Damn, how do you mess up a James Brown classic? Kaaawa2000 was correct. This drummer was playing an old blues-shuffle beat when he should have been playing a Stubberfield "funky drummer" type of beat. Don Was and Sweet Pea both know better.
That's subjective. That beat does not fit in James Brown's original arrangement - regardless, as to who created this new version. That beat DOES NOT fit. Learn music theory. This version sounds like a "cowboy" attempt to be funky.
You're right, it is subjective - that was my point. I have three decades of music theory study under my belt - it has nothing to do with this debate (unless your saying the drummer. is playing that "shuffle" incorrectly).
Randy Jacobs re-arranged the tune with what you refer to as "and old blues-shuffle beat" - it's his arrangement and it puts forth his feeling of what this tune is about musically. You may not like it, but I doubt Mr. Jacobs gives a rat's ass - it is HIS arrangement.
DiveJunkee you are correct. My comment was out of order. I guess James Brown's music is very personal to me - and I guess if I don't hear it being played the way it was originally written, I get defensive & sarcastic. Your arguments are correct - and I stand corrected.
The parallel of your argument would be that Herbie Hancock's reworking of Don Henley's "New York Minute" (with Jack DeJohnette on drums) is "incorrect" because Hancock made it swing. Or that Coltrane's take on "My Favorite Things" is also wrong for the same reason (that would be the Master, Elvin Jones, on drums in that version, BTW).
I love this arrangement. Randy's guitar work is over the top. I've watched this a bunch of times - can't say I'm too fond of the harp or keyboard solos... can't win 'em all.
The original James Brown version was of course straight 8ths, but the drummer hit the snare on "2" and on the "and of 4", which was awkward.
This version is, up to the solos, is the best I've heard.
Randy's lick at 0:53 is ridiculous, love that guy's playing.
Hey, Sian... that is the mighty David Was, founder-member of this, the most under-rated American band of the last thirty years. His 'brother' Don Was is the dude with the locks and the bass guiiiitar... Since I shot this WNW have released an amazing and beautiful new album, called 'Boo!'. I recommend you check it out. Thanks for watching!
man, this song was so good!!!.... until the mediocre harp player ruined it. There r sooo many good harp guys out there and this is a good band... they could do better
I respectfully refer you to the above answer, HiG. I disagree. After this show I said to Tio the PHENOMENALLY great keyboard player 'Hey... this was the show that Prince WISHES he could give, man.' And this footage looks and sounds better every time I see it. I had been a fan of the band for 20 years at this point, and I was SO damn lucky to be there with a camera in my hands...
Wow .......!!
thecaproni100 1 year ago
Didn't these guys continue on as the Bone Shakers?
powderchowder2 1 year ago
This vid is a monster!
easydoesit 1 year ago
Damn, how do you mess up a James Brown classic? Kaaawa2000 was correct. This drummer was playing an old blues-shuffle beat when he should have been playing a Stubberfield "funky drummer" type of beat. Don Was and Sweet Pea both know better.
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
This is the arrangement Randy Jacobs wrote for the first Boneshakers album "Book of Spells" so the drummer is playing the "correct" beat.
The fact is you just don't like the arrangement - it's got 'nothin' to do with messin' it up.
DiveJunkee 2 years ago
That's subjective. That beat does not fit in James Brown's original arrangement - regardless, as to who created this new version. That beat DOES NOT fit. Learn music theory. This version sounds like a "cowboy" attempt to be funky.
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
You're right, it is subjective - that was my point. I have three decades of music theory study under my belt - it has nothing to do with this debate (unless your saying the drummer. is playing that "shuffle" incorrectly).
Randy Jacobs re-arranged the tune with what you refer to as "and old blues-shuffle beat" - it's his arrangement and it puts forth his feeling of what this tune is about musically. You may not like it, but I doubt Mr. Jacobs gives a rat's ass - it is HIS arrangement.
DiveJunkee 2 years ago
DiveJunkee you are correct. My comment was out of order. I guess James Brown's music is very personal to me - and I guess if I don't hear it being played the way it was originally written, I get defensive & sarcastic. Your arguments are correct - and I stand corrected.
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
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DiveJunkee 2 years ago
The parallel of your argument would be that Herbie Hancock's reworking of Don Henley's "New York Minute" (with Jack DeJohnette on drums) is "incorrect" because Hancock made it swing. Or that Coltrane's take on "My Favorite Things" is also wrong for the same reason (that would be the Master, Elvin Jones, on drums in that version, BTW).
DiveJunkee 2 years ago
I love this arrangement. Randy's guitar work is over the top. I've watched this a bunch of times - can't say I'm too fond of the harp or keyboard solos... can't win 'em all.
The original James Brown version was of course straight 8ths, but the drummer hit the snare on "2" and on the "and of 4", which was awkward.
This version is, up to the solos, is the best I've heard.
Randy's lick at 0:53 is ridiculous, love that guy's playing.
Kaaawa2000 2 years ago
Who was the harp player?
SianReynolds 2 years ago
Hey, Sian... that is the mighty David Was, founder-member of this, the most under-rated American band of the last thirty years. His 'brother' Don Was is the dude with the locks and the bass guiiiitar... Since I shot this WNW have released an amazing and beautiful new album, called 'Boo!'. I recommend you check it out. Thanks for watching!
PaulMurff 2 years ago
Thanks ..... very cool guy - but pretty week on harp. I'll check out the new CD, though. Love 'em !
SianReynolds 2 years ago
man, this song was so good!!!.... until the mediocre harp player ruined it. There r sooo many good harp guys out there and this is a good band... they could do better
HendrixIsGod47 3 years ago
I respectfully refer you to the above answer, HiG. I disagree. After this show I said to Tio the PHENOMENALLY great keyboard player 'Hey... this was the show that Prince WISHES he could give, man.' And this footage looks and sounds better every time I see it. I had been a fan of the band for 20 years at this point, and I was SO damn lucky to be there with a camera in my hands...
PaulMurff 2 years ago
Tio Banks is my new bestest favourite musician.
Thanks for these videos, I've listened to them over, and over and over again.
spoddie 2 years ago