'The Celtic Fringe: Westminster Elections In Scotland And Wales, 1970-2010, A Complete Record' by Grant Toway is now available on Amazon. At first glance, this book may seem to be primarily a statistical guide to the 1,200+ constituency contests in Scotland and Wales covering the last four decades, but there are also brief comments which accompany each and every result. The author has also compiled a number of appendices as well as providing his own commentary on the unfolding events.
'The Celtic Fringe: Westminster Elections In Scotland And Wales, 1970-2010, A Complete Record' by Grant Toway is now available on Amazon. At first glance, this book may seem to be primarily a statistical guide to the 1,200+ constituency contests in Scotland and Wales covering the last four decades, but there are also brief comments which accompany each and every result. The author has also compiled a number of appendices as well as providing his own commentary on the unfolding events.
'The Celtic Fringe: Westminster Elections In Scotland And Wales, 1970-2010, A Complete Record' by Grant Toway is now available on Amazon. At first glance, this book may seem to be primarily a statistical guide to the 1,200+ constituency contests in Scotland and Wales covering the last four decades, but there are also brief comments which accompany each and every result. The author has also compiled a number of appendices as well as providing his own commentary on the unfolding events.
'The Celtic Fringe: Westminster Elections In Scotland And Wales, 1970-2010, A Complete Record' by Grant Toway is now available on Amazon. At first glance, this book may seem to be primarily a statistical guide to the 1,200+ constituency contests in Scotland and Wales covering the last four decades, but there are also brief comments which accompany each and every result. The author has also compiled a number of appendices as well as providing his own commentary on the unfolding events.
Voted very strongly against an investigation into the illegal Iraq war.
Voted very strongly for introducing ID cards.
Voted strongly for Labour's so called ‘anti-terrorism’ laws (a.k.a. totalitarian police-state laws).
Source: ‘TheyWorkForYou’ website.
On expenses: Claimed for a new tin roof for his log store, tried to claim for two mortgages simultaneously and claimed the maximum expenses allowed for two years running.
Did I hear him right "491 million people from Europe can come here". What does he think is going to happen, a mass evacuation of mainland Europe! The BNP's ability to lie and scare-monger never ceases to amaze me.
Kirsty attractive for a politician but she is extremely volte face. Anti-Tory and then she licks up the Tory government, thats out of order.
Labour got things badly wrong on immigration and we need to tackle it. The Tories' cap is unworkable and it will be bad for business and jobs. The Lib Dems' exit strategy sounded okay but I'd mix it with the Labour policy. But the Lib Dems have one policy which is standing up for an un-changed Tory party.
the lib dems are more euro fanatic than the tories and labour (if you can believe that) all these rich liberals all think were nothing but cattle and we should be replaced with cheap labour
Peter Hain was a founding member of the 'Anti-Nazi League' which is now the UAF, both of them front groups and recruiting agents for the Trotskyite Socialist Workers' (???) Party.
@slazzer145 Your no better then the fanatical people who call themselves Muslim, Christian and any other religion such fanatics have claimed to belong to.
@badbullyildiz Deport all British terrorists and expatriots who are traitors to their racist and terrorist state from Australia, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Spain and everywhere else she has infected and spread her incurable cancerous tumor of racism, hatred, greed, bigotry, colonialism, imperialism, paedophilia, rape, torture and terrorism in all four corners of the world, from Ireland to Iraq.. The world hates Britain.
I thought Cameron was pretty poor last night. Considering New Labour has DOUBLED our nation's national debt in just 13 years and sold half of our gold reserves off on the cheap, Dave rarely attacks their awful economic record.
For once, I felt Brown did really well. He exposed Clegg's bizarre idea to disarm our nation at a time when Iran and North Korea appear to be close to attaining nuclear weapons. What is £100bn over 25 years considering what the Afghan war is costing us?
Just to point out those saying foreigners are coming in and undercutting wages,
there is a minimum wage set out in Law that applies to every person regardless of your ethnic origin the only differences applies to age groups, so how on earth can they be undercutting anyone in legal jobs?
@hablerz well yah see theres such a thing as minimum wage it was introduced by the Labour government any employer that breaks that minimum wage is breaking the law and should be prosecuted so really you cant be undercut if everyone is on the same basic wage.
@hablerz again that more to do with market forces if someone chooses cheap labour over experinced workmen thats their choice and you cant blame someone trying to earn a living, me personally I will always go for the experinced craftsman ensures quality.
its funny how he forgot to mention the fact that around 600,000 Brits are working in France, 1,000,000 !!!!! are working and living in Spain and around another 500,000 in other EU countries .
@BenTennison16 - Most of the Brits are over in Europe because that's where the better paid jobs are. Successive Labour and Tory governements have encouraged cheap labour to enter the country, undercutting British workers, so forcing many British people abroard for work with decent pay. Britain is now a low wage, low standard economy.
@BNPification - Wow! That response was really intellectual of you. You were unable to rationally deal with my comment, so you insult me, because my comment didn't line up with your soppy right-on leftist views. You idiots are constantly trying to justify mass immigration by using that old 'lots of Brits working in Europe' crap. Most working class Brits are stuck here, poorly trained and being constantly undercut by cheap migrant labour. You masochistic white leftist self-haters are sickening.
@CrankCase08 You may post crap but that doesnt mean im prepared to wipe your arse! "Most of the Brits are over in Europe" Rubbish most British people work in Britain "governements have encouraged cheap labour to enter the country" Supply and demand "undercutting British workers" No evidence at all "British people abroard" People migrate for many reasons "Britain is now a low wage, low standard economy" Laughable!!!
@BNPification - That's pretty slimy, and deceitful of you to post quotes that are out of context. But then that is a tactic emplyed by the UAF and its supporters.
You have still failed to intelligently address the point I made, and have instead, yet again, responded with "Laughable!!!". I think readers will be able to summise what an unintelligent piece of garbage you are.
@CrankCase08 - You failed to make any intelligent comments, just bnp rhetoric. Take "cheap labour undercutting British workers" just a vague unsupported comment. Expanding the labour market supply fules economic growth helping to suppress inflation, providing much needed skills, raising the productivity of domestic workers they work alongside, creating a realistic & competietive wage structure, and often being more mobile and entrepreneurial than their native counterparts.
@BNPification - That's not BNP rhetoric - I've never heard them say it. The trouble with people like you is, you are shallow, unloyal, and untrustworthy, willing to sell British people (and specifically British working class people) out in order to enforce some unworkable multicultural agenda. The only reason Britain is short of skills is cutbacks in training. You have no idea of economics. Increased labour = increased competition for jobs = lower wages.
@CrankCase08 - You appear to be resorting to broad verbal abuse, so that is what you meant by intelligently addressing the point. So increased labour = lower wages, so you believe in hyper inflated wages, profit loss, lack of growth and trailing international markets. So you advocate socialism? Record number of British children attend University, cutbacks is a crap excuse.
@BNPification - Not verbal abuse, but pointing out a tendency of people like you who have absolutely no understanding or care of working class problems. So you approve of enforced low wages, as long as that doesn't include you, of course. You really need to get your nose out of your Toryboy economics textbooks. Most of those 'record' numbers are studying non-vocational subjects, and they are attending university due to easier examinations. A levels are now a piece of piss.
@CrankCase08 - Well thanks for your quite hilarious rudimentary profile psychoanalysis of me, so which school are you Freud, Jung, Fromm...? Low wages are a necessity of a capitalist society, you need to financially disseminate between Doctors and Cleaners, or you dont have aspirations for professional professions.
@BNPification - Yet again you demonstrate an ignorance of economics. What you refer to is wage differentials, which is a completely different issue. Incidentally, low wages are not an essential requirement of a capitalist society, as demonstrated clearly by Germany and Japan.
@BNPification - You really have appalling powers of comprehension. Of course there are differentials in wages, however, according to the ICFTU, the average wage of blue collar, and low-medium white collar workers is highest amongst those from Germany and Japan. You really need to do your research properly, rather than making it up.
@CrankCase08 (cont..) - Wrong! examinations are not easier, problems are children are cleverer today than 20 yrs ago (IQ tests demonstrate rising intelligence) but examinations are not progressively difficult. USA make examinations more difficult each year, we dont and they are identically difficult as 20 yrs ago, students arent IQ identical though. You quite clearly lack an educated knowledge on the subjects you critically discuss, thus providing biased tabloid whining rhetoric.
@BNPification - As usual you talk complete uninformed crap. I've actually seen an A' Level examination paper from two years ago, and it was a joke compared to what I took. Your claim of rising intelligence is also nonsense. Upon what do you base this hypothesis? It's obvious that literacy has diminished. Plenty of educationalists, including, most notably, Chris Woodhead, former Inspector of Schools has criticised falling exam standards. It's you who is uneducated.
"The Flynn effect may have ended in some developed nations starting during the mid 1990s. In the United Kingdom amongst teenagers, IQ maximized during the 1980s and has since remained the same."
@BNPification - The Flynn effect is an unproven THEORY by some scientist wanting to make a name for himself.Just because someone says something is so doesn't mean it is. You'll be telling me man-made global warming is a fact next.
@CrankCase08 - A theory is an idea, it doesnt need to be proven. Although you really dont have an argument back just glib ignorance. The People is a good read!
@BNPification - Actually, you've just proven how stupid you are. A theory that has not been proven is just that and nothing more. I could say that I am descended from extra-terrestial aliens - that would be my crackpot theory, an idea, but until I can back it with evidence it holds as much validity as the theory that I am the second coming.
@CrankCase08 - Stop talking in riddles, a theory is an idea proven or disproved. The Flynn Effect has ample evidence to support it, identical IQ tests performed over a number of decades showing a gradual significant growth in intelligence. As with most of science there is a critical challenge. Stop being an incorrect pedantic cretin over meanings of words, as this all you really have to question.
@BNPification - Your logic is deeply flawed. If a theory is proven, then it is no longer a theory, it is a fact. The Flynn effect is not proven, and many scientists refute it with their own evidence. It's the same situation as the man-made global warming issue - unsubstatial claims to support a theory that is opposed by other scientists. Your attitude is highly unscientific.
@CrankCase08 - A theory can still be fact, and I never claimed the Flynn Effect was fact so stop dreaming up a disagreement like a child. I said the non-progressive difficulty of examinations was fact, you claimed "nurrr I seen one it well easy man". The Flynn Effect like Global warming has support and those who contend it, that is science. Now stop your piffling little ranting.
@BNPification - I've already exposed your statements as illogical and explained why, yet you just repeat it. It seems like you've ended up a dead-end alley. Even universities are complaining about lower literacy levels of school leavers.Examinations are easier - fact, and that's supported by educationalists. The only people supporting your claim is corrupt Labour ministers and hopeless school teachers.
@CrankCase08 - "Examinations are easier fact" So you are basically contradicting yourself now on what is fact and theory. You offer no support, evidence or logic, just the whinings of some right wingers. I have provided scientific basis to my argument, you have offered "errrr no it not tho". You are a joker falling off your melting ice cap. .
@BNPification - no contradiction at all. A' levels used to be relatively difficult - now they produce more university fodder in order to keep the unemployment figures down. I've given you evidence but you deliberately ignore it. You should try comparing an A' Level History paper from the 1970's to a modern one. You have provided no evidence - just stupidly claiming that a theory is a fact, which it is not. You are a typical emotional leftist with no understanding of logic.
@CrankCase08 - Examinations being easier is not fact, its a subjective opinion. There is a debate in education at present regarding the funnel effect and whether a levels should be harder, however many argue that an a level qualification should be comparable to someone who took one 20 or 30 yrs ago. If you cannot see the conjecture I make, rather than just making silly insults, then you are brainless.
@BNPification - So now you've just admitted yourself that "... an a level qualification should be comparable to someone who took one 20 or 30 yrs ago" So why are you calling me brainless for saying something in accordance with that statement, which also contradicts your previous claim that they are not now easier? That's brainlessness on your part, not mine.
@CrankCase08 - Get down from your highchair and grow up, big boys are debating here. I said the qualification should be comparable, NOT THE EXAM. The exam reamins the same, those taking it are not they are more intelligent. Your most pathetically stupid reply posted to date, congratulations.
@BNPification - "Big boys"? You pathetic patronising wanker. The A' Level is held as same status to the 70's already, so that would be no change. However, the CBI has pointed out that the A' Level is no longer considered by many of its members to be as reliable a qualification as it used to be. I think I'd rather believe them than a masturbatory egotist.
@CrankCase08 - Now now dont throw your dummy, dummy! You stated clearly that you and many others consider the A level easier than in the 1970s, but now you say it holds the same status errr except by the CBI. My mind is spinning with the utter number of contradictions that can be posted in a single comment.
@BNPification - If you think that is a contradiction you are dumber than what I thought. It's only held in the same status by the government and educational establishments, but it is now completely discredited amongst employers, and rightly so.
@BNPification - No I don't speak on behalf of employers, but I suggest you trry listening to the CBI on the matter, rather than selectively listening to what you want to hear.
@CrankCase08 - I am not selectively doing anything, I am in disagreement with you. Dont piss your pants because your argument depends on making wholly unbalanced and supported generalisations.
@BNPification - What's so unbalanced and generalised about pointing out that employers (CBI) considers A' Levels to have been degraded and almost worthless?
@CrankCase08 - I have pointed out the problem with A levels, that children are today more intelligent than 30 yrs ago and thus largely perform better. You are simply being arrogant and conceited, and would rather blindly believe that you are better than todays generation, rather than facing the truth.
@BNPification - Today's generation more intelligent than 30 years ago? So is that why literacy levels have diminished? Why knowledge of history has diminished? The only diference between now and thirty years ago is the exposure to new technology, and that has nothing to do with intelligence. It seems more likely that you are using that stupid argument as a tool with which to convince the gullible that you are more intelligent than 'the oldies'.
@CrankCase08 You argue A levels are easier, thus more teenagers are passing & achieving better grades, claiming the perceived picture that children are more intelligent is wrong as A levels are easier. Whilst arguing that illiteracy levels are higher. So you claim teenagers are more illiterate & better qualified than 30 yrs ago. Interesting contradiction. I agree the current A level qualification makes it impossible to distinguish the bright from the brilliant.
@BNPification -Because your argument is weak you now falsify what I said. Look again and start being truthful. I said literacy levels have diminished; neither did I say they are better qualified. They may have more of these easy A' Levels to their name, but employers now consider their worth far less than 30 years ago.
You now logically concede that the standard of A' Levels has diminished, because they no longer discriminate the "bright from the brilliant." Alas, it's you who has contradicted.
@CrankCase08 - I think the discussion concerned the correlation between rising intelligence of teenagers, increase in numbers gaining A level qualifications and your perceived view that the qualification had become easier. My initial point was this undermines the qualification, you are agreeing with me but lack the acumen to see. Either that or youre just being a nob.
@BNPification - You claimed that the A' Level exams were just as difficult as 30 years ago and that higher A' Level passes are due to higher intelligence, and I disagree on both counts.
@CrankCase08 He failed to say what aspects/races and locations are failing. you must remember the Flynn Effect from those from foreign shores have a later onset.
There are many statistical anomalies here. Class room behaviour. Preferential treatment due to BME funding. Others holding the class back. The type of exams in my day (70's). Completely different to today. They are more iq brain training based.
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The Flynn Effect has also changed due to age of maturity and the Flouride effect (brain)
peter hain talking utter dross apu , and the rest of them lovers of the EU they would have us more sunk than we already are...Anti British genocidal maniacs..vote BNP the voice of the British people and the only ones who will take this in hand,
What absolute rubbish! Britain has to contribute £16,000,000,000 a year to the EU and it is returned £10,000,000,000 in EU funds, or as they call it "grants", which are used to fund EU ideals. The money that is returned is only used for EU projects not for what the British want. Apparently £100,000,000 for the One Wales project was returned to Brussels to fund the Eastern European countries. And another thing, immigration is no benefit to us at all!! It just means cheap imported labour!
Why are thousands of I.T. workers from the third world, namely india,coming into Britain & stealing British jobs ? Last time I looked at a map india wasn't located in Europe ! Why didn't the BNP candidate ask those dishonest lab/lib/con fraudsters that simple question ?
@hamlet25 Keep British terrorists out of Ireland and everywhere else. Enoch Powell should have been murdered in 1968. Go and desecrate his cock and suck his rotting corpse you British terrorist warmongerer. The IRA will be back and we shall regain the six counties Britain stole from my country. Tiochfaidh Ar La.
That idiot from the Lib Dems tells us that she would only deport illegal immigrants who are criminals. Surely if they are ILLEGAL immigrants then they are all criminals?
None of them answered the question. The points system does not apply to workers from with in the EU. The fact is that before the open borders policy it was still posible for British workers to find employment in other countries with in the EU and many did. All we get is the same old shit from these traitors.
@ratsratsrats100 if it wasnt for the EU , most irish would still be living on farms with cows. last time i checked before 1973, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in Europe, it was Europe that help it recover !
@BenTennison16 no it was by low corporation tax that attracted inward investment. most of the money from the EU went to farmers. ireland has been stripped of billions of pound as our fishing grounds have been taken away from us. we have actually given more than we have recieved. most of the pharmaceutical/ computer companies that manufacture in ireland export to the world they set up here however due to low corporate tax
@pembrokeshiresspark Well that's all well and good, but being in government is more than just managing immigration levels. Would I trust BNP with the health service or education, well frankly they don't seem to express much interest in those topics.
Anyone who is thinking of voting for these clowns, will not be voting for a uk government, they will be voting for an eu government. I wish the penny would finally drop with the thick people out there who persist in voting for the liblabcon.
None of these cunts would dare mention immigration 6 months ago, they have shown their true colours.
@ENDEUARABIA Great Britain would be better under Islamic Majority and Colonial Rule. She will give Northern Ireland back to Ireland, whereas the British terrorist state never gives any back to any country she stole from.
"Do they not understand that NO IMMIGRATION is of benefit to us, neither is the EU."
Yes, they do understand that immigration and the EU is bad for us. The often used word "genocide" is not hyperbole, it is the admitted policy of the establishment.
This is what we get for not submitting to communism after WW2.
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'The Celtic Fringe: Westminster Elections In Scotland And Wales, 1970-2010, A Complete Record' by Grant Toway is now available on Amazon. At first glance, this book may seem to be primarily a statistical guide to the 1,200+ constituency contests in Scotland and Wales covering the last four decades, but there are also brief comments which accompany each and every result. The author has also compiled a number of appendices as well as providing his own commentary on the unfolding events.
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garyw930 1 week ago
Back when the Lib Dems seemed trustworthy...
5786Dan 1 month ago
Peter Hain is orange. But not bright.
IlRezzonico 2 months ago
Peter Hain’s record:
Voted very strongly for the illegal Iraq war.
Voted very strongly against an investigation into the illegal Iraq war.
Voted very strongly for introducing ID cards.
Voted strongly for Labour's so called ‘anti-terrorism’ laws (a.k.a. totalitarian police-state laws).
Source: ‘TheyWorkForYou’ website.
On expenses: Claimed for a new tin roof for his log store, tried to claim for two mortgages simultaneously and claimed the maximum expenses allowed for two years running.
felix3840 8 months ago
Did I hear him right "491 million people from Europe can come here". What does he think is going to happen, a mass evacuation of mainland Europe! The BNP's ability to lie and scare-monger never ceases to amaze me.
redplague 9 months ago
Kirsty attractive for a politician but she is extremely volte face. Anti-Tory and then she licks up the Tory government, thats out of order.
Labour got things badly wrong on immigration and we need to tackle it. The Tories' cap is unworkable and it will be bad for business and jobs. The Lib Dems' exit strategy sounded okay but I'd mix it with the Labour policy. But the Lib Dems have one policy which is standing up for an un-changed Tory party.
CookieCrumblz 1 year ago
@CookieCrumblz bwaha, I know that lol I'de give her one lol
StevenDeedle 1 year ago
Lib Dems - LIARS!!
Labour - LIARS!!
Conservaties - LIARS!!
B.N.P - LIARS!!!
KILL THE FUCKING LOT!!!
GUY FAWKES WAS A LEGEND!!!
CirusTheVirus10 1 year ago 6
the lib dems are more euro fanatic than the tories and labour (if you can believe that) all these rich liberals all think were nothing but cattle and we should be replaced with cheap labour
scottishchap2008 1 year ago
I would certainly consider giving that Welsh women one.
A vote that is.
hablerz 1 year ago
They would have just shunned him if they knew he was from the party.
Anglosaxonbnp 1 year ago 2
the first man to speak is/was running for BNP councillor in Newport or Caerphilly I think
zKa0sz 1 year ago 3
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trigga1uk 1 year ago
VOTE BNP!
Olekander 1 year ago
Peter Hain was a founding member of the 'Anti-Nazi League' which is now the UAF, both of them front groups and recruiting agents for the Trotskyite Socialist Workers' (???) Party.
elvis1923 1 year ago 11
Peter Hain isn't Welsh so why is he Minister for Wales?
elvis1923 1 year ago
@elvis1923 Because he is British and wales is British
BarryCFCOK 1 year ago
Where is the BNP election Candidate?
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
@Tzimnewman3 Islwyn
NatDemUK 1 year ago
@NatDemUK nywlsl
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
uk need a robot suicide bombers,,this is to bomb muslims in Bradford, swansea,
birmingham,luton. London and scotland...
slazzer145 1 year ago
@slazzer145 Your no better then the fanatical people who call themselves Muslim, Christian and any other religion such fanatics have claimed to belong to.
Terrorists like you deserve no human rights
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
BNPification = Tory dick head.
fondoogle 1 year ago
FUCK BNP
badbullyildiz 1 year ago
@badbullyildiz get out of britain paki
notrealpker 1 year ago
@badbullyildiz Deport all British terrorists and expatriots who are traitors to their racist and terrorist state from Australia, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Spain and everywhere else she has infected and spread her incurable cancerous tumor of racism, hatred, greed, bigotry, colonialism, imperialism, paedophilia, rape, torture and terrorism in all four corners of the world, from Ireland to Iraq.. The world hates Britain.
2009mrdyslexia 1 year ago
deport all porkistanies back to their slum country !
ThePorkistani 1 year ago
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2009mrdyslexia 1 year ago
Ah, so that fat bastard was a BNazi P candidate, traitor!
Cena60793 1 year ago
SAVE BRITAIN=VOTE BNP
VigisKane 1 year ago
You can tell if the vid is not from the "left". They allow responses. Shows all the other vids are lies that dare not be proved wrong.
m1aws 1 year ago
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I thought Cameron was pretty poor last night. Considering New Labour has DOUBLED our nation's national debt in just 13 years and sold half of our gold reserves off on the cheap, Dave rarely attacks their awful economic record.
For once, I felt Brown did really well. He exposed Clegg's bizarre idea to disarm our nation at a time when Iran and North Korea appear to be close to attaining nuclear weapons. What is £100bn over 25 years considering what the Afghan war is costing us?
bigscolari 1 year ago
Hain is an ANL signatory.
Puzzoozoo 1 year ago
Just to point out those saying foreigners are coming in and undercutting wages,
there is a minimum wage set out in Law that applies to every person regardless of your ethnic origin the only differences applies to age groups, so how on earth can they be undercutting anyone in legal jobs?
McDuff73 1 year ago
@McDuff73 They undercut skilled and semi skilled wages , for instance painters and decorators and builders etc.
Due to the fact they live in communal housing they are more able to survive and prosper on the minimum wage as well.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz well yah see theres such a thing as minimum wage it was introduced by the Labour government any employer that breaks that minimum wage is breaking the law and should be prosecuted so really you cant be undercut if everyone is on the same basic wage.
McDuff73 1 year ago
@McDuff73 What im saying is a painter and decorator is formally on say 10 pounds per hour and then a Pole offers to do the job for he minimum wage.
The original painter and decorator is left high and dry.
So it forces the wage down to the bare minimum for everybody else.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz again that more to do with market forces if someone chooses cheap labour over experinced workmen thats their choice and you cant blame someone trying to earn a living, me personally I will always go for the experinced craftsman ensures quality.
McDuff73 1 year ago
Bravo
TheMotherKelly 1 year ago
Everyone, send this video to this YouTube user: theuklabourparty and make them look ridiculous!
NatDemUK 1 year ago
Well done John! I hope Hain now realises he had to answer a question from a BNP candidate. Priceless! The drivel from the panel was as expected.
alfalan1 1 year ago
its funny how he forgot to mention the fact that around 600,000 Brits are working in France, 1,000,000 !!!!! are working and living in Spain and around another 500,000 in other EU countries .
BenTennison16 1 year ago
@BenTennison16 - Most of the Brits are over in Europe because that's where the better paid jobs are. Successive Labour and Tory governements have encouraged cheap labour to enter the country, undercutting British workers, so forcing many British people abroard for work with decent pay. Britain is now a low wage, low standard economy.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Stop talking out your arse
BNPification 1 year ago
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CrankCase08 1 year ago
@BNPification - Wow! That response was really intellectual of you. You were unable to rationally deal with my comment, so you insult me, because my comment didn't line up with your soppy right-on leftist views. You idiots are constantly trying to justify mass immigration by using that old 'lots of Brits working in Europe' crap. Most working class Brits are stuck here, poorly trained and being constantly undercut by cheap migrant labour. You masochistic white leftist self-haters are sickening.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - That's pretty slimy, and deceitful of you to post quotes that are out of context. But then that is a tactic emplyed by the UAF and its supporters.
You have still failed to intelligently address the point I made, and have instead, yet again, responded with "Laughable!!!". I think readers will be able to summise what an unintelligent piece of garbage you are.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - You failed to make any intelligent comments, just bnp rhetoric. Take "cheap labour undercutting British workers" just a vague unsupported comment. Expanding the labour market supply fules economic growth helping to suppress inflation, providing much needed skills, raising the productivity of domestic workers they work alongside, creating a realistic & competietive wage structure, and often being more mobile and entrepreneurial than their native counterparts.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - That's not BNP rhetoric - I've never heard them say it. The trouble with people like you is, you are shallow, unloyal, and untrustworthy, willing to sell British people (and specifically British working class people) out in order to enforce some unworkable multicultural agenda. The only reason Britain is short of skills is cutbacks in training. You have no idea of economics. Increased labour = increased competition for jobs = lower wages.
With your way, only capitalists benefit.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - You appear to be resorting to broad verbal abuse, so that is what you meant by intelligently addressing the point. So increased labour = lower wages, so you believe in hyper inflated wages, profit loss, lack of growth and trailing international markets. So you advocate socialism? Record number of British children attend University, cutbacks is a crap excuse.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Not verbal abuse, but pointing out a tendency of people like you who have absolutely no understanding or care of working class problems. So you approve of enforced low wages, as long as that doesn't include you, of course. You really need to get your nose out of your Toryboy economics textbooks. Most of those 'record' numbers are studying non-vocational subjects, and they are attending university due to easier examinations. A levels are now a piece of piss.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Well thanks for your quite hilarious rudimentary profile psychoanalysis of me, so which school are you Freud, Jung, Fromm...? Low wages are a necessity of a capitalist society, you need to financially disseminate between Doctors and Cleaners, or you dont have aspirations for professional professions.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Yet again you demonstrate an ignorance of economics. What you refer to is wage differentials, which is a completely different issue. Incidentally, low wages are not an essential requirement of a capitalist society, as demonstrated clearly by Germany and Japan.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Germany and Japan have many people on a low wage, dont talk utter shit.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - You really have appalling powers of comprehension. Of course there are differentials in wages, however, according to the ICFTU, the average wage of blue collar, and low-medium white collar workers is highest amongst those from Germany and Japan. You really need to do your research properly, rather than making it up.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 (cont..) - Wrong! examinations are not easier, problems are children are cleverer today than 20 yrs ago (IQ tests demonstrate rising intelligence) but examinations are not progressively difficult. USA make examinations more difficult each year, we dont and they are identically difficult as 20 yrs ago, students arent IQ identical though. You quite clearly lack an educated knowledge on the subjects you critically discuss, thus providing biased tabloid whining rhetoric.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - As usual you talk complete uninformed crap. I've actually seen an A' Level examination paper from two years ago, and it was a joke compared to what I took. Your claim of rising intelligence is also nonsense. Upon what do you base this hypothesis? It's obvious that literacy has diminished. Plenty of educationalists, including, most notably, Chris Woodhead, former Inspector of Schools has criticised falling exam standards. It's you who is uneducated.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - What do I base IQ results on errrr IQ results you complete moron. You get more hilarious by the comment.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Intelligence does not increase within two generations. Your assertions are baseless, invented to suit your hapless argument.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Look at the FLYNN EFFECT you daft twat
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification WIKI:
"The Flynn effect may have ended in some developed nations starting during the mid 1990s. In the United Kingdom amongst teenagers, IQ maximized during the 1980s and has since remained the same."
m1aws 1 year ago
@BNPification - The Flynn effect is an unproven THEORY by some scientist wanting to make a name for himself.Just because someone says something is so doesn't mean it is. You'll be telling me man-made global warming is a fact next.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - A theory is an idea, it doesnt need to be proven. Although you really dont have an argument back just glib ignorance. The People is a good read!
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Actually, you've just proven how stupid you are. A theory that has not been proven is just that and nothing more. I could say that I am descended from extra-terrestial aliens - that would be my crackpot theory, an idea, but until I can back it with evidence it holds as much validity as the theory that I am the second coming.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Stop talking in riddles, a theory is an idea proven or disproved. The Flynn Effect has ample evidence to support it, identical IQ tests performed over a number of decades showing a gradual significant growth in intelligence. As with most of science there is a critical challenge. Stop being an incorrect pedantic cretin over meanings of words, as this all you really have to question.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Your logic is deeply flawed. If a theory is proven, then it is no longer a theory, it is a fact. The Flynn effect is not proven, and many scientists refute it with their own evidence. It's the same situation as the man-made global warming issue - unsubstatial claims to support a theory that is opposed by other scientists. Your attitude is highly unscientific.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - A theory can still be fact, and I never claimed the Flynn Effect was fact so stop dreaming up a disagreement like a child. I said the non-progressive difficulty of examinations was fact, you claimed "nurrr I seen one it well easy man". The Flynn Effect like Global warming has support and those who contend it, that is science. Now stop your piffling little ranting.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - I've already exposed your statements as illogical and explained why, yet you just repeat it. It seems like you've ended up a dead-end alley. Even universities are complaining about lower literacy levels of school leavers.Examinations are easier - fact, and that's supported by educationalists. The only people supporting your claim is corrupt Labour ministers and hopeless school teachers.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - "Examinations are easier fact" So you are basically contradicting yourself now on what is fact and theory. You offer no support, evidence or logic, just the whinings of some right wingers. I have provided scientific basis to my argument, you have offered "errrr no it not tho". You are a joker falling off your melting ice cap. .
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - no contradiction at all. A' levels used to be relatively difficult - now they produce more university fodder in order to keep the unemployment figures down. I've given you evidence but you deliberately ignore it. You should try comparing an A' Level History paper from the 1970's to a modern one. You have provided no evidence - just stupidly claiming that a theory is a fact, which it is not. You are a typical emotional leftist with no understanding of logic.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Examinations being easier is not fact, its a subjective opinion. There is a debate in education at present regarding the funnel effect and whether a levels should be harder, however many argue that an a level qualification should be comparable to someone who took one 20 or 30 yrs ago. If you cannot see the conjecture I make, rather than just making silly insults, then you are brainless.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - So now you've just admitted yourself that "... an a level qualification should be comparable to someone who took one 20 or 30 yrs ago" So why are you calling me brainless for saying something in accordance with that statement, which also contradicts your previous claim that they are not now easier? That's brainlessness on your part, not mine.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Get down from your highchair and grow up, big boys are debating here. I said the qualification should be comparable, NOT THE EXAM. The exam reamins the same, those taking it are not they are more intelligent. Your most pathetically stupid reply posted to date, congratulations.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - "Big boys"? You pathetic patronising wanker. The A' Level is held as same status to the 70's already, so that would be no change. However, the CBI has pointed out that the A' Level is no longer considered by many of its members to be as reliable a qualification as it used to be. I think I'd rather believe them than a masturbatory egotist.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Now now dont throw your dummy, dummy! You stated clearly that you and many others consider the A level easier than in the 1970s, but now you say it holds the same status errr except by the CBI. My mind is spinning with the utter number of contradictions that can be posted in a single comment.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - If you think that is a contradiction you are dumber than what I thought. It's only held in the same status by the government and educational establishments, but it is now completely discredited amongst employers, and rightly so.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - Speaking on behalf of all employers are you, voice of British industry, and you claim im an egoist. Contradiction number 158.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - No I don't speak on behalf of employers, but I suggest you trry listening to the CBI on the matter, rather than selectively listening to what you want to hear.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - I am not selectively doing anything, I am in disagreement with you. Dont piss your pants because your argument depends on making wholly unbalanced and supported generalisations.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - What's so unbalanced and generalised about pointing out that employers (CBI) considers A' Levels to have been degraded and almost worthless?
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - I have pointed out the problem with A levels, that children are today more intelligent than 30 yrs ago and thus largely perform better. You are simply being arrogant and conceited, and would rather blindly believe that you are better than todays generation, rather than facing the truth.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - Today's generation more intelligent than 30 years ago? So is that why literacy levels have diminished? Why knowledge of history has diminished? The only diference between now and thirty years ago is the exposure to new technology, and that has nothing to do with intelligence. It seems more likely that you are using that stupid argument as a tool with which to convince the gullible that you are more intelligent than 'the oldies'.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 You argue A levels are easier, thus more teenagers are passing & achieving better grades, claiming the perceived picture that children are more intelligent is wrong as A levels are easier. Whilst arguing that illiteracy levels are higher. So you claim teenagers are more illiterate & better qualified than 30 yrs ago. Interesting contradiction. I agree the current A level qualification makes it impossible to distinguish the bright from the brilliant.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification -Because your argument is weak you now falsify what I said. Look again and start being truthful. I said literacy levels have diminished; neither did I say they are better qualified. They may have more of these easy A' Levels to their name, but employers now consider their worth far less than 30 years ago.
You now logically concede that the standard of A' Levels has diminished, because they no longer discriminate the "bright from the brilliant." Alas, it's you who has contradicted.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - I think the discussion concerned the correlation between rising intelligence of teenagers, increase in numbers gaining A level qualifications and your perceived view that the qualification had become easier. My initial point was this undermines the qualification, you are agreeing with me but lack the acumen to see. Either that or youre just being a nob.
BNPification 1 year ago
@BNPification - You claimed that the A' Level exams were just as difficult as 30 years ago and that higher A' Level passes are due to higher intelligence, and I disagree on both counts.
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 - So how old are you, if your argument is resorting to ageism
BNPification 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 He failed to say what aspects/races and locations are failing. you must remember the Flynn Effect from those from foreign shores have a later onset.
There are many statistical anomalies here. Class room behaviour. Preferential treatment due to BME funding. Others holding the class back. The type of exams in my day (70's). Completely different to today. They are more iq brain training based.
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The Flynn Effect has also changed due to age of maturity and the Flouride effect (brain)
m1aws 1 year ago
peter hain talking utter dross apu , and the rest of them lovers of the EU they would have us more sunk than we already are...Anti British genocidal maniacs..vote BNP the voice of the British people and the only ones who will take this in hand,
demibrookes1 1 year ago
what Orange man Hain debating with a BNP member !
miiawh 1 year ago
What absolute rubbish! Britain has to contribute £16,000,000,000 a year to the EU and it is returned £10,000,000,000 in EU funds, or as they call it "grants", which are used to fund EU ideals. The money that is returned is only used for EU projects not for what the British want. Apparently £100,000,000 for the One Wales project was returned to Brussels to fund the Eastern European countries. And another thing, immigration is no benefit to us at all!! It just means cheap imported labour!
NatDemUK 1 year ago
Why are thousands of I.T. workers from the third world, namely india,coming into Britain & stealing British jobs ? Last time I looked at a map india wasn't located in Europe ! Why didn't the BNP candidate ask those dishonest lab/lib/con fraudsters that simple question ?
WAKE UP BRITONS !
VOTE BNP ON 6th MAY
hamlet25 1 year ago
@hamlet25 Keep British terrorists out of Ireland and everywhere else. Enoch Powell should have been murdered in 1968. Go and desecrate his cock and suck his rotting corpse you British terrorist warmongerer. The IRA will be back and we shall regain the six counties Britain stole from my country. Tiochfaidh Ar La.
2009mrdyslexia 1 year ago
@2009mrdyslexia Jesus , hating Britain is a full time hobby for you isn't it ? have you tried knitting ?
hablerz 1 year ago
Same old shit from the traitors telling us how great immigration is for us, but living in the real world you can see its a bloody nightmare.
VOTE BNP.
opdeverpos 1 year ago 2
That idiot from the Lib Dems tells us that she would only deport illegal immigrants who are criminals. Surely if they are ILLEGAL immigrants then they are all criminals?
capitalsho 1 year ago 2
None of them answered the question. The points system does not apply to workers from with in the EU. The fact is that before the open borders policy it was still posible for British workers to find employment in other countries with in the EU and many did. All we get is the same old shit from these traitors.
capitalsho 1 year ago
Well done John. You have exposed the "Typical" Bull...T answers from these traitors.
WalesBNP 1 year ago
over half a million came to ireland and displaced lots of irish men and women total disaster for britain and ireland.
ratsratsrats100 1 year ago
@ratsratsrats100 if it wasnt for the EU , most irish would still be living on farms with cows. last time i checked before 1973, Ireland was one of the poorest countries in Europe, it was Europe that help it recover !
BenTennison16 1 year ago
@BenTennison16 no it was by low corporation tax that attracted inward investment. most of the money from the EU went to farmers. ireland has been stripped of billions of pound as our fishing grounds have been taken away from us. we have actually given more than we have recieved. most of the pharmaceutical/ computer companies that manufacture in ireland export to the world they set up here however due to low corporate tax
ratsratsrats100 1 year ago
So basically its obvious to me plaid/lie/con/lib support the eu, so they are supporting more British people losing their jobs.
Welldone JOG - VOTE BNP.
pembrokeshiresspark 1 year ago 29
@pembrokeshiresspark
Here here mate.
The Lab/Lib/Con uni-party isn't doing shit and wont. The BNP is the only party standing up for us. VOTE BNP [X]
KnightOfChrist1 1 year ago
@pembrokeshiresspark Well that's all well and good, but being in government is more than just managing immigration levels. Would I trust BNP with the health service or education, well frankly they don't seem to express much interest in those topics.
redplague 9 months ago
a border force sounds good, monitor who comes in the country and who goes out.
but i have a feeling its just more fancy talk n no action.
cujo9 1 year ago
peter hains lies the australian have a points based system with a difference they got a limit unlike we have in the uk
DAISYMANONE 1 year ago 2
Well done John that was brilliant
CaptainSouter 1 year ago
Like watching Thunderbirds.
non of it is true ... but you have to watch for the unbelievable.
MinutemanUK 1 year ago
Ah, I didn't realise he was a BNP candidate. I'm very glad to hear it because he came across very well.
Christonamotorcycle 1 year ago 19
These people are so terrified of patriotism they sweat fear.
JOG had the loudest applause from the audience,- Does this not drop a slight hint?
TheHepworth 1 year ago 6
Well said John Voysey PPC BNP.
supadupa125 1 year ago 5
Anyone who is thinking of voting for these clowns, will not be voting for a uk government, they will be voting for an eu government. I wish the penny would finally drop with the thick people out there who persist in voting for the liblabcon.
None of these cunts would dare mention immigration 6 months ago, they have shown their true colours.
Time for REAL change
Vote BNP
aconstantfalling 1 year ago 5
I really, really dislike peter hain.
The man just oozes slime and lies.
VOTE BNP
frankenstein369 1 year ago 7
Recession its a full blown depression all caused by the UK government screwing with rule of law.
Ever see a country recover after the government allowed the counterfeiting their money supply into oblivion.
The debacle is caused by the government not following rule of law, I wouldn't trust any government that LIES to their taxpayers.
boots920 1 year ago
Great work John. Thank you.
SlowLiberalDeath 1 year ago 3
So there you are everything hunky Dory with mass immigration /colonisation
ENDEUARABIA 1 year ago
@ENDEUARABIA Great Britain would be better under Islamic Majority and Colonial Rule. She will give Northern Ireland back to Ireland, whereas the British terrorist state never gives any back to any country she stole from.
2009mrdyslexia 1 year ago
Good grief JoG, do they not get the point? I get so bloody angry with these people. FFS not one of them will say enough is enough.
I am lost for words, stop them all from coming and rid ourselves of the rest that have no right to be here.
Hain, "membership of the EU is important to us". Do they not understand that NO IMMIGRATION is of benefit to us, neither is the EU.
bmwr90s 1 year ago 4
@bmwr90s
"Do they not understand that NO IMMIGRATION is of benefit to us, neither is the EU."
Yes, they do understand that immigration and the EU is bad for us. The often used word "genocide" is not hyperbole, it is the admitted policy of the establishment.
This is what we get for not submitting to communism after WW2.
SlowLiberalDeath 1 year ago 2