the yardbirds didnt write the song either jake holmes did.page wrote the middle guitar riffs.whenever any of the yardbirds are interveiwed about this they do nothing but praise zep for what they did with it.theres no bad feelings like zep haters wanna make it seem.
the yardbirds were a good band and their version is good but this shows how great zeppelin was at taking a good song and making it into something better and different.that is jimmy page playing guitar.
Even at my age it is still possible to learn something new about the bands of my era. I never knew the Yardbirds did a version of this. Very cool! I like the contrast in the vocals with Zeppelins version.
sto guardando i clips dei yardbirds-j.page,ora,non so se mi sarebbero piaciuti allora ,nel '67 circa,in questo clip, j.page c'è, non vedo bene k. relf,prcy era molto selvaggio,è lui che manca.....
Percy è un bene non è di sesso maschile che non meritano alcun praise.led Zeppelin dovrebbe sostituire a lui con la pagaia pop leone che a mio parere è una migliore singer.ha ha ha ...
tank you for the tentative of italian language,but i don't understand your think,please repeat me your comment ( in english)...pagaia pop leone:what is it?ciao
do a google search on the paddle pop lion.lol. what shits me about zep is that they ripped off a lot of artists and never gave the original artists any credit. if there were no yarbirds there wouldn't be any zep. keith relf died as a relatively poor man.he would have had lots of cash if zoso gave him writing credits for tangerine and dazed.keith didn't write dazed but it was the yardbirds who reworked the song that zep eventually copied.
ok for the paddle pop lion,but i very don't understand you hate for the zep,the story is it:when also jeff is gone,jimmy work hard for the group is united,he believe in the group,he believed the success coming soon.but the others dont' believe it,
the group,he believed the success coming soon.but the others dont' believe it,keith relf says:the magic moment of yardbirds is end when eric is done.jimmy don't like this words.i think the zep was great(i see zep live in 1980),if zep copied ,bah,rolling copied and many others :nothing born of nothing ,if they don't payed the credits,bah i don't care(jimmy was calling portfolio jimmy),affari loro.comunque i'm sorry for keith and is end....ciao
all the songs they redid became so great because THEY did them.most of ther best stuff is the stuff they wrote themselves kasmir,no quarter,in the light,achilles last stand,rain song immigrant song ,the rover,going to cali ,and many more.zeppelin were idiots for not given credit to there sources in some cases but alot of it is also overblown.like em or not there still one of the top 3 rock bands ever.
Couldn't agree more. The original version by Jake Holmes is good, more flowery psych, but Zeppelin totally tore the shit out of the song, and it wasn't just down to Page, the drumming, Plants vocals..unbeatable.
no dick wad, i don't have wet dreams about men who look like goldilocks on steroids.led zeppelin is glorified prison wife music made for morons like you.yardbirds forever, led zeppelin never !!!!!!!!!!!
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It so obvious...you want him so badly!! You wish he was your prison wife. Nice rhyme at the end..did you make it up all by yourself or did your mummy help you?
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The "C" word...so unnecessary. Just admit to yourself that Percy's the love of your life and you'll feel better about yourself, less hostile, eye of a dream of Planty's big bulge..tut tut, naughty boy.
there allright but think plant and page just click and make it so much of a better song :) with bohamm as well and also page gets a way better sound out of a gibson and a marshall hahahah
I love Zeppelin, but they were notorious for not giving credit to the people who's song they covered. Willie Dixon's family successfully sued them for this.
This Yardbirds version is alot like the Jake Holmes version, personally, I dig all the versions of this cool tune.
man thats just the blues, and rock and roll for that matter, everybody rips off everybody, just how it works. does it make it right, i dunno but music especially blues and rock and roll has always been like that. case in point red hot chili peppers dani california bears a striking resemblence in chord progression as mary jane's last dance by tom petty and the heartbreakers. just take it with a grain of salt
I think Jim McCarty is on drums, Kieth Relf is the singer, but you're right, there are not alot of singers that compare with Robert Plant, killer voice, amazing range and great stage presents, the Yardbirds were really more of a great studio band.
Kieth Relf was also the singer for "Armageddon" in the early seventies with Bobby Caldwell on Drums, check them out if you like Heavy Classic Rock, Caldwell was also the drummer for "Captain Beyond".
I'm not a big fan of Plant but I have to admit that his voice worked way better on this song. Nonetheless it's an interesting version, especially as you see how page had worked out most of thye elements of his brilliant guitar work on the LZ version. Thanks to JimMc for posting this. I never knew this existed.
Page should have been inducted into the RR hall of fame just for the licks at 4:00. Man, he had such awesome ideas for music. My hats off to him, he is a musical genius.
vocals here suck! and if anyone listens to the Band of Joy (Plant before LZ) you will realize how awesome Plant could be without Page.... not that Page is not great....I am just trying to make the point how great Plant is...
ok guys the version is great and all the drumming jimmy was as awesome as he was in led zeppelin but you can`t deny that Ropert Plant was born for this song he took it to new levels he just had the pipes for it while Mike didn`t at all
PT 9: Former Lead Singer of The Yardbirds (seen here in this video) Keith Relf, died May 14, 1976. Relf was only 33 when he died from an electric shock received while playing his electric guitar, which was not properly grounded (earthed). LEGEND HAS IT: he was in his basement, in a bathtub, while playing the electric guitar. Also some of Jimmy Page's Zep material (WHITE SUMMER, BLACK MOUNTAIN SIDE, TANGERINE...) dated from the Yardbirds era...some are on some Yardbirds recordings...
PART 8: (book) at the time, when Jake Holmes heard it, he thought "What the hell, let him have it" (according to the book) One part of the studio version of the song is a segment taken from an old YARDBIRDS song "Think About It" (Self -Plagerism?) both segments sound similar. Later "D&C" was stretched to 30 minutes, with a lot of violin bow guitar solo's. Later Years: Yardbirds lead singer Keith Relf founded 1970's band "Renaissance"... AND THE LAST PART...
PART 7: after a while, the band changed the name to LED ZEPPELIN (from a joke overheard being said by Keith Moon of the WHO) it had been said the name change was done by a lawsuit by a former member of the YArdbirds to stop using it. At some point they went into the studio, cut the first album, and finally Jimmy Page got his "Dazed & Confused" just the way he envisioned it. The song was CREDITED to Jimmy Page only, no mention of Jake Holmes...
PART SIX: Page wanted someone sounded like "Rod Stewart", in a way. Page got the information, went to see/audition Robert Plant, saw the current band he was in, & found the perfect lead singer. In talking to Jimmy PAge, Robert Plant was the one who sugested John Bonham as a drummer!!! it took some coaxing, but finally John Bonham joined. So they put together and act, and went to Scandinavia as "New Yardbirds" to fufill some contracts, and the road test was getting the band jelling & such...
PART FIVE: some accounts state Page didnt own the "yardbirds' name; Page was looking into others to form a "New Yardbirds", choice JOHN PAUL JONES (real name John Baldwin) a multi-talented insterment player (Bass, Keyboards), JPJ signed on right away. Page's other idea was to get a singer who can hit high notes and emote with lead guitar lines. Choices he had (mostly obscure) were 'busy', but one of Page's choices sugested some guy named Robert Plant, who Page never heard of...
PART FOUR: confusion, either Jimmy PAge wound up owning the name "YARDBIRDS", but another band member NOW claims it is not true. (not enough space). Amongst disention in the ranks, Yardbirds broke up, and other band members felt it was an embarasment in the last days (Page had a good time) so with Jimmy Page (& Peter Grant) & the YARDBIRDS name (plus some unfufilled contracts) Page started finding a line up for the "New Yardbirds" but Page had his own different ideas, not a copy...
PART THREE: WHen Page was in the Yardbirds, he brought his guitar tone & his ideas, the band members were kinda growing apart. It was at this time when "DAzed & Confused" was discovered, & Page stole it. They called there version "IM CONFUSED" and it even appears on the semi rare "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" (taken off the market when Led Zep first started out by Page lawyers...) but here is where it gets confusing: You should hear some Yardbirds work....other stuff...
A liitle "misinformation" mate. The YB never called D&C "I 'm Confused". This confusion comes from Epic records mislabelling the song as such on the 1971 album "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" you make mention. Proof? Easy, the Anderson Theater performance was recorded March
30th, 1968. This performances in France was recorded 9th March 68. How does the French guy introduces the song as? D&C. This is almost 3wks before the Anderson Theater performances.
TEMPmichaelhansen - I also have a number of other 1968 live performances by the Yardbirds, 25th April, 68 Allen Theater, Cleveland, Ohio, 31st May, 1June, 68 Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, California. In all these cases Keith introduces the song as D&C.
This wasn't the first mistake by Epic records. If you look at the albums "Rave- Up" or "Over Under.." They spelled Chris's name "C. Drega" instead of Dreja and Jim's name "J.McCarthy" instead of McCarty ( I can relate to that one = ).
TEMPmichaelhansen- Its ok mate, not blaming you. It's the same old mistake that most authors make when writing books concerning Zep or JP history since 1971 "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" came out. Most authors don't search for themselves but copy what other have written before them. If you read or hear history by the original YB
Just like Dreja and JP "both" held rights to the name YB. I think it would make perfect sense for Chris to hold "more" rights since Chris was an original member; Page wasn't.
In an interview with Dreja, he states he ( along with his lawyer ) made JP change the name, because Chris didn't want him to use the YB name.
FOR EVERYBODY (including you) LOOK UP "YARDBIRDS" on WIKIPEDIA. Also I remember this on the market in the mid 80's:
Afternoon Tea -- Rhino RNDF-253, 1982
Interview picture disk with Chris Dreja & Jim McCarty. Side 1 picture features the Beck/Page lineup, side 2 picture features the Beck lineup with Samwell-Smith. IT IS OUT OF PRINT...
PART TWO: For a brief time, Jimmy PAge & Jeff Beck were in the YARDBIRDS, dual/harmony lead guitars (FEATURED IN A SCENE IN THE FILM "BLOW UP" AVALIABLE ON NETFLIX Starring Vanessa Redgrave in 1966) NEw bass player, Jimmy Page became the new lead guitar player (for years before he was a session man) by this time, YARDBIRDS were on there last legs (kinda factor: lead singer Keith Relf got drunk before gigs, made a jerk of himself, the band would play instermental jams...)
THE YARDBIRDS were originally a band that used guitar solos as trademark, instead of front man. Basically an improvisational blues band w/ extended guitar solos, Eric Clapton was lead guitar player. Then when it came time to record the 'pop' song "For your love", Eric Clapton Quit. Replaced by Jeff Beck (sugested by Jimmy Page, wgo was asked but declined) Jeff Beck was the new guitar player, but his attitude and other factors got him in 'trouble', but briefly Jimmy Page joined on bass...
Is this the Jimmy Page Experience? No wonder the other guys left after this performance, they play like a backup band (although I like the bass) and Page was simply outta their league; you can practically see the singer wondering to himself "WTF am I doing on the same stage as this guy?" Great post of an emerging musical giant.
The Yardbirds singer and drummer left the band not too long after this performance. A terrible decision career-wise. Jimmy Page and manager Peter Grant were the only ones left when bassist Chris Dreja left to pursue a career on photography. Page recruited Robert Plant, John Bonham and a guy who had played on a few Yardbirds recordings, John Paul Jones to become the New Yardbirds. They soon changed their name to Led Zeppelin by the end of 1968. Pity those who left this successful band.
Originally, Page approach pete townsend and keith moon about forming a band. Pete replied that it would go over like a lead zeppelin. Who would have figured that al of the guitarists and bands we love were centered around this one band the Yardbirds.
I actually think the zeppelin cover is better. The yardbirds one kinda sounds like keith is receiting poetry. It's really the singing for me on this one. Robert plant has alot more emotion. But thats only this song. The yardbirds still kick ass.
The Yardbirds were one of the greatest and most influential bands in the history of recorded music, end of story. This footage is a fascinating piece of musical history and altho it may not be the greatest version of Dazed and Confused ever recorded it gets my +10 rating for even existing much less surviving. I have two copies of the vinyl record "Live Yardbirds! featuring Jimmy Page," one on Epic and the re-release on Columbia, and I place it on my list of greatest live records ever recorded.
I'll be honest. I really love Led Zeppelin, and I like the Yardbirds also. However, I think that the Led Zeppelin version (all of them) are better than this one. The Led Zeppelin version has more feel to it (in my opinion), and the Yardbirds are lacking it on this recording of it.
This is an amazing piece of footage - talk about wastching (listening), retrospectively of course, to rock musice evolution...Page, you legend - he dragged this influence into Zep and nearly every other rock band to emerge in the late 60's / 70's and beyond - listen to the riff just after the 'act like a cat' lyric, Paranoid lick by Black Sabath pays direct homage to that riff! Thanks for posting....
Hey Carbiduis, No need to go into cardiac arrest.You should've used more K-Y jelly on your zoso butt plug.Go to hell you dopey bean bag casualty.You disgust me !!! Yardbirds forever Led Zep never.
Lethargic????! Watched the vid several times, can't see it!... But then again, I'm sure you're a very good drummer yourself, so you must know what you're talking about! :-P
Given the fact that the image quality isn't great, I'm impressed that you can notice such details!... Listen to the sound!... IMO, the drumming is pretty sharp and incisive!
Indeed. Jim McCarty is one of the finest drummers ever, Bonham's drumming is dull in my opinion compared to McCarty's work. The Yardbirds were way better than Led Zeppelin imo.
i would agree that McCarty was an exceptional drummer - i do like Bonham as well. would not compare them myself, they just had diff. styles. Bonham had the advantage of better studio environments, etc. and of course, the zeppelin formula would not have ever come into being if relf, mccarty, dreja, et al did not lay it out 1st. one advantage this version has is relf giving it some harp energy, plant never took the harp to this number (i prefer the version on "live yardbirds featuring jimmy page")
I actually think it's a very good interpretation of the song, but like the Zep, it's just one of many interpretations! And Keith Relf sure didn't give up playing the harp because he wasn't capable as he was a really great harp player!! True sometimes he had breathing problems because of his asthma, but go to the I'm a man song on German T and you will see.
Oh I loved that one! Then someone took it off for some reason. Do you know who had it, and if it will be put on again? The other songs on that performance in Germany are still there, but that one (I'm A man) is gone! Strange..
Jimmy McCarty's drumming in this one had a spine-tingling, seductive quality to this song! It's haunting! Keith's vocals are haunting too. The different players were so innovative in this song and others. It's almost as if they seized the baton from Jake Holmes, then ran with it, then passed it to Led Zeppelin!
I'm surprised that some of the heavy metal bands later on didn't pick this song up! Bands like Metallica or Motley Crue or some of them! I'd wonder what they would have done with it?
The Yardies arent that good..lets face it. Al very good musicians but they didnt gel.. Too many cooks spoil the broth... This song sounds like shit ... no?
The vocals fall short.. and he even gives up playing the Harmonica cause he's having trouble bending the notes.. Page has is amp setting on ''dont steal the limelight Jimmy!'' And this song is all about vocals and heavy guitar. Blues without feeling fails to captivate.. Roger plant and Zep' do it ten times better imo
sorry we don't all have this vast knoweledge of music as you clearly do. zepelin is an incredibly overrated band and don't get pissy with me, your the one who brought zeppelin up for a non zeppelin video. i'm tired of people saying "Theyr enot as good as zeppelin" which is the jist of what you said, who fucking cares this isn't Led Zeppelin, incase you didn't notice it says "Yardbirds" at the top, stop bitching.
I thought this was Zep with a substitute singer! Keith is cool in other things, but he's singing an octave lower than Plant! Great guitar! The way he strikes it...
Wow its almost like Jimmy Page's Solo's dont work in this context, another reason I pefer Led Zeppelin, this is a great band and they started some amazing ideas, but they never went as far as Zeppelin did with it
Well... not really, Jimmy Page created Led Zeppelin, not the other members of Yardbirds... Led Zeppelin (Jimmy Page) took the undeveloped infant ideas of the Yardbirds and did something amazing with it, Led Zeppelin is not pop commercial its musical evolution, some bands like Yardbirds stop growing at a certain point, Led Zeppelin carried onward to new musical textures and journeys that the Yardbirds could never touch
Zeppelin was over commercialized? What a nitpicky thing to say, just cause the yardbirds never got as to close to famous as Zeppelin at all doesnt make Zeppelin a bad band. Just because the yardbirds patheticly crashed and died and no one cared doesnt mean you have to take it out on led zeppelin...
They didn't crashed (as you say)... Two of them pulled the plug intentionally and the reason why their new audiences weren't always digging them was precisely because they wanted to hear the Yardbirds "sound" instead!...
Look at the drummers facial expression at 2:40. It's like he is thinking - wtf kind of music are they playing? This was new and very different from anything at the time.
They had been playing strange music for quite a while....his expression was just an anomaly. In fact he had taken Jake Holmes song and set up the arrangement for the rest of the band to work on.
The very best Yardbird's version of this is from Shrine Aud just before the breakup. Led Zep never did it that well. I always miss Keith's harmonica and three part Om'ing when I hear the Led Zep later versions, studio and live. Keith was the real influence with the meditative, cosmic sounds.
Keith Relf conveyed such an aura and magic to the group that without him it would have not been the same at all, besides the great harp player he was!!
True the Ybirds were way ahead of time, but many of their recordings weren't supported by fine instruments in the studios. Keith was able to sing from blues to pop and folk. I invite you to hear the CD's he recorded after the Ybirds when he founded the group Renaissance, with a folk sound, then Armageddon with a heavy,psichodelic sound; he sings great on all of these. Actually Page asked Keith to remain in the Yardbirds but Relf wanted to do something different so HE left with McCarty.
I don't think you can compare the Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin. They were great in different ways. If the Yardbirds had the sound system Led Zeppelin did, I'm sure the sound would be just as good. Also, the recording methods were just 8 track crap in 1968, so you really aren't hearing the full range of the Yardbirds. I say they were way ahead of their time in 1968. Way ahead.
the yardbirds didnt write the song either jake holmes did.page wrote the middle guitar riffs.whenever any of the yardbirds are interveiwed about this they do nothing but praise zep for what they did with it.theres no bad feelings like zep haters wanna make it seem.
714hr 2 years ago
the yardbirds were a good band and their version is good but this shows how great zeppelin was at taking a good song and making it into something better and different.that is jimmy page playing guitar.
714hr 2 years ago
Even at my age it is still possible to learn something new about the bands of my era. I never knew the Yardbirds did a version of this. Very cool! I like the contrast in the vocals with Zeppelins version.
ronbass 2 years ago
Marvelous!!5/5!
SpaceGuitar69 2 years ago 7
wow these guys totally rock more then zepplin
Grungedude93 2 years ago 6
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ariman50 2 years ago
sto guardando i clips dei yardbirds-j.page,ora,non so se mi sarebbero piaciuti allora ,nel '67 circa,in questo clip, j.page c'è, non vedo bene k. relf,prcy era molto selvaggio,è lui che manca.....
stratosoldano 2 years ago
Percy è un bene non è di sesso maschile che non meritano alcun praise.led Zeppelin dovrebbe sostituire a lui con la pagaia pop leone che a mio parere è una migliore singer.ha ha ha ...
EyeOfADream 2 years ago 2
tank you for the tentative of italian language,but i don't understand your think,please repeat me your comment ( in english)...pagaia pop leone:what is it?ciao
stratosoldano 2 years ago
do a google search on the paddle pop lion.lol. what shits me about zep is that they ripped off a lot of artists and never gave the original artists any credit. if there were no yarbirds there wouldn't be any zep. keith relf died as a relatively poor man.he would have had lots of cash if zoso gave him writing credits for tangerine and dazed.keith didn't write dazed but it was the yardbirds who reworked the song that zep eventually copied.
EyeOfADream 2 years ago
ok for the paddle pop lion,but i very don't understand you hate for the zep,the story is it:when also jeff is gone,jimmy work hard for the group is united,he believe in the group,he believed the success coming soon.but the others dont' believe it,
stratosoldano 2 years ago
the group,he believed the success coming soon.but the others dont' believe it,keith relf says:the magic moment of yardbirds is end when eric is done.jimmy don't like this words.i think the zep was great(i see zep live in 1980),if zep copied ,bah,rolling copied and many others :nothing born of nothing ,if they don't payed the credits,bah i don't care(jimmy was calling portfolio jimmy),affari loro.comunque i'm sorry for keith and is end....ciao
stratosoldano 2 years ago
all the songs they redid became so great because THEY did them.most of ther best stuff is the stuff they wrote themselves kasmir,no quarter,in the light,achilles last stand,rain song immigrant song ,the rover,going to cali ,and many more.zeppelin were idiots for not given credit to there sources in some cases but alot of it is also overblown.like em or not there still one of the top 3 rock bands ever.
714hr 2 years ago
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go on...don't keep us in suspense, who else is in this top 3?
cottageorgan 2 years ago
Wonder if the yardbirds credited the actual writer, Jake Holmes, or if Page was already ripping him off at this early stage.
gfink2 2 years ago
page never ripped holmes off, he just took the song to a whole different level and made it an absolute hit
acousticroots13 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more. The original version by Jake Holmes is good, more flowery psych, but Zeppelin totally tore the shit out of the song, and it wasn't just down to Page, the drumming, Plants vocals..unbeatable.
cottageorgan 2 years ago
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Robert Plant's lyrics are way better. "feel like a mouse and you act like a cat" vs. "Soul of a women was created below!"
igotwho 2 years ago
did you mean percy looks like a woman and screeches like a pillow biter.
EyeOfADream 2 years ago 5
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you wish he was a woman...Percy's your wet dream!!!
cottageorgan 2 years ago
no dick wad, i don't have wet dreams about men who look like goldilocks on steroids.led zeppelin is glorified prison wife music made for morons like you.yardbirds forever, led zeppelin never !!!!!!!!!!!
EyeOfADream 2 years ago
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It so obvious...you want him so badly!! You wish he was your prison wife. Nice rhyme at the end..did you make it up all by yourself or did your mummy help you?
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EyeOfADream 2 years ago 2
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The "C" word...so unnecessary. Just admit to yourself that Percy's the love of your life and you'll feel better about yourself, less hostile, eye of a dream of Planty's big bulge..tut tut, naughty boy.
cottageorgan 2 years ago
it's obvious you want him for yourself you kiwi bastard.
EyeOfADream 2 years ago 4
i'm there with you, bro... Yardbirds forever...!!!!
randomspawner 2 years ago 4
Plant didn't write any lyrics on the first album.
lalalamort 2 years ago
there allright but think plant and page just click and make it so much of a better song :) with bohamm as well and also page gets a way better sound out of a gibson and a marshall hahahah
superbaggy 2 years ago
page still used his tele for dazed and confused
LeadfootFlat 2 years ago
Copy and Paist:
"Armageddon (Buzzard)"
"Captain Beyond Live 1972 Part One"
FeatureLengthFilms 2 years ago
You barely see Jimmy's face in this.
I can never get over that dark, fascinating aura of his.
Even in a generation that promoted peace and love.
:D
mombrokemyradio 2 years ago
Ever heard the original version?
watch on YouTube:
"Jake Holmes - Dazed and Confused"
I love Zeppelin, but they were notorious for not giving credit to the people who's song they covered. Willie Dixon's family successfully sued them for this.
This Yardbirds version is alot like the Jake Holmes version, personally, I dig all the versions of this cool tune.
FeatureLengthFilms 2 years ago
I didn't know that, cheers.
65DDTG 2 years ago
man thats just the blues, and rock and roll for that matter, everybody rips off everybody, just how it works. does it make it right, i dunno but music especially blues and rock and roll has always been like that. case in point red hot chili peppers dani california bears a striking resemblence in chord progression as mary jane's last dance by tom petty and the heartbreakers. just take it with a grain of salt
LeadfootFlat 2 years ago
I had no idea the yard birds did this first!! still pages song though
bishopquack 2 years ago
Plant's a better frontman and has better stage presence Than McCarty
CallMeTheHunter 2 years ago
took the words right out of my mouth!!
atilano66 2 years ago
... in the same vein as Bonham was probably a more powerful drummer than Relf, I reckon... :-P
snusmumriken3 2 years ago 2
shit i meant keith relf not mccarty sorry brainfart
CallMeTheHunter 2 years ago
CallMeTheHunter
With all due respect, sir
I think Jim McCarty is on drums, Kieth Relf is the singer, but you're right, there are not alot of singers that compare with Robert Plant, killer voice, amazing range and great stage presents, the Yardbirds were really more of a great studio band.
Kieth Relf was also the singer for "Armageddon" in the early seventies with Bobby Caldwell on Drums, check them out if you like Heavy Classic Rock, Caldwell was also the drummer for "Captain Beyond".
FeatureLengthFilms 2 years ago
who is that french corn ball who sits up there for all these videos?
animalmother4 2 years ago
you could tell Page took over the band....hahaha, the yardbirds were history when Plant joined..although the drummer does sound pretty good here ...
karbyk62 2 years ago
cool
lovedungeon 2 years ago
For those that say it sucks, think about it this way, if Jimmy thought it sucked he would not have played it a second time.
foote500 2 years ago 3
This song is very clean and polished compaired to Zeppelin's version, but both are great :)
pclvmuzic 2 years ago 2
thank god for jimmy page
cdichiar 2 years ago 4
amen!
greasergrls4eva 2 years ago
robert plant best singer ever! this guy sucks
QueenHg39 2 years ago
It's not about the voice, it's about the man. Just look at Bob Dylan.
Robert Plant is annoying anyway.
Hadynd 2 years ago
I'm not a big fan of Plant but I have to admit that his voice worked way better on this song. Nonetheless it's an interesting version, especially as you see how page had worked out most of thye elements of his brilliant guitar work on the LZ version. Thanks to JimMc for posting this. I never knew this existed.
Ivor662 2 years ago
Whatever, sunshine. Robert Plant is THE MOST influential vocalist in rock history. Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it....
NastyNole1 2 years ago
fuck yeah
CallMeTheHunter 2 years ago
This bow ides was nicked from Eddie Phillips of The Creation, one of the finest bands who never made it in this country.
xz4q18 2 years ago
Page should have been inducted into the RR hall of fame just for the licks at 4:00. Man, he had such awesome ideas for music. My hats off to him, he is a musical genius.
jvmalum 2 years ago 3
vocals here suck! and if anyone listens to the Band of Joy (Plant before LZ) you will realize how awesome Plant could be without Page.... not that Page is not great....I am just trying to make the point how great Plant is...
yearofthecat2008 2 years ago
ok guys the version is great and all the drumming jimmy was as awesome as he was in led zeppelin but you can`t deny that Ropert Plant was born for this song he took it to new levels he just had the pipes for it while Mike didn`t at all
nashorlandonosh 2 years ago
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
guitarlawyer75 3 years ago
I agree. ig this was a contemporary song, it would be flying off the charts. Funny, it's refreshing yet the song is from 1968. Thank you You Tube.
Onlydreamin1959 2 years ago
It's really weird being used to the LZ versios of this then listening to this.
But yeah way cool song...I love the Yardbirds so much, this was the first song I heard =]
musicismypassion23 3 years ago
This was the first clip I saw about them... and as a result I fell for Jim McCarty! %-)
snusmumriken3 2 years ago
PT 9: Former Lead Singer of The Yardbirds (seen here in this video) Keith Relf, died May 14, 1976. Relf was only 33 when he died from an electric shock received while playing his electric guitar, which was not properly grounded (earthed). LEGEND HAS IT: he was in his basement, in a bathtub, while playing the electric guitar. Also some of Jimmy Page's Zep material (WHITE SUMMER, BLACK MOUNTAIN SIDE, TANGERINE...) dated from the Yardbirds era...some are on some Yardbirds recordings...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART 8: (book) at the time, when Jake Holmes heard it, he thought "What the hell, let him have it" (according to the book) One part of the studio version of the song is a segment taken from an old YARDBIRDS song "Think About It" (Self -Plagerism?) both segments sound similar. Later "D&C" was stretched to 30 minutes, with a lot of violin bow guitar solo's. Later Years: Yardbirds lead singer Keith Relf founded 1970's band "Renaissance"... AND THE LAST PART...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART 7: after a while, the band changed the name to LED ZEPPELIN (from a joke overheard being said by Keith Moon of the WHO) it had been said the name change was done by a lawsuit by a former member of the YArdbirds to stop using it. At some point they went into the studio, cut the first album, and finally Jimmy Page got his "Dazed & Confused" just the way he envisioned it. The song was CREDITED to Jimmy Page only, no mention of Jake Holmes...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART SIX: Page wanted someone sounded like "Rod Stewart", in a way. Page got the information, went to see/audition Robert Plant, saw the current band he was in, & found the perfect lead singer. In talking to Jimmy PAge, Robert Plant was the one who sugested John Bonham as a drummer!!! it took some coaxing, but finally John Bonham joined. So they put together and act, and went to Scandinavia as "New Yardbirds" to fufill some contracts, and the road test was getting the band jelling & such...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART FIVE: some accounts state Page didnt own the "yardbirds' name; Page was looking into others to form a "New Yardbirds", choice JOHN PAUL JONES (real name John Baldwin) a multi-talented insterment player (Bass, Keyboards), JPJ signed on right away. Page's other idea was to get a singer who can hit high notes and emote with lead guitar lines. Choices he had (mostly obscure) were 'busy', but one of Page's choices sugested some guy named Robert Plant, who Page never heard of...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART FOUR: confusion, either Jimmy PAge wound up owning the name "YARDBIRDS", but another band member NOW claims it is not true. (not enough space). Amongst disention in the ranks, Yardbirds broke up, and other band members felt it was an embarasment in the last days (Page had a good time) so with Jimmy Page (& Peter Grant) & the YARDBIRDS name (plus some unfufilled contracts) Page started finding a line up for the "New Yardbirds" but Page had his own different ideas, not a copy...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART THREE: WHen Page was in the Yardbirds, he brought his guitar tone & his ideas, the band members were kinda growing apart. It was at this time when "DAzed & Confused" was discovered, & Page stole it. They called there version "IM CONFUSED" and it even appears on the semi rare "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" (taken off the market when Led Zep first started out by Page lawyers...) but here is where it gets confusing: You should hear some Yardbirds work....other stuff...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
A liitle "misinformation" mate. The YB never called D&C "I 'm Confused". This confusion comes from Epic records mislabelling the song as such on the 1971 album "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" you make mention. Proof? Easy, the Anderson Theater performance was recorded March
30th, 1968. This performances in France was recorded 9th March 68. How does the French guy introduces the song as? D&C. This is almost 3wks before the Anderson Theater performances.
Yardbird68 3 years ago
TEMPmichaelhansen - I also have a number of other 1968 live performances by the Yardbirds, 25th April, 68 Allen Theater, Cleveland, Ohio, 31st May, 1June, 68 Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, California. In all these cases Keith introduces the song as D&C.
This wasn't the first mistake by Epic records. If you look at the albums "Rave- Up" or "Over Under.." They spelled Chris's name "C. Drega" instead of Dreja and Jim's name "J.McCarthy" instead of McCarty ( I can relate to that one = ).
Yardbird68 3 years ago
The worst misspelling I've seen was "Mike Carty"!
;-)
JimMcCartyandCo 3 years ago
Yea, if I was Jim, I'd be very mad about that one!! = ) It doesn't make "this" McCarty" too happy either!! = D
Yardbird68 3 years ago
Well, I am just going by what the book "Hammer Of The Gods" said. I understand.
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
TEMPmichaelhansen- Its ok mate, not blaming you. It's the same old mistake that most authors make when writing books concerning Zep or JP history since 1971 "LIVE YARDBIRDS FEATURING JIMMY PAGE" came out. Most authors don't search for themselves but copy what other have written before them. If you read or hear history by the original YB
you get the correct story.
Yardbird68 3 years ago
Just like Dreja and JP "both" held rights to the name YB. I think it would make perfect sense for Chris to hold "more" rights since Chris was an original member; Page wasn't.
In an interview with Dreja, he states he ( along with his lawyer ) made JP change the name, because Chris didn't want him to use the YB name.
Yardbird68 3 years ago
not sure of that:
HAMMER OF THE GODS claims they just went from New Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin after the scandinavian shows were done (in 2 weeks...)
but
A WEBPAGE (somewhere) claims one of the yardbirds claimed "Jimmy Never owned the name....I dont know where that came from..."
And also a recent magazine article stated that Chris Dreja sent a CEASE AND DESIST order for them to stop using the name "New Yardbirds"
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
Fine, let him have the Yardbirds name. Jimmy has has the rights to a name FAR MORE VALUABLE-----it's called LED ZEPPELIN.......
Touche...
NastyNole1 2 years ago
Never heard of them.
Douche......
Yardbird68 2 years ago
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everybodyelsedoesit 3 years ago
FOR EVERYBODY (including you) LOOK UP "YARDBIRDS" on WIKIPEDIA. Also I remember this on the market in the mid 80's:
Afternoon Tea -- Rhino RNDF-253, 1982
Interview picture disk with Chris Dreja & Jim McCarty. Side 1 picture features the Beck/Page lineup, side 2 picture features the Beck lineup with Samwell-Smith. IT IS OUT OF PRINT...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
PART TWO: For a brief time, Jimmy PAge & Jeff Beck were in the YARDBIRDS, dual/harmony lead guitars (FEATURED IN A SCENE IN THE FILM "BLOW UP" AVALIABLE ON NETFLIX Starring Vanessa Redgrave in 1966) NEw bass player, Jimmy Page became the new lead guitar player (for years before he was a session man) by this time, YARDBIRDS were on there last legs (kinda factor: lead singer Keith Relf got drunk before gigs, made a jerk of himself, the band would play instermental jams...)
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
THE YARDBIRDS were originally a band that used guitar solos as trademark, instead of front man. Basically an improvisational blues band w/ extended guitar solos, Eric Clapton was lead guitar player. Then when it came time to record the 'pop' song "For your love", Eric Clapton Quit. Replaced by Jeff Beck (sugested by Jimmy Page, wgo was asked but declined) Jeff Beck was the new guitar player, but his attitude and other factors got him in 'trouble', but briefly Jimmy Page joined on bass...
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
This has gotta be the crapiest singer ever.
Frip88 3 years ago
he is also dead.
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
Thank God
Frip88 3 years ago
Look at the page again, I tried to explaine everything the best I could.
TEMPmichaelhansen 3 years ago
I always thought the title was:"I'm Confused" and then became "Dazed and Confused" when Led Zeppelin was born.
alonenjersey 3 years ago
This is great to see this
TrueEnglishKing 3 years ago
3:05 lol, i didnt know that it was possible
brunonwRj 3 years ago
Is this the Jimmy Page Experience? No wonder the other guys left after this performance, they play like a backup band (although I like the bass) and Page was simply outta their league; you can practically see the singer wondering to himself "WTF am I doing on the same stage as this guy?" Great post of an emerging musical giant.
hungrypuma2008 3 years ago
there drummers pretty lame too lol
RoomOfMusic 3 years ago
Yes...Led Zeppelin sure does a better job. But this is still amazing..more mellow that's why. great video man.
xojbabyxo 3 years ago
Oh please don't ever take it down...
I send these to young aspiring rockers and they in turn go out and buy music...
1962beachboy 3 years ago
how did the yardbirds change into led zeppelin?
jayfey77 3 years ago
The Yardbirds singer and drummer left the band not too long after this performance. A terrible decision career-wise. Jimmy Page and manager Peter Grant were the only ones left when bassist Chris Dreja left to pursue a career on photography. Page recruited Robert Plant, John Bonham and a guy who had played on a few Yardbirds recordings, John Paul Jones to become the New Yardbirds. They soon changed their name to Led Zeppelin by the end of 1968. Pity those who left this successful band.
wolfsblood07 3 years ago
Originally, Page approach pete townsend and keith moon about forming a band. Pete replied that it would go over like a lead zeppelin. Who would have figured that al of the guitarists and bands we love were centered around this one band the Yardbirds.
classz123 3 years ago
By Pete Townsend, I believe you meant John Entwistle!... ;-)
snusmumriken3 3 years ago
he's doing ian curtis dance!
ybot1983 3 years ago
fkn awesome
asfarbackasicanremem 3 years ago
I actually think the zeppelin cover is better. The yardbirds one kinda sounds like keith is receiting poetry. It's really the singing for me on this one. Robert plant has alot more emotion. But thats only this song. The yardbirds still kick ass.
jagers1994 3 years ago
wow
torkerbmx 3 years ago
i agree with "rrrasamus" i've seen led zep & the yardbirds do this live & BONHAM is va bit of an old thumper on the drums
princealbertenigma 3 years ago
The Yardbirds were one of the greatest and most influential bands in the history of recorded music, end of story. This footage is a fascinating piece of musical history and altho it may not be the greatest version of Dazed and Confused ever recorded it gets my +10 rating for even existing much less surviving. I have two copies of the vinyl record "Live Yardbirds! featuring Jimmy Page," one on Epic and the re-release on Columbia, and I place it on my list of greatest live records ever recorded.
xXcampx 3 years ago
Good stuff.
introvertical71 3 years ago
I bet Page loves the fact that we can all see this now.
caledwards 3 years ago 2
i bet you are right!!! its about time jake holmes got credit for his song!
1hr4play 3 years ago
I'll be honest. I really love Led Zeppelin, and I like the Yardbirds also. However, I think that the Led Zeppelin version (all of them) are better than this one. The Led Zeppelin version has more feel to it (in my opinion), and the Yardbirds are lacking it on this recording of it.
Junnage 3 years ago
amen bro
oilspillcanvasthing1 3 years ago
This is an amazing piece of footage - talk about wastching (listening), retrospectively of course, to rock musice evolution...Page, you legend - he dragged this influence into Zep and nearly every other rock band to emerge in the late 60's / 70's and beyond - listen to the riff just after the 'act like a cat' lyric, Paranoid lick by Black Sabath pays direct homage to that riff! Thanks for posting....
psyclezone 3 years ago
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YOU DISGUST ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is where Zeppelin came from? the root of zeppelin? is this a joke
u think jpj, bonham, or plant gave a fuck what these chazzballs (except page) were doing musically?
so this is where Stairway, no quarter, whole lotta love, communication breakdown, kashmir...ETC rooted from????
ZEPPELIN (PALNT!, JPJ!, BONHAM!, and PAGE!) WROTE THE BOOK and they sure as hell weren't Protege-ing the yardbirds for 12yrs run
!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!
carbiduis 3 years ago
Hey bro, do you know what this is here? This is a piece of Rock history and you're making fun of it.
Go do some research and understand the importance of THE YARDBIRDS to the history of rock.
I freakin' love this video! I had no idea that The Yardbirds even did a version of this song. And I know a lot about music!!!
LGathLax 3 years ago
Hey Carbiduis, No need to go into cardiac arrest.You should've used more K-Y jelly on your zoso butt plug.Go to hell you dopey bean bag casualty.You disgust me !!! Yardbirds forever Led Zep never.
EyeOfADream 3 years ago 2
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any actual reason why the birds were better? didn't think so. corny-ass singer and a lethargic drummer always makes for a great combo
carbiduis 3 years ago
there's no point arguing with a dimwit like you.on your bike wanker.
EyeOfADream 3 years ago
still no actual reason why they were any good...interesting
carbiduis 3 years ago
Lethargic????! Watched the vid several times, can't see it!... But then again, I'm sure you're a very good drummer yourself, so you must know what you're talking about! :-P
snusmumriken3 3 years ago 2
not much wrist action, mostly just drops his arms and lets the sticks bounce once or twice, not much energy
carbiduis 3 years ago
Given the fact that the image quality isn't great, I'm impressed that you can notice such details!... Listen to the sound!... IMO, the drumming is pretty sharp and incisive!
snusmumriken3 3 years ago 2
Indeed. Jim McCarty is one of the finest drummers ever, Bonham's drumming is dull in my opinion compared to McCarty's work. The Yardbirds were way better than Led Zeppelin imo.
rrrasmus 3 years ago
psh...Bonham was twice the drummer McCarty will EVER be...then again, i'm sure McCarty behaved himself a lot better than bonham...haha
oilspillcanvasthing1 3 years ago
Well, that's your opinion. I prefer McCarty's work :) And yeah, McCarty wasn't as wild as Bonham :D
rrrasmus 3 years ago
i would agree that McCarty was an exceptional drummer - i do like Bonham as well. would not compare them myself, they just had diff. styles. Bonham had the advantage of better studio environments, etc. and of course, the zeppelin formula would not have ever come into being if relf, mccarty, dreja, et al did not lay it out 1st. one advantage this version has is relf giving it some harp energy, plant never took the harp to this number (i prefer the version on "live yardbirds featuring jimmy page")
dljone9 3 years ago
I also prefer the version on "Live Yardbirds..", I have the original vinyl!
rrrasmus 3 years ago
Look, this is where Zeppelin
came from. The rest is histoy. Enjoy.
charliechristeff 3 years ago
now i see where the Heart of led zep comes from.
snowxxy 3 years ago
I actually think it's a very good interpretation of the song, but like the Zep, it's just one of many interpretations! And Keith Relf sure didn't give up playing the harp because he wasn't capable as he was a really great harp player!! True sometimes he had breathing problems because of his asthma, but go to the I'm a man song on German T and you will see.
68generation 3 years ago
Oh I loved that one! Then someone took it off for some reason. Do you know who had it, and if it will be put on again? The other songs on that performance in Germany are still there, but that one (I'm A man) is gone! Strange..
loveoldsongs 3 years ago
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This song really really sounds like shit
Zerzoso 3 years ago
zerzoso get off your butt plug you worthless moron. the only thing that's shit is the verbal diarrhoea coming out of your mouth.
EyeOfADream 3 years ago 4
So do you Zerzoso !!
violinbloke 3 years ago 2
I like it.
Does anyone have Jake Holmes doing "I'm Confused?" It would be interesting to compare the two.
witchman67 3 years ago
I have just posted a video response to this vid! Check! ;-)
JimMcCartyandCo 3 years ago
Jimmy McCarty's drumming in this one had a spine-tingling, seductive quality to this song! It's haunting! Keith's vocals are haunting too. The different players were so innovative in this song and others. It's almost as if they seized the baton from Jake Holmes, then ran with it, then passed it to Led Zeppelin!
I'm surprised that some of the heavy metal bands later on didn't pick this song up! Bands like Metallica or Motley Crue or some of them! I'd wonder what they would have done with it?
loveoldsongs 3 years ago
good thing dreja didnt join the new yardbirds.
iam1332 3 years ago 2
id like to second that
pagey9704 3 years ago
trivia: Chris Dreja took the photos that appear on the back of Led Zeppelin I.
xXcampx 3 years ago
The Yardies arent that good..lets face it. Al very good musicians but they didnt gel.. Too many cooks spoil the broth... This song sounds like shit ... no?
The vocals fall short.. and he even gives up playing the Harmonica cause he's having trouble bending the notes.. Page has is amp setting on ''dont steal the limelight Jimmy!'' And this song is all about vocals and heavy guitar. Blues without feeling fails to captivate.. Roger plant and Zep' do it ten times better imo
shakemysnakefool 3 years ago
Well, well that's your opinion isn't it? It's not fact! Other people have a different opinion than your's; that doesn't make them wrong!
loveoldsongs 3 years ago
this song kicks so much ass
distr0ia 3 years ago
Great. Eric Clapton recommended Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck after he quit the yardbirds.
brunoscake 3 years ago
sorry we don't all have this vast knoweledge of music as you clearly do. zepelin is an incredibly overrated band and don't get pissy with me, your the one who brought zeppelin up for a non zeppelin video. i'm tired of people saying "Theyr enot as good as zeppelin" which is the jist of what you said, who fucking cares this isn't Led Zeppelin, incase you didn't notice it says "Yardbirds" at the top, stop bitching.
QueenetBowie 3 years ago
I thought this was Zep with a substitute singer! Keith is cool in other things, but he's singing an octave lower than Plant! Great guitar! The way he strikes it...
konarain 3 years ago
Wow its almost like Jimmy Page's Solo's dont work in this context, another reason I pefer Led Zeppelin, this is a great band and they started some amazing ideas, but they never went as far as Zeppelin did with it
Ravenite1 3 years ago
how cud they go as far as zeppelin....them spliting up created zeppelin
lovesclareybum 3 years ago
Well... not really, Jimmy Page created Led Zeppelin, not the other members of Yardbirds... Led Zeppelin (Jimmy Page) took the undeveloped infant ideas of the Yardbirds and did something amazing with it, Led Zeppelin is not pop commercial its musical evolution, some bands like Yardbirds stop growing at a certain point, Led Zeppelin carried onward to new musical textures and journeys that the Yardbirds could never touch
Ravenite1 3 years ago
kinda no..seeing as tho the led zep line up (plant page bonham jones) played at the begining under the name the yardbirds
lovesclareybum 3 years ago
The new yardbirds? Thats a completly different name, and besides Led Zeppelin IS the yardbirds, or vice versa...
Ravenite1 3 years ago
your right, Zeppelin IS Yardbirds, unfortunately not many understand
that.
CadillacL 3 years ago
Oh and kinda yes bitch, Led Zeppelin WAS created by Jimmy Page, check your damn facts, if you have any.
Ravenite1 3 years ago
zeppelin was over commercialized.
QueenetBowie 3 years ago
Zeppelin was over commercialized? What a nitpicky thing to say, just cause the yardbirds never got as to close to famous as Zeppelin at all doesnt make Zeppelin a bad band. Just because the yardbirds patheticly crashed and died and no one cared doesnt mean you have to take it out on led zeppelin...
Ravenite1 3 years ago
They didn't crashed (as you say)... Two of them pulled the plug intentionally and the reason why their new audiences weren't always digging them was precisely because they wanted to hear the Yardbirds "sound" instead!...
snusmumriken3 3 years ago
I love the line "feel like a mouse and you act like a cat"
jag555y 3 years ago 2
either original or cover, this is one of my fav songs of all time
Betelgeus3 3 years ago
wat does he say in 5:07???
pablobostero1280 3 years ago
this is so much closer to the original Holmes than the zeppelin version
metalburger2 3 years ago
Look at the drummers facial expression at 2:40. It's like he is thinking - wtf kind of music are they playing? This was new and very different from anything at the time.
A precious video. The beginning of Led Zeppelin.
MeOnYT 3 years ago
They had been playing strange music for quite a while....his expression was just an anomaly. In fact he had taken Jake Holmes song and set up the arrangement for the rest of the band to work on.
The very best Yardbird's version of this is from Shrine Aud just before the breakup. Led Zep never did it that well. I always miss Keith's harmonica and three part Om'ing when I hear the Led Zep later versions, studio and live. Keith was the real influence with the meditative, cosmic sounds.
rialcnis 3 years ago
That's that very look that made me started that Jim&Co channel, believe me or not!...;-)
snusmumriken3 3 years ago
At 5:07 does he say you fuck me like a mouse but you act like a cat, or is it just me?
sde815 3 years ago
FEEL like a mouse, and you act like a cat! ;-)
snusmumriken3 3 years ago
hahaha that's your subconscious making up a song of its own...
aruseb 3 years ago
Hahah, fuck me like a mouse? WTF?
Priole2000 3 years ago
The Band is alright but the guitar player will never go anywhere!
anythingdammit 3 years ago 3
there isnt the same chemistry between McCarty and jimmy as bonzo and jimmy either
heavymetalkicksass 3 years ago
there isnt the the same chemistry between keith and jimmy as there was with robert and jimmy
jimmydanpage 3 years ago
ha i like how jimmy is dressed :P
saico73 3 years ago
Keith Relf conveyed such an aura and magic to the group that without him it would have not been the same at all, besides the great harp player he was!!
68generation 3 years ago 4
True the Ybirds were way ahead of time, but many of their recordings weren't supported by fine instruments in the studios. Keith was able to sing from blues to pop and folk. I invite you to hear the CD's he recorded after the Ybirds when he founded the group Renaissance, with a folk sound, then Armageddon with a heavy,psichodelic sound; he sings great on all of these. Actually Page asked Keith to remain in the Yardbirds but Relf wanted to do something different so HE left with McCarty.
68generation 3 years ago
I don't think you can compare the Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin. They were great in different ways. If the Yardbirds had the sound system Led Zeppelin did, I'm sure the sound would be just as good. Also, the recording methods were just 8 track crap in 1968, so you really aren't hearing the full range of the Yardbirds. I say they were way ahead of their time in 1968. Way ahead.
BuckwheatsayHI 3 years ago