Assia Wevill+Shura RIP

[MsFartinginpublic]

poor child. she was a beautiful child. assia wevill destroyed the bonds of marraige and whether or not Ted Hughes is just as responsible the face remains, she is a temptress, a whore. and in the end how could she expect that happiness would come of her fucking up two marraiges?

[cmwalvat]

killing the child was selfish, but sometimes i wonder about sylvia killing herself with her children in the apartment. just leaving them there to sit alone. i wouldn't be able to kill my children, but i wouldn't be able to leave them either. devastation all around

[tinalilith]

a 54 second-video on Youtube followed by all these extreme comments is enough to show how difficult it is, indeed, NOT to judge.

[searcherboy]

It's appalling that Wevill murdered her and Hughes's child. Unforgiveable.

[sarabower1]

@searcherboy she had an abortion. How is that murder? It bothers me so much that men should even have an opinion on this.

It is ALWAYS a womens right to choose, as it is her body

[searcherboy]

@sarabower1 You're wrong. I did not refer to Wevill's abortion. Wevill's and Hughes's daughter Shura was 4 years old when Wevill fed her sleeping pills and turned on the gas. If that isn't murdering your child, I don't know what is.

[SMCrow21]

Assia was a horrible woman. A homewrecker, a slut, and a terrible mother. The only pity I feel is for her daughter. Sylvia Plath will be remembered because she was an extraordinary poet, Assia is already forgotten. Good riddance to her.

[xynzee50]

By all accounts it seems Assia become so obsessed with Sylvia Plaths life and her work, that she set out to emulate Plath in life and in death. Scary!!!

[indusvalleytrooper]

She demonstrated that she was habitually selfish. She had had affairs during each of her marriages, each time thinking she was moving onto men who would improve her reputation, David Wevill attempted suicide as a result of her affair with Ted Hughes. In the end she will go down in history as Sylvia Plath's love rival, while Sylvia will be remembered for her poetry.

[sliver321123]

You people are all so fucking creepy.

JESUS CHRIST.

[sunclov]

LOL!!!!!!!!

[sunclov]

@sliver321123

LOL!!! Right?

[sarabower1]

@sliver321123 why?

[892lgy7382]

I have ABSOLUTELY no sympathy for Assia Wevill. At least Sylvia made sure her kids when safe when she killed herself. RIP little Shura

[AdArmand]

She's was a captivating, fascianting woman. Thanks for this.

[sunclov]

Yeah, I agree

[korohodos]

disguised behind assia's beauty was an even greater beuaty. not sure about her daughter thoaugh. rip pretty darlingls

[ladylike1980]

Ted Hughes was the unluckiest guy on the planet. How dare anyone blame crazy Sylvia's selfish suicide on Ted?? Sylvia left her young children behind. Had someone with a cigerette opened the door to her house - The whole place would have blown up, including Plath's children.

Assia was really a witch. She killed herself Sylvia Plath style, to SPITE Ted Hughes. She also murdered her own child TO SPITE Ted Hughes. If a man pulled a murder suicide to spite his Ex - he would be hated!

[shoegalsho2]

@ ladylike1980 'How dare anyone blame crazy Sylvia's selfish suicide on Ted??'

How dare YOU! Clearly you have never been in contact with someone suffering from mental health problems! Suicide is NOT selfish. It's an act carried out by a person who is totally consumed by illness. Also, this is not 1900. Terms like 'crazy' used in a derogatory manor to depict the exceptionally unwell people is like calling the disabled 'cripples'. Speaking in such a way denotes a serious lack of intelligence.

[sarabower1]

@shoegalsho2 I totally 100% agree with you.

I shake my head at the beyond stupid comments people have made, as if they were really there and knew their lives.

No one knew what happened between them except the 2 parties involved.

To call suicide selfish demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of mental illness.

I couldn't imagine the agony that someone must be in in order to end their life.

But I do know there is no limit to human suffering.

Such people deserve our complete compassion.

[starletdempsy]

@sarabower1 Things happen, and I know how it feels to end ones life. But I do find it selfish by choice, one for the family the other for my belief in God. I will hurt the people that loves me most, and I would hurt God because he put me here to touch many people who need help in this terrible world we live in. People need encouragement, but it isn't right that she killed herself and her girl. Now, you can accept by opinion or you don't, it really doesn't matter to me.

[starletdempsy]

@sarabower1con't... One thing though, If I knew a person like that, I would encourage him/her to keep going in life and never give up. You do not realize how special you are in the sight of God. You are worth to live no matter what you did or what you've been through. I know you can't see or understand, and your so mad at the world and self, but keep on going. I know what it feels like to be locked in a jar and you can't breath, and feel you are literally cut off from the world and life. No fun.

[sarabower1]

@shoegalsho2 I would be my life that ladylike1980 is a young AMERICAN woman of limited education and

intelligence

[shoegalsho2]

@sarabower1 HA HA!! Yes! x

[SMCrow21]

@ladylike1980 I agree with your remarks on Assia, she was a slut and a terrible mother. Sylvia on the other hand was mentally sick, an amazing poet and writer, but she was ill. She couldn't help herself and no one knew how to help her. While I don't blame her suicide on Ted, he had a lot to do with it. He cheated on her while she stayed at home with the children.  He was a pathetic excuse for a man.

[ladylike1980]

@SMCrow21

I sort of agree with you about Ted Hughes. I can understand why Ted wanted to get out of that marriage. Being married to such an unstable women would be a burden. However, he should have co-raised those children (or ever tried to get custody) if Plath was unwell. However, he didn't co parent his children and it would be hard for anyone to handle two young children themselves, let alone Sylvia. Sad situation indeed. Yes, he was a terrible father.

[sarabower1]

@ladylike1980

It's funny how people make comments such as yours saying Ted Hughes was a bad father.

Why do you say that? Because of something you read?

You didn't know Ted nor Sylvia and you didn't know their lives. To make a comment about

Hughes as a parent when you really know less than nothing is beyond rediculous

[aivil1989]

what's the song ??? please people help me !!! :)

[sunclov]

The group is thievery corporation.

[aivil1989]

thank U !!! thievery corporation - "desert" by Emilie Simon :)

[mino2009]

whose music is it in the background? vanessa?

[starletdempsy]

Killing that child was a SELFISH act. It just shows what kinda of a person Assia was.

[sarabower1]

@starletdempsy she had an abortion

ABORTION IS NOT MURDER

[starletdempsy]

@sarabower1 She had an abortion? I was refering to her killing herself with her baby girl. Also, I do think abortion is selfish only when it involves women who are perfectly healthy and too the baby inside, but kills the child because they want to pursue their own ambitions. Don't get me wrong, ambitions are beautiful for the most part, but when you decided to spread your legs in the air and don't take the responsibilities that comes with it. I'm sorry I have 0 respect for you. that's my opinion

[Babalon]

Get a clue people -- read the histories, the books and stop judging and blaming Ted. These women took their OWN lives. Sylvia is the one who first came up to Ted at a party -- and actually BIT HIS FACE, drawing BLOOD, and that was their first meeting! Assia ALSO hit on Ted. For heaven's sake, he was a gorgeous, sexy man. His last wife lasted because she was a nurse, the perfect wife for Ted. Sylvia's poetry is good, but Ted's is GREAT. Deal with it. It has nothing to do with gender, but talent.

[sunclov]

ya, ya

[smithsisdeadx]

Right, so because a woman approaches a man that gives him the right to an affair, especially after marriage. Hughes knew Sylvia Plath was unstable mentally, and instead of trying to help her, comfort her, he got scared, and left for another woman, who he too, had an affair on! It's nothing to do with poetry, gender, any of that, but about being loyal, honest, and a decent human being. So yes, let us pity him, the attractive, sexy man who defied morals because of his immaculate, poetic talent.

[lotusgdess]

Agree w/Leslie but also feel women such as Assia who have navigated thru life riding the crest of exceptional beauty, don't do well when they begin to age. They have used their irresistable charisma to manipulate and get what they want since birth. She was hurt by Hughes but let's face it, she created lots of emotional devastation getting her selfish way in life. But I suspect she was trying to protect the child. It wasn't a Medea act to hurt Hughes who was indifferent to the child.

[sunclov]

She also had alot of abortions too, including the first child she got pregnant by with Hughes,(before Sylvia killed herself) in a time when abortion was not as excepted in society.

[LeslieGMN]

If you read "Lover of Unreason," the only biography of Assia Wevill, the authors cite a study of 2,000 suicides by mothers who also killed their children. The researchers noted that the mothers tended to feel that they were "saving" their children from the harshness of the world the mothers were leaving. Shura had only an aunt in Canada she'd never met, and a father who'd never married her mother. The Wevill deaths are horrendous, tragic, but the biography tells the story well.

[lotusgdess]

Ted Hughes was an unrepentant womanizer. He knew how much he hurt Sylvia, but he just had a cold heart and didn't care. The sad aspect of both of these women is that with all they both had going for them, they were still taken in by the fatal charisma of one such as Hughes. These kind of men walk the earth in large numbers, and smart women would do better to avoid them. Based on a number of biographies I've read, I would agree that Sylvia was probably hard to live with too but she didn't deserve

[sunclov]

I agree. I have nothing to do with men like that.

[AmethystWillow]

Rest in Peace, little Shura. It's a shame that you were murdered.

[ladylike1980]

Assia Wevill deserves no tribute She murdered her child before killing herself.

It's obvious to me that the murder suicide was meant to "get back" at Ted Hughes because he didn't marry her What better way to punish him by having "the feminists" blame HIM for her death too.

I feel sorry for Ted Hughes Sylvia was completely nuts - her own mother confirms this. There was no living with Sylvia Plath. Assia murdered her own kid to SPITE Ted Hughes. Teds biggest flaw was picking the wrong women.

[valensfreak]

Lord Cravat, I'm afraid Shura was gassed as well. Assia put sleeping pills in the little girl's juice and then, once the child was asleep, put her on the mattress in the kitchen and lay down with her, with the gas taps on. I've read the biography of Assia and she does NOT come over well-extremely self-absorbed,sociopathic really. BUT there is so much despair in killing one's own child along with self, well, I don't want to judge. Let's fervently all hope that WE never occupy that space.

[AdArmand]

Assia's beauty is devastating.

[oleanna977]

A great poet and a loathsome man! Not the first nor the last of the sort!

[the7thwreck]

Having one ex kill themselves is a tragedy, but two seems suspicious. I wonder how much of a part ted played in driving two, bright, beautiful women to end their lives? I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they had never met him...

[vb18panda]

what is the song in the background?

[sunclov]

Thievery Corporation.

[sunclov]

His absolute best work was "Birthday Letters".

Awesome book.

[sunclov]

Ted had a lot of heart,

but he was controlling and abusive with women. He treated them as Sex slaves/Mother/Maid figures as it were.

He even made them each wear bracelets, the pathology got so deep.

He was also attracted to disturbed/damaged women.

He Loved Sylvia as a wife, and Partner/Best friend, and had a strong attraction/romance with Asia. He was destroyed bu Shura's sacrifice.

[rubyflipper]

The neighbor upstairs came close to dying as well! How could she be sure when and if the nanny would show?? As it was, she came late!! What if she had not shown up? The children may have frozen or starved to death. What an ugly act!! She should have sought help, told someone what she was thinking of doing. Many women are cheated on and do not permanently abandon their children via suicide!

[sunclov]

Your right, You know, she could have had her mom take the kids for awhile.

The pain was too strong for her, I guess.

She probably figured her mom or her brother would end up taking the kids. Both equally offered good environments.

Of course, Ted fought her mother tooth and nail, over that issue after Sylvia died. he ended with the kids and some what neglecting at that, and constantly replacing Mother figures for them.

[ArielApollonia]

Many women who are cheated are not literary geniuses, nor are they mentally ill. Sylvia was both. Who are you to judge anyone? I'm sure she loved her children, and many ppl were aware of Sylvia's decline and her suicidal thoughts. I'm sure a mentally ill person who is about to commit suicide is not thinking very rationally. I think it's an uglier act to first sleep with someone else's husband and then kill both herself AND the child. Besides, isn't this video about Assia anyway, not Sylvia?

[eclecticfire73]

Yes, but some do. Killing your children if you are about to kill yourself is quite normal, when you have been abandoned and have no friends or family...it is not pyscopathology or mental illness, its a well-documented phenomenon, particularly if the mother is left as only carer for too many kids/disabled/autistic children etc..

Saying other people (with support) dont do it , is irrelevent.

[LeslieGMN]

Trevor Thomas lived in the downstairs flat from SP, and the carbon monoxide from her cooker seeped down and knocked him out for hours. SP insisted on being taken home from the centrally heated home of concerned friends, the Beckers, hours before she killed herself. Easily she could have left her children there, but suicide rarely is a completely rational act...

[Recusal]

Cheaters never prosper.

[sunclov]

That's also true, I've seen it first hand.

[elfielvr]

Whatever happened between Sylvia, Ted and Assia is one thing, but seeing the pictures of Shura rips my heart out. Bless her. True, we never know what is is someone's head, but to do that to your baby.. I just can't imagine a circumstance that would make that.. anything other than what it is : horrifying and evil. At least Sylvia thought of Frieda and Nick and protected them, even in her despair. *heavy sigh*

[sunclov]

That's true.

[allsweetnessandlight]

Why on earth have you made a tribute to a pair of unscrupulous, hedonistic adulterers, one of whom was a callous child killer?

What next, a memorial video for Myra Hindley?

You are obviously very naive........

[sunclov]

Don't judge. You never know what drives people to do what they do.

I remember hearing a women make a statement about how we forget some of the worst serial killers are human, and that's what is so disturbing and unnerving.

I agree with you. What she did was very wrong, and selfish. She had several abortions in her life. Ted Hughes was guilty for the rest of his life because of what happened. He wrote birthday letters as he was dying of Cancer, and it was all about Sylvia, and what happened.

[amandagris]

emilie simon- le desert

[DearParkWater]

whats the name and singer of this song?

[sunclov]

You can find it on Thievery Corporations album.

[machine860]

Assia Wevill was not a friend of either Sylvia Plath or Anne Sexton. Especially not of Sylvia Plath when you consider that Assia stole her sex addicted husband, Ted Hughes. It is true that Plath and Sexton were friends.

[rubyflipper]

"Assia stole Ted?" Excuse me, but Ted Hughes was not the type who was easily manipulated into anything. I am NOT excusing her; the end result of her life was horrifying. But Sylvia was so full of depression and profound negativity that it is no wonder that she eventually did what she did. People paint her as a hero, leaving bread out for the children. What is heroic about leaving two babies to an unknown future? How could she be sure they wouldn't be gassed as well?? The neighbor upstairs nearly

[sunclov]

Well, that was the issue with Asia too. She was unsure of what her daughters destiny would be when she died. If you read "Lover of Unreason", Ted was abusive, mentally. He was rejecting of Shura. Asia was alone in the country, just her and her daughter.

[rubyflipper]

My opinion is that Sylvia had a dangerous obsession with the occult, and it destroyed her.

Assia would have been fine if only she had moved herself and Shura far, far away from Ted. Ted treated her so shabbily. He wouldn't even call Shura his daughter in public. Assia should have returned with her daughter, to her own family, who would have loved and received them.

Ted gave money to Assia in the form of loans, which he would require that she pay back. What dastardly treatment!

[sunclov]

Oh, definitely, she did practice the occult!

The flat where she died, the same flat as the poet Yeats...Yeats was a huge disciple of the occult moving in the same circles as Aleister Crowley. Aleister Crowley even told him off once.

I know, I can't believe how cheap Ted was!!!

He should have been paying child support, what a shame. What a sociopath!!. No wonder she topped herself.

[usaTrini]

Assia Wevill, Sylvia Plath and Anne Sexton were friends and they all committed suicide. However, Wevill committed murder by killing her daughter. Sad.

[sunclov]

I know, I didn't know they were friends with Anne Sexton.

Isn't it strange and Bizarre.

[reese2099]

hughes and wevill are both worthless.