It was the original manuscripts that were inspired by God and inerrant, not the text we have today. The modern Bible is inerrant to the degree that it is an accurate representation of the original. A scribe may make an error, but that is not an error of the original text. So the question is: how confident are we that we know what the ORIGINAL text said? We have thousands upon thousands of copies early centuries, which gives plenty of evidence to compare documents and find where errors occurred.
hue and cry over the death coffin of chrisitianity !!!!!!!! nothing else... if you know that there are errors why do not your pope and pastors confess in public... power of jesus could not correct these errors ??? that is what you want to say ????? cowards liars !!!
@DarkestSide1000 Actually that's the Quran, fucking moron. Why don't you go fuck little 8 year old kids like you terrorist Ahmad or muhhamad or whatever did.
go on... read your Bible first, slick... that's in YOUR Bible... and you Bible thumping Baby Sprinklers only got that to counterfire huh? That's cliched and weak, pogue !
Laughable and pathelic! This is a transcription error. Nothing more. The difference between muslims and Christians is that Christians have never claim that there was no error in the transcription of the Bible. It's little errors, but there is no meaningful or contradiction errors.
However, in the koran, contradictions & meaningful errors are multiplied according to the fantiasies of muhammad. Muhammad hangs himself with his own words.
You muslims better stop making yourselves ridiculous.
2 Kings 8 At that the king said to Haz´a·el: “Take a gift in your hand and go and meet the man of the [true] God, and you must inquire of Jehovah through him, saying, ‘Shall I revive from this sickness?’” NOT WHAT YOU SAY IT SAYS
The holy bible has been translater atlreast 3 times as to the copy you read now. let man translate something 3 times and you will see errors of somekind. if you want errors in something let man translate it !
I cannot believe the stupidity of people who use the faults, & there are many in the Bible, to prove the efficacy of the Koran when the Koran was derived from the Old & New Testaments using characters found in the older book. This is a very basic tenant, If you write a book, Koran, based on what you find in a book of lies, eg the Bible, then you have also written a book of lies.You CANNOT write a whole bunch of lies extracted from one book & put it in another book then present it as the truth.
This infact does not prove anything. The fact it has 2 different ages for a king proves nothing, it simply means God has placed a stumbling block for fools. Also he most definatly wasnt 42 at his reign then, use your common sence. Im kind of tired for your justification that the bible is flawed because you dont understand it. Let me pose this to you, if this world is a test and God is our teacher, would he not make the exam hard? The fact you koran is easy to understand in no way helps
@MrWaterlionmonkey By all means, the qu'ran is not a simple book you can understand easily. I had to read it a lot of times to really understand it. And please, don't say shit like that. I bet you never even read the qu'ran.
JESUS SAID: THE HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS BUT NOT MY WORD!
JUST A REFERENCE:JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said,(SAID=VERB=WORD
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, (SAID = VERB)
JESUS SAID: THE HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS BUT NOT MY WORD!
JUST A REFERENCE:JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
they form a confederacy against You: 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab and the Hagrites; 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assyria also has joined with them; they have helped the children of Lot. Selah
1 Do not keep silent, O God! Do not hold Your peace, and do not be still, O God! 2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult; and those who hate You have lifted up their head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, and consulted together against Your sheltered ones. 4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” 5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
TELL ME ABOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS ON THIS PROPHECY!
WHAT I SEE IN THE NEWS IS ALL THIS NATIONS OR PEOPLE GETTING TOGETHER TO ATTACK ISRAEL. ALL BECAUSE OF (ISLAM) AND THIS PROPHECY WAS WRITEN HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE ISLAM!
NOW EXPLAIN THIS PROPHECY TO ME, IF YOU CAN! THIS IS WHY WE BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD! THE FULFILLMENTS OF PROPHECYS DECLARES THE AUTHORITY OF THE WORD OF GOD.
Islam loves to tout biblical errors. Notables like Bart Erhman says much of the bibles errors was b/c of translations copied many times over in many languages by hand resulting in faulty record keeping in livestock or peoples ages.
We are a unrighteous, sinful natured people always in error!
The REAL challenge for muslims is to find ERRORS & contradicitions solely on the words of Jesus in the NT.
Jesus speaks the words of God (John 7:16) The words of Jesus are perfect.
@jefeisdguard jesus is not the one who makes any errors ,he is a true prophet and messiah of god,paul and other translators of the bible are the ones who are in error ,oh and here is one error Matthew 13:31-32 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”
At the very time Jesus told this parable do you think any of the people there knew what a "poppy seed" was?
Probably not. Jesus used the reference of a mustard seed b/c they all knew what a mustard seed was. But a poppy seed? This was from the "plant of joy" given to making opium or herbs for cures. Dont think Jesus wanted to give a poppy seed much advertisement, do you?
Man makes errors, true. Jesus doesnt, yet Islam calls Jesus a liar
@jefeisdguard ok firstly ,the poppy seed was discovered many years BC ,but anyway even so ,where do we say that he is a liar?? we say that all the people lied about him ,even if it is good lies which praise him it is still wrong ,but according to islam he was never wrong ,christianity says that he is a liar by showing that he said i am the son of man ,and saying that he is god,where as he believed in the commandments of moses and with that its not possible to be god
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- but according to islam he was never wrong ,christianity says that he is a liar by showing that he said i am the son of man -UNQUOTE- Wrong! According to Islam, Jesus LIES! Sura 4:157 calls Jesus a liar. Jesus NEVER lies! Either quran is right or Jesus is right! Cant have both. Jesus calls himself “SON OF MAN” many times about himself! Matthew 16:13 Christianity NEVER said first!
@jefeisdguard hahahahahaha!!!!! surah 4:157 is saying that u people are liars not jesus(pbuh) because u are not the followers of jesus but paul..and u are in doubt ,jesus never said he was crucified,he never said he will die for ur sins ,u and paul say so with no valid evidence what so ever... because firstly ur calculations are wrong ,another thing is no one witnessd the crucifiction ,it was "privately" done
@mafiadondogg Islam screwed up by calling Jesus a LIAR! 600 yrs after bible was written, Islam CREATED Sura 4: 157 which states Jesus was NEVER crucified. Scripture can NOT be broken! John 10: 35 Islam/bible says Jesus is a prophet Sura 19: 30 & Matt 21: 11 Does Jesus LIE? (John 8: 46) Jesus prophesied his resurrection & death by CRUCIFIXION in following: Matt 26:2, 20: 18- 19, 17: 22- 23 Mark 8: 31, 9: 31, 10: 32- 34 Luke 9: 22, 18: 31- 33 John 3: 14- 17, 10: 11, 12: 31- 32, 19: 23
@jefeisdguard jesus was never crucified ,but god took him up ,he didnt even talk about a cross ,he didnt even carry a cross ,he didnt even say that he will die for the sin of adam and eve ...that is what u people say with the help of a false prophet named paulie ,he makes u believe all this crap that never happend to christ
@mafiadondogg There is NO man, NO prophet, NO King, No messenger, No human alive or dead who has claimed, said or done what Jesus said & did. Following 7 attributes Islam plagiarized from bible PROVES Jesus is God! Al Haq = the TRUTH = John 14:6 Al Baeth = the RESURRECTION = John 11:25-26 Al Awal = the FIRST = Isa 41:4 Al Akher = the LAST = Rev 22:13,16 Al Malek = KING OF KINGS = Rev 17:14 Al Hadi = the GUIDE = John 10:9 Al Nur =the LIGHT = John 8:12
@jefeisdguard uhm so what are u saying?? what about moses?? god made him a god to pharaoh ,but does that make him our creator?? what about muslim people who are named after allah's 99 names?? does that make them god ,but u know what is so great about god?? is that no one is named allah :-) no prophet ,or no one was called that..
@jefeisdguard lmao but jesus too said that he does miracles through god ,so i dont know whats ur point,if jesus(pbuh) was god why would he need permission from himself to do things? and no he was not crucified again,when he was on the cross he said my god my god why have u forsaken me ...so wtf?? how on earth could he have known he will be crucified?
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- how on earth could he have known he will be crucified? -UNQUOTE- How else does a GOD know? Islam has GOOFED so many times they will miss out for all eternity! What does John 8:24 REALLY mean to you? Did Muh’d really truly preach any of Jesus’ message? Jesus is God b/c Jesus SAID He is NOT from this world (John 8:23) Jesus also said He was here B4 the earth was formed (John 17:5) Jesus said He is God in Matt 4:7, 10 & Luke 4:8, 12 & Matt 22:32
and no he was not crucified again,when he was on the cross he said my god my god why have u forsaken me ...so wtf??
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Jesus prophesied His crucifixion in Matt 20:18-19 & a dozen more biblical verses besides OT! God the Father NEVER left Jesus except once when all worlds sins were upon Jesus on the cross. Why Jesus said what He said. God left, Jesus wiped away our sins wHis blood & God came back.
We were 4given. 4 eternal life we MUST believe He died for us & repent
@jefeisdguard ok so if u were forgiven only after jesus had to die,then everyone before jesus crucifixion went to hell?? wow!!! how unfortunate of them ,moses went to hell,abraham went to hell? david went to hell? wow that sounds cruel,imagine that saying as sinless as a new born baby?? makes no sense because if he doesnt except christ as his lord and saviour ,his heading for satans location ,poor babys that die..its sad hey
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- makes no sense because if he doesnt except christ as his lord and saviour ,his heading for satans location ,poor babys that die..its sad hey -UNQUOTE- All men are born sinners, including babies. But babies are NOT of the age to know what carnal sin is. Theres a psyche test drawing, when shown to adults & kids, responses R different. Adults see a SEXUAL scene whilst the children see 9 dolphins! This is why children don’t go to hell & we do.
moses went to hell,abraham went to hell? david went to hell? wow that sounds cruel,imagine that saying as sinless as a new born baby??
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Are you being sarcastic or just plain stupid?
Why would God send these prophets to hell? Muh’d, I can understand.
After all, no other prophet ever married a child, or their daughter-in-law, had countless wives, concubines, raped women, robbed men of their lives, wives, women & wealth.
@jefeisdguard u said that jesus died for all mankids sins ,without him dying we could never get heaven ,so how did those prophets get heaven if jesus never sacrificed himself yet ?? makes any sense ?? and if u say that they are prophets thats y they didnt go to hell ,than all muslims who follow the way of islam will go to heaven because we are commanded to follow the ways of the prophets like jesus and moses ,and u judging muhammad(pbuh) over false shit u dont know ,he was perfect
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- ok so if u were forgiven only after jesus had to die,then everyone before jesus crucifixion went to hell?? wow!!! -UNQUOTE- Are U intelligent? An adult & not a little kid? The Mosaic & Abrahamic Laws in OT dealt with mans servitude, obedience, works, faith, deeds, repentance towards God. Getting to heaven was complicated w/so many rules. Could be the reason why so many may have chosen to worship idols & Islam! Jesus coming here made things easier. Jer 31:31
@jefeisdguard so islam tells us to do it that complicated way exactly what u saying ,we dont just get heaven out of nothing ,and jesus never said u will just get heaven ,paul said that ,that is why he is a false prophet ,non of the prophets said that u would get it the easy way like paul said ,it makes no sense and contradicts the teachings of the abrahamic prophets
You said: -QUOTE- u judging muhammad(pbuh) over false shit u dont know ,he was perfect -UNQUOTE- How was Muh’d perfect? Was Muh’d perfect; 1) have sex w/6 yr old? 2) abusing his authority by RAPING non-muslims women by Islamic law of “possessing what is in your right hand”? 3) have so many wives, concubines, sex slaves, sex captives & a daughter-in-law? 4) have libido to 30 men? 5) for beheading 900+ boys who cried for mercy under Q 9:6 & never got it! Now how was what I said is false?
@jefeisdguard ok firstly he didnt have sex with her till the age of puberty ,when did he rape non muslim girls? show sum evidence and before u do that ,check up the meaning of the word rape, he never married them to satisfy himself ,he married women who needed a family ,and then u go on saying things that has no evidence just listening to sick christians talk typical.. muhammad (pbuh) created a muslim world and all our countries have the least crime rates,aids ,and we give charity
and if u say that they are prophets thats y they didnt go to hell ,than all muslims who follow the way of islam will go to heaven because we are commanded to follow the ways of the prophets like jesus and moses
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Islam followed THEIR own quranic counterfeit Jesus not the real bible Jesus. Since when did the REAL biblical Jesus speak as a baby? Or Talk to allah? Or say He was a muslim? When did Mary & disciples talk to allah & say they are muslims?
@jefeisdguard that is something that u urself dont know lol ,so why u talking so much?? about jesus and mary talking to allah, jesus was definitly a muslim because he followed the commandments of moses and he believed that he is the christ (messiah) so where are the odds?? a jew that believes jesus is the messiah is a muslim duh!!
u said that jesus died for all mankids sins ,without him dying we could never get heaven ,so how did those prophets get heaven if jesus never sacrificed himself yet ?? makes any sense ??
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I told you already. The laws were different than they are today. It is YOUR Islamic tenets that don’t make sense. Why do women need four witnesses to prove they have been raped? Why does Islam treat their women like slaves? Interesting that Ishmaels mother was a slave, ehhh?
@jefeisdguard four witnesses to prove they been raped or made zina ,u people are really sick minded may god be with u,if a man and women have sex behind marriage then they need four witnesses to prove that it happend before they receive punishment,if a girl is raped in abu dhabi where i live then the man will be sentenced to death my friend ,that is the way of the prophet muhammad(pbuh)
paul said that ,that is why he is a false prophet ,non of the prophets said that u would get it the easy way like paul said ,it makes no sense and contradicts the teachings of the abrahamic prophets
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Paul? A false prophet? Paul complimented Jesus. Btwn Paul & Muh’d ONLY Paul followed the teaching s of Jesus! When did Muh’d follow ONE word from Jesus? None of the prophets came after Jesus, only Paul. Jesus brought us a new covenant as foretold in Jerem 31:31
@jefeisdguard hahahaha paul followed the teachings of moses?? hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! how on earth did paul follow jesus?? he took away the religion of jesus which is judaism that believes he is the messiah ,how on earth could paul follow jesus?? christians are not the people of jesus.. u are the people of paul , jesus came for the children of israel ,i dont know where u people fit in hey ,he said that people will call him god and he will pretend like he doesnt know u lol wow!!
muhammad (pbuh) created a muslim world and all our countries have the least crime rates,aids ,and we give charity
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When YOU say Islamic countries have the LEAST crime rates, you should understand how the media there wont allow negative reports of any crime rates that could affect how the world perceives Islam!
I doubt they are given any freedom to do so.
Btw, America is the most the GENEROUS in the world, inasfar as charity; not Islam
@jefeisdguard lmao ,u forgetting that america too has a large population of muslims ,nah its not the muslims who show the crime rates ect,people from all over the world research these things by going country to country themselvs to investigate ,and we have the least ,christian people wont protect us
show sum evidence and before u do that ,check up the meaning of the word rape, he never married them to satisfy himself ,he married women who needed a family
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Some Jihadis had sex w/captive women in presence of their husbands
Sunaan Abu Dawud: Bk 11, # 2150
One can have sexual intercourse w/captive woman after clear of her period or delivery. If shes a husband then her marriage is abrogated after captured (Quran 4:24 )…(Shahih Muslim 8.3432)
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- he didnt have sex with her till the age of puberty ,when did he rape non muslim girls? -UNQUOTE- Muh’d, 54, married Aisha at 6, thighed her then sex at 9 Sahih Bukhari Vol 7, Bk 62, # 64, 65, 88 Islam Law states all muslium men can RAPE those they “possess w/their right hand Sex with captive women and slave women is permitted … 23: 1- 6 & Q 4:24 & Surah iv.28 Sex with wives, captives, slaves O. K. ... 70: 25- 34 Sahih Bukhari: Vol 5, Bk 59, # 637
about jesus and mary talking to allah, jesus was definitly a muslim because he followed the commandments of moses
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There were NO muslims 2,000 yrs ago. Whats wrong w/all muslims? Why the lie?
The fuzzy math doesn’t work here. IF there were such a thing as a muslim there would be evidence in the bible! Or history books! Islam wants everyone to think being a “muslim” is as normal as having a “soul”.
But muslims are associated w/death, violence & sex, too bad
@jefeisdguard there were always muslims ,are u a fool? do u know what the word muslim means? if one surrenders to god ,all the prophets believed that god was greater than them ,so that makes them muslims the one who follows the right path ,if u type in jewish rabbi admits islam is the oldest religion u will c,muhammad is only a prophet confirming jesus and moses and the other prophets ,he didnt confirm paul thats why u people hate him
if a girl is raped in abu dhabi where i live then the man will be sentenced to death my friend ,that is the way of the prophet muhammad(pbuh)
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No. Muh’d NEVER did this. If the situation was NOT to Muh’ds favor … Muh’d always INVENTED a quranic verses or hadith to make the situation ok thru the NEW revelations from “allah”! Bukhari 4721 & Bukhari:V4B52N203
4 witnesses to prove they been raped or made zina ,u people are really sick minded may god be w/u
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Any NON-muslim woman can be OWNED thus RAPED by any muslim during war! Muslims can rape anyone they possess w/their right hand. We seem 2B at war w/muslims b/c they LIE to us constantly & all muslim women can be BEATEN just 4 talking to any man. Shows ‘insecurity’ of muslim men.
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- christians are not the people of jesus.. u are the people of paul , jesus came for the children of israel -UNQUOTE- That’s the indoctrination lessons from ur biased propaganda. Jesus is for everybody! Muslims mistakenly claim that Jesus was ONLY sent to the Jews, Matt 12:18 & 21, Matt 8:11, Matt 6:32, Gal 3:8, Luke 2:32, Isaiah 60:3 Why are YOU a believer in a religion w/no proof & NO foundation biblically? Ishmael has NO father, according to God!
how on earth did paul follow jesus?? he took away the religion of jesus which is judaism that believes he is the messiah ,how on earth could paul follow jesus??
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In all his writings, Paul honors Jesus Christ saying he is but a servant & in many cases brings PROOF of the TRINTY by commenting on God the Father too!
Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
@jefeisdguard lol but paul was a false prophet ,he matches what jesus said about false prophets,do u want me to show it to u?? a perfect match! how could he be a true prophet if he did everything jesus(pbuh) described a false prophet to be ,changing things ,ok i have a challenge for u.. do u believe that the commandments is the only way to eternity?? yes or no ,if u say yes than u believe jesus because that is what he said ,and if u say no than u are a paul follower lets see who u choose
god is not the author of confusion ,what ever happend to that verse ,trinity alone over 78% of christians doubt the trinity so how can that be from god?? dont worry I'll wait!! trinity was never mentioned by jesus(pbuh) how can your salvation not be mentioned by your own god ,if it were true it would have been mentioned thousands of times,but guess what is mentioned thousands of time?? the lord thy god is one god VS the father the son and the holy spirit is one combined being
paulie never followed jesus(pbuh) he made it look like the teachings of jesus meant nothing to us but he did it in a style ,he distracted u by the whole sacrifice for sins on the cross ,he drew your attention there while he corrupted the teachings of jesus,and u people fell for it ,because when ever we tell u how the teachings of jesus means nothing ,u say well we living under a new covenant,how convenient for u people ,u have an excuse to not follow jesus(pbuh)
jesus told u that u will be accountable for your own sins ,he said u should circumsize , he forbid swine,he said god is one ,he said so many things that christians dont do anymore why??? "because we living under a new covenant" .. that gives an excuse to forget the teachings of your god?? what was he just bullshitin the people that it doesnt matter anymore ?? now listen to me im telling u that paul was bullshitin people trying to get people away from the right way
@jefeisdguard lol ,paul prophecised muhammad(pbuh) ?? where was this ? so u telling me if your mum was a slave ,and your dad made her pregnant ,u wouldnt be his biological son?? well i wonder where u learn your things ,but in gods eyes we are all equal ,and moses prophesied that genesis would be corrupted ,wow!! and according to the commentry of the bible it was corrupted ,so do u still believe that ishmael is not a biological son?
there were always muslims ,are u a fool? do u know what the word muslim means? if one surrenders to god ,all the prophets believed that god was greater than them ,so that makes them muslims
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WRONG! The word “muslim” is a made up word. You know for a fact that if all prophets were to speak NONE would consider themselves “muslims”
Muslims have associated themselves w/death, SEX, power & deception.
There is NOTHING kool about being a “muslim”, nothing.
@jefeisdguard lol so if you dont believe me about islam being the oldest religion i told u ,type in jewish rabbi admits islam is the oldest religion ,and sit back and watch a rabbi out of all people admitting this ,why do jews prefer islam? because we believe in the same god lol ,what was jesus(pbuh) ?? a jew!! and he believed that he is the messiah ,so we are more like him than u are..plus he used muhammads name as the comforter lol it gets better and better
but christians do it every day ,murder ,rape,ect is very rare in our muslim society ,we fear god ,and according to islam if u kill innocent people u will go to hell,so how can islam be the cause of this?
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Unfortunately, what muslims say verbally & what they say is in the quran are two different things in the REAL WORLD!
Islam is NOT peaceful but very violent. There IS compulsion to violence & Islam does KILL innocent people all-the-time!
in gods eyes we are all equal ,and moses prophesied that genesis would be corrupted ,wow!! and according to the commentry of the bible it was corrupted ,so do u still believe that ishmael is not a biological son?
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How is Genesis corrupted again? Why do YOU dispute the word of God consistently & have faith in the unproven & untested words of the quran?
Ishmael, according to God, is NO LONGER the son of Abraham.
@jefeisdguard book of genesis corrupted check NIV Bible Commentary, page 2 ,it says that the bible has been tampered with , and its true because isaac was born after the covenant lol , and the covenant was sealed already,the reason ishmael and was no longer the heir according to genesis was because he mocked isaac ,what a lame excuse ,according to your own bible genesis was corrupted and it makes sense because everyone knows how corrupt jews are even jesus said it
it makes sense that they corrupted it because it has contradictions ,and suits the jews well,"we are the chosen people" lol ,but they should have got a better person to make up that lie
so u telling me if your mum was a slave ,and your dad made her pregnant ,u wouldnt be his biological son??
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True. I would be the biological son but I am NOT the named “inheritor”
Think of it as a court case. One son has been removed from the family will.
Sure hes related by blood & DNA but he & his family inherit NOTHING from the dads fortune. While the only remaining son builds business after business.
Muhammadians are NOT co-inheritors to Isaacs covenant
@jefeisdguard lmao,now u continue to insult the man when the truth is thrown infront of u,jesus (pbuh) prophesied him ,and non of u can prove it wrong, he matched him perfectly ,he said that muhammad (pbuh) will speak what he hears ,and that is how the quran was revealed lol ,that verse matches him exactly like the verse of the false prophet matches paul ..how ironic lol
that verse matches him exactly like the verse of the false prophet matches paul ..how ironic lol
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ONLY Muh’d spoke to an angel, w/NO witnesses. Even PAUL had witnesses! Satan was an angel. Satan POSED as Gabriel. If Gabriel were the true angel of God, this meeting would have been recorded in the bible or prophesied about it. The father liars gave Muh’d the doctrine of LYING!
How fitting & how logical this makes. The religion of deception, Islam.
@jefeisdguard lol u forgetting that paul saw visions too?? he saw visions of jesus,how do u know that it was really jesus that he saw ?? wait lets see ,lets compare ,how manyt muslims in jail compared to christians ,which countries have the highest crime rates ,which countries are the most religious?? muslims or christians u decide ,does satan want u to do right things or wrong things
@jefeisdguard lol he prophesied muhammad weather u like it or not ,ahmad is the aramaic name for muhammad ,now would he put ahmad if it wasnt ahmad ,think properly dont be ignorant
@jefeisdguard lol if u know judaism u will see that god cant be a man ,so that makes islam and judaism, and that makes jesus believe that god cant be a man ,so where on earth does paul find that god can be a man, let me make this clear ,god CAN become a man if he wants to,he has no limitations ,but why would he wanna become a man ,and the christian reason for him becoming a man is totally absurd..so dont even think about using that reason
well why dont the jews believe in 3 of them lol ,jesus would have made it clear to the jews ,and do u know why i bring up the crime rates ect?? because of the verse where jesus(pbuh) said beware of the false prophets by their fruits u shall recognize the good people ,so u judge from the crime ect ,go and visit the prisons
genesis was corrupted & makes sense b/c everyone knows how corrupt jews are even jesus said it
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Just b/c Jews were found 2B corrupted in bible doesn’t mean the BOOK itself is the reason! What kind of logic is that? Grasping at straws R we? Jesus came here & Jews wanted to KILL Him for impersonating a GOD!
Tell me; how would have the bible story been different had Jesus NOT been crucified as depicted & revealed instead all His powers as He said in Matt 28:18?
@jefeisdguard uhm we on a whole different page here ,we talking about ishmael and isaac ,why didnt jesus say that ishmael is not a biological son? and a false prophet will come and create a religion that christians will convert to and have a better life after that and be grounded spiritually ?? and do the exact things that he taught ,and be like him,if u say that the muslim way is wrong u are saying that jesus way was wrong lol
@jefeisdguard lmao ok then if ishmael was a cast away why was he called a son at the funeral ?? u people fell for the jews,jesus(pbuh) said that they are liars ,moses too said that ,and both jesus and moses PBUT were not fond of the jews ,but no christians believe the jews because u wanna protect paulie , u dont care what the truth is
it makes sense that they corrupted it because it has contradictions ,and suits the jews well,"we are the chosen people" lol ,but they should have got a better person to make up that lie
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Yes, the Jews were chosen & they screwed things up for themselves many times in the OT.
Whichs why Jesus & Paul preached to the Gentiles; that’d be anyone NOT Jewish!
Matt 12:18 & 21, Matt 8:11, Matt 6:32, Gal 3:8, Luke 2:32, Isaiah 60:3
oh and thanks for those verses i been lookin for them ,now i use it against u,why dont u follow the teachings of moses???????
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No problem. Too bad you don’t listen to Gods words about Ishmael yet wanna pay close attention to the defunct Mosaic Laws by man! Yes defunct! Moses created those laws that were copied from his Egyptian predecessors. Still don’t get do you?
Jesus was there w/Abraham & Moses! John 8:56 - 58 John 5:46 - 47
@jefeisdguard lol sorry i couldnt reply to some of your things didnt see it because people are spamming u,goes to show that u not making any sense ,jesus was with abraham and moses?? n u say that jesus is god ? the laws state that there were no other gods before and will be no god after god ,so how was jesus there? u people mistook the I AM verse to fit your understanding... u still never told me why u dont follow the commandments of moses u dont follow jesus
jesus said if u dont follow moses u cant follow him ,why dont u follow moses?? admit to me that u follow paul and not jesus ,im safe because i am a muslim ,imagine this ,i have the permission to be like jesus ,everything that he did ,i can do it like him ,will that stop me from going to heaven?? answer yes or no,if i do everything like jesus will i go to heaven or not?? if u say no it means that u saying jesus wasnt a perfect person ,its simple
and i want a proper answer dont tell me of satan ect.. im not interested ,we have the jews as back up that we have the same god , because to them u people are totally insane by calling the son of man god , u people not supposed to change any of the laws ,like jesus said ,u just supposed to recognize that he is the messiah period ,and u supposed to repent for your sins ,he wouldnt have said that if he knew that u will be saved lol by killing himself
@jefeisdguard lmfao u dont understand your own bible,dont u know what is quotation marks?? 31. But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you,
32. `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
what god said ,not what jesus said ,or what i said ,god said he is the god.. jesus never claimed to be god in no verse ,why do u think muslims always win debates??eg. ahmed deedat,zakir naik
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- where on earth does it sat that jesus is wrong!!! he didnt make that up,we are saying that u people are wrong -UNQUOTE- WRONG! Islam CREATED Sura 4:157 which calls Jesus a liar! YOU are wrong. Jesus doesn’t lie, PROVE IT! Jesus says He will be crucified & resurrected in 3 days. Sura 4:157 refutes this thus calling Jesus & GOD LIARS! Jesus speaks for God (John 7:16) This is why ur quran NEEDS witnesses BADDDDDDDD!!!!!!
@jefeisdguard lol satan only knows paul because they are one ,like jesus said the father and i are one ,paul should say satan and i are one ,because its true
@jefeisdguard we do have witnesses which is the hadith ,u misunderstood things ,and got carried away by the witnesses thing ,goes to show how desperate u are
do u want me to show it to u?? a perfect match! how could he be a true prophet if he did everything jesus(pbuh) described a false prophet to be ,changing things
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Jesus met Paul as a light & a voice. Muh’d had neither. Saul became Paul in his rebirth. Paul who knew NOTHING about Jesus INSTANTLY became knowledgable thru Luke 12:12 & Matthew 10:19 -20
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- dont worry I'll wait!! trinity was never mentioned by jesus(pbuh -UNQUOTE- Jesus, in fact, does mention the TRINITY. Matt 28:19 & John 10:30 But Jesus also mentions both separately. Matt 12:31-32, John 14:26 & John 8:42, John 16:13 Then theres Jesus saying He saw Abraham & Moses! John 8:56 - 58 John 5:46 - 47 Matt 17:2 - 3 All muslims relate 100% to John 8:37 So much so, that Islam created its OW counterfeit Jesus!
god is not the author of confusion ,what ever happend to that verse ,trinity alone over 78% of christians doubt the trinity
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God is NOT. But ur quranic god is! Ur quranic god is the antithesis of Holiness has LIMITED powers b/c muslims ur god canNOT be a “man”! Ur “allah” creates a verse to break Islamic law where Muh’d accepts his daughter-in-law as wife! U cant understand scripture b/c ur an Unbeliever in the TRINITY! MARK 4:11-12 & Matt 13:10-17
b/c whenever we tell u how teachings of jesus means nothing ,u say well we living under a new covenant,how convenient 4 u people ,uv an excuse to not follow jesus
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No muslim can give any proof on Pauls disobedience to Jesus’ teachings. Since his rebirth, Paul has been faithful servant to Jesus w/help of HS (Luke 12:12)
U R the unbeliever here. U don’t believe in HS so all biblical scriptures R closed to U 4 ur understanding, especially Pauls.
what was he just bullshitin the people that it doesnt matter anymore ?? now listen to me im telling u that paul was bullshitin people trying to get people away from the right way
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R U implying Jesus & Paul R bullshitters? B/c Paul prophesied on the false prophet after”profit”, Muh’d? Or that Jesus spoke of His crucifixion & resurrection in many biblical verses like Matt 20:18-19 & refuted by Sura 4:157 thus calling Jesus a liar!
@jefeisdguard lol paul and jesus are not on the same page buddy ,im telling u that paul was bullshitin, jesus was right ,where u going with this?? jesus never come to the earth to change the laws of moses ,which means that the laws of moses are correct,he said it himself, and islam follows the laws which means we are perfect in the eyes of moses and jesus (pbut) ,paul is the only one who changed the laws of moses
jesus told u that u will be accountable for your own sins ,he said u should circumsize , he forbid swine,he said god is one ,he said so many things that christians dont do anymore why???
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Jesus also said He was CRUCIFIED! But do YOU believe that?
Jesus reaffirmes the Trinity. Called God as ONE. The one God is PLURAL for “ELOHIM”
Unlike the OT we are accountable 4 our sins BUT its easier now b/c all we need do is BELIEVE Jesus died 4 us (Matt 20:28)
monotheistic christians on right track,but u who believe in trinity ,think hard , dont be mislead by false prophets ,fine u dont wanna believe muh’d ,than believe jesus ,believe him ,but paul?? no way he is true
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Mono Christians R easily persuaded to Trinities existence.
Muh’d NOT Paul is a false prophet.
We’ve the real Jesus, Islam has FAKE Jesus. We don’t call Jesus a LIAR as does Islam. U believe in ur quranic Jesus or the bible Jesus? Which one came 1st?
@jefeisdguard lol it is the same jesus , except that u know less about him ,we know him in a way that not only people recognized him but god told us about him in the quran ,and it has more details about him ,we dont need historians proof ,the quran speaks for itself ,imagine this ,u people have historians to back u up,we dont but islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world ,now thats just awesome!!!!!!!!! lol
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- christianity is supposd to be the closest religion to islam.. why?? because we both believe in one god ,and we both believe jesus is the true messiah -UNQUOTE- PLAGIARISMS. Islam “borrowed” our: -prophets -some attributes to Jesus & gave them to their pagan god, allah -likenesses of Jesus, Mary & disciples by making counterfeit copies -belief in Abrahams son, Isaac, but attributed this belief to Ishmael & somehow Muh’d begat allegedly from seed of Ishmael
@jefeisdguard lol ,plagiarisms?? we believe in the god of abraham ,imagine this ok ,its like i say i believe that harvard is a good university ,u believe it too,but u tell me that its not the same one that i believe in ,wtf!! it is one thing ,how can u say that it is different without any knowledge what so ever... how arrogant!! lol do u believe in the same god that the jews believe in?? if yes than u should ask them why they pray at our mosque and not your church
paul prophecised muhammad(pbuh) ?? where was this ?
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Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Whilst all other prophets talked DIRECTLY w/God, Muh’d did not.
He received revelations(w/o witnesses mind U) from an angel we believe was Satan (2 Cor 11:14) He received a NEW GOSPEL, Islam(Al Tekayya)
You said: -QUOTE- islam follows the laws which means we R perfect in eyes of moses & jesus -UNQUOTE- WRONG! Islam calls Jesus a liar w/Sura 4:157 John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 5:45 “… there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust” 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
@jefeisdguard lmao ,where on earth does it sat that jesus is wrong!!! he didnt make that up,we are saying that u people are wrong... because u didnt kill him lol ,u the one who is making jesus a liar and saying that he claimed to be god ,when he never.. paul is the one who is making jesus teachings look like it is worth nothing oh and thanks for those verses i been lookin for them ,now i use it against u,why dont u follow the teachings of moses???????read what jesus said plz!!!!!!!!!
he said for had ye believed moses,ye would have believed me ,for he wrote of me.but if ye believe not in his writings,how shall ye believe my words... HELLO!!! moses believe him ,before u say that u believe jesus ,according to paul u dont have to follow the laws ,but according to jesus ,if u dont than u cant believe him ,lol and that is exactly what christians do,u believe in paul and forget jesus and moses (pbut)
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- but islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world ,now thats just awesome!!!!!!!!! -UNQUOTE- What an ignorant analogy. Why do all of U copy from the same book? Still plagiarizing? Ok, heres one for u to think about. So what if Islam is the fastest what does that mean? Should we all have 4 wives & more kids? Or would the 3 billion Chinese Buddhists (if there were) be the greatest religion b/c of numbers?
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- we dont need historians proof ,the quran speaks for itself ,imagine this ,u people have historians to back u up,we dont -UNQUOTE- Islam is dirty, evil & Satanic. It has been proven FALSE. Islam needs 2B cleansed thru authentic witnesses. Why lie to protect ur god? He that powerless? Dueteronomy 19:15 at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. Matt 18:16 John 8:17 -18 John 5:36 -37 Heb 10:28
You said: -QUOTE- its same jesus , xcept that u know less about him ,we know him in a way not only people recognized him but god told us about him in quran & it has more details about him -UNQUOTE- I agree. Muslims know more about their Jesus than I do. W/o proof, Islams counterfeit Jesus created 600 yrs after the real one; speaks while a baby, talks to allah & says hes a muslim. Even tho God demands witnesses, Islam doesn’t need any. Guess that makes Islam pretty special, ehhhh?
@jefeisdguard haha!! we got the quran as its own witness ,imagine this lol ,it hasnt been changed for 1400 years!!!!god doesnt need any witnesses lmao!!! since when does god need to show himself that he is correct,we believe that the quran is from god ,and yes we are special :-) i love my religion
it is one thing ,how can u say that it is different without any knowledge what so ever... how arrogant!! lol do u believe in the same god that the jews believe in?? if yes than u should ask them why they pray at our mosque and not your church
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They are different.
Ours can turn into a man & urs cant! Abraham/Jacob saw God as a man!
Ours doesn’t recognize Ishmael, urs in fact; doesn’t either!
Who cares why they pray at ur Mosque? Serving kosher food?
plagiarisms?? we believe in the god of abraham ,imagine this ok ,its like i say i believe that harvard is a good university ,u believe it too,but u tell me that its not the same one that i believe in ,wtf!!
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There is Harvard Law University with all its other names & there is Harvard community college in some rural area.
Islams deceptions means they attend the smaller college pretend it’s the bigger one thereby fooling all who hear their message
@jefeisdguard lol omg u dont get the point ,anyway... i was trying to say that it is not what u think u believing in ,it is who u believe in ,if i say that i believe in the same god jesus did ,than it is him ,and islam is safe because we believe in the god of abraham ,and u say that too but u believe that jesus is god lol,did abraham ever say the father the son and holy spirit lmao no one did before paul ,no one!!!!!!
and non of u can prove it wrong, he matched him perfectly ,he said that muhammad (pbuh) will speak what he hears ,and that is how the quran was revealed lol
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We HAVE been proving YOU & Islam wrong all the time! You just ignore the postings!
When did Muh’d have time bwtn all that SEX? Why was it ONLY Muh’d who was boasted to have the libido to 30 men? Of all prophets, Muh’d is a nympho?
@jefeisdguard the sex stories is bullshit about muhammad(pbuh) , u christians seriously have sick minds lol ,well even if it were true ,he still is the true prophet and wow!! libido of 30men than he is one lucky prophet!!! im sure the wives loved him, and are u jealous that you have a low libido or something? sex is a blessing from god aint it?? and those are just lies about him having that but even if it were true makes no difference,u makin like sex is a sin,your bible doesnt say marry 1 lady
well jesus(pbuh) was very important ,and paul tried to make himself more important by giving jesus the title of god ,and drawing your attention to his teachings
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Paul was chosen to continue the teachings of Jesus. Jesus didn’t have much time b/c of His crucifixion, resurrection & the Holy Spirit all culminating during those last days.
Paul received all his inspirations thru the HS (Luke 12:12)
Paul was the selfless servant, the antithesis of what Muh’d was
@jefeisdguard lol paul was prophesied to be the false prophet ,jesus never ever said anything good that matched paul ,all the true prophets were prophesied ,and paul was never
if i say that i believe in the same god jesus did ,than it is him ,and islam is safe because we believe in the god of abraham
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WRONG!
How can you? I have asked many times. IF you believe that ur “allah” is the god of Abraham, then why didn’t “allah” protect Islam by [casting out] Ishmael?
This means Islam is false! Islam has NO foundation biblically! Means there are NO true prophets coming by way thru Muh’d! Means PAUL was right & Muh’d is a false prophet!
reason ishmael was no longer heir according to genesis was b/c he mocked isaac ,what a lame excuse
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“lame excuse”? Ishmael was 13 & threatening life of Isaac. Sarah knew Isaac would LOSE the power struggle to come if it wasn’t nipped at the bud. Besides, Ishmael was NOT her son. God agreed. Are YOU calling Gods agreement “lame” too?
Remember, ONLY Isaac was promised by God. Only Isaac was given his name by God & ONLY Isaac was called Abrahams ONLY son, by God.
@jefeisdguard lmao his only son?? god would have said his second son ,for god is not the master of confusion according to the bible,it makes more sense that it is ishmael because the covenant was before isaac was born ,ONLY SON ,doesnt it make more sense to u?? god doesnt favor ,god is clear at what he says ,u people even twist the words of god for your own understanding
@jefeisdguard uhm whats your point?? we also have historians what is the hadith for?? but what im saying is that we dont even need it ,we do have but we dont need proof,its a book that speaks for itself ,we are so blessd
@mafiadondogg You said: -QUOTE- so if you dont believe me about islam being the oldest religion i told u ,type in jewish rabbi admits islam is the oldest religion ,and sit back and watch a rabbi out of all people admitting this ,why do jews prefer islam? -UNQUOTE- So … NOW, N O W you believe Jews? One Jew? Just one Jew? You are kidding me right? We are suppose to BELIEVE YOU B/C YOU BELIEVE IN ONE JEW? Get over urself The ONLY Jew that is important here is Jesus (John 8:24)
@jefeisdguard lol well jesus(pbuh) was very important ,and paul tried to make himself more important by giving jesus the title of god ,and drawing your attention to his teachings ,its like i go to the usa and say that obama is the leader of all presidents in the world and i am the president now ,and change all the rules of obama ,but it doesnt matter because his title is much higher than being just a president hey,truth dont matter
christianity is supposd to be the closest religion to islam.. why?? because we both believe in one god ,and we both believe jesus is the true messiah.. the monotheistic christians are on the right track,but u who believe in the trinity ,think hard , dont be mislead by false prophets ,fine u dont wanna believe muhammad(pbuh) ,than believe jesus ,believe him ,but paul??there is no way that he is true
@jefeisdguard lol ,they have beheaded their wives ,well u wanna see who beheads people more in this world is it muslims or christians ,u people can actually count the amount of muslims who do these things ,but christians do it every day ,murder ,rape,ect is very rare in our muslim society ,we fear god ,and according to islam if u kill innocent people u will go to hell,so how can islam be the cause of this? u people can still get away because u believe that sum1 died for your sins
jesus too said he does miracles thru god ,so i dont know whats ur point,if jesus was god why’d he need permission from himself to do things?
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Cant comprehend how muslims cant think 4 themselves.
Have to ask: “Do muslims think Jesus is STUPID b/c He “talks to Himself?”
Could there be another explanation? Hmmm, maybe He was talking to someone else! Heyyy! Theres an idea & a thought! Lets call the other person “God the Father”!
@mafiadondogg Didn’t talk about carrying a cross? Are YOU kidding me? Have ur thinking cap on? HOW ELSE DID ALL WHO WERE CRUCIFIED BY ROMANS, DIE? C’mon, THINK! Of course Jesus carried a cross, what were those nail holes in His hands from? Bolts from a metal I-Beam? The devil knew Muh’d personally by giving him the doctrine of lying, Al Tekayya, when posing as Gabriel (2 Cor 11:14). Got witnesses? Devil knew Paul & Jesus & was afraid of Jesus (Acts 19:15) (James 2:19)
Holy.... Not Holly
karma45801 5 days ago
It was the original manuscripts that were inspired by God and inerrant, not the text we have today. The modern Bible is inerrant to the degree that it is an accurate representation of the original. A scribe may make an error, but that is not an error of the original text. So the question is: how confident are we that we know what the ORIGINAL text said? We have thousands upon thousands of copies early centuries, which gives plenty of evidence to compare documents and find where errors occurred.
Bongobutt123 2 months ago
hue and cry over the death coffin of chrisitianity !!!!!!!! nothing else... if you know that there are errors why do not your pope and pastors confess in public... power of jesus could not correct these errors ??? that is what you want to say ????? cowards liars !!!
saqibmani1980 5 months ago
I died laughing at your choice of music, and Islam is horse shit rapist pedofiles titty urine eating and drinking whore bags
computerguru37 7 months ago
@computerguru37 get lost you looser !!!!
saqibmani1980 5 months ago
@computerguru37
speak to yourself, the Bible tells you to have sex with a three-year-old... so, you're the pedophiles !
DarkestSide1000 3 months ago
@DarkestSide1000 Actually that's the Quran, fucking moron. Why don't you go fuck little 8 year old kids like you terrorist Ahmad or muhhamad or whatever did.
computerguru37 3 months ago
@computerguru37
go on... read your Bible first, slick... that's in YOUR Bible... and you Bible thumping Baby Sprinklers only got that to counterfire huh? That's cliched and weak, pogue !
Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40.
So, why don't you just go fuck 3-year-old like whatever the hell your corrupted, distorted, stupid Bible said.
DarkestSide1000 3 months ago
Laughable and pathelic! This is a transcription error. Nothing more. The difference between muslims and Christians is that Christians have never claim that there was no error in the transcription of the Bible. It's little errors, but there is no meaningful or contradiction errors.
However, in the koran, contradictions & meaningful errors are multiplied according to the fantiasies of muhammad. Muhammad hangs himself with his own words.
You muslims better stop making yourselves ridiculous.
liduq 8 months ago
@liduq
really? anything else? Transcription errors lead to corruption of a Scripture.
DarkestSide1000 3 months ago
2 Kings 8 At that the king said to Haz´a·el: “Take a gift in your hand and go and meet the man of the [true] God, and you must inquire of Jehovah through him, saying, ‘Shall I revive from this sickness?’” NOT WHAT YOU SAY IT SAYS
JubblyJack 8 months ago
The holy bible has been translater atlreast 3 times as to the copy you read now. let man translate something 3 times and you will see errors of somekind. if you want errors in something let man translate it !
turtle4aire 9 months ago
2 cHRONICLES 22 And the rest of A·bi´jah’s affairs, even his ways and his words, are written in the exposition of the prophet Id´do.
wHAT BIBLE is he quoting? Or is he making it up?
JubblyJack 8 months ago
I cannot believe the stupidity of people who use the faults, & there are many in the Bible, to prove the efficacy of the Koran when the Koran was derived from the Old & New Testaments using characters found in the older book. This is a very basic tenant, If you write a book, Koran, based on what you find in a book of lies, eg the Bible, then you have also written a book of lies.You CANNOT write a whole bunch of lies extracted from one book & put it in another book then present it as the truth.
kanakaken 9 months ago
Islam is evil and perverted
Calvaryspeaks 10 months ago
@Calvaryspeaks nope you are wrong, ur mind is perverted
DARIANSEAD 9 months ago
That is definitely a contradiction. Tough luck Christians.
john17972 10 months ago 2
This infact does not prove anything. The fact it has 2 different ages for a king proves nothing, it simply means God has placed a stumbling block for fools. Also he most definatly wasnt 42 at his reign then, use your common sence. Im kind of tired for your justification that the bible is flawed because you dont understand it. Let me pose this to you, if this world is a test and God is our teacher, would he not make the exam hard? The fact you koran is easy to understand in no way helps
MrWaterlionmonkey 11 months ago
@MrWaterlionmonkey By all means, the qu'ran is not a simple book you can understand easily. I had to read it a lot of times to really understand it. And please, don't say shit like that. I bet you never even read the qu'ran.
AlpineGuitars 10 months ago
GOD SAID=WORD ;CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
lovercamalion 1 year ago
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lovercamalion 1 year ago
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JESUS SAID: THE HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS BUT NOT MY WORD!
JUST A REFERENCE:JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
lovercamalion 1 year ago
Amalek = Arabs South of Israel
Philista = Palestinian Refugees and Hamas of Gaza Strip
Inhabitants of Tyre = Hezbollah and Southern Lebanese
Assyria = Syrians and perhaps Northern Iraqis included
Children of Lot = Moab and Ammon=Palestinian Refugees and Central and Northern Jordanians
lovercamalion 1 year ago
Psalm 83 Coalition:
Tents of Edom = [decedents of Esau] Palestinian Refugees and Southern Jordanians
Ishmaelites = Saudi Arabians
Moab = Palestinian Refugees and Central Jordanians
Hagrites = Egyptians
Gebal = Northern Lebanese
Ammon = Palestinian Refugees and Northern Jordanians
lovercamalion 1 year ago
they form a confederacy against You: 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab and the Hagrites; 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assyria also has joined with them; they have helped the children of Lot. Selah
lovercamalion 1 year ago
Psalm 83:1-8
1 Do not keep silent, O God! Do not hold Your peace, and do not be still, O God! 2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult; and those who hate You have lifted up their head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, and consulted together against Your sheltered ones. 4 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” 5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
lovercamalion 1 year ago
TELL ME ABOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS ON THIS PROPHECY!
WHAT I SEE IN THE NEWS IS ALL THIS NATIONS OR PEOPLE GETTING TOGETHER TO ATTACK ISRAEL. ALL BECAUSE OF (ISLAM) AND THIS PROPHECY WAS WRITEN HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE ISLAM!
NOW EXPLAIN THIS PROPHECY TO ME, IF YOU CAN! THIS IS WHY WE BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD! THE FULFILLMENTS OF PROPHECYS DECLARES THE AUTHORITY OF THE WORD OF GOD.
lovercamalion 1 year ago
the music is shit ! is this some muhj rap?
wowheed 1 year ago
Islam loves to tout biblical errors. Notables like Bart Erhman says much of the bibles errors was b/c of translations copied many times over in many languages by hand resulting in faulty record keeping in livestock or peoples ages.
We are a unrighteous, sinful natured people always in error!
The REAL challenge for muslims is to find ERRORS & contradicitions solely on the words of Jesus in the NT.
Jesus speaks the words of God (John 7:16) The words of Jesus are perfect.
Try to find errors there
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard jesus is not the one who makes any errors ,he is a true prophet and messiah of god,paul and other translators of the bible are the ones who are in error ,oh and here is one error Matthew 13:31-32 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
@mafiadondogg
Interesting! Are YOU contextualizing?
At the very time Jesus told this parable do you think any of the people there knew what a "poppy seed" was?
Probably not. Jesus used the reference of a mustard seed b/c they all knew what a mustard seed was. But a poppy seed? This was from the "plant of joy" given to making opium or herbs for cures. Dont think Jesus wanted to give a poppy seed much advertisement, do you?
Man makes errors, true. Jesus doesnt, yet Islam calls Jesus a liar
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard ok firstly ,the poppy seed was discovered many years BC ,but anyway even so ,where do we say that he is a liar?? we say that all the people lied about him ,even if it is good lies which praise him it is still wrong ,but according to islam he was never wrong ,christianity says that he is a liar by showing that he said i am the son of man ,and saying that he is god,where as he believed in the commandments of moses and with that its not possible to be god
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard hahahahahaha!!!!! surah 4:157 is saying that u people are liars not jesus(pbuh) because u are not the followers of jesus but paul..and u are in doubt ,jesus never said he was crucified,he never said he will die for ur sins ,u and paul say so with no valid evidence what so ever... because firstly ur calculations are wrong ,another thing is no one witnessd the crucifiction ,it was "privately" done
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard jesus was never crucified ,but god took him up ,he didnt even talk about a cross ,he didnt even carry a cross ,he didnt even say that he will die for the sin of adam and eve ...that is what u people say with the help of a false prophet named paulie ,he makes u believe all this crap that never happend to christ
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard uhm so what are u saying?? what about moses?? god made him a god to pharaoh ,but does that make him our creator?? what about muslim people who are named after allah's 99 names?? does that make them god ,but u know what is so great about god?? is that no one is named allah :-) no prophet ,or no one was called that..
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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God gave Moses power but only thru the staff held by Aaron.
In all the miracles Moses did, he did it in the name of God, Jehovah.
Elohim = plural for God
Ridiculous to suggest man has powers
Muh’ds family name is also called “allah”.
Makes one wonder why Muh’d liked the word “allah”, ehhh?
Islam STOLE 7 of the 99 attributes meant for Jesus but they also created one meant for SATAN attributed to “allah”!
Al-Mutakabbir = The Greatest = The Proud One = is also Satans attribute
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao but jesus too said that he does miracles through god ,so i dont know whats ur point,if jesus(pbuh) was god why would he need permission from himself to do things? and no he was not crucified again,when he was on the cross he said my god my god why have u forsaken me ...so wtf?? how on earth could he have known he will be crucified?
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jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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and no he was not crucified again,when he was on the cross he said my god my god why have u forsaken me ...so wtf??
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Jesus prophesied His crucifixion in Matt 20:18-19 & a dozen more biblical verses besides OT! God the Father NEVER left Jesus except once when all worlds sins were upon Jesus on the cross. Why Jesus said what He said. God left, Jesus wiped away our sins wHis blood & God came back.
We were 4given. 4 eternal life we MUST believe He died for us & repent
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard ok so if u were forgiven only after jesus had to die,then everyone before jesus crucifixion went to hell?? wow!!! how unfortunate of them ,moses went to hell,abraham went to hell? david went to hell? wow that sounds cruel,imagine that saying as sinless as a new born baby?? makes no sense because if he doesnt except christ as his lord and saviour ,his heading for satans location ,poor babys that die..its sad hey
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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moses went to hell,abraham went to hell? david went to hell? wow that sounds cruel,imagine that saying as sinless as a new born baby??
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Are you being sarcastic or just plain stupid?
Why would God send these prophets to hell? Muh’d, I can understand.
After all, no other prophet ever married a child, or their daughter-in-law, had countless wives, concubines, raped women, robbed men of their lives, wives, women & wealth.
Yep. Muh’d I believe is IN HELL.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard u said that jesus died for all mankids sins ,without him dying we could never get heaven ,so how did those prophets get heaven if jesus never sacrificed himself yet ?? makes any sense ?? and if u say that they are prophets thats y they didnt go to hell ,than all muslims who follow the way of islam will go to heaven because we are commanded to follow the ways of the prophets like jesus and moses ,and u judging muhammad(pbuh) over false shit u dont know ,he was perfect
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jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard so islam tells us to do it that complicated way exactly what u saying ,we dont just get heaven out of nothing ,and jesus never said u will just get heaven ,paul said that ,that is why he is a false prophet ,non of the prophets said that u would get it the easy way like paul said ,it makes no sense and contradicts the teachings of the abrahamic prophets
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard ok firstly he didnt have sex with her till the age of puberty ,when did he rape non muslim girls? show sum evidence and before u do that ,check up the meaning of the word rape, he never married them to satisfy himself ,he married women who needed a family ,and then u go on saying things that has no evidence just listening to sick christians talk typical.. muhammad (pbuh) created a muslim world and all our countries have the least crime rates,aids ,and we give charity
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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and if u say that they are prophets thats y they didnt go to hell ,than all muslims who follow the way of islam will go to heaven because we are commanded to follow the ways of the prophets like jesus and moses
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Islam followed THEIR own quranic counterfeit Jesus not the real bible Jesus. Since when did the REAL biblical Jesus speak as a baby? Or Talk to allah? Or say He was a muslim? When did Mary & disciples talk to allah & say they are muslims?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard that is something that u urself dont know lol ,so why u talking so much?? about jesus and mary talking to allah, jesus was definitly a muslim because he followed the commandments of moses and he believed that he is the christ (messiah) so where are the odds?? a jew that believes jesus is the messiah is a muslim duh!!
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u said that jesus died for all mankids sins ,without him dying we could never get heaven ,so how did those prophets get heaven if jesus never sacrificed himself yet ?? makes any sense ??
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I told you already. The laws were different than they are today. It is YOUR Islamic tenets that don’t make sense. Why do women need four witnesses to prove they have been raped? Why does Islam treat their women like slaves? Interesting that Ishmaels mother was a slave, ehhh?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard four witnesses to prove they been raped or made zina ,u people are really sick minded may god be with u,if a man and women have sex behind marriage then they need four witnesses to prove that it happend before they receive punishment,if a girl is raped in abu dhabi where i live then the man will be sentenced to death my friend ,that is the way of the prophet muhammad(pbuh)
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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paul said that ,that is why he is a false prophet ,non of the prophets said that u would get it the easy way like paul said ,it makes no sense and contradicts the teachings of the abrahamic prophets
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Paul? A false prophet? Paul complimented Jesus. Btwn Paul & Muh’d ONLY Paul followed the teaching s of Jesus! When did Muh’d follow ONE word from Jesus? None of the prophets came after Jesus, only Paul. Jesus brought us a new covenant as foretold in Jerem 31:31
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard hahahaha paul followed the teachings of moses?? hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! how on earth did paul follow jesus?? he took away the religion of jesus which is judaism that believes he is the messiah ,how on earth could paul follow jesus?? christians are not the people of jesus.. u are the people of paul , jesus came for the children of israel ,i dont know where u people fit in hey ,he said that people will call him god and he will pretend like he doesnt know u lol wow!!
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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muhammad (pbuh) created a muslim world and all our countries have the least crime rates,aids ,and we give charity
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When YOU say Islamic countries have the LEAST crime rates, you should understand how the media there wont allow negative reports of any crime rates that could affect how the world perceives Islam!
I doubt they are given any freedom to do so.
Btw, America is the most the GENEROUS in the world, inasfar as charity; not Islam
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao ,u forgetting that america too has a large population of muslims ,nah its not the muslims who show the crime rates ect,people from all over the world research these things by going country to country themselvs to investigate ,and we have the least ,christian people wont protect us
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show sum evidence and before u do that ,check up the meaning of the word rape, he never married them to satisfy himself ,he married women who needed a family
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Some Jihadis had sex w/captive women in presence of their husbands
Sunaan Abu Dawud: Bk 11, # 2150
One can have sexual intercourse w/captive woman after clear of her period or delivery. If shes a husband then her marriage is abrogated after captured (Quran 4:24 )…(Shahih Muslim 8.3432)
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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he believed that he is the christ (messiah) so where are the odds?? a jew that believes jesus is the messiah is a muslim duh!!
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Does Jesus LIE? Well? Does He? Muslim is a word that did NOT exist 2,000 yrs ago
John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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about jesus and mary talking to allah, jesus was definitly a muslim because he followed the commandments of moses
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There were NO muslims 2,000 yrs ago. Whats wrong w/all muslims? Why the lie?
The fuzzy math doesn’t work here. IF there were such a thing as a muslim there would be evidence in the bible! Or history books! Islam wants everyone to think being a “muslim” is as normal as having a “soul”.
But muslims are associated w/death, violence & sex, too bad
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard there were always muslims ,are u a fool? do u know what the word muslim means? if one surrenders to god ,all the prophets believed that god was greater than them ,so that makes them muslims the one who follows the right path ,if u type in jewish rabbi admits islam is the oldest religion u will c,muhammad is only a prophet confirming jesus and moses and the other prophets ,he didnt confirm paul thats why u people hate him
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if a girl is raped in abu dhabi where i live then the man will be sentenced to death my friend ,that is the way of the prophet muhammad(pbuh)
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No. Muh’d NEVER did this. If the situation was NOT to Muh’ds favor … Muh’d always INVENTED a quranic verses or hadith to make the situation ok thru the NEW revelations from “allah”! Bukhari 4721 & Bukhari:V4B52N203
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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4 witnesses to prove they been raped or made zina ,u people are really sick minded may god be w/u
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Any NON-muslim woman can be OWNED thus RAPED by any muslim during war! Muslims can rape anyone they possess w/their right hand. We seem 2B at war w/muslims b/c they LIE to us constantly & all muslim women can be BEATEN just 4 talking to any man. Shows ‘insecurity’ of muslim men.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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i dont know where u people fit in hey ,he said that people will call him god and he will pretend like he doesnt know u lol wow!!
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Hmmm, maybe it is b/c what He said in Matt 4:7, 10 & Luke 4:8,12!
Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Of course, cant expect U to understand what a Litmus Test is when Jesus said only God is GOOD, ehhh? Is Jesus GOOD?
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how on earth did paul follow jesus?? he took away the religion of jesus which is judaism that believes he is the messiah ,how on earth could paul follow jesus??
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In all his writings, Paul honors Jesus Christ saying he is but a servant & in many cases brings PROOF of the TRINTY by commenting on God the Father too!
Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol but paul was a false prophet ,he matches what jesus said about false prophets,do u want me to show it to u?? a perfect match! how could he be a true prophet if he did everything jesus(pbuh) described a false prophet to be ,changing things ,ok i have a challenge for u.. do u believe that the commandments is the only way to eternity?? yes or no ,if u say yes than u believe jesus because that is what he said ,and if u say no than u are a paul follower lets see who u choose
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
god is not the author of confusion ,what ever happend to that verse ,trinity alone over 78% of christians doubt the trinity so how can that be from god?? dont worry I'll wait!! trinity was never mentioned by jesus(pbuh) how can your salvation not be mentioned by your own god ,if it were true it would have been mentioned thousands of times,but guess what is mentioned thousands of time?? the lord thy god is one god VS the father the son and the holy spirit is one combined being
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
paulie never followed jesus(pbuh) he made it look like the teachings of jesus meant nothing to us but he did it in a style ,he distracted u by the whole sacrifice for sins on the cross ,he drew your attention there while he corrupted the teachings of jesus,and u people fell for it ,because when ever we tell u how the teachings of jesus means nothing ,u say well we living under a new covenant,how convenient for u people ,u have an excuse to not follow jesus(pbuh)
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jesus told u that u will be accountable for your own sins ,he said u should circumsize , he forbid swine,he said god is one ,he said so many things that christians dont do anymore why??? "because we living under a new covenant" .. that gives an excuse to forget the teachings of your god?? what was he just bullshitin the people that it doesnt matter anymore ?? now listen to me im telling u that paul was bullshitin people trying to get people away from the right way
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c,muhammad is only a prophet confirming jesus and moses and the other prophets ,he didnt confirm paul thats why u people hate him
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Actually, Paul prophesied about Muhammads coming & that is WHY ISLAM HATES PAUL! We don’t hate Paul. The devil knows Paul & Jesus (Acts 19:15)
Btw, Muh’d is NOT a true prophet b/c Ishmael is NOT the son of Abraham.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol ,paul prophecised muhammad(pbuh) ?? where was this ? so u telling me if your mum was a slave ,and your dad made her pregnant ,u wouldnt be his biological son?? well i wonder where u learn your things ,but in gods eyes we are all equal ,and moses prophesied that genesis would be corrupted ,wow!! and according to the commentry of the bible it was corrupted ,so do u still believe that ishmael is not a biological son?
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there were always muslims ,are u a fool? do u know what the word muslim means? if one surrenders to god ,all the prophets believed that god was greater than them ,so that makes them muslims
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WRONG! The word “muslim” is a made up word. You know for a fact that if all prophets were to speak NONE would consider themselves “muslims”
Muslims have associated themselves w/death, SEX, power & deception.
There is NOTHING kool about being a “muslim”, nothing.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol so if you dont believe me about islam being the oldest religion i told u ,type in jewish rabbi admits islam is the oldest religion ,and sit back and watch a rabbi out of all people admitting this ,why do jews prefer islam? because we believe in the same god lol ,what was jesus(pbuh) ?? a jew!! and he believed that he is the messiah ,so we are more like him than u are..plus he used muhammads name as the comforter lol it gets better and better
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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but christians do it every day ,murder ,rape,ect is very rare in our muslim society ,we fear god ,and according to islam if u kill innocent people u will go to hell,so how can islam be the cause of this?
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Unfortunately, what muslims say verbally & what they say is in the quran are two different things in the REAL WORLD!
Islam is NOT peaceful but very violent. There IS compulsion to violence & Islam does KILL innocent people all-the-time!
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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in gods eyes we are all equal ,and moses prophesied that genesis would be corrupted ,wow!! and according to the commentry of the bible it was corrupted ,so do u still believe that ishmael is not a biological son?
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How is Genesis corrupted again? Why do YOU dispute the word of God consistently & have faith in the unproven & untested words of the quran?
Ishmael, according to God, is NO LONGER the son of Abraham.
Like twisting my words, hmmm?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard book of genesis corrupted check NIV Bible Commentary, page 2 ,it says that the bible has been tampered with , and its true because isaac was born after the covenant lol , and the covenant was sealed already,the reason ishmael and was no longer the heir according to genesis was because he mocked isaac ,what a lame excuse ,according to your own bible genesis was corrupted and it makes sense because everyone knows how corrupt jews are even jesus said it
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
it makes sense that they corrupted it because it has contradictions ,and suits the jews well,"we are the chosen people" lol ,but they should have got a better person to make up that lie
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so u telling me if your mum was a slave ,and your dad made her pregnant ,u wouldnt be his biological son??
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True. I would be the biological son but I am NOT the named “inheritor”
Think of it as a court case. One son has been removed from the family will.
Sure hes related by blood & DNA but he & his family inherit NOTHING from the dads fortune. While the only remaining son builds business after business.
Muhammadians are NOT co-inheritors to Isaacs covenant
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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plus he used muhammads name as the comforter lol it gets better and better
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The VERY FACT he used Muh’ds name as “comforter” speaks “volumes” on his intelligence & “sanity”!
How could a pedophile pirate prophet after ‘profit” who robbed men of their lives, wives, women & wealth & raped women be considered a “comforter”?
Muh’d beheaded, torn apart & burned some alive.
How comforting is that thought if u were his prisoner & he didn’t like u, hmmm?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao,now u continue to insult the man when the truth is thrown infront of u,jesus (pbuh) prophesied him ,and non of u can prove it wrong, he matched him perfectly ,he said that muhammad (pbuh) will speak what he hears ,and that is how the quran was revealed lol ,that verse matches him exactly like the verse of the false prophet matches paul ..how ironic lol
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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that verse matches him exactly like the verse of the false prophet matches paul ..how ironic lol
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ONLY Muh’d spoke to an angel, w/NO witnesses. Even PAUL had witnesses! Satan was an angel. Satan POSED as Gabriel. If Gabriel were the true angel of God, this meeting would have been recorded in the bible or prophesied about it. The father liars gave Muh’d the doctrine of LYING!
How fitting & how logical this makes. The religion of deception, Islam.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol u forgetting that paul saw visions too?? he saw visions of jesus,how do u know that it was really jesus that he saw ?? wait lets see ,lets compare ,how manyt muslims in jail compared to christians ,which countries have the highest crime rates ,which countries are the most religious?? muslims or christians u decide ,does satan want u to do right things or wrong things
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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lmao,now u continue to insult the man when the truth is thrown infront of u,jesus (pbuh) prophesied him
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Sorry, WRONG!!!!!
Jesus NEVER ever prophesied about Muhammad, NEVER!
How can an insult be an insult if the information comes from your own hadiths?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol he prophesied muhammad weather u like it or not ,ahmad is the aramaic name for muhammad ,now would he put ahmad if it wasnt ahmad ,think properly dont be ignorant
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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u say that too but u believe that jesus is god lol,did abraham ever say the father the son and holy spirit lmao no one did before paul ,no one!!!!!!
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Actually, as I have stated before ONLY Islam claims God can NOT be a man. Jesus is God, became a man & was there with Abraham & Jacob in the OT!
Inasfar as the TRINITY?
All three were there with Abraham! Genesis 18:1- 2
Only “allah” & Islam would be the liar in this instance
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol if u know judaism u will see that god cant be a man ,so that makes islam and judaism, and that makes jesus believe that god cant be a man ,so where on earth does paul find that god can be a man, let me make this clear ,god CAN become a man if he wants to,he has no limitations ,but why would he wanna become a man ,and the christian reason for him becoming a man is totally absurd..so dont even think about using that reason
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
well why dont the jews believe in 3 of them lol ,jesus would have made it clear to the jews ,and do u know why i bring up the crime rates ect?? because of the verse where jesus(pbuh) said beware of the false prophets by their fruits u shall recognize the good people ,so u judge from the crime ect ,go and visit the prisons
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genesis was corrupted & makes sense b/c everyone knows how corrupt jews are even jesus said it
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Just b/c Jews were found 2B corrupted in bible doesn’t mean the BOOK itself is the reason! What kind of logic is that? Grasping at straws R we? Jesus came here & Jews wanted to KILL Him for impersonating a GOD!
Tell me; how would have the bible story been different had Jesus NOT been crucified as depicted & revealed instead all His powers as He said in Matt 28:18?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard uhm we on a whole different page here ,we talking about ishmael and isaac ,why didnt jesus say that ishmael is not a biological son? and a false prophet will come and create a religion that christians will convert to and have a better life after that and be grounded spiritually ?? and do the exact things that he taught ,and be like him,if u say that the muslim way is wrong u are saying that jesus way was wrong lol
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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its true because isaac was born after the covenant lol and the covenant was sealed already
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There were TWO covenants given by God. The first was the covenant of circumcision. This included all family & workers of Abraham
Had NOTHING to do w/prophethood as Islam wants it to be.
The 2nd is a covenant given to Isaac B4 he was born. Ishmael was NEVER given any covenant, especially in respect to prophethood to his descendants.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao ok then if ishmael was a cast away why was he called a son at the funeral ?? u people fell for the jews,jesus(pbuh) said that they are liars ,moses too said that ,and both jesus and moses PBUT were not fond of the jews ,but no christians believe the jews because u wanna protect paulie , u dont care what the truth is
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book of genesis corrupted check NIV Bible Commentary, page 2 ,it says that the bible has been tampered with , and its true because isaac
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WRONG! You are fabricating an excuse w/o KNOWING where any alleged corruption lies.
Bring FACTUAL evidence NOT your opinion trying to legitimize Islam
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it makes sense that they corrupted it because it has contradictions ,and suits the jews well,"we are the chosen people" lol ,but they should have got a better person to make up that lie
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Yes, the Jews were chosen & they screwed things up for themselves many times in the OT.
Whichs why Jesus & Paul preached to the Gentiles; that’d be anyone NOT Jewish!
Matt 12:18 & 21, Matt 8:11, Matt 6:32, Gal 3:8, Luke 2:32, Isaiah 60:3
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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oh and thanks for those verses i been lookin for them ,now i use it against u,why dont u follow the teachings of moses???????
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No problem. Too bad you don’t listen to Gods words about Ishmael yet wanna pay close attention to the defunct Mosaic Laws by man! Yes defunct! Moses created those laws that were copied from his Egyptian predecessors. Still don’t get do you?
Jesus was there w/Abraham & Moses! John 8:56 - 58 John 5:46 - 47
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol sorry i couldnt reply to some of your things didnt see it because people are spamming u,goes to show that u not making any sense ,jesus was with abraham and moses?? n u say that jesus is god ? the laws state that there were no other gods before and will be no god after god ,so how was jesus there? u people mistook the I AM verse to fit your understanding... u still never told me why u dont follow the commandments of moses u dont follow jesus
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jesus said if u dont follow moses u cant follow him ,why dont u follow moses?? admit to me that u follow paul and not jesus ,im safe because i am a muslim ,imagine this ,i have the permission to be like jesus ,everything that he did ,i can do it like him ,will that stop me from going to heaven?? answer yes or no,if i do everything like jesus will i go to heaven or not?? if u say no it means that u saying jesus wasnt a perfect person ,its simple
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
and i want a proper answer dont tell me of satan ect.. im not interested ,we have the jews as back up that we have the same god , because to them u people are totally insane by calling the son of man god , u people not supposed to change any of the laws ,like jesus said ,u just supposed to recognize that he is the messiah period ,and u supposed to repent for your sins ,he wouldnt have said that if he knew that u will be saved lol by killing himself
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Actually? Yes he did! In Matt 4:7, 10 & Luke 4:8, 12 Also in John 10:36 &
Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmfao u dont understand your own bible,dont u know what is quotation marks?? 31. But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you,
32. `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
what god said ,not what jesus said ,or what i said ,god said he is the god.. jesus never claimed to be god in no verse ,why do u think muslims always win debates??eg. ahmed deedat,zakir naik
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but according to jesus ,if u dont than u cant believe him ,lol and that is exactly what christians do,u believe in paul and forget jesus and moses
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Jesus meant NONE had followed the Mosaic Laws but had perverted them as Islam does today!
These were CHANGED! Jesus brought us a NEW covenant! Islam is living in the PAST! Jere 31:31 says so.
Paul compliments Jesus & IS why Islam & SATAN HATE PAUL!
SATAN KNOWS PAUL & KNOWS JESUS! Acts 19:15
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol satan only knows paul because they are one ,like jesus said the father and i are one ,paul should say satan and i are one ,because its true
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
@mafiadondogg
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since when does god need to show himself that he is correct,we believe that the quran is from god ,and yes we are special :-) i love my religion
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Even Jesus had witnesses to whatever He said. So Islam/quran needs them too!
Matt 18:16 John 8:17 -18 John 5:36 -37
Ur quran is from which again? The one that doesn’t recognize Islam?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard we do have witnesses which is the hadith ,u misunderstood things ,and got carried away by the witnesses thing ,goes to show how desperate u are
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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ok i have a challenge for u.. do u believe that the commandments is the only way to eternity?? yes or no
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Just as ALL muslims are living in OT times, so too is ur lack of knowledge on the commandments REFINED by Jesus in Matthew chapter 5 & 6
Muslims, unfortunately pray OPENLY & repetitiously which is a NO-NO by Jesus in Matt 6:5-7
Btw, KISSING a Black Stone idol is the carry-over tradition by Quraysh & Hindus
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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do u want me to show it to u?? a perfect match! how could he be a true prophet if he did everything jesus(pbuh) described a false prophet to be ,changing things
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Jesus met Paul as a light & a voice. Muh’d had neither. Saul became Paul in his rebirth. Paul who knew NOTHING about Jesus INSTANTLY became knowledgable thru Luke 12:12 & Matthew 10:19 -20
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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god is not the author of confusion ,what ever happend to that verse ,trinity alone over 78% of christians doubt the trinity
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God is NOT. But ur quranic god is! Ur quranic god is the antithesis of Holiness has LIMITED powers b/c muslims ur god canNOT be a “man”! Ur “allah” creates a verse to break Islamic law where Muh’d accepts his daughter-in-law as wife! U cant understand scripture b/c ur an Unbeliever in the TRINITY! MARK 4:11-12 & Matt 13:10-17
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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b/c whenever we tell u how teachings of jesus means nothing ,u say well we living under a new covenant,how convenient 4 u people ,uv an excuse to not follow jesus
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No muslim can give any proof on Pauls disobedience to Jesus’ teachings. Since his rebirth, Paul has been faithful servant to Jesus w/help of HS (Luke 12:12)
U R the unbeliever here. U don’t believe in HS so all biblical scriptures R closed to U 4 ur understanding, especially Pauls.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@mafiadondogg
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what was he just bullshitin the people that it doesnt matter anymore ?? now listen to me im telling u that paul was bullshitin people trying to get people away from the right way
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R U implying Jesus & Paul R bullshitters? B/c Paul prophesied on the false prophet after”profit”, Muh’d? Or that Jesus spoke of His crucifixion & resurrection in many biblical verses like Matt 20:18-19 & refuted by Sura 4:157 thus calling Jesus a liar!
Who’re U trying to BS?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol paul and jesus are not on the same page buddy ,im telling u that paul was bullshitin, jesus was right ,where u going with this?? jesus never come to the earth to change the laws of moses ,which means that the laws of moses are correct,he said it himself, and islam follows the laws which means we are perfect in the eyes of moses and jesus (pbut) ,paul is the only one who changed the laws of moses
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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jesus told u that u will be accountable for your own sins ,he said u should circumsize , he forbid swine,he said god is one ,he said so many things that christians dont do anymore why???
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Jesus also said He was CRUCIFIED! But do YOU believe that?
Jesus reaffirmes the Trinity. Called God as ONE. The one God is PLURAL for “ELOHIM”
Unlike the OT we are accountable 4 our sins BUT its easier now b/c all we need do is BELIEVE Jesus died 4 us (Matt 20:28)
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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monotheistic christians on right track,but u who believe in trinity ,think hard , dont be mislead by false prophets ,fine u dont wanna believe muh’d ,than believe jesus ,believe him ,but paul?? no way he is true
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Mono Christians R easily persuaded to Trinities existence.
Muh’d NOT Paul is a false prophet.
We’ve the real Jesus, Islam has FAKE Jesus. We don’t call Jesus a LIAR as does Islam. U believe in ur quranic Jesus or the bible Jesus? Which one came 1st?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol it is the same jesus , except that u know less about him ,we know him in a way that not only people recognized him but god told us about him in the quran ,and it has more details about him ,we dont need historians proof ,the quran speaks for itself ,imagine this ,u people have historians to back u up,we dont but islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world ,now thats just awesome!!!!!!!!! lol
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol ,plagiarisms?? we believe in the god of abraham ,imagine this ok ,its like i say i believe that harvard is a good university ,u believe it too,but u tell me that its not the same one that i believe in ,wtf!! it is one thing ,how can u say that it is different without any knowledge what so ever... how arrogant!! lol do u believe in the same god that the jews believe in?? if yes than u should ask them why they pray at our mosque and not your church
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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paul prophecised muhammad(pbuh) ?? where was this ?
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Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Whilst all other prophets talked DIRECTLY w/God, Muh’d did not.
He received revelations(w/o witnesses mind U) from an angel we believe was Satan (2 Cor 11:14) He received a NEW GOSPEL, Islam(Al Tekayya)
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao ,where on earth does it sat that jesus is wrong!!! he didnt make that up,we are saying that u people are wrong... because u didnt kill him lol ,u the one who is making jesus a liar and saying that he claimed to be god ,when he never.. paul is the one who is making jesus teachings look like it is worth nothing oh and thanks for those verses i been lookin for them ,now i use it against u,why dont u follow the teachings of moses???????read what jesus said plz!!!!!!!!!
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
he said for had ye believed moses,ye would have believed me ,for he wrote of me.but if ye believe not in his writings,how shall ye believe my words... HELLO!!! moses believe him ,before u say that u believe jesus ,according to paul u dont have to follow the laws ,but according to jesus ,if u dont than u cant believe him ,lol and that is exactly what christians do,u believe in paul and forget jesus and moses (pbut)
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard haha!! we got the quran as its own witness ,imagine this lol ,it hasnt been changed for 1400 years!!!!god doesnt need any witnesses lmao!!! since when does god need to show himself that he is correct,we believe that the quran is from god ,and yes we are special :-) i love my religion
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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it is one thing ,how can u say that it is different without any knowledge what so ever... how arrogant!! lol do u believe in the same god that the jews believe in?? if yes than u should ask them why they pray at our mosque and not your church
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They are different.
Ours can turn into a man & urs cant! Abraham/Jacob saw God as a man!
Ours doesn’t recognize Ishmael, urs in fact; doesn’t either!
Who cares why they pray at ur Mosque? Serving kosher food?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@mafiadondogg
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plagiarisms?? we believe in the god of abraham ,imagine this ok ,its like i say i believe that harvard is a good university ,u believe it too,but u tell me that its not the same one that i believe in ,wtf!!
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There is Harvard Law University with all its other names & there is Harvard community college in some rural area.
Islams deceptions means they attend the smaller college pretend it’s the bigger one thereby fooling all who hear their message
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol omg u dont get the point ,anyway... i was trying to say that it is not what u think u believing in ,it is who u believe in ,if i say that i believe in the same god jesus did ,than it is him ,and islam is safe because we believe in the god of abraham ,and u say that too but u believe that jesus is god lol,did abraham ever say the father the son and holy spirit lmao no one did before paul ,no one!!!!!!
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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and non of u can prove it wrong, he matched him perfectly ,he said that muhammad (pbuh) will speak what he hears ,and that is how the quran was revealed lol
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We HAVE been proving YOU & Islam wrong all the time! You just ignore the postings!
When did Muh’d have time bwtn all that SEX? Why was it ONLY Muh’d who was boasted to have the libido to 30 men? Of all prophets, Muh’d is a nympho?
What is wrong with this picture?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard the sex stories is bullshit about muhammad(pbuh) , u christians seriously have sick minds lol ,well even if it were true ,he still is the true prophet and wow!! libido of 30men than he is one lucky prophet!!! im sure the wives loved him, and are u jealous that you have a low libido or something? sex is a blessing from god aint it?? and those are just lies about him having that but even if it were true makes no difference,u makin like sex is a sin,your bible doesnt say marry 1 lady
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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well jesus(pbuh) was very important ,and paul tried to make himself more important by giving jesus the title of god ,and drawing your attention to his teachings
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Paul was chosen to continue the teachings of Jesus. Jesus didn’t have much time b/c of His crucifixion, resurrection & the Holy Spirit all culminating during those last days.
Paul received all his inspirations thru the HS (Luke 12:12)
Paul was the selfless servant, the antithesis of what Muh’d was
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol paul was prophesied to be the false prophet ,jesus never ever said anything good that matched paul ,all the true prophets were prophesied ,and paul was never
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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if i say that i believe in the same god jesus did ,than it is him ,and islam is safe because we believe in the god of abraham
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WRONG!
How can you? I have asked many times. IF you believe that ur “allah” is the god of Abraham, then why didn’t “allah” protect Islam by [casting out] Ishmael?
This means Islam is false! Islam has NO foundation biblically! Means there are NO true prophets coming by way thru Muh’d! Means PAUL was right & Muh’d is a false prophet!
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol what do u mean?? ishmael is a true son of abraham ,he has the same blood u fool ,u people are so desperate lol
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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reason ishmael was no longer heir according to genesis was b/c he mocked isaac ,what a lame excuse
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“lame excuse”? Ishmael was 13 & threatening life of Isaac. Sarah knew Isaac would LOSE the power struggle to come if it wasn’t nipped at the bud. Besides, Ishmael was NOT her son. God agreed. Are YOU calling Gods agreement “lame” too?
Remember, ONLY Isaac was promised by God. Only Isaac was given his name by God & ONLY Isaac was called Abrahams ONLY son, by God.
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lmao his only son?? god would have said his second son ,for god is not the master of confusion according to the bible,it makes more sense that it is ishmael because the covenant was before isaac was born ,ONLY SON ,doesnt it make more sense to u?? god doesnt favor ,god is clear at what he says ,u people even twist the words of god for your own understanding
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
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god doesnt need any witnesses lmao!!!
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God said all must be established by two or three witnesses, ARE YOU GODS GOD?
Who are you to defy what God says?
Are you Satan disguising himself as “mafiadondogg”?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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we got the quran as its own witness ,imagine this lol ,it hasnt been changed for 1400 years!!!!
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A Book of NON-Fiction needs “footnotes” otherwise its MADE-UP!
God demands proof, as stated in the verses I gave you. Of course, uv proven Islam needs NO proof. That makes Islam more DANGEROUS to man & to itself.
Satan, father of liars, inspired the doctrine of “lies” to Muh’d while in the cave of Hira.
Another reason why Islam needs proof its from God ASAP!
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard uhm whats your point?? we also have historians what is the hadith for?? but what im saying is that we dont even need it ,we do have but we dont need proof,its a book that speaks for itself ,we are so blessd
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol well jesus(pbuh) was very important ,and paul tried to make himself more important by giving jesus the title of god ,and drawing your attention to his teachings ,its like i go to the usa and say that obama is the leader of all presidents in the world and i am the president now ,and change all the rules of obama ,but it doesnt matter because his title is much higher than being just a president hey,truth dont matter
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
christianity is supposd to be the closest religion to islam.. why?? because we both believe in one god ,and we both believe jesus is the true messiah.. the monotheistic christians are on the right track,but u who believe in the trinity ,think hard , dont be mislead by false prophets ,fine u dont wanna believe muhammad(pbuh) ,than believe jesus ,believe him ,but paul??there is no way that he is true
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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u forgetting that america too has a large population of muslims ,nah its not the muslims who show the crime rates
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The muslims in America have brought their “honor killings” with them.
Some have “beheaded” their wives & daughters. The ‘crime rates’ in your Islamic countries have been ‘smokescreened’ from the media.
Islamic countries are too afraid to get the REAL facts out there for negative publicity
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
@jefeisdguard lol ,they have beheaded their wives ,well u wanna see who beheads people more in this world is it muslims or christians ,u people can actually count the amount of muslims who do these things ,but christians do it every day ,murder ,rape,ect is very rare in our muslim society ,we fear god ,and according to islam if u kill innocent people u will go to hell,so how can islam be the cause of this? u people can still get away because u believe that sum1 died for your sins
mafiadondogg 1 year ago
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jesus too said he does miracles thru god ,so i dont know whats ur point,if jesus was god why’d he need permission from himself to do things?
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Cant comprehend how muslims cant think 4 themselves.
Have to ask: “Do muslims think Jesus is STUPID b/c He “talks to Himself?”
Could there be another explanation? Hmmm, maybe He was talking to someone else! Heyyy! Theres an idea & a thought! Lets call the other person “God the Father”!
ELOHIM! = plural for God!
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
Jesus says:
Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Jesus states He is God & to worship Him in Matt 4:7 & 10 & also Luke 4:8 & 12
THREE WITNESSES PROCLAIM THE WORDS OF CHRIST. ,
Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
Mark 13:31 Luke 21:33
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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@mafiadondogg
Sura 4:157 DEFINITELY calls Jesus a liar.
Islam henceforth calls Jesus a liar. Are you going to believe Jesus or not?
Are YOU & Islam defying the words of God spoken by Jesus in Matt 26:2? (John 7:16)
Does Jesus lie? (John 8:46)
Hundreds witnessed the crucifixion, how did Jesus get the nail holes?
Jesus said he will die for our sins (2 Cor 5:21) (1 Peter 3:18) Matthew 26:28
Jesus prophesied His crucifixion & U are calling Jesus a liar.
Ur denying & defying God. What for?
jefeisdguard 1 year ago
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