THE MOST VALID PROOF,SCIENCE,DNA-TEST, igenea.com CONFIRM,WE ARE MACEDONIANS AND NOTHING ELSE SINCE EVER FOREVER,WE ARE GREAT GRAND SONS OF FILIP II MACEDONIAN (IV CENTERY B.C.), MACEDONIAN KING SAMUIL X CENTURY, MACEDONIAN GOCE DELCHEV (XX CENTURY), LANGUAGE MACEDONIAN SINCE EVER FOREVER,COUNTRY MACEDONIA SINCE EVER FOREVER, WE MACEDONIANS RESPECT EVERY ONE THE SAME WAY HOW HE RESPECT MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS
just look at their language now...it looks Bulgarian or Albanian to me..it is a Slavic language..! macedonians spoke and wrote in ancient Greek but no, they are slavs and not Greeks..that's naive..!don't bother answering to me..i am from Scandinavia and that's the history we learn about the Ancient Greek Period..!
MACEDONIA IS NOT BULGARIAN OR GREEK IT |"S MACEDONIAN ONLY MACEDONIANS LIVE IN MACEDONIAN AND IN GREECE 1.5 MACEDONIAN ARE LERIN KUKUS KUSTUR SOLUN...............................
If your point was to convince people that you are a "real Macedonian", then you sir, have failed. The Slavs (you) drove off the Greeks from Macedonia, yes that includes every possible descendant of the Ancient Macedonians, and now you claim to be "true Macedonians"? You are Slavs. FUCK OFF
LESSON 1 Alexandros was king of Macedon, one of the states of Greece(Plutarchos) LESSON 2 "And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece"(Strabo VII, Frg. 9) LESSON 3 Alexandros said: For as Hellenes we? should not be slaves to barbarians"(Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15) LESSON 4 MEGAS ALEXANDROS MADE GREECE THE MOST POWERFUL & GLORIOUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD [Pliny the Elder] LESSON 5 ALEXANDROS IS A HELLENE [Oration of Demosthenes] LESSON 6 Macedonians spoke Greek [Titus Livius],learn history ha
@metodi78 Your are dumb Greece had a war of independence in 1821and ended in 1832 and the kingdom of greece was formed. Greece was finally united and over the years gained the territories it once had occupied in the past. You dumb motherfucker, ya greece as a country was formed not long ago but our culture and history has been around for thousands of years. Get the communist propaganda out your head your country was created in 1940's with the breakup of yugoslavia. You history started in 1991.
@quaabhunter If we were under Ottoman empire for 5 centuries that doesnt mean that we dont have history monkey...stupid gifto tribe from africa with 500 billion debt ...
@metodi78 wow yousuck badly plusyour propaganda sucks.didn't you ever hear that Philippos and Alexander belong to Argead/Timenid dynasty wich had it's roots in the city of Argos(Pelopponissos.south greece).And true greece doesnt existed as a state,but at that era there were different states and kingdoms with same culture,greek culture,like sparta athens and makedonia.open a book or visit wikipedia looser...
@extrememark13 Greece doesnt exist in that time !!! I can speak old hellenic and that doesnt make me Old Hellenic like all of you who accept and modified that language ....There is no problem,be wjat u want but just recognize macedonians in aegean part and dont say bullshits...they are living there for centuries !!!
@quaabhunter and dont replay me please with ur ignorant debates ..... 1913 year 51% of Macedonia felt under new made "Greek" state and shut the fuck up.
@metodi78 Oh FUCK OFF you have nothing no proof whatsoever nothing nada! Can you show me a coin from ancient macedon that dosent have greek letters every history channel show on macedon or alexander the great clearly show him as greek. Maybe if you fyromonkeys actually had one single etch of proof we could actually believe you but you will always be slavs that speak a sort of bulgarian. You came here in the sixth century face the facts or be the monkey of the planet which you already are.
@metodi78 Bitch, Macedonia was Greek before you Slavs even came to Europe. You drove off the Greeks (Yes, the Macedonians) and no Greek ever stepped foot in Macedonia UNTIL WE CLAIMED BACK WHATS OURS!
It was because of Alexander that Greek became the lingua franca (the “common language”) of the peoples in the Mediterranean world during the so-called “Hellenistic times” (last three centuries before Christ), and that’s why the New Testament was written in Greek.
Alexander’s conquests spread to Asia and North Africa the Greek language, not some supposedly different Macedonian language, although Alexander’s army was Macedonian. (Do you think the Macedonians helped spread a language foreign to them?)
there is not a single ancient Macedonian scripture unearthed in archeological sites that is not in Greek, or that hints at a language other than Greek. All Macedonian names are Greek, as I already discussed. The people of ancient Macedonia were understanding Attic Greek; we know this because Euripides’s theatrical plays, for instance, were performed in Macedonia, and the public attended those plays, obviously understanding them. (There is no evidence of translations of such works in antiquity.)
I'm Vlaho-Macedonian, designated as being the descendants of the Ancient Macedonians by Anna Komemnos whom reported that Emperor Manuel of the Macedonian dynasty of the Byzantine Empire was Vlach.
Anna Komemnos lived long before 1991 when you decided to steal our name, or 1945 when Tito forcefully named you Macedonians.
omg propaganda macedonia had a war with greece lmao greece dint exist as a country, they where all states (KINGDOMS) macedonia thrace athina sparta minoa ect, but all states spoke a hellinic language WORSHIPED HELLINIC GODS FROM MOUNT OLYMPUS IN MACEDONIA SO HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ARE WE THE SAME FROM THE SAME ROOTS ????? NO YOUR SLAVS!
Attention Fyromians: Most countries recognize you as "Republic of Macedonia" and recognize your nation's right to name themselves what ever they want. Those same countries wouldn't care if you wanted to name yourselves the Republic of Willy Wonka. But none of those countries believe that you have the right to hijack ancient historical figures from Greece and modern historical figures from Bulgaria just so you can create a culture.
Боже Господи ,македончета научете история и по точно не крадете.Държавата на Самул(нека така я наречем) през тези векове си има вземане даване с Византийската империя.Императора се казва Василий ІІ българоубиец,интересно защо се казва така а не македоноубиец.Този факт във вашата история вероятно липсва.Този император пленява и ослепява българите като на всеки 100 човека оставя един с едно око да води останалите,Самул ги вижда,получава удар и умира.
This video is retarded due to the fact that Karanus (guy who founded Macedon) was the Prince of Argos of the Termindae family. Argos was in the PELOPONESE, Southern GREECE.
Also how were the Macedonians culturally different from the Greeks but not with you when your ancestors arrived like 1 thousand years after them and spoke a slavic language which they use today?
@metodi78 ей олигофренясал помияр, само знаете да псувате, защото истината ви идва в повече. Като няма какво да кажете за да се защитите, почвате веднага да псувате. Вие сте най-промитите мозъци. По- прости хора от вас до сега не знам!!! Бог да ви е на помощ.
na teb i na etiopcite :))) Na kakav ezik se govorile Bulgarite pred slavianizaciata? Na Turski. Kade e bila prvata bugarska drzava i kakvo op6to ima so deneshnata? Zad kaspiskoto more i nema ni6to op6to,aide karai muljkata tatarin i ela si v maika Makedonija
Така е ние българите имаме хилядолетна история. Учим си я такава каквато е и се гордеем с нея. Не сме измислено народче създадено с указ на КПСС и югокомунистите.
@CAKIMacedonian Да бе знам :))) То преди това ама никъде никога не се споменава българи, България, български Царе..... :))) И преди да ми кажеш, че византийците наричали всички vulgaros да те запитам араби, хуни, авари, маджари.... що не са ги наричали и тях така ? :)
@CAKIMacedonian Значи Българите през 5-6-7 век говорели славянски език ??? Това е нещо ново, особенно като се има предвид, че Византия е разпознавала няколко славянски имена споменати със собствените си имена :)))) И още едно въпросче когато България сключва мирен договор с Византия през 681 Русия дали е съществувала изобщо ??? :)
@CAKIMacedonian По голям пример за шизофрения не бях срещал. Благодаря ти за изказването, надявам се повече хора да го прочетат. Знам, че много ще се смеят, но положението е по-скоро трагично.
@CAKIMacedonian :) Самуил македонски цар ли е? Климент македонски цар ли го праща в Охрид да прави школа и македонски цар ли я строи тази школа ? Апропо Пирин ще се върне на държавата Македония, когато държавата Македония върне регион Македония на България :))))))
@qbalka Samoil protiv kogo krena vostanie?Protiv t.n Bugari!
Znaci ako ne e Makedonec,togas vie Bugarite ste imale dve kralstva i 6 krala vo isto vreme..bravo be!
Makedonija ne moze da bide del od bugarija ednostavno poradi toa sto Makedonija e postara od 19 vek!A toa znaci deka bg e vtora Makedonija,koga veke i zborite Makedonski!
@CAKIMacedonian Пращам ти на лично линкове към "Летопис попа дюклянина", "Летопис Яхъ Антиохийски", Йоан Скилица и "Зогравска история" сам да си прочетеш. Относно Климент Охридски ще ти пратя линкове към "кратко житие на Климент" от Дмитрий Хоматиан и "Пространно житие" от Теофилакт. Моля като се запознаеш с материалите да си кажеш мнението.
@metodi78 Абе ти нормален ли си бе, боже ,,майка Македония'' ?Къде бяхте до 1944? Абе вие сте луди, перат ви ги мозъците сърбоманите, които ви управляват, къде видя турско име бе идиот - Аспарух, Крум, Борис, Тервел, Омуртаг ? Да, не са били славянски имена, но не са и турски.А на ,,Сашко велики'' какъв му е бил езикът ? Македонски ??? Или гръцки. И като си ,,македонец'' защо не пишеш на кирилица и нямаш буквата ,,ъ''? Докат не ви превземат албанците няма да се сетите кои сте...
@qbalka има няма 2000 години, ама това те не го осъзнават, щото са едни от най-неуките на Балканите. Убиваш ги с факти, документи, не та не. Гледат ,четат и пак си знаят тяхната. Сърбите са ги ебали не само в гъза ами и в мозъка!
and you are like some smartass, the fact is that greece has done terrible things over macedonians and all our neigbours , in the last 10 centures our "good" neigbours steals our culture showing like their own
it is not hard to beleive that one day the nazi greeks will claim that people of furom are greeks and they have greek culture
Greece has done terrible things.Well,the US does at this very moment terrible things,yet u are not complaining about that,but about "stealing ur clture"
What about the serbs?They have u enslaved in Jugoslavia?And before that i quess the bulgarians have stollen ur history!And what about the albanians?
Nazi greek?Are u aware what nazi means?
stop beeng nationalist.Macedonia is beautyfull place.Speaking like that makes us ting u dont like foreigners at all.
Whatever you say Macedonian you cant be cause theres no Macedonian nation. Macedonians become one with Greeks you liked it or not, prooves in elements, everything just Greek! Words,coins, Gods,culture....Everything, Alexander accepted the Greek language and filosofy so stop dreaming and stealing other nation's History. Learn better your SlavHistory, see what Gligorov says about your "Macedonian" History"
There is no Greek state before 1829..... Grecos=Roman word.There was just helenistic culture and all tribes there was helenized,there are no greek nation that is mix brainwashed scum there,bankrupt state...giftos
@metodi78 ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt) - 95-175 AD
macedonia to the bulgarians. with capital solun of mongolia. cry skopjan, macedonian never...NEVER. we will be here until the end of time to remind you are a shit hole. veto..timeless... haha!
Your ancestors invaded Macedon and the REST of GREECE and did us harm. I have been appointed commander in chief of the GReeks.. Alexander the Great. Period. This all the proof you needed if you had free minds but you are a bunch of brainwashed clowns, so such your timeless veto now haha! fools
Fyromians- ex Yugoslav Skopjans go speak bulgarian dialect and learn your slavic history and stop claiming macedonia is yours. you are just wannabe thieves of greek history.
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Yes corectly Macedonia 4 Macedonians forever , but who ever said you are one ? Macedonians are Greeks like Cretans Peloponesse Epirotans Thracians Atheneans .....as for you , you were otoman for 530 years ,after bulgarian , and than south serbian , and than vardarskan ,and than yugoslavian and than former yugoslav macedonski , in other words a globally unknown balkan population ...not Macedonian
Fuck u asshole Ethiopian scum,Macedonia Timeless .You can just eat shits all the time.Nothing will change.And ur EU will break out soon u can eat my cock than loosers -200 billion euros loan.Your state will bankrupt soon.
get your refugee camp ready metodi .... you will enjoy the trip if you are still around , filthy slavic RAT that you dare to use the Greek name Macedonia
"...We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians..."
Alexander the Great - Speech at Olympic Games.
"...Men of Athens... Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you, but I'am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery..."
HAh so funny ,why don't you show us where was your "macedonia" in the Middle ages ?It was part of tha Bulgarian Kingdom from 8-th to 14-th century until the turks arive ,BUT THE PEOPLE THERE ARE 100% BULGARIANS AND THERE ARE 100000000000 PROVES ABOUT THAT . "MACEDONIAN" NATION DOESN'T EXIST ,AND HAD NEVER EXISTED
and you are a new idea since 1945. Can't you understand that you're Slavs... Alexander spoke Ancient Greek, and we speak modern Greek a historical evolution of that language.
Hungarians call themsekves Mayar Japanese call Japan Nippon Chinese call themselves Zhong Guo Rien Greeks call ourselves Hellenes.
Greeks/Yunanis/Romioi/Hellenes speak Greek for the last 4000 years. WE KNOW WHO WE ARE! The world knows who we are. In any encyclopaedia under Greeks you will read about our continous history. Tragically many of you don't know who you are, though reality shouts at you, you're still confused. You speak Slavic yet you think you are (of the ancient Greek) Macedonians.
being the most ancient indoeuropean nation with a continous proven existence in the lower Balkan peninsula since 2000BC and a written language documented since the 1550's it is natural that we have had many names: Achaioi, Danaoi, Hellenes, Argitai, Graecoi, Romioi, Iones. The Eastern nations call us either Rum (Romioi) or Yunan/Yavan/Yauna/Yunani (Iones), while the West call us (Greci, Greques, Greeks, etc (Graecoi). Many names - same nation.
I mean the 1550s BEFORE Christ...I kno these numbers sound incredible to someone whose language has been formed by Tito's Grammarians in the earkly 1950's AFTER CHRIST...some 50 years ago...but this is something you have to deal with...and no matter how many idiotic theories some of you try to invent, you can not go around historic FACTS.
By the way, yes Greece became a modern nation state in the 1820s. It still makes us among the first independent European nations (before Italy or Germany)
Methodie, can you please explain the gap that you left after you told us in your simplton's way nout ancient Macedonia, and then what? What about Roman conquest, Byzantium the descent of the Slavs, The Bulgarians the Serbs, the Ottomans...how do you think the ancient Macedonians and FYROM's people have anything in common, besides the fact that you ururped their name?
there was nnothing known as greeks in ancient times only hellens
greece became a nation in 1827 in ancient days there was MACEDONIA epirus illyria thrace but no greece so ur not an ancient desendent of the ancient hellens ur a modern greek NOT hellene macedonia = desendent from ancient macedonain
so how do i know ur not a desendent of ancient hellens ohh yeee ur GREEK NOT HELLENE
Calling yourself a hotcunt and calling me a dikhed only betrays your distressed sexuality. We are too far for me to be of any help, sorry. On the intelectual level, if you want to learn, we can try to have a conversation, but you have to try to be intelectually stimulating and not insulting, as many Skopjans are very capable off (some Greeks unfortunately too, I apologize for them).
I present in the video just problematic period of Macedonia,new history before 600 years is very clear,we have the documents from Istambul about that period when Ottomans was ruling in that region called Macedonia
we real macedonians are only greeks and nothin else!!!our history is greek!!!king caranus was from peloponissus south greek!!!and alexader spread the hellenic culture!!!
Hehe today´s FYROMians have nothing with the old macedonia...the todays Fyromians are slavs.. ->and this is the point... i dont know where is the problem...But i really dont think that the old macedonians really call themselves greeks..It isnt so interesting for me but i know that the todays fyromians have nothing together....Greets from Croatia peace!
They said FYROMIANS that Phillip the second and Alexander the Great took part in the Olympic games and won medals but, BUT the first Olympic games took part by Greek and ONLY GREEK!!! Explain that you piss of shit!!!
Dude you do not know ANYTHING FROM HISTORY. From now on i ignore you! Time will so that your people will lose.. and stop this propaganda! But as a friend of mine said... The mistake is ours...because when we had the chance...we did not took your heads for our soccer balls. Greeks EXISTED from ancient years... B.C. !!! Die man! :) Have a nice day....and those days are limited ! Greece ABOVE ALL ! You ARE IN MY IGNORE LIST!!! MACEDONIA IS GREEK
metodi78 you said tha Alexander The Great want to participate to the olympics but the Greeks did not let him... i agry with that but learn THAT ALEXANDER AFTER PROVE TO GREEK THA HE WAS GREEK ! AND THEY LET HIM TO PARTICIPATE TO THE OLYMPIC ! your propaganda will not pass ... ANCIENT GREEK ARE WRIGHTEN TO PHILIPOS GRAVE! and another thing... don't you wonder ... why Alexander educated BY ARISTOTELIS?? WHY HIS NAME IS ALEXANDER AND NOT ALEXANDEREFKI???????? everyone is laughing with you...
the Macedonian king Alexander I attempted to participate in the Olympic Games, and met with resistance by competitors, who regarded him as a non-Hellene. According to Herodotus
This is from Wikipedia for explanation,not from me.
ALEXANDER THE GREAT BORN IN PELLA WHICH IS IN GREECE! HE WORSHIPED GREEK GODS,HE SPOKE ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE!and you fucking slav gypsies say that wasnt greek!
ALEXANDER THE GREAT BORN IN PELLA WHICH IS IN GREECE-since 1913,never before.
HE WORSHIPED GREEK GODS,HE SPOKE ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE!-I live in Strumica-old name Astarion(old greek name)so Am i Greek? Cosmos is Old Elin word,Is Cosmos(universe) greek?
and you fucking slav gypsies say that wasnt greek!-We are mixed with Slavs like all here and im fucking White,sorry
The truth hurts, doesn't it FYRO'M'??? Yes the truth hurts thats the reason why u wanna erase Macedonia,becouse its stolen land.
this is some bullshit.there was never such a country.Bulgaria stated the Autonomy of Macedonia, not Greece sorry to tell you mixalis9292.Macedonia was a part of Bulgaria but the other countries from the European Union made the Bulgaria to sign a document for the independence of Macedonia.This is how this country was found.
"streanghthened its occupation of greece"? hello!? greek city-states were AUTONOMOUS? read some history before u post videos.
and i love the potery saying "macedonia" and "greece" that you present as evidence. I suppose the greeks of the time wrote it? Does it also say "turkey" on the right and "albania" to the north-west?
"...and she was not there forever, but after the cataclysm of Defkalion, which occurred in the Hellenic area, in fact, in the ancient Hellas, which was around Dodoni, and it changed many times the flow of Acheloos river. In that area live the Selloi and the ones that were once called GRAECOI and are now called HELLENES..."
the regional prison of Skopje, convicted to death penalty by the Bitola military field court in the lawsuit 133/941 according to the Law for Defense of the State
Never in my life I've been thinking or acting criminally, whatsoever and especially towards the Bulgarian state, which we all -- slaves Bulgarians have been waiting with anxiety in our souls since long time: to liberate and reunite us within its mothers embrace.Ihm son of Bulgarian parents; I consider and feel myself Bulgarian, despite of the horrible slavery, I've preserved the Bulgarian way of life, language and temper.
One more time I address my appeal to YOU, and YOUR PARENTAL HEART for YOUR ROYAL MERCY -- to replace my death penalty with other kind of punishment, persuading You that one day, when I'll comeback to the free life thanks to YOUR ROYAL MERCY -- I will succeed to embrace the dearest lesson in my life, to be worthy Bulgarian with my work and faithful subject of YOUR HIGHNESS and mother Bulgaria!
I will succeed to embrace the dearest lesson in my life, to be worthy Bulgarian with my work and faithful subject of YOUR HIGHNESS and mother Bulgaria!
Skopje, 7th of December 1941
Truly faithful to YOUR HIGHNESS:
Signature
Prisoner at the regional prison Skopje
This man was later to change his name to Lazo Kolishevski and to become President of the Peoples Republic of Macedonia under the Yugoslav Federation.
"...the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians".
Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
where are the ... ancient makedonksy nation and language?
"Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity".
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
uknown27 : any evidence? All you fyromians are answering in Historical documents with: 1.fuck you Greece 2. we will show you 3.greeks tells lies 4. scientists say lies 5.you are gay 6.If my grandmother had testicles would be my grandfather ( IF) 7.Solun is an ancient macedonjan city. The bad Greeks changed the name in 1913 8.Macedons had distinct Language but we cannot ptove it. Lack of Evidence justifies us....... NOT EVEN A LOGICAL ANSWER ........................
Orestes (son of Agamemnon of Mycines) after killing his mother (Clytemnestra), was exiled in the northern Greece and created a city named Argos Orestikon!
Alexander (grand father of Alexandros the Great) in order to take part in Olympic Games he proved that he was Greek from Oreste's genealogical tree!
By The Way:
Only Greeks had the Honor to participate in Olympic Games.
Olympias (376--316BC) apparently was originally named Myrtale or Mistilis. Later she was named Olympias as recognition of Philip's victory in the Olympic Games of 356 BC.
She was mother of Alexander and the wife of Philip, she descent from the lineage of Aeacidae (a very well respected family of Greece since Achilles). She was daughter of Neoptolemus King of Epirus, descent from Neoptolemus son of Achilles, basis of Alexander's claims to be a new Achilles as a descendant of him!
If Filippos & Alexandros were not Greeks & "had" a language other than Hellenic where is a coin, an inscription, an artifact, in that language? Everything found is written in Greek: ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ.
What the hell! He was the Mighty King Fillipos and his son the Emperor Alexandros. Why Macedons never wrote something in their ancestor's «language"?
Paranoid: Macedonians used -and Alexandros spread in his territories - the language of their enemies: The Greeks !
Yes you are right.Macedonians was speaking your slav-bulgarian language and a great consiparacy from the evil greeks supported by scholars from all around the world denies this fact and insist that macedonias were just a greek tribe. :) Go and unite with bulgary before the albanians take over your state.
THE MOST VALID PROOF,SCIENCE,DNA-TEST, igenea.com CONFIRM,WE ARE MACEDONIANS AND NOTHING ELSE SINCE EVER FOREVER,WE ARE GREAT GRAND SONS OF FILIP II MACEDONIAN (IV CENTERY B.C.), MACEDONIAN KING SAMUIL X CENTURY, MACEDONIAN GOCE DELCHEV (XX CENTURY), LANGUAGE MACEDONIAN SINCE EVER FOREVER,COUNTRY MACEDONIA SINCE EVER FOREVER, WE MACEDONIANS RESPECT EVERY ONE THE SAME WAY HOW HE RESPECT MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS
MACEDONIANPAVLEMKD 1 month ago
Tzar Samuil is bulgarian
sashogun100 1 month ago
just look at their language now...it looks Bulgarian or Albanian to me..it is a Slavic language..! macedonians spoke and wrote in ancient Greek but no, they are slavs and not Greeks..that's naive..!don't bother answering to me..i am from Scandinavia and that's the history we learn about the Ancient Greek Period..!
christianotelo 1 month ago
MACEDONIA IS NOT BULGARIAN OR GREEK IT |"S MACEDONIAN ONLY MACEDONIANS LIVE IN MACEDONIAN AND IN GREECE 1.5 MACEDONIAN ARE LERIN KUKUS KUSTUR SOLUN...............................
MrKristijan97 1 month ago
If your point was to convince people that you are a "real Macedonian", then you sir, have failed. The Slavs (you) drove off the Greeks from Macedonia, yes that includes every possible descendant of the Ancient Macedonians, and now you claim to be "true Macedonians"? You are Slavs. FUCK OFF
BeyFan97 5 months ago
LESSON 1 Alexandros was king of Macedon, one of the states of Greece(Plutarchos) LESSON 2 "And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece"(Strabo VII, Frg. 9) LESSON 3 Alexandros said: For as Hellenes we? should not be slaves to barbarians"(Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15) LESSON 4 MEGAS ALEXANDROS MADE GREECE THE MOST POWERFUL & GLORIOUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD [Pliny the Elder] LESSON 5 ALEXANDROS IS A HELLENE [Oration of Demosthenes] LESSON 6 Macedonians spoke Greek [Titus Livius],learn history ha
quaabhunter 5 months ago
@quaabhunter Lesson 7 - in that time greece doesn't exist like a state !!! Greece is formed 1898 fuck off
metodi78 5 months ago
@metodi78 Your are dumb Greece had a war of independence in 1821and ended in 1832 and the kingdom of greece was formed. Greece was finally united and over the years gained the territories it once had occupied in the past. You dumb motherfucker, ya greece as a country was formed not long ago but our culture and history has been around for thousands of years. Get the communist propaganda out your head your country was created in 1940's with the breakup of yugoslavia. You history started in 1991.
quaabhunter 5 months ago
@quaabhunter If we were under Ottoman empire for 5 centuries that doesnt mean that we dont have history monkey...stupid gifto tribe from africa with 500 billion debt ...
metodi78 5 months ago
@metodi78 wow yousuck badly plusyour propaganda sucks.didn't you ever hear that Philippos and Alexander belong to Argead/Timenid dynasty wich had it's roots in the city of Argos(Pelopponissos.south greece).And true greece doesnt existed as a state,but at that era there were different states and kingdoms with same culture,greek culture,like sparta athens and makedonia.open a book or visit wikipedia looser...
extrememark13 5 months ago
@extrememark13 Greece doesnt exist in that time !!! I can speak old hellenic and that doesnt make me Old Hellenic like all of you who accept and modified that language ....There is no problem,be wjat u want but just recognize macedonians in aegean part and dont say bullshits...they are living there for centuries !!!
metodi78 5 months ago
@metodi78 why?the ancient macedonians were hellenic as the so many proofs shown us...you steal other people's identity.
extrememark13 5 months ago
@quaabhunter and dont replay me please with ur ignorant debates ..... 1913 year 51% of Macedonia felt under new made "Greek" state and shut the fuck up.
metodi78 5 months ago 2
@metodi78 Oh FUCK OFF you have nothing no proof whatsoever nothing nada! Can you show me a coin from ancient macedon that dosent have greek letters every history channel show on macedon or alexander the great clearly show him as greek. Maybe if you fyromonkeys actually had one single etch of proof we could actually believe you but you will always be slavs that speak a sort of bulgarian. You came here in the sixth century face the facts or be the monkey of the planet which you already are.
quaabhunter 5 months ago
@metodi78 Bitch, Macedonia was Greek before you Slavs even came to Europe. You drove off the Greeks (Yes, the Macedonians) and no Greek ever stepped foot in Macedonia UNTIL WE CLAIMED BACK WHATS OURS!
BeyFan97 5 months ago
@metodi78 "Macedonia" in that context is the former turkish Region of.
There have been numerous "Macedonia" regions and one Kingdom of Macedon, all of which are completely different things.
Dumbass.
thegreathistorian7 5 months ago
It was because of Alexander that Greek became the lingua franca (the “common language”) of the peoples in the Mediterranean world during the so-called “Hellenistic times” (last three centuries before Christ), and that’s why the New Testament was written in Greek.
PlemonatosXalkederos 5 months ago
Alexander’s conquests spread to Asia and North Africa the Greek language, not some supposedly different Macedonian language, although Alexander’s army was Macedonian. (Do you think the Macedonians helped spread a language foreign to them?)
PlemonatosXalkederos 5 months ago
there is not a single ancient Macedonian scripture unearthed in archeological sites that is not in Greek, or that hints at a language other than Greek. All Macedonian names are Greek, as I already discussed. The people of ancient Macedonia were understanding Attic Greek; we know this because Euripides’s theatrical plays, for instance, were performed in Macedonia, and the public attended those plays, obviously understanding them. (There is no evidence of translations of such works in antiquity.)
PlemonatosXalkederos 5 months ago
I am Macedonian, not Slav.
I do not accept for the people of FYROM whom are Sklaveni/South Slavs, to steal my name and my history.
The people of FYROM are using propagandist methods in order to try and convince the world that they are something they can never be.
The Macedonians were, are and always will be Hellenic people.
The people of FYROM were, are and always will be Slavic people.
They have absolutely no right over the history and name of my people. NEVER!
shockolanu 5 months ago
@shockolanu Gifto are be sikter malaka ...mavro malkas makedonas hahahahhaha gifto africanos
metodi78 5 months ago
@metodi78
I'm Vlaho-Macedonian, designated as being the descendants of the Ancient Macedonians by Anna Komemnos whom reported that Emperor Manuel of the Macedonian dynasty of the Byzantine Empire was Vlach.
Anna Komemnos lived long before 1991 when you decided to steal our name, or 1945 when Tito forcefully named you Macedonians.
shockolanu 5 months ago
We are the real Macedonians not the black greeks !!!
metodi78 5 months ago
@metodi78
Why? Just because you named yourself Metodi? Just because you think you are Macedonians?
Ethnography, history, linguistics, genetics don't lie. You are Tito's invention with a stolen name from us.
If you are Macedonians, why are you not Hellenic and you are Slavic all day long?
You Slavs think you can fit in our shoes, but in fact you picked the wrong history to steal.
Go steal from the 25% Albanians of your country. Go steal from the 25% Bulgarians of your country, not from Greece!
shockolanu 5 months ago
omg propaganda macedonia had a war with greece lmao greece dint exist as a country, they where all states (KINGDOMS) macedonia thrace athina sparta minoa ect, but all states spoke a hellinic language WORSHIPED HELLINIC GODS FROM MOUNT OLYMPUS IN MACEDONIA SO HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ARE WE THE SAME FROM THE SAME ROOTS ????? NO YOUR SLAVS!
tisbales 5 months ago
Yet onother damn studip video
Ajde bidete si sega vie gordi promiti maimunodoni ama se symnqvam che sled vreme shte stanete gordi albanci ...
BulgaroM 5 months ago
Александар и Филип
is this shit written on the ancient documents??
this mean Alexander and Philipp
what was written on the documents " Александар и Филип " or " Αλέξανδρος και Φίλιππος " ?
stupid monkeydonians..
Tolisakis97 8 months ago
Real Macedonia?
Animation for MonkeyDonians
--> /watch?v=qSuEfi4NX5I
macedonianimation 9 months ago
И ова е целата наша историја хаха цицајте ми го МАКЕДОНСКИОТ КУР!
NexusMKD 11 months ago
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Attention Fyromians: Most countries recognize you as "Republic of Macedonia" and recognize your nation's right to name themselves what ever they want. Those same countries wouldn't care if you wanted to name yourselves the Republic of Willy Wonka. But none of those countries believe that you have the right to hijack ancient historical figures from Greece and modern historical figures from Bulgaria just so you can create a culture.
trisnna9801 1 year ago
Боже Господи ,македончета научете история и по точно не крадете.Държавата на Самул(нека така я наречем) през тези векове си има вземане даване с Византийската империя.Императора се казва Василий ІІ българоубиец,интересно защо се казва така а не македоноубиец.Този факт във вашата история вероятно липсва.Този император пленява и ослепява българите като на всеки 100 човека оставя един с едно око да води останалите,Самул ги вижда,получава удар и умира.
ko6uta133 1 year ago
This video is retarded due to the fact that Karanus (guy who founded Macedon) was the Prince of Argos of the Termindae family. Argos was in the PELOPONESE, Southern GREECE.
Also how were the Macedonians culturally different from the Greeks but not with you when your ancestors arrived like 1 thousand years after them and spoke a slavic language which they use today?
What a retard the maker of this video is...
This Video is Fail..
pliot5334 1 year ago
@pliot5334 yeah, the slavs came south and killed all the powerful macedonians. does this make sense to you????
macedonNYC 8 months ago
@macedonNYC Why do they all have greek names? And why does the coin in the beginning have greek on it?
Arkham456 7 months ago
WOW HOW STUPID CAN THESE SLAVS BE? ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK AND EVERYBODY ON THIS PLANET SAYS THE SAME.
charimakis 1 year ago 7
MACEDONIA IS GREEK / HELLENIC
BACK OFF SLAVS AND KEEP DREAMING
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
ΤΙ ΛΕΤΕ ΒΡΕ ΚΑΡΝΑΒΑΛΟΙ???Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ!!!!
apaleutos2 1 year ago
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the answer was given by Kiro Gligorov - The Macedonian Truth (03 06 1992)
look for it here on youtube....as of u people FYROMians....GET A LIFE!!!...
a real life with a identity that is yours!!!
kostasdania 1 year ago
МАКЕДОНИЈА ЗАСЕКОГАШ!!! ЕБИ ГРЦИ И ШИПТАРИ!
JuStPanChyyy 1 year ago
DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA
Nikola6676 1 year ago
odi duhai be mongol,da ti go turam u ustata za edna 4ervena? se6ta6 li se
metodi78 2 years ago
@metodi78 ей олигофренясал помияр, само знаете да псувате, защото истината ви идва в повече. Като няма какво да кажете за да се защитите, почвате веднага да псувате. Вие сте най-промитите мозъци. По- прости хора от вас до сега не знам!!! Бог да ви е на помощ.
Gerchi 1 year ago
Само на мен ли ми прави впечатление, че им се губят към 2000 години от историята. :))
I`m i the only one who thincks that they are missyng 2000 years of history? :)))
qbalka 2 years ago
na teb i na etiopcite :))) Na kakav ezik se govorile Bulgarite pred slavianizaciata? Na Turski. Kade e bila prvata bugarska drzava i kakvo op6to ima so deneshnata? Zad kaspiskoto more i nema ni6to op6to,aide karai muljkata tatarin i ela si v maika Makedonija
metodi78 2 years ago
Така е ние българите имаме хилядолетна история. Учим си я такава каквато е и се гордеем с нея. Не сме измислено народче създадено с указ на КПСС и югокомунистите.
qbalka 2 years ago
Epa bidi gord Tatarin,da si ziv i zdrav.
metodi78 2 years ago
@qbalka Ne pa vas Rusite ve sozdadoa!
CAKIMacedonian 1 year ago
@CAKIMacedonian Да бе знам :))) То преди това ама никъде никога не се споменава българи, България, български Царе..... :))) И преди да ми кажеш, че византийците наричали всички vulgaros да те запитам араби, хуни, авари, маджари.... що не са ги наричали и тях така ? :)
qbalka 1 year ago
@qbalka Vulgari gi narekuvale site koi go koristele Slovenskiot jazik!Ete zatoa!
Taka da...Rusija e vasiot kreator!
CAKIMacedonian 1 year ago
@CAKIMacedonian Значи Българите през 5-6-7 век говорели славянски език ??? Това е нещо ново, особенно като се има предвид, че Византия е разпознавала няколко славянски имена споменати със собствените си имена :)))) И още едно въпросче когато България сключва мирен договор с Византия през 681 Русия дали е съществувала изобщо ??? :)
qbalka 1 year ago
@qbalka Vo 6-7 vek Vulgari se narekuvaat Makedncite,kako sto podocna se narekuvat i Sloveni po nivnite mesta vo koi ziveele Sklavini!
Podocna Tatarite go prifakaat Makedonskiot jazik,i sekako deka i tie se narekuvaat Vulgari!
CAKIMacedonian 1 year ago
@CAKIMacedonian По голям пример за шизофрения не бях срещал. Благодаря ти за изказването, надявам се повече хора да го прочетат. Знам, че много ще се смеят, но положението е по-скоро трагично.
qbalka 1 year ago
@qbalka hhh...za primer mozes da gi zemes,samoil,kiril i metodij,kliment i naum!
Toa e toa!Citaj malku istorija i mozebi ke svativ..iako ne sakas!
PIRIN DA SE VRATI NA MAKEDONIJA
CAKIMacedonian 1 year ago
@CAKIMacedonian :) Самуил македонски цар ли е? Климент македонски цар ли го праща в Охрид да прави школа и македонски цар ли я строи тази школа ? Апропо Пирин ще се върне на държавата Македония, когато държавата Македония върне регион Македония на България :))))))
qbalka 1 year ago
@qbalka Samoil protiv kogo krena vostanie?Protiv t.n Bugari!
Znaci ako ne e Makedonec,togas vie Bugarite ste imale dve kralstva i 6 krala vo isto vreme..bravo be!
Makedonija ne moze da bide del od bugarija ednostavno poradi toa sto Makedonija e postara od 19 vek!A toa znaci deka bg e vtora Makedonija,koga veke i zborite Makedonski!
CAKIMacedonian 1 year ago
@CAKIMacedonian Пращам ти на лично линкове към "Летопис попа дюклянина", "Летопис Яхъ Антиохийски", Йоан Скилица и "Зогравска история" сам да си прочетеш. Относно Климент Охридски ще ти пратя линкове към "кратко житие на Климент" от Дмитрий Хоматиан и "Пространно житие" от Теофилакт. Моля като се запознаеш с материалите да си кажеш мнението.
qbalka 1 year ago
И да ти припомня Паисий : " О неразумни юроде, поради что се срамиш да се наречеш български". Това го е писал за такива като тебе.
qbalka 2 years ago
A znae6 li kvo e kazal metodi78? Ne si slagai glavata tam deka si merat negrite hulia
metodi78 2 years ago
@metodi78 Па незнаех, че си негър и че си мериш хуя с някой :))))))))
qbalka 8 months ago
@metodi78 Абе ти нормален ли си бе, боже ,,майка Македония'' ?Къде бяхте до 1944? Абе вие сте луди, перат ви ги мозъците сърбоманите, които ви управляват, къде видя турско име бе идиот - Аспарух, Крум, Борис, Тервел, Омуртаг ? Да, не са били славянски имена, но не са и турски.А на ,,Сашко велики'' какъв му е бил езикът ? Македонски ??? Или гръцки. И като си ,,македонец'' защо не пишеш на кирилица и нямаш буквата ,,ъ''? Докат не ви превземат албанците няма да се сетите кои сте...
danielBG1000 2 months ago
@qbalka има няма 2000 години, ама това те не го осъзнават, щото са едни от най-неуките на Балканите. Убиваш ги с факти, документи, не та не. Гледат ,четат и пак си знаят тяхната. Сърбите са ги ебали не само в гъза ами и в мозъка!
Gerchi 1 year ago
@qbalka Само на мен ли ми прави впечатление, че им се губят към 2000 години от историята
hmm
have you ever seen ancient MACEDONIAN coins? or statues??
is there written these letters??
is there written Само на мен or Αλεξανδρος
you fucking FAKE macedonians...trying to steal our history..
pff
Tolisakis97 9 months ago
@Tolisakis97 Are you lost in translation ??? :))) I`m not macedonian. I`m bulgarian ;)
qbalka 8 months ago
@qbalka hahahahhah...
im sorry..
it seems like monkeydonian.
maybe because they took it from you -.-
Tolisakis97 8 months ago
nowdays macedonia has nothing to do with the ancient times.Pls dont sell me that crap.
rozovo 2 years ago
but greece does yeah???
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
You are not making a point,but putting words in my mouth.Its a video about macedonia,not about greece.
cheese,its not greece,its BRAZILL!!!!!,or no,SURINAM,NEPAL,South Africa & the american Indian Nation!
U got my point?
rozovo 2 years ago
and you are like some smartass, the fact is that greece has done terrible things over macedonians and all our neigbours , in the last 10 centures our "good" neigbours steals our culture showing like their own
it is not hard to beleive that one day the nazi greeks will claim that people of furom are greeks and they have greek culture
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
Greece has done terrible things.Well,the US does at this very moment terrible things,yet u are not complaining about that,but about "stealing ur clture"
What about the serbs?They have u enslaved in Jugoslavia?And before that i quess the bulgarians have stollen ur history!And what about the albanians?
Nazi greek?Are u aware what nazi means?
stop beeng nationalist.Macedonia is beautyfull place.Speaking like that makes us ting u dont like foreigners at all.
rozovo 2 years ago
Whatever you say Macedonian you cant be cause theres no Macedonian nation. Macedonians become one with Greeks you liked it or not, prooves in elements, everything just Greek! Words,coins, Gods,culture....Everything, Alexander accepted the Greek language and filosofy so stop dreaming and stealing other nation's History. Learn better your SlavHistory, see what Gligorov says about your "Macedonian" History"
panos1977 2 years ago
There is no Greek state before 1829..... Grecos=Roman word.There was just helenistic culture and all tribes there was helenized,there are no greek nation that is mix brainwashed scum there,bankrupt state...giftos
metodi78 2 years ago
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@metodi78 ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt) - 95-175 AD
Is there anything else to say ??
???
2005defender 2 years ago
:))))-serbinans from Macedonia
poet4eto 2 years ago
mongols from bulgaria,get out from bulgaria fucken tatarstanians
metodi78 2 years ago
United MACEDONIA!CLEAN MACEDONIA!
umspio1893 2 years ago
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Lovely video.
These Greek clowns can amuse and please themselves as we know the real story behind their Albanian and Turkish ancenstry.
Macedonian76 2 years ago
vvvv Türk Nazi Birligi com
karkan18 2 years ago
Yes and in 1948 was a "civil" war right? haahhaaaaha (between Macedonians in comunist party and nazy greek supported by France and England
metodi78 2 years ago
Have you got any idea where the Greek civil war of 1948 took place?
stavrosasa 2 years ago
macedonia to the bulgarians. with capital solun of mongolia. cry skopjan, macedonian never...NEVER. we will be here until the end of time to remind you are a shit hole. veto..timeless... haha!
Your ancestors invaded Macedon and the REST of GREECE and did us harm. I have been appointed commander in chief of the GReeks.. Alexander the Great. Period. This all the proof you needed if you had free minds but you are a bunch of brainwashed clowns, so such your timeless veto now haha! fools
Staygold1gr 2 years ago
Talk to my hand Yunanistanian boy.
Salonika will be liberated again and u will be return to Turkey again cause you are very Evil.You will see that Yuni Gay
metodi78 2 years ago
Fyromians- ex Yugoslav Skopjans go speak bulgarian dialect and learn your slavic history and stop claiming macedonia is yours. you are just wannabe thieves of greek history.
brainstrommnc 2 years ago
NIce video......
Macedonia is Republic of Macedonian.....
greece is yunanistan...mother land is turkey......
MacedonWarrior 2 years ago
Yes Aegean Macedonia is Greek but from 1913...it will be back soon fucken giftos
metodi78 2 years ago
metodi78
it will return back to whom?
cause before 1913 it was ottoman and before that Byzantine
CLOWN
sath8 2 years ago
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Yes corectly Macedonia 4 Macedonians forever , but who ever said you are one ? Macedonians are Greeks like Cretans Peloponesse Epirotans Thracians Atheneans .....as for you , you were otoman for 530 years ,after bulgarian , and than south serbian , and than vardarskan ,and than yugoslavian and than former yugoslav macedonski , in other words a globally unknown balkan population ...not Macedonian
noaudito 3 years ago
Fuck u asshole Ethiopian scum,Macedonia Timeless .You can just eat shits all the time.Nothing will change.And ur EU will break out soon u can eat my cock than loosers -200 billion euros loan.Your state will bankrupt soon.
metodi78 3 years ago
veto timeless you slavic pieve of shit
you deserve solun it is true it is aprt of your history and heritage. by the way solun is a city in mongolia. muahaha! clowns
Staygold1gr 2 years ago
Fuck Yunanistan...go back to your mother Turkey
metodi78 3 years ago
Wake up, even the world rights organization recognizes only 250.000 monkeydonians in the world.... you are just a little village of rats!
graphattic 3 years ago
And you are just PAIN IN YOUR ASS...u will kill each other soon no need for turks to kill u
metodi78 3 years ago
get your refugee camp ready metodi .... you will enjoy the trip if you are still around , filthy slavic RAT that you dare to use the Greek name Macedonia
noaudito 3 years ago
Tito make the video?
Wow...i believe you now!
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
?Tito? who is that guy? You mean your mama?
metodi78 3 years ago
i dont understan bulgarian...
Speak Corectly English plz!!
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
I cant speak Bulgarian i speak little Yunanistani language ur native language. A sikter be kopuk
metodi78 3 years ago
You cannot speak bulgarian...??? Strange
But you can easily Speak Turkish...
You like turks eeeh ?
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
the hellenes shit of you and you pseudo MONKEYS hahahaha
PasGian 3 years ago
Gayreeks enjoy in this video!!! :)
metodi78 3 years ago
Thats's not true Kiro Gligorov was talking lies hehehehe dont belive in that
CrysisDS 3 years ago
Mr. Kiro Gligorov-
"...We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians..."
Alexander the Great - Speech at Olympic Games.
"...Men of Athens... Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you, but I'am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery..."
KingToads 3 years ago
Tito say that?
ok we believe you...
VARDASKA TO VARDASKIANS!
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
HAh so funny ,why don't you show us where was your "macedonia" in the Middle ages ?It was part of tha Bulgarian Kingdom from 8-th to 14-th century until the turks arive ,BUT THE PEOPLE THERE ARE 100% BULGARIANS AND THERE ARE 100000000000 PROVES ABOUT THAT . "MACEDONIAN" NATION DOESN'T EXIST ,AND HAD NEVER EXISTED
Evalanaturizma 3 years ago
When you make difference between old hellenic and greek from 1823,we make difference between ancient macedonia and Fuckedonia from 1945.
izkormvach 3 years ago
So what is the difference between Fuckedonia from 1945 and Gaylandia from 1830??????
Forget Old Hellenes they are not connected with you,turko-ethiopian scum.Go to Crete
metodi78 3 years ago
The letters on he coins are GREEK!
Not Macedonian! Why is that?
JimmyTheGreek2000 3 years ago
You mean Old Hellenic? Greek-Greece new idea from 1823
metodi78 3 years ago
and you are a new idea since 1945. Can't you understand that you're Slavs... Alexander spoke Ancient Greek, and we speak modern Greek a historical evolution of that language.
Latinus456 3 years ago
what's not clear this shows everything this is macedonia remember that gaygreek.this shows that you ocupated aegean part of macedonia
UNITED MACEDONIA
DARKOsk92 3 years ago
VARDAR+EGEJ+PIRIN=UNITED MACEDONIA
gaygreeks face the truth
DARKOsk92 3 years ago
Hungarians call themsekves Mayar Japanese call Japan Nippon Chinese call themselves Zhong Guo Rien Greeks call ourselves Hellenes.
Greeks/Yunanis/Romioi/Hellenes speak Greek for the last 4000 years. WE KNOW WHO WE ARE! The world knows who we are. In any encyclopaedia under Greeks you will read about our continous history. Tragically many of you don't know who you are, though reality shouts at you, you're still confused. You speak Slavic yet you think you are (of the ancient Greek) Macedonians.
eismakedon 3 years ago
On the imbecile argument about Greeks/Hellenes:
being the most ancient indoeuropean nation with a continous proven existence in the lower Balkan peninsula since 2000BC and a written language documented since the 1550's it is natural that we have had many names: Achaioi, Danaoi, Hellenes, Argitai, Graecoi, Romioi, Iones. The Eastern nations call us either Rum (Romioi) or Yunan/Yavan/Yauna/Yunani (Iones), while the West call us (Greci, Greques, Greeks, etc (Graecoi). Many names - same nation.
eismakedon 3 years ago
I mean the 1550s BEFORE Christ...I kno these numbers sound incredible to someone whose language has been formed by Tito's Grammarians in the earkly 1950's AFTER CHRIST...some 50 years ago...but this is something you have to deal with...and no matter how many idiotic theories some of you try to invent, you can not go around historic FACTS.
By the way, yes Greece became a modern nation state in the 1820s. It still makes us among the first independent European nations (before Italy or Germany)
eismakedon 3 years ago
death for GIPSY gayreece.
MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
vevcanec16 3 years ago
in your dreams...
mitsotribal 3 years ago
Methodie, can you please explain the gap that you left after you told us in your simplton's way nout ancient Macedonia, and then what? What about Roman conquest, Byzantium the descent of the Slavs, The Bulgarians the Serbs, the Ottomans...how do you think the ancient Macedonians and FYROM's people have anything in common, besides the fact that you ururped their name?
eismakedon 3 years ago 2
dik hed me again
greeks
there was nnothing known as greeks in ancient times only hellens
greece became a nation in 1827 in ancient days there was MACEDONIA epirus illyria thrace but no greece so ur not an ancient desendent of the ancient hellens ur a modern greek NOT hellene macedonia = desendent from ancient macedonain
so how do i know ur not a desendent of ancient hellens ohh yeee ur GREEK NOT HELLENE
mac3donianhotcunt101 3 years ago
Calling yourself a hotcunt and calling me a dikhed only betrays your distressed sexuality. We are too far for me to be of any help, sorry. On the intelectual level, if you want to learn, we can try to have a conversation, but you have to try to be intelectually stimulating and not insulting, as many Skopjans are very capable off (some Greeks unfortunately too, I apologize for them).
eismakedon 3 years ago
this video is made by an idiot, for idiots. hahahahaha
jempappas 3 years ago
I present in the video just problematic period of Macedonia,new history before 600 years is very clear,we have the documents from Istambul about that period when Ottomans was ruling in that region called Macedonia
metodi78 3 years ago
we real macedonians are only greeks and nothin else!!!our history is greek!!!king caranus was from peloponissus south greek!!!and alexader spread the hellenic culture!!!
NikiforosZias 3 years ago
Hehe today´s FYROMians have nothing with the old macedonia...the todays Fyromians are slavs.. ->and this is the point... i dont know where is the problem...But i really dont think that the old macedonians really call themselves greeks..It isnt so interesting for me but i know that the todays fyromians have nothing together....Greets from Croatia peace!
fico18 3 years ago
FYROMians are insane people, they dream of being greek...
dionyso33 3 years ago 2
ρε πούστη,πού τους βρίκαμε όλους αυτούς τους γείτονες,σκοπιανούς,αλβανούς,τούρκους,βούλγαρους,μας έχουν πρίξει τα'ρχίδια όλοι τους,αει γαμηθείτε..
dukeofkalamata 3 years ago 2
okay now i really dont care what youre thinking about your country and greece but...
why the fuck are you showing landscapes from greek islands? for all i know your country does not border with sea
monochromatic87 3 years ago
and by the way if your "Ancestors" spoke the greek language, and had greek culture how come you don't speak GREEK, ah?
CommanderGiorgos 3 years ago 2
They said FYROMIANS that Phillip the second and Alexander the Great took part in the Olympic games and won medals but, BUT the first Olympic games took part by Greek and ONLY GREEK!!! Explain that you piss of shit!!!
CommanderGiorgos 3 years ago 2
Dude you do not know ANYTHING FROM HISTORY. From now on i ignore you! Time will so that your people will lose.. and stop this propaganda! But as a friend of mine said... The mistake is ours...because when we had the chance...we did not took your heads for our soccer balls. Greeks EXISTED from ancient years... B.C. !!! Die man! :) Have a nice day....and those days are limited ! Greece ABOVE ALL ! You ARE IN MY IGNORE LIST!!! MACEDONIA IS GREEK
irmscherGR 3 years ago 2
metodi78 you said tha Alexander The Great want to participate to the olympics but the Greeks did not let him... i agry with that but learn THAT ALEXANDER AFTER PROVE TO GREEK THA HE WAS GREEK ! AND THEY LET HIM TO PARTICIPATE TO THE OLYMPIC ! your propaganda will not pass ... ANCIENT GREEK ARE WRIGHTEN TO PHILIPOS GRAVE! and another thing... don't you wonder ... why Alexander educated BY ARISTOTELIS?? WHY HIS NAME IS ALEXANDER AND NOT ALEXANDEREFKI???????? everyone is laughing with you...
irmscherGR 3 years ago
Listen do u believe that in that time Greeks existed? dont be silly
metodi78 3 years ago
so stupid video! xaxaxaxaxaxa. macedonia belongs only to greeks, to us hellenes!
at 1:11 time in the video its written obviously your real name: VARDAR
xaxxaxaxaxa u piece of shit fuckin thieves og greek culture and history
u vardashkians, xxaxaxaxaxaxa fyroV
mctolisCORFU 3 years ago
the Macedonian king Alexander I attempted to participate in the Olympic Games, and met with resistance by competitors, who regarded him as a non-Hellene. According to Herodotus
This is from Wikipedia for explanation,not from me.
metodi78 3 years ago
at wikipedia? Everyone can write in wikipedia! Please read Herodotus and then speak! Herodotus never wrote such a thing
PPPPANOS 3 years ago
ALEXANDER THE GREAT BORN IN PELLA WHICH IS IN GREECE! HE WORSHIPED GREEK GODS,HE SPOKE ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE!and you fucking slav gypsies say that wasnt greek!
The truth hurts, doesn't it FYRO'M'???
dakhellas 3 years ago
ALEXANDER THE GREAT BORN IN PELLA WHICH IS IN GREECE-since 1913,never before.
HE WORSHIPED GREEK GODS,HE SPOKE ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE!-I live in Strumica-old name Astarion(old greek name)so Am i Greek? Cosmos is Old Elin word,Is Cosmos(universe) greek?
and you fucking slav gypsies say that wasnt greek!-We are mixed with Slavs like all here and im fucking White,sorry
The truth hurts, doesn't it FYRO'M'??? Yes the truth hurts thats the reason why u wanna erase Macedonia,becouse its stolen land.
metodi78 3 years ago
this is some bullshit.there was never such a country.Bulgaria stated the Autonomy of Macedonia, not Greece sorry to tell you mixalis9292.Macedonia was a part of Bulgaria but the other countries from the European Union made the Bulgaria to sign a document for the independence of Macedonia.This is how this country was found.
azfenomena 3 years ago 2
"streanghthened its occupation of greece"? hello!? greek city-states were AUTONOMOUS? read some history before u post videos.
and i love the potery saying "macedonia" and "greece" that you present as evidence. I suppose the greeks of the time wrote it? Does it also say "turkey" on the right and "albania" to the north-west?
mixalis9292 3 years ago
bullsh*t
tapaci 3 years ago
mkdtards, no comment phatetic brain-washed ppl
tapaci 3 years ago
REPUBLIC OF GAYREECE also is not bad at all. Country and nation opened for all gays from the world.
pelagon777 3 years ago
You have to change your official name in HELLASSIAN REPUBLIC - nation with hot asses from hell. Athens can not be a capital any more. Choose Mykonos!
aristarh18 3 years ago
The name 'Greek' is in fact very ancient:
"...and she was not there forever, but after the cataclysm of Defkalion, which occurred in the Hellenic area, in fact, in the ancient Hellas, which was around Dodoni, and it changed many times the flow of Acheloos river. In that area live the Selloi and the ones that were once called GRAECOI and are now called HELLENES..."
[Aristotelis Meteorologika, I, 14]
BTW
The official name for Greece :
HELLENIC REPUBLIC !
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
lol ahahahahahahahaha
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
Ah Ah Ah -Is that means that somebody is fucking u hard in ur ass or something?
metodi78 3 years ago
No.. it means that this video was ignorant that it meant me laugh.
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
TO HIS HIGHNESS
BORIS the III, KING OF BULGARIANS
Sofia
PLEA FOR MERCY
from Lazar Panev Kolishev, prisoner at
the regional prison of Skopje, convicted to death penalty by the Bitola military field court in the lawsuit 133/941 according to the Law for Defense of the State
Retelas 3 years ago
Never in my life I've been thinking or acting criminally, whatsoever and especially towards the Bulgarian state, which we all -- slaves Bulgarians have been waiting with anxiety in our souls since long time: to liberate and reunite us within its mothers embrace.Ihm son of Bulgarian parents; I consider and feel myself Bulgarian, despite of the horrible slavery, I've preserved the Bulgarian way of life, language and temper.
Retelas 3 years ago
One more time I address my appeal to YOU, and YOUR PARENTAL HEART for YOUR ROYAL MERCY -- to replace my death penalty with other kind of punishment, persuading You that one day, when I'll comeback to the free life thanks to YOUR ROYAL MERCY -- I will succeed to embrace the dearest lesson in my life, to be worthy Bulgarian with my work and faithful subject of YOUR HIGHNESS and mother Bulgaria!
Retelas 3 years ago
I will succeed to embrace the dearest lesson in my life, to be worthy Bulgarian with my work and faithful subject of YOUR HIGHNESS and mother Bulgaria!
Skopje, 7th of December 1941
Truly faithful to YOUR HIGHNESS:
Signature
Prisoner at the regional prison Skopje
This man was later to change his name to Lazo Kolishevski and to become President of the Peoples Republic of Macedonia under the Yugoslav Federation.
Retelas 3 years ago
"...the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search of a past to help legitimize their precarious present as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a Slavic world dominated historically by Serbs and Bulgarians".
Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
where are the ... ancient makedonksy nation and language?
any facts?
?
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
"Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity".
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
in the past greece was always vs Macedonia we was always deferent nations!
Gluvich 3 years ago
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
lol @ theodosis3
multi-kara-lol leme!
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Its good to feel that you are NAPOLEON or ELVIS tooo....
But sooner or later u ll end in a MADHOUSE!!!
xaxaxa
So if u feel Makedonians something is wrong with you and you dont know it yet ....
theodosis3 3 years ago 2
Orestes (son of Agamemnon of Mycines) after killing his mother (Clytemnestra), was exiled in the northern Greece and created a city named Argos Orestikon!
Alexander (grand father of Alexandros the Great) in order to take part in Olympic Games he proved that he was Greek from Oreste's genealogical tree!
By The Way:
Only Greeks had the Honor to participate in Olympic Games.
ANY COMMENT?
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
are you saying that macedonians didnt had the right to play in olimpic games because they were not greek
unknown27p 3 years ago
328 Stadion Kliton Unknown
320 Stadion Damasias Amphipolis
304 Tethrippon Lampos Philippoi
292 Stadion Antigonos Unknown
288 Stadion Antigonos Unknown
268 Foals' Tethrippon Belestichos Unknown
268 Stadion Seleukos Unknown
264 Synoris Belestichos Unknown
129 Unknown Diephilos Aigai STRANGE THESE ENEMIES OF GREECE HAD GREEK NAMES!!!!!
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
Olympias (376--316BC) apparently was originally named Myrtale or Mistilis. Later she was named Olympias as recognition of Philip's victory in the Olympic Games of 356 BC.
She was mother of Alexander and the wife of Philip, she descent from the lineage of Aeacidae (a very well respected family of Greece since Achilles). She was daughter of Neoptolemus King of Epirus, descent from Neoptolemus son of Achilles, basis of Alexander's claims to be a new Achilles as a descendant of him!
ANY COMMENT?
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
I can't believe that. This is how they make clips like this. Steal Alexander from the greeks, zaidy zaidy from the bulgarian folklore.
FYROM shame on you
deimianlucifer 3 years ago
If Filippos & Alexandros were not Greeks & "had" a language other than Hellenic where is a coin, an inscription, an artifact, in that language? Everything found is written in Greek: ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ.
What the hell! He was the Mighty King Fillipos and his son the Emperor Alexandros. Why Macedons never wrote something in their ancestor's «language"?
Paranoid: Macedonians used -and Alexandros spread in his territories - the language of their enemies: The Greeks !
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago
I can't believe that. They steal history from you and from us.
I wished that our politicians were like yours.
BULGARIA FOREVER
deimianlucifer 3 years ago
I am sorry Scopjans...but you are Bulgarians!!!
plakil 3 years ago
People of FYROM speak a SLAV Language.
Ancient Macedonians Spoke GREEK Language.
Macedonia is ONE and it's GREEK.
It's so simple...
divxakias 3 years ago
Yes you are right.Macedonians was speaking your slav-bulgarian language and a great consiparacy from the evil greeks supported by scholars from all around the world denies this fact and insist that macedonias were just a greek tribe. :) Go and unite with bulgary before the albanians take over your state.
adavalas 3 years ago