Everybody dressed modestly. Not just Muslims. if you go back only about 50 years or so in Europe. Women did dress modestly with long dresses and even scarves to cover their hair. in the Bible stated by St Paul if a women shows her hair as a punishment her hair would need to be shaved off. so modesty has always been the norm until the so called liberation of women in the 60s were the idea of the more naked you are the more civilised you become was promoted by the media.
@BlackPower991 I'm all for modest dress, but the central idea is about CHOICE. It's not a man's job to dictate how a woman MUST dress. And it's not a woman's job to dictate how I dress. I don't go around killing/beating women who don't dress according to my standards, and I expect the same in return. Is that too complicated?
@zontar4444 I agree, CHOICE is important in my opinion too. However standards that you mentioned your post is a key problem. Who defines standards and how can we all agree on that standards. because as I free man living in a free country I should be able to walk outside naked. But If I did this I will not only be beaten up in the street I will also be arrested and sent to jail. And I can assure you that even yourself who is promoting CHOICE wouldn't stand up to protect my CHOICE.
@VlogwithEmma if you wear the wrong fabric during the sumer it can be hot. I like to wear cool sheer and silky like fabrics during the summer and cotton like fabrics during winter :)
There is a Muslim lady in my class. She wears hijab. She will not even look at me. I always look at her beautiful face, but she will not look at me. But, it turns out, this made me respect her. Still, a smile would be polite.
I'm muslim and I understand what your talking about when I first became muslim my clothes were just plain old Islamic clothing I'm not saying make your self look ugly, But buying all the exspensive clothing and high fashion clothes your really not suppose to that. And if we do We are no different from the magazines.I know buy the 3 regular pieces and it cheap. Enough with the showing off because when you just like that some men are still not afraid to approach you.
thx for understanding what i was trying to say. im glad u take that part of ur religion seriously. even though i dont believe in islam, i think a person who believes in it shouldnt just blindly follow a rule like "only show ur face and ur hands", but understand what is meant by that. and i think the true meaning of that rule is to not look appealing to men.
coz girls walking around in hijab with makeup and sexy clothes (even if those clothes cover her) just defeats the object. they would even draw less attention towards themselves, if they didnt wear hijab, but clothed themselves more chary/unnoticably (cant think of the right word).
yes you can look modest without hijab. But hijab is the highest and most humble level of modesty. It is the ultimate symbol of spritual royalty (even though some ignorant girls wear it for fashion or to look sexy; defeating it's purpose)
@hijabiflower the problem is, is that it IS sexy! i know that's not the intent and i have the utmost respect for what the girls that wear the Hijab are trying to do, but wow! i really dig Arab girls who wear it.
i think these women are trying to look more european. alot of makeup and the clothing is not traditional but fashion designs that look like european. Turkey has a choice. they could have choosen the conservative styles but since they are a developed country they rather look like white women. why not post a video on how the real, traditional burka or hijab, or the plain black color of saudi is so beautifful. I think this is natural female competetion, posting this video :)
i live in Saudi Arabia... but i really dunno how to wear this turkish hijab! kindly help plz or plz could anyone make a vedio and show the deomonstration how to wear these perfect turkish hijab.. as shown in the vedio above .. your help will be appreciated .. Thanks
I told you the only reward you will get in jennah is to look alittle more prittier (which is pointless cause the pritty bar is raised to the same level for all muslimas, meanings if your unattractive youll still be unattractive i jennah) and your husband (whoops! what if you dont have one)
You husband (if you have one) will be banging these wide eyed girls in heaven. We Christians believe there will be no filth in Heaven especially not orgies of lustful sex.
White guy? Please dont be racist Ataturk might have been white but theres no need for you to make fun of him because of that. If Turks are waking up then why did they have a millions of people marching in support of Ataturk a few years ago? Plus the killing of Muslim brothers and sister in Kurdistan by the Turks?
im not racist towards whites my grandfather was white, but if you think about it every where white people rule there is curroption. It happened to the Native Americans and now they're gone. It happened to the Africans and now they dont know where they come from. It happened to Turkey and now the people hate their culture, women were wearing hijab in turkey way way wayyy before Islam came there. Ataturk did nothing but cause turkish people to hate their culture and to worship european whites
The original inhabitants of Asia Minor were Christians, Pagans and Jewish. But after the Asian Muslims from the East (Turks) invaded and they inbred with the local population thus you see many "white" Turks today. Your claim that they were wearing hijab before the Islam occupation is baseless and void of facts.
Your grandfather might have been white but you seem to have a hatred of them. This is shameful.
Do the research before you say someone is making up void facts, traditional turkish dress has hijab and modest dress. The original turks were not white they were moors (people of color) and yes my grandfather was white (italian) but I dont have hatred towards whites at all. I just hate white supremacy especially when it poisons ethnic people bringing them to kill and divide themselves from their sisters just because she is wearing a scarf on her hair as the original turkish women did
Ofcourse they dressed modestly just as they did in Briton, Spain, Russian and virtually the rest of the civilised world. The hijab was created AFTER Islam. The modestly dressed women wore primitive sheets of cloth not hijabs.
The Turkic people have no connection with the Moors of Northern Africa.
I have no respect for white supremacists just as I dont have respect for Islamic supremacists who insist they are the great people on earth and all non-Muslims must submit to their will.
all of the "civilized" world? that sounds a bit white supremist to me. Anyways the point is turkesh women like all women in the so called "civilized" world are naturally modest whether they were muslim or not the practice of covering your hair as a distinct feminine dress is hijab whether it be up to islamic standards or not. It only a society's sex obsessed culture that tell women to look skinny and anorexic and to wear clothes with their buttocks and boobs hanging out that despise modesty
I understand your point and both of use agree that women should not be walking around like sluts. But for you to go on saying Hijabs gives women modesty is simply untrue. I have seen many Muslimas that wear hijab but inside they are immoral and sleep around. Judging someone by what they wear is pointless.
Civilised means they aren't cleaning their rear end with leaves.
Absolutely. Girls who contradict the behavior that comes with hijab make wearing it absolutely pointless. They dont have modesty in their heart. But if a woman is looking in the mirror and she sees hijab while another woman looks in the mirror and she looks like eve from the garden of eden which women will most likely be reminded of her piety and self-worth? And which woman will most likely be disrespected by men? people still judge women on how they dress AND carry themselves
well the quran doesnt say.. but to be honost with you, If there is only ONE man that exists on earth and he is your husband and there is no such thing as a shop or a clothing store, and every male that comes after Adam is your son or grand-son, why would there be any need to hide your body?
even if she was in jennah you should know having been a muslim that the same law that applies on earth DOES NOT apply in Jennah. For example in jennah we can drink alcohol, eat pork, be naked infront of everyone you dont have to worry about being judged God already knows you lived a good life. But Eve was kicked out of jennah and I believe some christians believe the kingdom will be on earth once again but only the rightous will be resurrected again to live on it. But thats YOUR religion
Yep Jennah a sin-fest, your not allowed to be dirty on this worthless earth but in the clean jennah your allowed to act like a pig. Great reward.... sigh
so you agree that eating pork and walking around naked is indeed a sin? You have to remember that our actions have consequences on earth, in jennah everything is different, there is no such thing as people having diabetes or psychological problems or shooting someone or catching AIDS or getting pregnant before marriage
Dont put words in my mouth, I am looking at this topic from a muslim pov. Dont worry about AIDS in jennah just keep having your endless orgies. Too bad for you being a female you can only have sex with your husband whilst your husband will have many wide eyed beauties.
you're not getting it. I wont be married in heaven. Its not like earth where there are laws to govern people, nobody is going to be offended or arrested in heaven. Every positive feeling you have on earth and yes that includes sexual feelings will be with you forever. Sex was created by God its not something you should think is dirty like those nuns who suppress themselves from sex because its "unholy"
My dear your talking to a ex-Muslim who has been educated by scholars. I am by no means a scholars myself but I have a firm understanding of Islam. Some of your concepts of Jennah are not supported by the Quran and the sayings of Muhammad. The only reward you as a Muslima will get is to be x amount prittier than the hourin. THAT IS ALL NOTHING ELSE. While Muslim men on the other hand get endless sex orgies.
what your saying makes no sense. Men have to have a woman to have sex with. And I believe those women will be women who lived in this life as well. So it only makes sense to say that I will haven sex in heaven too. I respect your decision to be an ex-muslim but I dont really think you see the big picture. Even if I would not be having sex in jennah, men are different from women. I personally dont understand women who want to have sex with 4 guys at the same time but boys operate differently
sex does not equal filth. I would really like to see your sources where it says women will only be prettier (yes thats how you spell it) and that we will not get anything else. By the way if you christians are having sex on earth for recreation why would you want to stop when you go to heaven? I dont worship God 5 times a day to do it all over again when I die and go to heaven.
Lol, I am a muslim and I live in Canada but wait...I'm still a Muslim? That might be the law in Saudi Arabia but you are most likely to be exiled. But then again, everyone in Saudi Arabia is muslim and no one complains...I wonder why :)
Ofcourse your still Muslim, funny how the Christians (Majority in Canada) are not imposing a Muslim only tax and be thankful they are not forcing you to be a second class citizen for your religion.
But the more your brothers keep killing the sooner the West will wake up. Government organisations are already monitoring every Mosque in the US. Canada will follow suit next Inshallah! ;)
I dont watch your American nonsense. I prefer to have na open mind when I am first introduced to a topic. Then later when I have amassed enough knowledge I will act accordingly.
I get my views on Islam from the Quran, Muslim scholars and Muhammads sunnah. Everything I say which you might find offensive is found in your books. If you cant read thats not my issue.
Modern Turkey shuns its Islamic past, a few years ago they had hundreds and thousands of Muslim women protesting in Istanbul and other major Turkish cities against the hijab being introduced into university's and government buildings.
yea i think that is the stupidest thing on earth! lol I think African people should protest too when westerners want to wear a pair a pants inside their universities. After all wearing pants will only cause trouble in Africa
yes i know who he is.. that white guy or atleast he wanted to be like white people. And sadly enough the turkish people were actually fooled into believing their own culture was garbage. What kind of people is that? Thank God Turkey is starting to wake up. That dude was another Hitler
When I was in Turkey I always put hijab like this, I loved it so much!!
tomahshari2009 2 months ago
It makes me sick to see the Arab Terrorists Bomb the Ottoman Railways & slaughter thousands of White Turks!
Remember the Turks were the allies of the Germans & must be respected!
IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE KORAN THIS GREEK VEIL THE SAUDIS COPIED
whitechristian1066 4 months ago
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It makes me sick to see the Arab Terrorists Bomb the Ottoman Railways & slaughter thousands of White Turks!
Remember the Turks were the allies of the Germans & must be respected!
whitechristian1066 4 months ago
this is looks very nice and respectable ladey
MRABDULQUDOOSKHAN 6 months ago
Everybody dressed modestly. Not just Muslims. if you go back only about 50 years or so in Europe. Women did dress modestly with long dresses and even scarves to cover their hair. in the Bible stated by St Paul if a women shows her hair as a punishment her hair would need to be shaved off. so modesty has always been the norm until the so called liberation of women in the 60s were the idea of the more naked you are the more civilised you become was promoted by the media.
BlackPower991 1 year ago 2
@BlackPower991 I'm all for modest dress, but the central idea is about CHOICE. It's not a man's job to dictate how a woman MUST dress. And it's not a woman's job to dictate how I dress. I don't go around killing/beating women who don't dress according to my standards, and I expect the same in return. Is that too complicated?
zontar4444 2 months ago
@zontar4444 I agree, CHOICE is important in my opinion too. However standards that you mentioned your post is a key problem. Who defines standards and how can we all agree on that standards. because as I free man living in a free country I should be able to walk outside naked. But If I did this I will not only be beaten up in the street I will also be arrested and sent to jail. And I can assure you that even yourself who is promoting CHOICE wouldn't stand up to protect my CHOICE.
BlackPower991 1 month ago
i always wondered... don't you ever get warm wearing a hijab in the hot summer seasons? Hijab sure looks cozy in the winter though!
VlogwithEmma 1 year ago
@VlogwithEmma if you wear the wrong fabric during the sumer it can be hot. I like to wear cool sheer and silky like fabrics during the summer and cotton like fabrics during winter :)
hijabiflower 1 year ago
There is a Muslim lady in my class. She wears hijab. She will not even look at me. I always look at her beautiful face, but she will not look at me. But, it turns out, this made me respect her. Still, a smile would be polite.
WaleedRahman 2 years ago 4
She is showing MORE respect to you by not looking at you, it would be polite of you, if you did the same and lowered your gaze brother
salam aleikum
hijabiflower 2 years ago 2
I'm muslim and I understand what your talking about when I first became muslim my clothes were just plain old Islamic clothing I'm not saying make your self look ugly, But buying all the exspensive clothing and high fashion clothes your really not suppose to that. And if we do We are no different from the magazines.I know buy the 3 regular pieces and it cheap. Enough with the showing off because when you just like that some men are still not afraid to approach you.
clinique8701 2 years ago
thx for understanding what i was trying to say. im glad u take that part of ur religion seriously. even though i dont believe in islam, i think a person who believes in it shouldnt just blindly follow a rule like "only show ur face and ur hands", but understand what is meant by that. and i think the true meaning of that rule is to not look appealing to men.
Whitewaterlily04 2 years ago
coz girls walking around in hijab with makeup and sexy clothes (even if those clothes cover her) just defeats the object. they would even draw less attention towards themselves, if they didnt wear hijab, but clothed themselves more chary/unnoticably (cant think of the right word).
Whitewaterlily04 2 years ago
So, basically you can't look modest WITHOUT hijab????
mjmichu 2 years ago
yes you can look modest without hijab. But hijab is the highest and most humble level of modesty. It is the ultimate symbol of spritual royalty (even though some ignorant girls wear it for fashion or to look sexy; defeating it's purpose)
hijabiflower 2 years ago 4
@hijabiflower the problem is, is that it IS sexy! i know that's not the intent and i have the utmost respect for what the girls that wear the Hijab are trying to do, but wow! i really dig Arab girls who wear it.
garywingrove 3 months ago
but in islam arent the women supposed to hide their beauty to strangers or to show it off? but turkey sure has some beautiful women :)
haris1254 2 years ago
no, you can be beautiful but in a modest way :-)
hijabiflower 2 years ago
OH, I didnt know that! :)
haris1254 2 years ago
i think these women are trying to look more european. alot of makeup and the clothing is not traditional but fashion designs that look like european. Turkey has a choice. they could have choosen the conservative styles but since they are a developed country they rather look like white women. why not post a video on how the real, traditional burka or hijab, or the plain black color of saudi is so beautifful. I think this is natural female competetion, posting this video :)
haris1254 2 years ago
where do you get the lovely scarf material to wrap your head?
staceyannec 2 years ago
i live in Saudi Arabia... but i really dunno how to wear this turkish hijab! kindly help plz or plz could anyone make a vedio and show the deomonstration how to wear these perfect turkish hijab.. as shown in the vedio above .. your help will be appreciated .. Thanks
Qtcherrygrl 2 years ago
the block button is amazing innit?! :)
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Hijab,
I told you the only reward you will get in jennah is to look alittle more prittier (which is pointless cause the pritty bar is raised to the same level for all muslimas, meanings if your unattractive youll still be unattractive i jennah) and your husband (whoops! what if you dont have one)
You husband (if you have one) will be banging these wide eyed girls in heaven. We Christians believe there will be no filth in Heaven especially not orgies of lustful sex.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
White guy? Please dont be racist Ataturk might have been white but theres no need for you to make fun of him because of that. If Turks are waking up then why did they have a millions of people marching in support of Ataturk a few years ago? Plus the killing of Muslim brothers and sister in Kurdistan by the Turks?
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
im not racist towards whites my grandfather was white, but if you think about it every where white people rule there is curroption. It happened to the Native Americans and now they're gone. It happened to the Africans and now they dont know where they come from. It happened to Turkey and now the people hate their culture, women were wearing hijab in turkey way way wayyy before Islam came there. Ataturk did nothing but cause turkish people to hate their culture and to worship european whites
hijabiflower 3 years ago
The original inhabitants of Asia Minor were Christians, Pagans and Jewish. But after the Asian Muslims from the East (Turks) invaded and they inbred with the local population thus you see many "white" Turks today. Your claim that they were wearing hijab before the Islam occupation is baseless and void of facts.
Your grandfather might have been white but you seem to have a hatred of them. This is shameful.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
Do the research before you say someone is making up void facts, traditional turkish dress has hijab and modest dress. The original turks were not white they were moors (people of color) and yes my grandfather was white (italian) but I dont have hatred towards whites at all. I just hate white supremacy especially when it poisons ethnic people bringing them to kill and divide themselves from their sisters just because she is wearing a scarf on her hair as the original turkish women did
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Ofcourse they dressed modestly just as they did in Briton, Spain, Russian and virtually the rest of the civilised world. The hijab was created AFTER Islam. The modestly dressed women wore primitive sheets of cloth not hijabs.
The Turkic people have no connection with the Moors of Northern Africa.
I have no respect for white supremacists just as I dont have respect for Islamic supremacists who insist they are the great people on earth and all non-Muslims must submit to their will.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
all of the "civilized" world? that sounds a bit white supremist to me. Anyways the point is turkesh women like all women in the so called "civilized" world are naturally modest whether they were muslim or not the practice of covering your hair as a distinct feminine dress is hijab whether it be up to islamic standards or not. It only a society's sex obsessed culture that tell women to look skinny and anorexic and to wear clothes with their buttocks and boobs hanging out that despise modesty
hijabiflower 3 years ago
I understand your point and both of use agree that women should not be walking around like sluts. But for you to go on saying Hijabs gives women modesty is simply untrue. I have seen many Muslimas that wear hijab but inside they are immoral and sleep around. Judging someone by what they wear is pointless.
Civilised means they aren't cleaning their rear end with leaves.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
Absolutely. Girls who contradict the behavior that comes with hijab make wearing it absolutely pointless. They dont have modesty in their heart. But if a woman is looking in the mirror and she sees hijab while another woman looks in the mirror and she looks like eve from the garden of eden which women will most likely be reminded of her piety and self-worth? And which woman will most likely be disrespected by men? people still judge women on how they dress AND carry themselves
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Did muslim eve wear a burqa in jennah? Its a serious question that Ive always wondered.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
well the quran doesnt say.. but to be honost with you, If there is only ONE man that exists on earth and he is your husband and there is no such thing as a shop or a clothing store, and every male that comes after Adam is your son or grand-son, why would there be any need to hide your body?
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Earth? Muslim adam and eve were in jennah not like the true Adam and Eve from the Bible who were in the garden of Eden on earth.
Since Muslim eve was in allahs house naked, where was her modesty and did she have no shame to expose herself infront of allah?
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
even if she was in jennah you should know having been a muslim that the same law that applies on earth DOES NOT apply in Jennah. For example in jennah we can drink alcohol, eat pork, be naked infront of everyone you dont have to worry about being judged God already knows you lived a good life. But Eve was kicked out of jennah and I believe some christians believe the kingdom will be on earth once again but only the rightous will be resurrected again to live on it. But thats YOUR religion
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Yep Jennah a sin-fest, your not allowed to be dirty on this worthless earth but in the clean jennah your allowed to act like a pig. Great reward.... sigh
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
so you agree that eating pork and walking around naked is indeed a sin? You have to remember that our actions have consequences on earth, in jennah everything is different, there is no such thing as people having diabetes or psychological problems or shooting someone or catching AIDS or getting pregnant before marriage
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Dont put words in my mouth, I am looking at this topic from a muslim pov. Dont worry about AIDS in jennah just keep having your endless orgies. Too bad for you being a female you can only have sex with your husband whilst your husband will have many wide eyed beauties.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
you're not getting it. I wont be married in heaven. Its not like earth where there are laws to govern people, nobody is going to be offended or arrested in heaven. Every positive feeling you have on earth and yes that includes sexual feelings will be with you forever. Sex was created by God its not something you should think is dirty like those nuns who suppress themselves from sex because its "unholy"
hijabiflower 3 years ago
My dear your talking to a ex-Muslim who has been educated by scholars. I am by no means a scholars myself but I have a firm understanding of Islam. Some of your concepts of Jennah are not supported by the Quran and the sayings of Muhammad. The only reward you as a Muslima will get is to be x amount prittier than the hourin. THAT IS ALL NOTHING ELSE. While Muslim men on the other hand get endless sex orgies.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
what your saying makes no sense. Men have to have a woman to have sex with. And I believe those women will be women who lived in this life as well. So it only makes sense to say that I will haven sex in heaven too. I respect your decision to be an ex-muslim but I dont really think you see the big picture. Even if I would not be having sex in jennah, men are different from women. I personally dont understand women who want to have sex with 4 guys at the same time but boys operate differently
hijabiflower 3 years ago
sex does not equal filth. I would really like to see your sources where it says women will only be prettier (yes thats how you spell it) and that we will not get anything else. By the way if you christians are having sex on earth for recreation why would you want to stop when you go to heaven? I dont worship God 5 times a day to do it all over again when I die and go to heaven.
hijabiflower 3 years ago
I'm a muslim and I'm not a muslim because I want to have sex orgies...So I guess...in my view you have no understanding of islam lol.
surrealpast 2 years ago
No, your a Muslim because if you leave youll have your head cut off. But if you live in the Christian West, youll have protection against that.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Lol, I am a muslim and I live in Canada but wait...I'm still a Muslim? That might be the law in Saudi Arabia but you are most likely to be exiled. But then again, everyone in Saudi Arabia is muslim and no one complains...I wonder why :)
surrealpast 2 years ago
Ofcourse your still Muslim, funny how the Christians (Majority in Canada) are not imposing a Muslim only tax and be thankful they are not forcing you to be a second class citizen for your religion.
But the more your brothers keep killing the sooner the West will wake up. Government organisations are already monitoring every Mosque in the US. Canada will follow suit next Inshallah! ;)
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
You have distorted views on Islam on society, may Allah guide you.
surrealpast 2 years ago
Me? Tell that to your buddies in the Middle East =)
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
No need, you don't even know why they show any form of hatred towards the west so it's pointless to argue with someone so uneducated :)
surrealpast 2 years ago
They hate the West cause your satanic book orders violence in the name of allah (9:123)
Take away the Islam and 95% of terrorist attacks in the world would disappear over night.
Simple really :)
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Lol looks like you pressed the bull shit button. Making numbers outta ur ass, real nice :)
Anyways, may allah help you.
surrealpast 2 years ago
cowboy, you obviously dont know much about islam. stop learning islam from CNN. you shitty yank..
Raheel197 2 years ago
I dont watch your American nonsense. I prefer to have na open mind when I am first introduced to a topic. Then later when I have amassed enough knowledge I will act accordingly.
I get my views on Islam from the Quran, Muslim scholars and Muhammads sunnah. Everything I say which you might find offensive is found in your books. If you cant read thats not my issue.
TottingCowboy 2 years ago
Modern Turkey shuns its Islamic past, a few years ago they had hundreds and thousands of Muslim women protesting in Istanbul and other major Turkish cities against the hijab being introduced into university's and government buildings.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
yea i think that is the stupidest thing on earth! lol I think African people should protest too when westerners want to wear a pair a pants inside their universities. After all wearing pants will only cause trouble in Africa
hijabiflower 3 years ago
Blame Aturk the man idolized by many Turks. He abolished the Caliphate system and cleansed his country from Islamic laws.
TottingCowboy 3 years ago
yes i know who he is.. that white guy or atleast he wanted to be like white people. And sadly enough the turkish people were actually fooled into believing their own culture was garbage. What kind of people is that? Thank God Turkey is starting to wake up. That dude was another Hitler
hijabiflower 3 years ago
i think, its called tessetur (turkish fashion), if i could, i would so go to turkey just to shop
asaratkhandr 3 years ago
oh yesss old turkey iss sooo beautiful and to shop there?! Mind-blowing :)
hijabiflower 3 years ago
hey u know i was in an airport in turkey but i did not see any of the good fashion and they had alot of stores, very disapointing
asaratkhandr 3 years ago
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hey u know i was in an airport in turkey but i did not see any of the good fashion and they had alot of stores, very disapointing
asaratkhandr 3 years ago