yes, a man died in the ring against max. and max had nightmares and issues about it the rest of his life. made him look like he was proud of it in the movie. nothing could have been further from the truth from what i've read. joe and max. two really class acts. just like floyd mayweather and his family are. LOL.. and i'm not just talkin about the sucker punch. yep, he got head butted. but was that the best way for the self proclaimed best fighter in the world to take care of it..?
Max Baer with his arm around Joe Louis. Classic. Considering how controversial a thing like that would have been way back in 1940, it speaks volumes for his integrity to just go ahead and do it anyway. Now that's class, ladies and gentlemen. Class act all the way. Thanks for posting. This was a real treat.
Interesting to see Lou Costello interviewing Max and Joe. Lou (under the name 'Lou King') was an amateur boxer until his father found out and put a stop to it.
I met Max Baer when I was just a kid, at the Uptown Theatre in Richmond, CA. He was involved in some kind of fund raiser. Also, I remember in the early days of tv in the Bay Area, Max would be on all-night telethons, like Jerry Lewis does. He would be with tears in his eyes. He seemed like a great guy, and obviously very emotional at times..... I thought he was somebody very special.
Wow, what a pleasure to see, Mayweather and the likes disgust me, we need Boxing brought back to when they shook hands at weigh in's, not all this show biz crap, all hype today, its wrong.
I think Max Baer Jr (his son) sued Ron Howard because of the way his dad was portrayed in the movie. Max Baer Jr. was Jethro in the TV show The Beverly Hillibilies
Joe Louis was the best of his era and possibly any era. He didn't have the out-of-the-ring distractions Tyson had, or Tyson could have laid claim to that statement.
@MrBumboclart You may be right on that one because I can't see a reason for that first fight loss. The second Schmeling fight was great! My grandfather worked crowd control at that second fight in Yankee Stadium, and he actually escorted Babe Ruth ringside to see it!
I agree Max Baer was a decent guy and a gent, Jim Braddock was also a gent, this shows with their respect for each other and being able to seperate the boxing from the personality from each other.
Ron Howard was so wrong in making Max Baer look like a bad guy, what was he thinking? The film aside from that was excellent, it didn't need a 'Rocky' style good guy vs bad guy plot.
I enjoyed the movie Cinderella man and thought James Braddock was a man of character. However I hated the way Max Baer was portrayed in that movie.Ron Howard portrayed Max as a sadistic jerk.Every interview or film clip of Barr I read or watched makes me think he was a fun loving person with a great sense of humor.
Max Bear is Buried or should i say in a Wall , St. Marys Cemetary Sacramento , California. I pass thru there one day after school , as a Kid and Boxing Fan I went to the Cementary to see Max Bear. at the Time i was fighting for the Sheriff yolo Atheltic league West Sacramento in 1975 i was 14 at the Time. I was Dissapointed also on how they Made Max Bear to be in the Cinderella Man MOvie.
@nicktagrandmere That is so true. I remember the first time I saw moving images of WW2 in colour - it shocked me. I thought that war was a black and white war. LOL.
Max Baer was funny til the end. When he got chest pains from the heart attack that would kill him, he called the front desk of the hotel asking to send a doctor. The asked him if he wanted the Hotel doctor; Baer said "I want a people doctor!"
that is what sport is all about - you want to kill your opponent in the ring/game but when it's over you're friends, shake hands, have a drink.. brilliant clip
@hullcityafc72 yup but trouble is that in boxing you really do kill your opponent sometimes,or seriously injure him.boxing is a tough tough dangerous sport.i really respect pro boxers.
Terrific, isn't it ? He was such a contradiction. One minute he's groomed, suited, and seemingly unapproachable in his glamour, the next he's dirty and sweaty and a regular Joe you want to have a drink with !
This is so good to see. Thanks for posting it, MaxiesGal. The genuine affection that Max has for Joe is so charmingly apparent here. Joe's expression also reflects what looks like deep contentment to me. This was 1940. At that time it was far outside the norm for a white man to display affection like this for a black man, especially out in the open. But, Max never considered the norm it seems - especially when it came to friendship. Sweet confession: This clip made me love Max.
what a true sportsmen they use to be ,you cant see it nowaday , and what a gentelman baer was , and they portrayed maxie as an animal in the cinderela man movie,i watched all of baer fights and he always treated his opponent with respect, that s.o.b ron howard who made that movie should be ashamed of himself.
@teymani, absolutely spot-on about Ron Howard's ridiculous portrayal of Max Baer. Max was The Clown Prince of Boxing, not the sullen character in The Cinderella Man. Max should have been portrayed as he was...as a man who had all of the attributes to be a long-last world champion, except for one thing: dedication to training and singularity of purpose. Braddock was the guy who took full advantage of his meager attributes and became a winner through hard work and keen focus. Howard blew it.
@teymani in the DVD commentators he said he didnt know the man the executive producers suggested making Baer more meaneir and intimidating to fit the down on his luck style story. He did apologize on the commentaries saying he wasn't a boxing fan and if he knew Max better he wouldnt of done it that way.
Just wanted to let Maxie's fans know that, based on some family history info I provided to the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, Max Baer will be among its inductees for 2010.
Baer was such a class act. In a time when white folks were still reluctant and cautious about being friendly to Blacks, Max was so genuine and caring...as was Louis toward Max. A Beautiful sight over 70 years ago.
Sighhhhhh ... I hear ya ... I know the times weren't all rosy, but they certainly seemed to have a special glow about them that doesn't exist today...
Nice. Baer was the Clown Prince of boxing, a character the likes of which you don't see in sports nowadays. Of course the movie made him a monster to accentuate the contrast with the saintly Braddock and make the latter more heroic. People need to realise that he actually quit after the Campbell fight and only came back after extensive counselling by Dempsey et al. He also ensured Campbell's widow was OK financially and put their children through college.
Yeah he was really hard done by in that film. He and Braddock had a lot of mutual respect, remember how they hugged after the actual fight? I doubt whether braddock himself would have been happy with that film because of how they treated Baer.
@miltondemagnifique that's just Hollywood...it has to be "good vs. bad"...or I guess after 30 years of WWE or however long it's been, the concept that maybe both Braddock and Baer were two good people engaged in a sporting competition would be "boring"...with no "edge" to it...in the interests of drama they had to create a situation where the nice guy who loves his family and is trying to provide for them goes up against this arrogant, smirking, murderous monster...just to make it a better story
As I discovered, and wrote about on my Max Baer website: Neither Max Baer nor Jack Dempsey "put Frankie's children through school" or "sent three of Frankie's children to Norte Dame" though if Elsie Camilli had asked they surely would have helped her. Only Frankie Jr. survived to early adulthood, but chose to attend West Point. An archivist at Notre Dame University confirmed to me nobody with variations of the names "Frank Camilli" or "Frank Campbell" has ever attended their University.
"The interviewer" is the late great Lou Costello. One half of the greatest comedy duos of all time. Search youtube for Who's on first and you'll be hooked.
Me too Mak, I was born about a century too late. Some would say, 'well you wouldn't have this and that", but I wouldn't have known these things to miss them in the first place ...
You can clearly see the mutual respect and affection Max Baer and Joe Louis had for each other. Louis being there as a friend, Baer wrapping his arm around Louis and giving him a playful nod with the head. No unfriendlyness at all. You couldn't meet nicer fellas, I would have intrusted my kids to both of them. Priceless stuff!
That's not true citizenjosefk. If you watch boxing on the regular, then you would see it all the time. In fact, I always wondered why fighters showed so much respect and affection after a fight. Mike Tyson would kiss some of his opponents after almost knocking their heads off. I think it's confusing you because of the era, which I can understand. One wouldn't expect to see that type of thing in the 1930's.
Beautiful, thanks MaxiesGal! It sure was a different era back then. The warmth and affection of the fighters is remarkable, you wouldn't see that today between two guys who are going to fight. These guys have a class and dignity, a respect for their station in life, a self respect that few fighters today possess. Two legends, good stuff. Wish we could return to the old rules and ways of boxing when the sport was raw and unapologetic in its substance, but classy in its bearing.
i watched Cinderella Man in my class cuz we were reading the novel "The Contender" and the closest movie to that book was Cinderella Man and ever since i've loved the movie.
It's sad the way Cinderella Man made Max look like such a ass, he really wasn't that way. He was a fierce competitor but outside the ring was a genuinely nice man. It's true he killed a man in the ring, but unlike in the movie, he had nightmares for years about it, he put the guys kids through school and gave several purses to the guys wife. Class act.
Baer is such a funny guy. Gotta love it when someone hands him a beer and his trainer snatches it away haha!!
MrBumboclart 2 months ago
Classy champions right here....
aitraining 4 months ago
Awesome clip!
aitraining 4 months ago
Cinderella Man was very unfair to Max Bear, Max Bear jr. should kick Ron Howard's ass!
billthestinker 4 months ago
yes, a man died in the ring against max. and max had nightmares and issues about it the rest of his life. made him look like he was proud of it in the movie. nothing could have been further from the truth from what i've read. joe and max. two really class acts. just like floyd mayweather and his family are. LOL.. and i'm not just talkin about the sucker punch. yep, he got head butted. but was that the best way for the self proclaimed best fighter in the world to take care of it..?
operacaster 4 months ago
In the Cinderella Man they made Max Baer look like a real A hole.
cowardsbware77 4 months ago
Max Baer with his arm around Joe Louis. Classic. Considering how controversial a thing like that would have been way back in 1940, it speaks volumes for his integrity to just go ahead and do it anyway. Now that's class, ladies and gentlemen. Class act all the way. Thanks for posting. This was a real treat.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
That was odd
mrdoyle71 6 months ago
Very, very, very rare footage,
Thanks mate.
Gunslinger78 8 months ago
WOW AND WOW! Awesome clip!!
aitraining 8 months ago
What a great interview! Thanks for posting. :o)
robmutch1 8 months ago
Costello sounds like Rocky Marciano
ragingbull191 8 months ago 2
Interesting to see Lou Costello interviewing Max and Joe. Lou (under the name 'Lou King') was an amateur boxer until his father found out and put a stop to it.
dharmaseed 9 months ago
@dharmaseed - actually he fought 32 fights under the name 'Lou King, until a serious knockout ended his career.
MaxiesGal 9 months ago
@MaxiesGal Wow, really? Is there a place I could look up more information on that?
dharmaseed 9 months ago
@dharmaseed - try boxrec.com
MaxiesGal 9 months ago
Jethro Bodine's daddy was really a toughy.
goov47 10 months ago
thanks for this. baer seemed like a good guy. he sure got laid a lot.
onemorebrando 10 months ago
Max Baer ... isn't he the father of the guy who played "Jethro (Max Baer Jr)" on "The Beverly Hill Billies" ... ?
daWiiZarD 11 months ago
Baer was a true gentleman. Ron Howard, rot in hell
Commonsense11111 1 year ago 3
I met Max Baer when I was just a kid, at the Uptown Theatre in Richmond, CA. He was involved in some kind of fund raiser. Also, I remember in the early days of tv in the Bay Area, Max would be on all-night telethons, like Jerry Lewis does. He would be with tears in his eyes. He seemed like a great guy, and obviously very emotional at times..... I thought he was somebody very special.
PeteRltr 1 year ago
all civilized back then..
Atomicflash500 1 year ago
LOL "I hit em in the mouth, he'll have a hard time eating spaghetti now"
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
Haha! I love the way someone hands Baer a cup of beer, he takes it then his trainer snatches it away, classy guy Max Baer was.
MrBumboclart 1 year ago
Wow, what a pleasure to see, Mayweather and the likes disgust me, we need Boxing brought back to when they shook hands at weigh in's, not all this show biz crap, all hype today, its wrong.
gangst1978 1 year ago
I think Max Baer Jr (his son) sued Ron Howard because of the way his dad was portrayed in the movie. Max Baer Jr. was Jethro in the TV show The Beverly Hillibilies
billmkyzl 1 year ago
no class today in any sport.
JORDANWASAGEM 1 year ago
Joe Louis was the best of his era and possibly any era. He didn't have the out-of-the-ring distractions Tyson had, or Tyson could have laid claim to that statement.
vccstudents 1 year ago
@vccstudents out of ring distractions caused his loss to schmeling
MrBumboclart 1 year ago
@MrBumboclart You may be right on that one because I can't see a reason for that first fight loss. The second Schmeling fight was great! My grandfather worked crowd control at that second fight in Yankee Stadium, and he actually escorted Babe Ruth ringside to see it!
vccstudents 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading this. It's a much-needed corrective to the bullshit purveyed in Cinderella Man.
Ludlow889 1 year ago
I agree Max Baer was a decent guy and a gent, Jim Braddock was also a gent, this shows with their respect for each other and being able to seperate the boxing from the personality from each other.
Ron Howard was so wrong in making Max Baer look like a bad guy, what was he thinking? The film aside from that was excellent, it didn't need a 'Rocky' style good guy vs bad guy plot.
badboy10ize 1 year ago
I enjoyed the movie Cinderella man and thought James Braddock was a man of character. However I hated the way Max Baer was portrayed in that movie.Ron Howard portrayed Max as a sadistic jerk.Every interview or film clip of Barr I read or watched makes me think he was a fun loving person with a great sense of humor.
xxdonaldqxx 1 year ago
@xxdonaldqxx
Fun loving in the camera, yes..but how would you know he was personally dude?
have you met him?
morgall 1 year ago
Max Bear is Buried or should i say in a Wall , St. Marys Cemetary Sacramento , California. I pass thru there one day after school , as a Kid and Boxing Fan I went to the Cementary to see Max Bear. at the Time i was fighting for the Sheriff yolo Atheltic league West Sacramento in 1975 i was 14 at the Time. I was Dissapointed also on how they Made Max Bear to be in the Cinderella Man MOvie.
Rest in Peace Max Bear.
alfalfakid1 1 year ago
I mention Baer in The Celebrity Song.
superdavid002 1 year ago
lol when i watch these videos it feels like life actually was in black in white lol
nicktagrandmere 1 year ago
@nicktagrandmere That is so true. I remember the first time I saw moving images of WW2 in colour - it shocked me. I thought that war was a black and white war. LOL.
nitramgnal 1 year ago
That's Jethro Bodines daddy!
ech77066 1 year ago
Max Baer was funny til the end. When he got chest pains from the heart attack that would kill him, he called the front desk of the hotel asking to send a doctor. The asked him if he wanted the Hotel doctor; Baer said "I want a people doctor!"
joeparkson 1 year ago
Max was a gentle, good hearted man in a rough business... Noth the ogre they made him out be in Cinderella Man.
LA8PVCallingTheWorld 1 year ago 2
Was that Max and Joe or Arturo and Mickey?
EverettBurger 1 year ago
This is really cool. Thanks.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 2 years ago
Excellent! Thanks for uploading this.
SZSearcher 2 years ago
that is what sport is all about - you want to kill your opponent in the ring/game but when it's over you're friends, shake hands, have a drink.. brilliant clip
hullcityafc72 2 years ago 10
@hullcityafc72 yup but trouble is that in boxing you really do kill your opponent sometimes,or seriously injure him.boxing is a tough tough dangerous sport.i really respect pro boxers.
dempsey981 1 year ago
Brilliant clip.
Baer was a genuine class act.
What a showman!
Thanks for posting.
vincevouyer 2 years ago 8
Terrific, isn't it ? He was such a contradiction. One minute he's groomed, suited, and seemingly unapproachable in his glamour, the next he's dirty and sweaty and a regular Joe you want to have a drink with !
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
This is so good to see. Thanks for posting it, MaxiesGal. The genuine affection that Max has for Joe is so charmingly apparent here. Joe's expression also reflects what looks like deep contentment to me. This was 1940. At that time it was far outside the norm for a white man to display affection like this for a black man, especially out in the open. But, Max never considered the norm it seems - especially when it came to friendship. Sweet confession: This clip made me love Max.
brewepau 1 year ago
That's some good stuff!
bradleyjstevens 2 years ago 2
what a true sportsmen they use to be ,you cant see it nowaday , and what a gentelman baer was , and they portrayed maxie as an animal in the cinderela man movie,i watched all of baer fights and he always treated his opponent with respect, that s.o.b ron howard who made that movie should be ashamed of himself.
teymani 2 years ago 16
Teymani: People are trying to make the reaL LIFE STORY OF BAER. Cinderella Man bombed at the box office as the story was falsely portrayed.
burtwiseman 2 years ago
@teymani, absolutely spot-on about Ron Howard's ridiculous portrayal of Max Baer. Max was The Clown Prince of Boxing, not the sullen character in The Cinderella Man. Max should have been portrayed as he was...as a man who had all of the attributes to be a long-last world champion, except for one thing: dedication to training and singularity of purpose. Braddock was the guy who took full advantage of his meager attributes and became a winner through hard work and keen focus. Howard blew it.
DannyA123 1 year ago 2
@teymani I agree. Ron Howard did a terrible thing. That's why I refuse to see the film.
brewepau 1 year ago
@teymani dude he fuckin killed a guy in the ring
fatprick44 6 months ago
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@teymani Watch the Ward / Gatti series if you think that you can't see it today.
MADMAC572 3 months ago
@teymani in the DVD commentators he said he didnt know the man the executive producers suggested making Baer more meaneir and intimidating to fit the down on his luck style story. He did apologize on the commentaries saying he wasn't a boxing fan and if he knew Max better he wouldnt of done it that way.
mrfivegold 1 month ago
its rare there is no rasict too oO
ericown 2 years ago
Here were two geniune "tough guys" yet unlike so many of today's fighters they didn't need to trash talk. Louis and Baer were class acts.
BillClausen 2 years ago
Just wanted to let Maxie's fans know that, based on some family history info I provided to the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, Max Baer will be among its inductees for 2010.
MaxiesGal 2 years ago 3
Baer was such a class act. In a time when white folks were still reluctant and cautious about being friendly to Blacks, Max was so genuine and caring...as was Louis toward Max. A Beautiful sight over 70 years ago.
bumblebeemoi 2 years ago 2
What does Max Baer say at the end of this clip, from 1:12 onwards. I cant make it out.
JoeFraze 2 years ago
I like Max Baer. Lots of Charisma...scary prospect in the ring. Louis is young when they fight...
latinaloveruk 2 years ago
Thanks, this is a great video.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
This is a great video!! Love watching classic boxing moments!! Thanks 4 sharing!!
MoPhSTrOL 2 years ago
fantastic video 5 stars,max baer would of knocked out both klitsckos
johnwelshmorris5 2 years ago
This video makes me want to cling to a past I never had.
MorayEel 2 years ago
Sighhhhhh ... I hear ya ... I know the times weren't all rosy, but they certainly seemed to have a special glow about them that doesn't exist today...
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
Great to see them together. Thanks.
Streamline09 2 years ago
Nice. Baer was the Clown Prince of boxing, a character the likes of which you don't see in sports nowadays. Of course the movie made him a monster to accentuate the contrast with the saintly Braddock and make the latter more heroic. People need to realise that he actually quit after the Campbell fight and only came back after extensive counselling by Dempsey et al. He also ensured Campbell's widow was OK financially and put their children through college.
madmax8903 2 years ago
Yeah he was really hard done by in that film. He and Braddock had a lot of mutual respect, remember how they hugged after the actual fight? I doubt whether braddock himself would have been happy with that film because of how they treated Baer.
miltondemagnifique 2 years ago
@milton,
Couldn't have said it better, thank you !!
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
@miltondemagnifique that's just Hollywood...it has to be "good vs. bad"...or I guess after 30 years of WWE or however long it's been, the concept that maybe both Braddock and Baer were two good people engaged in a sporting competition would be "boring"...with no "edge" to it...in the interests of drama they had to create a situation where the nice guy who loves his family and is trying to provide for them goes up against this arrogant, smirking, murderous monster...just to make it a better story
XxowendanxX 1 year ago
@Mad,
As I discovered, and wrote about on my Max Baer website: Neither Max Baer nor Jack Dempsey "put Frankie's children through school" or "sent three of Frankie's children to Norte Dame" though if Elsie Camilli had asked they surely would have helped her. Only Frankie Jr. survived to early adulthood, but chose to attend West Point. An archivist at Notre Dame University confirmed to me nobody with variations of the names "Frank Camilli" or "Frank Campbell" has ever attended their University.
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
the interviewer reminds me of joe pecci
aschindler22 2 years ago
"The interviewer" is the late great Lou Costello. One half of the greatest comedy duos of all time. Search youtube for Who's on first and you'll be hooked.
harleygirldi 2 years ago 2
wish i was born at this tim
makpak 2 years ago
Me too Mak, I was born about a century too late. Some would say, 'well you wouldn't have this and that", but I wouldn't have known these things to miss them in the first place ...
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
Max Baer was a very funny man and a great warrior. Nice to see you are protecting his legacy MaxiesGal. Cheers from Oz !
gragrn 2 years ago
Never met an Oz man I didn't like, cheers mate !
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
You can clearly see the mutual respect and affection Max Baer and Joe Louis had for each other. Louis being there as a friend, Baer wrapping his arm around Louis and giving him a playful nod with the head. No unfriendlyness at all. You couldn't meet nicer fellas, I would have intrusted my kids to both of them. Priceless stuff!
tintinesk2 2 years ago 2
Well said Tintin !
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
That one clip tells you more about the man than all the phony Hollywood crap put together. Vale Max Baer!
gragrn 2 years ago 3
Another well said comment, I'm glad to see people are seeing through the crap that was the movie "Cinderella Man" thanks !
MaxiesGal 2 years ago
wow that is rare
cinna71 2 years ago
Costello did some boxing himself
CaptainAmerica322 2 years ago 2
Gave me chills. Good to see the real Maxie not the Hollywood recreation of him being a asshole. Awesome footage thank you.
josephsweeney75 3 years ago 3
Right on...sad how they can portray someone in the effort to make a buck
pulppeeler 2 years ago
That's not true citizenjosefk. If you watch boxing on the regular, then you would see it all the time. In fact, I always wondered why fighters showed so much respect and affection after a fight. Mike Tyson would kiss some of his opponents after almost knocking their heads off. I think it's confusing you because of the era, which I can understand. One wouldn't expect to see that type of thing in the 1930's.
jazstudio 3 years ago
Those are real men! They don't make them like that anymore. 3 True Legends. 100% classy gentlemen.
GinoTheWhat 3 years ago 3
wow.Rare! thanks!
ssaltspring 3 years ago
Beautiful, thanks MaxiesGal! It sure was a different era back then. The warmth and affection of the fighters is remarkable, you wouldn't see that today between two guys who are going to fight. These guys have a class and dignity, a respect for their station in life, a self respect that few fighters today possess. Two legends, good stuff. Wish we could return to the old rules and ways of boxing when the sport was raw and unapologetic in its substance, but classy in its bearing.
citizenjosefk 3 years ago
i watched Cinderella Man in my class cuz we were reading the novel "The Contender" and the closest movie to that book was Cinderella Man and ever since i've loved the movie.
i wish i could meet the real cinderella man ^^
that would sick
lol
LOLchicky 3 years ago
this is awesome
LOLchicky 3 years ago
It's sad the way Cinderella Man made Max look like such a ass, he really wasn't that way. He was a fierce competitor but outside the ring was a genuinely nice man. It's true he killed a man in the ring, but unlike in the movie, he had nightmares for years about it, he put the guys kids through school and gave several purses to the guys wife. Class act.
longtalltexan63 3 years ago 4
JOE LOUIS all class
rush1471 3 years ago 2
this was before A&C started making movies. They were still Radio comedians on the Kate Smith show
bluejay02920 3 years ago
great video
roryhorne 3 years ago
Thanks Rory. Salem, Oregon huh ? I lived in and loved Grants Pass !! Can't beat fishing and boating on the Rogue River !
MaxiesGal 3 years ago
thats a great video it fits well with max
roryhorne 3 years ago
...and thanks for your encouragement, Grim. I wouldn't have upped them without your nudges ... =)~
MaxiesGal 3 years ago
MaxieGal: Tks for that video, i have seen it many times though. I recently saw Baer in a great movie BUCKSKIN FRONTIER. I think he stole the movie.
burtwiseman 3 years ago
Great vids MaxiesGal, I'm glad you are finally upping them :-)
FightChannel 3 years ago