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@Lilja20 You are very right. Your people are free to act in whatever way. They can accept fake genocides. They can invade other countries and kill millions of people as in Libya and Iraq. Now your people may wanna fight with iran. You are very lucky men. very lucky. so much I will change my nationality and religion :)
@ofri75 "and never join EU." Are you ok?? 90% of the turks say NO! to european union.. only erdogan want to join eu.. FUCK YOU FUCK EUROPE FUCK EU!!!!!
There was no Armenian genocide. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda. The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted & how Iraq had WMDs.
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The word genocide is a very serious offense which is not to be decided on by some ignorant, alchoholic and drug addict parliamentarians. It is the duty of the historians to deeply debate this issue.
To me sweden, like other western countries, has decided to pursue a christian crusader ideology to realize its long-run imperialistic aims on my country. However, it is doomed to fail sooner or later with an unforgettable disgrace.
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@ainanor I am not seljuk. my fathers were living in asia minor for two thousand years long. And you armenian ermeni moron, asia minor was never your mother land, you are all persian gypsies fucked by ancient greeks, therefore your language looks like weird.
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@Lilja20 our historians are dwelving on the subject for years and when they offer executing a mutual study, the avoiding party is always armenians and you earopeans because our historians are able to quickly debunk your thesis.
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@ainanor i advise you to read more. ancient greeks have set foot in asia minor just for a very short time because they have been kicked off by persians. and armenians do not have any history beyond 1000 years. their historic places like Ani wrecks date back only 900 years. and also we turks are not mongolian. Mongolians have some contributions to us but also they caused big destructions to our people.
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i advise you to read. ancient greeks have set foot in asia minor just for a very short time because they have been kicked off by persians. and armenians do not have any history beyond 1000 years. their historic places like Ani wrecks date back only 900 years. and also we turks are not mongolian. Mongolians have some contributions to us but also they caused big destructions to our people.
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@Lilja20 By this statement you are showing how much you are miserable. If you are serious, then someone should teach you that democracy means listening everybody's, not only swedish people's,opinion, especially for these kind of decisions which directly concerns people outside sweden. Anyway actually I am not suprised because you showed typical western hypocrasy. we saw this in Bosnia.
armenians are famous for their brothels in İstanbul. With this act, swedish government will have a great market share to sell swedish whores in middle east:))
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I am not talking about any permission. read it carefully. if you are preparing resolutions about my country, Lilja you should have, at least, asked what we think about it. that would be more democratic but as i see you are nothing to do with democracy.
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@Lilja20 I am very very democrat but you are a nasty anti-turk. i am not to teach you what democracy is. you better tell these stories to your fucking gay armenian friends.
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@Lilja20 You are totally wrong because, as armenian administrators stated, the whole story about this so-called genocide thing is political issue not a historical or humanitarian cause. Armenia still does not recognize international treaties that it signed and officially claims land from my country and other neighboring states such as Azerbaijan and Georgia. You Europeans, whether knowingly or unknowingly, are giving an opportunity to armenia to realize its imperialistic goals.
@Genchmen No you are exagerating or you are lying. The fact that sweden regonices it as a genocide dosn t mean Sweden have agreed to any kind of take over of land. You are completly wrong. Sweden have admited the genocied on armenians it has not agreed to any thing else.
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Sweden did these all crap just to benefit to some groups who are aiming to denigrate my country and then a swedish minister came to my country to "apologize." they think they can make fun of us. Anyway sweden take your resolution and stick it into your ass.
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@Lilja20 No need because there are no such ugly things in our history. We have never done such filthy crimes. Never. We are different from you guys. You are nasty colonialists who exploited the earth for your own sake for more than five hundred years, and enslaved many innocent people even little kids for your greed. Your history is full of genocides. And now you are trying to get away with this fact by spitting these kinds disparaging blames to us.
@mariosathens1 lmao thats not fully true we kicked you guys out because u guys backstabbed us for our enemies..i.e Russia, Britian... and its not like God created the Greeks, Kurds, Armenians etc right here in Anatolia..same with Cyprus...its wasnt greek only it was Venetian also and then Ottoman last then the Ottoman sold it to the British because it was bankrupt..times change and so does borders you know..so sure before us greeks didnt conquer it from anybody else
I agree that borders change. But now stay to your lands and don't claim more from us (Aegean,West Thrace)..We sick of having a bully neighbourn that wants more and more.. Do turkish Media mention what is happening in the Aegean sky every week? In now ages Turkey claim to rule the half islands of Aegean.Enough
after a 100 years armenians managed to exagurate what happened to them and without telling what their side have done in 1915..Armenians still today claim land from Georgia, Turkey, Azerbaijan..and i think the reason why there trying to get everyone recognize the genocide is not to prevent another one..but to take land and money from Turkey this way since it cant invade with military like they did to Karabagh and Nakichevan
lol @ 'armenians still today claim land from georgia, turkey, azerbaijan' well let's see why...because IT IS Armenian land. GOOGLE THIS 'AZERBAIJAN, THE REAL, THE FRUAD' AND READ ABOUT THE 'HISTORY' OF THE FAKE 'AZERBAIJAN'. WHY HAS NO ONE IN HISTORY EVER MENTIONED AZERBAIJAN EXCEPT AS BEING AN IRANIAN PROVINCE SOUTH OF THE ARAX RIVER ? BECAUSE THEIR NEVER WAS A COUNTRY CALLED AZERBAIJAN NORTH OF THE ARAX UP TO 1918, WHICH EVEN THE U.N. DENIED THEM MEMBERSHIP.
Every neighborn of Turkey claim lands, simply because all the neighbourns of Turkey lived in this lands before Turks come and conquer them. Turkish goverments knew that,so a way to keep those lands was to extreminate all the minorities(Greeks and Armenians) so the mother-lands stop their dreams to take back whatever Turks had conquer by force.
@Anatolian90 Claiming others lands is a mongol turkish heritage! After 100 years you turk mongols have invaded our lands you have compleatly forgotten where you came from? And yes we will never forget what is ours! But you have a very short memory, since after 100 years you think you are not mongols anymore!
@ainanor first of all we are not Mongols but Turk.. if you cant tell the differen ce then dont act like you know about Turkish history second we know very well our ancestors come from central asia and the reason why we look Kurd and Armeinan is because we started sleeping with their women for 100's of years...and who didnt invade land in the past?? Turkey is just another empire that took control over Anatolia just like Persian and Roman Empires...we give armenians chance but they backstab us 1st
ok seriously as a turk i know that the deportation of the Armenian had led to severe deaths for them...but this iwas for the states protection because the armenian rebels were massacring innocent muslims and backstabbed us for the Russians to create a Armenian state...so there was no attempt of genoicde or to whipe out the armenian race..all it is was a trageic event 100 years ago that was caused by armed rebellions against the Ottomans and ended up a consiquence for the Armenian population
Turks are MURDERERS turks MURDERED ARMENIANS GREEKS KURDS BULGARIANS JEWS EZDI HUNGARIANS ASSURIANS I can keep going on turks are MURDERERS turks can change their cloths,their letters,their hair,their names but your gens are of MURDERERS
It is not a fault of the present Turks the Armenian genocide.But is their fault to try hide something that all region knows. One million humans killed,that can't be hidden.Since 1900+ Turkey was ruled by goverments that obey to military captains.Don't try to persuate us that your military goverments are angels.They believe in a united Turkey without minorities to claim lands,they find the plan and the time and they did it..Don't tell us that the Armenias died in vacation to Anatolia
Genchmen you are right about the killings of native americans and during ww1 british troops went north trough syria like a crudasade and killed as many as 2000-3000 people. Still most countries admit any wrongdoings but the genocide in armenia was more like rwanda according to historians. There were interhamwes ( name for killers in rwanda)of turkish civilans killing armenians.
Turkish goverments knows well about war crimes and genocides..Ask all the nations who are neighbourn with Turkey..Ask Arabs,Greeks,Armenians,Kurds,Cypriots,Jews,Balkans. Every family cries for at least one dead from turkish troops during the last 100 years.Where are all the minorities who lived in present Turkey??? Somewhere in a mass grave..Well done Sweden..Greetings from Athens
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What about Turkish minorities in greece, armenia, and arabistan? Where are they right now? More than 60% of the population in Balkans was ethnic Turkish Muslims. Right now, none of them exist.
Nice joke.After the WW2 there were more than 200,000 Greeks living in Costantinoupoli and now there are 2000.And in Greek Thrace were 100,000 turks and now they are more than 200,000.And this is true.But the turkish goverment didn't want Greeks in the city,so they fanatized with lies the turkish people and in one night they destroyed all the Greek homes.This is the policy of Turkey my friend.You know well that you always had ghost goverments..
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There are Turks living in Western Trace in very harsh conditions. Many of them have been losing their citizenship by many tricky games of greek governments. My friend for years your governments pursued meaningless dreams like megalo idea. And now the policy went bankrupt with more than 300 billion public debt.
@Genchmen The genocide of the Armenians by Turks is a historical fact..What ever you Turks say is just bacause you don't want to admit it.You just continiue the mistake that you have done in the past..All the world knows it but the politicians doesn't recognize it because they want to have good relationships with the turkish markets.This is diplomacy..But the crime happened,so live with that..
@Genchmen i don't know were are the Azeri.. this doesn't means that the Turks doesn't killed thousands of thousands of Armenians..the Turks will face their past and the Armenians what ever they did to Azeri they will face their own past too someday..
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Mario look! we've closed this book 90 years ago by treaty of Kars. All signatory states, including armenia, agreed that all happened to armenians were a result of the war. That's it. Now the problem is armenia does not recognize this treaty and constantly terorizing neighboring states to claim land.
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Mario I am not telling you that my country did not kill anyone. No country in the earth surface can claim that it did not kill other nations because that would be non-sense. What my problem here is that my country is tried to be shown as the first genocide maker in the world history while there were many mass killings of people before that period.
@Genchmen i know my friend that Turkey is not the only country that commite such a crime,other countries have done worst.The curse of Turkey is your army,your Generals.Those men always hated anything that wasn't turkish.The same happened to the Greeks of Izmir and Pontus some years later. They were sented to walk to the deserts without food and water and the most of them died in the road.A crime doesn't need weapon....It was a plan of the turkish army how to get away the minorities from Turkey.
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Mario if you wanna talk about Generals, I can talk about what greek generals during Balkan war has done to Turks of Thessaloniki. They were forced to flee their town with depredation. Many of them has died in poor conditions in the road. Their all belongings has been sacked by greek army invaders. When talking about things that happened in the past, people should be sincere in the debate.
@Genchmen I haven't hear any story like this before.Maybe its true,maybe its not.I honest don't know..If is it true then we talk about a war crime that Greece is responsible for.But the issue its not greek-turkish relations.You talk like our politicians,all the time the political partys accuse each other who stole less money.We don't care who did less,but what they did..Here we talk about a genocide that only the Turks denay that happened..If you ask a Russian what he thinks about Stalin
@Genchmen he will answer that he is a hero who saved Russia from the Germans and made his country an Empire.But every one knows what did to the minorities of Russia and to the East Europeans.Thousands of thousands dead citizens..Kemal for you is a hero,for the rest of us is a butcher who let the army to slay Greeks and Armenians.You see my friend history always is written with blood..A good plan of Turkey is a bloody plan for the others and reverse ofcourse...
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Mario as I said I can not claim that during the independence war of my country, there were no murders, or genocides. Every country in the earth surface has experienced some cruel incidences in some period of their lifetime. This is a rule. I cannot deny that. This is a case for greece, armenia, turkey, germany, japan, england, USA, and so on. Therefore it is very meaningless to talk about these since it will incite more debate, which can cause futher problems.
@Genchmen I agree with you 100% per cent. Many nations during intepedence wars have done war crimes. It was another time period then, a period that countries could hide some things better. I am sure that the turkish public opinion didn't knew what the army was doing.I don't believe that a turkish mother knew that childrens are walking to death,even if they were Armenians or Greeks. Also i want to express my sympathy for the turkish victims of the Israeli pirate action.They should take a lesson
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mario thank you for your appreciation of turkish victims and also I don't believe that a greek mother knew that childrens are walking to death 90 years ago. ,even if they were Turks
@Genchmen There is not smoke without a fire..If your neighbourns,that lived with you for centuries says that thousands of our relatives never arrived to our countries after the hunting of Kemal maybe it is time for you to start think why we say such things..We are crazy,we hate Turks so much,we envy mighty Turkey? I don't think so my friend..We just want the truth taht might suprise you.Modern Turkey has nothing to do with those crimes but to denay that happened is cruel...
@Genchmen and i don't say that because i am Greek and you a Turk.It is so hard for a citizen to admit that his country is capable for such a crime but its true.Then it was 1900,not 2010 where such crimes can't be happen.In those ages many things could happen without the rest of the world could know it..Borders were often changing so the turkish army found a way to get away the minorities so the neighbourn countries didn't had an excuse to claim lands..History always repeats..
mario answer my question where all those Turkish people once living in today's armenian soil? where are those people who once were living in Erivan? don't hush just answer.
A genocide it isn't a murder to be hidden.We in Greece as neighbourns to Turkey know from the Armenian survivors the truth about what happened.I still remember my grandfathers friend who was Armenian, the details.The present Turks should not try to hide the truth with lies and threats.The turkish goverments know well about war crimes and genocides.Where all the people who lived in the lands of present Turkey??? Well done Sweden.
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And I still remember from my grandfather's friend, who was from Crete, the details regarding how Greek government has carried out a program to eliminate whole Turkish population in Crete as well as in whole Greek peninsula.
i believe you in this.The Turks of Crete shouldn't forced to live from the island.I am from Crete and i know that they had good relations with the Greeks.They born there and they love the island.But politics have there own plans.But here we talk about war crimes that the turkish military goverments commite so Turkey would be a place only for Turks
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Thank you. at least one of you agreed with me in one issue. But you are trying to show it very innocent. I don't agree with you because after independence all greek governments pursued the policy of megalo idea, which is literally big idea of establishing big greek state. to do that your governments carried out systematic plan to eradicate all Turkish traces in greek peninsula.
@Genchmen But actuell/ We fuck you! Poor gipsie dirty cunts mongolian vomiting. The Europe stays by us. You hate all the world! Fuck your degenerate mongolo-turkish pig race and death to every mongol turk as though they were dead!!! Even after earthquake-dead fuckin mongol, dead!!! Zeus fucked your unwashed gipsie aborigens
it is true that the politics of sweden hade ideés that whase a bit like the Nazis, but we never realy did enything. Sweden an Germany have bin good friends sens 1526. that is one of meny resens we whas not invaded in the secend world war. But the genecide on the armenien whase the first organized in history. Ottoman Empier where allied whithe Germany in the first world war. Hitler later got inspierd by the armenien genocide, and so did Starlin. i apology for my bad spelling
Unfortunate? Lady, the only unfortunate issue is that your people get brainwashed year and after year believing that the Ottoman Empire's actions were mere Civil War Protocols. That's sad and hurtful. At least Nazi Germans took responsibility for their actions against what they did to the Jewish people after WWII but Turkey still hasn't done that after almost 95 years.
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@Lilja20 You are very right. Your people are free to act in whatever way. They can accept fake genocides. They can invade other countries and kill millions of people as in Libya and Iraq. Now your people may wanna fight with iran. You are very lucky men. very lucky. so much I will change my nationality and religion :)
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Turkey must face its crime... if not, it should be boycotted, kicked out of NATO and never join EU. Turkish crimes include:
1. The filthy attempt of Turkey to boycot countries who recognize Armenian genocide is disgusting
2. Turkey continues to occupy Kurdistan, oppress Kurds, put them in prisons for daring to show political aspirations and execute them
3. Turkey invaded Cyprus illegally, occupying 1/3 of the island!
4. Turkey sent a ship (flotila) full of terrorists to harm Israel!
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@ofri75 dont confuse cyprus with west bank.
Genchmen 2 months ago
@ofri75 "and never join EU." Are you ok?? 90% of the turks say NO! to european union.. only erdogan want to join eu.. FUCK YOU FUCK EUROPE FUCK EU!!!!!
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@Lilja20 Now I see why racialist and facist parties are gaining high votes in western europe: it is a typical western crusader democracy.
Guys I pitty you even more.
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There was no Armenian genocide. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda. The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted & how Iraq had WMDs.
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The word genocide is a very serious offense which is not to be decided on by some ignorant, alchoholic and drug addict parliamentarians. It is the duty of the historians to deeply debate this issue.
To me sweden, like other western countries, has decided to pursue a christian crusader ideology to realize its long-run imperialistic aims on my country. However, it is doomed to fail sooner or later with an unforgettable disgrace.
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@ainanor Check your dna. you are all persian gypsies who were fucked by invading greek army soldiers. your home is indian plateaus. go there budy.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@ainanor I am not seljuk. my fathers were living in asia minor for two thousand years long. And you armenian ermeni moron, asia minor was never your mother land, you are all persian gypsies fucked by ancient greeks, therefore your language looks like weird.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@Lilja20 our historians are dwelving on the subject for years and when they offer executing a mutual study, the avoiding party is always armenians and you earopeans because our historians are able to quickly debunk your thesis.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@ainanor i advise you to read more. ancient greeks have set foot in asia minor just for a very short time because they have been kicked off by persians. and armenians do not have any history beyond 1000 years. their historic places like Ani wrecks date back only 900 years. and also we turks are not mongolian. Mongolians have some contributions to us but also they caused big destructions to our people.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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i advise you to read. ancient greeks have set foot in asia minor just for a very short time because they have been kicked off by persians. and armenians do not have any history beyond 1000 years. their historic places like Ani wrecks date back only 900 years. and also we turks are not mongolian. Mongolians have some contributions to us but also they caused big destructions to our people.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@Lilja20 By this statement you are showing how much you are miserable. If you are serious, then someone should teach you that democracy means listening everybody's, not only swedish people's,opinion, especially for these kind of decisions which directly concerns people outside sweden. Anyway actually I am not suprised because you showed typical western hypocrasy. we saw this in Bosnia.
Genchmen 1 year ago
armenians are famous for their brothels in İstanbul. With this act, swedish government will have a great market share to sell swedish whores in middle east:))
arnomelez 1 year ago
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I am not talking about any permission. read it carefully. if you are preparing resolutions about my country, Lilja you should have, at least, asked what we think about it. that would be more democratic but as i see you are nothing to do with democracy.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@Lilja20 I am very very democrat but you are a nasty anti-turk. i am not to teach you what democracy is. you better tell these stories to your fucking gay armenian friends.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@Lilja20 You are totally wrong because, as armenian administrators stated, the whole story about this so-called genocide thing is political issue not a historical or humanitarian cause. Armenia still does not recognize international treaties that it signed and officially claims land from my country and other neighboring states such as Azerbaijan and Georgia. You Europeans, whether knowingly or unknowingly, are giving an opportunity to armenia to realize its imperialistic goals.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen No you are exagerating or you are lying. The fact that sweden regonices it as a genocide dosn t mean Sweden have agreed to any kind of take over of land. You are completly wrong. Sweden have admited the genocied on armenians it has not agreed to any thing else.
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Sweden did these all crap just to benefit to some groups who are aiming to denigrate my country and then a swedish minister came to my country to "apologize." they think they can make fun of us. Anyway sweden take your resolution and stick it into your ass.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@Lilja20 No need because there are no such ugly things in our history. We have never done such filthy crimes. Never. We are different from you guys. You are nasty colonialists who exploited the earth for your own sake for more than five hundred years, and enslaved many innocent people even little kids for your greed. Your history is full of genocides. And now you are trying to get away with this fact by spitting these kinds disparaging blames to us.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@mariosathens1 lmao thats not fully true we kicked you guys out because u guys backstabbed us for our enemies..i.e Russia, Britian... and its not like God created the Greeks, Kurds, Armenians etc right here in Anatolia..same with Cyprus...its wasnt greek only it was Venetian also and then Ottoman last then the Ottoman sold it to the British because it was bankrupt..times change and so does borders you know..so sure before us greeks didnt conquer it from anybody else
Anatolian90 1 year ago
I agree that borders change. But now stay to your lands and don't claim more from us (Aegean,West Thrace)..We sick of having a bully neighbourn that wants more and more.. Do turkish Media mention what is happening in the Aegean sky every week? In now ages Turkey claim to rule the half islands of Aegean.Enough
mariosathens1 1 year ago
after a 100 years armenians managed to exagurate what happened to them and without telling what their side have done in 1915..Armenians still today claim land from Georgia, Turkey, Azerbaijan..and i think the reason why there trying to get everyone recognize the genocide is not to prevent another one..but to take land and money from Turkey this way since it cant invade with military like they did to Karabagh and Nakichevan
Anatolian90 1 year ago
lol @ 'armenians still today claim land from georgia, turkey, azerbaijan' well let's see why...because IT IS Armenian land. GOOGLE THIS 'AZERBAIJAN, THE REAL, THE FRUAD' AND READ ABOUT THE 'HISTORY' OF THE FAKE 'AZERBAIJAN'. WHY HAS NO ONE IN HISTORY EVER MENTIONED AZERBAIJAN EXCEPT AS BEING AN IRANIAN PROVINCE SOUTH OF THE ARAX RIVER ? BECAUSE THEIR NEVER WAS A COUNTRY CALLED AZERBAIJAN NORTH OF THE ARAX UP TO 1918, WHICH EVEN THE U.N. DENIED THEM MEMBERSHIP.
P1KA22O 1 year ago
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@P1KA22O Azerbaijan has been existed in their lands for more than 2000 years. you are confusing Azerbaijan with your fake country.
Genchmen 1 year ago
Every neighborn of Turkey claim lands, simply because all the neighbourns of Turkey lived in this lands before Turks come and conquer them. Turkish goverments knew that,so a way to keep those lands was to extreminate all the minorities(Greeks and Armenians) so the mother-lands stop their dreams to take back whatever Turks had conquer by force.
mariosathens1 1 year ago
@Anatolian90 Claiming others lands is a mongol turkish heritage! After 100 years you turk mongols have invaded our lands you have compleatly forgotten where you came from? And yes we will never forget what is ours! But you have a very short memory, since after 100 years you think you are not mongols anymore!
ainanor 1 year ago
@ainanor first of all we are not Mongols but Turk.. if you cant tell the differen ce then dont act like you know about Turkish history second we know very well our ancestors come from central asia and the reason why we look Kurd and Armeinan is because we started sleeping with their women for 100's of years...and who didnt invade land in the past?? Turkey is just another empire that took control over Anatolia just like Persian and Roman Empires...we give armenians chance but they backstab us 1st
Anatolian90 1 year ago
ok seriously as a turk i know that the deportation of the Armenian had led to severe deaths for them...but this iwas for the states protection because the armenian rebels were massacring innocent muslims and backstabbed us for the Russians to create a Armenian state...so there was no attempt of genoicde or to whipe out the armenian race..all it is was a trageic event 100 years ago that was caused by armed rebellions against the Ottomans and ended up a consiquence for the Armenian population
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It is not a fault of the present Turks the Armenian genocide.But is their fault to try hide something that all region knows. One million humans killed,that can't be hidden.Since 1900+ Turkey was ruled by goverments that obey to military captains.Don't try to persuate us that your military goverments are angels.They believe in a united Turkey without minorities to claim lands,they find the plan and the time and they did it..Don't tell us that the Armenias died in vacation to Anatolia
mariosathens1 1 year ago
Genchmen you are right about the killings of native americans and during ww1 british troops went north trough syria like a crudasade and killed as many as 2000-3000 people. Still most countries admit any wrongdoings but the genocide in armenia was more like rwanda according to historians. There were interhamwes ( name for killers in rwanda)of turkish civilans killing armenians.
AtenThunderbutt 1 year ago
@AtenThunderbutt Not all historians think like you.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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@AtenThunderbutt Not all historians think like you. There are many who thinks these whole thing is a scam.
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Turkish goverments knows well about war crimes and genocides..Ask all the nations who are neighbourn with Turkey..Ask Arabs,Greeks,Armenians,Kurds,Cypriots,Jews,Balkans. Every family cries for at least one dead from turkish troops during the last 100 years.Where are all the minorities who lived in present Turkey??? Somewhere in a mass grave..Well done Sweden..Greetings from Athens
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What about Turkish minorities in greece, armenia, and arabistan? Where are they right now? More than 60% of the population in Balkans was ethnic Turkish Muslims. Right now, none of them exist.
Genchmen 1 year ago
Nice joke.After the WW2 there were more than 200,000 Greeks living in Costantinoupoli and now there are 2000.And in Greek Thrace were 100,000 turks and now they are more than 200,000.And this is true.But the turkish goverment didn't want Greeks in the city,so they fanatized with lies the turkish people and in one night they destroyed all the Greek homes.This is the policy of Turkey my friend.You know well that you always had ghost goverments..
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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There are Turks living in Western Trace in very harsh conditions. Many of them have been losing their citizenship by many tricky games of greek governments. My friend for years your governments pursued meaningless dreams like megalo idea. And now the policy went bankrupt with more than 300 billion public debt.
Genchmen 1 year ago
where are all minority people who were living in present armenia?
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen The genocide of the Armenians by Turks is a historical fact..What ever you Turks say is just bacause you don't want to admit it.You just continiue the mistake that you have done in the past..All the world knows it but the politicians doesn't recognize it because they want to have good relationships with the turkish markets.This is diplomacy..But the crime happened,so live with that..
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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Mario cut the crap and tell me where all those Azeri Turkish people once living in today's armenian soil?
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen i don't know were are the Azeri.. this doesn't means that the Turks doesn't killed thousands of thousands of Armenians..the Turks will face their past and the Armenians what ever they did to Azeri they will face their own past too someday..
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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Mario look! we've closed this book 90 years ago by treaty of Kars. All signatory states, including armenia, agreed that all happened to armenians were a result of the war. That's it. Now the problem is armenia does not recognize this treaty and constantly terorizing neighboring states to claim land.
Genchmen 1 year ago
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Mario I am not telling you that my country did not kill anyone. No country in the earth surface can claim that it did not kill other nations because that would be non-sense. What my problem here is that my country is tried to be shown as the first genocide maker in the world history while there were many mass killings of people before that period.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen i know my friend that Turkey is not the only country that commite such a crime,other countries have done worst.The curse of Turkey is your army,your Generals.Those men always hated anything that wasn't turkish.The same happened to the Greeks of Izmir and Pontus some years later. They were sented to walk to the deserts without food and water and the most of them died in the road.A crime doesn't need weapon....It was a plan of the turkish army how to get away the minorities from Turkey.
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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Mario if you wanna talk about Generals, I can talk about what greek generals during Balkan war has done to Turks of Thessaloniki. They were forced to flee their town with depredation. Many of them has died in poor conditions in the road. Their all belongings has been sacked by greek army invaders. When talking about things that happened in the past, people should be sincere in the debate.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen I haven't hear any story like this before.Maybe its true,maybe its not.I honest don't know..If is it true then we talk about a war crime that Greece is responsible for.But the issue its not greek-turkish relations.You talk like our politicians,all the time the political partys accuse each other who stole less money.We don't care who did less,but what they did..Here we talk about a genocide that only the Turks denay that happened..If you ask a Russian what he thinks about Stalin
mariosathens1 1 year ago
@Genchmen he will answer that he is a hero who saved Russia from the Germans and made his country an Empire.But every one knows what did to the minorities of Russia and to the East Europeans.Thousands of thousands dead citizens..Kemal for you is a hero,for the rest of us is a butcher who let the army to slay Greeks and Armenians.You see my friend history always is written with blood..A good plan of Turkey is a bloody plan for the others and reverse ofcourse...
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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Mario as I said I can not claim that during the independence war of my country, there were no murders, or genocides. Every country in the earth surface has experienced some cruel incidences in some period of their lifetime. This is a rule. I cannot deny that. This is a case for greece, armenia, turkey, germany, japan, england, USA, and so on. Therefore it is very meaningless to talk about these since it will incite more debate, which can cause futher problems.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen I agree with you 100% per cent. Many nations during intepedence wars have done war crimes. It was another time period then, a period that countries could hide some things better. I am sure that the turkish public opinion didn't knew what the army was doing.I don't believe that a turkish mother knew that childrens are walking to death,even if they were Armenians or Greeks. Also i want to express my sympathy for the turkish victims of the Israeli pirate action.They should take a lesson
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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mario thank you for your appreciation of turkish victims and also I don't believe that a greek mother knew that childrens are walking to death 90 years ago. ,even if they were Turks
Genchmen 1 year ago
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mario go and study Ataturk.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen There is not smoke without a fire..If your neighbourns,that lived with you for centuries says that thousands of our relatives never arrived to our countries after the hunting of Kemal maybe it is time for you to start think why we say such things..We are crazy,we hate Turks so much,we envy mighty Turkey? I don't think so my friend..We just want the truth taht might suprise you.Modern Turkey has nothing to do with those crimes but to denay that happened is cruel...
mariosathens1 1 year ago
@Genchmen and i don't say that because i am Greek and you a Turk.It is so hard for a citizen to admit that his country is capable for such a crime but its true.Then it was 1900,not 2010 where such crimes can't be happen.In those ages many things could happen without the rest of the world could know it..Borders were often changing so the turkish army found a way to get away the minorities so the neighbourn countries didn't had an excuse to claim lands..History always repeats..
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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mario answer my question where all those Turkish people once living in today's armenian soil? where are those people who once were living in Erivan? don't hush just answer.
Genchmen 1 year ago
A genocide it isn't a murder to be hidden.We in Greece as neighbourns to Turkey know from the Armenian survivors the truth about what happened.I still remember my grandfathers friend who was Armenian, the details.The present Turks should not try to hide the truth with lies and threats.The turkish goverments know well about war crimes and genocides.Where all the people who lived in the lands of present Turkey??? Well done Sweden.
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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And I still remember from my grandfather's friend, who was from Crete, the details regarding how Greek government has carried out a program to eliminate whole Turkish population in Crete as well as in whole Greek peninsula.
Genchmen 1 year ago
i believe you in this.The Turks of Crete shouldn't forced to live from the island.I am from Crete and i know that they had good relations with the Greeks.They born there and they love the island.But politics have there own plans.But here we talk about war crimes that the turkish military goverments commite so Turkey would be a place only for Turks
mariosathens1 1 year ago
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Thank you. at least one of you agreed with me in one issue. But you are trying to show it very innocent. I don't agree with you because after independence all greek governments pursued the policy of megalo idea, which is literally big idea of establishing big greek state. to do that your governments carried out systematic plan to eradicate all Turkish traces in greek peninsula.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen
everywhere there is a black spot to cover the light
here the black spot is you
do you have the same MURDERER GENS?
maybe you have other story?
anyway you are the black spot
armhumanbeing 1 year ago
Thank you Sweden, bye bye Gypsy turks
polopolak 1 year ago
@polopolak +100
John87878787 1 year ago
Turks are good people but they must study the history and apologize for the past of their ancestors instead of spitting in our face
ConflictedYouth 1 year ago 10
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You have to tell this to swedish authorities who castrated 100.000 people in the last 20 years without their consent.
Genchmen 1 year ago
watch?v=IqcjaPsJHXI
we are ready to face our history. but i think they are not.
RaGeAgA 1 year ago
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You were acting with psychotic nazi ideology: to create a pure race with no "debris" from other nations.
Men, you should face your history straight:)
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen But actuell/ We fuck you! Poor gipsie dirty cunts mongolian vomiting. The Europe stays by us. You hate all the world! Fuck your degenerate mongolo-turkish pig race and death to every mongol turk as though they were dead!!! Even after earthquake-dead fuckin mongol, dead!!! Zeus fucked your unwashed gipsie aborigens
John87878787 1 year ago
it is true that the politics of sweden hade ideés that whase a bit like the Nazis, but we never realy did enything. Sweden an Germany have bin good friends sens 1526. that is one of meny resens we whas not invaded in the secend world war. But the genecide on the armenien whase the first organized in history. Ottoman Empier where allied whithe Germany in the first world war. Hitler later got inspierd by the armenien genocide, and so did Starlin. i apology for my bad spelling
DeathbloomSWE 1 year ago
Greece always by your side.
KostasGR41171 1 year ago 13
Greetings to our Armenian christian brothers from Greece.
KostasGR41171 1 year ago 23
Thanks, much love from Armenia
ConflictedYouth 1 year ago 15
What a brave and generous step!!!! Bravo democratic country of Sweden!!!!!!!!!!
HayaLiliana 1 year ago 17
Fuck smelly gipsie turks!!! Cyprus is greek!
John87878787 1 year ago 7
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Go fuck yourself idiot..
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen Fuck you motherfucker turgaysh slut
John87878787 1 year ago
We fucked you already in 1974.
Genchmen 1 year ago
Unfortunate? Lady, the only unfortunate issue is that your people get brainwashed year and after year believing that the Ottoman Empire's actions were mere Civil War Protocols. That's sad and hurtful. At least Nazi Germans took responsibility for their actions against what they did to the Jewish people after WWII but Turkey still hasn't done that after almost 95 years.
herculov 1 year ago 18
Bravo Sweden
polopolak 1 year ago 18
swedes took the high road, and came out on the record with the truth about tragic events of past era.
MuzBuff 1 year ago 19
all turks can get to their homeland, Altaisk, where they came from, we the Civilized World don't need turkish cockroaches on our Civilized Lands!!!
Gagikangelo 1 year ago 15
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Get the fuck out of here you ermeni gypsy.
Genchmen 1 year ago
you are presenting yourself as bastard of Ermeni, and you are a slave, worthless cockroach to waste my time on you!
Sikim turklar gypsy ataturkgay getveranogli!
Gagikangelo 1 year ago
I praise the swedish parliament on recognizing what was genocide
beanersss 1 year ago 23
Way to go! ;-)
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago 17
Tank you Swedeeeeeeeeeees!
HayordiPU 1 year ago 15
@HayordiPU Your welcome, im a big supporter of your cause.
zio5q 1 year ago 12
THANK YOU SWEDEN, THANK YOU SWEDES.
nhraim 1 year ago 12
Турки (те, кто отрицает правду), собирайте всех послов (с родней и друзьями) и уматывайте из Европы и всего цивил.мира в Анкару.
EdoMilanian 1 year ago
klassno skazal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! molodetz!!!
HayaLiliana 1 year ago 9
Forza Tre Krunur!!!!!!
EdoMilanian 1 year ago
thanks to you, man!!!
armenstepanyan 1 year ago 4
Hurra, äntligen!!
Smurfdaddyh 1 year ago 4