I've been a Leeds Fan since 1969, and I only just heard about this today ! So I am as fucking outraged about it now as people must have been at the time ! OUCH !
a regular goal. Why don0t we talk about the off-side goal of Kuyt in 2007 and of this nullified goal of Shevchenko in ISTANBUL. wHY ARE INJUSTICES ONLY ON ENGLISH SIDE. IT SOUNDS RATHER STRANGE DON'T YOU AGREE????
Why don'0t we talk about the goal nullified to Shevchenko??? With thatgoal we would have won 4-0 and Liverpooll would be still waiting with anxiety for the second half or the interval to come.In practice like Chievo on LAST SUNDAY EVENING.LiVERPOOL ON 25TH mAY 2005 WAS no so better after first half than Chievo last sunday. Chievo was only more unfortunate in not finding a linesman to be wrong with goals of Milan as instead Liverpool was lucky in finding a foolish spanish linesman who nullified
We came back the following year and we in practice made a gift with an own goal to Magdeburg, but we respected the rule that the winner doesn't repeat itself in the same victory in the same competition; Where was Leeds in the Cup of winner's cup of 1974??????
The same fact we deserved this victory is that the following year we came back to final;we lost it's true; but is doesn't to me that Leeds was anywhere in that final
ok let's say so; on the base of your foolish and shitty principle, let's overthrow all the finals opf european cups including the ones won by the english teams so I want to see if you are so coherent
What you don't accept is that our way of winning is something you tried to practise but you didn'0t manage to learn; I mean catenaccio; we won with catenaccio, something very ugly that neither Rivera shared and was liked only by Rocco, but we won with an italian device and an italian way of doing football; in fact 38 years therafter you won at S. Siro with Tottenham 1-0 after practsing catenaccio as uit happened on the evening of Salonicco or Thessaloniki call it as you want. Corrupt
referees is something you invented because you cannot gobble up this defeat; why didn't you have the balls to make th sdame petition against the Bayern of 1975; I tell it you soon. The germans would still be laughing better dying of laughters on such bullshits'. Or they would have closed your team and players and society leaders inside the society and would have burnt you like the witches; al the bavarians would have reached you at leeds to glow you alive like a roast
We should no be stripped of anything. We won it and we took it as deserved. And you english should stop to weep after every defeat like the kid who loses the ball against the ones who are bullying him and runs to mum " we we Mum they stole my ball" like small girls. You loist and silence Dumbness and resignation.
@Faber9722 I am not a Leeds fan, I just like to see matches refereed in a fair and unbiased way. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of football is able to judge that some of the decisions made against Leeds are utterly appalling. The fact that most of the Greeks in the stadium cheered Leeds at the end and not A.C Milan just goes to show that it is not just English fans who saw the result of this as a complete disgrace.
Accept the stonewall fact that the referee was bribed in Milan's favour.
what did the Greek win to understand of footballs or whatever else; if there had not been a German (The mythical Otto Rehhagel) to teach them how to play football, everybody would have carried on to highside them in football too and the victory in 2004 didn't change so much in their credits.So if the Greek fans are a proof of seomthing I afford myself to feed doubts I am sorry. The fact is that italian catenaccio won and that you didn't accept that the style of winning after italian
fashion way of doiung football so in order to dominate in these years you have "married" this way of playing with Tottenham at S.Siro last season in Champions and through the years the catenaccio to win because it was more comfortable and despite that who won last year? It doesn't seem to me it was an english team.Please it's you that must accept that we had only persdonality ti win . Greek fans are not a serious proof and the present crisis is proving that
@Faber9722 If you can honestly 100% say with total certainty that the match was refereed in a fair and unbiased way, then I'M afraid you would represent a very small minority of people. As I have said, I am not in any way a Leeds fan. I support N.Forest and we were cheated out of the 1984 UEFA Cup Semi against Anderlecht by a referee that was clearly bribed.
I have great respect for A.C Milan and their achievments over the years. I just feel that this victory is somewhat tarnished.
if you want to say everything about that match, you must recognize that after some saves of our goalkeeper , the players of Leeds became rather nervous with elapsing of time and our goalkeeper had to be ssaved by two defender who covered him the way to Vecchi otherwise our extreme defender would have been given a thrash by the player who weanted to score, or better Vecchi received only one kick or tow otherwise they would ahve become four or five or seven kicks on the face. Hunter I
I can recognize you that we did stonewall but in the sense that we didn'0t create a beautiful page of football with our style of doing soccer, but everyone goes onto the pitch to win; maybe it was not anymore the Milan who made rags with Ajax in 1969 with 4-1 or Estudiantes 3-0 and maybe they chose a less elegant play-style but apart from elegance which lacks and rudeness from both sides (but no one of your countrymen admitted it in this forum), we had our occasions too and might have closed
also this game before so if we had won 3-0 in the first half we would not have stolen anything in opposition to all the rubbuish I met on this forum.The first serious statements of sport came out from your mouth when you have just said respect for the achievements of Milan. Berlusconi is maybe powerful but when we saved the qualification in 1994 to reach the final of Vienna vs Ajax (lost because mainly the absence of Savicevic) we scored 3-0 against Salzburg, but a Rumenian referee nullified
two goals of Milan otherwise we would have crushed 3-0 casino salzburg who had made suffer Ajax too. Whereas they invented the bubble of Conrad who fainted fictitiously more tham Dida in Glasgow and so we had our 3-0 kept in Milan but without points when we needed points and Berlusconi who was in difficulties with his first Governemnt could do nothing to help the team against the referees so as you can see the powerlessness of Berlusconi oj our days can you explain me how we bought this game?
I heard about the story of Anderlecht and I am sorry for your team but ANderlecht had its weight and the referees I have learnt through watching some games directly at stadium are like the turncoats; when they see money or money , the game running in a certain direction they follow the wind and forgive everything to the team in advantage. But coming back to this final,m if we reasoned madly like Corbett everything should be indiscussion also your cups in 1978 and 1979. we must leave the results
as they are. There wouldn't be anymore certainties about football if all the results were overthrown only because a European member of Parliament wakes up suddenly deciding to change everything; they are used so because the policy allows them to do it.But sportsmen although suffering for injustice to their teams should never allow to seed this hatred.They sent you in the colonies to die and do you still listen to them? Now they use this finaL or another one and spread hatred among fans
The only tarnish on this victory and here lies the confusion of your british ideas, it's what I said to you; you would like to see a game clear open spectacular. When there is catenaccio the fouls are more likely, but you english at first refuse and turn down this kind of game of the italians who always fall down at minimal touch and now you marry this mentality of maiden or ladies on the pitch. So the referee diorected at very english way without paying attention to the numerous people falling
and so who lost complains that the fouls were not whisteled, the same the italians do when they lose AH BUT WE LOST BECAUSE OF THAT MISSING PENALTY, etc. the field etc." in Italian we say also my father if he had had three balls might have been like the game of flipper. With ifs and buts story was never done and the fans of Leeds will accept it. The game was ugly? I can agree, the style of playing and winning was not the courageous one like Germany-England2010 , catenaccio provokes many fouls
and situation that deserve a batter analysis from the point of view of fair play I agree about that too; BUT NO MATCH IS PERFECT; THERE WILL BE ALWAYS MISTAKES AND FANS WHO WILL WEEP FROM A DESASTROUS performance of the whistles. hOWEVER football is so and seeing "behindology"[dietrologia] everywhere, the bad everwhere behind everything, it is not so worthwhile. What fans of Leeds should have done if they really loved the team, it ought to have been to sign a petition to set up again cup of
winner's cup so many more teams would have had the chance of arising in the sky of the stars of football teams. Look at galatasaray and Russians teams who arose from the namelessness; how many other teams would have turned up from the darkness if there had been the old dear Cup of Winner's Cup. We could have confirmed us with other cup of winners cups like in Champions League and barcelona too, but if Milan and Barcelona also with the left Cup of winner's cups would have nevermore put attention
iF THE GREAT TEAMS , ALSO WHEN CUP OF WINNERS CUP HAD NOT BEEN ABOLISHED AND THEY WOULD HAVE NOT PLAYED IT ANYMORE HOW MANY TEAMS WOULD HAVE COME OUT? NEW TEAMS ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE POWERS OF FOOTBALL. THIS HAD TO BE DONE BY LEEDS FANS AND NOT THIS SHABBY VENGEANCE AFTER ALMOST 40 YEARS THIS HAD TO BE DONE BY THE ENGLISH FANS AND NOT ONLY; ORGANIZE MORE AND MORE CUPS AGAIN IN ORDER TO GIVE TO EVERY TEAM THE CHANCE TO ARISE FOR THE FIRST TIME OR AGAIN.
NOW ON TV WE ARE SUBMERGED BY THE FOOTBALL [because blockbusters often fail whereas good movies are not broadcast] BUT THE QUALITY ON THE PITCH DIDN'T HEIGHTEN ITSELF and because only a football of elite rules! This as a fan of Milan I can recognize it. I can assure you in 1994,Berlusconi's money didn't help it's impossible it might have helped in 1973 where we played a fashion of football disgusting to you but effective that was our crime in that Greek evening not offering a show not buying
Hunter was surely a loyal player but also a rude one (nothing evil in football) however even a blind man would see that He pushed Rivera down strongly only because our captain durst wrench him the ball; it was a normal game to wrench away the ball from a player of the opposite team; instead of being blindly nationalistic buy a new pair of glasses. What should Rivera have done? Let that he arrived inside the net with the ball?Don't say bullshits.
The old Greek people remember the game well & call the ref a cheat. The Greek FA banned him for life after the game. AC Milan, Juventus & Real Madrid have cheated their way to the top. Their reputations are built on bribery & deceit.
@Englandloyal1966 Firstly that's not cheating. It might not exactly be sporting but it got the job done and Leeds hardly went unpunished by it. Secondly, the reason for the unrest isn't the fact that Leeds players were being kicked around, it was more the fact that the referee was doing nothing about it and clearly showing bias towards AC Milan. There's a million and one instances of AC Milan bribing officials and match fixing, the ref was later banned for accepting bribes. It speaks for itself
As you remember the images of the matches you want, I can remind you that after taking the ball your players , kikcked Vecchi, our goalkeeper, because they could not accept that the adversary goalkeeper had done a fine sport action and Hunter, that surely was a loyal but rude player too, indeed pushed Rivera from the back and you English, that always boast of being gentlemen, usually don't commit such acts or am I wrong. The arm wasd tied to the body so the penalties were your
ideas: About bribing referees you must find both clues and proofs. Because it's only you english to say that and about your final of 1966 there is much to say including such posts that were fairly revenged last year so when the goal was real you didn'0t get it and in every case Germany deserved winni8ng because on the pitch you offered them the prairies; playing open is well but you offered Far west and you were too slow; you engaged a trainer that won the scudetto also on moon
How the hell did AC Milan have the acorns to celebrate such a disgraceful win? If a ref fixed a game like that in my favor I wouldn't even accept the trophy I'd be so disgusted.
So the "evidence" is a ball hitting someone's hand in the box, a Milan player falling down near a Leeds one in the box and one dirty tackle that went un-punished...
If it indeed was fixed then the result should be overturned, but this is hardly proof.
Not to mention, just because the FA refuse to investigate corruption in the UK doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Google "bungs" and "clough" and you'll be surprised by what you find.
POT KETTLE BLACK. Google "Don Revie" and "Bribery" and see how many results. The great clough said if leeds won anything it was due to cheating. What did Clough know?
revie was accussed of it once and we didnt even win the game!!
this game was to win division 1 and was played only two days after our triumph in the fa cup final. the fa and uefa has a history of fucking over leeds FACT
I honestly doubt Cloughie had any real hard evidence, he just hated Leeds and smacked on them every chance he got. His biggest issue with them was their perchant for dirty play and the constant bitching to the referees. As far as he was concerned, THAT was how they cheated.
and by the way....im half italian and italy got a long and bad history of cheating,inter in 65 v liverpool,1982 juve scandal 2006 and so on and on and on.....a nation of CHEATS!!
The better part of you is italian..:)but the fact that you are italian don'authorize you to make vaguely racist statements..so i'll say that as your nick reveals the Swiss are a people of bankers , so robbers..just to say something stupid...(it's my turn after a jam session of crap by your part)
Ah ah ah..return in your cuckoo clock:)I'm over it..i'm fan of AC MILAN..i've seen more victories and good players than you..it's only i don't like being called cheat..cheat for what?for coming second?Is funny...
You must have been 1 of the massive 12'000 milan supporters in istanbul or the massive 16'000 in athens great support for a european cup final
Once you got a season ticket for 33years been to 6european cup finals 2UEFA cup finals 3super cup finals 1intercontinental final in tokyo 6fa cup finals(coppa italia) and 100's of league games....then please come back to me!
And by the way,have you cleaned that shithole "san siro"?Worst and dirtyest ground i been to in the last 15years!BY CHEATING FRIEND
Why don't you came and clean San Siro?Have you ever won there?Get here and we'll play again "Oh when the Reds go marchin'in..." destroying you and your team as we did with MU,Real, and other better team than yours..oh ..and pray your team get saved this year by that fucking cheating italian..what's the name?Aquilani...or Chelsea of that other fucking cheating coach Ancelotti will leave you 50 points behind.
put it that way my friend,we never played ac in san siro...so how can we win?
played the grande inter there last year and beat them...so yes we won in san siro....!!
Aquilani played today...15minutes in mickey mouse cup and as for ancelotti....wait until the russian boss is fed up with him...ciao ciao ancelotti.....you keep on watching milan....err on tv.......
We'll see at the end of the season who's right , my AC Milan this year is not a good team, i must admit..but let's wait and see..oh and my compliments for that good steak you ate in Firenze few weeks ago..i hate Fiorentina but that evening you were ...mmm destroyed.
And pray the italian side of you gets the upper hand..you are talkin' nonsense..maybe the air doesn't get to your brain in that mountains...Ciao pirlone semisvizzero.
I was referring to your supposed country but you didn't get the joke..by the way even on drugs i have better judgement than you !You dinosaur of the Grobbelaar era...
don't be naive my friend. Shakespeare wrote "Treason doth not prosper. If it doth prosper no one dare call it treason". At least the Italian FA has the balls to penalise those who attempt corruption. Corruption is rife in the UK. Brown paper bags, match fixing, far east syndicates, the big four cartel, dodgy agents etc etc. FA is just a toothless entity.
Certainly Leeds was one of the top team in the FA and i like the way many players played (Bremner was a great) but in the end it's the same thing we experienced with FC Juventus in Itlay in the 90's , they were dirty, with many nice players but in the end they bribed ref. and judges so even if they were on top they cheated..indeed in the early 70's you suffered from an Italian Syndrome..everywhere we met each other we beat you..so maybe it's not the ref. fault.
well on this day, the referee was bribed and italian teams beat us everywhere, you must be forgetting Juventus fairs cup, ac milan at elland road and a few more like lazio and roma but on this day the ref was found to have taken bribes. he even arrived on the ac milan plane.
christos michas never reffed a european game again anfd i hope he and beckenbauer suffer greatly in life and death
Oh and yes i'm italian...but i know of the way Leeds played in the early 70's ...Don Revie and his dirty dirty game...the way i see the football my sympathy certainly doesn't go to people who bribed referees, created dossiers and played dirty.
If you can find a proof that the final was cheated as your MP (sorry don't remember the name)says you can take back the cup..i personally will take it to Leeds..but you don't know that just 2 days after that final Ac Milan was robbed by Juve in one of the worst cases of cheating by FC Juventus, of the italian Championship title..AC Milan in that years counted nil (in political powers and "bribing" as you say)The team who cheated and drugged their players were Inter and Juventus.
Can you tell me that a team with people like Gullit, Van Basten , Rijkaard, Franco Baresi, Paolo Maldini cheated to win?Do you have thi courage?Can you tell me why the same team with Seedorf,Kaka', Shevchenko, Inzaghi cheated to win in Europe destroying teams like Bayern Monaco, M.U. and Liverpool?Or it's more easy to say that AC Milan was only a victim .Why don't talk of Marseille vs Ac Milan 1993?
The only time ac milan "destroyed" liverpool was for 45 minutes(i was there) in istanbul,full stop and still ended up loosing.....and you cant say ac destroyed us in athens(i was there too) with a "lucky" 2-1 win after shithouses UEFA let yous in the back door to play in champions league!!
so in other words,cheats like ac milan should NOT have been in the competition that season!!
You were there so you remember the miracles of Dudek?The penalty gift?The action of the second goal subsequent to a fragrant foul?The second final (Athens) there was no match..Milan controlled the game to the end.
Uefa ddn't let us in the "Back door" , ah ah ah..you better get informed,because there was a "fake" process against us, and the judges didn't found better than charge us with 30 points and we qualified for CL the same.Uefa followed issue and then complimented us for the Fair Play..something you better remember , in many cases you don't know how to write it (i don't take lessons from a Liverpool fan, remember Heysel) .
Let me explain who was the guy who revoked the 2 titles to FC Juventus, Mr.Guido Rossi (counsellor of FC Inter...i said all), so i can agree with you on one point.The italian Calcio is now clean, but the place who was of FC Juventus in bribing and cheating now is taken by FC Internazionale, AC Milan is only a spectator in all this, and when it had good players demonstrated who was the stronger (in italian football) on the European Field.
For those who talk about the "Calciopoli" involving Milan, let me say you a thing...Milan was "charged" for an alleged draw with Chievo , in which the Rossoneri scored two goals but were annulled for 2 offsides non-existant.
Some of you are talking nonsense.You talk of AC Milan who "cheated" this game without bein'able to add a proof.I can tell you the same thing for Milan vs Liverpool 2005 , but what's the use of this?The Liverpool won and that's all.The ref . banned it's not a proof , many stupid referees were banned for being inept .We can talk of the ref, Byron Moreno in Korea - Italy of the WC 2002 for instance.
its ashame, if leeds had of applied for this match ten years later, leeds would have a UEFA cup honour under there name, but they were too late, they should have, and should have a championsleague, outplayed basicly the whole west germany side.. and this referee actually flew over with AC milan team in their plane .. lmao. how bad is that. ohwell, everyone knows the truth though, its why not many people like Italian football, its why Italian football is dead today.
Leeds were diddled out of this and the 75 European Cup final. Then there's Nottingham Forest getting swindled in the UEFA Cup semi in '84, and same year Aberdeen were cheated by Porto. UEFA didn't want to know, too much trouble to investigate, easier to do nowt
People keep mentioning Hurst and 66 - listen people (Italians) there is a difference between a referee getting decisions wrong (Hurst 66) and a referee taking a bribe!! (Leeds Vs Milan)....I can take bad decisions, genuine mistakes - but I can't take political favors or bribes, which is what THIS match resembles...
Well I haven't seen the game but considering the fact,Greece was under dictatorship from 67 to 74 and the government pulled some strings to place a greek team to the final of the european chanpionship(panathinaikos),it's not hard to assume they had at some point to return the favor,So they put that referee in that game.
And just for history:There's ONLY one Greek team ever been caught bribing referees both in domestic and european competitions.And guess which that team is...Panathinaikos.
ridiculous! Panathinaikos didn't cheat to get into that final. And if any Greek team is cheating their way to title success there is only one obvious answer (Olympiakos). Not that I am saying they are, because I don't think they are. Just thought that IF there was to be a cheater, you'd think they'd actually pull off the win right?
The dirtiest referee of all times in Greece... he has done real crimes... he should be sent to prison... Mihas. A man of the Greek dictatorship. A man who sent 3 Aris footballers into prison
The Greek football is the most corrupt in the world. Olympiacos is always helped by the referees, there was a big scandal about Olympiacos' president Socrates Kokkalis who had bribed the whole referees ascociation and even the Greek League!!! I'll post a video response to see what I mean. The Greek referees were always dirty and still are.
so you want the cup back? start to give back the ONLY world cup 1966 you won with a ghost goal! Recent digitally-enhanced footage is said to clearly illustrate that Geoff Hurst's second goal did not cross the line! stop cry sad english people!
lo sappiamo tutti che il Milan è la squadra più CORROTTO del Mondo, oggi si parla di Inter-Juve perche le reti di Berlusconi bombardano mediaticamente.
Ma prima di lui perchè il Milan è andato 2 volte in Serie B e nel 2006 con calciopoli invece hanno addirittura vinto la Coppa dell'Indulto?
VERGOGNA AC MILAN.
la vera mafia del calcio ma che opera all'oscuro di tutto e appaiono come i MERAVIGLIOSI...
Vedi, BBilanista, quella partita è famosa anche se ne è parlato poco negli anni in Italia. Ma in Inghilterra è sempre rimasta un esempio di scandalo. E adesso finalmente è stato fatto un esposto all'UEFA. Dai che se v'impegnate anche quest'anno riuscite a restare fuori dalla Champion's League, BBilanisti di merda.
anyway, i'll get onto the real reason i visited this page - to view a video and not have obnoxious and objective points of view thrust left right and centre - i'm a manchester born pure through and through Leeds Utd hater. I despise everything Leeds. But, as i said, i don't think anyone could say Leeds didn't deserve to win this.
YOU do your homework and try to be a bit rational by looking back at Red Devils' games in last 2 years : just remind the way Utd got to 2008 Cl final ( by playing an awful, boring catenaccio in Rome & Barcellona defending their area for 90 mins even with Rooney as defending his box area right side ) !!
If a team plays defensive football they just do it, no matter what country they're from.
But this is an elementary truth that the English won't ever get .
it seems you spend your time on youtube just waiting for people to disagree with you, so you can thrust your opinions everywhere. i admire a man with passion, but when it is a devotion to self important belittling of others, xenophobia and borderline racism, its just quite sad.
oh - and i didn't want to mention the 'r' word earlier, but having looked at the previous 11 pages of comments i think i can safely, without any risk of slander, declare you a sad, twisted, self important, blinkered, naive, immature racist.
it's people like you we could do without on this site.
That's what I say each time I hear the English biasing about football, since they historically know so little of the game they invented a long time ago .....
cos The English dont bribe like u European twats! always cheating. look at Juventus and other Italian teams not long ago relegated and deducted point.... your teams are a con!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And just look at your ridiculous comments on here : they're so typical when they accomplish the very british habit of blaming the ref. for any defeat & of complaining for years as crying babies .
Great Britain ? A corrupt nation made of double-faced hypocrite cheaters & liars whose 2 only abilities are respectively : spelling out pathetic one-way lies and getting drunk :-) !
chickzidane your comment is a typical british one , so bizarre , one lined and ridiculous as for the content ....!
The most corrupted football ever ? Actual premiership that since years keep on getting all the laundried money form worldwide mafias & corrupted criminals and keep on covering up the hundreds of various scandal the pathetic english football has been producing .
English football is run by the mafia since years, Italian football of course is not because there's not big merchandise around the teams in there and worldwide mafias are interested in making money , just recognize that and stick to YOUR own corruption with your technically poor premiership .
Who created the betting over fixed matches ?
The corrupt shity english football !
Which country are from majority of players betting on their matches ?
If you watch to some serie A matches instead, you may see f.i. a Juventus-Milan
4-2 spectacular match with top level football with no dumb players who fight on the pitch as primitive savages like it happens on shitty premiership , or the worst team Chievo Verona struggling vs. Inter on the road and losing 4-2 playing amazing tech/tactic. football , which is something inferior premiership will may only dream on !
u jealous cunt the premiership is the best league in the world and seria a is a bag of shit now. our shitty teams like man city can by kaka n whoever they want so shut up u utter cunt. n y is the english teams dominating the CL, cuz of money? true but when italy was dominating it was cuz of money aswell u biased piece of shit.and dont start saying shit like typical british comment cus its football at the end of the day and i love football but cunts like u wreck it with ur jealous shitty comments
I can't be jealous of the premiership, a low level league as for technic & tactics , since I look at serie A that is the most difficult and competitive league of the world .
The PL is big money ( it won't stay that for long 'cos the clubs are in total bankrupcy for hundreds millions of € ) , but out of that is a bad, so poor scum bag
so inferior to serie A. Just look at Kakà and what he replied to ridiculous Manchester City & to bad english league .
( just check what same Beckham, along with tens of other players joining both leagues , said about the differences he found ) .
YOU think about ur funny,bizarre nonsenses brtit style : premiership football is poor as for overall technic & tactics and , out of 3 major teams copying Italy's team way of playing , it's played by shitty teams performing awful,boring games.
And that's holy truth, no matter what your fucking barbarian brain dreams on .
When Chelsea or Live or 1-0 Manchester Utd play their bad games, everybody's falls asleep .
Not a casualty that the most boring and ugliest Champions league have been played by Chelsea & Liverpool, not mentioning the Utd " Lionhearts " who had annoeyd everyone with the most defensive antispectacular football in last 20 years
of Champions League to get to the final
( Barcelona semifinal ) lineing up Rooney as defender just right the box area line !...
you go on about italian technical football but anyone should have good technique at walking pace. you bored the world in germany 3 years ago. and at every world cup before that. so you can say fuck all about negative play. if english football is so bad why is it the most popular league in the world? because its the best thats why.
omg no way, a waste of time talking to you ...!! It's not a walking pace, it's a different way of playing : not my fault if you can't get that .
The Big 4 PL teams play different from all the other english teams, they implemented in their playing system the same pace " walked " in the rest of Europe . kakà is not an outclass 'cos he walks, it's exaclty the opposite , the same for Ibrahimovic : senseless long ball running means playing bad, not playing at higher speed by itself.
its a walking pace. kaka stands out in italy cos he dribbles at speed. how the fuck can you critisise english football saying we play "wrong"? we invented the game so the way we play is right.
And when you make long ball running , that's due 'cos you own low technic and even lower tactic skills .
The best proof of that is your former manager McClaren and how Ferguson made his team change their way of playing the game , taking the best from C.
Ronaldo's technic skills f. i.
Anyway u'll stay in ur op., so I'll do , but if you could chat with some coaches & players of ur Premierleague, maybe they would named the PL the best league but they'd also agree with many statements of mine .
Serie A is the most boring league, and it is full of cheating teams. I respect the ability of many players, like Kaka and Zlatan, but the Premiership has the most talent, the best support, and plays the fastest and best football.
XxKubrickFan of course everyone is entitled to his opinion , since there's something called freedom of speech , but true facts count more than personal statements : beyond any one-way totally false, bizarre & senseless clichè the most corrupt league in the world is Premiership ( just get informed checking among last years news ).
Majority of english football teams got involved into various & multiple scandals
you're wrong , mate : the best dope is from countries like US, UK,France & Spain as everybody knows so well, Italy instead is fighting seriously doping in sports since many years and we can take no lesson from those most cheating doped countries in world sport like we can take no lesson from shameless doped cheater J. Olav Koss' homecountry ( Norway for those who ignore it ) ,
& childish clichès ( which look to be what your culture skills are all about ) , but get
informed that hair gel was trendy in the
80s and it's out since at least 10 years :-)
As for most cheating divers, again you make some stupid,childish & quite false clichès in your place and Italy's masters 4 times world champions take no lesson for king of divers Gerrard's homecountry,
strong league for sure, you said well, unlucky with not doubt if you look at Inetr dominating at Manchester, weak Arsenal
superlucky passing only at shootouts and vs Roma with 7 titular players out for injury who played so much better than poor Gunners and Chelsea shooting only twice the Juventus box in Turin .
But serie A was even better till 2 years ago when Milan destroyed your premiership clubs and playing spectacular football not a shitty defensive one like Utd, liverpool & Chelsea DD !
I've been a Leeds Fan since 1969, and I only just heard about this today ! So I am as fucking outraged about it now as people must have been at the time ! OUCH !
vecuccio 5 days ago
a regular goal. Why don0t we talk about the off-side goal of Kuyt in 2007 and of this nullified goal of Shevchenko in ISTANBUL. wHY ARE INJUSTICES ONLY ON ENGLISH SIDE. IT SOUNDS RATHER STRANGE DON'T YOU AGREE????
Faber9722 2 months ago
Why don'0t we talk about the goal nullified to Shevchenko??? With thatgoal we would have won 4-0 and Liverpooll would be still waiting with anxiety for the second half or the interval to come.In practice like Chievo on LAST SUNDAY EVENING.LiVERPOOL ON 25TH mAY 2005 WAS no so better after first half than Chievo last sunday. Chievo was only more unfortunate in not finding a linesman to be wrong with goals of Milan as instead Liverpool was lucky in finding a foolish spanish linesman who nullified
Faber9722 2 months ago
We came back the following year and we in practice made a gift with an own goal to Magdeburg, but we respected the rule that the winner doesn't repeat itself in the same victory in the same competition; Where was Leeds in the Cup of winner's cup of 1974??????
Faber9722 2 months ago
The same fact we deserved this victory is that the following year we came back to final;we lost it's true; but is doesn't to me that Leeds was anywhere in that final
Faber9722 2 months ago
ok let's say so; on the base of your foolish and shitty principle, let's overthrow all the finals opf european cups including the ones won by the english teams so I want to see if you are so coherent
Faber9722 2 months ago
A.C Milan should be officially stripped from the history books that they ever won this trophy. Absolutely despicable!
Blizdegs 5 months ago
@Blizdegs
What you don't accept is that our way of winning is something you tried to practise but you didn'0t manage to learn; I mean catenaccio; we won with catenaccio, something very ugly that neither Rivera shared and was liked only by Rocco, but we won with an italian device and an italian way of doing football; in fact 38 years therafter you won at S. Siro with Tottenham 1-0 after practsing catenaccio as uit happened on the evening of Salonicco or Thessaloniki call it as you want. Corrupt
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Blizdegs
referees is something you invented because you cannot gobble up this defeat; why didn't you have the balls to make th sdame petition against the Bayern of 1975; I tell it you soon. The germans would still be laughing better dying of laughters on such bullshits'. Or they would have closed your team and players and society leaders inside the society and would have burnt you like the witches; al the bavarians would have reached you at leeds to glow you alive like a roast
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Blizdegs
We should no be stripped of anything. We won it and we took it as deserved. And you english should stop to weep after every defeat like the kid who loses the ball against the ones who are bullying him and runs to mum " we we Mum they stole my ball" like small girls. You loist and silence Dumbness and resignation.
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Faber9722 I am not a Leeds fan, I just like to see matches refereed in a fair and unbiased way. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of football is able to judge that some of the decisions made against Leeds are utterly appalling. The fact that most of the Greeks in the stadium cheered Leeds at the end and not A.C Milan just goes to show that it is not just English fans who saw the result of this as a complete disgrace.
Accept the stonewall fact that the referee was bribed in Milan's favour.
Blizdegs 2 months ago
@Blizdegs
what did the Greek win to understand of footballs or whatever else; if there had not been a German (The mythical Otto Rehhagel) to teach them how to play football, everybody would have carried on to highside them in football too and the victory in 2004 didn't change so much in their credits.So if the Greek fans are a proof of seomthing I afford myself to feed doubts I am sorry. The fact is that italian catenaccio won and that you didn't accept that the style of winning after italian
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Blizdegs
fashion way of doiung football so in order to dominate in these years you have "married" this way of playing with Tottenham at S.Siro last season in Champions and through the years the catenaccio to win because it was more comfortable and despite that who won last year? It doesn't seem to me it was an english team.Please it's you that must accept that we had only persdonality ti win . Greek fans are not a serious proof and the present crisis is proving that
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Faber9722 If you can honestly 100% say with total certainty that the match was refereed in a fair and unbiased way, then I'M afraid you would represent a very small minority of people. As I have said, I am not in any way a Leeds fan. I support N.Forest and we were cheated out of the 1984 UEFA Cup Semi against Anderlecht by a referee that was clearly bribed.
I have great respect for A.C Milan and their achievments over the years. I just feel that this victory is somewhat tarnished.
Blizdegs 2 months ago
@Blizdegs
if you want to say everything about that match, you must recognize that after some saves of our goalkeeper , the players of Leeds became rather nervous with elapsing of time and our goalkeeper had to be ssaved by two defender who covered him the way to Vecchi otherwise our extreme defender would have been given a thrash by the player who weanted to score, or better Vecchi received only one kick or tow otherwise they would ahve become four or five or seven kicks on the face. Hunter I
Faber9722 2 months ago
I can recognize you that we did stonewall but in the sense that we didn'0t create a beautiful page of football with our style of doing soccer, but everyone goes onto the pitch to win; maybe it was not anymore the Milan who made rags with Ajax in 1969 with 4-1 or Estudiantes 3-0 and maybe they chose a less elegant play-style but apart from elegance which lacks and rudeness from both sides (but no one of your countrymen admitted it in this forum), we had our occasions too and might have closed
Faber9722 2 months ago
also this game before so if we had won 3-0 in the first half we would not have stolen anything in opposition to all the rubbuish I met on this forum.The first serious statements of sport came out from your mouth when you have just said respect for the achievements of Milan. Berlusconi is maybe powerful but when we saved the qualification in 1994 to reach the final of Vienna vs Ajax (lost because mainly the absence of Savicevic) we scored 3-0 against Salzburg, but a Rumenian referee nullified
Faber9722 2 months ago
two goals of Milan otherwise we would have crushed 3-0 casino salzburg who had made suffer Ajax too. Whereas they invented the bubble of Conrad who fainted fictitiously more tham Dida in Glasgow and so we had our 3-0 kept in Milan but without points when we needed points and Berlusconi who was in difficulties with his first Governemnt could do nothing to help the team against the referees so as you can see the powerlessness of Berlusconi oj our days can you explain me how we bought this game?
Faber9722 2 months ago
I heard about the story of Anderlecht and I am sorry for your team but ANderlecht had its weight and the referees I have learnt through watching some games directly at stadium are like the turncoats; when they see money or money , the game running in a certain direction they follow the wind and forgive everything to the team in advantage. But coming back to this final,m if we reasoned madly like Corbett everything should be indiscussion also your cups in 1978 and 1979. we must leave the results
Faber9722 2 months ago
as they are. There wouldn't be anymore certainties about football if all the results were overthrown only because a European member of Parliament wakes up suddenly deciding to change everything; they are used so because the policy allows them to do it.But sportsmen although suffering for injustice to their teams should never allow to seed this hatred.They sent you in the colonies to die and do you still listen to them? Now they use this finaL or another one and spread hatred among fans
Faber9722 2 months ago
The only tarnish on this victory and here lies the confusion of your british ideas, it's what I said to you; you would like to see a game clear open spectacular. When there is catenaccio the fouls are more likely, but you english at first refuse and turn down this kind of game of the italians who always fall down at minimal touch and now you marry this mentality of maiden or ladies on the pitch. So the referee diorected at very english way without paying attention to the numerous people falling
Faber9722 2 months ago
and so who lost complains that the fouls were not whisteled, the same the italians do when they lose AH BUT WE LOST BECAUSE OF THAT MISSING PENALTY, etc. the field etc." in Italian we say also my father if he had had three balls might have been like the game of flipper. With ifs and buts story was never done and the fans of Leeds will accept it. The game was ugly? I can agree, the style of playing and winning was not the courageous one like Germany-England2010 , catenaccio provokes many fouls
Faber9722 2 months ago
and situation that deserve a batter analysis from the point of view of fair play I agree about that too; BUT NO MATCH IS PERFECT; THERE WILL BE ALWAYS MISTAKES AND FANS WHO WILL WEEP FROM A DESASTROUS performance of the whistles. hOWEVER football is so and seeing "behindology"[dietrologia] everywhere, the bad everwhere behind everything, it is not so worthwhile. What fans of Leeds should have done if they really loved the team, it ought to have been to sign a petition to set up again cup of
Faber9722 2 months ago
winner's cup so many more teams would have had the chance of arising in the sky of the stars of football teams. Look at galatasaray and Russians teams who arose from the namelessness; how many other teams would have turned up from the darkness if there had been the old dear Cup of Winner's Cup. We could have confirmed us with other cup of winners cups like in Champions League and barcelona too, but if Milan and Barcelona also with the left Cup of winner's cups would have nevermore put attention
Faber9722 2 months ago
iF THE GREAT TEAMS , ALSO WHEN CUP OF WINNERS CUP HAD NOT BEEN ABOLISHED AND THEY WOULD HAVE NOT PLAYED IT ANYMORE HOW MANY TEAMS WOULD HAVE COME OUT? NEW TEAMS ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE POWERS OF FOOTBALL. THIS HAD TO BE DONE BY LEEDS FANS AND NOT THIS SHABBY VENGEANCE AFTER ALMOST 40 YEARS THIS HAD TO BE DONE BY THE ENGLISH FANS AND NOT ONLY; ORGANIZE MORE AND MORE CUPS AGAIN IN ORDER TO GIVE TO EVERY TEAM THE CHANCE TO ARISE FOR THE FIRST TIME OR AGAIN.
Faber9722 2 months ago
NOW ON TV WE ARE SUBMERGED BY THE FOOTBALL [because blockbusters often fail whereas good movies are not broadcast] BUT THE QUALITY ON THE PITCH DIDN'T HEIGHTEN ITSELF and because only a football of elite rules! This as a fan of Milan I can recognize it. I can assure you in 1994,Berlusconi's money didn't help it's impossible it might have helped in 1973 where we played a fashion of football disgusting to you but effective that was our crime in that Greek evening not offering a show not buying
Faber9722 2 months ago
Foreign refs have forever cheated English teams.
DoctorScrumpy 5 months ago
Michas was so stupid...Greece supports Leeds United...Marching On Together...
tolisarta13 8 months ago
what AC did was very unsporting, but its not like leeds were the fairest team in that era. What goes around comes around, eh?
seanway123 1 year ago
The Milan Captain's arse fell out when Norman hunter went for him.
Smelly fucking Italian bastards.
All the greasy Mediterraneans and then a Frenchman a few years later cheating the best team that ever existed.
azzalufc 1 year ago 2
@azzalufc
Hunter was surely a loyal player but also a rude one (nothing evil in football) however even a blind man would see that He pushed Rivera down strongly only because our captain durst wrench him the ball; it was a normal game to wrench away the ball from a player of the opposite team; instead of being blindly nationalistic buy a new pair of glasses. What should Rivera have done? Let that he arrived inside the net with the ball?Don't say bullshits.
Faber9722 2 months ago
@azzalufc
What shoulòd he have done? After such a poush also a bear would have crumbled down, don't say silliness or better avoid saying bullshits please
Faber9722 2 months ago
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@azzalufc
What should he have done? After such a push also a bear would have crumbled down, don't say silliness or better avoid saying bullshits please
Faber9722 2 months ago
i no its a sad video and all idk why but i allways laugh at hunter hiting that guy
Grugby2009 1 year ago
i no its a sad video and all idk why but i allways laugh at hunter htiing that guy
Grugby2009 1 year ago
i no this is a sad video and all but idk i allways laugh when hunter hit that guy
Grugby2009 1 year ago
LEEDS IS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS IN ENGLAND WITH GREAT HISTORY!!!
from Greece
euosmos3 1 year ago
Simply speaking, that's AC Milan
welldone300 1 year ago
The old Greek people remember the game well & call the ref a cheat. The Greek FA banned him for life after the game. AC Milan, Juventus & Real Madrid have cheated their way to the top. Their reputations are built on bribery & deceit.
kamas1 1 year ago 2
@kamas1 you are so right sir
lordcornwallis2 9 months ago
Don't know what Leeds are moaning about, remember them kicking plenty of teams about in the 70's and 80's that why there called dirty Leeds
Englandloyal1966 1 year ago
@Englandloyal1966 Firstly that's not cheating. It might not exactly be sporting but it got the job done and Leeds hardly went unpunished by it. Secondly, the reason for the unrest isn't the fact that Leeds players were being kicked around, it was more the fact that the referee was doing nothing about it and clearly showing bias towards AC Milan. There's a million and one instances of AC Milan bribing officials and match fixing, the ref was later banned for accepting bribes. It speaks for itself
BillyMysterio 1 year ago
@BillyMysterio
As you remember the images of the matches you want, I can remind you that after taking the ball your players , kikcked Vecchi, our goalkeeper, because they could not accept that the adversary goalkeeper had done a fine sport action and Hunter, that surely was a loyal but rude player too, indeed pushed Rivera from the back and you English, that always boast of being gentlemen, usually don't commit such acts or am I wrong. The arm wasd tied to the body so the penalties were your
Faber9722 2 months ago
@BillyMysterio
ideas: About bribing referees you must find both clues and proofs. Because it's only you english to say that and about your final of 1966 there is much to say including such posts that were fairly revenged last year so when the goal was real you didn'0t get it and in every case Germany deserved winni8ng because on the pitch you offered them the prairies; playing open is well but you offered Far west and you were too slow; you engaged a trainer that won the scudetto also on moon
Faber9722 2 months ago
@BillyMysterio
But you haven'0t yet learnt to play football
Faber9722 2 months ago
@Englandloyal1966
Well you know 7/8ths of fuck all.
Dirty Leeds was a tag given by the London press because we dared to beat their darling London clubs.
How disgraceful of us northern upstarts eh?
pkinnit 10 months ago
L'arbitre était acheté
Une véritable honte
Leeds United was better, a true football team
Une défaite pour le football
LittleGreyDuck 1 year ago
Non ci sono commenti ad uno schifo simile....il milan è proprio aiutato in tutto in questa partita!
80funkman 1 year ago
Super LEEDS .....Mot....
Borsh12 1 year ago
How the hell did AC Milan have the acorns to celebrate such a disgraceful win? If a ref fixed a game like that in my favor I wouldn't even accept the trophy I'd be so disgusted.
WatchVenusSpa 1 year ago
stupid ref
t0mi3z 1 year ago
Leeds were kicked all night by these scum but ref did nothing. Clear penalty, clear hand ball....clear to all but this bent cunt!
foriamonlyahorse2 2 years ago 6
Glory Glory Leeds U
thxrist 2 years ago
So the "evidence" is a ball hitting someone's hand in the box, a Milan player falling down near a Leeds one in the box and one dirty tackle that went un-punished...
If it indeed was fixed then the result should be overturned, but this is hardly proof.
Not to mention, just because the FA refuse to investigate corruption in the UK doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Google "bungs" and "clough" and you'll be surprised by what you find.
IAMCANADIAN1998 2 years ago
@IAMCANADIAN1998 Actually the ref was charged with taking a bribe by UEFA & banned from soccer for life! Is that enough evidence????
foriamonlyahorse2 2 years ago
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It's Leeds - it's funny.
Wolfington 2 years ago
it's wolfy the manure fan again..and obviously a closet Leeds fan too..you're on all the videos..sad troll.
theyorkshirewhites 2 years ago
Mmm I luv lids. They're dead sexy and that with their big city and one football team and sophisticated bars and that...
Wolfington 2 years ago
POT KETTLE BLACK. Google "Don Revie" and "Bribery" and see how many results. The great clough said if leeds won anything it was due to cheating. What did Clough know?
stefd321 2 years ago
revie was accussed of it once and we didnt even win the game!!
this game was to win division 1 and was played only two days after our triumph in the fa cup final. the fa and uefa has a history of fucking over leeds FACT
LUFCpickerzWACCOE75 2 years ago
It wasn't just one game was it. Revie has a history of it. Do a bit of research.
stefd321 2 years ago
name another smart arse. were you born in this period??
LUFCpickerzWACCOE75 2 years ago
clough just hated leeds and would do anything just for publicity u stupid twat
AidyBmayty 2 years ago
I honestly doubt Cloughie had any real hard evidence, he just hated Leeds and smacked on them every chance he got. His biggest issue with them was their perchant for dirty play and the constant bitching to the referees. As far as he was concerned, THAT was how they cheated.
WatchVenusSpa 1 year ago
waccoe
alnekings 2 years ago
And if our win in 2007 was "lucky" how do you judge yours in 2005?
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
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rotblaubasel 2 years ago
exactly what im trying to say,you make out ac milan DESTROYED liverpool!!
in 2005 ac should have won and 2007 we should have but you never DESTROYED us because if you would have done you would have won both of them
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
and by the way....im half italian and italy got a long and bad history of cheating,inter in 65 v liverpool,1982 juve scandal 2006 and so on and on and on.....a nation of CHEATS!!
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
The better part of you is italian..:)but the fact that you are italian don'authorize you to make vaguely racist statements..so i'll say that as your nick reveals the Swiss are a people of bankers , so robbers..just to say something stupid...(it's my turn after a jam session of crap by your part)
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
fucking ITALIAN cheats!!
3-0 UP.....6 minutes later 3-3......oh dear oh dear.......you still not over it arent you ha ha ha ha
as the video above clearly shows....FUCKING CHEATS 1965 1982 2006 and so on and on
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
juve inter ac roma in 1984 all fucking CHEATS
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
Ah ah ah..return in your cuckoo clock:)I'm over it..i'm fan of AC MILAN..i've seen more victories and good players than you..it's only i don't like being called cheat..cheat for what?for coming second?Is funny...
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
You must have been 1 of the massive 12'000 milan supporters in istanbul or the massive 16'000 in athens great support for a european cup final
Once you got a season ticket for 33years been to 6european cup finals 2UEFA cup finals 3super cup finals 1intercontinental final in tokyo 6fa cup finals(coppa italia) and 100's of league games....then please come back to me!
And by the way,have you cleaned that shithole "san siro"?Worst and dirtyest ground i been to in the last 15years!BY CHEATING FRIEND
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
Why don't you came and clean San Siro?Have you ever won there?Get here and we'll play again "Oh when the Reds go marchin'in..." destroying you and your team as we did with MU,Real, and other better team than yours..oh ..and pray your team get saved this year by that fucking cheating italian..what's the name?Aquilani...or Chelsea of that other fucking cheating coach Ancelotti will leave you 50 points behind.
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
put it that way my friend,we never played ac in san siro...so how can we win?
played the grande inter there last year and beat them...so yes we won in san siro....!!
Aquilani played today...15minutes in mickey mouse cup and as for ancelotti....wait until the russian boss is fed up with him...ciao ciao ancelotti.....you keep on watching milan....err on tv.......
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
We'll see at the end of the season who's right , my AC Milan this year is not a good team, i must admit..but let's wait and see..oh and my compliments for that good steak you ate in Firenze few weeks ago..i hate Fiorentina but that evening you were ...mmm destroyed.
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
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TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
And pray the italian side of you gets the upper hand..you are talkin' nonsense..maybe the air doesn't get to your brain in that mountains...Ciao pirlone semisvizzero.
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
mountains? you on drugs?
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
I was referring to your supposed country but you didn't get the joke..by the way even on drugs i have better judgement than you !You dinosaur of the Grobbelaar era...
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha,im in work(yes some people in liverpool do work!!)and you made my day with the Grobbelaar comment!!
you are funny! ha ha ha i cant stop laughing!!
hey by the way....1984 bruce finished conti and Graziani off!!....oh what a night.....and then we got bathered by the ultras...lovely
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
don't be naive my friend. Shakespeare wrote "Treason doth not prosper. If it doth prosper no one dare call it treason". At least the Italian FA has the balls to penalise those who attempt corruption. Corruption is rife in the UK. Brown paper bags, match fixing, far east syndicates, the big four cartel, dodgy agents etc etc. FA is just a toothless entity.
stefd321 2 years ago 4
As a person of greek origin and a loyal LUFC supporter this referee was a cunt, fuck galatasaray, we will be back
CBKISGREAT 2 years ago
We was robbed just like in 75!!!
MAM1998 2 years ago
I know it may be funny to leeds fans but this video makes me laugh especailly when Hunter punches out (making a assumption) rivera or cesare maldini.
lexx745890243 2 years ago
Certainly Leeds was one of the top team in the FA and i like the way many players played (Bremner was a great) but in the end it's the same thing we experienced with FC Juventus in Itlay in the 90's , they were dirty, with many nice players but in the end they bribed ref. and judges so even if they were on top they cheated..indeed in the early 70's you suffered from an Italian Syndrome..everywhere we met each other we beat you..so maybe it's not the ref. fault.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
well on this day, the referee was bribed and italian teams beat us everywhere, you must be forgetting Juventus fairs cup, ac milan at elland road and a few more like lazio and roma but on this day the ref was found to have taken bribes. he even arrived on the ac milan plane.
christos michas never reffed a european game again anfd i hope he and beckenbauer suffer greatly in life and death
LUFCpickerzWACCOE75 2 years ago
Oh and yes i'm italian...but i know of the way Leeds played in the early 70's ...Don Revie and his dirty dirty game...the way i see the football my sympathy certainly doesn't go to people who bribed referees, created dossiers and played dirty.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
don revie was a gentlemen mate
we were a great time yes we were a physical side and sometimes to physical but the game was in them days super leeds
pglufc4lyf 2 years ago
If you can find a proof that the final was cheated as your MP (sorry don't remember the name)says you can take back the cup..i personally will take it to Leeds..but you don't know that just 2 days after that final Ac Milan was robbed by Juve in one of the worst cases of cheating by FC Juventus, of the italian Championship title..AC Milan in that years counted nil (in political powers and "bribing" as you say)The team who cheated and drugged their players were Inter and Juventus.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
italian faggots
that was a great Leeds team and i think every ac milan player and coach involved in this match+ ref is a cheat,a faggot and a disgrace to footbal
Leeds for life
Babypuncher90210 2 years ago
Can you tell me that a team with people like Gullit, Van Basten , Rijkaard, Franco Baresi, Paolo Maldini cheated to win?Do you have thi courage?Can you tell me why the same team with Seedorf,Kaka', Shevchenko, Inzaghi cheated to win in Europe destroying teams like Bayern Monaco, M.U. and Liverpool?Or it's more easy to say that AC Milan was only a victim .Why don't talk of Marseille vs Ac Milan 1993?
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
The only time ac milan "destroyed" liverpool was for 45 minutes(i was there) in istanbul,full stop and still ended up loosing.....and you cant say ac destroyed us in athens(i was there too) with a "lucky" 2-1 win after shithouses UEFA let yous in the back door to play in champions league!!
so in other words,cheats like ac milan should NOT have been in the competition that season!!
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
You were there so you remember the miracles of Dudek?The penalty gift?The action of the second goal subsequent to a fragrant foul?The second final (Athens) there was no match..Milan controlled the game to the end.
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
Uefa ddn't let us in the "Back door" , ah ah ah..you better get informed,because there was a "fake" process against us, and the judges didn't found better than charge us with 30 points and we qualified for CL the same.Uefa followed issue and then complimented us for the Fair Play..something you better remember , in many cases you don't know how to write it (i don't take lessons from a Liverpool fan, remember Heysel) .
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
remember heysel?
I WAS THERE and hillsborough too!!
you got your 30points for something and that something is called CHEATING!!!
rotblaubasel 2 years ago
Better get informed as i already said...
TheBlackbrunswicker 2 years ago
Let me explain who was the guy who revoked the 2 titles to FC Juventus, Mr.Guido Rossi (counsellor of FC Inter...i said all), so i can agree with you on one point.The italian Calcio is now clean, but the place who was of FC Juventus in bribing and cheating now is taken by FC Internazionale, AC Milan is only a spectator in all this, and when it had good players demonstrated who was the stronger (in italian football) on the European Field.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
For those who talk about the "Calciopoli" involving Milan, let me say you a thing...Milan was "charged" for an alleged draw with Chievo , in which the Rossoneri scored two goals but were annulled for 2 offsides non-existant.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
Some of you are talking nonsense.You talk of AC Milan who "cheated" this game without bein'able to add a proof.I can tell you the same thing for Milan vs Liverpool 2005 , but what's the use of this?The Liverpool won and that's all.The ref . banned it's not a proof , many stupid referees were banned for being inept .We can talk of the ref, Byron Moreno in Korea - Italy of the WC 2002 for instance.
cantinetozzo 2 years ago
final were not cheated in that final and i dont know where that came from and this ref was found to have been bribed years later
Babypuncher90210 2 years ago
Hahaha everybody hates Leeds anyway so symathy always in short supply for the dirty Yorkshire twats. AVFC for ever!!
ayrtonsenna1994 2 years ago
go on Hunter lad!!!!!
WACCOE
MOT
LUFC896 2 years ago
its ashame, if leeds had of applied for this match ten years later, leeds would have a UEFA cup honour under there name, but they were too late, they should have, and should have a championsleague, outplayed basicly the whole west germany side.. and this referee actually flew over with AC milan team in their plane .. lmao. how bad is that. ohwell, everyone knows the truth though, its why not many people like Italian football, its why Italian football is dead today.
dem1991boy5 2 years ago
UEFA? Is that French for BENT
pregiscregis 2 years ago
Leeds were diddled out of this and the 75 European Cup final. Then there's Nottingham Forest getting swindled in the UEFA Cup semi in '84, and same year Aberdeen were cheated by Porto. UEFA didn't want to know, too much trouble to investigate, easier to do nowt
MCBhangramuffin 2 years ago
well dodgy ref.
davidbowe 2 years ago
GRANDE MILAN !!
robvalentino 2 years ago
super leeds we got done by a cheat
LUFCDannyB 2 years ago
People keep mentioning Hurst and 66 - listen people (Italians) there is a difference between a referee getting decisions wrong (Hurst 66) and a referee taking a bribe!! (Leeds Vs Milan)....I can take bad decisions, genuine mistakes - but I can't take political favors or bribes, which is what THIS match resembles...
DMBRECORDSUK 2 years ago 7
That no#6 was a beast!
flabbyllama 2 years ago
hes called norman bite ur legs hunter
LUFCpickerz95 2 years ago 3
Well I haven't seen the game but considering the fact,Greece was under dictatorship from 67 to 74 and the government pulled some strings to place a greek team to the final of the european chanpionship(panathinaikos),it's not hard to assume they had at some point to return the favor,So they put that referee in that game.
And just for history:There's ONLY one Greek team ever been caught bribing referees both in domestic and european competitions.And guess which that team is...Panathinaikos.
antidrash 2 years ago 2
ridiculous! Panathinaikos didn't cheat to get into that final. And if any Greek team is cheating their way to title success there is only one obvious answer (Olympiakos). Not that I am saying they are, because I don't think they are. Just thought that IF there was to be a cheater, you'd think they'd actually pull off the win right?
d89gr 2 years ago
The dirtiest referee of all times in Greece... he has done real crimes... he should be sent to prison... Mihas. A man of the Greek dictatorship. A man who sent 3 Aris footballers into prison
Losloutsosskoufos 2 years ago
The Greek football is the most corrupt in the world. Olympiacos is always helped by the referees, there was a big scandal about Olympiacos' president Socrates Kokkalis who had bribed the whole referees ascociation and even the Greek League!!! I'll post a video response to see what I mean. The Greek referees were always dirty and still are.
MetroStar69 2 years ago
pffffff.....All fans in Greece except Olympiakos ones say the SAME Reasons (dirty referees etc.) to justify their inability....When will YOU STOP???
whbro 2 years ago
I' d like to see your video...
evosmosmalakes 2 years ago
Scireaa: commenti sul Milan e sulla moralita' da un ladro juventino? Fai ridere.
monkeywrench666 2 years ago
besty..you're in Division 2 mate, is that our fault too?
monkeywrench666 2 years ago
Guardali, gli "Italiani puliti" che vengono qui a fare moralita'...non mancano mai.
monkeywrench666 2 years ago
Cheating, nice win for the 2nd team in Milano
bestyleeds 2 years ago
so you want the cup back? start to give back the ONLY world cup 1966 you won with a ghost goal! Recent digitally-enhanced footage is said to clearly illustrate that Geoff Hurst's second goal did not cross the line! stop cry sad english people!
ActarusRules 2 years ago 2
Where is this "proof" please?
guitardude545454 2 years ago
lo sappiamo tutti che il Milan è la squadra più CORROTTO del Mondo, oggi si parla di Inter-Juve perche le reti di Berlusconi bombardano mediaticamente.
Ma prima di lui perchè il Milan è andato 2 volte in Serie B e nel 2006 con calciopoli invece hanno addirittura vinto la Coppa dell'Indulto?
VERGOGNA AC MILAN.
la vera mafia del calcio ma che opera all'oscuro di tutto e appaiono come i MERAVIGLIOSI...
sì, i meravigliosi MAFIOSI.
Scireaa 2 years ago
Il Milan rubò a man bassa corrompendo l'arbitro. Milan robbed the match by bribing the ref. SHAME! VERGOGNA! MILAN OF OUT EUROPE FOREVER!
spione21 2 years ago
Fu una partita vergognosa. Altro che juve. il milan rubò l'inverosimile!!!
xMarcoMorettix 2 years ago
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43645 2 years ago
Vedi, BBilanista, quella partita è famosa anche se ne è parlato poco negli anni in Italia. Ma in Inghilterra è sempre rimasta un esempio di scandalo. E adesso finalmente è stato fatto un esposto all'UEFA. Dai che se v'impegnate anche quest'anno riuscite a restare fuori dalla Champion's League, BBilanisti di merda.
xMarcoMorettix 2 years ago
sfigati...
doncraudio 2 years ago
anyway, i'll get onto the real reason i visited this page - to view a video and not have obnoxious and objective points of view thrust left right and centre - i'm a manchester born pure through and through Leeds Utd hater. I despise everything Leeds. But, as i said, i don't think anyone could say Leeds didn't deserve to win this.
JessManc1987 2 years ago 4
we wer robbed tht night we shudo won the match against milan n we deserve the title givin 2 us on may 17th this yr
BFD1VIPER1SHOT 2 years ago
hurted by the truth JessManc1987 ??
YOU do your homework and try to be a bit rational by looking back at Red Devils' games in last 2 years : just remind the way Utd got to 2008 Cl final ( by playing an awful, boring catenaccio in Rome & Barcellona defending their area for 90 mins even with Rooney as defending his box area right side ) !!
If a team plays defensive football they just do it, no matter what country they're from.
But this is an elementary truth that the English won't ever get .
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
it seems you spend your time on youtube just waiting for people to disagree with you, so you can thrust your opinions everywhere. i admire a man with passion, but when it is a devotion to self important belittling of others, xenophobia and borderline racism, its just quite sad.
what exactly do you have against 'the english'?!
jeez.
JessManc1987 2 years ago
oh - and i didn't want to mention the 'r' word earlier, but having looked at the previous 11 pages of comments i think i can safely, without any risk of slander, declare you a sad, twisted, self important, blinkered, naive, immature racist.
it's people like you we could do without on this site.
JessManc1987 2 years ago
you have to feel sorry for leeds. i support milan but this was a low-point for football and refs
seanway123 2 years ago 7
English ..!! They created football but they keep on not getting what they have done
since they can't get anything of the game D !
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
Envy is a terrible thing
oradag 2 years ago
That's what I say each time I hear the English biasing about football, since they historically know so little of the game they invented a long time ago .....
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
that's a disappointing, uneducated throwaway comment.
JessManc1987 2 years ago
cos The English dont bribe like u European twats! always cheating. look at Juventus and other Italian teams not long ago relegated and deducted point.... your teams are a con!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sundimented 2 years ago
At least hunter took two of the bastards out before he got sent off!!
ivor333 3 years ago 2
Great video, this music is from Zorba the Greek, a great film starring Anthony Quinn.
XxKubrickFanxX 3 years ago
I remember my Dad telling me about this.
The dirty cheating Italians and the twat they paid.
Meanwood Whites MARCHING ON TOGETHER-
AMOS
neil29649 3 years ago 3
Trulyloyale you make impressive racist comments.
bluerider451 3 years ago
And just look at your ridiculous comments on here : they're so typical when they accomplish the very british habit of blaming the ref. for any defeat & of complaining for years as crying babies .
Great Britain ? A corrupt nation made of double-faced hypocrite cheaters & liars whose 2 only abilities are respectively : spelling out pathetic one-way lies and getting drunk :-) !
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
have you heard yourself? you are in denial about italian football. get over it seria is boring, negative, deffensive shit
chickzidane 3 years ago
chickzidane your comment is a typical british one , so bizarre , one lined and ridiculous as for the content ....!
The most corrupted football ever ? Actual premiership that since years keep on getting all the laundried money form worldwide mafias & corrupted criminals and keep on covering up the hundreds of various scandal the pathetic english football has been producing .
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
English football is run by the mafia since years, Italian football of course is not because there's not big merchandise around the teams in there and worldwide mafias are interested in making money , just recognize that and stick to YOUR own corruption with your technically poor premiership .
Who created the betting over fixed matches ?
The corrupt shity english football !
Which country are from majority of players betting on their matches ?
From corrupted shitty british lands of course !
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
I watched some premiership matches : boring football, crappy players , technic level = that one of Italy's 2nd division, tactic abilities = unbelievably low with stupid shorbrained retarded coaches ( as Mourinho rightly recognized ).
I know you're british so not very accustomed
to selfcriticism and logical statements, but at least try to ask to yourselves why the joke english national
team picked an Italian coach to solve all the unbelievable mess your british idiots had prev. made !
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
If you watch to some serie A matches instead, you may see f.i. a Juventus-Milan
4-2 spectacular match with top level football with no dumb players who fight on the pitch as primitive savages like it happens on shitty premiership , or the worst team Chievo Verona struggling vs. Inter on the road and losing 4-2 playing amazing tech/tactic. football , which is something inferior premiership will may only dream on !
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
u jealous cunt the premiership is the best league in the world and seria a is a bag of shit now. our shitty teams like man city can by kaka n whoever they want so shut up u utter cunt. n y is the english teams dominating the CL, cuz of money? true but when italy was dominating it was cuz of money aswell u biased piece of shit.and dont start saying shit like typical british comment cus its football at the end of the day and i love football but cunts like u wreck it with ur jealous shitty comments
chelseafcruletheworl 3 years ago
I can't be jealous of the premiership, a low level league as for technic & tactics , since I look at serie A that is the most difficult and competitive league of the world .
The PL is big money ( it won't stay that for long 'cos the clubs are in total bankrupcy for hundreds millions of € ) , but out of that is a bad, so poor scum bag
so inferior to serie A. Just look at Kakà and what he replied to ridiculous Manchester City & to bad english league .
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
how is seria the most dfifficult league? its played at walking pace you fucking wop
chickzidane 3 years ago
Its played at the right pace according to
what fooball game is meant to be, which is not poor ridiculous long ball running
so typical of premiership and english football.
The serie A teams have the best training
skills since many years and their athletic trainers are known as the best of the world even from your home teams up over there .
Not mentioning the doping controls & text that in Serie A are made seriously , while in PL are joke
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
( just check what same Beckham, along with tens of other players joining both leagues , said about the differences he found ) .
YOU think about ur funny,bizarre nonsenses brtit style : premiership football is poor as for overall technic & tactics and , out of 3 major teams copying Italy's team way of playing , it's played by shitty teams performing awful,boring games.
And that's holy truth, no matter what your fucking barbarian brain dreams on .
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
When Chelsea or Live or 1-0 Manchester Utd play their bad games, everybody's falls asleep .
Not a casualty that the most boring and ugliest Champions league have been played by Chelsea & Liverpool, not mentioning the Utd " Lionhearts " who had annoeyd everyone with the most defensive antispectacular football in last 20 years
of Champions League to get to the final
( Barcelona semifinal ) lineing up Rooney as defender just right the box area line !...
No need to add more
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
you go on about italian technical football but anyone should have good technique at walking pace. you bored the world in germany 3 years ago. and at every world cup before that. so you can say fuck all about negative play. if english football is so bad why is it the most popular league in the world? because its the best thats why.
chickzidane 3 years ago
omg no way, a waste of time talking to you ...!! It's not a walking pace, it's a different way of playing : not my fault if you can't get that .
The Big 4 PL teams play different from all the other english teams, they implemented in their playing system the same pace " walked " in the rest of Europe . kakà is not an outclass 'cos he walks, it's exaclty the opposite , the same for Ibrahimovic : senseless long ball running means playing bad, not playing at higher speed by itself.
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
its a walking pace. kaka stands out in italy cos he dribbles at speed. how the fuck can you critisise english football saying we play "wrong"? we invented the game so the way we play is right.
chickzidane 3 years ago
And when you make long ball running , that's due 'cos you own low technic and even lower tactic skills .
The best proof of that is your former manager McClaren and how Ferguson made his team change their way of playing the game , taking the best from C.
Ronaldo's technic skills f. i.
Anyway u'll stay in ur op., so I'll do , but if you could chat with some coaches & players of ur Premierleague, maybe they would named the PL the best league but they'd also agree with many statements of mine .
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
Serie A is the most boring league, and it is full of cheating teams. I respect the ability of many players, like Kaka and Zlatan, but the Premiership has the most talent, the best support, and plays the fastest and best football.
XxKubrickFanxX 3 years ago
XxKubrickFan of course everyone is entitled to his opinion , since there's something called freedom of speech , but true facts count more than personal statements : beyond any one-way totally false, bizarre & senseless clichè the most corrupt league in the world is Premiership ( just get informed checking among last years news ).
Majority of english football teams got involved into various & multiple scandals
( even coaches arrested and then set free ) .
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
Sometimes I watch the Premierleague : boring games, poor technic and naive tactics ( out of 3 big teams ).
Much more interesting and attractive the serie A games to the ones who really know something of this sport .
And if we look at the overall technic level ,the Premiership is far below Serie A : as you rightly posted, Kakà, Ibrahimovic,
Del Piero,Totti,Ronaldinho,Buffon, .....play all in Serie A , and not in poor long ball running premierleague ,
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
Because its the most entertaining and is the only league to market rights collectively.
Youre right about last WC though. France were robbed.
Phonicsdude7 2 years ago
And the best dope and most hair gel and the most cheating divers.
lojosang 2 years ago
you're wrong , mate : the best dope is from countries like US, UK,France & Spain as everybody knows so well, Italy instead is fighting seriously doping in sports since many years and we can take no lesson from those most cheating doped countries in world sport like we can take no lesson from shameless doped cheater J. Olav Koss' homecountry ( Norway for those who ignore it ) ,
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
As for most most hai gel, I don't know
what's your knowledge level about stupid
& childish clichès ( which look to be what your culture skills are all about ) , but get
informed that hair gel was trendy in the
80s and it's out since at least 10 years :-)
As for most cheating divers, again you make some stupid,childish & quite false clichès in your place and Italy's masters 4 times world champions take no lesson for king of divers Gerrard's homecountry,
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
or ( if we look at football history & true facts ) from shitty faced german divers or from any football major country .
Italian teams got robbed so many times
in international matches that nobody
may seriously spell out something about the best football country in Europe ( ridiculous british craps comprehensive ) .lol
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
i see your seria A teams are doing well in the champions league again :) what a strong league you have there ;D
chickzidane 2 years ago
strong league for sure, you said well, unlucky with not doubt if you look at Inetr dominating at Manchester, weak Arsenal
superlucky passing only at shootouts and vs Roma with 7 titular players out for injury who played so much better than poor Gunners and Chelsea shooting only twice the Juventus box in Turin .
But serie A was even better till 2 years ago when Milan destroyed your premiership clubs and playing spectacular football not a shitty defensive one like Utd, liverpool & Chelsea DD !
Trulyloyale 2 years ago
Anyway what counts is the final victory and we'll see if any of your lucky premierlerague will win the Champions or outclassing Barcelona will .......
Best wishes to your premierleague teams for the final victory D !!
Trulyloyale 2 years ago