Tales of Symphonia 2 - Normal Ending (2/3)

[MrWhatever0523]

when u beat the game how do u do ur old file cause every time i try to do my old file it takes me to the extra new game crap

[PacoHeavyFire]

Johnny Yong Bosch give life to Emil, seriously

[AzureDragoonGX]

Marta is a frickin good character. Her voice actor is really good too

[thundershadow8]

Epic. The Tales Series is always awesome!

[SKATERBOY96ify]

wasn't that fight a bit short?

[Rumblephil1]

@SKATERBOY96ify ratatosk is kind of level 60, while you can actually get easy 80-100 on 1st playthrough... of course that is if you try to get strong monsters.

[SKATERBOY96ify]

@Rumblephil1

Omega was level 60 when he fought him and the battle was short. When I fought him the first time I expected a longer battle. Ratatosk really needs more HP

[mynysyn]

i love the numerou nods about 40 seconds in :P

[YuriXEstelle]

lol, Ratatosk = Darwin.

[YuriXEstelle]

@ 0:54 it looks like Emill has pierced Marta with sword. lol!!!

[Raulkklobos]

and thats why in tales of phantasia the land didn't die due to the lack of mana, nice way of covering that

[chunkydjmonkey]

how do u get this ending

[TimeFireProductions]

@chunkydjmonkey After the final boss (Richter), you'll enter into a fight with Marta and Lloyd. You have to let them defeat you, then you'll get some scenes and then you'll fight Ratatosk one-on-one (this part here).

[tomozcanfly]

i hope they have a tales of symphony 3 (and correct me if i'm wrong). They should still include all the characters as well^^

[Raulkklobos]

@tomozcanfly

i prefer mitho's story for ToS 3

[QTLuvsabrinalynn]

"What do you mean by rewrite?" "What do you mean by decline?" Havn't you ever heard of adictionary dumbbutt?

[NotTheFame9]

I do admit, the VA's could really suck at times, but I was estatic when they voiced the skits.

[Bowzerisadog]

does anyone know what happens if you lose in the fight with rataosk??

[Sanchairudo]

@Bowzerisadog Game Over^^

[Bowzerisadog]

@Sanchairudo lol thats lame

[kinichou]

@Bowzerisadog same ending.

[ksuphatcha]

@Bowzerisadog Nothing change. it doesn't matter with the end 'cause Ratatosk will accept you anyway

[DragonCrazy666]

if you get the normal ending can you start an x-game? start again with the same save file and buy stuff from the grade shop?

[Bowzerisadog]

@DragonCrazy666 yeah

[Danieldx22]

i like how the corporal lenguage don`t over react like most of all anime

[Metalgenocide1]

@narutomaniac159

That, good sir, is made of win XD

[geasslelouch]

the only thing that failed about this game in my opinion wad green eyed Emil had a sucky personality and i could not level up the people from the first one so by the time you get Lloyd he sucks

[SummitGold]

@geasslelouch Shut up! Green Eyed Emil has the best personality ever!

[geasslelouch]

@SummitGold lies red eyes has a way better one and a better voice plus he has an evil laugh green eyes does not get that

[SummitGold]

@geasslelouch what I am saying is to stop insulting the cute Emil.

Geez, I think I can predict what kind of friends you have, lol

[MasterCarlisle]

@SummitGold i agree i love Green Eyed Emil way more

[DragonCrazy666]

@SummitGold yeah, i agree. and geasslelouch, i've managed to level emil up to over level 70 and the characters from the first game that are in my party are only level 20, if you grind (spend ages attacking monsters for no reason) then you can level up realy fast.

[HammerHead5206]

@narutomaniac159 that was full of win lol!

[erika2497]

Ratotosk: "Show me your powers!"

Emil: "I'll show you my powers!!!

I don't know why, but this part makes me laugh! XD

[Hisukia]

@erika2497 me too xD

[Cosplaythief]

I am honestly sorry but Emil's top looks so feminine. I keep glancing at it in hopes of finding breasts. Doesn't help that his hair can be for a girl too.

Oh well, I still like him so it's not so bad. XD

[kinichou]

@Cosplaythief I agree. I borrowed this game from my cousin and at first glance,I thought the game was about girls

[animewar999]

what happends if you don´t defeat Ratatosk?

[TalesofFans]

@animewar999 nothing he just calls you a weakling but after that its all the same

[Crooxander]

wow , thas deep man

[frostkiss2]

Strange. The ending reminds me of the bible, where it says, that the world is going to end for the reason to be reborn.

That's how life is.

[chickenbitslol]

There is one question i wanna kno, what is the music that plays during the ratatosk fight...

[iTzSH4DOW]

i dont think there is any... at least, i dont remember any

[Tentenxhinata]

"Alright, I will accept you as apart of me out of respect for that TINY bit of courage you have inside."

[Symphonia30]

The story got confusing after a while

[Brqwerty]

Yes.... Heres my anaylsis

Richter intends to bring back Aster and kill ratataosk.

Lloyd intends to get all the cores to prevent the vanguard from using them (And something else, im going through me 2nd play so I should get a better understanding soon)

Emil& others: Awaken an evil dude who wants to kill everyone, though they dont know it, and only figure it out a little bit b4 the end of the game.

[Symphonia30]

Yeah but where does emil come in the first time of the game?

[Brqwerty]

I think ratatosk formed him so he can inhabit him and since Aster was who he killed he based emil of him.

[dariomodugno]

@Symphonia30

basically Ratatosk created Emil to prevent his core transformation using the corpse of Aster giving him all control at first with some reminds created by itself to protect himself while "resurrecting" and created the Fake ratatosk core on the head of Marta to prevent enemyes to catch on him, but at the end he understands that Emil insnt only a puppy to use but a kind boy that helps him to understand Mankind

[yibuu2]

ratakost kinda sounds like lelouch a little

[DuskShark]

Same VA.

[GaaraOTB]

Lloyd VS Kratos.

Luke VS Asch.

Yuri VS Flynn.

Emil VS Ratatosk.

You gotta admit that Tales has the best one on one fights.

[Supermari0078]

yeah and all of them are epic

[herio907]

Agreed.

[DuskShark]

Don't forget Veigue VS Milhaust.

[21reggie21]

hellz yeah

[MarkPheonix]

@GaaraOTB I def agree with you there bro

[123mrcloud]

@GaaraOTB what is the game with luke vs asch

[MariedeSinestre1]

@GaaraOTB and Senel VS Walter

[SayaFight]

Wow this is the first time I've seen emil in ratatosk mode nice :D

[THESWP2008]

But he had 4X your hit points!!

[Buffon169]

It was like Ichigo vs Hollow Ichigo.

But I think this was better~! More intense :]

[rpggame16]

Emil vs Ratatosk. I've never felt so much intensity in this one fight than any other battle.

[dododooooo]

I lost to the Ratatosk mode emil and still got the Best ending because I did the "good" choices.

[dododooooo]

I so loved this game. I'm kinda glad other people didn't like it cause I got it cheap! =] Loved it!

[Orowam]

when i played i set down my controler after losing to marta and lloyd, and i freaked out at 1:59 when the battle started XD

[alejobradley]

what item do you use or how do you display that little square where they show you the enemy health and level???

[ToraSempai]

you need to press and hold the - button

[DarkonFullPower]

There is no item in this game. It just gives it to you.

[NarutoRPCfan]

The game is MORE THAN AWESOME! It's the AWESOMEST! The best game I had in years!

[213luiz]

It's obvious that this is a RPG of respect to Wii

[xLordxcheeriox]

The Voice acting was actually one of the greatest I heard (Haven't played very much RPG)

Sure the dialogue can be cheesy at times but i'm sure it was equally embarrassing in the Japanese version. The only voice acting I got goosebumps from it being horrible would be

unison arte "Ars Nova"

[Edingue]

Agreed. Ars Nova is the only thing I didn't like hearing in the game. Marta's "This is it!" makes me facepalm. But overall the voice acting is good.

[Orowam]

hm... i didnt think ars nova was bad. it was pretty good acting overall, but i guess it got a little awkward at times...

[AtraLuna]

I rented this game and I only got to see the good and bad endings, out of curiosity, is it game over if you lose against Ratatosk?

[wingsoul701]

i hope they make a talse of symphonia 3 any one elss?

[kirbyman17]

cant wait till it comes out

[ArcaneKnite]

Not really. I'm hoping they'll make a completely new Tales series. ToS2 wasn't that great imo. They could probably do better with fresh material though.

[KaizerHuter]

I certainly agree that Tales of Symphonia 2 wasn't all that good, But it didn't suck either... And I can't really say that I'm looking foward for a third ToS...

But the ending of this game explains ToP.

I always wondered: "If Mana is the source of all life, How come at the beggining of Tales of Phantasia the world survived without mana?"

[rpggame16]

They shouldnt make a third one after this ending. Its good to end the story like this.

[AkumaUchitoru]

lol. That's actually true. XD Johnny is awesome though. ^^ I think Yuri did the same though for Haseo in .Hack//G.U. in the scene right before he goes into Xth form. The other Haseo pretty much had the same exact voice...

[JuhnaNemiko]

25:01 hours to beat. Just got done like 10 min ago.

[DragonGirlPR]

Can I ask what happens if you lose to Ratatosk?

[rchase32]

I'm almost 100% sure it doesn't change anything, because I lost to him, but I still got the good ending.

[DragonGirlPR]

Ah I see, but does Ratatosk's script change? Not for the whole ending, but for what he says after that battle.

[rchase32]

Yeah, it does. I forgot about that. The Ratatosk tells Emil something like, "I thought you were going to beat me and tell me show me that even I had a little kindness in me." Can't remember exactly but it's to that effect. I actually like the losing script better

[xheatx]

too bad ratatosk was too easy...grr now i feel like i should have lost on purpose :(

[rchase32]

lol, yeah, i lost so i could start over cause i wanted to beat lloyd and marta, but now that i know that's the bad ending...

[xheatx]

yea i know im doing that exact same thing. it's actually a challenge to beat them on mania without using a mystic arte >=D i need to do it now!

[sgurlrox]

hehe I LOVED IT ty!! :D

[proach6]

wat is top

[T3hCh3rryNinja]

Wow. :o I got perfect ending the first try. o.o;; But, I liked the game and the ending. I hope there's another. If not, I'm pretty content with the ending. ^w^

[CallMeKazu]

Maaan, I got the bad ending... I forgot that you were supposed to die... and not kick Lloyds and Marta's asses...

Game Over.

[T3hCh3rryNinja]

Oop. That stinks. But it's fine as long as you saved before. (You gotta go through the boss battle, again o_e). Sometimes, though, you can't help but fight back at Lloyd and Marta. xD; They are pretty easy to beat.

[FarahxReid1059]

Wow. The Emil vs Ratatosk fight is like Luke vs Asch XD

[Symphonia69]

wow I have over played I was lvl 73 at this part

[T3hCh3rryNinja]

?!  I was like...53. :O

[Symphonia69]

lol I had alot of problems with that boss that was the fire tree with all the jabbers and yea my high leveling started from there

[claw3966]

wtf i only got to 53. of course emil kept dying at the end of boss battles so he missed out on chunks of exp

[Symphonia69]

yea man I did too many quests from the start of chapter six until I figured out that the twilight palace quests were at chapter five now I have to do the whole game over just to do the dungeon GAHH!

[gamer2394]

does it matter if u win or lose againt yourself?

[kirant]

No.

[Zeyhk]

...so that explains why Cless, Mint and Chester were capable of living in a Tree-less world for such a long time.

[kupocoffe]

What would happen if you would lose to the ratotosk Emil in this one? I understand that this was a pretty easy battle. I just beat the game today but it will take me days again to figure out this question.

[stutwi]

meh nothing same result

[solstrom92]

Doh, i was kindo hoping to see kratos back : (

[talesofJr]

Look at more of omegas videos you'll see him.

[gdfjb1993]

This game was cool :D, although the original will always be my favorite title in the series this game wasn't bad, also yes people should stop complaining about the voices :/ I mean they're not as good as the original but hey not THAT bad I like the original voice for Lloyd but Lloyd does seem a little to old for that kind of voice(no offence)I thought it was OK(even though my reaction to this was harsh but I learn to like it)most of the voices are fine and some...meh...But still it a good game:)

[BronxDragon]

i was half expecting you know Rattys orginal form to come up instead of fighting another emil

[oldskool2121]

how can you half expect something~family guy

[BronxDragon]

im going to ignore your comment

[Ninjakunai42094]

rivlas right. Emil gets porched on his butt infront of Ratatosk.

[JikaB]

This is a great game :D i've just beaten it but there were some flaws that made the 1st one really fun :D but i can live without them though like you have to change your character in battle and you can only put marta or emil in de first space and why cant you play as monsters i mean that would be fun :D

[atruong18zx]

i kept on expecting for emil and ratatosk to merge and then have 2 colored eyes, 1 red and 1 green, for some reason. oh well lol this works too

[Terestrasz]

Emil would have Christmas eyes them.

[atruong18zx]

lol thats true. didnt think of it like that

better as orange-ish + hazel-ish

[rivlas]

Nope, whether you win or lose against your other self, you get the same result

[Sora928]

I really love the Animated Cutscenes using GameAnimation then ANIMED STYLE, but I do wish. At least the ENDING should be in a ANIMED STYLE. It is a ENDING, I really wish the Good ending was in ANIMED STYLE

[darklink951]

would you get the bad ending if you lose the fight against yourself?

[neroroairpilot]

if you kill Marta and Lloyd in the boss against yourself, you get the bad ending. let them kill you, normal ending.

[T3hCh3rryNinja]

Yup.  And if you answered all the questions right during the course of the story, you get the perfect ending. ;D Which includes the normal ending and a special extra. =w=

[elipaul17]

well u don't have to get them ALL right you just can't answer as many bad answers

[Atrellion]

this game was a bit short =/

[bloodangelxx]

not really, remenber that the first time you finish rpg,s games, its not 100%

[Atrellion]

but it barely has any extra events T.T

[bloodangelxx]

there is,if you keep the difficulty on maniac

[TheYTProject]

Nah its not, my original playthrough for this was about 2 hours less than my original playthrough of Tales of Symphonia, though I did play this game on Hard mode my first play through, that could have slow'd me down a bit...

[Atrellion]

i beat the game in 37 hours :(, it took me 84 hours to beat symphonia

[xheatx]

actually...it took me about 80 hours to beat this game *blush*

[Unmaskedhaku]

80!?!?!?!?

Holy shit my gameplay time is 34 hours

[lewibe46]

took me like 47 hrs on my 1st play through but i spent like 12 hrs just monster hunting and doing quests.

[AkumaUchitoru]

I did a lot of side quests to and finish in 40-50 hours. Felt short despite how much time it actually took. Must have been the quests... Anyways, the whole thing was like "Get all the cores and go to the Ginnungagap and you're done." This game needed more to it but oh well...

[ChaosDistortionBlade]

As much as I like this ending so far, I think it has to be non-canon, because it sounds like it contradicts ToP to me.

[WonSab]

Explain?

[KureejiiLea]

No, it doesn't. It actually fixes an inconsistency between ToS and ToP.

[iTzNoko]

Wait I still don't quite understand. I thought in ToP there was the magitech things or whatever that was drying up mana?

[KureejiiLea]

...and?

In ToS, part of the reasoning behind the world split was to limit the mana each side got and thus limit their technological growth, the reasoning being that high tech stuff consumed even more mana and would deplete what was left from the seed too quickly (that's why there's such a difference between the tech everywhere). Eventually by ToP magitechnology had risen again to the point of putting extreme strain on the Tree; it was using mana at a faster rate than the tree could produce it.

[iTzNoko]

Yeah I know, but I thought he's sealing the mana up and that in a thousand years it will be gone. Doesn't ToP take place much farther beyond one thousand years?

[omegaevolution]

read carefully what he is saying. Ratatosk is not sealing the mana for it to dissapear from the world.

[iTzNoko]

Oh I see, thanks

[KureejiiLea]

He's making it so that the land itself doesn't need mana to survive (as is the case in ToP; it was part of the problem in ToS) and is using that excess to make a new seal for the door.

[iF1RAS]

Original Symphonia and Vesperia are classified as epicly good RPGs

[NotUrSoda]

hm i think i just saw Emil beat his own ass o_o

but wow Ratatosk sure seems sad :(

[GardioxNebilim]

any cameo battles?

[xheatx]

you get to fight lloyd at the start of the game =D

[Drolian]

Wait what. You got gald for beating Ratatosk Emil, how? Isn't that just a vision inside of Emil? He like...took his own money wtf.

[DIEDIECANNON20XL]

LoL! OMG. Sooo funny! hahaha... haha... ahh... wooow... I didn't think of that before! Its too funny now that i think about it! damn ur funny man... wow...

[nintendofan133]

lmfao your right

[CDub7888]

Just out of curiosity, Omega, what, in your opinion, would classify itself under the "ZOMG AWESOME RPG" category?

[omegaevolution]

Persona 3 and Tales of Vesperia would be in that category for me O:

and the original Symphonia as well :3

alongside with some more classic ones, like Skies of Arcadia and such.

[Jonathanx458]

I agree with All of those lol, But is it true that theres a Lvl Restriction on the original Cast?

[mathguy888]

Yea, all the original characters max at lev 50. I've heard rumors that in the japanese version u can make em as high as u want.

[vivisapprentice21]

No, the japanese version has a lvl 50 restriction for the original cast as well.

[talesofJr]

Did you ever wonder why this fight was easy.

[IchigoUzumaki526]

I think emil has got serious issues 'cause not only is he talking to himself, hes fighting himself as well. I mean I've heard of inner conflict but this is ridiculous

[RaDinokun]

maybe he needs to go to the psychologist, maybe freud

[AkumaUchitoru]

There should always be fights with the dark side though because it sounds freaking awesome! :D

[Ankarua]

"Thank you for everything. I'm glad that you were me."

That made me lol.

[ramzaomega]

emil's going crazy fighting himself