Life is about choices, and your mentality, depending on the type you have will determine what choice you make...poor people are nothing more then a smoke screen to mask the American Society selfish needs, we all know that in this country material wealth is everything, if you're rich you automatically create jobs, you're seen as bigger, and if you are educated you called a punk, especial if you are a person of color and people of color tend to be harder on other people of color more then whites
@TheUltimateBeing01 You are a fucking dumbass for thinking blacks are less intelligent! Based on what you wrote, its very obvious that you are not a bright person yourself for thinking that nonsense you are saying!
Dr. Watkins is right. Why would someone speak down about Black people through a medium that they are not aware of? What was his motivation? Plus, there is a way to tell the truth with a motivation twist and there is a way to further oppress people with a destructive twist. Bill Cosby is not encouraging Black people instead he is perpetuating the problem to the audience that is against us.
@Superseadragon no. we conquered it. they were too stupid and backwards to defend it. just like africans were to stupid to defend themselves against slavery. fuck em. only the strong survive, scumsucker.
@UltraProle21 OK now I see your motivation Scum Front. Keep a look out, because Amerikkka is officially declining. And the Hispanics are going to brown you. Adios!
@Superseadragon you need intelligence to take down the white man, something hispanics are sorely lacking. what are they gonna use, shovels? lmao one push of a button and the hispanic scum problem is solved.
The classic "you're 'race' is not genetically intelligent" attack.
Look, the notion of human races and distinct traits attributed to human races is wrong. There are no human races. We now know that there is too much genetic variation amongst people to be able to separate people into races. That fact has powerful ramifications, mainly that anything based on the notion of race is false. So just because someone is hispanic doesn't mean they are born less intelligent.
@ollie1685 lol nice to here from an OWS loser. "capitalist crap?" "wanna be one percenter?" haha i wouldn't be criticizing anyone else's intelligence there pal.
@ollie1685 yeah, and saying someone has no intelligence is real original. do me a favor, give me the general solution to this simple ordinary differential equation:
@TheUltimateBeing01 "in electrical engineering"? what does that even mean? you're a former electrical engineer? doubtful, based on your utter lack of understanding of the difference between a homogeneous and nonhomogeneous ode. lmao you're not going to get a characteristic equation from this ode, you'll get it from the associated homogeneous ode, y'' - 2y' = 0. you also completely missed the fact that you need a particular solution to y'' - 2y' + 1 = 0. "in electrical engineering"? sure.
Had to sit out for a while to work and earn money to continue attending.
And yes, I've studied Differential Equations. So I forgot some minor details. So what? I haven't looked at that shit in a while. Do YOU have perfect memory? Thought so!
@TheUltimateBeing01 3) no. for example y' = y (y' = Ay where A is the 1x1 matrix [1]) has the general solution y = ce^x, which is not a superposition of several solutions.
@TheUltimateBeing01 lmfao translation: you got owned. it's funny watching you squirm. anyway, 1) do you really want me to go through the cases of complex eigenvalues, real repeated eigenvalues, and real distinct eigenvalues that may be encountered in solving such a system? c'mon. 2) if A is a square matrix, if there is a scalar s and a non-zero vector v such that sv = Av, then v is said to be an eigenvector of A with corresponding eigenvalue s. cont'd
Mane blacks today just need to realize that they are proving racists whites of back then right about the things they said. But unfortunately, they don't want to hear the truth. They want to blame the white man for everything. Back then, prejudice whites and Klansmen gave beatdowns, death threats, and lynchings for blacks even thinking about going to school or bettering themselves. Now today they are dropping out, fighting in school, and killing themselves. I never see klansmen in the equation
It seems to me American Africans for the most part are uncle toms and are sell outs to the white & black racists (R). The R want the American Africans be uneducated, unable to get a good job. The R wants the American Africans to be drug heads and kill each other. It looks like the American Africans are willing to do the bidding of R. American Africans are proving that they are stupid animals, UNCLE TOMS it is too bad.
I recently read an article in Ebony magazine about black athletes in America. Within paragraphs, there were statements that people have a mark for black athletes. Again, its the WHOLE victim mentality! How can you continue to blame others for SO MANY YEARS!? Just another example of a race that is devolving!
As I read a few of the comments on here I’m sadden because people choose to focus on the messenger and ignore the message. I understand that some may think he’s hypocritical or his tone is too strong. However, I implore you to listen to the message that is being said and we can find a common ground and at least acknowledge that there are problems in many of our black communities that we can tackle ourselves and hopefully start if not continue to make a difference in those communities.
It is an American problem, but I bet when Black people and Mexican people go to the ATM they aren't worried some white guys are gonna stab them for 20 bux. I live in Cali, we got lots of Mexicans. You know who acts a fool everyday on the bus and the light rail I ride???? Niggaz. Nigga moments come from Niggas.
Boyce Watkins.... where else would Cosby put out his message? Newspapers? Do ghetto hood rats read newspapers?
BET???? You think BET wants to have Cosby on their show and trash the very image and product they are making?
Sounds like Watkins wants to put the blame on BET and its CEO for Black people problems. Come on now. Does watching some music video about skeet skeet and crack cocaine and 20 inch rims mean a person must embrace that? Come on now....
Bill Cosby is a man of integrity, cause His actions speak louder than words. In a world where men can't be trusted for anything Bill is one of the few who tell the truth. Salute Mr Cosby. peace
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GROW UP WITHOUT TWO PARENTS IN THE HOUSE HOLD AND THEY TURN OUT JUST FINE. AND JUST BECAUSE THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER WAS NOT AROUND DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL RUN OUT ON THEIR CHILDREN. SOME TIMES KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE BOTH PARENTS AROUND MAKE IT THEIR BUSINESS TO NOT LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN. THEIR ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT DO HAVE BOTH PARENTS & STILL END UP BEING MESSED UP. I AM A SINGLE MOTHER OF A 20 AND 19 YR OLD AND BOTH OF THEM ARE IN COLLEGE, NO BABIES AND NO FELONIES.
the great Coach Asbury Richmond of Southwest DeKalb High School (Decatur, Ga.)said many times throughout the halls, "Life is all about making the right decisions!". Never said better
Boyce, your daddy didn't always come off to you right because you are a sissy and all sissys are liberals. Not all liberals are sissys..but all sissys are liberals. Boyce, you have been making excuses ever since your daddy told you the "hard things"
Seems like Watkins is trying to forestall black progress. He pulls out all the stops in defending the very things blacks should change. It's always the same defense: the press has a racist agenda by exaggerating black pathologies, which are actually minimal and inconsequential; that "tough love" is an ineffective approach; that it's racist to publicly discuss black negative behaviors; and that we should be questioning whites instead since racism is really the root of all black problems.
No. I don't think we're a failure. I think we can be great as a people once we stop denigrating ourselves. No other race does this to the degree we do. We have to take responsibility for ourselves. Making someone else the scapegoat forwards us the opportunity (excuse) not to try harder. When we accept our blame in the matter, we can begin to fix our share of the problem and we become that much better.
@gombis666 "If white people need to address their role in the racial divide, wasn't Meet the Press the right venue? A bit hypocritical of Watkins. "
Did Cosby ever say anything that indicated what whites did or were doing to contribute to the racial divide? Or did Cosby simply talk to a white audience about everything he didnt like about other black people?
MLK disagreed with the meme of the Bill Cosby's of the world.
"It would be neither true nor honest to say that the Negro’s status is what it is because he is innately inferior or because he is basically lazy and listless or because he has not sought to lift himself up by his own bootstraps. To find the origins of the Negro problem we must turn to the white man’s problem…In short, white America must assume the guilt for the black man’s inferior status.”-MLK
@rashadkijani : " Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true." MLK
@gombis666 What is your post supposed to mean in this debate? Who are youy saying is full of hate Cosby,Boyce, or both? Who are you applying that verse to?
Yea, yea...MLK died when black people heavily oppressed. Times have changed. We go to the same schools with whites in many areas and still do poorly on average...it's to the point that others expect us to fail. Hell, as a group, sometimes we at times expect ourselves to fail (ever hear the highly ignorant phrase "you talk white"?) This is largely our fault. We can scapegoat whites only for our starting point [in certain cases]....not our finishing point.
@RBG02005 "Hell, as a group, sometimes we at times expect ourselves to fail (ever hear the highly ignorant phrase "you talk white"?"
It's hard to argue with people like you on that especially since you sound like a black who thinks the black race is a failure. Are you some black person who is failing in school even though you go to school with whites? Since the 60's the black race has gone from mainly poor to manly middle class.
I'm fed up with the Obama administration. He started a healthcare initiative that half the states have filed lawsuits to avoid, and hasn't put a dime into education in America. When he was running, I said to myself, "give me a break, all this HOPE and CHANGE crap is hurting my ears, Obama hasn't said what he's going to CHANGE!"
Now we haven't seen any improvement; the oil spill, Arizona's ant-immigrant laws, Iraq, Afghanistan. Things aren't CHANGING.
@MondoBeno The BP oil spill had nothing to do with Obama. All those oil whores in the Bush/Cheney administration passed all that offshore drlling de-regulation and idiot morons like Palin keep shouting "drill baby drill" to the dumb sheep that follow them.
Ehh...I think he was right on healthcare. I'm not 100% sure, but my econ friends seem to think so as well. As for his promises...he did what every politician does...he spoke idealistically. Different story on 01/20 when they get to Washington. He's trying to mitigate reality with his promises, which is a hell of lot more than we can say of most Republican presidents.
Instead of addressing what Cosby said it's all about WHERE he said it.
Who cares? So what if he said it in front of a white audience? What is that going to do? Make white people even MORE racist than they already are? We got enough shit to worry about (the shit Cosby was talking about) without worrying about what white people have to say about it.
All of you Blacks who don't support your own race and put the other races problems before your own are certified uncle toms. This isn't a title to be proud of.
(Cont'd) sick unto death until you told it." Like pregnancy, it can be denied for so long. After she starts showing, further denials constitutes one being delusional or a frank liar. Bill is trying to rescue those that are obviously not on the lifeboat. His opposition seems to ignore the urgency for their rescue. I'd rather someone yell, "FIRE!!!" if it leads to my safety, than whisper to my demise. Bill Cosby is doing very well. It takes a special love from him to reach back into the flames to
Cancer develops from healthy cells that for some reason go bad. Cancer in its infancy does not consume or represent the whole person. No one says about a cancer victim, "here comes cancer." Instead one might say, "here comes Jane, she has cancer." Cancer has stages which signify it's dissemination in the body. If one ignores it and allows it to spread, it will eventually destroy the host. Cosby is shouting, "it's spreading fast, get help quick." His critics say "Hush Bill, nobody knew he was si
black people...get your shit together-- that's what bill cosby is trying to tell black people. tough love is better than no love...which is what kids and the youth get from unintelligent/beat-down/ignorant black people having babies
Bill Cosby speaks the truth. A lot of hit dogs hollered when he addressed the class of black that he did. We have too many opportnities now days to where we can get out of the hood. Most of us are not born into a middle class home, yet we were able to do what we needed to do go get out of the hood, get our education and become tax paying cititzens. The problem WE have in our community is that we praise and celebrate the "hood life" and we've become so content with it rater than try to leave it.
@terrinyc29 Yeah he does. he's one of the many sad black scholars who are so wraped up in race that they can't see outside of their little racist corner.
Cmon black people....we know the solutions....we just won't carry them out....stay in school....go to college and get an education....and get a good job before you CONSIDER bringing a child into the world....why do we need someone to tell us to do these things...i just don't get it
@nike2950YEA BUTS HES GENERALIZING LIKE CRAZY ITS EMBARASSING WHEN I KNOW MANY BLACKS WHO DONT FIT IN THAT CATEGORIES!!! HES SHITTING ON ME MY FAMILY AND OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR I KNOW WHO ARE DOING GOOD. THATS WHY I SAY YOU HAVE TO LIVE FOR YOURSELF!1 THE BEST WAY FOR BLACKS TO GET BETTER IS IGNORE THIS BS AND DO GOOD FOR THEMSELVES AND FAMILY ! BY THE WAY IM A VETERAN 26 AND I HAVE A KID OUT OF WED LOCK BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO GET MARRIED AND AGNOSTIC
@martystreets - No, I don't think it will work or lead to success if everyone (people like yourself) just go off & start living a selfish or self-centered life. People need to learn & understand to have both empathy & compassion. Dr. King believed in the life of a movement; the life of a people who cared for each other & who helped to advanced each other. We can't forget the sacrifices & greatness of all the people who died for us- King said WE as a PEOPLE will get to the Promise Land.
@shieldsff honestly does it matter? U have to live for yourself. I wasn't saying that you should be self centered or selfish. you have to just live and better yourself as a individual not as a race. we are individuals!! Thats where i believe this argument is flawed. In America there is always a need to categorize and stereotype . i guess its easier! Im doing good just focusing on the my family,gym, and family. Im not worry about other people because A PERSON NOT A COLOR!
@fmcneillii yes, your response to martystreets is correct. Also, because someone participants in the military is no basis for assuming that their views are correct or accurate. In fact, it's a reasonable basis for questioning their judgments & opinions on any number of political issues
@martystreets - I see what you're sayin' man, but in reality, you WERE NOT fighting for me, your community, your city, etc... You were fighting for other people's greed & domination.
@shieldsff either way you contradicted yourself.. even if you believe it was for greed & domination im not just doing it for myself hence i am not selfish or self centered. And as much as you might think servicemen dont fight for u lets see if our countries defenses do away for day !! we would be done in hours just food for thought. and u know that so why would u say that i dont belive some cicilians understand how real the world outside united states.
Also the truth about problems in the black community are tha the are like all problems and they "evolve" like a animal. I have had the luxury to travel the world and I noticed that many of our problems are relative to those in poverty not just blacks.
But one problem I notice in the black community is the fire we feed to the race issue alone, this is why I agree with Juan Williams and realisticallly I do not believe its possible not to teach our youth about the issues of racism however it is equally harmful because we keep the fire lit. ...I think because of Bill Cosby past issue with the death of his son he speaks out of emotion when he is so critical of black people and that is natural because human beings are driven by the"human emotion"
Dr. Boyce your existence and knowledge can never be over-looked you are imeasurable ..I agree given the media that watches OX, Larry King, Cosby should have been more critical wit his choice of words because of he listening audience..However is not what Cosby saying the truth? I am a strong believer that it is better to be an individual who is not negatively influenced by external forces. Rather than the individual who looks to blame those external forces that negatively influence black youth.
@Mrallmusic21 ?? His audience was an NAACP funtcion. He speaks TO black people. Why should he be critical? That is foolish. This cowards approach will get you nowhere. be a man (or woman, but be strong). Cosby is advocating SELF imporvment. the NAACP got pissed at him for that! They should have had self respecting blacks leaving the NAACP in droves, or at least overturning the leadership.
I agree with most of what Bill Cosby said, but if you are going to speak about the ills of the Black community, go to it and say it and state the causes and give solutions. However, I say this without reading his book, but in all the lectures I saw of him, I did not hear causes or solutions, just stating the problems.
Most of the people that agree with Mr Cosby are not bourgeois, as most like Mr Cosby, were not born to affluent parents. Mr Cosby's mother was a maid his father was in the US Navy.
Most of us were born in that same Ghetto you speak of,but some how found a way to get the hell out, make a better life for themselves and their children.
We took responsibility for ourselves and made sure our children attended school.
Negroes like Boyce Watkins want blacks to feel disenfranchised and angry because he has built an entire industry around himself to keep 'fighting the good fight".
I think it is so funny that some ghetto Negroes still do not see thru a phony like Boyce Watkins and try and claim the most desperate thing as racism.
what about the 1000s of vids on youtube of large roving packs of black thugs committing crimes of extreme violence upon innocent people & then cheering & celebrating with great pride? please address this segment of black culture.
@gretschsounds thousands of videos? Link me to five. If you can't find five, put one here. You seriously need to see a psychiatrist for your delusions, Racism should be categorized as a mental disorder, it's nothing but paranoid delusions. THOUSANDS? Who talks like this? Get help please.
...and yes, I know several very intelligent blacks, and several very athletic whites, so spare me the simplistic responses. I'm talking about averages, and if you're unable to comprehend that, then it really doesn't matter if you're a racist or not, since your opinion is worth very little.
if you subscribe to the presented-as-indisputable-fact that blacks have the same average IQ as whites or asians, then you're a racist. Obviously, blacks are better athletes, and have several other significant and undeniable physiological differences from other races. So believing the conventional wisdom, despite scientific research and common sense to the contrary, clearly makes you a racist, since you believe that blacks are equal intellectually but superior physically...therefore superior...
its not about acting white or acting black. It may be cool to be a gangsta for a while, while you are young (if you dont get shot first or end up end jail) but you know what, it's cooler to get an education and become what you want to be and to support a family. It doesn't matter if you're black or white. DO THE RIGHT THING ALWAYS. That is the problem with black and white people, instead of doing the right thing, we say: The other group is so wrong. If everyone fixes themselves, we all win.
@joshjanelletaz i agree with you totally on this! thumbs up. its not a race issue but I think some african americans are so effected by what racism did/ is doing to others ( i.e. not just blacks..hello? when is the last time you saw a native americans??) that they become racist themselves and just further the problem.
Yea Bro, black people r a gift 2 humanity being that we r the orig. people & where all other races stem from, on the continent of Africa! The other races realize our greatness & is the reason for demonizing the black race! Me personally am so very proud of my black people even us poor blacks, we r such a beautiful people, I love our bodies, our swagger & I espcially love the fact that we've come up from the HELLS OF SLAVERY, to be able to compete with the white folks!That's saying something!WORD
Boyce Watkins said EVERYTHING on point. the majority of black ppl on here who agree wit bill cosby are bourgeois blacks anyway they have a different perspective on black issues than blacks from the gutta. but i'd agree with Boyce Watkins 110% MORE than bill cosby.
@page371069 gul shutup. if we didnt voice our perspectives on our lives NOBODY would know OR care so no you stop pullin' dat white folks ass "race card(reverse racism) bullshit
@RottenPeachState706....oh please....you are the type of negro that would blame white people for everything.....this is all about black folks being dumb and reckless.
@page371069 #1 you not black #2 notice how you say black ppl like all of us do reckless shit. but look at you white people you murder HUNDREDS of thousands of ppl during a decade who's worse peter
@RottenPeachState706 ......Just face it.....there are some blacks, like myself, who are tired of hearing black people complain and blame white people. It's not whitey's fault. Get a clue!
@page371069 smh overlooking issues will NOT get them dealt wit' get over your appeasement chromosome. you kiss ass to them white folks for EVERYTHING in the world wear your hair JUST like them, lighten your skin tryin' to be like them, even adopt their speech patterns in order to talk like them you OREO'S make me sick but like i said i doubt you even black in da first place so im not gonna get drawn into this here
@RottenPeachState706 ......it is a class issue....poor blacks are the ones holding back the our community. i can't stand them and their ghetto behavior.
@page371069 "the problem is we started thinking like the colonists" that quote is oh so true tell me how poor blacks from the gutta is holdin' back MY community you not black so you dont count. me personally i have no problem wit' black ppl moving up the economic ladder but this capitalistic system has got oreo's demonizing their own to distance themselves in the eyes of YOUR masters. you oreo's are da ones truly hindering progress what have yall contributed to black upliftment?
we gave the blacks oppurtunities to be heard through HIP HOP what have borgeois blacks done? except distance themselves from blacks from da gutta but whenever they're in trouble rely on the "i was discriminated against to b/c of my skin color crutch" to be able to identify with a struggle you silver spoon spoiled brats ALWAYS eat off our plates. what have bourgeois blacks given america fuck america what have they given the WORLD like poor blacks have given da world HIP HOP?
@RottenPeachState706 Did you ever think that many middle class african americans started out poor? Many are not born with a silver spoon but they make the decision to get an education, and by the permission of God they are able to do better. Shouldn't you be happy to see African american do better?? I am from the ghetto ( what is a gutta??) but this is everything Bill Cosby spoke aganist. You should be able to spell better than that. people died, were shot and jailed for you to get an education.
@RottenPeachState706 Did you ever think that many middle class african americans started out poor? Many are not born with a silver spoon but they make the decision to get an education, and by the permission of God they are able to do better. Shouldn't you be happy to see African American do better?? I am from the ghetto ( what is a gutta??) but this is everything Bill Cosby spoke against. You should be able to spell better than that. people died, were shot and jailed for you to get an education.
@RottenPeachState706 Hip Hop isn't a gift to anyone and those middle class african americans are the same people who provide you with the ability to make those records otherwise those rap artisits would be on corners singing for quarters or better yet in jail where most of them belong anyway!
@Ummiyusuf no they actually didnt atually white ppl saw money in Hip Hop so they jumped down on it to maximize THEIR pocket linen bourgeois blacks hate Hip Hop to this day b/c they cant identify with it and are mad that niggas from the GUTTA that come from circumstances they could never imagine and make more $ than them
@RottenPeachState706 Big businesses (i.e. not only white ppl) will go after whatever makes money. It is their business. This is well known in any society. But just don't blame the companies, what about those that take this bait? And use the excuse, "it's what the record company wanted!" as if they cannot make decisions for themselves. So their excuse really is, " I just want money and will say whatever they want me on this record to get it." Prostitution at it's "finest" and they play victim.
@Ummiyusuf 2nd are you even BLACK? you keep sayin' "african american" most black ppl i've come across dont even use the term "aa" and im BLACK my damn self and just goes to show your processed Oreo thinkin' that cause the wide chasm between economics now sayin' Hip Hop artists deserve to be in jail without givin' ANY plausible reasons for such. smh i despise you Oreo's
@RottenPeachState706 Firstly, I prefer the term "African American" to " blacks" because the majority of US ( including myself) aren't "black" we are brown, so the term "African American" appeals to me more than "black" Its a personal preference.
@Ummiyusuf so what do you know about AFRICA since you call yourself an "AFRICAN-american"? you types are the conformists of our community and the ones who sell other blacks out and blame them for the "stereotypes" that are labeled upon them by the ones who created the stereotypes to describe them anyways your rhetoric is basically that of a white boy no difference
and dont call me an "African-american" im not an african american im BLACK
that is why Africans from the Continent call you "African-americans" white or "american" b/c you know NOTHING of the culture's that exist there but you steadily callin' yourself an "african-american" for what
@Ummiyusuf and where does "african-american" come into the picture describing to be "brown"? so thats why you call yourself "african-american" b/c you yourself are "brown" i DONT see the correlation in that AT ALL
@page371069 you know what sdfu bitch im getting tired of your ass keep dissing black people yeah you try to be white bitch but stop trying to you will never be white you stupid cunt
@page371069 its not poor blacks. it is uneducated blacks..no ignorant blacks. An uneducated black person with self respect can raise their children to be respectful and contribute to society. A black person with a college degree could allow their son to wear his pants with his behind showing and listen to garbage and be a loser. The person with the degree, in this case, is ignorant even more ignorant than the uneducated person. but im tired of ignorant blacks also ..ignorant ppl period.
@RottenPeachState706 Im actually working as a teacher and finising a paper for college on this issue, which is the reason I am even looking at this video. So to answer you I have at least begun to contribute to my society. Don't assume that because i am on youtube I'm some lonely lazy person. That would be a mistake to use such prejudice. many people use youtube from wealthy to dirt poor.
@Ummiyusuf so you contribute to the plights of blacks by writing a paper for college on an issue that you have no basic concept of? what REAL contribution have you done for "african-americans" besides write thesis's on the issue
Bill Cosby became a successful, respected American when he grew up in a time in the US when there was REAL racism.
Today's negroes are the loudest cry babies whining at the mere possibility of racism - when ironically they are the most racist monkeys. I have seen teen blacks make fun of asians on trains and buses for the way they talk with an accent.
Can you imagine ikf a white kid made fun of blacks at their ebonics?
and "monkeys"? if you say so but only on the computer snowflake
and if we didnt point out racism ppl would think everythang was all good and its NOT miss me with your supposed response to my comment nothin' in your comment is relevant at all snowbunny
@yserrant gyeah back like "70" YEARS ago! i dont wanna hear dat no more he need to take his ol' sellout ass and sit his ass down somewhere
his opinon holds NO weight in da black community so i could actually care less he's been separated from the black community for too long to try to establish a threshold for communication now fuck cosby now you can tell him that
@RottenPeachState706 Yeah all Bill did was create shows with positive images like The Cosby Show, A Different World, films with Sidney Poitier, short documentary series in the 60s about the miseducation of black children, & give money to various Black education foundations. Boyce Watkins does what?
If I was Bill & saw all my work turn to shit & fools get mad when I say man up and act right, I'd say peace too. Fuck YOU, Watkins, & all you other whiny "Why'd you leave the hood?" ass niggas.
@yserrant #1 the cosby show was NEVER big where im from
#2 all "his" work?? gtfoh he was a fuckin' "comedian" who really never had any following in the black community even back then i ask all da old heads from around the way they say he was an uncle tom sambo dancin' for them white ppl back then and he LEFT the hood i thought it was about REbuilding the community when you have $ not leaving and then lecturing from a distance believing he will have ANY standing here when he LEFT like all
other blacks who left he was a poor black man back in the "40's" thats "70" years ago he has BEEN out of touch thats why nobody listens to him or pays him any mind he's the same man that told blacks to stop namin' our children "afro-centric" names and start naming our kids "bill, mandy, becky" and we suppose to ride with HIM? um NAW bruh dats NOT how it G-O
@RottenPeachState706 Yeah! Let's keep naming our kids with the "Afro" centric names; you know: names like: Passion or Luqucia. Names that sound like they were made up by a 12 year-old.
Then make sure that we don't speak "Euro" centric language correctly or conform to white standards. That way we can ensure that we will always start with a handicap when we go on job interviews (you know, where the money is!!)
It's your way of thinking that keeps us down! You are a damn fool!!
@wenlinkel so basically from what i deduce from your comment is: forget our history and just follow suit like you sellouts and transform into a highly DILUTED race with foreign traditions, and cultures and all of the above to suit them crackas.... BOY STOP get yo sell-out ass on somewhere OREO im da "fool" b/c i dont condone blacks naming themselves "euro-centric" names and assumin' their identities?? ummmmm SO YOU SAY oreo
@RottenPeachState706 The way I look at it is basically like this: If I were to somehow magically appear another planet with a group of aliens that had a different culture than we have here on earth--I wouldn't be so bullheaded as to insist that "I am an earthling--respect my earth culture!" If it meant that everyday I lived a less than satisfying live and had to struggle to get through every day; I would "learn their ways" and use it to my advantage. You need to free your mind! N' I like oreo's!
@wenlinkel horrible analogy i shouldnt even have to respond to that. but i will.. theres ALOT of key components you failed to put into that analogy. should i go on? or should i embarrass you on this comment page? but before i embarrass you on here i'll let you revise that dumb fuck ass analogy 'fore i roast you and i BET you do like Oreo's OREO
@RottenPeachState706 I think that it is perfect analogy. If I insisted that they conform to my "Earth" heritage they would just laugh and think that I'm a dumb-ass. I could rant-n-rave all I wanted to and I would just look like a damn fool (sound famililar?). If I took your postition I would have to remain angry all the time and I still doubt that I could convince anyone that my arguments were valid. Bottom line: It all comes down to money; how do I support me and mine and still take a stand?
@yserrant #3 im soooo glad yall have NO weight in our community with this backwards ass logic to where you say we should conform to white euro-centric standards b/c when you back bill cosby THATS what you are supporting our ancestors would never like whats goin' on with us now as a ppl and how we kill ourselves but im pretty sure they would be DISGUSTED about us sellin' out and CONFORMING just so you Oreo's can feel better around white ppl fuck them AND yall point blank period
Next thing you gonna tell me is Muhammad Ali was just a boxer. Why don't you go to Wikipedia and search Bill Cosby, and READ some facts. I'm from East Oakland with a Black Panther mother & I got a M.A. Euro my ass.
@yserrant look at who really had an effective IMPACT it wasnt really bill cosby the only thing i WILL give him credit for was to aspire for more with that cosby show cuz i didnt know black folks could live like that and dont EVER compare cosby to Muhammad Ali EVER
and its funny you mention Panthers did you know cosby is and was against the Panthers? my WHOLE family is/was apart of the Indianapolis Chapter of the Black Panthers
look on my channel and look up who Gregory Resnover & Tommie Smith were.
im from Down South in GA Columbus GA 2nd largest city in GA and you statin' that you from east oakland means what....
and you have a "m.a." AND that makes you more intelligent than someone who doesnt? um naw so i dont know why you would bring that up i congratulate all black ppl when they accomplish shit like dat so congrats bruh but you on some other shit
and you say "niggas love to hate"? HOW THE FUCK AM I "HATIN"???
you ppl nowadays use the word "hate" where it does NOT apply
im "hating" on bill cosby?? when has it been laeled "hatin" when you state the OBVIOUS TRUTH?? he a "black" man who says he doesnt like blacks to name their kids Afro-Centric names and wants ppl to start namin' their kids Euro/Anglo-saxon names and i criticize his KNOWN sellout ass for it and "I'M" "hatin"???? gtfoh
@yserrant You're right. All Bill did was create shows with positive images like The Cosby Show, A Different World, a films with Sidney Poitier, short documentary series in the 60s about the miseducation of black children, & give money to various Black education foundations. Boyce Watkins does what?
If I was Bill as saw all my work turn to shit & fools get mad when I say man up and act right, I'd say peace too.
Fuck YOU, Watkins, & all you other whiny "Why'd you leave the hood?" ass niggas.
@RottenPeachState706 "bourgeois blacks?" What about "educated" blacks/ African Americans. You say it as if these "educated blacks" have a distorted, improper point of view on black issues. When is reality, these "educated blacks" are pointing out the problems and are trying help resolve them.
@TheYoungTurds1 #1if you're not black dont speak on anythang about us
#2 i dont believe they are tryin' to "resolve" anythang they are tryin' to appease to you white folks and make you feel good about the black circumstance
and again if you're NOT black dont comment on OUR shit this has got to do wit' US not you white folks we dont need your interference i think yall've done enough "interference" throughout the years dont ya think
very informed discussion on both sides need more forums like this one. keep up the good work.
MrSteven2945 2 weeks ago
Life is about choices, and your mentality, depending on the type you have will determine what choice you make...poor people are nothing more then a smoke screen to mask the American Society selfish needs, we all know that in this country material wealth is everything, if you're rich you automatically create jobs, you're seen as bigger, and if you are educated you called a punk, especial if you are a person of color and people of color tend to be harder on other people of color more then whites
isleofmehr 4 weeks ago
And yes I'm black
GASP1!!!!111!!!!
"But I thought black folks were genetically less intelligent than other racial groups. How does this negro know about Differential Equations."
*Says the racist reading the last few post of mine.*
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
@TheUltimateBeing01 You are a fucking dumbass for thinking blacks are less intelligent! Based on what you wrote, its very obvious that you are not a bright person yourself for thinking that nonsense you are saying!
jackdaman80 2 weeks ago
@jackdaman80
I'm am black you moron.
I was defending myself againt those pseudoscientific claims like black people are genetically less intelligent.
TheUltimateBeing01 2 weeks ago
SIGH
Reading YouTube comments gives me a friggin headache.
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
Dr. Watkins is right. Why would someone speak down about Black people through a medium that they are not aware of? What was his motivation? Plus, there is a way to tell the truth with a motivation twist and there is a way to further oppress people with a destructive twist. Bill Cosby is not encouraging Black people instead he is perpetuating the problem to the audience that is against us.
09kwhittington 1 month ago
@09kwhittington
????????.....are you smoking somthing?
wilsalvn 1 month ago
african american? hell no. ur either african or american...make a choice, bitch.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 African. Case closed punk
Superseadragon 2 months ago
@Superseadragon good. so go back to africa and see how good your life is there. lmao.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 So go back where you came from. Let the Natives repopulate their Home.
Superseadragon 2 months ago
@Superseadragon no. we conquered it. they were too stupid and backwards to defend it. just like africans were to stupid to defend themselves against slavery. fuck em. only the strong survive, scumsucker.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 OK now I see your motivation Scum Front. Keep a look out, because Amerikkka is officially declining. And the Hispanics are going to brown you. Adios!
Superseadragon 2 months ago
@Superseadragon you need intelligence to take down the white man, something hispanics are sorely lacking. what are they gonna use, shovels? lmao one push of a button and the hispanic scum problem is solved.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 Feel free to push the button.
Superseadragon 2 months ago
@UltraProle21
Ah!
The classic "you're 'race' is not genetically intelligent" attack.
Look, the notion of human races and distinct traits attributed to human races is wrong. There are no human races. We now know that there is too much genetic variation amongst people to be able to separate people into races. That fact has powerful ramifications, mainly that anything based on the notion of race is false. So just because someone is hispanic doesn't mean they are born less intelligent.
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 Capitalist crap from a wanna be one percenter. "Scumsucker"? Wow, an intellectual.
ollie1685 1 month ago
@ollie1685 lol nice to here from an OWS loser. "capitalist crap?" "wanna be one percenter?" haha i wouldn't be criticizing anyone else's intelligence there pal.
UltraProle21 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 You obviously have no intelligence (pal? How original)
ollie1685 1 month ago
@ollie1685 yeah, and saying someone has no intelligence is real original. do me a favor, give me the general solution to this simple ordinary differential equation:
y'' - 2y' + 1 = 0 and show your work...
UltraProle21 1 month ago
@UltraProle21
Are you serious?
What does differential equations have to do with this video?
But, since I was in Electrical Engineering, I do know a little something about solving ODEs.
Substitute the general form of the solution in the ODE and get the characteristic equation.
Now you just use Algebra to get the constants of integration.
Then you have the general solution.
Seriously, what the fuck is that supposed to prove?
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
@TheUltimateBeing01 "in electrical engineering"? what does that even mean? you're a former electrical engineer? doubtful, based on your utter lack of understanding of the difference between a homogeneous and nonhomogeneous ode. lmao you're not going to get a characteristic equation from this ode, you'll get it from the associated homogeneous ode, y'' - 2y' = 0. you also completely missed the fact that you need a particular solution to y'' - 2y' + 1 = 0. "in electrical engineering"? sure.
UltraProle21 1 month ago
@UltraProle21
Yeah, I went to college for it for three years.
Had to sit out for a while to work and earn money to continue attending.
And yes, I've studied Differential Equations. So I forgot some minor details. So what? I haven't looked at that shit in a while. Do YOU have perfect memory? Thought so!
Want to make an ass out of yourself anymore?
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
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UltraProle21 1 month ago
@UltraProle21
I'm curious how far you got in your studies.
Tell me, how do you solve a linear system of homogeneous differential equations.
Do you know what an eigenvector or eigenvalue is?
Is it true that in general, the solution to said system is the superposition of several solutions?
HMMM?????
Since you want to play that game, we can play that game.
:D
TheUltimateBeing01 1 month ago
@TheUltimateBeing01 3) no. for example y' = y (y' = Ay where A is the 1x1 matrix [1]) has the general solution y = ce^x, which is not a superposition of several solutions.
UltraProle21 1 month ago
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@TheUltimateBeing01 lmfao translation: you got owned. it's funny watching you squirm. anyway, 1) do you really want me to go through the cases of complex eigenvalues, real repeated eigenvalues, and real distinct eigenvalues that may be encountered in solving such a system? c'mon. 2) if A is a square matrix, if there is a scalar s and a non-zero vector v such that sv = Av, then v is said to be an eigenvector of A with corresponding eigenvalue s. cont'd
UltraProle21 1 month ago
What is wrong with being a Conservative? Bill Cosby is generally correct with his views and opinions.
stephenabm 2 months ago
Mane blacks today just need to realize that they are proving racists whites of back then right about the things they said. But unfortunately, they don't want to hear the truth. They want to blame the white man for everything. Back then, prejudice whites and Klansmen gave beatdowns, death threats, and lynchings for blacks even thinking about going to school or bettering themselves. Now today they are dropping out, fighting in school, and killing themselves. I never see klansmen in the equation
thepac12andbig10suck 3 months ago
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It seems to me American Africans for the most part are uncle toms and are sell outs to the white & black racists (R). The R want the American Africans be uneducated, unable to get a good job. The R wants the American Africans to be drug heads and kill each other. It looks like the American Africans are willing to do the bidding of R. American Africans are proving that they are stupid animals, UNCLE TOMS it is too bad.
samten10a 3 months ago
I recently read an article in Ebony magazine about black athletes in America. Within paragraphs, there were statements that people have a mark for black athletes. Again, its the WHOLE victim mentality! How can you continue to blame others for SO MANY YEARS!? Just another example of a race that is devolving!
mrdave777 3 months ago
Blacks will never learn, and will never heal or achieve, because they refuse to accept the truths about themselves.
Kozzy06 3 months ago
Boyce lost his tenure hahaha
NeoRwing 3 months ago
Who the hell is this stupid liberal faggot. Where did he get his Doctorate? WalMart?
bluemontanaskies 4 months ago
As I read a few of the comments on here I’m sadden because people choose to focus on the messenger and ignore the message. I understand that some may think he’s hypocritical or his tone is too strong. However, I implore you to listen to the message that is being said and we can find a common ground and at least acknowledge that there are problems in many of our black communities that we can tackle ourselves and hopefully start if not continue to make a difference in those communities.
littleblackvillage 4 months ago
It is an American problem, but I bet when Black people and Mexican people go to the ATM they aren't worried some white guys are gonna stab them for 20 bux. I live in Cali, we got lots of Mexicans. You know who acts a fool everyday on the bus and the light rail I ride???? Niggaz. Nigga moments come from Niggas.
vslsubspam 4 months ago
Boyce Watkins.... where else would Cosby put out his message? Newspapers? Do ghetto hood rats read newspapers?
BET???? You think BET wants to have Cosby on their show and trash the very image and product they are making?
Sounds like Watkins wants to put the blame on BET and its CEO for Black people problems. Come on now. Does watching some music video about skeet skeet and crack cocaine and 20 inch rims mean a person must embrace that? Come on now....
vslsubspam 4 months ago
I love Cosby, and it does not matter how and where he said it, because no body can hurt black people more than they have hurt them selves.
I think Boyce, a bit of a drama queen and not highlighting the bigger problem in here
LEilllLEi 4 months ago
Bill Cosby is a man of integrity, cause His actions speak louder than words. In a world where men can't be trusted for anything Bill is one of the few who tell the truth. Salute Mr Cosby. peace
SwaggerLikeUz 5 months ago
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GROW UP WITHOUT TWO PARENTS IN THE HOUSE HOLD AND THEY TURN OUT JUST FINE. AND JUST BECAUSE THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER WAS NOT AROUND DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL RUN OUT ON THEIR CHILDREN. SOME TIMES KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE BOTH PARENTS AROUND MAKE IT THEIR BUSINESS TO NOT LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN. THEIR ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT DO HAVE BOTH PARENTS & STILL END UP BEING MESSED UP. I AM A SINGLE MOTHER OF A 20 AND 19 YR OLD AND BOTH OF THEM ARE IN COLLEGE, NO BABIES AND NO FELONIES.
mizundrstod 5 months ago
the great Coach Asbury Richmond of Southwest DeKalb High School (Decatur, Ga.)said many times throughout the halls, "Life is all about making the right decisions!". Never said better
bartdogggy 6 months ago
Boyce, your daddy didn't always come off to you right because you are a sissy and all sissys are liberals. Not all liberals are sissys..but all sissys are liberals. Boyce, you have been making excuses ever since your daddy told you the "hard things"
vabado4u 6 months ago
Seems like Watkins is trying to forestall black progress. He pulls out all the stops in defending the very things blacks should change. It's always the same defense: the press has a racist agenda by exaggerating black pathologies, which are actually minimal and inconsequential; that "tough love" is an ineffective approach; that it's racist to publicly discuss black negative behaviors; and that we should be questioning whites instead since racism is really the root of all black problems.
takfam07 6 months ago
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rashadkijani 4 months ago
No. I don't think we're a failure. I think we can be great as a people once we stop denigrating ourselves. No other race does this to the degree we do. We have to take responsibility for ourselves. Making someone else the scapegoat forwards us the opportunity (excuse) not to try harder. When we accept our blame in the matter, we can begin to fix our share of the problem and we become that much better.
RBG02005 6 months ago
@RBG02005
That stigma of a failure will exist until that denigration ends and then some. If I am failing, I am a failure until I fix things.
vslsubspam 4 months ago
If white people need to address their role in the racial divide, wasn't Meet the Press the right venue? A bit hypocritical of Watkins.
gombis666 6 months ago
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@gombis666 "If white people need to address their role in the racial divide, wasn't Meet the Press the right venue? A bit hypocritical of Watkins. "
Did Cosby ever say anything that indicated what whites did or were doing to contribute to the racial divide? Or did Cosby simply talk to a white audience about everything he didnt like about other black people?
rashadkijani 6 months ago
MLK disagreed with the meme of the Bill Cosby's of the world.
"It would be neither true nor honest to say that the Negro’s status is what it is because he is innately inferior or because he is basically lazy and listless or because he has not sought to lift himself up by his own bootstraps. To find the origins of the Negro problem we must turn to the white man’s problem…In short, white America must assume the guilt for the black man’s inferior status.”-MLK
rashadkijani 6 months ago
@rashadkijani : " Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true." MLK
gombis666 6 months ago
@gombis666 What is your post supposed to mean in this debate? Who are youy saying is full of hate Cosby,Boyce, or both? Who are you applying that verse to?
rashadkijani 6 months ago
@rashadkijani
Yea, yea...MLK died when black people heavily oppressed. Times have changed. We go to the same schools with whites in many areas and still do poorly on average...it's to the point that others expect us to fail. Hell, as a group, sometimes we at times expect ourselves to fail (ever hear the highly ignorant phrase "you talk white"?) This is largely our fault. We can scapegoat whites only for our starting point [in certain cases]....not our finishing point.
RBG02005 6 months ago
@RBG02005 "Hell, as a group, sometimes we at times expect ourselves to fail (ever hear the highly ignorant phrase "you talk white"?"
It's hard to argue with people like you on that especially since you sound like a black who thinks the black race is a failure. Are you some black person who is failing in school even though you go to school with whites? Since the 60's the black race has gone from mainly poor to manly middle class.
rashadkijani 6 months ago
Boyce Watkins is one of the most politically correct people on the planet. If Bill Cosby offended you then you need to be offended.
BiggerFatterBlog 7 months ago
I'm fed up with the Obama administration. He started a healthcare initiative that half the states have filed lawsuits to avoid, and hasn't put a dime into education in America. When he was running, I said to myself, "give me a break, all this HOPE and CHANGE crap is hurting my ears, Obama hasn't said what he's going to CHANGE!"
Now we haven't seen any improvement; the oil spill, Arizona's ant-immigrant laws, Iraq, Afghanistan. Things aren't CHANGING.
MondoBeno 7 months ago
@MondoBeno The BP oil spill had nothing to do with Obama. All those oil whores in the Bush/Cheney administration passed all that offshore drlling de-regulation and idiot morons like Palin keep shouting "drill baby drill" to the dumb sheep that follow them.
loungelizard5000 7 months ago
@MondoBeno
Ehh...I think he was right on healthcare. I'm not 100% sure, but my econ friends seem to think so as well. As for his promises...he did what every politician does...he spoke idealistically. Different story on 01/20 when they get to Washington. He's trying to mitigate reality with his promises, which is a hell of lot more than we can say of most Republican presidents.
RBG02005 6 months ago
"if you were to label his perspective . . . " you'd label this Watkins guy as an apologist. mental midget.
andrehendrik 7 months ago
Instead of addressing what Cosby said it's all about WHERE he said it.
Who cares? So what if he said it in front of a white audience? What is that going to do? Make white people even MORE racist than they already are? We got enough shit to worry about (the shit Cosby was talking about) without worrying about what white people have to say about it.
n0s1r 8 months ago
All of you Blacks who don't support your own race and put the other races problems before your own are certified uncle toms. This isn't a title to be proud of.
Satansoppressed 9 months ago
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MIDWEST507REPIN 9 months ago
(Cont'd) to save others.
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
(Cont'd) save others.
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
(Cont'd) sick unto death until you told it." Like pregnancy, it can be denied for so long. After she starts showing, further denials constitutes one being delusional or a frank liar. Bill is trying to rescue those that are obviously not on the lifeboat. His opposition seems to ignore the urgency for their rescue. I'd rather someone yell, "FIRE!!!" if it leads to my safety, than whisper to my demise. Bill Cosby is doing very well. It takes a special love from him to reach back into the flames to
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
Cancer develops from healthy cells that for some reason go bad. Cancer in its infancy does not consume or represent the whole person. No one says about a cancer victim, "here comes cancer." Instead one might say, "here comes Jane, she has cancer." Cancer has stages which signify it's dissemination in the body. If one ignores it and allows it to spread, it will eventually destroy the host. Cosby is shouting, "it's spreading fast, get help quick." His critics say "Hush Bill, nobody knew he was si
Sensiblehuman 9 months ago
Watkins is a byproduct of affirmative action. Nonsense.
The442nd 9 months ago
this host seriously needs to go back to high school. he sounds duuuuuumb.
FuckUtube4Life2010 9 months ago
Q: Whats the diffrence between a park bench and a black guy?
A: The park bench can support a family
longiehornz 9 months ago
black people...get your shit together-- that's what bill cosby is trying to tell black people. tough love is better than no love...which is what kids and the youth get from unintelligent/beat-down/ignorant black people having babies
chatham2006 9 months ago
Bill Cosby speaks the truth. A lot of hit dogs hollered when he addressed the class of black that he did. We have too many opportnities now days to where we can get out of the hood. Most of us are not born into a middle class home, yet we were able to do what we needed to do go get out of the hood, get our education and become tax paying cititzens. The problem WE have in our community is that we praise and celebrate the "hood life" and we've become so content with it rater than try to leave it.
Blakmajik78 9 months ago
@Blakmajik78 I DONT DO THAT DONT GENERALIZE
martystreets 9 months ago
@YourBlackBrothers
Title: "Black Scholar Boyce Watkins v Bill Cosby"
This title is misleading Bill Cosby wouldn't give boyce the time of the day. This "Bill Cosby" VS Boyce is just a fantasy.
BbdHome 10 months ago
WHY do so many Black people care what white people think.
I can't take him serious
terrinyc29 10 months ago
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mamacornettesmoney 10 months ago
Wow!!!! Dr. Watkins cares what white people think......sad. This black scholar with all his degrees in Black studies suffers from White Supremacy
terrinyc29 11 months ago
@terrinyc29 Yeah he does. he's one of the many sad black scholars who are so wraped up in race that they can't see outside of their little racist corner.
mamacornettesmoney 10 months ago
thank god for mr. cosby...his facts werent wrong his no. werent wrong..hes speaks from experience...hes a good, relative man
oleanderman 11 months ago
Cmon black people....we know the solutions....we just won't carry them out....stay in school....go to college and get an education....and get a good job before you CONSIDER bringing a child into the world....why do we need someone to tell us to do these things...i just don't get it
nike2950 11 months ago 21
@nike2950YEA BUTS HES GENERALIZING LIKE CRAZY ITS EMBARASSING WHEN I KNOW MANY BLACKS WHO DONT FIT IN THAT CATEGORIES!!! HES SHITTING ON ME MY FAMILY AND OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR I KNOW WHO ARE DOING GOOD. THATS WHY I SAY YOU HAVE TO LIVE FOR YOURSELF!1 THE BEST WAY FOR BLACKS TO GET BETTER IS IGNORE THIS BS AND DO GOOD FOR THEMSELVES AND FAMILY ! BY THE WAY IM A VETERAN 26 AND I HAVE A KID OUT OF WED LOCK BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO GET MARRIED AND AGNOSTIC
martystreets 9 months ago
@martystreets - No, I don't think it will work or lead to success if everyone (people like yourself) just go off & start living a selfish or self-centered life. People need to learn & understand to have both empathy & compassion. Dr. King believed in the life of a movement; the life of a people who cared for each other & who helped to advanced each other. We can't forget the sacrifices & greatness of all the people who died for us- King said WE as a PEOPLE will get to the Promise Land.
shieldsff 9 months ago
@shieldsff honestly does it matter? U have to live for yourself. I wasn't saying that you should be self centered or selfish. you have to just live and better yourself as a individual not as a race. we are individuals!! Thats where i believe this argument is flawed. In America there is always a need to categorize and stereotype . i guess its easier! Im doing good just focusing on the my family,gym, and family. Im not worry about other people because A PERSON NOT A COLOR!
martystreets 9 months ago
@martystreets Just because you served the army does not mean you cannot have views that are questionable.
fmcneillii 9 months ago
@fmcneillii ry. its my opinion I believe what i want i don't think anything really matters . My views haven't prevented me from succeeding in life.
martystreets 8 months ago
@fmcneillii i was in the army.
martystreets 8 months ago
@fmcneillii yes, your response to martystreets is correct. Also, because someone participants in the military is no basis for assuming that their views are correct or accurate. In fact, it's a reasonable basis for questioning their judgments & opinions on any number of political issues
shieldsff 8 months ago
ALSO. I dont think you totally Understand what dr. king msg was. It was more about having freedom,Liberty......
which im practicing right now.
F.Y.I DONT CALL SOMEONE SELFISH WHEN THEY SACRIFICE THERE HEALTH FIGHTING FOR YOUR ASS!!! I WAS DISCHARGED IN 09' HONORABLY !
martystreets 9 months ago
@martystreets - I see what you're sayin' man, but in reality, you WERE NOT fighting for me, your community, your city, etc... You were fighting for other people's greed & domination.
shieldsff 8 months ago
@shieldsff either way you contradicted yourself.. even if you believe it was for greed & domination im not just doing it for myself hence i am not selfish or self centered. And as much as you might think servicemen dont fight for u lets see if our countries defenses do away for day !! we would be done in hours just food for thought. and u know that so why would u say that i dont belive some cicilians understand how real the world outside united states.
martystreets 8 months ago
@nike2950
Wow you are right.
computerjunkdotcom 5 months ago
@nike2950 I agree with you completely.
fistoffries 2 months ago
Also the truth about problems in the black community are tha the are like all problems and they "evolve" like a animal. I have had the luxury to travel the world and I noticed that many of our problems are relative to those in poverty not just blacks.
Mrallmusic21 1 year ago
But one problem I notice in the black community is the fire we feed to the race issue alone, this is why I agree with Juan Williams and realisticallly I do not believe its possible not to teach our youth about the issues of racism however it is equally harmful because we keep the fire lit. ...I think because of Bill Cosby past issue with the death of his son he speaks out of emotion when he is so critical of black people and that is natural because human beings are driven by the"human emotion"
Mrallmusic21 1 year ago
@Mrallmusic21 Well said
mamacornettesmoney 10 months ago
Dr. Boyce your existence and knowledge can never be over-looked you are imeasurable ..I agree given the media that watches OX, Larry King, Cosby should have been more critical wit his choice of words because of he listening audience..However is not what Cosby saying the truth? I am a strong believer that it is better to be an individual who is not negatively influenced by external forces. Rather than the individual who looks to blame those external forces that negatively influence black youth.
Mrallmusic21 1 year ago
@Mrallmusic21 ?? His audience was an NAACP funtcion. He speaks TO black people. Why should he be critical? That is foolish. This cowards approach will get you nowhere. be a man (or woman, but be strong). Cosby is advocating SELF imporvment. the NAACP got pissed at him for that! They should have had self respecting blacks leaving the NAACP in droves, or at least overturning the leadership.
mamacornettesmoney 10 months ago
I agree with most of what Bill Cosby said, but if you are going to speak about the ills of the Black community, go to it and say it and state the causes and give solutions. However, I say this without reading his book, but in all the lectures I saw of him, I did not hear causes or solutions, just stating the problems.
ACelloFella 1 year ago
Boyce Watkins is a punk ass
CrazyBrah21 1 year ago
you people take life way to seriously
bamond8016321 1 year ago
"black bullshit" what is "white bullshit"?
mdriddler 1 year ago
@mdriddler same thing, white trash, white inner city ghetto. its jsut more prevalent in the black community.
TheYoungTurds1 1 year ago
Boyce Watkins is the typical self righteous black man. He is just ass backwards on everything. "Black bullshit" is what i like to call it.
APontiacof455cubes 1 year ago
@APontiacof455cubes You my friend are a simple minded moron. Go read a book.
NewYorkCityUSA7 1 year ago 2
Most of the people that agree with Mr Cosby are not bourgeois, as most like Mr Cosby, were not born to affluent parents. Mr Cosby's mother was a maid his father was in the US Navy.
Most of us were born in that same Ghetto you speak of,but some how found a way to get the hell out, make a better life for themselves and their children.
We took responsibility for ourselves and made sure our children attended school.
Some are still blaming others for their plight.
"ONE MAN'S OPINION"
ebonyrod2 1 year ago
Negroes like Boyce Watkins want blacks to feel disenfranchised and angry because he has built an entire industry around himself to keep 'fighting the good fight".
I think it is so funny that some ghetto Negroes still do not see thru a phony like Boyce Watkins and try and claim the most desperate thing as racism.
What a pathetic bunch of Negroes
rasalghul5555 1 year ago
what about the 1000s of vids on youtube of large roving packs of black thugs committing crimes of extreme violence upon innocent people & then cheering & celebrating with great pride? please address this segment of black culture.
gretschsounds 1 year ago
@gretschsounds thousands of videos? Link me to five. If you can't find five, put one here. You seriously need to see a psychiatrist for your delusions, Racism should be categorized as a mental disorder, it's nothing but paranoid delusions. THOUSANDS? Who talks like this? Get help please.
booboonation 1 year ago
...and yes, I know several very intelligent blacks, and several very athletic whites, so spare me the simplistic responses. I'm talking about averages, and if you're unable to comprehend that, then it really doesn't matter if you're a racist or not, since your opinion is worth very little.
PumpingSmashkins 1 year ago
if you subscribe to the presented-as-indisputable-fact that blacks have the same average IQ as whites or asians, then you're a racist. Obviously, blacks are better athletes, and have several other significant and undeniable physiological differences from other races. So believing the conventional wisdom, despite scientific research and common sense to the contrary, clearly makes you a racist, since you believe that blacks are equal intellectually but superior physically...therefore superior...
PumpingSmashkins 1 year ago
@PumpingSmashkins 1st post should have read, "presented-as-indisputable-fact belief that..."
so sorry.
PumpingSmashkins 1 year ago
If you cant accept criticism, then you will NEVER improve.
tallsmile28 1 year ago
its not about acting white or acting black. It may be cool to be a gangsta for a while, while you are young (if you dont get shot first or end up end jail) but you know what, it's cooler to get an education and become what you want to be and to support a family. It doesn't matter if you're black or white. DO THE RIGHT THING ALWAYS. That is the problem with black and white people, instead of doing the right thing, we say: The other group is so wrong. If everyone fixes themselves, we all win.
joshjanelletaz 1 year ago
@joshjanelletaz i agree with you totally on this! thumbs up. its not a race issue but I think some african americans are so effected by what racism did/ is doing to others ( i.e. not just blacks..hello? when is the last time you saw a native americans??) that they become racist themselves and just further the problem.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
Yea Bro, black people r a gift 2 humanity being that we r the orig. people & where all other races stem from, on the continent of Africa! The other races realize our greatness & is the reason for demonizing the black race! Me personally am so very proud of my black people even us poor blacks, we r such a beautiful people, I love our bodies, our swagger & I espcially love the fact that we've come up from the HELLS OF SLAVERY, to be able to compete with the white folks!That's saying something!WORD
therealestsista 1 year ago
parents plant a seed. but if they dont weed the garden the plant wont grow
stevin47 1 year ago
Boyce Watkins said EVERYTHING on point. the majority of black ppl on here who agree wit bill cosby are bourgeois blacks anyway they have a different perspective on black issues than blacks from the gutta. but i'd agree with Boyce Watkins 110% MORE than bill cosby.
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago 51
@RottenPeachState706.....OH PLEASE.....stop complaining about white people!
page371069 1 year ago
@page371069 gul shutup. if we didnt voice our perspectives on our lives NOBODY would know OR care so no you stop pullin' dat white folks ass "race card(reverse racism) bullshit
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706....oh please....you are the type of negro that would blame white people for everything.....this is all about black folks being dumb and reckless.
page371069 1 year ago
@page371069 #1 you not black #2 notice how you say black ppl like all of us do reckless shit. but look at you white people you murder HUNDREDS of thousands of ppl during a decade who's worse peter
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 ....I am black....now what?
page371069 1 year ago
@page371069 i doubt it anybody can steal pictures & put it iin your icon yo rhetoric suggests you white
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 ......Just face it.....there are some blacks, like myself, who are tired of hearing black people complain and blame white people. It's not whitey's fault. Get a clue!
page371069 1 year ago
@page371069 smh overlooking issues will NOT get them dealt wit' get over your appeasement chromosome. you kiss ass to them white folks for EVERYTHING in the world wear your hair JUST like them, lighten your skin tryin' to be like them, even adopt their speech patterns in order to talk like them you OREO'S make me sick but like i said i doubt you even black in da first place so im not gonna get drawn into this here
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 ......it is a class issue....poor blacks are the ones holding back the our community. i can't stand them and their ghetto behavior.
page371069 1 year ago
@page371069 "the problem is we started thinking like the colonists" that quote is oh so true tell me how poor blacks from the gutta is holdin' back MY community you not black so you dont count. me personally i have no problem wit' black ppl moving up the economic ladder but this capitalistic system has got oreo's demonizing their own to distance themselves in the eyes of YOUR masters. you oreo's are da ones truly hindering progress what have yall contributed to black upliftment?
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
we gave the blacks oppurtunities to be heard through HIP HOP what have borgeois blacks done? except distance themselves from blacks from da gutta but whenever they're in trouble rely on the "i was discriminated against to b/c of my skin color crutch" to be able to identify with a struggle you silver spoon spoiled brats ALWAYS eat off our plates. what have bourgeois blacks given america fuck america what have they given the WORLD like poor blacks have given da world HIP HOP?
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Did you ever think that many middle class african americans started out poor? Many are not born with a silver spoon but they make the decision to get an education, and by the permission of God they are able to do better. Shouldn't you be happy to see African american do better?? I am from the ghetto ( what is a gutta??) but this is everything Bill Cosby spoke aganist. You should be able to spell better than that. people died, were shot and jailed for you to get an education.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
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RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
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RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
#1 dont call me an "african american" im BLACK
#2 if you dont know what the "Gutta" is then you not from the ghetto
#3 haha its funny you speak on education b/c i guarantee you nor cosby is nowhere near my intelligence and im 24
and its funny ow youtube philosophers can annoint someones intellect through a comment on youtube
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Did you ever think that many middle class african americans started out poor? Many are not born with a silver spoon but they make the decision to get an education, and by the permission of God they are able to do better. Shouldn't you be happy to see African American do better?? I am from the ghetto ( what is a gutta??) but this is everything Bill Cosby spoke against. You should be able to spell better than that. people died, were shot and jailed for you to get an education.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Hip Hop isn't a gift to anyone and those middle class african americans are the same people who provide you with the ability to make those records otherwise those rap artisits would be on corners singing for quarters or better yet in jail where most of them belong anyway!
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf no they actually didnt atually white ppl saw money in Hip Hop so they jumped down on it to maximize THEIR pocket linen bourgeois blacks hate Hip Hop to this day b/c they cant identify with it and are mad that niggas from the GUTTA that come from circumstances they could never imagine and make more $ than them
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Big businesses (i.e. not only white ppl) will go after whatever makes money. It is their business. This is well known in any society. But just don't blame the companies, what about those that take this bait? And use the excuse, "it's what the record company wanted!" as if they cannot make decisions for themselves. So their excuse really is, " I just want money and will say whatever they want me on this record to get it." Prostitution at it's "finest" and they play victim.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf 2nd are you even BLACK? you keep sayin' "african american" most black ppl i've come across dont even use the term "aa" and im BLACK my damn self and just goes to show your processed Oreo thinkin' that cause the wide chasm between economics now sayin' Hip Hop artists deserve to be in jail without givin' ANY plausible reasons for such. smh i despise you Oreo's
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Firstly, I prefer the term "African American" to " blacks" because the majority of US ( including myself) aren't "black" we are brown, so the term "African American" appeals to me more than "black" Its a personal preference.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf so what do you know about AFRICA since you call yourself an "AFRICAN-american"? you types are the conformists of our community and the ones who sell other blacks out and blame them for the "stereotypes" that are labeled upon them by the ones who created the stereotypes to describe them anyways your rhetoric is basically that of a white boy no difference
and dont call me an "African-american" im not an african american im BLACK
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
that is why Africans from the Continent call you "African-americans" white or "american" b/c you know NOTHING of the culture's that exist there but you steadily callin' yourself an "african-american" for what
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf and where does "african-american" come into the picture describing to be "brown"? so thats why you call yourself "african-american" b/c you yourself are "brown" i DONT see the correlation in that AT ALL
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@page371069 you know what sdfu bitch im getting tired of your ass keep dissing black people yeah you try to be white bitch but stop trying to you will never be white you stupid cunt
chynacrawford07 1 year ago
@page371069 its not poor blacks. it is uneducated blacks..no ignorant blacks. An uneducated black person with self respect can raise their children to be respectful and contribute to society. A black person with a college degree could allow their son to wear his pants with his behind showing and listen to garbage and be a loser. The person with the degree, in this case, is ignorant even more ignorant than the uneducated person. but im tired of ignorant blacks also ..ignorant ppl period.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf smh and what have you contributed to society more than likely NOTHIN' just like the rest of you youtube sociologists
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Im actually working as a teacher and finising a paper for college on this issue, which is the reason I am even looking at this video. So to answer you I have at least begun to contribute to my society. Don't assume that because i am on youtube I'm some lonely lazy person. That would be a mistake to use such prejudice. many people use youtube from wealthy to dirt poor.
Ummiyusuf 1 year ago
@Ummiyusuf so you contribute to the plights of blacks by writing a paper for college on an issue that you have no basic concept of? what REAL contribution have you done for "african-americans" besides write thesis's on the issue
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706
Bill Cosby became a successful, respected American when he grew up in a time in the US when there was REAL racism.
Today's negroes are the loudest cry babies whining at the mere possibility of racism - when ironically they are the most racist monkeys. I have seen teen blacks make fun of asians on trains and buses for the way they talk with an accent.
Can you imagine ikf a white kid made fun of blacks at their ebonics?
Racism pendulum has swung the the other way
rasalghul5555 1 year ago
@rasalghul5555 smh gyeah "REAL OVERT" racism
now its all COVERT
and "monkeys"? if you say so but only on the computer snowflake
and if we didnt point out racism ppl would think everythang was all good and its NOT miss me with your supposed response to my comment nothin' in your comment is relevant at all snowbunny
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706
Is calling me snowflake and snow bunny another way negroes are desperately trying to update the insult of "honky" LMAO!!!!
I thought you ppl were a lot better at coming up with insults since that is all you ppldo all day instead of going to work or anything or value
rasalghul5555 1 year ago
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yserrant 1 year ago
@yserrant gyeah back like "70" YEARS ago! i dont wanna hear dat no more he need to take his ol' sellout ass and sit his ass down somewhere
his opinon holds NO weight in da black community so i could actually care less he's been separated from the black community for too long to try to establish a threshold for communication now fuck cosby now you can tell him that
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Yeah all Bill did was create shows with positive images like The Cosby Show, A Different World, films with Sidney Poitier, short documentary series in the 60s about the miseducation of black children, & give money to various Black education foundations. Boyce Watkins does what?
If I was Bill & saw all my work turn to shit & fools get mad when I say man up and act right, I'd say peace too. Fuck YOU, Watkins, & all you other whiny "Why'd you leave the hood?" ass niggas.
yserrant 1 year ago
@yserrant #1 the cosby show was NEVER big where im from
#2 all "his" work?? gtfoh he was a fuckin' "comedian" who really never had any following in the black community even back then i ask all da old heads from around the way they say he was an uncle tom sambo dancin' for them white ppl back then and he LEFT the hood i thought it was about REbuilding the community when you have $ not leaving and then lecturing from a distance believing he will have ANY standing here when he LEFT like all
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
other blacks who left he was a poor black man back in the "40's" thats "70" years ago he has BEEN out of touch thats why nobody listens to him or pays him any mind he's the same man that told blacks to stop namin' our children "afro-centric" names and start naming our kids "bill, mandy, becky" and we suppose to ride with HIM? um NAW bruh dats NOT how it G-O
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Yeah! Let's keep naming our kids with the "Afro" centric names; you know: names like: Passion or Luqucia. Names that sound like they were made up by a 12 year-old.
Then make sure that we don't speak "Euro" centric language correctly or conform to white standards. That way we can ensure that we will always start with a handicap when we go on job interviews (you know, where the money is!!)
It's your way of thinking that keeps us down! You are a damn fool!!
wenlinkel 1 year ago
@wenlinkel so basically from what i deduce from your comment is: forget our history and just follow suit like you sellouts and transform into a highly DILUTED race with foreign traditions, and cultures and all of the above to suit them crackas.... BOY STOP get yo sell-out ass on somewhere OREO im da "fool" b/c i dont condone blacks naming themselves "euro-centric" names and assumin' their identities?? ummmmm SO YOU SAY oreo
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 The way I look at it is basically like this: If I were to somehow magically appear another planet with a group of aliens that had a different culture than we have here on earth--I wouldn't be so bullheaded as to insist that "I am an earthling--respect my earth culture!" If it meant that everyday I lived a less than satisfying live and had to struggle to get through every day; I would "learn their ways" and use it to my advantage. You need to free your mind! N' I like oreo's!
wenlinkel 1 year ago
@wenlinkel horrible analogy i shouldnt even have to respond to that. but i will.. theres ALOT of key components you failed to put into that analogy. should i go on? or should i embarrass you on this comment page? but before i embarrass you on here i'll let you revise that dumb fuck ass analogy 'fore i roast you and i BET you do like Oreo's OREO
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 I think that it is perfect analogy. If I insisted that they conform to my "Earth" heritage they would just laugh and think that I'm a dumb-ass. I could rant-n-rave all I wanted to and I would just look like a damn fool (sound famililar?). If I took your postition I would have to remain angry all the time and I still doubt that I could convince anyone that my arguments were valid. Bottom line: It all comes down to money; how do I support me and mine and still take a stand?
wenlinkel 1 year ago
@wenlinkel VERY well stated!
mamacornettesmoney 10 months ago
@yserrant #3 im soooo glad yall have NO weight in our community with this backwards ass logic to where you say we should conform to white euro-centric standards b/c when you back bill cosby THATS what you are supporting our ancestors would never like whats goin' on with us now as a ppl and how we kill ourselves but im pretty sure they would be DISGUSTED about us sellin' out and CONFORMING just so you Oreo's can feel better around white ppl fuck them AND yall point blank period
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 Too ALL that bullshit I say: nigga please.
Next thing you gonna tell me is Muhammad Ali was just a boxer. Why don't you go to Wikipedia and search Bill Cosby, and READ some facts. I'm from East Oakland with a Black Panther mother & I got a M.A. Euro my ass.
Niggas just love to hate.
yserrant 1 year ago
@yserrant look at who really had an effective IMPACT it wasnt really bill cosby the only thing i WILL give him credit for was to aspire for more with that cosby show cuz i didnt know black folks could live like that and dont EVER compare cosby to Muhammad Ali EVER
and its funny you mention Panthers did you know cosby is and was against the Panthers? my WHOLE family is/was apart of the Indianapolis Chapter of the Black Panthers
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
look on my channel and look up who Gregory Resnover & Tommie Smith were.
im from Down South in GA Columbus GA 2nd largest city in GA and you statin' that you from east oakland means what....
and you have a "m.a." AND that makes you more intelligent than someone who doesnt? um naw so i dont know why you would bring that up i congratulate all black ppl when they accomplish shit like dat so congrats bruh but you on some other shit
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
and you say "niggas love to hate"? HOW THE FUCK AM I "HATIN"???
you ppl nowadays use the word "hate" where it does NOT apply
im "hating" on bill cosby?? when has it been laeled "hatin" when you state the OBVIOUS TRUTH?? he a "black" man who says he doesnt like blacks to name their kids Afro-Centric names and wants ppl to start namin' their kids Euro/Anglo-saxon names and i criticize his KNOWN sellout ass for it and "I'M" "hatin"???? gtfoh
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 On Youtube look up " Bill Cosby Documentary ReEducation" and "A Boy Like Me".
I'm bet him hating the Panthers is another one of the "facts" spread through the nigganet.
yserrant 1 year ago
@yserrant i dont need to look that shit up i seen enough of his videos and interviews to know what he was/is about
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@yserrant & ALSO notice how you answered NONE of the shit i said
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@yserrant You're right. All Bill did was create shows with positive images like The Cosby Show, A Different World, a films with Sidney Poitier, short documentary series in the 60s about the miseducation of black children, & give money to various Black education foundations. Boyce Watkins does what?
If I was Bill as saw all my work turn to shit & fools get mad when I say man up and act right, I'd say peace too.
Fuck YOU, Watkins, & all you other whiny "Why'd you leave the hood?" ass niggas.
yserrant 1 year ago
@RottenPeachState706 "bourgeois blacks?" What about "educated" blacks/ African Americans. You say it as if these "educated blacks" have a distorted, improper point of view on black issues. When is reality, these "educated blacks" are pointing out the problems and are trying help resolve them.
TheYoungTurds1 1 year ago
@TheYoungTurds1 #1if you're not black dont speak on anythang about us
#2 i dont believe they are tryin' to "resolve" anythang they are tryin' to appease to you white folks and make you feel good about the black circumstance
and again if you're NOT black dont comment on OUR shit this has got to do wit' US not you white folks we dont need your interference i think yall've done enough "interference" throughout the years dont ya think
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago