@MetalDetroit So it is the democrats who want to defund social security? Do you hear self? The whole theme of republicanism is get rid of big government, and SS is a huge government program that was initiated by democrats in the first place. So it is the democrats who are out to destroy the old people when they are the ones who created SS. Your logic is undeniable. Bush tax cut to the rich has lowered economic activity, and now you are saying democrats are destroying SS. Talk about confusion...
@sh00008 I have shown you where you are wrong: lowering taxes does in fact increase economic activity - giving people more money to save, invest, spend. The "Payroll Tax Cut" is a decrease in funding to Soc. Sec. You claim Republicans are only out for the rich - yet Obama is about to spend 1 Billion to get reelected.
Democrats do not care about the poor-only about getting the poor's vote.
You are a parot. all you can do is recite democrat talking points.
@MetalDetroit Again, I'm for lowering taxes for 98%; only I don't agree Bush tax cut for the rich. I repeated that over and over again. Yes lowering tax cut for the 98% will increase economic activity. But lowering tax cut for the top 2% decreases economic activity because the rich hold on to their money while the poor have to spend the tax cut on essential items like food and bills. So not only you are wrong about economic activity, you are wrong about my overall position.
@sh00008 like many Democrats and liberals -you seem to want the gov. to take care of you.
"Government should not do for man what man should do for himself" A. Lincoln
"The course of History shows us that as a government grows, liberty decreases"
T. Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people in the pretense of taking care of them." T. Jefferson
Speaker FAT ASS can't handle a hard question abou his liberal libido....and Ron Paul owned him about him about being a coward, chickenhawk pussy....both are rePUBEican dicks...but GongDICK is a NAZI, RACIST ASSHOLE...that makes Hitler look like Bambi. Good luck Newt Goldwater.
That newt thing was staged. Gave him 3 minutes to belittle the host , give me a break. The thing CNN was really doing wrong was giving him a platform to dismiss the interview, He didn't have to pay for it and they allowed him to look like he was being attacked (poor victim), instead of the cheating (abusive) husband he was.
the only thing newt is good for is trashing the media in the debates. though i question how much sincerity he puts behind this act but makes for a good show at any rate.
guilty in the eyes of blood thirsty republicans and their constituents doesn't translate into legally guilty. you always seem to have your own revised version of history. you rePUBICans are a bunch of f'n idiots;
Dude....lol! Clinton was "guilty" of lying when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss Lewinsky"....you disagree, you're an idiot of the 1st order.
actually @2010gop, you're the idiot. clinton was never found guilty of lying to a grand jury. know your history to avoid looking like an ass and stuffing your foot in your mouth.
@Ramiel77: Yea, sure ... there can be all kinds of "reasons". Like, for example, being paid mega-bucks to do so. Kinda strange she just happens to want to air her feelings 3 days before a primary.
Gingrich is a piece of shit. This hypocrite was getting Clinton impeached for an affair while he himself was having and affair. Not to mention he was having the affair at a time when his wife was suffering from a disease. Gingrich is a lying pos. His ex-wife isn't lying. This pos is a pure hypocrite.
@MetalDetroit Thanks for the clarification! My point still stands. Gingrich is a pos for going after Clinton while he himself was having an affair! Like all republican leaders this pos is a hypocrite!
@sh00008 And all Democrats are hypocrites also - Obama - Gore - John Kerry - John Edwards - Nancy Pelosi - All worth hundreds of millions - and they demonize the rich for votes. Nancy Pelosi is one of the biggest war profiteers in the country - He husband owns defense contractor companies.....
@MetalDetroit Who is demonizing the rich? Saying to have fair regulations and fair tax cuts while the country is in economic crisis is demonizing the rich? Being a republican nowadays is disgusting. Confused. Uninformed. Utterly negligent of basic logic. The bush tax cut to the rich on top of 2 wars almost led to a 2nd great depression. One more republican leader in office will be the tipping point of the destruction of America. Disgusting, uninformed and confused douche bags.
@sh00008 Please explain how the Bush tax cuts almost led to a depression - this ought to be good.....
The economic decline was from the housing bubble - which was 20 years in the making.
fyi - Fannie Mae and Freddia Mac (doubt if you know what those are) are both run by DEMOCRATS.
Do you realize that if the Bush tax cuts were never enacted - the revenue generated for the last 10 years would not even come CLOSE to paying for Obama's "Stimulus" package.....think about that.....
@MetalDetroit Learn to read! Bush tax cut for the rich was one variable along with 2 unpaid, unnecessary and unconstitutional wars. Clinton gave Bush a surplus, by the time Bush left, we are in huge debt on top of an economy that was failing from all angles. So what the fk are you talking about? Yes there was a housing bubble, but that was due to all the deregulation that was going on under Bush. Bush tax cut for the rich has ruined our economy and is still ruining it to this day.
@sh00008 And Bush spent that surplus the first 2yrs of his presidency. The Tax cuts raised the GDP debt. The housing bubble was caused by a number of factors not just deregulation. Both parties are to blame, and democrats did encourage bad lending. What we need is to go back to Clinton's tax codes. The GOP has turned this country into Corporatism. This is one reason why they keep tagging liberals as socialist its to keep the the sheep blind to what has really happened.
@MegaELECTRICEYE You are incorrect - there never was a "surplus" There is a difference between a budget year surplus/deficit and the National Debt. Democrats somehow think that there was money to spare when Clinton left office. That is untrue. The Federal Debt when Clinton left office was around 5.5 Trillion. When Bush left office it was 8.5 Trillion. Currently it is almont 16 Trillion. - "In my first term i will cut the deficit in half" - THANKS OBAMA !
@MetalDetroit Really and Republicans took credit for the Surplus under Clinton. Somehow Republicans love to spin the surplus to whatever fits them the best. Of course cannot lay blame on this Gop Congress for the deficit, there Job is to sink the ship to drown the the captian.
@MetalDetroit Yes and Newt would like to sell you some Real Estate on the moon also. Newt was in office for 2 of those budget years(fiscal 1998 & 1999) But yet he claims credit for 2 balanced budgets that were passed after he left office (fiscal 2000&2001) according to tax Justice Bob McLintyre it was actually the 1993 budget which all Republicans opposed that laid the ground work for Clintons balance budget that in time became a surplus.
@sh00008 Please explain how the wars were unconstitutional since both were voted on and approved by Congress.
Clinton did NOT give Bush a surplus. Do you know the difference between surplus/deficit and the debt? We have been in debt since WW2. The surplus was for 1 budget year. We still had Trillions in debt. Deregulation under Bush? Bush called for investigations of Mae and Mac - u tube it yourself.
@MetalDetroit Wars can only be declared. The war in Iraq wasn't formally declared by the congress. Point about the unconstitutionality of Iraq war has been endlessly made. And if you don't know what something like the Bush doctrine is, you are ill informed. Iraq did not have WMD, therefore the reasoning behind an undeclared war in Iraq was unconstitutional. So congress did not formally declare war on Iraq, there was no WMD, Bush unilaterally pursued U.S. military interests.
@sh00008 It was GOVERNMENT that forced banks to make bad loans under the guise of "fairness" rather than get stuck with bad loans - banks packaged them and resold them to other banks. Please explain how that is Bush's fault if you can. And once again - the revenue "lost" under the Bush tax cuts over a 10 year span would not have been enough to pay for ONE of Obama's "stimulus packages" And if the Bush tax cuts were so horrible, why did the DEMOCRATS vote to continue them?
@MetalDetroit The bush tax cuts for the rich give more money to millionaires who hold on to that money, which does little to the economy. If it weren't for the bush tax cut for the rich, the same sum of money would be flowing in the U.S. economy, stimulating the economy. Not to mention the bush tax cut for the rich has put on things like pell grant, unemployment insurance and the EPA under fire. Talk about priorities. Republican leaders are truly disgusting imbeciles.
@sh00008 How did tax cuts "GIVE" money to anyone? It allowed the people who EARNED it to keep it. And why did Obama renew the tax cuts? For years Democrats claimed it only helped the rich - Obama said we can't repeal it - it would raise taxes on the middle class. Which is it? was it tax cuts for the rich or middle class - DEMOCRATS cant get their story straight. why cant democrats understand that raising taxes leads to LESS revenue for the government ?!
@MetalDetroit How would Raising Taxes meaning more money. Be less Revenue for the Gov. And republicans said Tax cuts would create Jobs ok where are they? The tax cuts would Raise taxes on the middle class if the top 1% are getting a tax cuts.
@MegaELECTRICEYE Under Reagan's tax cuts revenue SKYROCKETED to the federal government. (unfortunately congress spent it all) Why did revenue go up with a tax cut? People had more $ to spend and invest. The investment led to 7 million new jobs created under Reagan. Each paid taxes.
@MetalDetroit A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Federal Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base!
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
@MegaELECTRICEYE A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Federal Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base! Taxes are not to make things "fair" but to raise revenue which increase with lower taxes !
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
@MetalDetroit The story of the democrats is they work for the American people, not a few corporate millionaires and billionaires. Wow, raising taxes leads to less revenue? If taxes are synonymous to revenue, increasing taxes would be an increase in revenue. They are directly proportional. How confused are you man? Revenue and tax are the same words in the government. Democrats want to increase revenue by taxing the rich vultures, it is that simple.
@sh00008 They are confused enough not to understand Gov. That is why they vote Republican and buy into their fear and smear. Such as Libeals are socialist, then use a few Jesus words to keep the sheep blind dumb stupid. While they take them down to the toilet. The republicans have always been for the party of the rich and by the rich. You did did hear what Mitt Robme said about the poor today.
@sh00008 "democrats is they work for the American people, not a few corporate millionaires and billionaires" - oh - so that is why Obama has $45,000 a plate fund raisers - right? Ever hear of Jeffrey Immelt CEO of G.E. which paid 0 Corporate taxes? - He is Obama's economic advisor. Or Billionaire George Soros? Or Democrat Jon Corzine (Who Obama called the smartest man he knows) who "misplaced" 1.2 BILLION dollars of investor money.....OPEN YOUR EYES !
@sh00008 I used to think it was funny talking economics with democrats - now it's just sad. Take a course in economics and taxation. - seriously. Under Reagan's tax cuts revenue SKYROCKETED to the federal government. (unfortunately congress spent it all)
Why did revenue go up with a tax cut? People had more $ to spend and invest. The investment led to 7 million new jobs created under Reagan. Each paid taxes.
@MetalDetroit You need to open your eyes because Obama's tax proposal is lower than Reagen's. Again, voting republican is the same thing as voting for the corporate millionaires and billionaires. Republican leaders have done little or nothing for the 98% of Americans during bush era and are still on an agenda do nothing if they ever get elected. These vultures are corporate prostitutes, just look at how hard it is for them to pass the payroll TAX CUT for that same 98% of Americans.
@sh00008 Payroll Tax Cut?! Do you even know what the Payroll Tax funds?
SOCIAL SECURITY! Democrats used to call the Payroll Tax "Contributions to Social Security" Now for political grandstanding they call it a "Payroll Tax Cut"
Social Security is already headed for economic collapse and the Democrats want to defund it further by portraying this as a Middle Class tax cut! They are ROBBING SOCIAL SECURITY so they can say they gave the Middle class a tax cut. And people like YOU believe them!
@MetalDetroit When SS was first introduced, your kind would blurt out, "Socialism!" After taking out millions of old retirees out of poverty and giving them hope at old age, it is the SAME democrats who are out to get them. Your paranoia is as silly as the idiot Sarah Palin blurting out "death panel" when healthcare for all was being proposed. Don't you see what democrats are for? They create programs to help the needy and victims of malpractice. Your kind is only the prostitute of the rich.
A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. In fact - Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base!
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
@MetalDetroit You talk about overall tax cut for everyone and how I am saying tax hike on everyone, when I am not saying that at all. Your misrepresentation of my position and then arguing against it simply a straw man. I am only saying higher the tax rate for the wealthy 2%. The ratio of per dollar tax cut to economic activity is highest when the poorest are given tax cuts. When tax cut is given to the very rich, they tend to hold the money, hence little economic activity.
@MetalDetroit NO. Democrats are reasonable moderates; that's why, even when there is a idiotic republican proposal like the Bush tax cut for the rich, they hear republicans out. They give republican ideas a chance. They try to show idiot republican leaders by example that their tax code do not create jobs but stagnate the economy. That same sum of money could be on the hands of the middle class who has to spend that money on essential items such as food and bills.
@MetalDetroit Yes this is very true and I want diagree with you there. But the problem here is the Republican party use God Christian moral values. For the purpose of political gain. The GOP set that bar high on the moral issues. This is a joke here, also it exposed the GOP how they are manipulating Christians in this country. No sin falls short in the glory of God. NOT to the GOP!!!
@MegaELECTRICEYE So what are you saying? that it is better to have NO standards than to set high standards and fall short? Vote Democrat ! We have NO standards.....
And for all the people that have called Gingrich a hypocrite - Do they say the same thing about JFK or Martin Luther King? Because both were WELL known to have had numerous affairs - yet portray themselves as decent family men.
@MetalDetroit The way the GOP use God and high moral standards is called a hypocrite. Big difference in the democrats and their no Standards At lease they are not using God and Religion for manipulation. How can someone cast stones at someone else sins when they have the same??
@MegaELECTRICEYE Casting stones? Clinton was impeached for perjury, John Edwards is on trial for using campaign money to pay off a mistress and an advisor.
STRANGE: Democrats always supported W.V. Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who was a Grand Dragon of the KKK. They say he had changed his ways. But when Gingrich says he has changed his ways he is called a liar and a hypocrite.
You tell me - which is worse: A Republican who cheated on his wife, or a Democrat who ran the KKK...
@MetalDetroit Clinton was Impeached because he lied about SEX with the White House Intern. Yes John Edward was a very bad boy. And yes Democrat Byrd Like Republican David Duke had ties to the KKK. What is worse is using God and the Bible to hide behind your sins. Gingrich has changed his ways just to get a Vote, and dumb sheep buy into his I found GOD BS.
@MetalDetroit So it is the democrats who want to defund social security? Do you hear self? The whole theme of republicanism is get rid of big government, and SS is a huge government program that was initiated by democrats in the first place. So it is the democrats who are out to destroy the old people when they are the ones who created SS. Your logic is undeniable. Bush tax cut to the rich has lowered economic activity, and now you are saying democrats are destroying SS. Talk about confusion...
sh00008 2 weeks ago
@sh00008 I have shown you where you are wrong: lowering taxes does in fact increase economic activity - giving people more money to save, invest, spend. The "Payroll Tax Cut" is a decrease in funding to Soc. Sec. You claim Republicans are only out for the rich - yet Obama is about to spend 1 Billion to get reelected.
Democrats do not care about the poor-only about getting the poor's vote.
You are a parot. all you can do is recite democrat talking points.
MetalDetroit 2 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Again, I'm for lowering taxes for 98%; only I don't agree Bush tax cut for the rich. I repeated that over and over again. Yes lowering tax cut for the 98% will increase economic activity. But lowering tax cut for the top 2% decreases economic activity because the rich hold on to their money while the poor have to spend the tax cut on essential items like food and bills. So not only you are wrong about economic activity, you are wrong about my overall position.
sh00008 2 weeks ago
@sh00008 like many Democrats and liberals -you seem to want the gov. to take care of you.
"Government should not do for man what man should do for himself" A. Lincoln
"The course of History shows us that as a government grows, liberty decreases"
T. Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people in the pretense of taking care of them." T. Jefferson
with that - I'm done
MetalDetroit 2 weeks ago
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Speaker FAT ASS can't handle a hard question abou his liberal libido....and Ron Paul owned him about him about being a coward, chickenhawk pussy....both are rePUBEican dicks...but GongDICK is a NAZI, RACIST ASSHOLE...that makes Hitler look like Bambi. Good luck Newt Goldwater.
felled 1 month ago
i wouldn't call it going "nuclear" - he was in control.
Yosemitemoon 1 month ago
Newt shoved the answer all the way down Billie Gene Queen's throat when he got uppity over Newt defending himself. Marxist turd.
ConservativeAnthem 1 month ago
They don't have shit on Ron Paul, because there IS NO SHIT on Ron Paul. Newt is a slimeball doing the typical dirtbag tactic of blaming the media.
lowlypeasant 1 month ago
We the Peoples next President! Only dirty politics from Romney and Obama are left...
mantei7000 1 month ago
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That newt thing was staged. Gave him 3 minutes to belittle the host , give me a break. The thing CNN was really doing wrong was giving him a platform to dismiss the interview, He didn't have to pay for it and they allowed him to look like he was being attacked (poor victim), instead of the cheating (abusive) husband he was.
YouAreOneOfUs 1 month ago
the only thing newt is good for is trashing the media in the debates. though i question how much sincerity he puts behind this act but makes for a good show at any rate.
nudeteawithwoodreaux 1 month ago
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guilty in the eyes of blood thirsty republicans and their constituents doesn't translate into legally guilty. you always seem to have your own revised version of history. you rePUBICans are a bunch of f'n idiots;
BBruns79 1 month ago
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BBruns79 1 month ago
Dude....lol! Clinton was "guilty" of lying when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss Lewinsky"....you disagree, you're an idiot of the 1st order.
DrkKnt802 1 month ago
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actually @2010gop, you're the idiot. clinton was never found guilty of lying to a grand jury. know your history to avoid looking like an ass and stuffing your foot in your mouth.
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BBruns79 1 month ago
Hey Twenny10- Nice selection of SHITHEADS you guys have on display tonight!!!! Losers all, just like YOU hahahah
1976donzi 1 month ago
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What a fat wise ass useless FUCK Nootbag is. See the story (author?) Chickenhawk from a while back on Noot's exploits in Viet Nam hahahah
1976donzi 1 month ago
Oh for fucks sake! Who the fuck is really applauding that ass hole? If she has dirt to talk on you, there IS a reason!
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@Ramiel77: Yea, sure ... there can be all kinds of "reasons". Like, for example, being paid mega-bucks to do so. Kinda strange she just happens to want to air her feelings 3 days before a primary.
2010GOP 1 month ago
@Ramiel77
Yea 2 days before a primary?.....You naive and ignorant tool!
08Revelator 1 month ago
Gingrich is a piece of shit. This hypocrite was getting Clinton impeached for an affair while he himself was having and affair. Not to mention he was having the affair at a time when his wife was suffering from a disease. Gingrich is a lying pos. His ex-wife isn't lying. This pos is a pure hypocrite.
sh00008 1 month ago
@sh00008: LMAO!! DAMN, you're dumb! Clinton's impeachment had to do with him lying to a federal grand jury, not the sexual act.
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@sh00008 Clinton was NOT impeached for an affair - He was Impeached for PERJURY. He lied under oath during a SEXUAL HARRASSMENT lawsuit.
MetalDetroit 1 month ago
@MetalDetroit Thanks for the clarification! My point still stands. Gingrich is a pos for going after Clinton while he himself was having an affair! Like all republican leaders this pos is a hypocrite!
sh00008 1 month ago
@sh00008 YOU are the POS for clinging to this stupid Marxist double standard.
ConservativeAnthem 1 month ago
@ConservativeAnthem and ur mother is hoe, just like newt's 2nd and 3rd wives....
sh00008 1 month ago
@sh00008 And all Democrats are hypocrites also - Obama - Gore - John Kerry - John Edwards - Nancy Pelosi - All worth hundreds of millions - and they demonize the rich for votes. Nancy Pelosi is one of the biggest war profiteers in the country - He husband owns defense contractor companies.....
MetalDetroit 1 month ago
@MetalDetroit Who is demonizing the rich? Saying to have fair regulations and fair tax cuts while the country is in economic crisis is demonizing the rich? Being a republican nowadays is disgusting. Confused. Uninformed. Utterly negligent of basic logic. The bush tax cut to the rich on top of 2 wars almost led to a 2nd great depression. One more republican leader in office will be the tipping point of the destruction of America. Disgusting, uninformed and confused douche bags.
sh00008 1 month ago
@sh00008 Please explain how the Bush tax cuts almost led to a depression - this ought to be good.....
The economic decline was from the housing bubble - which was 20 years in the making.
fyi - Fannie Mae and Freddia Mac (doubt if you know what those are) are both run by DEMOCRATS.
Do you realize that if the Bush tax cuts were never enacted - the revenue generated for the last 10 years would not even come CLOSE to paying for Obama's "Stimulus" package.....think about that.....
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Learn to read! Bush tax cut for the rich was one variable along with 2 unpaid, unnecessary and unconstitutional wars. Clinton gave Bush a surplus, by the time Bush left, we are in huge debt on top of an economy that was failing from all angles. So what the fk are you talking about? Yes there was a housing bubble, but that was due to all the deregulation that was going on under Bush. Bush tax cut for the rich has ruined our economy and is still ruining it to this day.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 And Bush spent that surplus the first 2yrs of his presidency. The Tax cuts raised the GDP debt. The housing bubble was caused by a number of factors not just deregulation. Both parties are to blame, and democrats did encourage bad lending. What we need is to go back to Clinton's tax codes. The GOP has turned this country into Corporatism. This is one reason why they keep tagging liberals as socialist its to keep the the sheep blind to what has really happened.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MegaELECTRICEYE You are incorrect - there never was a "surplus" There is a difference between a budget year surplus/deficit and the National Debt. Democrats somehow think that there was money to spare when Clinton left office. That is untrue. The Federal Debt when Clinton left office was around 5.5 Trillion. When Bush left office it was 8.5 Trillion. Currently it is almont 16 Trillion. - "In my first term i will cut the deficit in half" - THANKS OBAMA !
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
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MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Really and Republicans took credit for the Surplus under Clinton. Somehow Republicans love to spin the surplus to whatever fits them the best. Of course cannot lay blame on this Gop Congress for the deficit, there Job is to sink the ship to drown the the captian.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MegaELECTRICEYE It was a ONE YEAR surplus - which never would have happened at all if it weren't for Gingrich.
And by the way - it is "their" not "there"
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
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MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Yes and Newt would like to sell you some Real Estate on the moon also. Newt was in office for 2 of those budget years(fiscal 1998 & 1999) But yet he claims credit for 2 balanced budgets that were passed after he left office (fiscal 2000&2001) according to tax Justice Bob McLintyre it was actually the 1993 budget which all Republicans opposed that laid the ground work for Clintons balance budget that in time became a surplus.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 Please explain how the wars were unconstitutional since both were voted on and approved by Congress.
Clinton did NOT give Bush a surplus. Do you know the difference between surplus/deficit and the debt? We have been in debt since WW2. The surplus was for 1 budget year. We still had Trillions in debt. Deregulation under Bush? Bush called for investigations of Mae and Mac - u tube it yourself.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Wars can only be declared. The war in Iraq wasn't formally declared by the congress. Point about the unconstitutionality of Iraq war has been endlessly made. And if you don't know what something like the Bush doctrine is, you are ill informed. Iraq did not have WMD, therefore the reasoning behind an undeclared war in Iraq was unconstitutional. So congress did not formally declare war on Iraq, there was no WMD, Bush unilaterally pursued U.S. military interests.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
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MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 It was GOVERNMENT that forced banks to make bad loans under the guise of "fairness" rather than get stuck with bad loans - banks packaged them and resold them to other banks. Please explain how that is Bush's fault if you can. And once again - the revenue "lost" under the Bush tax cuts over a 10 year span would not have been enough to pay for ONE of Obama's "stimulus packages" And if the Bush tax cuts were so horrible, why did the DEMOCRATS vote to continue them?
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit The bush tax cuts for the rich give more money to millionaires who hold on to that money, which does little to the economy. If it weren't for the bush tax cut for the rich, the same sum of money would be flowing in the U.S. economy, stimulating the economy. Not to mention the bush tax cut for the rich has put on things like pell grant, unemployment insurance and the EPA under fire. Talk about priorities. Republican leaders are truly disgusting imbeciles.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 How did tax cuts "GIVE" money to anyone? It allowed the people who EARNED it to keep it. And why did Obama renew the tax cuts? For years Democrats claimed it only helped the rich - Obama said we can't repeal it - it would raise taxes on the middle class. Which is it? was it tax cuts for the rich or middle class - DEMOCRATS cant get their story straight. why cant democrats understand that raising taxes leads to LESS revenue for the government ?!
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit How would Raising Taxes meaning more money. Be less Revenue for the Gov. And republicans said Tax cuts would create Jobs ok where are they? The tax cuts would Raise taxes on the middle class if the top 1% are getting a tax cuts.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
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@MegaELECTRICEYE Under Reagan's tax cuts revenue SKYROCKETED to the federal government. (unfortunately congress spent it all) Why did revenue go up with a tax cut? People had more $ to spend and invest. The investment led to 7 million new jobs created under Reagan. Each paid taxes.
TAX RATE X ECONOMIC ACTIVITY = REVENUE
70 X 400 = 28,000
35 X 1000 = 35,000
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Federal Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base!
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
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@MegaELECTRICEYE A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Federal Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base! Taxes are not to make things "fair" but to raise revenue which increase with lower taxes !
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
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sh00008 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit The story of the democrats is they work for the American people, not a few corporate millionaires and billionaires. Wow, raising taxes leads to less revenue? If taxes are synonymous to revenue, increasing taxes would be an increase in revenue. They are directly proportional. How confused are you man? Revenue and tax are the same words in the government. Democrats want to increase revenue by taxing the rich vultures, it is that simple.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
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MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 They are confused enough not to understand Gov. That is why they vote Republican and buy into their fear and smear. Such as Libeals are socialist, then use a few Jesus words to keep the sheep blind dumb stupid. While they take them down to the toilet. The republicans have always been for the party of the rich and by the rich. You did did hear what Mitt Robme said about the poor today.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 "democrats is they work for the American people, not a few corporate millionaires and billionaires" - oh - so that is why Obama has $45,000 a plate fund raisers - right? Ever hear of Jeffrey Immelt CEO of G.E. which paid 0 Corporate taxes? - He is Obama's economic advisor. Or Billionaire George Soros? Or Democrat Jon Corzine (Who Obama called the smartest man he knows) who "misplaced" 1.2 BILLION dollars of investor money.....OPEN YOUR EYES !
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 I used to think it was funny talking economics with democrats - now it's just sad. Take a course in economics and taxation. - seriously. Under Reagan's tax cuts revenue SKYROCKETED to the federal government. (unfortunately congress spent it all)
Why did revenue go up with a tax cut? People had more $ to spend and invest. The investment led to 7 million new jobs created under Reagan. Each paid taxes.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit You need to open your eyes because Obama's tax proposal is lower than Reagen's. Again, voting republican is the same thing as voting for the corporate millionaires and billionaires. Republican leaders have done little or nothing for the 98% of Americans during bush era and are still on an agenda do nothing if they ever get elected. These vultures are corporate prostitutes, just look at how hard it is for them to pass the payroll TAX CUT for that same 98% of Americans.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
@sh00008 Payroll Tax Cut?! Do you even know what the Payroll Tax funds?
SOCIAL SECURITY! Democrats used to call the Payroll Tax "Contributions to Social Security" Now for political grandstanding they call it a "Payroll Tax Cut"
Social Security is already headed for economic collapse and the Democrats want to defund it further by portraying this as a Middle Class tax cut! They are ROBBING SOCIAL SECURITY so they can say they gave the Middle class a tax cut. And people like YOU believe them!
MetalDetroit 2 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit When SS was first introduced, your kind would blurt out, "Socialism!" After taking out millions of old retirees out of poverty and giving them hope at old age, it is the SAME democrats who are out to get them. Your paranoia is as silly as the idiot Sarah Palin blurting out "death panel" when healthcare for all was being proposed. Don't you see what democrats are for? They create programs to help the needy and victims of malpractice. Your kind is only the prostitute of the rich.
sh00008 2 weeks ago
@sh00008
TAX RATE X ECONOMIC ACTIVITY = REVENUE
70 X 400 = 28,000
35 X 1000 = 35,000
A lowered tax rate will lead to increased economic activity which brings in more revenue. In fact - Tax Revenue in under Reagan was higher than it's ever been. If the tax rate were 90% would you have an increase in Revenue? NO ! Because it would lead to massive layoffs and a disinsentive to invest and work. LOWERING the tax base!
I recommend Thomas Sowel's book on Economics for you.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit You talk about overall tax cut for everyone and how I am saying tax hike on everyone, when I am not saying that at all. Your misrepresentation of my position and then arguing against it simply a straw man. I am only saying higher the tax rate for the wealthy 2%. The ratio of per dollar tax cut to economic activity is highest when the poorest are given tax cuts. When tax cut is given to the very rich, they tend to hold the money, hence little economic activity.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
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@MetalDetroit NO. Democrats are reasonable moderates; that's why, even when there is a idiotic republican proposal like the Bush tax cut for the rich, they hear republicans out. They give republican ideas a chance. They try to show idiot republican leaders by example that their tax code do not create jobs but stagnate the economy. That same sum of money could be on the hands of the middle class who has to spend that money on essential items such as food and bills.
sh00008 3 weeks ago
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MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Yes this is very true and I want diagree with you there. But the problem here is the Republican party use God Christian moral values. For the purpose of political gain. The GOP set that bar high on the moral issues. This is a joke here, also it exposed the GOP how they are manipulating Christians in this country. No sin falls short in the glory of God. NOT to the GOP!!!
MegaELECTRICEYE 1 month ago
@MegaELECTRICEYE So what are you saying? that it is better to have NO standards than to set high standards and fall short? Vote Democrat ! We have NO standards.....
And for all the people that have called Gingrich a hypocrite - Do they say the same thing about JFK or Martin Luther King? Because both were WELL known to have had numerous affairs - yet portray themselves as decent family men.
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit The way the GOP use God and high moral standards is called a hypocrite. Big difference in the democrats and their no Standards At lease they are not using God and Religion for manipulation. How can someone cast stones at someone else sins when they have the same??
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago
@MegaELECTRICEYE Casting stones? Clinton was impeached for perjury, John Edwards is on trial for using campaign money to pay off a mistress and an advisor.
STRANGE: Democrats always supported W.V. Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who was a Grand Dragon of the KKK. They say he had changed his ways. But when Gingrich says he has changed his ways he is called a liar and a hypocrite.
You tell me - which is worse: A Republican who cheated on his wife, or a Democrat who ran the KKK...
MetalDetroit 3 weeks ago
@MetalDetroit Clinton was Impeached because he lied about SEX with the White House Intern. Yes John Edward was a very bad boy. And yes Democrat Byrd Like Republican David Duke had ties to the KKK. What is worse is using God and the Bible to hide behind your sins. Gingrich has changed his ways just to get a Vote, and dumb sheep buy into his I found GOD BS.
MegaELECTRICEYE 3 weeks ago