To me, Karl Richter was one of the Greatest Organists and "Bach" and "Handel" conductors ever. It take great discipline to conduct this kind of "Baroque" music and Choirs. He left us far too soon, what a great loss to the World. I believe the recording was made in Munich Cathedral if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, this is music at it's best.
Actually, I think this version is much better to just listen to without being distracted by Richter's rather fierce and military style. It just works and the result is excellent. Those trumpets are fabulous.
he was the most famous bach's specialist.. he baet mayby a little slow but when you hear modern, you have to confess they are disrecpectfull of singers (and musicians).. I have sing many time in choir and after, directed one this monument of music and I have to confess taht he have inspered me...
he was the famous bach's specialist... no one have recorded so good version. after having singing in choir, I have conduction one and confess he have inspired me...
I realy wish this music was still popular I.m tired of all the crappy countary music Rapand similar bring these legendery pieces back to the main stream.but very nice if i listen to.Johanes Brahmes Opera 39.
OMG, his control seems more like Darth Vader's one handed strangle choke, lifting his victim's feet off the ground. And is he reprimanding someone a 0:13? I can just see him, eyes ablaze, shooting purple bolts of lightning out of his fingers and frying half the violin section as he disintegrates the First Chair... :o
Have you ever heard about DISCIPLINE? Discipline and many hours of investigation on the part of Richter, of much training and rehearsals is behind this sublime performance and all of them like this. Everything fits as ina a clockwork. Richter's "militar" gesture is the product of discipline, but so it is the whole renderization too. It is not easy to lead and move more than a hundred people and achieve this results. He was not a conductor, but a leader.
Bach never performed this work after writing it. He did not feel that the musicians available to him were up to the task, and he refused (in typical Bach fashion) to hear it performed in less than a perfect performance.
A los apocalípticos: Charles Rosen, en "The Classic Style", habla de la orquesta que Mozart añoraba para sus obras, y que jamás tuvo: "He is quite clear about what he wanted: 40 violins, 10 violas, 6 celli, 10 double-basses (!) and double wind on each part. Even remembering that all the instruments of the time were a little softer than those of the present day, this is still a force almost twice than which any conductor dares to use now for a Mozart symphony". Aplíquese a Bach.
Anyone else notice the almost comical contrast between the way the conductor looks most of the time (like a drill seargent or something, lol!!), and the sublime nature of the sounds being produced by the ensemble?? His methods obviously work - this is a spirited, passionate and professional performance of Bach's masterpiece, but it just looks so funny to see him directing it like a mechanical soldier!!
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The orchestra is fine, but the choir sounds like it was picked up at a high school. The men's section at 2:30 is mildly restrained yelling. Round tones, gentlemen!
It's the 'Müchener Bach-Chor' - one of the best amateur choirs ever assembled in History...
I own one copy of the 2006 DVD release of this particular performance, and I may assure you that the sound quality of these video clips doesn't make it full justice - though (needless to say) I am extremely grateful to Bacholoji for downloading them here!
Mozart, Haydn, and their contemporaries discovered Bach's music before Mendelssohn as it was widely circulated in manuscript but had not been printed. Their discovery of Bach's contrapuntal genius led them to start writing fugues and canons in their own works. Also, to say that this is not baroque music is appallingly inaccurate--this is the paragon of good baroque style: strong pulsing bass, florid melodic lines rooted in good counterpoint, and an unobtrusive middle which fills out the sound.
Como tantos en su época, componía por encima de las posibilidades de los medios de que disponía. Ya le habría gustado disponer de los que usa aquí Richter. Las versiones originales están muy bien como curiosidad para comprobar cómo Bach podía oír su música, pero también hoy podemos enriquecerla con todos los medios a nuestra disposición. A Bach le habría encantado tener esta orquesta y este coro. Claro que creo que compuso para que, si se puede, se interprete así, y seguro que me quedo corto.
Bach and many composers in his time, lived over the possibilities of his time's instruments. Actually, he even composed many scores without specifying instrument, because he was searching for testing sound, not instruments. His wife Anna Magdalena wrote people didn't give Bach's music the worth it was. In fact, his music was forgotten until Mendelssohn (a Romantic composer!) discovered it. Bach would have loved his music like this, the problem is that he never had such means at his disposal!
Magnificient, those eclectical Bach performations by Richter, who remains to be my favourite, instead those new "original versions". Unfortunately, Bach didn't dispose of such great means, but he would have loved this heavenly way. By the way, do anyone know that "Et Resurrexit" is a real Spanish "Bolero", not that Ravel's one? Guess a Catholic friend of Bach's did St. James' Way being aware of this musical form in Spain, and told it to Bach who, geniously, composed this piece as a homage.
Magníficas, las eclécticas interpretaciones de Karl Richter, que sigue siendo mi favorito en estas grandes obras coral - instrumentales de Bach, por mucho que se hayan puesto de moda las "versiones con instrumentos originales". Saben muchos de quienes dejan sus comentarios que, en "Et Resurrexit" nos hallamos ante un auténtico Bolero Español, y no el de Ravel? Quizás un amigo músico católico que hizo el camino de Santiago, describió esta forma a Bach y éste, muy acertadamente, la incluyó aquí.
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I agree with lepcigo-the choir is for sure too big. And I think Richter conducts a bit like a machine not like a human. But not bad interpretation although.
It is Bach - not the rolling stones. German Baroque must be played like a german military march. Otherwise it is not Baroque. Precision, straight rhythm and, well, machine-like perfection - that is how it is done.
Yes, it is Bach - not Beethoven. That's why the orchestra and choir should be a half that big. You guys have to listen Herreweghe or Koopman. They really know how to play baroque music.
Very good conductor, nice performation. It seems like he wanted to make it in the best way, f.e. Herreweghe became outdated, and Richter got every sound, every part, every detail. Really nice. This part of B minor Mass is done great, but Kyrie its definitely to slow.
He mark the levare not the down beat to create a real frasing.He has to mark like "faster" to keep the flowing and the attack not heavy to kill the direction of the music.
To me, Karl Richter was one of the Greatest Organists and "Bach" and "Handel" conductors ever. It take great discipline to conduct this kind of "Baroque" music and Choirs. He left us far too soon, what a great loss to the World. I believe the recording was made in Munich Cathedral if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, this is music at it's best.
livesteam 10 months ago
Actually, I think this version is much better to just listen to without being distracted by Richter's rather fierce and military style. It just works and the result is excellent. Those trumpets are fabulous.
angietihi 1 year ago 5
excellent what else might we ask for!!!!!!!!!!!
beethomozart 1 year ago 5
he was the most famous bach's specialist.. he baet mayby a little slow but when you hear modern, you have to confess they are disrecpectfull of singers (and musicians).. I have sing many time in choir and after, directed one this monument of music and I have to confess taht he have inspered me...
luisconductor 1 year ago 3
he was the famous bach's specialist... no one have recorded so good version. after having singing in choir, I have conduction one and confess he have inspired me...
luisconductor 1 year ago 3
He is playing it safe with the tempo..it rerally sounds better at speed and if the voices are capable....
choralstuart 1 year ago
I realy wish this music was still popular I.m tired of all the crappy countary music Rapand similar bring these legendery pieces back to the main stream.but very nice if i listen to.Johanes Brahmes Opera 39.
akhmm 1 year ago
OMG, his control seems more like Darth Vader's one handed strangle choke, lifting his victim's feet off the ground. And is he reprimanding someone a 0:13? I can just see him, eyes ablaze, shooting purple bolts of lightning out of his fingers and frying half the violin section as he disintegrates the First Chair... :o
ekchan 1 year ago
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ndw444 1 year ago
les invito escuchar et resurrexit de F. J Haydn
rexangelux 2 years ago
Let's hear it for Bach!! :D
passacaglia28 2 years ago 2
HolyMotherofGrid:
Have you ever heard about DISCIPLINE? Discipline and many hours of investigation on the part of Richter, of much training and rehearsals is behind this sublime performance and all of them like this. Everything fits as ina a clockwork. Richter's "militar" gesture is the product of discipline, but so it is the whole renderization too. It is not easy to lead and move more than a hundred people and achieve this results. He was not a conductor, but a leader.
Miricene 2 years ago 16
Bach never performed this work after writing it. He did not feel that the musicians available to him were up to the task, and he refused (in typical Bach fashion) to hear it performed in less than a perfect performance.
mike32779 2 years ago
He should have heard this one!
feetje2008 2 years ago
Where did you hear/read that? I'm interested in going deeper into Bach's musical life.
bobmusick 2 years ago
A los apocalípticos: Charles Rosen, en "The Classic Style", habla de la orquesta que Mozart añoraba para sus obras, y que jamás tuvo: "He is quite clear about what he wanted: 40 violins, 10 violas, 6 celli, 10 double-basses (!) and double wind on each part. Even remembering that all the instruments of the time were a little softer than those of the present day, this is still a force almost twice than which any conductor dares to use now for a Mozart symphony". Aplíquese a Bach.
Destripatortazos 2 years ago 9
Karl Richter has to be one of the greatest conductors of all time. His motions are so fluid and yet so commanding.
cromorne 2 years ago
No habia corrientes historicistas.
Karl Richter en los 70 fue el mejor.
En sus interpretaciones al organo,despues de 30 años,sigue siendo el mejor interprete de Bach al organo,eso pienso y asi lo digo.
paradoxicus 2 years ago 3
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HolyMotherofGrid - how many do you think share you puerile observation?
lefekir 2 years ago
Anyone else notice the almost comical contrast between the way the conductor looks most of the time (like a drill seargent or something, lol!!), and the sublime nature of the sounds being produced by the ensemble?? His methods obviously work - this is a spirited, passionate and professional performance of Bach's masterpiece, but it just looks so funny to see him directing it like a mechanical soldier!!
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago 7
good point. keep in mind this is typically German in the sixties. I love it!
lefekir 2 years ago
no matter what anyone says about this piece: alive and kicking it is, German in the sixties or not. Genial interpretation by the late Karl.
feetje2008 2 years ago 2
I love 1:06 - 1:19.
EmceeLorder 2 years ago
клаассно,конечно,но не кажется и Вам ,что медленно????!!
KatrinSoprano 2 years ago
"Special Effects: Johann Sebastian Bach"... ;-)
Elhombresombra 2 years ago
Simply marevelous
Karelissa 2 years ago 4
I prefer the slower rate they take it over other faster versions I've heard.
jpckrd 2 years ago 2
This performance was vigorous enough to resurrect the most apathetic sinners
Vibrant coloratura, ritornellos are all in cue with the orchestra. Nice dymanics between ripienists and soloists.
Who conducts this masterpiece?
9level9 3 years ago 3
The late (and great) Karl Richter.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
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The orchestra is fine, but the choir sounds like it was picked up at a high school. The men's section at 2:30 is mildly restrained yelling. Round tones, gentlemen!
matthearn 3 years ago
It's the 'Müchener Bach-Chor' - one of the best amateur choirs ever assembled in History...
I own one copy of the 2006 DVD release of this particular performance, and I may assure you that the sound quality of these video clips doesn't make it full justice - though (needless to say) I am extremely grateful to Bacholoji for downloading them here!
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago 2
That's mature of you.
golgicomplex 3 years ago
Bit slow. Gardiner does a better one.
Lotiolenti 3 years ago
Mozart, Haydn, and their contemporaries discovered Bach's music before Mendelssohn as it was widely circulated in manuscript but had not been printed. Their discovery of Bach's contrapuntal genius led them to start writing fugues and canons in their own works. Also, to say that this is not baroque music is appallingly inaccurate--this is the paragon of good baroque style: strong pulsing bass, florid melodic lines rooted in good counterpoint, and an unobtrusive middle which fills out the sound.
golgicomplex 3 years ago 2
Como tantos en su época, componía por encima de las posibilidades de los medios de que disponía. Ya le habría gustado disponer de los que usa aquí Richter. Las versiones originales están muy bien como curiosidad para comprobar cómo Bach podía oír su música, pero también hoy podemos enriquecerla con todos los medios a nuestra disposición. A Bach le habría encantado tener esta orquesta y este coro. Claro que creo que compuso para que, si se puede, se interprete así, y seguro que me quedo corto.
Miricene 3 years ago 4
Bach and many composers in his time, lived over the possibilities of his time's instruments. Actually, he even composed many scores without specifying instrument, because he was searching for testing sound, not instruments. His wife Anna Magdalena wrote people didn't give Bach's music the worth it was. In fact, his music was forgotten until Mendelssohn (a Romantic composer!) discovered it. Bach would have loved his music like this, the problem is that he never had such means at his disposal!
Miricene 3 years ago 4
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FriendlyCroock 3 years ago
Magnificient, those eclectical Bach performations by Richter, who remains to be my favourite, instead those new "original versions". Unfortunately, Bach didn't dispose of such great means, but he would have loved this heavenly way. By the way, do anyone know that "Et Resurrexit" is a real Spanish "Bolero", not that Ravel's one? Guess a Catholic friend of Bach's did St. James' Way being aware of this musical form in Spain, and told it to Bach who, geniously, composed this piece as a homage.
Miricene 3 years ago 2
Magníficas, las eclécticas interpretaciones de Karl Richter, que sigue siendo mi favorito en estas grandes obras coral - instrumentales de Bach, por mucho que se hayan puesto de moda las "versiones con instrumentos originales". Saben muchos de quienes dejan sus comentarios que, en "Et Resurrexit" nos hallamos ante un auténtico Bolero Español, y no el de Ravel? Quizás un amigo músico católico que hizo el camino de Santiago, describió esta forma a Bach y éste, muy acertadamente, la incluyó aquí.
Miricene 3 years ago 2
Un comentário sumamente pertinente y digno de gran aplauso! Vale!
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
원전연주자 옹호자는 리히터를 비방하지 말아줬으면 한다...어차피 바흐 해석의 다른 길을 걸었을 뿐이다.
zuckerkrank 3 years ago
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I agree with lepcigo-the choir is for sure too big. And I think Richter conducts a bit like a machine not like a human. But not bad interpretation although.
polishpatriot1 4 years ago
It is Bach - not the rolling stones. German Baroque must be played like a german military march. Otherwise it is not Baroque. Precision, straight rhythm and, well, machine-like perfection - that is how it is done.
cw810510 3 years ago 3
Yes, it is Bach - not Beethoven. That's why the orchestra and choir should be a half that big. You guys have to listen Herreweghe or Koopman. They really know how to play baroque music.
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FriendlyCroock 3 years ago
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FriendlyCroock 3 years ago
Bach wasn't a Prussian, and Germany was quite different before the militarism of the Protestant north in the 19th century.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
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the choir is definitely too big for this. and i don't like their tone. no wonder noone is performing Bach like this anymore.
lepicigo 4 years ago
What can I say ? Just beautiful ... Richter's a great musician and conductor.
Pity he left us so young .....
livesteam 4 years ago 5
This piece expresses the joy and glory of Christ's Resurrection beautifully. ^^
AlcyoneFletcher 4 years ago 6
Excellence !!!
Vihor189 4 years ago 3
Ich war geiger des Bach Orchester 1966/67! Unglaublich!
abyrojze 4 years ago 3
Very good conductor, nice performation. It seems like he wanted to make it in the best way, f.e. Herreweghe became outdated, and Richter got every sound, every part, every detail. Really nice. This part of B minor Mass is done great, but Kyrie its definitely to slow.
Thexenion 4 years ago 3
He mark the levare not the down beat to create a real frasing.He has to mark like "faster" to keep the flowing and the attack not heavy to kill the direction of the music.
ilbacioditosca 4 years ago
As powerful as Richter can be! Thanks for posting.
amsbamberg 4 years ago 6
the tenor´s emission is so opend.
chhrisax 4 years ago
Very good
akvino 4 years ago 2
Then so is the orchestra.
thethikboy 5 years ago 2
the choir is behind the beat.
DarienFithos 5 years ago