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  • UNC doesn't just have more championship rings and beating Duke in the Tabacco Road Rivalry, but they have a better pro sucess too.

    Let's see UNC: Vin-Sanity, Jamison, Walter Davis, Bob McAdoo, Jerry Stackhouse, Lee Schaffer, Bobby Jones, Sheed, Charles Scott, Brad Daughtery and 3 Hall of Famers, MJ, Cunningham and Big Game James

  • I found this funny, but I wouldn't mind which direction the hate were directed to, considering I'm a Kentucky Wildcat fan.

  • uncle tom nigga wait he aint a nigga a BRACKER

  • Is that the black guy from scrubs?

  • fuck you faggot

  • Man dontcha love how Duke was a #1 seed in the tournament last year, but yet, UNC went 1 more round than them?Oh and just wait till this season, we are going to put the back up to our back-up in, and still beat you.

  • @ccbpeanutbutter Didn't you love how Duke beat you guys five times and a row now

  • @tribefanjames five times in a row? Last season UNC played duke 3 times. 2 times for regular season, and once for the ACC tournament finals. Duke won the first meeting, then UNC came back and won the second meeting. In the ACC finals you guys beat us again. The season before that, we lost to you guys twice. And the season before THAT(which was 2008-2009) we won the National championship and didn't lose to you at all that year. In the past 3 seasons the longest UNC losing streak was 3 games.

  • @tribefanjames so do some damn research before you try to act like you know what the fuck your talking about, dumbass.

  • He just passed away last year. Have some damn respect. From a KU fan. Doughtery will be missed.

  • why bother with this loser???? Bam takes after his dad and loves the little boys!!!! fucking idiot!!!! graduating from Sucking Dick U isn't a top 50 school boy!!!!!

  • @jphil1971 But jphildeeznuts, did you like it?

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  • HEY GUYS! NOTICE HE ONLY RESPONDS TO CERTAIN COMMENTS THAT HE CAN COUNTER XD HE'S SO SORRY!!

  • @EnigmoEnigmo Doesn't take much to counter you. You're an idiot who graduated from a top 50 school. How 'bout that math? Y'all so sorry! Haaa!

  • @EnigmoEnigmo Can't believe you hit back with "HEY GUYS!" As if you believe you have an audience of fans that come back to this page to see what ur gonna say next. HA! You're a lonely bama in your room by yourself angry that you came to this page to enjoy some Duke hate and got tricked by the title and now you're mad. HA! You know I'm right. Now come on back and enjoy this video one more time while you post your silly reply. I know, I know, you turned the sound down. Ha! Y'all so sorry!

  • @bamvader first off if im an idiot, i wouldn't have graduated from college at all. second, my first comment proved that UNC is better than duke in basketball. third, no, im not mad, in fact, im laughing at how pathetic this video is, fourth, if you have to name a video the exact opposite just to express an opinion, then you are pretty pathetic. fifth, i like how you call my comments "silly". if they are so silly, why reply? and btw you still have yet to say how we are sorry. lol YOU SO SORRY!

  • 550 UNC fans are angry that they got tricked into coming to this page to enjoy some Duke hate, and then had to sit through this with their teeth and fists clinched. HAA!!

  • UNC has more overall wins, more championships, more head to head victories, and more final fours than Puke. That's all.

  • @bamvader lol let's do some more math: champs, 5 > 4, undefeated season: 1 > 0, Score between UNC and Duke, 131 > 101, NCAA Final Fours 18 > 15. Lololololololol "Yall so sorry!"

  • how many championship does unc has? and how many does unc have pro? and duke? yeah you guys need to shut the hell up you are embarrassing yourself

  • unc sucks. first of all, dukes a better college, richer,, better academic, than unc. duke has a better program under coach, roy williams is a great coach, but not as good as coach k. this yr they r getting number one prospect from high school, austin rivers. how come if unc is soo good he aint goin there, oh yeah cuz he knows if he plays more duke he will become a better player.

  • @ChargerHockey96 - and based on the grammar in your post i'm guessing you didn't get into either school.

  • Duke blows cock.

  • Duke can go bust a nut with the refs

  • 05' and 09'

  • Zona says YALL SO SORRY

    lollllll

  • "he's crying!".... @bamvader do you have a penis?

  • I guess he forgets about JJ Reddick crying after his ass got whoop by UNC on senior night.. hahahahahaha

  • @pkendall09 HELL YEAH

  • Dukes sucks!

  • @royrage50 =) love you

  • How did it feel to lose to Arizona b4 we lost to Kentucky!!!!!

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  • Pretty funny watching a Duke fan make fun of UNC guy for CRYING... Duke cornered the market on crying in college bball.

  • how did it feel to lose to Kentucky

  • looks like you have a lot of friends

  • UNC ELITE 8....call up Smith and Singler so they can come over and watch the game with you.

  • i have to agree

  • ssshhhuuuttt ttthhaaa ffuuukkkk uuuppppp... Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!

  • WTF happened u fukin dookie? u guys lost to arizona in the ncaa tournament!

  • @theprodegy472 wtf happened to duke? we lost to a good team. Im not saying you guys didnt loose to a good team but the arrogant fans that you guys are think that you worked your ass off to get to the elite 8. Well sorry bud but you didnt. You beat a 15 seed, a 7 seed, and an 11 seed. Is that somthing to be proud of? naw not really bud.

  • someone replied to me saying that unc only had 5 national championships... the fact of the matter is people forget about the title in the 1920's before the ncaa was huge. truth is, we still won it.

  • look at all these jealous UNC fans xD , why u guys come and comment on a video supporting duke, get a life and stop talking about the past and how UNC has more titles. we are still a better team this year.

  • @dukeaddict237

    Are you fucking retarded, or just blind? This video has an obviously misleading title, as is only up for trolling purposes.

  • @ketnerj Definitely misleading. Fishing for fools who want to watch a Duke hate clip, but instead get smacked in the face with this clip. Ha

  • this guy is precisely the reason why I hate college sports and all its stupid fans.

  • DUKE

  • at least when we had a bad season our coach had the balls to own it and improve. he didn't bow the f*** out with phantom "back problems".

  • You are a nigger. That's why I'm laughing at you.....nigger!

  • Yall can talk all the shit yall want. Get off the Duke Bandwagon, Yeah we had a bad season last year. Oh flippin well. We recovered. I'd like to think we did pretty damn good this year. Put an ass whoopin on yall, but yall returned it. Ain't gunna take that away. But Yall cannot call Duke the better team, when we have more ncaa championships, apperances, final 4 appearnces, more 1st rd picks in the drafts. Only thing yall have better is acc tourny, and yall have 2 more then us -______-.

  • get a life uploader

  • Truth is: 6>4.

    I'm not gunna be one of those UNC fans who blatantly puts a stereotype on duke fans saying they're all morons and idiots and a bunch of snobby people, because in truth, every time either team wins, every fan becomes a snobby, idiotic moron and rubs it in the losing team face. The fact of the matter is that no matter who wins or loses against the other, UNC has two more national titles than Duke, and until Duke matches it or passes it, UNC is the better overall basketball team.

  • @bullcityhoops94 ummm i'm a duke fan and to say that until we have more titles than unc we are not a better team is stupid. UNC is a better overall basketball program because they have won more head to head match ups is what i would say. i mean look at it this way we've been to 10 national titles so thats kinda a dumb stat to go by

  • @bullcityhoops94 UNC PWNAGE!!!

  • @bullcityhoops94 nice try. Carolina has 5 championships, the first one coming in 1957. You are still right with your argument, but get the facts straight next time.

  • YOU SUCK !!

  • YOU SUCK AND I DON'T GET IT !

  • something in your life will happen that's important enough for a cry. One day....don't worry....

  • 0:29 keep pressing it on play its a very evil laugh

  • nigga please

  • DUKE ROCKZ everyone else sucks

  • @HOPIINDIANS guess you are included in 'everyone.' Duke fans don't have the intelligence God gave a brick. Bunch of whining, snobbish, wine and cheese jerks that don't have anything that daddy didn't give them.......someone can't be a real man and be a Duke fan.

  • I bet you didn't even go to dook.

  • im a duke fan but i wanted unc to win it would have reinfoced the acc's dominance them losing just makes us look bad

  • Turk? shouldnt you be at the hospital helping J.D.?

  • DUKE NATIONAL CHAMPS.....UNC NIT CHAMPS...OO WAIT...HAHAHAHAHA NIT? REALLY? WHERE IS THE PRIDE MR WILLIAMS? GET YOUR BOYS TOGETHER, COME DOWN TOBACCO ROAD FOR ANOTHER HUMILIATING LOSS TO THE BLUE DEVILS

  • you likeit in the ass

  • @machisimojoe why thank you haha

  • LOL @ 0:26 XDD

  • Im huge duke fan but i gotta admit i do respect North Carolina for the great games they give us every year.....NC 09 champs tell me that right there alone didn't motivate Duke to the title

  • @TexasRaTleSnake316 that easy road to the title game motivated us, LETS GO DUKE!!!

  • Fuck doherty...he ruined our program for that period of time. And all UNC fans...its ok bc no team can keep on winning 2 NATIONAL TITLES every 5 years. Duke was experiencing the same thing that we are experiencing now. Last year sucked dick for us and this year isnt to much better but it will get better. I hate it but Duke seems to be the best team by far this year but we will win another title soon.

  • Duke is a good team..but UNC is a GREAT team...Duke can suck it

  • @TarholeTerrorizer cute name. yes, we went to the NIT one year, congrats for recognizing. we're not a perennial failure like south carolina or auburn, remember we have more NCAA championships than d00k and we're second in all-time wins, so how is your fail institution better than us? "just cuz?" actually, tell me after you're finished sucking my cock. GO HEELS

  • tarhole fans are pussy cocksuckers, they live in trailer parks and spread diseases, they're vile scum bags.

    fagolina rednecks, keep on hating DUKE while you watch your goat clan choke in the NIT, lmao. pussy tarholes

  • it's funny because they suck and they know it, so when a sorry-ass coach like matt daugherty starts to sniffle ("cry") on television they have something to talk about, cuz they certainly can't talk about their sports programs at all. GO HEELS

  • @uncblue92

    you talk trash after your goat clans loses in the NIT? and gets slaughtered by Duke last season? and fagolina gets beat first round of acc tourney and can't make the NCAA because they suck so much? You ignorant back woods cocksucker, grow a brain why don't you. And also, you root for a school that has a goat for a mascot, idiot. So who sucks? YOU DO TARHOLE TRASH.

  • ah Silly Nigger!

  • how is this funny

  • All of u UNC fans go piss and moan to mommy and daddy like roy williams himself said who gives a shit about unc tyvm now bow down and kiss coach K's mighty balls

  • YO DUKE FANS WHO HAS ROBED YOU GUYS IN 2005 & 2008 wow first champs this decade we have it twice yea STFU U STILL GOT NOTHING ON US OH AND ALSO THE TEABAG PAULUS BY VT YEA SUCK IT

  • @FUE1Reaper In this decade/century, Duke leads the series vs. UNC 16-9. We also have 2 national titles this decade and we can also communicate without using ALL CAPS.

  • This vid was gay. And Duke sucks.

  • @Dukesucks defendin national champs and we are goin to repeat, so if that sucks then so be it

  • Why are you still living in 2003, bamvader? You posted this the day before the 2006 regular season, when Carolina was reigning national champions. You were crying then, we had our glory. Now we're crying (well, I personally am not. Only time I cried was the Kansas Final 4 '08. *shudder*) and you have your glory. We were good for 5 years, now it's yall's turn. That's how it works. I bleed Carolina blue, but I have class, something Duke (and Carolina) fans seem to lack more and more. *sigh* :D

  • fuck duke

  • @uncboy2028 next time you try to diss someone, at least spell douche right. That might help them take you a little more seriously......douche.........­..GO DUKE

  • @uncboy2028  next time you try to diss someone, at least spell douche right. That might help them take you a little more seriously......douche

  • @deaconduncan5 HILARIOUS!

  • Duke is the best team in college basketball right now (which is the only thing that matters), but North Carolina overall is a better program. Those are the facts, sorry Duke fans

  • @SgtPeppers196714 i humbly disagree, what about UCLA and john Wooden, what facts are u using?

  • @baleswb no i said better program than Duke. Of course UCLA and Kentucky are the two elite programs, I am just saying that UNC is better program than Duke, just by a hair though.

  • by the way does UNC have 5 trophies or 7

  • Sorry tarheel fans...............Roy Williams and his goons are looking at years of getting their asses kicked by DUKE................good luck you gonna need it....you thought you got your butts kicked last year wait until this coming year its gonna be real UGLY......hopefully your basketball team can do their own exams lol

  • hahaha "ya'll so sorry!"

  • When UNC come to Cameron Indoor Stadium & get a look at our beautiful NEW 2010 NCAA Basketball Championship Banner. The Cameron Crazies will quickly then remind them of 82-50 with 82-50 chants, I mean I can almost hear it now...82-50,82-50,82-50,82-50,­82-50,82-50,82-50,82-50 & then after were done with that one its gone to be NIT chants,NIT,NIT,NIT,NIT,NIT,NIT­,NIT,NIT man I can't wait to see those NIT Runner Up,College of Charleston loss,30 point losing TARHELLS.

    LETS GO DUKE!

  • @thuglife129 thats what im fuckin talking about!

  • hey dook douche bag. how does Coach K have 4 NCAA Titles and still have a losing record to UNC? I'll let u figure that 1 out. UNC > Duke

  • @TheTarheelmusicman & how does Duke went 2 the Dean Dome & won 8 out of the last 12,& how has Duke had a better recorded vs UNC since the year 2000,& how has Duke not been n the NIT(NOT INVITED TOURNAMENT) n 15 years which Coah K didn't even coach half the season that yr,& how has Duke whooping that ass by 30 points against UNC especially when UNC has never beating a Coach K Duke Team by 30.

    Duke the best, We will win again this year, & with that 30 point loss ya'll had to us ya'll need 2 STFU!

  • the best video I've ever seen. Fuck UNC>

  • @captainkill1 fuk all DukE's

  • Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha this shit is classic.

  • yet again another sorry duke fan hating on unc, as many times unc has spanked that tail you guys should just shut up.

  • @thegoodguy181 You must be mental. Three things....... NIT, Lose by 30, We son the National Championship. End of story. Oh, and lose at your place too. Hope our championship banner looks nice when you arrive!

  • @thegoodguy181 Did you enjoy thattrip to the NIT this year? Y'all are so sorry!

  • @bamvader Hey Bamvader, man you are the biggest beast on earth. your laugh is epic.

  • @bamvader

    did yall enjoy the cake walk in the NCAA tourney?

  • @bamvader enjoy having 4 less NC's then UNC?

  • @Jamescaprio14 umm its not 4 less moron 

  • @bamvader Did you enjoy watching the game last night? LMAO! Just shows how overrated Puke really is.

  • @bamvader DUKE FOREVER AM I RIGHT

  • @bamvader did you enjoy starting off as a No. 1 seed and going out of the tourny before Carolina this year? How being the worst top-ranked team against unranked teams in the history of NCAA basketball?

  • @bamvader did you enjoy getting SPANKED by Arizona in sweet 16 this year????????????????? Y'ALL ARE SO SORRY

  • @bamvader AW. LETS DO A LITTLE MATH SHALL WE? BTW Dook lost in the SWEET (yeah right.) 16 last season. UNC made it to the elite 8. hahaha and now for the equation...oh wait. your a duke fan so you probably cant do it...here, ill do it for you...how many national championships does Carolina have? OKAY 6. Subtract 2. Thats how many Dook has! Awww poor wittle dookies and Nolan And Singler got their wittle asses beat by Arizona! Did yall enjoy it? HA Kyrie Irving. What a joke.

  • @deepriv123 Let's do some more math. How many times has UNC been to the post season NIT in the past ten years? 1. Duke? 0. HAA!! It was the perfect season for Duke. We win the Nation Championship. UNC makes it to the finals of the NIT championship and loses. Did you enjoy THAT? "Y'all so sorry!" Woo! Ha!!

  • @thegoodguy181 Duke is the defending champs

  • @thegoodguy181 That's all changed this year buddy:)

  • @thegoodguy181 yet again another unc fan commenting on a video of duke cause his pussy ass cant handle that this is the 2nd straight year were better than u guys. We won the acc title 3 years in a row. We won the NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP last year. You guys lost in the Not Invited Tournament. Man, you must be sad. LOL

  • @thegoodguy181 shows how much knowledge you lack. Duke would not have to hate on unc because they are by far better. Let me know when your coach is in 2nd ( will be in 1st next season) with the most all time wins.

  • Duke rules unc drools

  • Funny you have to put roy williams and dean smith together to equal Coach K's 4 NCAA titles....DUKE IS NO 1 again and will dominate the heels again....but dont worry heel fans maybe you can actually win the N.I.T. TITLE next year LOL

  • @lordclifton yet again another sorry duke fan hating on unc, as many times unc has spanked that tail you guys should just shut up

  • the dude on the video laughing looks like turk from scrubs doesnt it

  • lol at all the dook idiots come out the woodworks for the past years they were strangely silent......I look forward to shutting them up this season.

  • Head to head games, UNC-130, dookie-99

    Acc regular season champ, UNC-27, Dookie-19

    ACC tournament champs, Dookie-18, UNC-17

    NCAA final fours, UNC-18, dookie-15

    NCAA tournament champs, UNC-5, dookie-4

  • @TrippyMcFly43 when you look at the stats like that it barely seems like a rivalry

  • Holy shit get a job faggot

  • ur such a fag when u laugh it makes u look like a fucking dumbass. also duke sucks none of their players are good in the nba that cuz of their white trash and they know they will suck ass in the nba. buncha duke faggots

  • Ole VANILLA ICE...I MISS that worthless SCUMBAG....UNC TARHOLES Projected Starters 2010-2011 SEASON...

    PG--HARRISON BARNES

    SG--HARRISON BARNES

    SF--HARRISON BARNES

    PF--HARRISON BARNES

    C==HARRISON BARNES

  • As the saying goes, you can't polish a dookie.

  • LOL I'm a fan of neither but, seriously... UNC fans look at this and it makes themselves feel good because duke fans are like this. You're just making duke fans looking bad and immature.

  • UNC blows....... If they field was 96 THIS YEAR, they would have still be watching TV!

  • I'd like to thank all true Duke fans and all you haters for powering us to victory this year. UNC losing in the NIT championship is just the icing on the cake. Ha!!

  • @bamvader And getting Harrison Barnes, the player you guys wanted the most was the beginning of us eating that cake. If it leaves 8 miles, it always comes back.

  • @tidalwave399 Well...we won last years championship...and Kyle Singler is back (Sr Singler < freshman Barnes) so yeahh..Id say we r doing prety good right now.

  • @MisterRoddy1 damnit...haha i meant sr. singler > fr. barnes

  • @MisterRoddy1 Too bad the freshman plays like a senior.

  • @bamvader Talk your smack....that's all changed this year!

  • didnt ducke win the the NCAA championship.......

    o ya they really suck.....

    was north carolina in the tournamen?t...

    o ya my bad i forgot...

  • dush bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

  • @uncboy2028 Did you like it?

  • @uncboy2028 a perfect example on how stupid Unc fans are. You can't even spell douche bag.

  • @uncboy2028 is that how they spell it at unc?

  • reallly i mean dean smith coached the olympic team......is that why you guys had a nine year drought? oh i get it now....

  • without dook refs number 4 wouldn't be possible

  • fuck you goddamn carolina fans go to fucking hell.

  • rofl carolina fans never know when to shut the fuck up duke is the ncaa champions!....and you sorry tar heel bitches cud not even win the NIT so get over it

  • @xxrangepkftw I'd rather lose in the finals of the NIT than lose in the 2nd round of the tourney when you're a fucking 1 seed. At least you have dignity in that.

  • yeah so college basketball is over forever now right?? "UNC sucks" is written in stone now right?? naw, wrong we'll see who sucks next year. and maybe Duke will actually have a real bracket to play against. oh, but Duke still aint caught up, I forgot. I can keep talkin til Duke passes UNC in all these categories, which wont happen cus UNC doesn't stop like UCLA, we got Roy out here. I like to call him Mr. 2 titles in his first 7 years at UNC".

  • @EagleDrumma of course it was an easy bracket a typical excuse from a tar queer fan and this sux 4 u cuz dukes only gettin better next year with kyrie irving coming in. and this year shows roy williams isnt that good of a gametime coach cuz unc sucked dick this year even with the top recruits

  • @Dlions81 its the TRUTH and you know, that's why you're still not denying it. and neither did Jay BIlas. in a good year in college basketball, Duke doesn't win the championship. somethin crazy has to happen, like UNC, UCLA and UConn not being in the tournament

  • @EagleDrumma duke won it in 2001 and unc was in the tournament and what you said is just retarted so every year theres a "bad " year for ncaa duke just happens to win and why is it a bad year cuz ur precious tarqueers werent good. what constitutes a bad year anyway, dont say it jus cuz there wasnt one dominant team it was a bad year.

  • @Dlions81 watch out bitch next year we're comin for that #1 spot and Duke will take a backseat the UNC like it has and should be they had a good year winning the title but thats over now and UNC will be back on top again

  • @pistonsfan1991 hey at least we agree on the pistons, talk to me next year when duke is taxin that ass again,

    bitch

  • @pistonsfan1991 except tht duke is getting seth curry so you can fuck off and stay and the NIT like lil fucks you r

  • @dukeaddict237 We already took Harrison Barnes next year he alone could tear up Duke but we also got Henson who hopefully got a little more size then Bullock, and Marshall those where the 3 things UNC missed last year im sorry but if Singler doesnt come back Duke has no shot. Oh and back to Barnes we already took him expect the same with Austin RIvers

  • @pistonsfan1991 Not going to happen. Rivers will be at Duke. Barnes only went to UNC b/c Duke has no undergrad business and his middle name is Jordan. He doesn't belong at UNC, since he can speak proper english (ed davis). Irving routinely shuts down Marshall on the AAU circuit. Duke will be going back to the final four next year. And stomping unc's ass again. Maybe it wont be a 30 point blowout, but def a comfortable win.

  • @ThePublisher31 Since Roy Williams has been coach at UNC Duke has been 2nd well they always were but every year but last season UNC has had more success than Duke, thats not about to change the only thing difference between Barnes and Lebron is the Cavs logo across his jersey. Duke fans can only watch as Carolina quickly rebuilds to the championship teams they were in 05 and 09 and hate it or love it theres another 1 coming

  • @dukeaddict237 duke has had seth curry for 2 years now

  • @EagleDrumma youre an idiot once again

  • @oprah2 I done wit yall dog, we ALL know who has the better program, the facts speak for themselves. now what you gone say?? "I'm an idiot" again, because you know the truth and you're jealous??

  • where were all yall at last year?? 2005?? now yall Duke fans wanna come out when we have a bad season, cus yall know who has the better basketball school. and still barely won the title that the bracket makers tried to give to yall. Coach K must have gave somebody in the bracket staff some becky.

  • in the last 20 years won and played not overall NORTH CAROLINA has 5 but if anybody is getting to these RINGS? you speak of Its us on way more occasions!

  • Im from NC, and I hate Duke cause they hate black ppl. Go there one day, you'll see. Thats a prejudice ass campus, if you black you BETTER be playing basketball, REAL TALK

  • @smwisdom utter bullshit.

  • At least North Carolina can TRY to win the NIT next year.

    Duke -- 2009-2010 Champs

  • @Snowgoon901 well, before the other day, UNC had won TWO titles since Duke's last, Duke can't catch up, and they got SUPER LUCKY this year. half the competition wasn't even healthy, and Duke still barely won in a down year in college basketball, while UNC dominated when they had the personel, won every game by double digits and broke I dont know how many records. UNC broke records before the season even started, with a unanimous #1 pre-season ranking. you can't compare the programs

  • @EagleDrumma All I hear is excuses. That was the past, this is now. Duke are the now the champions no matter what happened in the past, and North Carolina sucks now. Get over it.

  • @EagleDrumma unc only has one more ncaa championship than duke, and one title is from 57' basketball wasnt shit back then. and as for that #1 pre-season ranking, UNC really fucked that up. just quit your bitchin, roy cant coach for shit, unlike coach k who is so good that he coaches the US olympic team.

  • FUCK NC i spit in your face and you can't do shit

  • 2010 CHAMPS BABY. DUKE DUKE DUKE!!!!

  • @DrPoon yes and i believe that gives coach k as many rings as dean smith and roy williams combined. booya.

  • @DrPoon yes and i believe that gives coach k as many rings as dean smith and roy williams combined. booya.

  • @jasonkops but Duke has only been good with coach K, and that is why UNC has more titles, wins, tournament wins, everything, etc.

  • @EagleDrumma so what thats been 30 years. thats