@gomonekje Where in the ITTF regulations for service does it say that the ball has to "drop 16cm"? I can't see it. All I can see is: "The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then falls without touching anything before being struck."
The ball should be tossed from the open hand palm, at a height of at least 16cm. Then, it must enter from outside the table and from the bottom white line (not the sides).
The rule: First service that is not clearly legal should be deemed a let with a warning. Subsequent dubious service by same player lose the point.
As commented by others, throw heigth as well as point of impact are borderline at best (both look illegal to me, but hard to say for sure with the available video quality). Nice catch by umpire, and correctly called (assuming no previous warnings had been given to that player).
This service is legal. Compare the height of the ball with the size of the racket! It's nearly the same. A standard racket has a size of 15 to 16 cm. Also the height of the net (15,25 cm) can be used as a comparison. But for the umpire it was a bit difficult to see it because of the speed! I think I would have warned the guy, too! In real matches you don't have a slow-motion.
@prithwin Ofc u hit the ball on its way down. Doesn't matter since u threw it at least 16 CMs. I'm a sponsored PP-Player. Hitting the ball on its way down gives more spin than when it goes up.
This is defiantly legal all u have to do is make sure the ball hits the table from ur paddle then goes over the net without it touching the net and make it go into the box diagonal from u
@100isadom1 wrong moron! Look up the USATT and ITTF rules on serving. I replayed this many times. You can see that his left hand winds up just under the net on the toss. The ball at its highest point goes to just under the white tape. When his right hand comes through to hit the ball you can see that the ball is still superimposed on the first finger of his hand, and his little finger and the bottom of the paddle are below where his left hand was at its highest point. That's definitely <6 " !
@100isadom1 Also you don't have to serve crosscourt in singles... that rule is only for doubles. You seriously need to look up the ITTF rules on serving. Most countries rules substantially follow ITTF rules. USATT rules are Identical to ITTF with the exception for hardbat rackets. The USATT ruling for hardbat is way more cogent than the ITTF ruling in this matter. The ITTF hasn't really showed us all much brainpower when ruling on Rubbers and their illegality (e.g. frictionless long pips).
illegal. It was tossed barely 3 inches high only. Look at it from the point where the ball left the hand. It only looks higher because the hand went down after tossing the ball. and he's even contasting the call! The body language during serve says "gay" too. haha
@roadi1983 No it doesn't have to fall the same distance you tossed it up. It just has to go at least 16 cm, which is = 6.299 inches, beyond where your hand was when the ball left it. See USATT rules 6.2.1 through 6.2.7 (same as ITTF rules). It could go all the way up to the ceiling as long as it doesn't touch anything and is visible at all times to the opponent. You can't hit it on the way up. It must be hit on the way down. Go to USATT.org and click on the RULES menu pop down to see them.
you are wrong sir, ive already asked a high-lvl referee i know from my tabletennis club, we checked his rulebook together, it clearly stands there, tossed up, and fall down ....
@roadi1983 This is the USATT rule. 2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16 cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then falls without touching anything before being struck. 2.6.3 As the ball is falling the server shall strike it so that it touches first the court and then, after passing over or around the net assembly, touches directly the receiver's court... exactly what I said. What didn't you get?
ill transalte my german text from below now, just for you dude... :)
The Server throws the ball, without giving spin to it, almost straight up, that the ball after leaving the hand at least goes up 16cm , and then falls down without touching anything, before it gets hit.
dude, thats just out of the official rules and a 1st and 2nd league referre told me that its true ... im really sure, hes about 55 years old, and forever an referee in german TT-league...
@BloxorzWizard but let me add one thing , i think every referee has a different point of view, at least thats my experience ... here in germany, you would get a foul call for not letting it drop. maybe not 16cm, but who knows how long it fell when youre about to hit it ... very very hard to decide, but you MUST let it fall down ... theres no question about it, how long, we can argue ... but its has to fall after being tossed 16cm ;o) !!!!!!
@roadi1983 This is from the Stump the Ump section at the USATT website USATT.org The Ump is Paul Kovacs: Q: When serving, after tossing the ball vertically at least 16cm and then letting it fall, must the server let the ball fall a certain distance before striking the ball, or is it okay to strike the ball the instant the ball begins to fall from its high point?- submitted by Ralph Crisostomo. A: It's okay to strike the ball the instant the ball begins to fall from its high point.
@roadi1983 But let me add one thing lol. I agree, most refs and Umpires probably interpret the rules slightly differently, which is why there is much confusion. They hardly ever call the serves of the top players illegal, when, in fact, most of the top players serve illegally all the time lol. I will not let players get away with serving illegally when I'm serving correctly. Case in point. 3 time hardbat Champ Loc Gno hides the ball with his body constantly. I catch it, return it & scold him.
@WTFSzymon Why are you telling ME? You should be telling poorknight123 if you're going to tell anyone. He's the one asking. Besides, I obviously knew it was an illegal serve; otherwise I would not have said such a sarcastic (yet, accurate) height in the first place. Perhaps you should be more careful in your reading so that next time you decide to say something, you don't say something so ignorant again. Have a nice day!
Very ilegal. lets look at something more important. your serve. its god awful. if you like your BH serve. serve from the BH corner short and cross court. this gives you opponent a decision. does he go with the spin and give it to your FH and risk missing the table, or does he play it safe and go cross court. most players go cross. wait there with your forehand and attack. Your serve is the most important part of your game. your serve NEEDS to be spiny, deceptive, and adaptable. good luck
Very ilegal. lets look at something more important. your serve. its god awful. if you like your BH serve. serve from the BH corner short and cross court. this gives you opponent a decision. does he go with the spin and give it to your FH and risk missing the table, or does he play it safe and go cross court. most players go cross. wait there with your forehand and attack. Your serve is the most important part of your game. your serve NEEDS to be spiny, deceptive, and adaptable. good luck
Yes. very ilegal. lets look at the true travesty of this video. YOUR SERVE. its awful. no spin, long and right to him. he didnt even have to move. if you like the backhand serve. move to the backhand corner and serve it short cross court. this gives your opponent a decision. does he return it to your forehand going with the spin and risk missing the table. or does he play it cross court. most players will play it safe and go cross court. wait there with your forehand and attack. just a tip.enjoy
The ITTF rule handbook states that the ball must be thrown at least 16 cm from the hand without imparting any spin (rule 2.6.2) and must be struck above and behind the table. (rule 2.6.4) These are the international rules for all tournament play. A free copy of the handbook can be found just about anywhere on the internet. Your best bet would be to look up "The Laws of Table Tennis", which is the title of the manual.
The service may have been of legal height, but the umpire is required to warn anything that doesn't sufficiently go ABOVE the required height. Because they can't judge the exact 6 inches they have to call it if it's not clear. Also it looks like the toss started below the table which is another infraction.
@stefanarak Well yeah it is, but the discretion is nearly always any time they think it's borderline. For any service that is clearly above a warning is almost never issued. Anything that is unclear as to whether it is the correct height would require a warning for the integrity of the game.
Everyone here is right, including the umpire. It's a illegal serve. Too low toss from the hand to the paddle. The closeup shows it. Way to darn low from the hand. That's more like 1/4 of an inch toss.
Nope, like other have said. Not being critical but what is it with the "foot work" is that the happy serve dance? I have seen (and do the foot stomp) but never the pigeon toe dance serve.....
Look on youtube for some ideas how the proper way to serve. Then practice serving one style of serve about 200 to 300 times before putting it into play.
However, keep practicing and enjoy the sport and dont get discouraged.
@nadineZERO The toss has to be over 16cm from the throwing hand. The serve was obviously illegal. Also, you cannot strike the ball while it's travelling upwards or at its highest point of toss. This serve was very obviously illegal. If you cannot see why, then you should not play.
indeed that is illegal,one he brought it from below the table it must be above and seen at all times,and two he didnt throw it to its required height about 16 cm
This is an illegal sevice and the reason being is that the player serving does not throw the ball 6 inches (16 cm) from a flat palm. What the server does is he drops his hand low rather than throwing the ball the required height.
in the pro TT rules,the ball needs to toast 6 inches above onto your palm,with this sample video,my observation is,he did not toast the ball up to 6 inches,instead he did move his hand down under the ball,so this is 99.9% ILLEGAL SERVES or what we call ed CHEATER SERVES..
well probably it might not be considered leagal this time but if he tosses it just a bit more it should be legal for sure.
The palm is open,he is not hiding the ball any time and after leaving the hand the ball rises 16 cms from where it left the hand,so that should be legal as per the rules.
but then again in this particular one it might have to be tossed a bit more.
c'est completement interdit de servir de cette maniere. le reglement international dit que l'hors du service: tu dois lancer la balle verticalement et a une distance de minimum 16 cm. si t'as d'autre question sur le ping , tu m' fais signe ;=)
that serve was totally illegal, and i definitely agree ..the umpire warned the guy for the unnecessary, stupid dance move at the end of the serve....it was a dirty tactic he applied, it made his opponent felt vomiting... hahaha. hilarious serve..easy and lame...anyways...peace yah all !
It devintly illeagel you have to throgh the ball up 16 cm (in germany NRW) up by the the way this one is realy lame an you can top spin it back realy easy
you should end the table tennis
3piphone 2 days ago
Not 16Cms in the air.
twicky2 3 days ago
no it isnt legal , you have to throw the ball 16 cm up in the air
K1mnord 1 week ago
am i the only one how noticed is little gay dance after his serve
CashMoneyKillerz 1 week ago
@CashMoneyKillerz dude you are making my whole day a lot happier.
fahmip 6 days ago
that is the most illegal serve ever u just got to look at it to realize that u fools
ocbeachli 1 week ago
not even close to being legal
DeKingCurtis 2 weeks ago
does this video make sense?
Ueberlegsdir2mal 2 weeks ago
no
1969campeador 2 weeks ago
the serve also has to start above the table
ParanoidAndroid86 4 weeks ago
When you serve, you have to throw the ball at least 15 santimetres. Also you have to throw it straight up, not just to drop!
daniappledani 1 month ago
@daniappledani HO HO HO MERRY CHRISTMAS
joemomma91 1 month ago 2
he didnt even throw he ball he just fropped it lol
logan246100 1 month ago
The real question is... who cares?
Brandonjuj 1 month ago 2
I never knew that was an illegal serve. I've been doing spin serves for years...
RICEGRET 1 month ago
illegal-ball was not tossed up 6 inches
iandemagi 1 month ago
it was illegal because it was under 6 inches and his hand started under the table as he tossed it up into the air.
tylerlclements9 1 month ago
without any doubt illegal, throwing the ball up at least 16 cm is only part of it. The ball has to drop 16 cm as well. And clearly he failed at that.
gomonekje 1 month ago
@gomonekje Where in the ITTF regulations for service does it say that the ball has to "drop 16cm"? I can't see it. All I can see is: "The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then falls without touching anything before being struck."
chickenandbaconclub2 1 month ago
why would someone film you with a potato?
shydog1231 1 month ago
The ball should be tossed from the open hand palm, at a height of at least 16cm. Then, it must enter from outside the table and from the bottom white line (not the sides).
str3123 2 months ago
ilegal...
full ilegal...
heyhermanospa 2 months ago
illegal
juankelement 2 months ago
That's illegal
LEGALIZE MARlJUANA ! ! !
yaglourt 2 months ago 4
240p we meet again.....
ChargerRT0 2 months ago 2
Yes it is because the opponent who wasnt serving could not see the ball
lucadoherty 2 months ago
The rule: First service that is not clearly legal should be deemed a let with a warning. Subsequent dubious service by same player lose the point.
As commented by others, throw heigth as well as point of impact are borderline at best (both look illegal to me, but hard to say for sure with the available video quality). Nice catch by umpire, and correctly called (assuming no previous warnings had been given to that player).
keme6206 2 months ago
10cm
ilja1000000 2 months ago
it looked legal. get that out in front of you more so the ref can see it is leagal
xombeecao 2 months ago
This service is legal. Compare the height of the ball with the size of the racket! It's nearly the same. A standard racket has a size of 15 to 16 cm. Also the height of the net (15,25 cm) can be used as a comparison. But for the umpire it was a bit difficult to see it because of the speed! I think I would have warned the guy, too! In real matches you don't have a slow-motion.
Rheinungar 2 months ago
has to be 16cm ! this is not !
paddler0 2 months ago
totally illegal, no need for slowmotion replay
table5280 2 months ago
legal
orly1415e 2 months ago
The minimum height for the toss should be the length of your penis, if you are a man, or your ideal penis if you are a woman.
In that perspective, maybe this guy served legally.
cristiancj82 2 months ago 47
@cristiancj82 that'd make ma lin's penis long beyond belief.
myemptybedroom 1 month ago
illegal
Darkoriangio 2 months ago
New subject... Pudding???
Branovix 2 months ago
THAS ARE 10CM.?
2137401 2 months ago
That is legalllllll
IamJaak 2 months ago
I gotta pee
jk032994bama 2 months ago
The height is from where you toss the ball up right? So any height gained from dropping your hand down after tossing is not counted, right?
poiman99 2 months ago
of course it isn't legal everybody can see that but i wouldn't bother at that skill lvl lol
TheKarub1 3 months ago
It's illegal
tokiemami 3 months ago
its illegal alright
93Sideshow 3 months ago
to nie legalne
Fallinloovewithmusic 3 months ago
wtf... most bullshit illegal serve ever...
lccansmd 3 months ago
also you didnt hit the ball on ITS WAY DOWN..
prithwin 4 months ago 15
@prithwin Ofc u hit the ball on its way down. Doesn't matter since u threw it at least 16 CMs. I'm a sponsored PP-Player. Hitting the ball on its way down gives more spin than when it goes up.
Andrikos96 6 days ago
He didn't even throw the ball higher than the net; not even 6 inches, which is basically above the net! Dx
IHKJasonakaBladeZ 4 months ago
Its illegal. The toss was less than 6 inches.
muntecy 4 months ago
Hilarious, the A.I in Sports Champions would be destroyed by the rules alone.
It throws serves like that all the time.
gtamythmaster43 4 months ago
illegal, even my tiny asian eyes know it without the slow and zoom
Shintechken 4 months ago 4
yes its ilegal :(
rancholacurva 4 months ago
16cm nach oben werfen...nciht hand nach unten fallen lassen
Tracid85 4 months ago
illegal, hand with ball not above table surface
1316wmed 4 months ago
@roadi1983:
1. Der Ball muss auf dem Handteller ruhen.
2. Der Ball muss nahezu senkrecht hochgeworfen werden (min. 16 cm).
3. Der Ball darf erst geschlagen werden, wenn dieser den höchsten Punk überschritten hat.
Es ist also beispielsweise ok, wenn der Ball erst 1 mm runtergefallen ist...
4. Bis 21. lass ich mal weg.
Hör dem SR besser zu! ;)
Aber cool, dass du dich mit den Regeln auseinandersetzt... davon braucht es im TT mehr!
PS: bin auch SR.
ttcgelterkinden8ch 5 months ago
"Service shall start with the ball resting freely on the open palm of the server's stationary free hand.": fault!
The ball never ever reached 16 cm: fault!
Ball is falling: correct!
Ball ...
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ttcgelterkinden8ch 5 months ago
Even if it wasn't illegal, it would still suck.
robohumby15 5 months ago
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MyIns4nity 5 months ago
l o l what a fail
MyIns4nity 5 months ago
yes it is
manfast44 5 months ago
here to proof my statement .... hope you can read german :D official rules ...
Der Aufschläger wirft dann den Ball, ohne ihm
dabei einen Effet zu versetzen, nahezu senkrecht
so hoch, dass er nach Verlassen des Handtellers
der freien Hand mindestens 16 cm aufsteigt und
dann herabfällt, ohne etwas zu berühren, bevor er
geschlagen wird.
roadi1983 5 months ago
This is defiantly legal all u have to do is make sure the ball hits the table from ur paddle then goes over the net without it touching the net and make it go into the box diagonal from u
100isadom1 5 months ago
@100isadom1 wrong moron! Look up the USATT and ITTF rules on serving. I replayed this many times. You can see that his left hand winds up just under the net on the toss. The ball at its highest point goes to just under the white tape. When his right hand comes through to hit the ball you can see that the ball is still superimposed on the first finger of his hand, and his little finger and the bottom of the paddle are below where his left hand was at its highest point. That's definitely <6 " !
BloxorzWizard 5 months ago
@100isadom1 Also you don't have to serve crosscourt in singles... that rule is only for doubles. You seriously need to look up the ITTF rules on serving. Most countries rules substantially follow ITTF rules. USATT rules are Identical to ITTF with the exception for hardbat rackets. The USATT ruling for hardbat is way more cogent than the ITTF ruling in this matter. The ITTF hasn't really showed us all much brainpower when ruling on Rubbers and their illegality (e.g. frictionless long pips).
BloxorzWizard 4 months ago
ILLEGAL
pingBOCAJpong 5 months ago
Illegal
MRGINGERMONSTERMAN 5 months ago
illegal
LordZfinx 5 months ago
illegal. It was tossed barely 3 inches high only. Look at it from the point where the ball left the hand. It only looks higher because the hand went down after tossing the ball. and he's even contasting the call! The body language during serve says "gay" too. haha
sanyabloo 5 months ago
I can do this serv
Joao2pedro123 6 months ago
illegal
TheHesch7 6 months ago
it has to be tossed up, AND IT HAS TO FALL DOWN THE SAME DISTANCE, 16 cm i think .... so its illegal ...
if u dont believe me, just check the official ittf rules ;o)
roadi1983 6 months ago
@roadi1983 No it doesn't have to fall the same distance you tossed it up. It just has to go at least 16 cm, which is = 6.299 inches, beyond where your hand was when the ball left it. See USATT rules 6.2.1 through 6.2.7 (same as ITTF rules). It could go all the way up to the ceiling as long as it doesn't touch anything and is visible at all times to the opponent. You can't hit it on the way up. It must be hit on the way down. Go to USATT.org and click on the RULES menu pop down to see them.
BloxorzWizard 5 months ago
@BloxorzWizard
you are wrong sir, ive already asked a high-lvl referee i know from my tabletennis club, we checked his rulebook together, it clearly stands there, tossed up, and fall down ....
roadi1983 5 months ago
@roadi1983 This is the USATT rule. 2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16 cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then falls without touching anything before being struck. 2.6.3 As the ball is falling the server shall strike it so that it touches first the court and then, after passing over or around the net assembly, touches directly the receiver's court... exactly what I said. What didn't you get?
BloxorzWizard 4 months ago
@BloxorzWizard
ill transalte my german text from below now, just for you dude... :)
The Server throws the ball, without giving spin to it, almost straight up, that the ball after leaving the hand at least goes up 16cm , and then falls down without touching anything, before it gets hit.
dude, thats just out of the official rules and a 1st and 2nd league referre told me that its true ... im really sure, hes about 55 years old, and forever an referee in german TT-league...
roadi1983 5 months ago
@BloxorzWizard but let me add one thing , i think every referee has a different point of view, at least thats my experience ... here in germany, you would get a foul call for not letting it drop. maybe not 16cm, but who knows how long it fell when youre about to hit it ... very very hard to decide, but you MUST let it fall down ... theres no question about it, how long, we can argue ... but its has to fall after being tossed 16cm ;o) !!!!!!
roadi1983 5 months ago
@roadi1983 This is from the Stump the Ump section at the USATT website USATT.org The Ump is Paul Kovacs: Q: When serving, after tossing the ball vertically at least 16cm and then letting it fall, must the server let the ball fall a certain distance before striking the ball, or is it okay to strike the ball the instant the ball begins to fall from its high point?- submitted by Ralph Crisostomo. A: It's okay to strike the ball the instant the ball begins to fall from its high point.
BloxorzWizard 4 months ago
@roadi1983 But let me add one thing lol. I agree, most refs and Umpires probably interpret the rules slightly differently, which is why there is much confusion. They hardly ever call the serves of the top players illegal, when, in fact, most of the top players serve illegally all the time lol. I will not let players get away with serving illegally when I'm serving correctly. Case in point. 3 time hardbat Champ Loc Gno hides the ball with his body constantly. I catch it, return it & scold him.
BloxorzWizard 4 months ago
i don't know if it's legal or not.. but he is gay
ExcALibur244527 6 months ago
I've got it at 6" exactly and legal! POINT!
Yettyhunter 6 months ago
ilegal
Olividua 6 months ago
No! The ball must throw up to 16 cm! A maximum of 8 here!
JOOLA1212 7 months ago
that was more like 5 cm...
SoulWarden11 7 months ago 48
@SoulWarden11 it should be more ythan 14cm. ;/
WTFSzymon 1 month ago
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SoulWarden11 1 month ago
@WTFSzymon Why are you telling ME? You should be telling poorknight123 if you're going to tell anyone. He's the one asking. Besides, I obviously knew it was an illegal serve; otherwise I would not have said such a sarcastic (yet, accurate) height in the first place. Perhaps you should be more careful in your reading so that next time you decide to say something, you don't say something so ignorant again. Have a nice day!
SoulWarden11 1 month ago
ilegal
Tach2912 7 months ago
Thats because you can't play this serve
shuzaifa 7 months ago
I hate when people serve like that at practise, really ticks me off.
atomdragon4 7 months ago
lol thats the most grimy serve
CsAnnihilationII 7 months ago
even paralympic player can throw higher than this player, what a shame
88keyboard 7 months ago
Well... unless your wrist is 16cm across... because the width of your wrist is about how far the ball is tossed...
sehskyle 8 months ago
he is hiding the ball, so illegal.
TheSkykidof68 8 months ago
@TheSkykidof68 No, it was actually because he didn't throw the ball high enough.
mingcheng123 7 months ago
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Very ilegal. lets look at something more important. your serve. its god awful. if you like your BH serve. serve from the BH corner short and cross court. this gives you opponent a decision. does he go with the spin and give it to your FH and risk missing the table, or does he play it safe and go cross court. most players go cross. wait there with your forehand and attack. Your serve is the most important part of your game. your serve NEEDS to be spiny, deceptive, and adaptable. good luck
djibouti900 8 months ago
Very ilegal. lets look at something more important. your serve. its god awful. if you like your BH serve. serve from the BH corner short and cross court. this gives you opponent a decision. does he go with the spin and give it to your FH and risk missing the table, or does he play it safe and go cross court. most players go cross. wait there with your forehand and attack. Your serve is the most important part of your game. your serve NEEDS to be spiny, deceptive, and adaptable. good luck
djibouti900 8 months ago
Yes. very ilegal. lets look at the true travesty of this video. YOUR SERVE. its awful. no spin, long and right to him. he didnt even have to move. if you like the backhand serve. move to the backhand corner and serve it short cross court. this gives your opponent a decision. does he return it to your forehand going with the spin and risk missing the table. or does he play it cross court. most players will play it safe and go cross court. wait there with your forehand and attack. just a tip.enjoy
djibouti900 8 months ago
one of the most gay and illegal serves i have ever seen!!!
MrGoncas12 9 months ago 97
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHA
AndreeOnlineGamer8 9 months ago
LOOOOOOOOOL FKING NOOP SERVE.
DaFaiGai 9 months ago
illegal
lockwyn 9 months ago
illegal he didn't throw the ball high enough
annelaurelavagna 9 months ago
vaya pendejo saque!!!!
vindik1 9 months ago
you need to throw it higher and with straight open hands..
Emothis007 10 months ago
illegal!
JMEsLittleBro 10 months ago
The ITTF rule handbook states that the ball must be thrown at least 16 cm from the hand without imparting any spin (rule 2.6.2) and must be struck above and behind the table. (rule 2.6.4) These are the international rules for all tournament play. A free copy of the handbook can be found just about anywhere on the internet. Your best bet would be to look up "The Laws of Table Tennis", which is the title of the manual.
oslo99 10 months ago
Have to throw at least 16 Cm's High then hit, So Many nubs do it to me when i play them
ichigokun12 10 months ago
mada mada dane
chadthaeclipse 11 months ago
stupid serveee!
GaNdDy25 11 months ago
Just loop the ball more!
vasu5235 11 months ago
Really? Do you have to throw it up?
I've been doing it like this (except with my right forehand) forever!
98nfsmw98 1 year ago
@98nfsmw98 yeah it has to be at least 6 inches.
holrin29 1 year ago
legal, i play for MK and its legal,
smurfymurph123 1 year ago
Yep, totally illegal. 6" up from an open hand.
NightcruiserMA 1 year ago
Completely illegal
TheMroreo95 1 year ago
look than to me
tgk789123 1 year ago
The service may have been of legal height, but the umpire is required to warn anything that doesn't sufficiently go ABOVE the required height. Because they can't judge the exact 6 inches they have to call it if it's not clear. Also it looks like the toss started below the table which is another infraction.
LookB3hindU 1 year ago
@LookB3hindU Actually they are not required to, it's discretionary.
stefanarak 8 months ago
@stefanarak Well yeah it is, but the discretion is nearly always any time they think it's borderline. For any service that is clearly above a warning is almost never issued. Anything that is unclear as to whether it is the correct height would require a warning for the integrity of the game.
LookB3hindU 8 months ago
illegal u can serve with with ur friendz but its illegal should be 6 inches above ur hand
danilozverka 1 year ago
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Illegal. serves should thrown 6inches above the air.
jasperspinner 1 year ago
Illegal. serves should thrown 6inches above the air.
jasperspinner 1 year ago
I think this is illegal, but my friend in school serving like this and he thinks this is legal ;// Stupid xD
Canada717 1 year ago
illegal
johann766 1 year ago
what else? illiegal...
ytchiening 1 year ago
Yes it is illegal you have to have the ball in the palm of your hand and throw the ball 10cm into the air then strike the ball!
TTStar2K7 1 year ago
@TTStar2K7 15 cm not 10 a minimum of 6 inches.
LookB3hindU 1 year ago
i would be happy if my opponent serves like that !
DiaboloJuggler 1 year ago
i l e g a l xD
demonxsd 1 year ago
Everyone here is right, including the umpire. It's a illegal serve. Too low toss from the hand to the paddle. The closeup shows it. Way to darn low from the hand. That's more like 1/4 of an inch toss.
if7084 1 year ago
well if u just gonna play just for fun then it's legal. if tournament i think it's illegal tho.
champiko62 1 year ago
Suicide.
Re1Mu2R3 1 year ago
ilegal :)
kioka2 1 year ago
there was no height in the serve, it was toss into the paddle height
aznelf13 1 year ago
I would say illegal. To me it is approximately 10cm-12cm then striked.
mrcrazygeek 1 year ago
it is illegal because he is not throwing the ball over 16cm
Rooftops666 1 year ago
Well, let's ask Ma Lin... (laughing).
Compantino 1 year ago
Nope not legal.
PreppyPoser1 1 year ago
Nope, like other have said. Not being critical but what is it with the "foot work" is that the happy serve dance? I have seen (and do the foot stomp) but never the pigeon toe dance serve.....
Look on youtube for some ideas how the proper way to serve. Then practice serving one style of serve about 200 to 300 times before putting it into play.
However, keep practicing and enjoy the sport and dont get discouraged.
RJTX 1 year ago
haahaha noob server XP
guitarniko 1 year ago
is cool and legal
AljoschaW1993 1 year ago
why illegal? the toss is only short.. but its ok.
nadineZERO 1 year ago
@nadineZERO The toss has to be over 16cm from the throwing hand. The serve was obviously illegal. Also, you cannot strike the ball while it's travelling upwards or at its highest point of toss. This serve was very obviously illegal. If you cannot see why, then you should not play.
randompop101 1 year ago
noob serve... and there was hardly any toss...
LehmannDaHero 1 year ago
illegal!!!
Hoeni 1 year ago
indeed that is illegal,one he brought it from below the table it must be above and seen at all times,and two he didnt throw it to its required height about 16 cm
ediie47 1 year ago
Not legal!
Borowski85 1 year ago
1. hold the ball is on the palm (!) of the hand
2. throw it straight upwards - minimum 16cm
3. hit the ball while it's falling (!!!)
The shown serve is not legal!
flatulenzio 1 year ago
that dood is gay ass fuck look at his body language
lolol801 1 year ago
This is an illegal sevice and the reason being is that the player serving does not throw the ball 6 inches (16 cm) from a flat palm. What the server does is he drops his hand low rather than throwing the ball the required height.
vcgwan71 1 year ago
not legall!!!
Apfelkuh200 1 year ago
Not legal, the ball didn´t reach the established high
manikboy 1 year ago
legal, but cheep. I see why the ref called it.
EdMajinLee199999 1 year ago
well the refere is right he must throw the ball higher
milotist 1 year ago
nope. gotta toss it up a lil higher sir
thekidofpt1 1 year ago
in the pro TT rules,the ball needs to toast 6 inches above onto your palm,with this sample video,my observation is,he did not toast the ball up to 6 inches,instead he did move his hand down under the ball,so this is 99.9% ILLEGAL SERVES or what we call ed CHEATER SERVES..
ilocano75 1 year ago
Table Tennis players can tell that guy in blue shirt needs more training.
Its not legal!
iIiIiIiTub3 1 year ago
illegal
ZeroRoy 1 year ago
Wow what a great serve!!!
It is totally legal.
You can measure the gap using the ball as a guide. It is 16cm just.
Also there is no question that the ball is on the way down.
The umpire is just a jerk who is bored....
Can I get in contact with that guy so I can pay him to teach me to serve?
risingnovas 1 year ago
@risingnovas haha
TableTennisDaily 1 year ago
illegal ...totally
MrRothhaendle 1 year ago
illegal
Todeskandidat 1 year ago
well probably it might not be considered leagal this time but if he tosses it just a bit more it should be legal for sure.
The palm is open,he is not hiding the ball any time and after leaving the hand the ball rises 16 cms from where it left the hand,so that should be legal as per the rules.
but then again in this particular one it might have to be tossed a bit more.
rahulsharmaforyou 2 years ago
illlegal...
ahzheyz 2 years ago
Of course it's illegal. It has to be up in the air for at least 6 inches
tiandaye 2 years ago
salut,
c'est completement interdit de servir de cette maniere. le reglement international dit que l'hors du service: tu dois lancer la balle verticalement et a une distance de minimum 16 cm. si t'as d'autre question sur le ping , tu m' fais signe ;=)
celquin77 2 years ago
that serve was totally illegal, and i definitely agree ..the umpire warned the guy for the unnecessary, stupid dance move at the end of the serve....it was a dirty tactic he applied, it made his opponent felt vomiting... hahaha. hilarious serve..easy and lame...anyways...peace yah all !
PrinceArt77 2 years ago
no that is never a legal serve !!! der ball muss höher geworfen werden
ttcOsterhagen 2 years ago
Wow...6 inchs dawg!! That was damn harsh man...lmao!!
Thepingpongplaya 2 years ago
It devintly illeagel you have to throgh the ball up 16 cm (in germany NRW) up by the the way this one is realy lame an you can top spin it back realy easy
Monyshaker 2 years ago
i call this the fag serve...look at what the guy does after he is finished serving lmao :p
stevema2 2 years ago 2
very illegal
ghoste696 2 years ago
amateurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ge trek daar gewoon ne side-spin of power top-spin op. en hij kan gaan ballen rapen
TheNathrahier 2 years ago
welke klasse speel je en welke team?
kom je naar enjoy en deploy?
nuijnpwnsxD 2 years ago
it was on its way up and not down, the rule is you can only hit it on its way down after rising 16 cm, which it alson failed to do
JakeT35 2 years ago
no
the ball have to be elevated a minimum of 15 cm
Mardreu 2 years ago
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xXXxB3nnYxXXx 2 years ago
ilegal ilegal ilegal
theKINGroby1 2 years ago 5
low
Aman12399 2 years ago
LEGAL
PingPongCho 2 years ago
it illegal because he trows it underneath the table
mcenson2001 2 years ago