If we had kept the Harriers we could av put them on our new carrier when it is launched, now all we are goin to have is the worlds biggest helicopter carrier...what a bloody joke !! I can just see all the other countries laughing at us...useless government.
nothing like leaving our selves open for attack in a hostile world...
now we have no air craft carriers, then as a joke we offer to sell the americans our entire fleet of harriers for something like 70 million dollars!!! what a fucking joke..
to be replaced by a mothballed carrier build and a bunch of F-35c's that are over priced and not even a capable air craft..
@chezzylee Total agree with you, the talk is the new carriers might not get aircraft until as late as 2030.........at least the frogs can fly their own aircraft of our carrier...what we gonna fly off theirs when we lend it ?.............The Fleet Air Arm is dead......thank you, you clever MP's...........Lions led by Donkeys as always......you are a disgrace to Britian........lining your own pockets while you destroy our defence.
@NAIAD49 you know what, it makes me sick, we are a laughing stock to everyone.
harriers cost 7 million a year to maintain, which is very cheap. and being one of the aircraft carriers is pretty much complete nearly, we have nothing to put on them lol..
you'll see, when middle east ends up in full blown war, we will be that over pushed, argentina will fancy their chances again, i can see it happening..
i would of loved to be at the meeting that decided the fate of such a great ship. (Q) "WE NEED TO SAVE SOME MONEY ?" (A) "GET RID OF THE ONLY AIRCRAFT CARRIER" (Q) WHAT ABOUT THE ONLY VERTICAL TAKE OFF AIRCRAFT?" (A) " NOT A PROBLEM WE WILL GET RID OF THEM AS WELL". well at least we can rely on the French!!!!!. the ozzy's are offering our redundant sailors jobs at least they look after there forces. SHAME ON YOU DAVID SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
gave my whole life serving in the surface fleet have two sons serving now . it breaks my heart to see the old girl go . thank you for your service , rest in peace .
we need a total new government mate its funny how the government in present talks of reforms but they wont reform parliament will they ? these cunts boil my blood they dont care about the people of this nation all they care for is money we need to strike out man let them no we wont just sit back and let them fuck us all over we are all proud hard working British people and the government is letting people laugh at us immigrants have more rights than we do in our own nation..
they should let me take charge i fucking promise id sort this fuck hole of a nation out id fuck all these immigrants off give every British man a job first and foremost id also fuck all these dumb ass democrats off there destroying our nation from the inside and i dont think people fucking realize how greedy these fuckers are there not making decisions for the nation but for themselves so that they may retire wealthy i fucking hate them id bring this country back to life or id die trying...
the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
@Dan213456 Yes, that is what the people running our country are good at, claim they are saving money by flogging our defence gear...........then wasting much more than they save with stupid decisions.
3 million pound a day to use RAF aircraft from Italy, bet it would be cheaper using our Harriers from illustrious............oh....forgot the Condems want Lusty for a helicopter carrier..........that makes good value for money......an aircraft carrier only able to fly off helicopters.
Not to mention our inability now to retake the Falkland Islands in the event of an invasion. Mr cameron may say that he thinks the Islanders should remain British, but practicality trumps ideology.
@Myles0Harcourt We have two supercarriers currently building and going into active service by 2016, We have a now signed a military 22 year contract with the french, allowing us to utlise their carriers in an emergency and vice versa, the idea of another situation like the Falklands is highly unlikely becasue on the Falklands, there is a soldier for every 2 people.
@Myles0Harcourt Look it up, even with the falklands, we can do what we are doing in libya with lauching aircraft from NATO countries, so it's all good, obviously, i don't WANT that to happen, but hey, shit happens i guess, thanks mate.
@georgiepore If the middle east kicks off big time how can we defend our nationals.
We are giving up our military power..............we don't need carriers or fighter planes for ten years according to the ConDems..................this will come back to haunt you.........you liars.........how can you know the future.
The Libyan situation shows up what liars you are.............I was going to call you fools, but you are not fools, only liars.
If I was in charge of counter espionage I would be checking out members of the government to make sure they were not working for future hostile powers....... the result would probably be that they are just morons who failed history and who think that the Ark is the Dover ferry, but its still worth checking out.
@jonboy1973 They are gamblers...........and liars............they are leaving British people and British interests open to attack over the next ten years without the Harriers and Carriers.
Thats the gamble part..................they are not saving money by cutting them, they are actually wasting money.........this was not a strategic defence review at all....that is the lie part.
@NAIAD49 totally agree,as i understand it,the fleet was cut by three type 23's a few years ago,the blow was softened by the promise of new carriers,we are now to get one carrier, sacrifice a brand new bay class vessel,4 very capable type 22's,moth balling an Albion,losing the Ark,and either lusty or Ocean...not to mention the raping of the '45's....it is an absolute bloody disgrace,have the learnt nothing form 1982?
@jonboy1973 The decision is made Lusty goes in 2014,she is having the same 20 million refit as Ark had.
We get to keep Ocean instead.......they just do not want to keep any Carriers, thats some strategic decision!
I hate to say it but Tornado should have gone and Harrier retained(harrier more use and better value).
Type 22's modernised and axed.Type 45 cut by Labour from 12 ships to 6 ships, thus doubling the cost of each ship built.......Argies now have 10 year window from the Condems.
@NAIAD49 only in Britain my friend,we send aid to India,and yet they have the finances to build their own carrier!!,we find 8 million to help Ireland,pay 45 million a day into the EU,just for the privilage of having them dictate laws to us,there is something wrong here,or is it just me?
@jonboy1973 no mate i agree its fucking stupid there all a bunch of fucks i dont understand how they think this could be helping making us weaker especially with he rise of terrorism i mean we have no mean of defending out aircraft carriers we now have no carrier born fighters we need to rise up man for real they aint listening to the people there just doing wots best for their live there doing wots going to make them rich in the long run fucking wankers well i aint going to sit silent..
@jonboy1973 apparently not mate i dont think people understand just how weak Britain is right now because of our government they are cutting everything we need man everything that made us strong is gone and it will continue to go unless we finally rise up and say fuck you they claim to be in the service of the people i can tell you now that these cuts to our defense are making people scared i mean its not the government that will be fighting is it its us the people while these fuckers are safe.
The Falklands are fine they have the type 45 destroyer over there and it is capable of destroying all the Argentinian air force :)
SCOTTovHX2 11 hours ago
If we had kept the Harriers we could av put them on our new carrier when it is launched, now all we are goin to have is the worlds biggest helicopter carrier...what a bloody joke !! I can just see all the other countries laughing at us...useless government.
TyphoonDelta1 3 days ago
come on chaps, we must keep the best arseholes in whitehall and the money saved will go towards their bonuses
grazeleymann 6 days ago
nothing like leaving our selves open for attack in a hostile world...
now we have no air craft carriers, then as a joke we offer to sell the americans our entire fleet of harriers for something like 70 million dollars!!! what a fucking joke..
to be replaced by a mothballed carrier build and a bunch of F-35c's that are over priced and not even a capable air craft..
wtf are we doing as a nation, please tell me!!
chezzylee 1 week ago
@chezzylee Total agree with you, the talk is the new carriers might not get aircraft until as late as 2030.........at least the frogs can fly their own aircraft of our carrier...what we gonna fly off theirs when we lend it ?.............The Fleet Air Arm is dead......thank you, you clever MP's...........Lions led by Donkeys as always......you are a disgrace to Britian........lining your own pockets while you destroy our defence.
NAIAD49 1 week ago
@NAIAD49 you know what, it makes me sick, we are a laughing stock to everyone.
harriers cost 7 million a year to maintain, which is very cheap. and being one of the aircraft carriers is pretty much complete nearly, we have nothing to put on them lol..
you'll see, when middle east ends up in full blown war, we will be that over pushed, argentina will fancy their chances again, i can see it happening..
as for the french...... don't get me started lol
chezzylee 1 week ago
Shame to loose the Harriers and the mighty Ark royal, but do remember not we carry out operations with the french on their aircraft carriers
HAZZASIB 1 month ago
i would of loved to be at the meeting that decided the fate of such a great ship. (Q) "WE NEED TO SAVE SOME MONEY ?" (A) "GET RID OF THE ONLY AIRCRAFT CARRIER" (Q) WHAT ABOUT THE ONLY VERTICAL TAKE OFF AIRCRAFT?" (A) " NOT A PROBLEM WE WILL GET RID OF THEM AS WELL". well at least we can rely on the French!!!!!. the ozzy's are offering our redundant sailors jobs at least they look after there forces. SHAME ON YOU DAVID SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
towerseyboy 1 month ago
Argentina better not think in getting the Falklands back to them again, now's not a good time for the british to defend their islands.
ZeroFilth 2 months ago
Remember,the UK has to feed a bunch of disloyal immigrants.
nsminc 3 months ago
Who'd of thought the tories would be the ones that are "weak on defence" LOL. Oh well, now the savings can go and be spent on the NHS.
blanchelincoln 4 months ago
gave my whole life serving in the surface fleet have two sons serving now . it breaks my heart to see the old girl go . thank you for your service , rest in peace .
bigrider2806 4 months ago
we need a total new government mate its funny how the government in present talks of reforms but they wont reform parliament will they ? these cunts boil my blood they dont care about the people of this nation all they care for is money we need to strike out man let them no we wont just sit back and let them fuck us all over we are all proud hard working British people and the government is letting people laugh at us immigrants have more rights than we do in our own nation..
iSmeLLbUd 8 months ago
they should let me take charge i fucking promise id sort this fuck hole of a nation out id fuck all these immigrants off give every British man a job first and foremost id also fuck all these dumb ass democrats off there destroying our nation from the inside and i dont think people fucking realize how greedy these fuckers are there not making decisions for the nation but for themselves so that they may retire wealthy i fucking hate them id bring this country back to life or id die trying...
iSmeLLbUd 8 months ago
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the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
Dan213456 10 months ago
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the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
Dan213456 10 months ago
the worst decision by the britsh government was to get rid of the harriers and Ark Royal. The harriers and the Ark would have been the best tool to use in libya rather thatn the government wasting money and flying a couple of tornados on a 3000 mile round trip.
Dan213456 10 months ago 7
@Dan213456 Yes, that is what the people running our country are good at, claim they are saving money by flogging our defence gear...........then wasting much more than they save with stupid decisions.
3 million pound a day to use RAF aircraft from Italy, bet it would be cheaper using our Harriers from illustrious............oh....forgot the Condems want Lusty for a helicopter carrier..........that makes good value for money......an aircraft carrier only able to fly off helicopters.
NAIAD49 10 months ago 5
@Dan213456
Not to mention our inability now to retake the Falkland Islands in the event of an invasion. Mr cameron may say that he thinks the Islanders should remain British, but practicality trumps ideology.
Myles0Harcourt 7 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt There is a airfield on the falklands islands.. With fighters!
ShowPolitics 6 months ago
@ShowPolitics
The whole strategy depends on being able to hold the airfields long enough to fly in reinforcements.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt We have two supercarriers currently building and going into active service by 2016, We have a now signed a military 22 year contract with the french, allowing us to utlise their carriers in an emergency and vice versa, the idea of another situation like the Falklands is highly unlikely becasue on the Falklands, there is a soldier for every 2 people.
ShowPolitics 6 months ago
@ShowPolitics
I hope you are right.
Myles0Harcourt 6 months ago
@Myles0Harcourt Look it up, even with the falklands, we can do what we are doing in libya with lauching aircraft from NATO countries, so it's all good, obviously, i don't WANT that to happen, but hey, shit happens i guess, thanks mate.
ShowPolitics 5 months ago
i think the government is run by ediots if we go to war again we not got no fighters jets and no carriers
we are struck big time
georgiepore 1 year ago
@georgiepore If the middle east kicks off big time how can we defend our nationals.
We are giving up our military power..............we don't need carriers or fighter planes for ten years according to the ConDems..................this will come back to haunt you.........you liars.........how can you know the future.
The Libyan situation shows up what liars you are.............I was going to call you fools, but you are not fools, only liars.
NAIAD49 1 year ago
Strange that Ark Royal 3 was sunk by U-81,never thought that Ark 5 would be sunk by U-lying Tory!
elswick1542 1 year ago 2
If I was in charge of counter espionage I would be checking out members of the government to make sure they were not working for future hostile powers....... the result would probably be that they are just morons who failed history and who think that the Ark is the Dover ferry, but its still worth checking out.
clive3262 1 year ago
@clive3262 Very good point.....it does make you wonder.
Cambridge and Oxford educated..........means jack shit when it comes to defence matters by the looks of it.
NAIAD49 1 year ago 3
I agree with everyone else.
Sad, stupid, ridiculous and short sighted.
Britain has gone from having (debateably) the second most powerful navy in the world to barely having a navy at all.
The sooner the next elections come, the better. (although can you relly on labour either...)
CoffeeandCocoa 1 year ago
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iSmeLLbUd 8 months ago
David Cam-MORON and his government have lost the plot.
There is a difference between making spending cuts and being stupid.
Our government has been very stupid
I also agree that the Tornado should have gone before the Harrier
ToonandBBfan 1 year ago
what IS our government playing at?
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 They are gamblers...........and liars............they are leaving British people and British interests open to attack over the next ten years without the Harriers and Carriers.
Thats the gamble part..................they are not saving money by cutting them, they are actually wasting money.........this was not a strategic defence review at all....that is the lie part.
NAIAD49 1 second ago
NAIAD49 1 year ago
@NAIAD49 totally agree,as i understand it,the fleet was cut by three type 23's a few years ago,the blow was softened by the promise of new carriers,we are now to get one carrier, sacrifice a brand new bay class vessel,4 very capable type 22's,moth balling an Albion,losing the Ark,and either lusty or Ocean...not to mention the raping of the '45's....it is an absolute bloody disgrace,have the learnt nothing form 1982?
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 The decision is made Lusty goes in 2014,she is having the same 20 million refit as Ark had.
We get to keep Ocean instead.......they just do not want to keep any Carriers, thats some strategic decision!
I hate to say it but Tornado should have gone and Harrier retained(harrier more use and better value).
Type 22's modernised and axed.Type 45 cut by Labour from 12 ships to 6 ships, thus doubling the cost of each ship built.......Argies now have 10 year window from the Condems.
NAIAD49 1 year ago
@NAIAD49 only in Britain my friend,we send aid to India,and yet they have the finances to build their own carrier!!,we find 8 million to help Ireland,pay 45 million a day into the EU,just for the privilage of having them dictate laws to us,there is something wrong here,or is it just me?
jonboy1973 1 year ago
@jonboy1973 no mate i agree its fucking stupid there all a bunch of fucks i dont understand how they think this could be helping making us weaker especially with he rise of terrorism i mean we have no mean of defending out aircraft carriers we now have no carrier born fighters we need to rise up man for real they aint listening to the people there just doing wots best for their live there doing wots going to make them rich in the long run fucking wankers well i aint going to sit silent..
iSmeLLbUd 8 months ago
@jonboy1973 apparently not mate i dont think people understand just how weak Britain is right now because of our government they are cutting everything we need man everything that made us strong is gone and it will continue to go unless we finally rise up and say fuck you they claim to be in the service of the people i can tell you now that these cuts to our defense are making people scared i mean its not the government that will be fighting is it its us the people while these fuckers are safe.
iSmeLLbUd 8 months ago
@jonboy1973 Same thing they have been playing at for 60 years,the fool.
elswick1542 1 year ago