Wow some people really do have no clue! And talk crap! - the ones with the negative comments on here I'm talkin about!! Losers! These guys rock! They are legends you idiots!
In the 70's it was "fashionable to put interracial bands together. A lot of the drummers in Black bands were replaced with White drummer because of race, not talent. Even Sly Stone's manager made it a point to find a White drummer. This type of activity makes drummers not like one another - when most drummers are cool with one another, but the music business pits us against one another. Can you imagine a Black drummer being placed in an all White rock group b/c a manager is Black?
i can imagine a black drummer being replaced because he was not as good as the white guy who replaced him, and vice versa. Ignorance and arrogance makes drummers not like one another in my opinion
Jeff Porcaro, Phil Collins, Tony Thompson, Steve Ferrone, Steve Gadd, Jerry Marotta.......The list of awesome drummers goes on forever. Those are just some of my favorites, however.
you mean to tell me that a manager who wanted a white dummer for Sly`s band was able to make a race based decision over the probably objections of Sly and the rest of the band ? I find that hard to believe .
sad...but true! Even nowadays: A few Years ago The Management of Craig David wanted to fire a white Guitarist in Craigs Band to replace him with a black Musician
I think this guy is talking about Andy Newmark with Sly Stone .... if so , this guy is way off base ... Andy got the gig by auditioning for Sly in a hotel room ... after he got the gig , he went on to record the Fresh album ..not one of Sly`s biggest hit machine records but definitely considered a seminal moment in funk ... and Andy`s drumming on the Fresh album is straight up slammin funk
JR is good. But please note, on Rufus' "Tell Me Something Good" the actual studio session was played by Ali Brown and the JR was put in the group (Rufus) because they wanted an interracial group. JR Robinson is still good.
Throw in Philly's Earl Young, whose sound was sampled endlessly on '90s house cuts. L.A.'s James Gadsen had that chunky southern sound on Tavares' records. Along with J.R., these are drummers whose sound I know IMMEDIATELY when I hear them. And how can we forget Benny Benjamin?? His licks and rolls helped MAKE the '60s Motown Sound!
Both of them are the best groovy drummers in modern drum history.
I love JR's style more, especially in ballad.
but I can't help to agree jeff is the natural born genious groove master.
JR is not technician, but very sensitive in dynamic and very musicial in song structure like drum 'composer' maybe he starts music on piano first. JR is speciallist in steady laid back, and very powerful, driving groove.
Yeah Yeah, but who's the singer. She ain't bad (quite good actually) but she AIN'T no Chaka Khan - but close. John kinda missed a beat there towards the end, but he's a great drummer. For sheer groovability it was Porcaro, funkyness must be Steve 'god' Gadd, but for utter, driving, metronomic precision and power - JR!!!!
Two OF the best, but not the two best. You're leaving out Steve Ferrone, Jeff Porcaro, and James Brown's groovemaster, Clyde Stubblefield, the most sampled drummer in music history.
Stubblefield was awesome! Ferrone, from England, did a lot with Tom Petty. And wow! Jeff Porcaro had to be one of the most groovin' drummers ever! Very few could play a shuffle like he could! And, IMHO, one of the most underrated and underappreciated drummers ever is Manny Elias, the carrot-topped drummer who was once in Tears For Fears. Remember him? His half-time shuffle in "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" is an all-time great groove!
Ferrone was the backbone of AWB, one of the best R&B groups ever, and check out all of his work with Chaka Khan, 1978-1984. We also forgot one of the most recorded drummers of all time, Bernard Purdie. There are so many greats; we could talk ad infinitum.
Well, both are 2 different drummers and both play all types of styles. Both are equally good in their own right. Both have claimed their rightful place and respect in the drumming world. Both are good drumming role models.
Yeah, that is true, one thing i knew is that there was a lot of competition going on with this 2 groove masters, they both played with the same artists.
Wow some people really do have no clue! And talk crap! - the ones with the negative comments on here I'm talkin about!! Losers! These guys rock! They are legends you idiots!
VictoriaWilliamson82 5 months ago
Lol the singer has NO charisma at all !!!
Zazquatch1 11 months ago
should turn up JR, he's the only one who isn't a dork...
gwb911 1 year ago
this its groove
TheCocovazquez 1 year ago
living legend.
and he's one of the nicest people i've ever met
Lifesucksdie123 2 years ago
steve ferrone too, especially when with chaka kahn
AlexMartin011 2 years ago
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j19j146 2 years ago
In the 70's it was "fashionable to put interracial bands together. A lot of the drummers in Black bands were replaced with White drummer because of race, not talent. Even Sly Stone's manager made it a point to find a White drummer. This type of activity makes drummers not like one another - when most drummers are cool with one another, but the music business pits us against one another. Can you imagine a Black drummer being placed in an all White rock group b/c a manager is Black?
fnkdrmmr 3 years ago
i can imagine a black drummer being replaced because he was not as good as the white guy who replaced him, and vice versa. Ignorance and arrogance makes drummers not like one another in my opinion
zuubeddjp 3 years ago
Jeff Porcaro, Phil Collins, Tony Thompson, Steve Ferrone, Steve Gadd, Jerry Marotta.......The list of awesome drummers goes on forever. Those are just some of my favorites, however.
MisterKamikazi 3 years ago
you mean to tell me that a manager who wanted a white dummer for Sly`s band was able to make a race based decision over the probably objections of Sly and the rest of the band ? I find that hard to believe .
sweetfly66 2 years ago
sad...but true! Even nowadays: A few Years ago The Management of Craig David wanted to fire a white Guitarist in Craigs Band to replace him with a black Musician
triondrummer 2 years ago
I think this guy is talking about Andy Newmark with Sly Stone .... if so , this guy is way off base ... Andy got the gig by auditioning for Sly in a hotel room ... after he got the gig , he went on to record the Fresh album ..not one of Sly`s biggest hit machine records but definitely considered a seminal moment in funk ... and Andy`s drumming on the Fresh album is straight up slammin funk
sweetfly66 2 years ago
JR is good. But please note, on Rufus' "Tell Me Something Good" the actual studio session was played by Ali Brown and the JR was put in the group (Rufus) because they wanted an interracial group. JR Robinson is still good.
fnkdrmmr 3 years ago
oh i thought he was added because he was a bad ass and their previous drummer was a douche.. :D noted though.
zuubeddjp 3 years ago
iv'e met john before. real nice guy.....he was born in the same town I live in now. very respected R&B drummer in my eyes.
collisionforce 3 years ago
Throw in Philly's Earl Young, whose sound was sampled endlessly on '90s house cuts. L.A.'s James Gadsen had that chunky southern sound on Tavares' records. Along with J.R., these are drummers whose sound I know IMMEDIATELY when I hear them. And how can we forget Benny Benjamin?? His licks and rolls helped MAKE the '60s Motown Sound!
CreoleCW 3 years ago
But jeff can express any feeling of the groove. He's more rock an pop speciallist than JR.
But he can push and lay back any part of
drums and he can even control amount of that
note placement in one song too.
I really respect JR and I miss Jeff, too.
scentline 3 years ago
Both of them are the best groovy drummers in modern drum history.
I love JR's style more, especially in ballad.
but I can't help to agree jeff is the natural born genious groove master.
JR is not technician, but very sensitive in dynamic and very musicial in song structure like drum 'composer' maybe he starts music on piano first. JR is speciallist in steady laid back, and very powerful, driving groove.
scentline 3 years ago
Top Drummer
siobhandonnelly 3 years ago
Yeah Yeah, but who's the singer. She ain't bad (quite good actually) but she AIN'T no Chaka Khan - but close. John kinda missed a beat there towards the end, but he's a great drummer. For sheer groovability it was Porcaro, funkyness must be Steve 'god' Gadd, but for utter, driving, metronomic precision and power - JR!!!!
adamnoriginalname 3 years ago
Jeff porcaro/steve gadd/John jr Robinson
Whos that guy on the first Al jarreau album?? He is amazing. Check out the meters too.
There are loads of great drummers who can groove. love em all
doubts 3 years ago
Buddy Rich, Bonham, Paice, Baker, Corky Laing.
drumsanddrumming 3 years ago
JR Robinson and Tony Thompson, formerly of Chic, are the two best R&B drummers ever. Who agrees?
gymman1031 3 years ago
Two OF the best, but not the two best. You're leaving out Steve Ferrone, Jeff Porcaro, and James Brown's groovemaster, Clyde Stubblefield, the most sampled drummer in music history.
yulelovethebeats 3 years ago
Stubblefield was awesome! Ferrone, from England, did a lot with Tom Petty. And wow! Jeff Porcaro had to be one of the most groovin' drummers ever! Very few could play a shuffle like he could! And, IMHO, one of the most underrated and underappreciated drummers ever is Manny Elias, the carrot-topped drummer who was once in Tears For Fears. Remember him? His half-time shuffle in "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" is an all-time great groove!
gymman1031 3 years ago
Ferrone was the backbone of AWB, one of the best R&B groups ever, and check out all of his work with Chaka Khan, 1978-1984. We also forgot one of the most recorded drummers of all time, Bernard Purdie. There are so many greats; we could talk ad infinitum.
yulelovethebeats 3 years ago
Ferrone was and is the man...Incredible groove!
swmuzik 2 years ago
No guys..the best drummer is Joe Satriani..ohh is he a drummer?
d3v4 3 years ago
Best drummer ever ''Paco Sery''. Watch the ''ZAWINUL'' video's.
John robinson ''second best''.
vukkie 3 years ago
yes 1. jeff porcaro 2. robinson.. But the best drummer at this moment is Gadd
ThoomTube 3 years ago
Sorry the groove master of all times is Jeff Porcaro
JRcmty 3 years ago
Well, both are 2 different drummers and both play all types of styles. Both are equally good in their own right. Both have claimed their rightful place and respect in the drumming world. Both are good drumming role models.
judedavid 3 years ago
Yeah, that is true, one thing i knew is that there was a lot of competition going on with this 2 groove masters, they both played with the same artists.
JRcmty 3 years ago
The groove master as always, john Jr Rbinson
GDRS777 3 years ago