of the animation" and the way it "adheres to scripture." Well, this counts for pretty standard animation, and I won't tell you to what hygienic purposes I put "the scriptures." In the end, you'll leave this life just like us atheists--the hard way.
thalohalo 1 month ago
Oh my goodness, how does one prepare for such an event!?
Is the an imaginary friend i can talk to?
Perhaps there are organisations out there that i can give some of my hard earned money to.
Maybe there is book with inconsistencies, blatant lack of facts that is backed up by absolutely no evidence i can pin all my hopes and fears on!!!?
Or should i just grow the fuck up and accept that the ignorance of our ancestors necessitated the invention of gods to explain the world around them...
philthy122 1 month ago
Amen....
SinGRumPia 1 month ago
@Kelly14UK fuck you bitch
InfinityGravity12 1 month ago
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Holding to a Pre-Tribulation rapture notion is drastically weakening the Church worldwide. The Church should be preparing for spiritual battle against the most evil forces arrayed by hell. Instead, the Church is lukewarm and languishing with a false hope. This is all orchestrated by demonic powers in order to result in a limp army of believers. In this age of laxity among Christians, it does not take much on the part of the dark powers to accomplish this goal.
shiphrahhopeful 2 months ago
i love god
InfinityGravity12 2 months ago
@InfinityGravity12 That won't save you lol
Kelly14UK 2 months ago
Hey Rapture people ! - Wanna sell me all your worldly goods for a dollar ? The sale date will be the day before the next rapture occurs. Good for me : good for you !
curiousgeorge1940 2 months ago
@curiousgeorge1940 NO ONE knows when will the rapture happen so why would anyone who believes in rapture sell everything for a dollar to you. It's only good for you!
jamdajao 2 months ago
the rapture story was made up by a writer named "milton."
virgilxoxo1 2 months ago
Great movie idea! You did however forget to post the disclaimer at the end; you know, the one that reads "The events depicted in this movie are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental." I know, I know, it seems ridiculous to have to say this, but if you don't, some people may actually believe this was real! Crazy right?
red666111 2 months ago
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red666111 2 months ago
Hey! I have a great idea! Show us your god, please!
Oh, that's right, you can't, because in order to make your religion "true" you have to make it unfalsifiable. God, if he exists, is hiding behind a rock somewhere playing a sick game of hide and seek, pretending that he doesn't exist. That makes sense.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
I wish this would really fucking happen. Leave the rest of the world with people who know how to get shit done instead of wasting all that time on our knees praying to our invisible sky daddy to save us all.
NickolasLuminarty 2 months ago
@NickolasLuminarty You're so biblical!
Matthew 24:9 - "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake."
It seems you're one of those haters.
Fantasticlist 1 month ago 7
I believe in Christ and all, but come on! The people who think stuff like this will happen, are the same type of people who started the Salem witch trails.
naruto0123456780 3 months ago
We can write cause our body,our physical being, enables it.If we wouldn't have a body to carry our spirit&soul we wouldn't be able to write, wouldn't be seen neither. Same with God.You can't see Him cause He's a SPIRIT!If ppl of this world could see Him: wouldn't be enough.
Bloomy000 3 months ago
They'd want more n more proofs nd at a point, they'd just kill Him cause of their blinded mindsets. Cause ppl in general don't like things or ppl who are different then what they're used to. (Look at our world history!)God even revealed HIMSELF finally in a human body, but STILL! No matter what anyone says we already HAD this story, still not enough for all the haters, unfortunately.God needs a physical body to show himself.That's y He uses ppl.
Bloomy000 3 months ago
Question: When will the Rupture COME?
Answer: After the Great Tribulation and Be READY for the coming of GREAT TRIBULATION- Matthew 24:21
Question:What will happen to those people remains in the earth?
Answer: All people in Christ shall reign with Him a 1,000 years and GOD give them to those remains in the EARTH to confess their SIN to GOD in 1,000 years,- 1 Timothy 2:4 but IF the 1,000 years Begin, Satan will be released from his prison to deceive people-Revelation 20:4-8
psalm1992 3 months ago
1,No one know when. 2. It will come and those that are left behind will not see Christ taken his shiip but see it as an attack of some kind of wepon. Ya notice there is nothing after 2. Why? Because I'll not be here to be part if it. FOR I CLAIM JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND SAVOR. AMEN.
tock101 4 months ago
Am I prepared? Lol wrong question.
If all the Christians get raptured into heaven I'll throw a party and you are all invited. We can finally fix this world.
Embrigh 4 months ago
animation was ok. the art was pretty good and I like the sci-fi story going on. Is this a demo of a project your doing? The teaser is pretty good, my guess is it's aliens or something like that.
SethSlone 4 months ago
/watch?v=MOKMl57WtK0&feature=feedlik
I'm ready for the zombie jew!
RebelFactor4Life 4 months ago
What I hate about the righteous is that they're so fucking "righteous". Its all bullshit, can't people see that?
8698gil 4 months ago
@8698gil There are no RIGHTEOUS peole
rapturedpassage 4 months ago 4
@rapturedpassage yea, this is exactly what many republican HOPE will happen.
they fuck up the planet, than say "look how fucked up the planet is, the rapute must be near", and in thier hearts, they really do hope that they'll be "saved", or else, they'll have to look into thier grandkids eyes and explaine to them why the planet is so fucked up.
even if there is a raputer, live your life as if you're going to have to live here for another 100 years.
leave this planet in a better shape
eyallev 4 months ago
@rapturedpassage yeah you are right.....
gingerbreadgirl5000 3 months ago
@gingerbreadgirl5000 Thanks!
rapturedpassage 3 months ago
is a sweet dream... may be a lie mey be not... but sweet very sweet...
DustynRock 4 months ago
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How sad to think that there are people who believe in these things...ridiculous XDXDXD
HirisMetal 4 months ago
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HirisMetal 4 months ago
@HirisMetal Not just exactly the way it was represented.
rapturedpassage 4 months ago
@TheNeeCeeg Oh, I see. So this has nothing to do with good or bad people, just those who are willing to submit to authority and those who do not?
Your version of god makes him sound so insecure... sort of like a big teenage bully who tries to make everybody in his gang like him, and beats them up if they don't. And the raputere is when he's got tickets to a movie, but you can only come if you call him the leader.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 No its really more like...There was this guy (Jesus) and he did everything right and wanted us to live as closely to his way as possible. There are those who reject his way and those that don't. So its really up to you. Look into Christ Jesus. Christians are not perfect but Christ was. Don't follow Christians, follow Christ as best you can. It's simply our job to tell you about him. Sincerely I really want God to bless of you. Take care.
TheCrossling 4 months ago
@TheCrossling Of course the truth is that there was this Jewish cult leader who some believed to be good others did not. Then later people wrote stories about this leader, adding a little magic here and there to make it even better, and non-Jews began to hear about him. Then a Roman emperor saw the interest in making a unified religion that would bind his empire closer together and ordered the jesus followers to agree on a holy text. Of course Jeshua might have been a good, I'll grant you that.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Please read the first 4 gospels, same story 4 different ways. I now skip over the "magic" when I read. because you're right, we can't prove any of that. It's not the miracles its what he said and did that make me believe. He could be a little harsh at times. If I (personally) were to make up a story about God on earth he would be more perfect in every way. The story is to detailed and human to be fake. Also, the letters from Paul and the others are way way to detailed to be fake.
TheCrossling 4 months ago
@TheCrossling I have, I teach christianity. What's your point about the "same" story being told 4 different ways? There are nothing amazing about that, that's how oral traditions work when they are being written down. How's Paul's letters "too detailed" to be fake? (I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean).
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 You're right-on about the oral traditions. The Gospels would seem fake if all were choreographed. However, since they are not perfect, they are more credible. The theory is they have an original written source (quelle) & oral history played telephone with them. As to Paul: the way he writes is very detailed & sometimes even boring. Often portions of the letters are responses to questions or references to things that happened which only the intentioned reader(s) & he might know about.
TheCrossling 1 month ago
It's a deathcult. How anybody in good conscience could wish to be raptured when there are still people who won't be, is beyond me. I'd think that any good person would want to help out those not saved instead of going off to the desert-god's spaceship.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Its not about GOODNESS. Its about RIGHTEOUSNESS!
rapturedpassage 4 months ago
@rapturedpassage So, according to your beliefs, there's no point being a good person, right ?
synsei1 4 months ago
@rapturedpassage Oh... Gotcha. Righteousness. Well then, rapture away. I'm sure there are millions of non-christian children who deserves to be punished for not accepting god.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 My friend, true believers are told by God to warn people in Ezekiel 3:18.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Oh, well if god tells true believers to warn us, then he should just go ahead and kill those who doubt, it's not like people should have a free choice... Free will, sure. Free choice to live in peace in the world the little desert deity supposedly created, nope. Sorry. How about those who believe live in the kingdom of heaven and the rest of us could be left to our own devise? Wouldn't that be just as good?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 1timothy 2:4-6 "Who will have [desires] all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."
2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but all should come to repentance. "
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton So we should all repent for our original sin (which was basically due to bad gardening by the hebrew desert god) and then he'll be happy. What's the point then?
It seems to me you can't have all people be saved if this raputere thing is about righteousness, and at the same time wish for all to be saved. So if I'm a wicked man, having led a wicked life, but hears about jesus and converts, then I'm good, but if I'm a little child and miss the news I'm damned? Doesn't seem right to me.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 we should all repent because we realize we are sinners and Christ provided an escape from hell by dying on the cross- and if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God and God raised Jesus from the dead three days after He was crrucifed you will be saved. When the rapture comes kids that are too young to know the difference between right and wrong will be raptured. Jesus is your escape route. We are in the end times- Jesus will battle the world's armies at Armageddon. Choose Jesus.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Where does it say that in the bible? That kids will be ok? So basically learning the difference between right and wrong is what makes us sinful... Well perhaps god should have made us without brains instead. And exactly what army would he be fighting?
How about thinking this through a little better before believing it?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Have you thought this through? If children who don't know the difference between right and wrong are saved, isn't that proof that the original sin is a lie? It's ORIGINAL - so it shouldn't be ignored simply because of age, should it? Unless of course Yeshua fixed it all with his death... in which case there's really no need for a rapture. And why would the world's armies fight Yeshua if he came back?
I chose to live life now, instead of going around longing for death, thank you.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 my nephews were stillborn and are in heaven. Yes I have thought things through and my final answer is Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior died for all of us whether you believe it or not. I believe in the Almighty God who created the world in 6 days, and who knew you and I before He created the world. His word, the Bible, is full of warnings to turn to Him. There is no other way to enter heaven except you repent and believe in Jesus Christ and confessing Him as Savior.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton But my nieces who died in a car crash at the age of 8 and 10 are now in hell? Or how old do you have to be to be old enough to chose what to believe? I'm just astonished at how evil it is. And I'm seriously astonished at the black-mail quality of it all. We are not supposed to look to the little desert god for wisdom or peace of mind, we are supposed to subject to him OR ELSE! Don't you see how primitive and tribal it sounds?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 are you a little child? Why worry about OTHER people when its YOU who will stand before God on judgment day giving account for EVERY word? Nobody else can stand in for you on that day. Ok...you choose to live but if you have an accident and die tomorrow that's not really living cuz without Christ people go to hell. With Christ - you REALLY live! My friend, this life is only a precursor to ETERNAL life- heaven or hell. Its your soul and I hope you choose heaven, friend.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Did you seriously just ask why I worry about other people? Aside from the fact that eternal life is not something I'd wish, how can ever enjoy heaven knowing that other people are in hell? In such a case either god's little experiment failed, or the christians who were supposed to bring the message failed. Not exactly something I would enjoy if I believed.
I think the judgement thing is the weakest part of christianity.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Yes I did seriously ask you. Do you sit in your car at a stop light and worry about someone walking across the street if they are going to hell? You say that the christians who were supposed to bring the message failed, but see, YOU heard the message and you are NOW without excuse. You'll stand before God Almighty and you will remember this conversation. If you REPENT and BELIEVE in Jesus Christ, you will miss hell! You don't want to go there!
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Sure, I'll remember to mention you tried when I chat with him, I'm sure it'll buy you a better seat at the captain's dinner (or whatever they call it in heaven :P )
The problem is, you can't just "believe" in something. Either you are convinced by evidence or you are not. I'm not convinced by stories from ancient desert tribes, I prefer evidence and truth. I'm not concerned about me - like I said earlier I'm more concerned about these fantasies scarring kids and young minds.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Its natural
rapturedpassage 4 months ago
@rapturedpassage What's natural?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Its natural why you're acting and thinking like that. I was like you before.
rapturedpassage 4 months ago
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@rapturedpassage What changed your mind?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." My faith rests with God Almighty who sent His Son to die for us. You say "either you are conviced by evidence..." How does a blind person see the truth if he can't see Christ? How does a deaf person hear the truth, if he cant hear the truth? 2 Corinthians 5:7 "(For we walk by faith, not by sight:) Romans 10:17 "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton So basically you don't care whether what you believe is true or not - you just have faith? And I can't see christ, not because he's been dead 2011+ years, but because I'm blind? But if I had heard the word of the jewish desert god I would have faith? But I have, and it sounds like a lot of old texts bundled together in the 4th century. It doesn't at all sound like the words of a divine being. Have you read other religious texts? They are strangely similar in many ways.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Oh, my Jesus is REAL. Yes you are spiritually blind and deaf because your heart is hard and cold. Now you talk about a Jewish desert god....I will answer with the word of God- the final authority 1 Corinthians 14:38 "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant."
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton How can you know about my heart? We've been passing back and forth a couple of comments on the internet and you think you know me? I thought your god was the only judge of that? And you call me ignorant?
And you are quoting the bible as proof? You are putting your life into the hands of ancient superstition, clearly made up (that doesn't mean it's all bad, but it's certainly not real) - who's ignorant?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 I dont know your heart- I am not judging you. But based on the questions you ask me and the false doctrine you're trying to pass onto me, that is ignorance. 1 Corinthians 14:38 "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant." Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him b unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton I'm not trying to pass ANY doctrine on to you - doctrine is the problem. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't go around peddling scary stories about death and damnation to kids and naive people. Telling people that the rapture and hell is "real" is just wicked. Why don't you concentrate on the nice parts of christianity? If this had been about how nice things are in heaven I'd probably just smiled and moved on.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 (1) Peddling is defined as going door to door to SELL something. Im dont want your money. I want you to know the TRUTH! Jesus Himself preached MORE about hell than heaven. Wonder why? TO WARN!! The Rapture is real, hell is real, heaven is real and your life on this earth is ONLY a puff of smoke, here now but gone later which vanishes into eternal life: heaven or hell. Oh yes, lets do what the devil wants and please everyone and not WARN people about hell- lets not warn about hell
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 (2) because nygaard2 has a big problem with it. Let s not warn because Satan doesnt want people to know the truth! I declared war on satan and his demons and therefore you can step aside because I will not be a fool to your folly. You dont understand that there are angels and demons fighting for your soul, to see which side will get your soul. Now, if you would open your eyes and ears you could begin to understand, because if you dont repent and believe in Christ you WILL be left
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 (3) behind to suffer the wrath of God. I wouldnt want to be in your shoes to deny God and call him a desert god- where do you get that anyway- a coloring book? Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." When you understand all people have sinned and need forgiveness and you repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ, who died for you on the cross and God raised Him from the dead three days later,
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
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@mbsk3lton Sorry, I have to comment on this one as well: " I wouldnt want to be in your shoes to deny God and call him a desert god- where do you get that anyway- a coloring book?"
Are you denying that your god was the god of a desert tribe known as the Jews, before it was morphed into christianity by the 1st council of Nicaea? You now that he's henotheistic in the old testament, right? Otherwise why would he be so afraid of other gods?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 940 your name will be written in the book of Life. Whose names WILL be written in the book of life? Not sinners (Exodus 32:33), not those who worship the Antichrist (Revelation 13:8), not those who are tricked by the Antichrist's fake resurrection (Revelation 17:8), but OVERCOMERS (Revelation 3:5) FELLOW LABORERS OF THE GOSPEL (Philippians 4:3) Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment." Do you know where you are going?
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 (5) [940] was supposed to say [(4)] Can I direct you towards Jesus? Can I show you where to look for your Creator, who spoke the world into existence, and who sent His only begotten Son to be a ransom for many? Can I tell you the truth, or would you rather be taken in by a lie? Can I help your eyes to open spiritually and your ears as well? Can I point you towards the narrow and straight path which leads to the kingdom of heaven? Will you trust Jesus Christ as your Savior?
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Sorry, I'd wish I could open YOUR eyes. You keep referring to the bible as if it had any truth value in itself. But it's a construction of man, even if you wanted to claim some supernatural being as the creator, the fact remains that the bible is a constructed piece of literature. So while some people claim one thing about the bible, others claim another. You are aware that many believing christians don't believe in the rapture, right?
Have you ever read other religious texts?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Now you tell me WHO told you that the bible was written by man? C'mon- tell me- who put that lie in your head? Yes I am aware a lot of people do not believe in the rapture. Some of these people call themselves 'christians' but really they did not repent, so they will be going to hell too. The bible is the truth.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton Your proof the bible is true is a quote from the bible? As an example of who told me here's one: Go listen to iTunes U - "Historical Jesus" by Thomas Sheehan. He's even believer, but it doesn't stop him from using critical thinking (they are out of order on iTunes - so listen to "Call Me Yeshua" first).
And saying the bible is truth doesn't make it so. Besides your interpretation could be wrong, couldn't it? Or is modesty and humility not part of christianity any longer?
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 I quote you "He's even believer but it doesnt stop him from using critical thinking"...so on Judgment Day he stands before God, and as YOU say he's even a believer but also critically thinks" According to the word of God, he just canceled himself out. When the bible, who was written by inspiration from my God, says all scripture is given by inspiration of God it makes the bible GOD'S WORD. There is nothing you can say to make me change my mind.
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton What? You are not allowed to THINK? And why wouldn't you change your mind? If you said something that seemed overwhelmingly likely or made sense I would believe you. That's how it works - people convince other people with arguments. Saying you don't want to change your mind "no matter what" is pretty childish, wouldn't you say?
But hey - I don't really care what you believe, I don't know you and I'm sure you are a good man. Be well, and don't worry about the afterlife, live now.
Nygaard2 4 months ago
@Nygaard2 Colossians 2:6-8 "As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk you in Him: Rooted and built up in Him, and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through pholosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
mbsk3lton 4 months ago
@mbsk3lton I'm really sorry your faith doesn't allow you to listen to other people's opinions. The version of christianity you are presenting seems very dark and diminishing, don't you see?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 the version of Christianity I'm presenting ...? Ephesians 4:5 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism."
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton Sure, I get that. It's the christian version of: "There is no god except for the God alone." - and you more or less said the Shahada as well: "to know and believe without suspicion, as if witnessed". So you share your belief with almost a billion muslims. That doesn't make it true. They have a holy book as well, it's infallible as well, it even claims to have the same god as the bible. How can you show they are wrong?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 I am not a Muslim - I am a born again, true believer in Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God! Muslims worship false gods. Ephesians 4:5 "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." Muslims' Allah.is NOT God and Muslims have a prophet- Muhammad. Muhammad is still in his grave, but Jesus Christ rose from the dead by the power of God. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton Listen, I'm not trying to say you are muslim, I was merely trying to show to you how weak your argument for belief is. Basically you are just claiming to be right because you are right. Just like many other religions are. But there ARE arguments for christianity or general theism that can be considered valid in a discussion. But standing in a corner saying "I'm right because I'm right, and the bible is true 'cause the bible says it's true isn't an argument worthy of consideration.
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 2 Corinthians 12:10 "...for when I am weak, then am I strong."
2 Corinthians 13:8 "For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth."
Galatians 5:7 "...who did hinder you that you should not obey the truth?"
Galatians 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton Right... I'll say this again: you can't quote the bible to prove the veracity of the bible... It just doesn't work in the real world. I'm almost sad we can't have this discussion post-mortem :)
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 1 Peter 2:15 "For so is the will of God, that with well doing you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men."
1 John 1:5 "This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare to you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all."
1 John 2:17 "And the world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of God abides for ever."
God bless!
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton So... I'm the foolish man? (You might be right there, I'll leave others to judge) There's no darkness in god? (I think you are very wrong there, the rapture is a good example, so is hell), but those who believe (I pressume you think that includes you) will hang around for ever? Sounds awefully boring.
Answer me this: How come nobody ever think THEY are going to hell?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 2 Peter 2:1-2 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall evil be spoken of."
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton So how do you know the false prophets and teachers from the right ones? Let me guess: You just know! Because somehow, you interpret those old texts correctly and everyone else are wrong...
Tsk, tsk, tsk, sounds like pride to me. You know pride used to be a sin in some crazy old religion from the Middle East somewhere.
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 I can't be full of pride, I care enough to tell you the truth and to understand that God loves you enough that He sent Jesus to die for you and everyone else. That's not pride- that's caring enough to warn you.
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton I told you, consider your duty fulfilled when it comes to me. You warned me about the cruel punishment and ultimatum of your god, and the "reward" of an eternity of serfdom in an equally unpleasant heaven.
What I'm so astonished about is your ability to be certain about your claims. You say it's not pride, ok then - how about a little humility. Isn't it possible that you are wrong, and other christian denominations are correct?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 so you want me to humble myself by declaring that its "possible that I am wrong"? Thats not humility. Where you are WRONG is you put heaven as "reward of an eternity of serfdom in an equally unpleasant heaven" on the same page as "cruel punishment and ultimatum of my God". Heaven and hell arent the same thing. What exactly is the issue you have? Yes I have given you the message, I am free and clear of your blood (and everyone else who has been following along).
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton Sure, I might be wrong. But if heaven is a physical place described by many christians, it's not a place I want to spend eternity. And as a matter of fact this whole "eternal life" seems rather uninteresting. Why should we want that?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 You have a soul that will not die. Your soul can see, hear, think, and feel. Your soul is YOU, not your physical body, but YOU. Your soul is reading this message- it is YOU. Now, when your PHYSICAL body dies, your SOUL lives on- but where? There are two places= heaven or hell. Like I have mentioned, your PHYSICAL life here is ONLY a PRECURSOR to eternal life. YOU are HERE for a reason. God put YOU here to accomplish something. What is it?
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 (2)You say youre so stonished that my ability to be certain about my claims. First of, its the word of God, the Creator who made everyone and everything, who am I to speak against God? Second its called FAITH- the unshaken, the unwavering, the undeniable faith in my Lord and Savior, so seeing as I follow the word of God, no I can't be wrong- in the mindset of I know who my God is and He knows me, I believe He is the Creator and He loves me.
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton (2) But you are not getting your belief from god, you are getting it from an old book written, translated, edited, collected, translated again, edited again, by MEN.
Second, faith might make you unwawering in your belief in what-ever you have faith in, that's the definition of the word, but that's not a proof that what-ever you believe in is true. Especially since many, many people have sincere and heartfelt beliefs that are contradictory to yours. So faith is not a proof of truth.
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 When you put your pants on, you zip it up, right? You do that automatically, right? No thought about it, right? Same thing with faith. You have FAITH because you BELIEVE when you zip up your zipper, it will zip up, no questions asked. But remember this: there are two people watching you, every move you make, seeing things you would rather nobody know about. They are fighting to see who gets your soul. You question me because you dont see nor do you hear the way I do.
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 2 TImothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God..." Romans 10:17 "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but to us which we are saved it is the power of God."
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 "Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorrumptible, and we shall be changed." 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world [satan] has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine to them. "
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton What are you trying to say by quoting the Corinthians? Are you admitting that your god is not all that powerful after all? Or that the glorious gospel of christ might not be as impressive as it claims to be?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 refers to the changing of our bodies from physical to spiritual, instantly when the 7th trumpet sounds. 2 Corinthians 4:4 talks about how satan has blinded people that do not believe in Jesus Christ, so that they [people blinded by satan] become stubborn and have hard hearts and refuse the gospel of Christ.
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton Satan, eh... Do you want to explain what he's doing here? I thought this was a monotheistic religion, the trinity excluded. And I guess that his message most be very strong to fool so many people. Seriously - isn't one murdering god enough - do you have to drag another one into the mix?
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 Satan was once an angel of God. Satan became jealous of God and wanted to be above God. Satan gathered up some followers in heaven and God kicked Satan and his followers out of heaven. Satan knows he and his followers will be thrown in hell and because mankind is made in the image of God, Satan is going to try to drag as many as he can down with him. His biggest tool is placing doubt in God and His word. This is obvious in the doubt that you display.
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@mbsk3lton *sigh* Are you aware how silly that story sounds? And illogical. Why would your god not simply remove satan, instead of promoting him? Why is he needed? If man has free will to chose or not chose to follow the gospel, how does your god look at people who have been decieved? Then it's not really their own choice, is it?
And how can you be sure you haven't been duped by satan? I mean, you believe in the rapture, which sounds like an evil event satan would make up.
Nygaard2 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 Thats because it was an evil vision of satan, given to a woman named Margaret McDonald in Glasgow Scotland 1830! She even later admitted it to her Pastor, John Darby, who ran with it regardless, to fill his money plates! It has turned into one of the biggest deceptions in Christian history! Not biblical, just pitiful! Everyone who believes in the Pre-Trib rapture, or gathering will fall for the first false Christ who appears at the 6th trump! The anti-christ! True Christ comes at 7th!
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut So even this rapture shit is another Scottish invention? Not one of our better ones was it?
Kelly14UK 2 months ago
@Kelly14UK (ONE) Lol! No! I guess not, being of scottish red-head descent myself! Lmao! Back in the early 90's in my quest for possible truth! I had been in ongoing research, but of avid interest in a huge sell of a book called " The Late Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lyndsey..Quite convincing book on the rapture doctrine! Believed it myself, not being at the time near as biblically literate as today, it had got me hook, line and sinker! Then one night coming home from work second shift! >>>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (TWO) I sat in my lazy chair and turned on the tube! Did not even surf what to watch, just an instant thing! A man sitting at a desk, reading with captions at lower screen from the KJV. The Book of I Thessalonians. The rapture Chapter! Only he was blasting it as a falacy..And explained it well! I was at first offended! I was going to challenge him! But first I had to see everything he had for documentation? Christians of the time thought Paul to mean that Christ would return in that>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (THREE) Day..And by 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Them, meaning Christ and those who have died in Christ will come back with Him. Ecclesiates 12:6-7. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord! Your not still in a hole in the ground in other words..This is the important part of the false doctrine concerning I Thes. 4:17! Those who are>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (FOUR) Alive and remain... What really happens? And at what TIME? First, in the clouds? Literal clouds? Or as Paul says in Hebrews 12:1 A CLOUD of witnesses! This means a magnitude, or many! Many what? People! Caught up in a magnitude of people..O.k. now air! Hmmm! Literal air? Or air as in breathe? As in breath of life? What was breathed into the formed body of Adam? The Holy Spirit! Which brought life into his body! So what are we saying here? Lets go to I Corinthians 15:52-54 >
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (FIVE) And it says.1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. What is it that changes us into our spiritual body, for those of us who are alive and remain? The breath of life, or Ruach= Holy spirit, wind, air! Yes! And at what time does this occur? Important ! Listen to what God's word declares friends! This is the real clincher that should make all think!>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (SIX) AT WHAT TIME DOES IT SAY TIS WILL OCCUR? At the last TRUMP! Does anyone know when the anti-christ comes and when Yahshua the real Christ comes? Well, lets document that scripturally! Lets go to.. nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day shall not come first? The coming of our >
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (SEVEN) Lord Jesus Christ! So who does it say does come first? The apostacy of the church, or falling away from truth, and then the Son of Perdition! And who is that? Why it is satan himself! Undisputable fact by Paul himself in his second letter to the Thessalonian people, correcting them on the misunderstanding of his first letter to them! So what is the deception that will befall all those who believe in the satanic rapture doctrine? An 1830 vision by a Scottish woman of Glasgow>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (EIGHT) Scotland who's Pastor took it and ran with it to fill his money plates! A book by Dave McPhearson, "The Rapture Secret". She later claimed it to be of an err of darkness that befell her..Back to the deception.. If Christ is coming at the Last Trump, or Seventh Trump and it say's that the Son Of Perdition comes before Him, as you just read from II Thes 2:3..Read the whole chapter! Then when does the anti-christ come? The Fifth and Sixth Trump! Rev.12:4 and 9:1! Does it really>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut Say anywhere that Christ is coming BEFORE this 5th, or 6th Trump! NO! I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise! And having once been a rapture believer myself! Beware! Lol! I know them all, and will continue till your conquered in defeat! Lol! So! Who are the rapture believer's going to think the first one to come is? Why, Jesus come to rapture them away! VERY DANGEROUS test of your biblical literacy, FOR LISTENING TO MAN telling you what to believe! And they are FALSE TEACHER'S!
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (TEN) One more documentation! Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Now, what angel sounded? The 7th! And this is the LAST Trump! The world has just become the kingdom of our LORD! He has COME! At this trump! NONE Prior! And you have at this moment also recieved your spiritual body in I Cor 15:52 at what trump?>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (ELEVEN) At the Last Trump, which is the 7th Trump! There you have it folks! DO NOT listen to the traditions of MAN, but listen to the WORD of God! We are NOT worthy to be taken from the Tribulation of the anti-christ! But instead, heed these words in closing! 2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of>
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut (TWELVE) The truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (Rapture?)
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Please research this for yourself! Would our God really rapture people operating cars and aircraft etc. To leave others to die! What unloving God do you think He is? The bomb strapping Allah! Shame on you all! Get on path!
utubernaut 2 months ago
@utubernaut the 7 th trump you are correct but we are not included in his wrath. his chosen ones the 12 tribes of judah he will not come until his wrath is poured out we AGAIN are NOT meant for his wrath & yes those people who have not turned to him will be damed! that means we will be protected & reigning in heaven with the SON for 1000 yrs & all earth will be destroyed we will be at the MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB @ THE WEDDING. at this point because YHWH will be here leasing his wrath
NAVYWIFEONE 1 month ago
@NAVYWIFEONE Yes, the Elect (Chosen) and the Remnant are not to be harmed. Not an hair on their heads. But not all are the Elect, or Remnant. They are but 144,000 plus 7,000. The rest will have to deal with the tribulation as a test of their faith. The Elect and Remnant overcame in the Rebellion in the first heaven age and did not take sides with lucifer's fall, as the 1/3 of the stars (children) who were cast to earth in the 1st earth age...That is why we are here today! Elect, or free-will..
utubernaut 1 month ago
@NAVYWIFEONE Yes, heaven and earth shall pss away, but the Word of God shall never pass. However, in the Gk. Elements= Rudiments, or evil rudiments. Meaning everything on and in the earth that is evil, or contamenating shall be destroyed...The earth shall remain until Yaheveh decides otherwise..We shall be here for at least 1000 yrs. until after the judgement of the great white throne.
utubernaut 1 month ago
@utubernaut JESUS says that we will be "CAUGHT UP" he never said raptured the rapture is literally a lie it isn't in the bible ANYWHERE
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blessings
NAVYWIFEONE 1 month ago
@NAVYWIFEONE You apparently have not read very closely what I've said? Of course the word rapture is not in the bible! And yes is means caught up! That is not what is important. It is WHEN the Catching Away occurs! If people believe the catching away, or rapture as they call it, happens prior to the seventh trump it is fake! And the anti-christ! We are changed into the spiritual body at the Last Trump! Not at any other moment...
utubernaut 1 month ago
@mbsk3lton Very true! But what is really sad is there is NO pre-7th gathering together as rapturists believe! If Christ is coming just before the tribulation of the anti-christ they better rent a helicopter! Their flesh does'nt float like the 7th trump spiritual body! They will all go whoring after the anti-christ instead! Sad! Rapture doctrine started in 1830 Glasgow Scotland! Margaret McDonald vision..John Darby ran with it to prosper his failing church! Security blanky sell out! Shameful!
utubernaut 2 months ago
@Nygaard2 (3) Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and to them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin to salvation." James 5:8 "Be you also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draws near." 1 John 3:23 "And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment."
mbsk3lton 3 months ago
@Nygaard2 It never says children or those who have never heard of Jesus r damned. Romans 2 explains those who have Gods word (Jesus) written in there hearts r saved. Jesus is the 1 who sees the heart & decides whos in. But those who have heard Gods word (Jesus) & reject him will be rejected by Jesus. Can you find fault in Jesus written in the new testament? If soshow me where. If you can't then that's the point at which you say, I find no fault - if you're real show me. He'll show up somehow.
TheCrossling 1 month ago
@Nygaard2 Who said anything about killing anyone?
TheCrossling 1 month ago
Pero dirán que fue resultado de la Nueva Era, los OVNI's o cualquier otra novelería peor... Nunca aceptaran la Verdad sino lo que les conviene o quieren oír...
AndhresCAELI 4 months ago
what bullshit
hotplayer2u 4 months ago 2
@hotplayer2u The RAPTURE word does not exist ion the BIBLE. But the scene you've seen was written.
rapturedpassage 4 months ago
What if you are born in a remote tribe in Africa and have no teachings of the Bible or never heard of the book and the only thing you knew was kill or be killed.
How would that person make it or be prepared? I am starting to believe that any religion that requires outside knowledge or some additional source that isn't inherently within ourselves is flawed. How are we to understand these things if all the books were destroyed or if we could not read?
Instinct1H 4 months ago 2