Kaman was going to build a version of the Fairey ship for domestic commercial flying and also a model for the USMC. But Viet Nam orders swamped the company's production capacity/capability, so it was shelved and dropped. A real shame. They would have served the roof of the Pan Am building in midtown manhattan from JFK, LGA, Newark.
"SLAGGING IT OFF"! YOU WOULD HAVE TO STOP THE ROTOR TO MAKE IT GO THAT FAST. SEE MY CHANNEL FOR A STOP-ROTOR TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BASICALLY A NORMAL CHOPPER (WITH WINGS). OH! ROTORS ARE ENCLOSED AND IT IS A FLYING CAR ( BUT NOT A ROAD ABLE AIRCRAFT)... BUT STILL, IT'S BASICALLY JUST A HELICOPTER!!!
480 mph with the rotor windmilling? The Europcopter x3 only does about 260 mph and has 4,500 hp to do it and it would probably carry about eight people.
@dannyfivefifty The problem is that jumbo jets cost about 300 million each! I really doubt if any airport would cost that much (except Heath Row). So the extra cost of these things (if we had a lot of them) would be far more expensive than having airports.
480...? come on now...? as an autogyro...? Do you know much drag you would create, just trying to break 200..? I don't even think it's possible, to break 200, it would probably rip itself apart... Now if you had wings, and could "feather" the rotor blades, that would be another thing... So obviously, this is only for CG / SciFi effect...
@RunningSwimmingMan the original rotodyne from the 50's and 60's in cruise had already topped 190mph. With modern materials technology and aerodynamics i see no reason why an up engined and streamlined variant couldnt push it to near jetliner speeds. Maybe not match or exceed but certainly come close
@oiseautempete Yes, you right, I wish they are not because they are planning to install the silence mode on it so it can reduce from 100 dB to 96 dB... Which is good start but sad you are right, fund was cut and turn down. Because of too much nosie and concern.
Excellent, but why Avro? The original Rotodyne was built by Fairey, and the aviation interests of Fairey were eventually merged with Westland, who became Agusta Westland, so would it not be more appropriate to label it as the Westland, or Agusta Westland Rotodyne? Just a thought, as Avro ceased to exist as an independent company a long time ago.
The original Fairey Rotodydne concept was brilliant. It was noisy, but development could have solved that, I'm sure.
U better keep the blades or the Turbos, why waste them putting it together. the design is flawed , very risky when midair. the blades may just snap on the body.
heya dpsherry.... good thought but imagine the mass flow needed from the bleed to counteract that turbofan spinnin even at idle (single engine ops)..... not saying it wouldnt work... but with the turbofans so far out on the winglet and the related moment of inertia.... maybe not too much of a problem with some forward movement making the tail more effective... but 'at the hover' i think she would spin like a top. remember the harrier is a 1 engine with counterrotating shafts to minimise torque
really guys...think about it.... 2 turnbofans....still generating thrust at idle.....asymmetric thrust (?).... single engine out..... them little tailfeathers wouldnt be enough..... spinnin round.
thats why the original used turboprop setup, 0 AoA 0 torque, even use 'reverse pitch' for single eng op yaw axis control. the littleun diverted jet efflux.
It was noisy but in the 50's noise wasn't the issue like it is today. BesIdes, by the time it was scrapped some quieter tip nozzles had been developed. The project was killed by politics, ignorance and shortsightedness. Westlands had just bought heavily into Sikorski technology (S51 Dragonfly) and the government (Duncan Sandys the aviation minister) felt there wasn't room for two UK companies (Westerland and Fairy) producing Helicopters.
@ApexAurajin I gave the gmax file to someone a couple of years ago to complete it as an add-on for the FS9 game - it required a panel/gauges. Can't remember who, and as I've had an HDD fail recently I don't think I'll be able to find out.
Eurocopter work on a near project, the X3 helicopter (a realy hélicopter not a autogyro like the Fairey rotodyne), but the rotodyne was a billiant conceptt but abandonned in 1959 on UK governement decision to switch to STOL aircraft for Stansted London airport
@DPSflight but noisier than 4 engine turbojet terrors that were if not already in service, soon would be? I reckon the British aero designers were onto a winner, and though the original was indeed noisy, designs were being made to reduce noise to within acceptable limits. Even if ultimately beaten out on long haul flights the rotodyne would have been great on shorter domestic flights, competing against turboprops that need proper runways - yet flying just as fast
ta demorando pra fazer uma beleza dessa aki em cara ae sim em!!!
34122fernando 1 week ago
dear santa....
youngjisue2000 1 week ago
Kaman was going to build a version of the Fairey ship for domestic commercial flying and also a model for the USMC. But Viet Nam orders swamped the company's production capacity/capability, so it was shelved and dropped. A real shame. They would have served the roof of the Pan Am building in midtown manhattan from JFK, LGA, Newark.
djcahill4 4 weeks ago
@djcahill4 Perhaps someone will include a rotodyne in the next release of the MS Flight game .. if there ever is one.
DPSflight 3 weeks ago
Updated Fairey Rotodyne from the 50's a great idea but nobody bought it , although many cities expressed interest.
usmctanks1 4 weeks ago
"SLAGGING IT OFF"! YOU WOULD HAVE TO STOP THE ROTOR TO MAKE IT GO THAT FAST. SEE MY CHANNEL FOR A STOP-ROTOR TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BASICALLY A NORMAL CHOPPER (WITH WINGS). OH! ROTORS ARE ENCLOSED AND IT IS A FLYING CAR ( BUT NOT A ROAD ABLE AIRCRAFT)... BUT STILL, IT'S BASICALLY JUST A HELICOPTER!!!
Justwantahover 4 weeks ago
480 mph with the rotor windmilling? The Europcopter x3 only does about 260 mph and has 4,500 hp to do it and it would probably carry about eight people.
Justwantahover 4 weeks ago
Fantastic theory.I wish aircraft of this type would be put into the production mode upon testing for flight characteristics and useful load.Good Luck
dannyfivefifty 1 month ago
@dannyfivefifty The problem is that jumbo jets cost about 300 million each! I really doubt if any airport would cost that much (except Heath Row). So the extra cost of these things (if we had a lot of them) would be far more expensive than having airports.
Justwantahover 4 weeks ago
480...? come on now...? as an autogyro...? Do you know much drag you would create, just trying to break 200..? I don't even think it's possible, to break 200, it would probably rip itself apart... Now if you had wings, and could "feather" the rotor blades, that would be another thing... So obviously, this is only for CG / SciFi effect...
RunningSwimmingMan 1 month ago
@RunningSwimmingMan the original rotodyne from the 50's and 60's in cruise had already topped 190mph. With modern materials technology and aerodynamics i see no reason why an up engined and streamlined variant couldnt push it to near jetliner speeds. Maybe not match or exceed but certainly come close
kineticdeath 1 month ago
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this helicopterplane is so coool,,,
maybe ussr russia did help air france
bestamerica 1 month ago
Why not try with turboprops with winglet? Then you can see different between it. Just suggest.
Nice video! I like it very much!
strassj 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Great military applications as well...
BRITSIMdotCOM 1 month ago
Why not BAe Turbodyne?
JBofBrisbane 2 months ago
Modern Fairey Rotodyne?
The Rotodyne was abandonned because the noise...
oiseautempete 2 months ago
@oiseautempete Yes, you right, I wish they are not because they are planning to install the silence mode on it so it can reduce from 100 dB to 96 dB... Which is good start but sad you are right, fund was cut and turn down. Because of too much nosie and concern.
strassj 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Excellent, but why Avro? The original Rotodyne was built by Fairey, and the aviation interests of Fairey were eventually merged with Westland, who became Agusta Westland, so would it not be more appropriate to label it as the Westland, or Agusta Westland Rotodyne? Just a thought, as Avro ceased to exist as an independent company a long time ago.
The original Fairey Rotodydne concept was brilliant. It was noisy, but development could have solved that, I'm sure.
tigertonten 3 months ago
Very nice work
3593893 3 months ago
Superb - but why Air France ?
workrestandplay 4 months ago
@workrestandplay I already had an Air France texture so I just re-used the bitmap.
DPSflight 4 months ago
this plane can takeoff anywhere!!even at the top of the mountain!!very smart!!
MrAgusto331 4 months ago
@MrAgusto331
Then you will need a flat topped mountain
1fsnl1 1 month ago
NICE JOB!!
Kitfugl 5 months ago
it would likely be very much safer then the Osprey due to simpler mechanical systems.
Peorhum 7 months ago
Can I Get one For Flight Simulator? Because it is a Super concept and i like the normal rotodyne to
Plane5O 8 months ago
U better keep the blades or the Turbos, why waste them putting it together. the design is flawed , very risky when midair. the blades may just snap on the body.
bangbuddy 9 months ago
heya dpsherry.... good thought but imagine the mass flow needed from the bleed to counteract that turbofan spinnin even at idle (single engine ops)..... not saying it wouldnt work... but with the turbofans so far out on the winglet and the related moment of inertia.... maybe not too much of a problem with some forward movement making the tail more effective... but 'at the hover' i think she would spin like a top. remember the harrier is a 1 engine with counterrotating shafts to minimise torque
CovertAgenda 10 months ago
really guys...think about it.... 2 turnbofans....still generating thrust at idle.....asymmetric thrust (?).... single engine out..... them little tailfeathers wouldnt be enough..... spinnin round.
thats why the original used turboprop setup, 0 AoA 0 torque, even use 'reverse pitch' for single eng op yaw axis control. the littleun diverted jet efflux.
CovertAgenda 10 months ago
@CovertAgenda Bleed nozzles off the main jets as per Harrier perhaps.....?
dpsherry 10 months ago
It was noisy but in the 50's noise wasn't the issue like it is today. BesIdes, by the time it was scrapped some quieter tip nozzles had been developed. The project was killed by politics, ignorance and shortsightedness. Westlands had just bought heavily into Sikorski technology (S51 Dragonfly) and the government (Duncan Sandys the aviation minister) felt there wasn't room for two UK companies (Westerland and Fairy) producing Helicopters.
piersbowlan 10 months ago
A modern day Rotodyne? LOL. The only problem with it is that it'd be a fuel hog.
peepeevagi 11 months ago
Where do I find this?
ApexAurajin 11 months ago
@ApexAurajin I gave the gmax file to someone a couple of years ago to complete it as an add-on for the FS9 game - it required a panel/gauges. Can't remember who, and as I've had an HDD fail recently I don't think I'll be able to find out.
DPSflight 11 months ago
Sadly, the economics would not work for it to be feasible to airlines due to the amount of fuel which would be used.
headells 1 year ago
Yep, sadly the British governments over the years have made some pretty bad decisions when it comes to industry and technology.
Well done that's a nice piece of work Now all we need is some bight spark to make a real flying model of it!
Chilternflyer 1 year ago
Eurocopter work on a near project, the X3 helicopter (a realy hélicopter not a autogyro like the Fairey rotodyne), but the rotodyne was a billiant conceptt but abandonned in 1959 on UK governement decision to switch to STOL aircraft for Stansted London airport
oiseautempete 1 year ago
Why would anyone want to slag off a brilliant concept ? Sadly the British who developed this idea, abandoned it in the 1950's.
Imagine city to city air transport direct to the city centre! Richard Branson should get on it.
Good informative graphic to.
idjumdjum 1 year ago 4
@idjumdjum Brilliant.....but noisy.
DPSflight 1 year ago
@DPSflight but noisier than 4 engine turbojet terrors that were if not already in service, soon would be? I reckon the British aero designers were onto a winner, and though the original was indeed noisy, designs were being made to reduce noise to within acceptable limits. Even if ultimately beaten out on long haul flights the rotodyne would have been great on shorter domestic flights, competing against turboprops that need proper runways - yet flying just as fast
kineticdeath 1 year ago