If you had any brains you would know that the Irish invaded, and subsequently ruled, what is today known as great Britain if your going to use such a condescending tone atleast make sure your correct first. Retard.
@mcateerio I've just noticed your comment,I must've been busy at the time or I'd surely have contradicted your vertion of history. Please, prove your theories,I can find no historical evidence to back it up, I'm always open to new ideas though,LMFAO!
I'm confused, "can you see a happy hun"? All i can see is blurred police men. Then again, you'se are good at hiding behind then when it suits, then shooting them in the back!
And i think you are gettin mixed up here, Catholics and celtic fans are really confused about where they are from. More tri colours than there are saltires.
Really you got everything in that pathetic comment wrong.
And the best thing is, your day will never come, Who got buired in a pencil case, Bobby, Bobby haha
when a jamaican migrates to london, their children are still jamaican as long as they remember where they came from.
pakistanis are pakistani
scots are scots
so when the uk government uses one of its islands as a land to leach from like a parasite and then its inhabitants are forced to leave because they need to feed their family, they are not confused, waving flags representing a union free from the bigotry of the ibrox stand.
and dont forget that scotland was formed by an irish kingdom, and that they gave the scots their language. remember that all of the scottish people in glasgow and all of scotland are all descended from someone irish.
Really if your going to get technical we all came from africa and people still project racist hatred towards the blacks, myself, my name is either south african or french. And if you are trying to tell me that the bigoted deluded hald-breeds over in the paedo-dome fly tri colours for "their native lands" then you are pissin in the wind.
Majority of us talk english anyways same as yourself, all i'm saying is that if you love ireland so much, and sing about it and all that shite, live there.
people cant just move to where they like, leaving friends and family and such, if all the irish descendents moved back then the island would be overcrowded with 80 million. dont forget all the rangers wearing red hand tattoos ulster flags and northern ireland flags as well as uvf symbols.
and dont forget all those rangers fans who dont go to church, or pray but say they are protestant. if they love that religious bullcrap then go pray in a church.
@robin22391 Scotland was formed by an Irish kindom?What piece of vatican/republican inspired misinformation rag did you read that in?Probably the same one that preaches the lies of a superior celtic master race who,though they and their great grannies were born in the USA or Australia, think that they are Irish! It's bigoted thick potato depraved people like yourself that make protestants hate you!
Wow, I'm completely overawed at the wit, intelligence and stunning originality in evidence on this comments page! I feel completely out my league! Meanwhile, I hope to fuck celtic and rangers get out of ours!
you again you stupid fucker[ 1 in a row ] i fucking said the other day you where the dumbest cunt i have ever came across on y.t and this just proves it ,,,,,,,1 IN A ROW LIKE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Roman Cardinal Manning said: "The Catholic Church is either the masterpiece of Satan or the Kingdom of the Son of God."
Cardinal Newman acknowledged: "If not divinely appointed, it is doctrinally the essence of antichrist."
These two high ranking and noted Romans have stripped bare the issue. Read again and ponder the example claims of the various Popes and answer the issue for yourself.
God said: "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another" (Isaiah 42:8)
Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled by spirit or word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thessalonians 2:2-4)
The title "Lord God the Pope" - these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome. "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)
Muslim friends of mine, (Arabs), are as gobsmacked as I am at repeated roman claims of their pope being god.
I assume that roman congregations "enjoy" a misplaced feeling of superiority from it..
The RC New York catechism states: "The Pope takes the place of Christ on earth. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians, the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth."
So ex-Nazi Joe Ratzinger's now God - roman's are simply amazing...
Pope Nicholas said of himself: "I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do. Wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods.
More from your blasphemous roman ancestors, your "church," is corrupt:
The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth." (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)
Yes, "another God on Earth," what truly shameful roman-diatribe?
"I'm afraid you've lost sight of the main objective"
You mean YOUR main objective - which is for as long as your sad human body breathes air, you will waste your life trying to discredit my Church.
No, my objective here was to partake in a general discussion - some things we would agree on, some things we wouldn't. That's how I set out anyway. I cannot tell you how much pity I have towards you - what a sad excuse for a (so-called) Christian.
"Your continued homosexual endeavours toward me are a waste of time, so I suggest you procure a roman male to get funky with, as I'm simply not interested."
Oh dear - yet another at of denial from the bigot. I have no endeavours towards you - God help any person man or woman who does. They'd be treated to quotes from your bigot book during foreplay
I am asking you what GOD'S WORD is regarding homosexuality. It's in the Bible is it not? Why are you afraid to quote it? You're good at quotes!!!
I'm afraid you've lost sight of the main objective - establishing the falsehoods of rome, following your ridiculous claim that there aren't any.
My claims are easily researchable, within the public domain, and not at all hard to find coroborating evidence for, it's not for me to deliver by hand an affidavit.
Your continued homosexual endeavours toward me are a waste of time, so I suggest you procure a roman male to get funky with, as I'm simply not interested.
Any quote you make, you do understand, will have to be backed up by a reliable source (I am still waiting on the proof of the words from the two Cardinals) or it will merely be written off as a quote from another over zealous anti-Catholic bigot just like yourself. No offence.
You sound like a robot, with automatic anti-Catholic function enabled. It must be a right laugh in your house.
Anyway - the question about homosexuality and what Church you were baptised into please.
Our thoughts go back to that great event fifty years ago by which your Holiness was taken from amongst men and appointed for men in the things that pertain to God, was made a minister of Christ and a dispenser of His mysteries, received power over the real and mystical body of our Saviour and became a mediator between God and man - another Christ."
"We the Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, prostrate at the feet of your Holiness, humbly offer you our warmest congratulations on the occasion of the Golden Jubilee of your ordination to the priesthood."
If ever there was a person who invented lies in order to counter them, I have just met that person.
What utter nonsense you have just posted. Your bigoted and over zealous crusade against my Church and my faith will begin and end with you my friend, for it will not affect me or my Church but it is affecting the way you think and act out your life.
"What say you Mr. roman?"
I honestly think you ought to seek help, Mr Bigot.
Lies eh? Well, allow me to quote your Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, then we'll move on to the quite appalling claims from a number of blasphemous pope's.
God said: "I am the LORD, that is my name, and my glory will I not give to another." (Isaiah 42:8)
Yet many blasphemous romans have claimed to be God on earth, and to have as much power as Him etc - what type of mere mortal would make such absurd claims? And what type of person would be foolish enough to idolize and follow them?
The obvious answer's one who partakes in the debauchery of the roman mass, and feels duty bound to say prayers to saints and angels.
We are not at liberty to take upon ourselves what is not commanded in the word of God, especially when such contravenes Bible teaching that Christ alone is our Mediator and way to the Father. That the angels are aware of sinners repenting (not doing penance - a mistranslation) is a far cry from the Roman doctrine being propagated here. If the glorified knew our sufferings, would their joy not be dampened?
We are not to seek or pray to the dead. King Saul was judged when he did so (1 Sam 28:7-8)
You've correctly labelled me a Protestant Christian more than once, so your constant sect thing's a bit silly really.
Yesterday, you stated: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me," (actually - I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6).
This accepted, why are you praying to Saints and Angels?
No you have not - you are judgemental, a bigot and a hypocrite. A bigot because you only see faults in Catholicism and a hypocrite because you refuse to see the faults in Protestantism.
You refuse to acknowledge the vast world out there with many different faiths (and none) and simply focus on being anti-Catholic. It is an appalling attitude to have and to be quite honest, anything but Christian.
When did I plea guilty? Another example of hearing what you WANT to hear. However, I accept a plea on your behalf of senile dementia - memory loss can be quite useful mind you - I was actually beginning to think you were a member of the Westboro Baptist Church - you would fit right in there. They, like you, shout loud about the [alleged] faults of others and refuse to deal with their own failings.
Judgement day? Maybe God will judge you the way YOU judge others. Let he without sin .......
I've merely tried to reach out to you, as I honestly believe you've been misled by people who historically, have been downright dishonest.
All I ask is that you allow the scriptures to be your guide, and simply do not accept the word of your roman priest as the word of God, as it simply is not.
Although, (amongst other things), you've doubted the word of two roman cardinals, and refused to obey The Holy Bible's unequivocal request not to drink blood, so appear to be in the wilderness.
Anyone, can take a passage, a quote or scripture and twist it to suit their meaning. Something you and people like you do very well.
That is why, when quoting scripture or words from Cardinals in order to make a point, it is meaningless because it is your INTERPRETATION of things and you will never convince me otherwise and my Church has stood the test of time and will continue to do so. That must annoy you - for you have clearly worked hard at being an anti-Catholic.
I accept your plea of guilty, won't stand you in good stead come judgement day though will it?
My sect? I don't belong to one, I'm as you stated earlier, a wide-awake Protestant, proudly showing my back to your reprobate friend's in rome in protest at their continued nonsense.
"The New Testament gives no instruction as to how to offer mass, and in fact there is not so much as one line on the subject in Scripture! Christ sent the apostles to teach and to baptize, not to say mass."
So what do you say about reformed Church services, Orthodox services and especially the CoE service which has been compared to be very similar to the Roman Catholic Mass?
Have you anything to say about them? What does The New Testament say about reformed services?
"Cardinals Cajetan and Bellarmine confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but the word of rome"
Well that is your opinion and your belief and neither do I care about. You have mentioned these men already and even if they did say what you suggest, it means nothing for you are merely expressing their opinion.
"Christ cannot be physically in two places at one time, or else He did not have a real human body, which denies His all important humanity."
So the man who was able to turn water into wine, cure the blind man, raise Lazarus from the dead, feed the 5000 with fives loaves and 2 fish and rise from the dead was not able to turn the bread and wine into body and blood? On one hand he is the messiah, the son of God but when using him to attack the Roman Catholic Church - he is merely human? Good God!
It staggers the imagination to realise that a merely human pantomime, so absurd and so contradictory to Holy Scripture, could be accepted and slavishly attended day after day and week after week by thinking men and women.
The New Testament gives no instruction as to how to offer mass, and in fact there is not so much as one line on the subject in Scripture! Christ sent the apostles to teach and to baptize, not to say mass.
The Bible expressly forbids the eating or drinking of blood. NT: "For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well." (Acts 15:28-29).
Cardinals Cajetan and Bellarmine confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but the word of rome.
The roman mass denies our senses since the bread still looks, smells, tastes and feels like bread.
Luke speaks of the senses as furnishing infallible proofs (Luke 1:3) Christ Himself appealed to the senses:"Handle me and see" (Luke 24:39)
In the only case of true transubstantiation in the NT - wedding feast at Canaan where the water was turned into wine - the senses were appealed to particularly the richness of the taste.
(1 Corinthians 11:26) Surely if the roman mass is right, then He is come already? If sohas every eye seen Him and the earth wailed because of Him? (Revelation 1:7)
The roman mass wafer even when transubstantiated into the body of Christ (snigger) soon corrupts.
This is contrary to Psalm16:9-11 (quoted in Acts 2:27) which declares that His body would not see corruption.
Did Christ have two bodies in the Upper Room? The one body breaking and distributing the other?
Was one body being offered up as a sacrifice that night and the other offered up the next?
The purpose of the Lords death is given in 1 Corinthians 11:26 i.e. to show forth the Lords death. The word translated "show forth" is translated as "preach" elsewhere. By contrast the mass is a virtual re-enactment of the Lords death.
The grammar bears the symbolic sense also. Illustration: You produce a photograph and say, "This is my friend." You point at an outline on a map and say, "This is Ireland." It is not really, actually what you said it was. It is a representation. Likewise when the Bible says: "Issachar is a strong ass couching down between two burdens." (Genesis 49:14) or "I am the door" (John 10:9) then, we understand it figuratively.
The Lords Passover (when the feast was instituted) was itself symbolic. The words of Moses: It (i.e. the lamb) is the Lords Passover. No Jew was so irrational as to think that the lamb was transubstantiated into the Lord passing over the houses of the Israelites.
The Passover was a figurative feast - likewise the supper which replaced it: "This is my body etc.,"
If Christ is actually physically present in the roman's bread & wine, then we cannot remember Him as He has bid us to do. You cannot remember one who is actually physically there. You can remember one who is not physically there but who has left tokens that remind us of him.
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Christ cannot be physically in two places at one time, or else He did not have a real human body, which denies His all important humanity. The words of institution (Matthew 26:26-28) are evidently figurative. The Bible uses the word "is" figuratively elsewhere: Matthew 13:38/Genesis 49:14 etc. To eat the literal body and drink the literal blood of Christ is, by definition, cannibalism. No man has the power to create his Creator, as claimed by the priest of Rome.
"If your faith really is built around the word of Jesus, (and not rome) ...... "
Are you really so bigoted? If the word of Rome was not the word of Jesus, where did the non-Catholic churches get their words from some 1500 years later? Everything you have, you took from us and changed it to suit yourself. Never forget that.
Can I ask again - what sect / denomination do you belong to? Do you actually belong to a reformed Church - or is your religion "anti-Catholic?"
Can we stick to currect issues? The two current issues are the word of God re:
a) your roman mass
b) your salvation
Please stop going off on a tangent regarding alleged bigotry and outlandish accusations of Protestants corrupting something belonging to romans to suit themselves - I'll will return to this theme though - as we Protestants gave Europe the bible that romans corrupted and then sought to deny the congregation!
"I invited you to debate significant items of your romanism, inititially your mass - you refused."
I didn't refuse - I pointed out to you that Transubstantiation is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic Church - yet you completely ignored that point as if it it hadn't been said. So why debate?
"Recently, I made a statement regarding the falsehoods and superstitions of rome, you replied that there weren't any"
WRONG: I said you have no evidence of so-called "falsehoods and superstitions of Rome" you simply have a belief, a belief that I couldn't care less about. My faith is built upon the word of Jesus. Your faith appears to be built upon discrediting the Roman Catholic Church. You speak more about my faith than your own!!! Sad or what?
"Take this all of you and eat it. This is my Body which will be given up for you. Take this all of you and drink from it, this is the cup of my blood. It will be shed for you and for all men so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me" - The last supper / Mass
b) John 14:5-6
"5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?"
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
For the sake of clarity and brevity, I will quote the Catechism of Christian Doctrine published by the Catholic Truth Society, which carries the imprimatur of the so called church of rome.
It is a fact that the church of rome IS NOT the church of God, its teaching's contradict those of the holy scriptures, its placing of its own tradition's and superstition's above the holy scriptures, and its placing of mere mortals on par with God, are to be frowned upon and condemned by anyone sane.
The Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ, together with his soul and divinity, under the appearances of bread and wine, which are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ by the power of God, to whom nothing is impossible.
The bread and wine are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ when the words of consecration, ordained by Christ, are pronounced by the priest. The Blessed Eucharist is not a Sacrament only: it is also a sacrifice.
A sacrifice is the offering up of a victim by a priest to God alone, in testimony to his being the Sovereign Lord of all things.
The Holy Mass is the Sacrifice of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, really present on the altar under the appearances of bread and wine, and offered to God for the living and the dead.
The Holy Mass is the one and same sacrifice with that of the Cross, inasmuch as Christ, who offered himself a bleeding victim, on the Cross to his heavenly Father (contd):
- continues to offer himself in an unbloody manner on the altar, through the ministry of his priests.
The Sacrifice of the Mass is offered for four ends: first, to give supreme honour and glory to God: secondly, to thank him for all our benefits: thirdly to satisfy God for our sins and to obtain the grace of repentance: and fourthly, to obtain all other graces and blessings through Jesus Christ.
The sacrifice of Jesus Christ was once and for all time and was offered in the past. ie He is now seated at God's right hand, and not being sacrificed on the Roman altars.
His sacrifice is associated with His humiliation (Philippians 2:5-8)
His being at God's right hand (Hebrews 1:2) is associated with His glory (Philippians 2:9-11)
He cannot be humiliated and glorified at one and the same time.
One thing is impossible to God (Cp Q267 above)He cannot deny Himself (2 Timothy 2:13)
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. (2 Corinthians 5:16)For from Israel was it also: the workman made it; therefore it is not God: but the calf of Samaria shall be broken in pieces. (Hosea 8:6)
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:30)
The trash in the video, are mislead to believe their salvation depends on the work they do, (chortle). So, will their clearly sectarianiast endeavour's help them along the way?
More anti-Catholic claptrap. It appears your whole sad existence depends on an unhealthy obsession with my Church. I am actually beginning to feel sorry for you now. The only trash here is yourself, who have judged the people in this video to be of a certain faith (purely to have a dig at my Church), when you know nothing about them. Not very Christian is it? And how the hell is anything in that video "sectarian"? And still waiting to find out what non-Catholic sect you belong to. If any.
Recently, I made a statement regarding the falsehoods and superstitions of rome, you replied that there weren't any - and that I was basically a Protestant toerag.
I invited you to debate significant items of your romanism, inititially your mass - you refused.
I've now simply moved onto one's salvation, your answer is yet again more evasive drivel, so just tell me, how you envisage salvation for yourself, and the thuggish, deluded romans featured herein - it can't be that hard surely?
Silence? Although I'm not surprised. But what sayeth cardinals cajetan and bellarmine on your mass? Both expressly confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but received from the Church. Oh dear, a foundationless roman falsehood after all - but who in their right mind would canibalise Jesus Christ? A man whose death saved us, yet is resurected by a roman priest for human consumption? We worship Jesus in spirit alone, no roman priest resurects him.
Silence just because i'm not on here as often as you? So you are using the word of two RC cardinals as your evidence! (Just where you got this evidence from & how authentic it is, is another matter). You'll use quotes from friends or foe's; from the devil himself probably if it fed your diet of Catholic bashing. Transubstantiation is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic Church, but don't let that stand in your way. Like many like you, you care more about being anti-Catholic than Protestant.
I have no problem with you, or any other roman catholic per se, and would treat you respectfully in public. I do however have a problem with the people and organisation that I believe has mislead you, and hoodwinked you into believing in falsehoods.
History and common sense does them no favours, and I would like you and more besides you to turn your back on them.
When in the Dail in 1943, Oliver J. Flanagan praised Hitler for ridding Germany of Jews claiming, "I doubt very much if they are human!", he was not challenged by any other member. Later in a speech to the Dail he said "There is one thing that Germany did and that was to rout the Jews out of their country. Until we rout the Jews out of this country it does not matter a hair's breadth what orders you make.
In summary, irish republicans are closer to "Huns" than any Brit or Ulster-Scot is!
ulsterplatoon is a fucking retard and a stinkin hun cunt. When you say Ulster are you referring to one of the four provinces of Ireland that like tsu921 says has a Catholic majority? Away back to scotland on your plantation boat ya fucking special needs cunt. Up the RA.
While Rangers fans were busy killing huns in WWII, lowly-celts were busy courting them in lowly ROI. Just look at the monuments erected in their honour in and around dublin. History dictates the Nazis had allies in ROI, not Northern Ireland & UK. All that canabilism at your roman mass has left you with vCJD...
Hay Arai64 - History dictates the monarchy you tug the forlock to are from German descent and that they would have been spared in the event of a Nazi victory, due to their "connections" in the Fatherland. Please spare us the "we fought the Huns" shite - you bow down to them ya muppet.
P.S. You ignorant bastard - many Celtic fans, Rangers fans and fans of many other clubs and people of all faiths, fought together in WW2. Only Hun Rangers fans try to take all the credit for themselves.
History does indeed dictate their majestic descent, through the respective houses of Hanover, Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, and Windsor, none of whom were afflicted by the falsehoods and superstitions of Rome. Your generalization, is that ALL Germans, Austrians, and Scandinavians are bad, which, like you, is ridiculous.
Your claim that the British Royal Family would have been spared by the Nazis because of their "connections" in the fatherland, is without foundation, just like your roman catholicism.
"The Falsehoods of Rome" ..... oh yes, did your master tell you to utter these words or do you genuinely believe them for yourself? Windsor was not affected by Rome? Hmm, as the head of the Church, tell me about Windsor and their attitudes about homosexuality. Why is the Queen's church almost about to split in two over gay bishops? Where is the "head of the Church" and her direction in all of this? What is her direction? There is none. And you say my Church is false? God help you.
My Master, (God), through his Son, Jesus Christ, leads me to utter these words, and yes, I genuinely believe them, as the word of Rome, contrasts with the word of God, (The Scriptures).
Let us start with your Roman Mass, tell us about it, the physical actions, their significance, why it's necessary, it's origin, etc, perhaps even where it's referred to within the scriptures. There's much more besides, but let's start here.
The word of Rome contrasts from the scriptures? Where exactly did you get your scriptures from? Did you find them in a box somewhere or perhaps were they taken from my Church and altered to suit yourself? Plus - I don't need to go into the entire Mass because I don't need to justify it (not enough words allowed here anyway). If there is a particular area you wish to debate, go for it. And there is very little difference between a Catholic service and an CoE service so you may want to debate both
Oh what a surprise, a deluded roman so afraid of being exposed as a believer in falsehoods, and a peddler of clap-trap, now hides behind feeble excuses.
You can fill as many of the 500 word boxes as is necessary to satisfy my reasonable request for further clarity regarding your roman-mass.
You can even provide us all with a laugh, and use your Latin vulgate "bible," a corruption of the scriptures by your saint jerome some 400 years after Christ's death - give it a go as I've more to ask.
The typical rhetoric from a Protestant to be honest - using half truths and lies in order to paint a black picture of the Catholic Church and going back to 400AD no less. If you couldn't find fault in my Church, there would be no justification for having yours would there? Where did you get your word of God from? You spend more time trying to pick fault with my Church - you would be better advised to deal with your own serious errors today rather than focus on alleged errors in 400 AD
No I didn't forget - ask me a specific question and i'll do my best to answer. Once again though, wouldn't you be better off dealing with the issues in your own Church instead of worrying about mine? Whatever your opinion is of the Mass - it is merely that; an opinion. And erm, your holy book, your scriptures - where did you get them from?
Let us start with your Roman Mass, tell us about it, the physical actions, their significance, why it's necessary, it's origin, etc, perhaps even where it's referred to within the scriptures. =======
===are these questions relating to one thing specific enough? I'll answer all yours in due course, but let's get this one of mine out of the way first.
Considering the British Royal Family did not evacuate Buckingham Palace, and that it was bombed nine times in WWII, any notion of there being "connections" between London and Berlin can be dismissed.
Regarding your muli-faith British Army claim, I agree. However, these troops were from Great Britian & Northern Ireland, apart from a tiny number of volunteers from ROI, sickened by their shameful republic's allegiance with Nazi Germany, whom I might add, were sneered at upon their return to ROI.
Their Romanist short-comings aside, the aforementioned were well aware of Hitler's final sollution to The Jews, yet continued their support.
The ROI, hiding behind a pretence of neutrality, supplied men to train and serve with the Nazis. From lighting fires to guide in Hitler's bombers to Belfast, to re-fuelling his u-boats and more beside, Hitler could always count on the ROI
The Pope did not support Hitler - he just did not stand up against him for he knew the consequences. He later stated he wished he had spoken out. Also if there is a right wing element to Ireland, it is no different from many other countries including UK. But you conveniently miss out the many people from Ireland who fought against the Nazis, not only in WW2 but in the Spanish civil war against Franco.
What pitiful conjecture? Your pope didn't speak out as he (and his cohorts) were all for Hitler and his Nazi's, moreover, their action's.
Hitler was put into power by them, Ludwig Kaas, Wlodimir Ledochowski, and others in the roman church manipulated Adolf into power.
Your current pope (apparently infallible) is none other than Joe Ratzinger, ex Hitler Youth. Your religion's a complete joke, demanding belief in unfounded rubbish that it simply made up.
And considering the British treated Ireland and many Irishmen and women with as much contempt as Hitler did to the Jews, I don't think Irishmen ever supported Hitler or his ideals - more of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
It is clear that Eamon de Valera was sympathetic to the Nazi slaughter of Jews, and still willing to be open about it when it was clear that there would be no comeback for Nazi Germany and no united Ireland on the back of an axis victory and the bayonets of the SS. It is interesting to note that de Valera's visit was publicly applauded in the Irish press by Irish republican supporting literary gem, George Bernard Shaw.
Not forgetting Eoin O'Duffy (the Irish Fuhrer) and leader of the 100000 strong fascist Blueshirts. His organisation echoed Hitler's SA movement and based its marches, flags and salutes (Hail, O'Duffy) on those in use in Nazi Germany.
During WW II, O'Duffy took a great interest in Nazism with which his now Peoples National Party was closely aligned. He even went to the extent of sending an offer to Hitler saying that he would raise a "Green Legion" of Irishmen to fight on the Russian front.
As a Nazi collaborator, O' Duffy spent time in Germany discussing with the Nazis in true Irish Republican fashion precisely what he could do to assist in Hitler's campaign against Britain. This 'Green Duce' that had modelled himself on Mussolini and supported Hitler died peacefully in 1944 and was buried with a state funeral in Glasnevin cemetry in Dublin, alongide other heroes of Irish Republicanism such as Daniel O'Connell, Roger Casement and O'Duffy's former comrade Michael Collins
This not the only manifestation of ROI sympathy for Nazism which led to them being rebuffed by the USA, that prevented them for Marshal Aid, and delayed their entrance into the United Nations until 1957. During the War officials of the ROI were outrageous in their racist anti-Semitism which was openly tolerated by the Roman Catholic hierarchy and common currency in Irish society. Indeed Hitler's racial criteria for keeping out the Jew were still being used in Eire 8 years after Hitler's death.
Videos of Rangers' matches are now banned as torture materials under the Genevea Convention. No sane human would survive being put through such abject misery and it is the UN's opinion that no live coverage of Rangers' matches be allowed on air due to the demonically boring elements.
Father, Father I must confess I left some wee fucker in a hell of a mess his teeth were all broken and his face was all smashed but thats wht he gets for singin' the sash.
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When I was a young boy living in Glasgow's East End, a creepy preest approached me and said "Son..can I help you?".. I replied "Fuck off ya Fenien Bastard" Result? I am now a proud PRODDY with my arse intact. Big Jock let us ALL down. (BJK, PPWAI) Big Jock Knew, Proud Proddy With Arse Intact.
Sorry everyone I was high on smack when i made that post, it was actually Richard Gough who approached me then fucked me up the arse, I said "Thanks Richard can you do me again, I like that" I am now a proud gay loyalist faggot, I do a lot of business at Ibrox, its full of pedophiles and gayboys, Big Jock was a great man and knew nothing. Proud Proddy With Arse totally busted open. All welcome blowjobs my speciality.
we'll see awrite m8y... hawd oan the noo tae a rattle these beads... rite, yer unions gone. ye cannae see it yet, but its gone. welcome tae the republic of britain. how does that sound big yin ;)
Your day will come alrite buddy... but not your country. The power of the Union is stronger than you think. If it was up to your kind we would be running around in mud huts, pumpin yer sister whilst yer father eggs you on from the cellar!
3 IN A ROW. 54 & COUNTING. SUBO & THE BOY DAVID HAVE SEASON TICKETS FOR TORBETT TOWERS.
gabotheblue 7 months ago
@Muv1912
If you had any brains you would know that the Irish invaded, and subsequently ruled, what is today known as great Britain if your going to use such a condescending tone atleast make sure your correct first. Retard.
mcateerio 9 months ago
@mcateerio I've just noticed your comment,I must've been busy at the time or I'd surely have contradicted your vertion of history. Please, prove your theories,I can find no historical evidence to back it up, I'm always open to new ideas though,LMFAO!
muv1912 4 months ago
@muv1912 you=dry your eyes your team is pish
4YaPloNo1 10 months ago
I'm confused, "can you see a happy hun"? All i can see is blurred police men. Then again, you'se are good at hiding behind then when it suits, then shooting them in the back!
muv1912 1 year ago
@muv1912 happy=handsome
4YaPloNo1 11 months ago
@4YaPloNo1 you=wee brown arsehole!
muv1912 10 months ago
handsome hun ahahaha look in the mirror ya big fat Ironic brain dead taigs
davidronaldp 1 year ago
Not having a laff this weather, are you fenians, come over to my place,we're having a party
TheGorbals 1 year ago
@TheGorbals come on over to my place, hey hey we/re havin a party!
BobLawless 1 year ago
@BobLawless We'll be havin a party tomorrow, No fuckin Surrender
TheGorbals 1 year ago
@TheGorbals 53 and counting buddy!
BobLawless 1 year ago
Where's Wally?NO
Where's Rangers?YES
1 in a row my arse Prodesants don't even know what country their from lolololololololololol
TIOCFAIDH `AR LA!!!!
HALO3FAN4EVR 1 year ago
@HALO3FAN4EVR
Wheres the trophy going? IBROX.
Wheres mowbray statyin? Parkhead.
2 in a row, i think so.
How more to go, well its hard to say.
PROTESTANTS.
And i think you are gettin mixed up here, Catholics and celtic fans are really confused about where they are from. More tri colours than there are saltires.
Really you got everything in that pathetic comment wrong.
And the best thing is, your day will never come, Who got buired in a pencil case, Bobby, Bobby haha
Ally216Uvf 1 year ago
@Ally216Uvf
confused about where they came from, how?
when a jamaican migrates to london, their children are still jamaican as long as they remember where they came from.
pakistanis are pakistani
scots are scots
so when the uk government uses one of its islands as a land to leach from like a parasite and then its inhabitants are forced to leave because they need to feed their family, they are not confused, waving flags representing a union free from the bigotry of the ibrox stand.
robin22391 1 year ago
@Ally216Uvf
the flag represents peace between religions
and dont forget that scotland was formed by an irish kingdom, and that they gave the scots their language. remember that all of the scottish people in glasgow and all of scotland are all descended from someone irish.
robin22391 1 year ago
Really if your going to get technical we all came from africa and people still project racist hatred towards the blacks, myself, my name is either south african or french. And if you are trying to tell me that the bigoted deluded hald-breeds over in the paedo-dome fly tri colours for "their native lands" then you are pissin in the wind.
Majority of us talk english anyways same as yourself, all i'm saying is that if you love ireland so much, and sing about it and all that shite, live there.
Ally216Uvf 1 year ago
@Ally216Uvf
people cant just move to where they like, leaving friends and family and such, if all the irish descendents moved back then the island would be overcrowded with 80 million. dont forget all the rangers wearing red hand tattoos ulster flags and northern ireland flags as well as uvf symbols.
and dont forget all those rangers fans who dont go to church, or pray but say they are protestant. if they love that religious bullcrap then go pray in a church.
its the same idea.
robin22391 1 year ago
@robin22391 Scotland was formed by an Irish kindom?What piece of vatican/republican inspired misinformation rag did you read that in?Probably the same one that preaches the lies of a superior celtic master race who,though they and their great grannies were born in the USA or Australia, think that they are Irish! It's bigoted thick potato depraved people like yourself that make protestants hate you!
muv1912 10 months ago
@muv1912 I'm a Protestant and i can wear a condom ! Beat that !
poulsontheprick 5 months ago
@poulsontheprick your point?
muv1912 4 months ago
@muv1912 Man! I'm only messin' ! I'm off to watch The Wind that Shakes the Barley .Hail! Hail!
poulsontheprick 4 months ago
@poulsontheprick Ithink you've drank too much barley
muv1912 4 months ago
Idiots.
MegaLol54 2 years ago
Wow, I'm completely overawed at the wit, intelligence and stunning originality in evidence on this comments page! I feel completely out my league! Meanwhile, I hope to fuck celtic and rangers get out of ours!
GGTTH
strengthisfreedom 2 years ago
tiocfaidh ar la
calBHA1 2 years ago
How times have changed fae this day scumtic, get it up and round yez fae last sunday tae you ignorant plastic paddy monkey fucks :-)
19frazz 2 years ago
Hahahahahaha 1 in a row makes me laugh lol . it sounds so fucking shite and pathetic
aidzocfc 2 years ago
(get it roung yi ) are u meaning tae be a mongo r wit or is it just protestant education? yiv made a cunt of every comment.
scottybrown1888 2 years ago
hahahahah no tims in champions league
HAHAH THATS RIGHT GUYS COME ON CHAMPS
1 IN A ROW
FUCK THE TIMS
spikeyalan 2 years ago
1 in a row. lol protestant schools fur yi
scottybrown1888 2 years ago 2
shut ya prick
remember who the champs are ya fud
spikeyalan 2 years ago
(1 in a row) Shut ya prick) the blunders just keep coming. Want an english lesson ya retard, wit age ur yi 6 ?
scottybrown1888 2 years ago 2
hahahha english lesson shut it ya dafty
how pish were ure team last yesssssssssssssss get it roung ye
spikeyalan 2 years ago
you again you stupid fucker[ 1 in a row ] i fucking said the other day you where the dumbest cunt i have ever came across on y.t and this just proves it ,,,,,,,1 IN A ROW LIKE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
skullywag999 2 years ago
hahahhahhahah shut up ya dafty
champions champions hahahah
celtic got fucked last night hahahah
spikeyalan 2 years ago
back to school for you ya daft cunt,,, 1 in a row wait til i tell the pals about this one lolololo
skullywag999 2 years ago
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Arai64 2 years ago
PISS OFF ARIA64 YOU BAM
TR1PACE5 2 years ago
Roman Cardinal Manning said: "The Catholic Church is either the masterpiece of Satan or the Kingdom of the Son of God."
Cardinal Newman acknowledged: "If not divinely appointed, it is doctrinally the essence of antichrist."
These two high ranking and noted Romans have stripped bare the issue. Read again and ponder the example claims of the various Popes and answer the issue for yourself.
God said: "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another" (Isaiah 42:8)
Arai64 2 years ago
don't worry bout it there probably isn't any god anyway so what's it matter what some book says
francisfinn1980 2 years ago
wots religion got 2 do wi football ya twatbag
theoldkk 2 years ago
The Bible states:
Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled by spirit or word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." (2 Thessalonians 2:2-4)
Arai64 2 years ago
The title "Lord God the Pope" - these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome. "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)
Muslim friends of mine, (Arabs), are as gobsmacked as I am at repeated roman claims of their pope being god.
I assume that roman congregations "enjoy" a misplaced feeling of superiority from it..
Arai64 2 years ago
The RC New York catechism states: "The Pope takes the place of Christ on earth. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians, the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth."
So ex-Nazi Joe Ratzinger's now God - roman's are simply amazing...
Arai64 2 years ago
Pope Nicholas said of himself: "I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do. Wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods.
(Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661) - deluded roman!
Arai64 2 years ago
More from your blasphemous roman ancestors, your "church," is corrupt:
The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth." (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)
Yes, "another God on Earth," what truly shameful roman-diatribe?
Arai64 2 years ago
1) What does God say about homosexuality?
2) Into what Protestant Church were you baptised?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"I'm afraid you've lost sight of the main objective"
You mean YOUR main objective - which is for as long as your sad human body breathes air, you will waste your life trying to discredit my Church.
No, my objective here was to partake in a general discussion - some things we would agree on, some things we wouldn't. That's how I set out anyway. I cannot tell you how much pity I have towards you - what a sad excuse for a (so-called) Christian.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"Your continued homosexual endeavours toward me are a waste of time, so I suggest you procure a roman male to get funky with, as I'm simply not interested."
Oh dear - yet another at of denial from the bigot. I have no endeavours towards you - God help any person man or woman who does. They'd be treated to quotes from your bigot book during foreplay
I am asking you what GOD'S WORD is regarding homosexuality. It's in the Bible is it not? Why are you afraid to quote it? You're good at quotes!!!
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote:
"We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law.
Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God.
For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God."
(1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c.3)
100% outrageous roman-blasphemy!
Arai64 2 years ago
I'm afraid you've lost sight of the main objective - establishing the falsehoods of rome, following your ridiculous claim that there aren't any.
My claims are easily researchable, within the public domain, and not at all hard to find coroborating evidence for, it's not for me to deliver by hand an affidavit.
Your continued homosexual endeavours toward me are a waste of time, so I suggest you procure a roman male to get funky with, as I'm simply not interested.
Back to your blasphemous popes:-
Arai64 2 years ago
Any quote you make, you do understand, will have to be backed up by a reliable source (I am still waiting on the proof of the words from the two Cardinals) or it will merely be written off as a quote from another over zealous anti-Catholic bigot just like yourself. No offence.
You sound like a robot, with automatic anti-Catholic function enabled. It must be a right laugh in your house.
Anyway - the question about homosexuality and what Church you were baptised into please.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"Lies eh? Well, allow me to quote your Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, then we'll move on ........ "
Yes let's move on and if I may, return to a question I asked you earlier (that you deliberately avoided)
What does God say about homosexuality?
And a new question:
Into what Protestant Church were you baptised?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Contd:
Our thoughts go back to that great event fifty years ago by which your Holiness was taken from amongst men and appointed for men in the things that pertain to God, was made a minister of Christ and a dispenser of His mysteries, received power over the real and mystical body of our Saviour and became a mediator between God and man - another Christ."
Address to Pope Pius Xll in 1949
And just to repeat that, "another Christ."
Outrageous!
Arai64 2 years ago
"We the Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, prostrate at the feet of your Holiness, humbly offer you our warmest congratulations on the occasion of the Golden Jubilee of your ordination to the priesthood."
Arai64 2 years ago
If ever there was a person who invented lies in order to counter them, I have just met that person.
What utter nonsense you have just posted. Your bigoted and over zealous crusade against my Church and my faith will begin and end with you my friend, for it will not affect me or my Church but it is affecting the way you think and act out your life.
"What say you Mr. roman?"
I honestly think you ought to seek help, Mr Bigot.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Lies eh? Well, allow me to quote your Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland, then we'll move on to the quite appalling claims from a number of blasphemous pope's.
Arai64 2 years ago
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MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
God said: "I am the LORD, that is my name, and my glory will I not give to another." (Isaiah 42:8)
Yet many blasphemous romans have claimed to be God on earth, and to have as much power as Him etc - what type of mere mortal would make such absurd claims? And what type of person would be foolish enough to idolize and follow them?
The obvious answer's one who partakes in the debauchery of the roman mass, and feels duty bound to say prayers to saints and angels.
What say you Mr. roman?
Arai64 2 years ago
"If the glorified knew our sufferings, would their joy not be dampened?"
That is a very human way of thinking, not God's way of thinking.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"We are not at liberty to take upon ourselves what is not commanded in the word of God, especially when such contravenes Bible teaching"
What does God say about homosexuality?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
We're off on a bit of a tangent aren't we?
In the midst of alking about your misplaced prayers to saints then straight onto irons?
Don't tell me you start feeling this way after midnight, or it'll be the roman-confessional for you...
Arai64 2 years ago
And yes I have been baptised, but do not believe that this in itself guarantees salvation.
Arai64 2 years ago
We are not at liberty to take upon ourselves what is not commanded in the word of God, especially when such contravenes Bible teaching that Christ alone is our Mediator and way to the Father. That the angels are aware of sinners repenting (not doing penance - a mistranslation) is a far cry from the Roman doctrine being propagated here. If the glorified knew our sufferings, would their joy not be dampened?
We are not to seek or pray to the dead. King Saul was judged when he did so (1 Sam 28:7-8)
Arai64 2 years ago
We ask Saints to pray for us. "St. Martin, pray for me", "St. Jude pray for me".
Now for the third time, have you been baptised?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
We don't pray to Saints and Angels, we ask Saints & Angels to pray for us.
So have you been baptised then or what?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Stop back-peddling, you say prayers to saints and angels in which you ask that they pray for you, and your reply tells me you know it's wrong.
Arai64 2 years ago
You've correctly labelled me a Protestant Christian more than once, so your constant sect thing's a bit silly really.
Yesterday, you stated: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me," (actually - I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6).
This accepted, why are you praying to Saints and Angels?
Arai64 2 years ago
"My sect? I don't belong to one, I'm as you stated earlier, a wide-awake Protestant"
I stated no such thing - but since you say you don't belong to any sect - can I ask you, have you been baptised?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"I've merely tried to reach out to you"
No you have not - you are judgemental, a bigot and a hypocrite. A bigot because you only see faults in Catholicism and a hypocrite because you refuse to see the faults in Protestantism.
You refuse to acknowledge the vast world out there with many different faiths (and none) and simply focus on being anti-Catholic. It is an appalling attitude to have and to be quite honest, anything but Christian.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
When did I plea guilty? Another example of hearing what you WANT to hear. However, I accept a plea on your behalf of senile dementia - memory loss can be quite useful mind you - I was actually beginning to think you were a member of the Westboro Baptist Church - you would fit right in there. They, like you, shout loud about the [alleged] faults of others and refuse to deal with their own failings.
Judgement day? Maybe God will judge you the way YOU judge others. Let he without sin .......
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
I've merely tried to reach out to you, as I honestly believe you've been misled by people who historically, have been downright dishonest.
All I ask is that you allow the scriptures to be your guide, and simply do not accept the word of your roman priest as the word of God, as it simply is not.
Although, (amongst other things), you've doubted the word of two roman cardinals, and refused to obey The Holy Bible's unequivocal request not to drink blood, so appear to be in the wilderness.
Arai64 2 years ago
Anyone, can take a passage, a quote or scripture and twist it to suit their meaning. Something you and people like you do very well.
That is why, when quoting scripture or words from Cardinals in order to make a point, it is meaningless because it is your INTERPRETATION of things and you will never convince me otherwise and my Church has stood the test of time and will continue to do so. That must annoy you - for you have clearly worked hard at being an anti-Catholic.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
I accept your plea of guilty, won't stand you in good stead come judgement day though will it?
My sect? I don't belong to one, I'm as you stated earlier, a wide-awake Protestant, proudly showing my back to your reprobate friend's in rome in protest at their continued nonsense.
Next topic - salvation..
Arai64 2 years ago
What sect or Protestant Church do you belong to? How many times have you avoided the question?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"The New Testament gives no instruction as to how to offer mass, and in fact there is not so much as one line on the subject in Scripture! Christ sent the apostles to teach and to baptize, not to say mass."
So what do you say about reformed Church services, Orthodox services and especially the CoE service which has been compared to be very similar to the Roman Catholic Mass?
Have you anything to say about them? What does The New Testament say about reformed services?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"Cardinals Cajetan and Bellarmine confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but the word of rome"
Well that is your opinion and your belief and neither do I care about. You have mentioned these men already and even if they did say what you suggest, it means nothing for you are merely expressing their opinion.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"Christ cannot be physically in two places at one time, or else He did not have a real human body, which denies His all important humanity."
So the man who was able to turn water into wine, cure the blind man, raise Lazarus from the dead, feed the 5000 with fives loaves and 2 fish and rise from the dead was not able to turn the bread and wine into body and blood? On one hand he is the messiah, the son of God but when using him to attack the Roman Catholic Church - he is merely human? Good God!
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
It staggers the imagination to realise that a merely human pantomime, so absurd and so contradictory to Holy Scripture, could be accepted and slavishly attended day after day and week after week by thinking men and women.
The New Testament gives no instruction as to how to offer mass, and in fact there is not so much as one line on the subject in Scripture! Christ sent the apostles to teach and to baptize, not to say mass.
Arai64 2 years ago
The Bible expressly forbids the eating or drinking of blood. NT: "For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well." (Acts 15:28-29).
Cardinals Cajetan and Bellarmine confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but the word of rome.
Arai64 2 years ago
The roman mass denies our senses since the bread still looks, smells, tastes and feels like bread.
Luke speaks of the senses as furnishing infallible proofs (Luke 1:3) Christ Himself appealed to the senses:"Handle me and see" (Luke 24:39)
In the only case of true transubstantiation in the NT - wedding feast at Canaan where the water was turned into wine - the senses were appealed to particularly the richness of the taste.
Arai64 2 years ago
Summary cont'd:
The Lords death is shown "till he come"
(1 Corinthians 11:26) Surely if the roman mass is right, then He is come already? If sohas every eye seen Him and the earth wailed because of Him? (Revelation 1:7)
The roman mass wafer even when transubstantiated into the body of Christ (snigger) soon corrupts.
This is contrary to Psalm16:9-11 (quoted in Acts 2:27) which declares that His body would not see corruption.
Arai64 2 years ago
Summary cont'd:
Did Christ have two bodies in the Upper Room? The one body breaking and distributing the other?
Was one body being offered up as a sacrifice that night and the other offered up the next?
The purpose of the Lords death is given in 1 Corinthians 11:26 i.e. to show forth the Lords death. The word translated "show forth" is translated as "preach" elsewhere. By contrast the mass is a virtual re-enactment of the Lords death.
Arai64 2 years ago
Summary cont'd:
The grammar bears the symbolic sense also. Illustration: You produce a photograph and say, "This is my friend." You point at an outline on a map and say, "This is Ireland." It is not really, actually what you said it was. It is a representation. Likewise when the Bible says: "Issachar is a strong ass couching down between two burdens." (Genesis 49:14) or "I am the door" (John 10:9) then, we understand it figuratively.
Arai64 2 years ago
Summary cont'd:
The Lords Passover (when the feast was instituted) was itself symbolic. The words of Moses: It (i.e. the lamb) is the Lords Passover. No Jew was so irrational as to think that the lamb was transubstantiated into the Lord passing over the houses of the Israelites.
The Passover was a figurative feast - likewise the supper which replaced it: "This is my body etc.,"
Arai64 2 years ago
In summary:
If Christ is actually physically present in the roman's bread & wine, then we cannot remember Him as He has bid us to do. You cannot remember one who is actually physically there. You can remember one who is not physically there but who has left tokens that remind us of him.
Arai64 2 years ago
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. (Hebrews 10:10-14/18).
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24)
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. (Acts 5:31)
Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray to God forgiveness
Arai64 2 years ago
God's word cont:
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Arai64 2 years ago
A sane take on the roman mass:
Christ cannot be physically in two places at one time, or else He did not have a real human body, which denies His all important humanity. The words of institution (Matthew 26:26-28) are evidently figurative. The Bible uses the word "is" figuratively elsewhere: Matthew 13:38/Genesis 49:14 etc. To eat the literal body and drink the literal blood of Christ is, by definition, cannibalism. No man has the power to create his Creator, as claimed by the priest of Rome.
Arai64 2 years ago
"If your faith really is built around the word of Jesus, (and not rome) ...... "
Are you really so bigoted? If the word of Rome was not the word of Jesus, where did the non-Catholic churches get their words from some 1500 years later? Everything you have, you took from us and changed it to suit yourself. Never forget that.
Can I ask again - what sect / denomination do you belong to? Do you actually belong to a reformed Church - or is your religion "anti-Catholic?"
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Can we stick to currect issues? The two current issues are the word of God re:
a) your roman mass
b) your salvation
Please stop going off on a tangent regarding alleged bigotry and outlandish accusations of Protestants corrupting something belonging to romans to suit themselves - I'll will return to this theme though - as we Protestants gave Europe the bible that romans corrupted and then sought to deny the congregation!
Arai64 2 years ago
"I invited you to debate significant items of your romanism, inititially your mass - you refused."
I didn't refuse - I pointed out to you that Transubstantiation is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic Church - yet you completely ignored that point as if it it hadn't been said. So why debate?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
"Recently, I made a statement regarding the falsehoods and superstitions of rome, you replied that there weren't any"
WRONG: I said you have no evidence of so-called "falsehoods and superstitions of Rome" you simply have a belief, a belief that I couldn't care less about. My faith is built upon the word of Jesus. Your faith appears to be built upon discrediting the Roman Catholic Church. You speak more about my faith than your own!!! Sad or what?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
If your faith really is built around the word of Jesus, (and not rome), what were His words regarding:
a) your mass?
b) your salvation?
Arai64 2 years ago
a)
"Take this all of you and eat it. This is my Body which will be given up for you. Take this all of you and drink from it, this is the cup of my blood. It will be shed for you and for all men so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me" - The last supper / Mass
b) John 14:5-6
"5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?"
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
For the sake of clarity and brevity, I will quote the Catechism of Christian Doctrine published by the Catholic Truth Society, which carries the imprimatur of the so called church of rome.
It is a fact that the church of rome IS NOT the church of God, its teaching's contradict those of the holy scriptures, its placing of its own tradition's and superstition's above the holy scriptures, and its placing of mere mortals on par with God, are to be frowned upon and condemned by anyone sane.
Arai64 2 years ago
The Roman Mass:
The Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ, together with his soul and divinity, under the appearances of bread and wine, which are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ by the power of God, to whom nothing is impossible.
The bread and wine are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ when the words of consecration, ordained by Christ, are pronounced by the priest. The Blessed Eucharist is not a Sacrament only: it is also a sacrifice.
Arai64 2 years ago
A sacrifice is the offering up of a victim by a priest to God alone, in testimony to his being the Sovereign Lord of all things.
The Holy Mass is the Sacrifice of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, really present on the altar under the appearances of bread and wine, and offered to God for the living and the dead.
The Holy Mass is the one and same sacrifice with that of the Cross, inasmuch as Christ, who offered himself a bleeding victim, on the Cross to his heavenly Father (contd):
Arai64 2 years ago
- continues to offer himself in an unbloody manner on the altar, through the ministry of his priests.
The Sacrifice of the Mass is offered for four ends: first, to give supreme honour and glory to God: secondly, to thank him for all our benefits: thirdly to satisfy God for our sins and to obtain the grace of repentance: and fourthly, to obtain all other graces and blessings through Jesus Christ.
Arai64 2 years ago
The sacrifice of Jesus Christ was once and for all time and was offered in the past. ie He is now seated at God's right hand, and not being sacrificed on the Roman altars.
His sacrifice is associated with His humiliation (Philippians 2:5-8)
His being at God's right hand (Hebrews 1:2) is associated with His glory (Philippians 2:9-11)
He cannot be humiliated and glorified at one and the same time.
One thing is impossible to God (Cp Q267 above)He cannot deny Himself (2 Timothy 2:13)
Arai64 2 years ago
The Mass cannot bring glory etc., to God seeing it contradicts God's word.
The mass is a damnable heresy (2 Peter 2:1)
God is already satisfied for the sins of His people through the once for all sacrifice of Christ.
The Mass denies the finished work by insisting it is still ongoing.
Far from bringing the grace of repentance belief in the blasphemy of the mass itself needs to be repented of.
Arai64 2 years ago
God's word declares:
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. (2 Corinthians 5:16)For from Israel was it also: the workman made it; therefore it is not God: but the calf of Samaria shall be broken in pieces. (Hosea 8:6)
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:30)
Arai64 2 years ago
The trash in the video, are mislead to believe their salvation depends on the work they do, (chortle). So, will their clearly sectarianiast endeavour's help them along the way?
Arai64 2 years ago
More anti-Catholic claptrap. It appears your whole sad existence depends on an unhealthy obsession with my Church. I am actually beginning to feel sorry for you now. The only trash here is yourself, who have judged the people in this video to be of a certain faith (purely to have a dig at my Church), when you know nothing about them. Not very Christian is it? And how the hell is anything in that video "sectarian"? And still waiting to find out what non-Catholic sect you belong to. If any.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Recently, I made a statement regarding the falsehoods and superstitions of rome, you replied that there weren't any - and that I was basically a Protestant toerag.
I invited you to debate significant items of your romanism, inititially your mass - you refused.
I've now simply moved onto one's salvation, your answer is yet again more evasive drivel, so just tell me, how you envisage salvation for yourself, and the thuggish, deluded romans featured herein - it can't be that hard surely?
Arai64 2 years ago
Silence? Although I'm not surprised. But what sayeth cardinals cajetan and bellarmine on your mass? Both expressly confessed that the doctrine of Transubstantiation was not founded on the word of God, but received from the Church. Oh dear, a foundationless roman falsehood after all - but who in their right mind would canibalise Jesus Christ? A man whose death saved us, yet is resurected by a roman priest for human consumption? We worship Jesus in spirit alone, no roman priest resurects him.
Arai64 2 years ago
Silence just because i'm not on here as often as you? So you are using the word of two RC cardinals as your evidence! (Just where you got this evidence from & how authentic it is, is another matter). You'll use quotes from friends or foe's; from the devil himself probably if it fed your diet of Catholic bashing. Transubstantiation is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic Church, but don't let that stand in your way. Like many like you, you care more about being anti-Catholic than Protestant.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
I have no problem with you, or any other roman catholic per se, and would treat you respectfully in public. I do however have a problem with the people and organisation that I believe has mislead you, and hoodwinked you into believing in falsehoods.
History and common sense does them no favours, and I would like you and more besides you to turn your back on them.
Arai64 2 years ago
By the way, you never did mention - which particular sect do you belong to?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
When in the Dail in 1943, Oliver J. Flanagan praised Hitler for ridding Germany of Jews claiming, "I doubt very much if they are human!", he was not challenged by any other member. Later in a speech to the Dail he said "There is one thing that Germany did and that was to rout the Jews out of their country. Until we rout the Jews out of this country it does not matter a hair's breadth what orders you make.
In summary, irish republicans are closer to "Huns" than any Brit or Ulster-Scot is!
Arai64 2 years ago
ulsterplatoon is a fucking retard and a stinkin hun cunt. When you say Ulster are you referring to one of the four provinces of Ireland that like tsu921 says has a Catholic majority? Away back to scotland on your plantation boat ya fucking special needs cunt. Up the RA.
ourdaywillcome85 2 years ago
Rabble.
gemmagemma6969 2 years ago
While Rangers fans were busy killing huns in WWII, lowly-celts were busy courting them in lowly ROI. Just look at the monuments erected in their honour in and around dublin. History dictates the Nazis had allies in ROI, not Northern Ireland & UK. All that canabilism at your roman mass has left you with vCJD...
Arai64 2 years ago
Hay Arai64 - History dictates the monarchy you tug the forlock to are from German descent and that they would have been spared in the event of a Nazi victory, due to their "connections" in the Fatherland. Please spare us the "we fought the Huns" shite - you bow down to them ya muppet.
P.S. You ignorant bastard - many Celtic fans, Rangers fans and fans of many other clubs and people of all faiths, fought together in WW2. Only Hun Rangers fans try to take all the credit for themselves.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
History does indeed dictate their majestic descent, through the respective houses of Hanover, Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, and Windsor, none of whom were afflicted by the falsehoods and superstitions of Rome. Your generalization, is that ALL Germans, Austrians, and Scandinavians are bad, which, like you, is ridiculous.
Your claim that the British Royal Family would have been spared by the Nazis because of their "connections" in the fatherland, is without foundation, just like your roman catholicism.
Arai64 2 years ago
"The Falsehoods of Rome" ..... oh yes, did your master tell you to utter these words or do you genuinely believe them for yourself? Windsor was not affected by Rome? Hmm, as the head of the Church, tell me about Windsor and their attitudes about homosexuality. Why is the Queen's church almost about to split in two over gay bishops? Where is the "head of the Church" and her direction in all of this? What is her direction? There is none. And you say my Church is false? God help you.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
My Master, (God), through his Son, Jesus Christ, leads me to utter these words, and yes, I genuinely believe them, as the word of Rome, contrasts with the word of God, (The Scriptures).
Let us start with your Roman Mass, tell us about it, the physical actions, their significance, why it's necessary, it's origin, etc, perhaps even where it's referred to within the scriptures. There's much more besides, but let's start here.
Arai64 2 years ago
The word of Rome contrasts from the scriptures? Where exactly did you get your scriptures from? Did you find them in a box somewhere or perhaps were they taken from my Church and altered to suit yourself? Plus - I don't need to go into the entire Mass because I don't need to justify it (not enough words allowed here anyway). If there is a particular area you wish to debate, go for it. And there is very little difference between a Catholic service and an CoE service so you may want to debate both
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Oh what a surprise, a deluded roman so afraid of being exposed as a believer in falsehoods, and a peddler of clap-trap, now hides behind feeble excuses.
You can fill as many of the 500 word boxes as is necessary to satisfy my reasonable request for further clarity regarding your roman-mass.
You can even provide us all with a laugh, and use your Latin vulgate "bible," a corruption of the scriptures by your saint jerome some 400 years after Christ's death - give it a go as I've more to ask.
Arai64 2 years ago
The typical rhetoric from a Protestant to be honest - using half truths and lies in order to paint a black picture of the Catholic Church and going back to 400AD no less. If you couldn't find fault in my Church, there would be no justification for having yours would there? Where did you get your word of God from? You spend more time trying to pick fault with my Church - you would be better advised to deal with your own serious errors today rather than focus on alleged errors in 400 AD
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
And erm, your mass? Did you forget?
Arai64 2 years ago
No I didn't forget - ask me a specific question and i'll do my best to answer. Once again though, wouldn't you be better off dealing with the issues in your own Church instead of worrying about mine? Whatever your opinion is of the Mass - it is merely that; an opinion. And erm, your holy book, your scriptures - where did you get them from?
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
Let us start with your Roman Mass, tell us about it, the physical actions, their significance, why it's necessary, it's origin, etc, perhaps even where it's referred to within the scriptures. =======
===are these questions relating to one thing specific enough? I'll answer all yours in due course, but let's get this one of mine out of the way first.
Arai64 2 years ago
Considering the British Royal Family did not evacuate Buckingham Palace, and that it was bombed nine times in WWII, any notion of there being "connections" between London and Berlin can be dismissed.
Regarding your muli-faith British Army claim, I agree. However, these troops were from Great Britian & Northern Ireland, apart from a tiny number of volunteers from ROI, sickened by their shameful republic's allegiance with Nazi Germany, whom I might add, were sneered at upon their return to ROI.
Arai64 2 years ago
So who could Nazi Germany count on for support?
1) Benito Mussolini
2) Pope Pius XII / The Vatican
3) The ROI
Their Romanist short-comings aside, the aforementioned were well aware of Hitler's final sollution to The Jews, yet continued their support.
The ROI, hiding behind a pretence of neutrality, supplied men to train and serve with the Nazis. From lighting fires to guide in Hitler's bombers to Belfast, to re-fuelling his u-boats and more beside, Hitler could always count on the ROI
Arai64 2 years ago
The Pope did not support Hitler - he just did not stand up against him for he knew the consequences. He later stated he wished he had spoken out. Also if there is a right wing element to Ireland, it is no different from many other countries including UK. But you conveniently miss out the many people from Ireland who fought against the Nazis, not only in WW2 but in the Spanish civil war against Franco.
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
What pitiful conjecture? Your pope didn't speak out as he (and his cohorts) were all for Hitler and his Nazi's, moreover, their action's.
Hitler was put into power by them, Ludwig Kaas, Wlodimir Ledochowski, and others in the roman church manipulated Adolf into power.
Your current pope (apparently infallible) is none other than Joe Ratzinger, ex Hitler Youth. Your religion's a complete joke, demanding belief in unfounded rubbish that it simply made up.
Arai64 2 years ago
And considering the British treated Ireland and many Irishmen and women with as much contempt as Hitler did to the Jews, I don't think Irishmen ever supported Hitler or his ideals - more of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
MacBloscaidh 2 years ago
It is clear that Eamon de Valera was sympathetic to the Nazi slaughter of Jews, and still willing to be open about it when it was clear that there would be no comeback for Nazi Germany and no united Ireland on the back of an axis victory and the bayonets of the SS. It is interesting to note that de Valera's visit was publicly applauded in the Irish press by Irish republican supporting literary gem, George Bernard Shaw.
Arai64 2 years ago
Not forgetting Eoin O'Duffy (the Irish Fuhrer) and leader of the 100000 strong fascist Blueshirts. His organisation echoed Hitler's SA movement and based its marches, flags and salutes (Hail, O'Duffy) on those in use in Nazi Germany.
During WW II, O'Duffy took a great interest in Nazism with which his now Peoples National Party was closely aligned. He even went to the extent of sending an offer to Hitler saying that he would raise a "Green Legion" of Irishmen to fight on the Russian front.
Arai64 2 years ago
As a Nazi collaborator, O' Duffy spent time in Germany discussing with the Nazis in true Irish Republican fashion precisely what he could do to assist in Hitler's campaign against Britain. This 'Green Duce' that had modelled himself on Mussolini and supported Hitler died peacefully in 1944 and was buried with a state funeral in Glasnevin cemetry in Dublin, alongide other heroes of Irish Republicanism such as Daniel O'Connell, Roger Casement and O'Duffy's former comrade Michael Collins
Arai64 2 years ago
This not the only manifestation of ROI sympathy for Nazism which led to them being rebuffed by the USA, that prevented them for Marshal Aid, and delayed their entrance into the United Nations until 1957. During the War officials of the ROI were outrageous in their racist anti-Semitism which was openly tolerated by the Roman Catholic hierarchy and common currency in Irish society. Indeed Hitler's racial criteria for keeping out the Jew were still being used in Eire 8 years after Hitler's death.
Arai64 2 years ago
were u laughin yesterday ya twats, only 4 in a row u r having a laugh haha rem 1690 FGAU NO SURRENDER
ulsterplatoon 2 years ago
i always laugh when people say fgau. because they must not realise that ULSTER has a catholic majority:)
tsu921 2 years ago 5
Yassss'
Mon the hoops !
1cutie1way 2 years ago 4
did anyone here you get a free space suit when ever you get a season ticket at ibrox its due to the lack of atmosphere. MON THE HOOPS !!!
sheepdog2c7 2 years ago 5
can u see a happy hun no, hello hello it's the only song ya no
lisbonliam 2 years ago
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shit vid with no quality and a bunch of pricks singin something
phonicsfan1 2 years ago
hail hail
SouthDownIPLO 3 years ago
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Is it true that catholics have to confess about eating the jam? it's only what iv'e heard, cant believe it's true
kookinoncool 3 years ago
dont be a fool. that is such an pathetic question
irishmikeeb 3 years ago 2
THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT BY UN.
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YouaresoCrap 3 years ago 12
haha fuckin ha, I hate 'student wit'
RamonAllnightlong 3 years ago
haha class... hun fukers
Ayrshirebhoy 3 years ago
gazza is yet another waster to come oot of castle greyskull. poisoned by the hun mentality. get it up ye ya fat smelly jakey bastards
makavelithedon1989 3 years ago
Aiiie Gazza had a wee spell at McCeltic playing McFootball then he got booted oooot!
"ock aye da noo"! " theres a moose loose aboooot this hooooose!"
Captainphartypants 3 years ago
what?
EuanMcKee1984 2 years ago
my dad lives near ibrox i hate it and i've been to parkhead area often much prefer it
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Andyrfc86 3 years ago
Father, Father I must confess I left some wee fucker in a hell of a mess his teeth were all broken and his face was all smashed but thats wht he gets for singin' the sash.
MMAK1LLER 3 years ago 3
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When I was a young boy living in Glasgow's East End, a creepy preest approached me and said "Son..can I help you?".. I replied "Fuck off ya Fenien Bastard" Result? I am now a proud PRODDY with my arse intact. Big Jock let us ALL down. (BJK, PPWAI) Big Jock Knew, Proud Proddy With Arse Intact.
Rang3rsTreble 3 years ago
Sorry everyone I was high on smack when i made that post, it was actually Richard Gough who approached me then fucked me up the arse, I said "Thanks Richard can you do me again, I like that" I am now a proud gay loyalist faggot, I do a lot of business at Ibrox, its full of pedophiles and gayboys, Big Jock was a great man and knew nothing. Proud Proddy With Arse totally busted open. All welcome blowjobs my speciality.
Ranger3TrebIe 3 years ago
spell it right or dont say anything
jim2t6 3 years ago
what a week
Lpool 4-0 Gers
FBK 2-1 Gers
Celtic 3-1 Gers
maybe a quadruple tomorrow
Falkirk 1-0 Gers
GIRUY
FBK=LEGENDS
3iar2008 3 years ago
Great Video n songs boyz pity the filth r in the way C Mon The Celtic...
Marky1888 3 years ago
tell aw the hns you know
Nacho Novos the new Sebo
With a miniute to go
paget12 3 years ago
I would just like to say I didn't understand a word of that.
Oreganohaze 3 years ago
fuck sake if nakamura scores another goal like at one he got against yooz he cin eat ma fuckin dug if he wants !!! GAZZA'S A PSYCHO !
GAZZA TRIED TAE SHAG A MOP, DOO DAH, DOO DAH,
GAZZA'S GOT A SPLINTERED COCK, ALL THE DOO DAH DAY !!!
KingHenrik1967 3 years ago
All the huns oot cashing their giros ?? fucking lowlife tramps,lying in their own pish in Manchester
bhoys1916 3 years ago 5
fuck ehh tims nakamura eat my dog he sliced him and diced...........
gazzawils92 3 years ago
can u here the rangers sing noo noo
Ya crap face it ya hun priks
nathank1988 3 years ago
we'll see awrite m8y... hawd oan the noo tae a rattle these beads... rite, yer unions gone. ye cannae see it yet, but its gone. welcome tae the republic of britain. how does that sound big yin ;)
weetimbhoy 3 years ago
Your day will come alrite buddy... but not your country. The power of the Union is stronger than you think. If it was up to your kind we would be running around in mud huts, pumpin yer sister whilst yer father eggs you on from the cellar!
timopener1690 3 years ago
Celtic fans wheres you pride....?
The only pride you get is when your Dad opens up zipper and unloads upon you.... Dripped in Celtic pride - inbreeding since 1888
timopener1690 3 years ago
the unions a goner. FACT
weetimbhoy 3 years ago 3
we'll see ya wee rattler
timopener1690 3 years ago
Hun?
pinkcheese000 3 years ago
fuck you prick hun wanker
a1fera1 3 years ago
Fucking fenian bastards champions 08 and uefa cup winners
gazzawils92 3 years ago
Wheres yer Uefa Cup then ya pharmacy lootin piece of scum?
Tell all the Huns you know
Top of the league
And they're No
Gubbed by the racists
2-0 is the latest
Still Top of the League
And they're NO-OH-OH!
Ar la
catmex77 3 years ago
champions of what u tit the diddy cups lol
johnnnie2000 3 years ago