History of the Mac OS; part 2

[mrbrockpeters]

NextStep was so important because Tim Berners-Lee created the worldwideweb on that machine as well as the Mosaic browser (the first browser ever) was created on the NextStep.

[stephthestar90]

how did running mac os and windows on the same mac work before intel macs and bootcamp/parallels desktop?

[maw88ify]

Where is BSD in this video, where is Solaris... I don't hear any thing about mkLinux , or BSD that Apple took ideas from.

[iAppleseedy]

What's the background music on 8:40 ?

[ChocosoftPC]

1:21 Lixux??

[steffenfrost]

Geez that music is annoying



[mspeter97]

ha Mac OS 7.5.5 with 10.5 background!

[themotorfreak1]

i see the logo HP between 6:25 and 6:40.

[deejsteriser]

A beautiful summary of one of the most fascinating periods in technology history that shaped more peoples' lives than we realise. Good job! Bring on Part 3 - the Jonathan Ive era.

[JustinLCK]

ALL MAC PRODUCT SUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXXX~ EXCEPT THE IPHONE AND IPAD :D

imagine this : Steve Jobs recomend Windows 7 Ultimate

LOL i LOVE X99999999999 MICROSOFT.

[dieselboi91]

windows went downhill as soon porn emerged into the internet. haha

[hectorae86]

Why the hell do i see a Amiga Boing ball running in an OS that is supposed to be NextStep, but is actually Amiga OS 3?

[AnomisGalaga]

@hectorae86 Yes, that's not a screenshot of NeXTstep, it's actually of the x86 version of OPENSTEP 4.2. If you look close enough, I'm sure you'll see the difference. It's not the first instances of this, Rhapsody came with breakout which had an Amiga "boing" ball option.

[hectorae86]

@AnomisGalaga O, didn't know that, thanks for the knowledge update :)

Still think Nextstep is a total Amiga rip off though, it was even made on the same hardware.

But you'll have to excuse me for this, i'm a Amiga fan :P

[l0c0r0c0411]

whats the 3 song that the video was?

[GamerMaster2041]

Wow and when i imagine that i didnt know wtf is apple till this year :P

Noone in my country didnt know what is apple computer not even what is MAC.

Everyone used windows 98 even in 2003,almost noone knew for XP,and noone knew for MAC.

And in early 1980 everyone just know about comodore 64 and one more computer but i forgot its name.

[MegaMrshawn]

what song is it at 0:13....its good.I can find really great songs here...

[ronteras]

@MegaMrshawn Its "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie.

[uport2]

@MegaMrshawn

Queen - Under pressure ;)

[hjklo222]

lol@ 01.31 microsoft kills the competition :P

[War3Hog101]

D.O.S is quite old i mean like wtf a spining disk ???

[satorianaide]

It's ironic that Apple joined with IBM later in the company's history with the PowerPC.

[GranitW]

@satorianaide

A lot of people called it ironic when Apple switched to Intel in 2006 as well. However, John Schulley, who started the transition project to PPC, later noted as saying that was the worst mistake he ever made and that he should of went with Intel. Intel was also Apple's very first investor, when they were still in a garage.

[satorianaide]

@GranitW Yeah - but in your opinion, which was the better choice: Motorola, PowerPC, or Intel - regardless of the technology?

[GranitW]

@satorianaide, prior to PPC, Apple was going to use a cheap put very powerful Motorola RISC cpu, the 88k. 88k was incompatible with 68k and was going to be the end of Macs (they'd use a new brand), they were so cheap some boxes had 4 processors in them. Intel's has always been behind in power and performance, but the popularity, market, and cost might have kept Apple up with Microsoft. PPC (the PC stands for Power Computing), was the most expensive but the most powerful of the 3.

[satorianaide]

@GranitW I recognize the ability of the PowerPC as well - since they were offering much lower frequencies than Intel, but still it was a match to Intel's higher frequency processors. If only PowerPC was energy efficient, they might have pushed through with it.

[GranitW]

@satorianaide The intel x86 Procs were great in a market where 99% of consumers believe hertz is performance. So for saturation purposes it was easy to sell them off and grow a strong share. If ever matched to the same or relative generation of a PPC however, even with much higher frequencies, they never stood a chance. PPC was expensive and hard to market though, that was the draw back

[pathammond]

@GranitW It all comes down to business, and intel are having a resurgence. Where 5 or 6 years ago AMD were the ones to beat, I think Intel are ahead right now. Plus compatibility wise it's a smart move. I have heard rumours that ARM proc's might be running in macs in coming years, but who knows? :p

[asupshik]

@GranitW Intel was not an investor to Apple. Mike Markkula was and he used to be at Intel until 1974 and already retired when invested into Apple.

[kookieless]

@satorianaide u just list the song name before the video ends

[BoogsterSU2]

WTF? That aurora background on the OS X Snow Leopard on Classic 7.0.1 at 0:17??????

[GranitW]

@BoogsterSU2

I just took the default leopard background image and used it for the desktop image of System 7, to kind of show off it's ability to display colors and more complex high resolution images than it's default array of 16x16 and 128x128 desktop backgrounds.

[HWGuyEG]

I wish Apple COMPUTERS went for BEOS, that OS was soo astoundingly good.

Also... ugh... why did Apple have to turn out like this.

[stomer169]

whats that last-last song?

[FixedHDD]

Whats the name of the song played at the very end? (that one with the violin)

Thanks for replys.

[MrAlexis1235]

Music is really loud and annoying

[jacksonutton]

inweeteen this theres a war like song i dont know hat sits name please tell md

[ultimatetoturial56]

apple and microsoft is the best than sony computer

[adamonthetube]

Apple never licensed its GUI to Microsoft. It allowed Microsoft to use Prototypes of the Mac OS for development purposes.

[GranitW]

@adamonthetube Yes Apple did license to MS the Mac OS GUI IP, for Windows 1.0. that's what Apple v. Microsoft was all about. Which is why Xerox counter sued Apple, because Xerox never allowed Apple to license out IP which originated from Xerox.

[bretsteinmetz]

@adamonthetube did you get your information from Pirates of Silicon Valley?

[adamonthetube]

@bretsteinmetz No, Why? Did you?

[MSVistasucks]

Acculy at 1:45. OS/2 is still produced today but by the name eComStation and it's developed by Serenity Systems insted of IBM.

[vroammm]

Macintosh Os is better than Microsoft Windows

[HummadJ]

@vroammm "used to be better" now mac has turned into some giant retarded os. computer enthusiasts are losing the power they used to have

[shooterboyz12]

@vroammm no microsoft is better than mac !!!

[chuninuzomaki]

@vroammm incorrect

[warior9101]

if thats how it liek all began and stuff, wen was it that computer hackers emerged?

[GranitW]

This isn't how the PC era began, this is just focused on the Mac brand. hacking came much earlier and popularized in the early 70s with such things as phreaking.

[astralseeker]

- I prefer mac interface but i can imagine that it is personal taste & other persons prefer window or vista though

- when you do basic operation like transfering data from phone or camera to a pc, the same operation is easier and faster on mac

- the only "bad" point of mac is that it is generally more expensive than pc, except for vaio that are as expensive as mac

[astralseeker]

I wonder what really makes anyone choose between mac or pc

as in my own experience over decades:

- I see better quality in video on mac than pc

- I see better audio quality in mac than pc

- I see better designs in mac than pc

- I see less "bugs" in mac os x than windows

- I see numerous viruses & uses of antiviruses on pc, when, on the other hand, I neger got any virus on a mac

[ironfalcon100]

Why does Microsoft OSes get viruses when Mac OSes don't?

It's the presence of a system registry, a critical vulnerability that MAC OSes do not have.

[kingplutoxiao1]

@astralseeker And what you said was complete bullshit.

[Mycatisbigfoot]

whats the song at 9:37?

[tullballknull]

lux aeterna

[TheShowThatSUX]

Not sure it matters at this point, just want to correct a factual error. The GUI that was used in the original MAC os was not actual licensed to Microsoft for use in Windows but for Microsoft to develop for MAC. Microsoft however desided to make what became Windows because the reality is Xerox was the actual greater of that type of GUI. What stated this whole can of worms was that Xerox did not realize what they had as the PC was not yet powerful enough..

[GranitW]

Actually Apple licensed part of it's GUI IP to Microsoft for Windows 1.0 due to a threat that MS would pull Office from the Mac (the same threat used later on). Type "Apple v. Microsoft" in google for the full court details.. Apple got angry at MS with the release of Windows 2.0.

[comneard2]

whats the song at 9.54 and btw good video

[Xevious22]

Its a remix of mozarts summer overture

[liu7]

its the main theme from the movie requiem for a dream

[Rockjaw3]

your skill is amazing, it seems macs did always have better for video editing, though i must just be bieng ignorent abut that

[antitab0]

Props for Polyphonic Spree, also.

[antitab0]

The Copland project began in 1994 and was never based on UNIX, it was entirely written by Apple as part of the MacOS family.

[GranitW]

LOL that is so true. I miss printed that and didn't realize it until I posted the vid. thanks for the feedback.

[irulethe70s]

i use system 1.0 in vmware

[stayelusive]

jesus, epic fucking ending for part 2

[TheOverkill86]

Thank U!

That was great. Verry, verry, verry excellent! Great Work.

Please a billions continuations!

[irulethe70s]

was that emulauted or hacked in 00:17

[GranitW]

It's all real shots of Mac System software 7.5. I just transfered over the Leopard default image and made it the desktop image.

Back then the Mac OS was a component based system, everything was modular, so you could call anything done on it a hack. Having multiple apps running was actually a hacked job called multi-finder, done by an Apple employee, it originally could only run one process at a time.

[oeliewoep]

Good video!

i like the block diagram #t1:30

What song are you using at the end? it's reminds me of a movie a think

[rtsvetcoff]

AWESOME!!!

Where is part 3?? Looking foward to see it!

Congratulations

[GranitW]

To be honest I wasn't sure if I would even do part 3 because of my schedule, but because of a lot of feedback from people I have finally gotten down to working on it. It's longer than I thought it would be, so there's probably going to be more than 3 parts. I just got the first 10 minutes of it done.

[MrGreen22009]

I have got one question:

Where is Part 3?! :)

[GranitW]

I have actually, finally got around to doing it. The first 10 minutes of it are done, now working on the next 10 minute segment.

[FutureiMacuser]

oh nvm.

[FutureiMacuser]

wait what? Mac OS 8 was released O.O

[neephius]

there was transparency before he deleted the fucking black background.

[zak9456]

where did you get the screen shot footage?

[GranitW]

A lot of the screen footage is my own, I have Mac System 1 - 9, Mac OS X Beta 1-4, Mac OS X 10.0 - 10.6, Rhapsody PPC / x86 DP 1 and 2, Yellow box for Windows, and Copland (never released, the real Mac OS 8). Other stuff I got from old shows like the computer chronicles.

[mirna22974]

What's the name of the song at the end?

[GranitW]

Summer Overture

[nebraskame]

Decent video, but good grief, you need to work on your spelling.

[xITzxTommyx]

heyy its charlie brown (good grief) lol jk

[Kashaku3]

please reply!!!

when do you think that you will get part 3 up!?

[darkejon]

Please please make part 3. Very excellent series!

[nerd0795]

When is part 3 coming?

Excellent job on the series.

[soviet9922]

Copland it's not unix based.

And was fully developed inside apple.

The kernel is nukernel, i have installed a pre alpha vercion on a 7200 and can confirm this first hand.

[GranitW]

Cool, It's rare to find other people that have Copland. I too, have both the alphas that were released to developers.

[soviet9922]

True theres no much people the alphas are pretty rare, and hard to run, after booting a couple of times you have to reinstall due to filesystem corruption, and they are dog slow.

You have tried yourself.

[GranitW]

I know, it's crazy! I had to use two computers to get it to run. One for the OS, the other as the debugger. It crashed more than Mac OS 9.0 does lol

[amirsoliman]

When is part III coming? This is excellent stuff.

[drivojulianrobotnik]

Very Good Video!

[Kishmakay]

Wow!! Even better than the first part! This video is extremely well done!

Please... WE NEED PART 3!

[babypoopface]

Quite a magnificent video with great production value and a good synopsis of the history of the industry. Keep it up!

[villevalle53]

Excellent work, indeed!

[zerojoy]

where is part 3???

[diaperzombie]

where's part3?? :-)

[davedotproductions]

where did you get all that archival and screen-shot footage?

[texasfreak2012]

can't wait for part 3

[applenewsnow]

sweet

[jon4lakers]

Awesome job. Wow.

[andreatunes]

So I'm not the only one who watches those videos!

[WindowsGuru84]

GREAT video

[Amotarzi]

You are definitely getting better! This one is more professional than the first part!!

[wilycat10]

Thank you so much for putting a lot of work in to these videos, it's really appreciated.

Roll on part three.

[GranitW]

thank you very much :)

I'm going to start part three once I get another PowerMac G3 so I can install the old Mac OS X Developer previews on to it.

[andreatunes]

Awesome video and soundtrack!

[GranitW]

thanks :)