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  • 7 years later, world champ! he was 16 back then...

  • What on earth is brundle talking about? That was a dick move from montoya, everybody understeers into that corner and contact was inevitable but luckily for montoya he escaped unscathed when he really should have been in the gravel but instead schumi dropped back 3 positions..

  • Rule books don't matter for Schumacher.

    Schumi pee'd every time he saw JPM on his rear view mirror.

  • look at vettel at 1:49

  • @igon2893 is that actually Vettel?

  • Today that would have been a drivethrough and a half

  • Today that would be 2400 drive thrus

  • Two things

    1- Montoya was an absolutely aggressive great driver!

    2- The tyres were much more resistant in 2003, from 2005 and then on, what happened in 1:20 would puncture Montoya's right front tyre.

  • fuck DRS fuck KERS this is montoya 4 you!!

  • this is how 2003 title was stolen

  • @SoulcheckAudio juan pablo jamas gano un campeonato en f1............tal vez te refieres que gano 7 carreras en posicion 1??? pero campeonatos........0 . estamos hablando de formula 1.

  • sans les erreur de montoya en australie et canada, et sans la severe penalité a indianapolis, Il aurait remporté le championnat 2003 ,dommage,

  • OH MY GOSH! THAT WAS A VERY YOUNG SEB VETTEL!

  • Jerez 1997?

  • cuando hay jefes en tu equipo diciendo que deje ganar a tu compañero, y teniendo jueces en el bolsillo quien no gana asi, ademas si Senna estuviera vivo michael nunca hubiera visto algun campeonato por su forma de conducir, los que gano fue por ser buen piloto y un buen carro pero por no ser un piloto rapido como son Senna, Montoya, Raikonen o hasta el mismo Alonso.

  • Michael nunca pudo con Juan Pablo el talento del Colombiano fue superior al del aleman a la hora de tener autos similares.

  • 1:49 Vettel

  • @NottinghamForest22 good spot if thats him he would only be 15! nice choice of football team btw

  • back when F1 cars looked sexy now they are boring

  • u people need to know how hard it is to keep the brake pedal holded on so that the car doesnt turn off. even though i montoya is like my favorite driver when he used to race in f1, this is an amazing skill by schumi

  • did schumi got black flag after?

  • @Pingu123489 No.

  • Vettel by the looks of it at 1:49 (then aged 15), both facially and the fact he's wearing a Red Bull cap.

  • @Alexf1man93 - I don't know if that is or not but it does look like Vettel. So good spot either way, cool.

  • can anyone guess what would have happened if this was Hamilton instead of Montoya? Wait I know.  A bunch of homos going "Ugh! fucking Ramilton is dangerous, he'll kill somebody, ugh!"

  • specialy the spaniards...

  • @Dartaco79 Yea. And it's never one of the good, upstanding Spaniards. It's always an ignorant one with no home training.

  • @xcruzrr6

    Possibly because it wouldn't be Ramilton's first time? u mad bro?

  • @kalvaza Nah. I leave that to the "Ramilton" cry-babies. "Y'all niggas are Gay!!!" Riley voice*

  • @xcruzrr6

    ya, u mad

  • @kalvaza Whatever helps you sleep at night

  • @xcruzrr6

    so mad

  • @kalvaza I keep your mom happy ;-)

  • It's a Ferrari. They get a push, no charge!

  • @xcruzrr6 The rule always you can get a push,only if you kept the engine running...and he did

  • Still one of the best overtakes ever made.

  • so schumacher finished 5th and scored 4 points because he got pushed out, and ended up winning the championship by 2 points over raikkonen O_o

  • Schumacher trying to ram a Williams off the track again, back fired a bit this time though haha!

  • i was there live. all the mcLaren fans were like "yeeeah" :D

  • And people tell me Montoya is a great overtaker, look what he does all the time, nothing but incidents, everytime I see him overtaking someone he causes incidents, and I'm not saying that because I'm favoring someone or some manufacturer.

  • @Tranzorr Michael went wide into Montoya's car. Look at where he is corner entry then midcorner. He went in tight  then went wide into Montoya just before they touched. Michael's usual shenanigans backfired this time I'm sorry to say.

  • Totally agreed. In fact Montoya is pratically considered the F1 2003 World Champion. He had to fight against blu ferrari ,absourd penalties by ferrari fia and also we have to consider that while schumacher had also always a slave teammate on the contrary the first opponent of Montoya was right his useless teammate always disturbing. No doubt ,Montoya has shown what does it mean to be strongest of the full establishment. Simply the best after Senna

  • @mgarofano Brave, yes, talented, no. Schumacher challenged Senna, did Montoya? That's right. Montoya could barely stay ahead of Kimi, in fact Montoya should be the "useless teammate" as he did nothing but crash into Ralf Schumacher.

  • @azmichael34 Sorry no deserving answer. Motivation- Total lack of knowledge.

  • @mgarofano Haha you pathetic scum. Go back to your cave because every time someone outsmarts you, you back off like the coward you are. Silly cunt.

  • @azmichael34 Sorry for you .Really.

  • @mgarofano Nice reply, tells me a lot about your bad comeback skills. I'll let you go back to worshipping Montoya.

  • @azmichael34 listen you little fing cock sucking uphill farmer, schumacher isn,t even german his mum got fcked by some russian he,s a cheat, senna and montoya were a differn,t era. your post is flawed like your brain. don,t come on here again chating your crap.....now f:ck off!

  • @daddylister MY post is flawed? Your post is incorrect in so many ways. Your grammar, spelling, and your facts. I take it you're anti-Schumi? The most stupid people in F1 along with the anti-Senna people. Again with the cheating bullshit, Was it Senna who knocked off Prost for the championship? Besides, blame Flavio Briatore for the cheating. And they didn't even fine Benetton for TC.

  • @daddylister Well mate, you don't beat around the bush, do you?!.

  • Montoya = driving genius

    Michael could have solved it with a little countersteer - but no reaction :D

  • ooo gaaaaaad he is very very idiot

  • wow fIA-Ferrari International assistance assinting schumi against the rule

  • that s montoya genius for you

  • well done Montoya ;) payback for malaysia 2002 where he got an absurd and disgusting penalty after start incident ;) fucking dirty schumacher bastard

  • if that was schumacher who had of spun montoya out, this page would be filled of hate messages about schumacher cheating, fia yayaya fucksake wise up

  • 2003 should have been Montoya's.

  • @brav0wing Montoya's what? Most ridiculous season?! Nope, maybe 2007 in nascar was the most pathetic show of this half-sized driver.. Lol

  • @filippinator That's your opinion.

  • @brav0wing sure it is. It seems Kevin Harvick (know him?) had a bad opinion of JPM and his "style" too..He said JP was involved in pretty ALL dirty situations in Sprint Cup..haha. Anyway, seriously, Montoya has never been close to win a F1 championship. Never. All other things are opinions. ;)

  • @filippinator He was very close to winning 2003 championship if it wasn't for the penalty against Barichello in Brasil I think. That penalty cost him the championship. He drove brilliantly that year and had a good car in the second part of the season. It's not an opinion, it's fact, since in the second part of the season he closed the gap against schumacher and also led the championship if i'm not mistaken for a few races.

  • MS Fans deeply inside know what a huge cheater he is, but also deeply inside don't care...

  • @alfombrodrb haters deeply inside know that they are talking shit and are only jealous because their favourite driver hasnt success, but also deeply inside they are dumb as shit and losers who dont do anything but hating...

    Every driver in f1 except jacques villeneuve deserves his success in f1

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  • @alfombrodrb To clarify the vast majority don't give proper thought about what to say and end up replying with a poor "comment" like the one from 8kuh.So, yes as you said they don't care,Actually the user in question has prove your point.How ironic.

  • simple contacto de carrera no se porque los insultos hacia montoya, ademas que pason que le estaba pegando a schumi y por afuera

  • For such a talented driver like Montoya it was just always a joke to pass schumacher in every condition and situation.

  • @mgarofano and how many F1 championships did montoya win with that attitude?

  • @renvon Your consideration is reasonable but at the same time denote you didn't see very much F1.Differently you surely would know about the shameful dirty game against Montoya.He had to fight against much more "opponents". Blu Ferrari (sauber) always helping Schumacher, against Barrichello always working by contract just to help Schumacher and against absurd penalties by "Judges " and he also had more his useless teammate disturbing .With all that he was pratically WC in 2003.Super Attitude

  • fuck montoyota...

  • Montoya used to kick Schumacher's ass on a regular basis.

  • Nice rammer ! *---*

  • I hate the way James Allen said "One" Montoya. Such an idiot, at least try to pronounce it right. I'm soo glad his idiot sorry ass is gone.

  • It was the F-1 :'(

    I MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The best drivers have always raced for McLaren.

  • That's what you call home field advantage. A lot of drivers would have probably just given up. Schumacher kept the engine running and tried to make the best out of a fucked up situation. That's skill as well.

  • MS got WC because of this push. Bullsh*t!

  • Who is that in the Ferrari garage with the black hat and shirt? It looks like Sebastian Vettel, but he would have been like 13 years old then.

  • Is that Vettel in 1:49 ?

  • I've also thought about that

  • @PaskoinLattialle seems to be like vettel! Yup, his shirt is even dark blue like Red Bull one!!

  • @PaskoinLattialle

    Yes, it was

  • @PaskoinLattialle He'd be about 15 at the time

  • @PaskoinLattialle it is! u know schumi was his mentor many years in kart and early formula series.

  • @PaskoinLattialle No, it's Justin Bieber. lol.  jk, Yup, it's Vettel.

  • @PaskoinLattialle I think it is!

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  • @PaskoinLattialle Yep ... It was Vettels second time meeting Shumacher .

  • @PaskoinLattialle No, its Justin Beiber ;-). I thought SV too.

  • @PaskoinLattialle i had the same reaction during this video sequence. could be realistic. he looks exactly like vettel!

  • @PaskoinLattialle Good spot, could well be. looks like a kid with a red bull cap.

  • Jerez Dejavù reverse

  • jajajajaj, F.I.A Sucks

  • 0:12 "oohhhhhh!!"

    ajajajaj xDD

  • F.I.A : Ferrari Internationoal Assistance

  • @wiplash01 really??? so what is the help recived by hamilton at nurburgring 2007??

    was hamilton driving a ferrari?!

  • @suxmax No but the race was red flagged, so it's different.

  • @blingadude why it is different

  • @wiplash01 or fucking idiots asosiaton xD.. is same

  • I thought the rule was: You can receive assistance if you're NOT in a dangerous position, and not the other way around. The idea being the marshals aren't putting themselves at risk. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with MS's getting a push. Clearly it took less time than hoisting the car away.

    It's pretty obvious, though, that Schumacher's contact with Montoya was intentional. So I would have rather not seen him get pushed back on track.

  • @foxtrotalphaone The rule is that you can't help a car in that position is they assist in restarting the car. That's why Schumacher and Hamilton (in 2007) were allowed to continue racing, because they kept the engine running. Also, the Ferrari was in a "dangerous position", which means his car has to be moved. If his car wasn't, he couldn't have rejoined. No Ferrari bias... Get over it!

  • @blingadude I don't believe I said anything about Ferrari bias, so I'm confused by that last sentence.

  • @foxtrotalphaone Sorry, the second half was to all the idiots who say the FIA were biased, not at you.

  • JPM ftw, the man was pure entertainment!

  • The pushing of Schumacher was allowed. At the time, and I think still today, you can ask the marshals to push you back on the track when the engine is still running.

  • Schumacher received assistance and only because of this he won 2003 F1 Championship title. Cheater!

  • what is the point of the pitboard when they have radio? not like the drivers can actually see what the fuck it says anyway.

  • @KuostA who says they cant c nething??

  • @f1fan84 because theyre flying by at fucking 170mph aand focusing on the strait/car ahead/braking point.

  • @KuostA buddy.... " focusing on the car that is ahead of u n paying attention to ur braking zones AND LOOKING AT THE PITBOARD" its all part of the job ...n if u cant do that, WHAT THE FUCK R U DOING THERE?? i, myself am a racecar driver ( not an F1 driver )n those r things that u get used to

    cheers

  • @f1fan84 you're an idiot. it has nothing to do with their job or not. it's about it being simply physically impossible to see the small ass sign going at 150+ mph down the backstrait. its simply impractical and inefficient when you have a radio.

  • @KuostA ya okay it is impossible....hahaha u know what im done talking to u ,god what do u know about driving racecars on the daily basis? u probably drive ur car from home to work n thats it .n the only racing experience u have its the rental karts from ur town.idiot its not impractical u get times of every lap n the gap between u n the car behind u , the team will not wanna bother u every time u pass by the start/finish line on the radio tellin u this things

    cheers

  • Vettel at 1:49!

  • @xactxx Haha, how the f*ck did you noticed that? ^^

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  • What that looked like was MS trying to pit Montoya. I'm not a montoya fan, but this was MS's fault.

  • None of you have listened this properly. To start with, Brundle thinks they touched, but then after the other angles we were shown says Michael just got it wrong & got sideways. Neither car jolts if you look closely, and there's not even a puff of tyre smoke. Racing each other into the corner would probably have meant they were carrying more speed than usual, and so yes, Schumacher-with his tighter turning angle, just spun. Simple as that.

    The FIA clarified the ruling about "pushing" cars, so n

  • @shredderkrang There is clear contact between MS front wing and JM front right. MS could have held his tight inside-line but elected to let the car drift lightly of its line out to squeeze JM back and it didn't work out for him. That's F1. All other top drivers would have done the same in either position. No foul either way.

  • This push is bull shit! If they hadn't of done it Raikkonen would of been champion! Cheating git that he is!

  • I think i know why Schumi spun instead of Montoya,Its possible that the Ferrari had too much body roll on the car,Body Roll is when there is a load transfer in the car and it forces it towards the outside of the corner plus the touch from Montoya's car then contributed and was enough to make the Ferrari spin

  • well if he wasn't schumi, they would never had pushed him to road...

  • @mgarofano Tbh I don't like schumacher but I don't think any rules were broken imo.

    His car was obviously in a dangerous position and so he was allowed to be pushed.

  • @Drenwickification Erm sorry to bump in but i think it's contracdictory what you said,or wont you think that as it's a dangerous position as you said, we could have being witness of a very costly push.Eg Monaco,marshall dies,shredded litteraly as he was collecting debris,whiles the safety car was on track.I also remember FA at Monza NO a thing or anyone come to push or taking the car out,Hmm rules? or championship... Finally then,why the forklif was there in the first place...obvious innit.

  • @mgarofano Why calling Schumacher a cheater? shut your mouth. and there was nothing "difficult" about going around, that is what drivers get millions payed for. I sure know that Montoya started bitching if Schumacher did this to him, because he could never accept being a loser!

  • @DutchieKev your "comment" with your " statements" is the comment of yourself and obviously surely it doesn't deserve any other answer.

  • @mgarofano Wow was that a slap i just heard !!.Trully hurts them when we called MS a cheater,which it's true.That's what MS has left to his beloved-blinfolded fans.Enjoy his legacy and enjoy this colosal pass Juan more time as this will remain forever MONTOYEAH.

  • @TOXICTRACE totally agreed. You said everything. They understand now how a cheater schumacher was and the true hurt them deeply.

  • @mgarofano He also won the title that year and Juan didn't. The "cheater" won seven in total. I was a big Montoya fan but your pathetically immature comments are laughable.

  • @MrThreshold2009 I heard no statements by you ,go to study and try to understand what happened ,differently ,as usual like some other funny boy fan , ...well, ...differently , simply ...very poor comment funny boy .Go to study and grow up.

  • @mgarofano You need to study English a bit better otherwise supposedly witty retorts you imagine just look like a distorted mess.

    You are clearly utterly biased and so you comments are null and void.

  • @MrThreshold2009 Ahh ,again go to study and grow up. Again no statements . Again poor comment.

    Try to say something, if you can .....

  • @mgarofano You're a moron.

  • @MrThreshold2009 Sorry funny boy ,you don't deserve anymore answers.

  • @mgarofano So then why did you reply, dumb fuck? You just can't think of intelligent responses. That's all there is to it :-)

  • Is Vettel on 1:51?

  • @pilhotoh it looks like him

  • @pilhotoh AHAHAH THAT WAS VETTEL! OMG He looks so cute!

  • @Claymore2408 What a absolute coincidence the chances of seeing the likes of Seb,Lewis or Nico was 1 in a 100 or 50 at least

  • @pilhotoh Yes, It is 2010 WDC Vettel !!

  • the men who pulled him out helped him to catch the championship title

  • Eso es lo que se llama ser colombiano hp♥

  • Wow... back then Brundle was talking with Allen when commentating. Now he just listens to Legard's monologues...

  • @jacx11 I miss ITV coverage

  • Schumacher starts swaaaaaaaaaying to the outside in the middle of the corner, traditionally of course. many drivers have commented on this he does it frequently.

  • Lolzilol123 that is BS!

    1st: Look at 1:20, JBM turns right.

    2nd: The INSIDE car is the more "turning" one, because the line is shorter. Smaller radius, smaller ambit, less "turning".

  • It is quite funny that Brundle, who was a good racer, can't see what happened - it seems to me this was one of the times Brundle and Schumacher didn't like each other.

    Schumacher and Montoya touch, and when two cars touch, it is often the most "turning" car that spins - this is usually the outside, but because Montoya had already straightened the wheel, and Schumacher hadn't, Schumacher was turning way more and he spun. That is what I get from that episode, at least.

  • To case is not it prohibited that the auxiliary ones of track help to a car to return to the carreara?? ... truth that is Scumacher ... this stayed in view of the whole world .. and there are people who still thinks that Schumacher is not a thief

  • I'm sorry, but that is not English. You write something about Schumacher being a thief, that's what I could understand from your comment. Could you try to get someone to check your sentences for you?

  • forgives ... that is prohibited that auxiliary of runway help to a car to return to the race after a mishap..

  • Oh now I get it, you are saying that it is against the rules that he is being pushed by the stewards - I agree that it is strange that there was no case at all, but I personally think it is a sucky rule - the people want to see racing, not drivers digging themselves in the gravel traps.

  • And that in this case for being Michael Scumacher, the clause I stay in nothing ... and that stayed in view of the whole world... Scumacher is a thief.. BMW invested millions in his engine P 83 Schumacher it he knew that it he had to play dirtily and there are people who still defends it..

  • at 1:48 that kinda looks like sebastian vettel

  • @didickcheeseburger yea i saw that too i think that it is him actually

  • I noticed that aswell. I think that's a Red Bull cap on him so I guess it is Vettel.

  • Montoya is surely the most talented driver of the last 15 years.

  • if you watch the FIA 2003 review, ross brawn calls that a "crude overtaking maneuver" what a little BITCH. michael clearly entered the corner with too much speed and understeered into montoya. im glad to see montoya go on

  • That's just fucking unbelievable!, in fact there's 2 unbelievable scenes here,the 1srt is the hipperstance pass by JPM and the other on the contrary and totally wrong was allowed him back on the race,who is that with shores at 0:50. Also watch carefully MS try's to push JPM out, the same dirty trick that MS did at JV in 97. Furtunally justice was done and justice was true, Still who that fuck was that one on shores.Hmm I remmenber FA spun at Monza and no one,not one helping out.

  • and MS parking in monaco 06, alonso "blocking" massa in italy 06 and all cheats in mclaren 07, 08 and 09

  • what do you mean by "cheats in mclaren." sure they were disqualified in '07 but in '08 they were legit and suffered some bull shit penaltys

  • nono. the penaltys in 08 were right becos hamilton hit raikkonen, he cut a chicane in france and spa, the 1st turn in japan and last race with glock. in 09 the lies in australia. in 07 in bahrein they damaged alonso's car, in monaco hamilton dissobey team orders like in hungary, in japan hamilton did the idiot behind the SC, in china alonso's tyre pressure and in brazil a slower car for him

  • well in the United States they said mclaren had asked the FIA if the way hamilton let raikkonen back by at spa was legit and they said it was ok, only to be penalized after the race. fuji was absolute bull shit, he was just late on the brakes. idk about the 2007 stuff. where did you learn about the bahrain and china incidents of '07. i did hear alonso ripped a door off the hinges in the mclaren motorhome-lol-badass.

  • in china alonso said it after the qualifying. in bahrain now i don't remember who. and i remember now that in indianapolis the team didn't let him overtake hamilton and that in spa they left open the oil cap before qualifying

  • they left open the oil cap, thats unbelievable. how could've that happened. but at indianapolis it seems alonso was just beaten but idk. no wonder he was keen on supporting ferrari and had that late season run last year. last four races of '08 for alonso- 1st, 1st, 4th, 2nd

  • Alonso tried and tried to get by Lewis at Indy 07. There were absolutely no team orders for him to stay behind Hamilton.

    And even if there were, what does that tell you that a team like McLaren would put their eggs in a Rookie's basket, instead of a two-time World Champion.