I agree. I recommend that you read some WW2 history regarding aircraft prototypes. The axis had interesting designs and ideas. The P51-D was an incredible machine, far more advanced than any of its counterparts but what if Germany had its development facilities outside war territory and what if the Japanese had a better manufacturing infrastructure. All will remain in the "what if", but one thing is true, what really helped the Allies win the war was that they were the ones who invaded.
funny theres no episode for the me109 showing what it achieved, meh and also amusing is the scenarios displayed here. pure american view and only american victories. but what do you expect from a 'USA' glorifiying 'history' (irony) show.
@TheJBurner 1. Winners write the history books, 2. The general consensus even among former Axis nations was that the American P-51 was the apex of the evolution of propellor driven aircraft, or the generation 1 fighters. It was, for a fact, simply better than anything the germans, japanese, or italians could possibly throw at it, even the me262, although that was mostly b/c hitler was stupid and made the thing a bomber, not a dog-fighter.
just compare the lists of the aces you find from WW2... and compare Germany and the USA Aces... well, you have to scroll down a long way in the German list until you get to those pilots who where on the level of the best US-pilots... -the greatest power of the USA is selective apperception... ;)
Yeaa, I call it American ingenuity (I'm not American btw). Not to stereotype, but mainly 'farm' or 'country' boys who grew up just going out working on the equipment, playing out in the field, trees, etc, wondering, dreaming and just being curious which contributed to their creativity and ability to adapt and react.
The same types who modified, cars, innovate, etc which fueled the American industrial might and fight. Its still there but the system is just messed now.
@navnig The Allison was a great engine at low altitudes for which the Mustang was originally designed and could outrun Spitfires and ME 109's with the Allison engine at those lower altitudes but as the war progressed they needed the higher altitude engine to reach the bombers. The Rolls Royce Merlin was a good engine but the actual engine that is in the P-51 is the American made Packard V-1650 which was an updated and improved variant developed from the Rolls Royce Merlin..........
@TheRaackMan My opinion. Spitfire, cannons, good speed and turning. Actually better. than P51. It maneuver better also. Mustang tend to catch fire. Some shamefully fell to Ki-43 Oscars over China. Finally only relying on Boom and zoom tactics to steal kills. one to one, a P51 lose to Spitfire
@RichMichael1980 Christ I thought America were world police again. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but your P-51 and all your bombers were a bunch of shite. Don't take my word for it ask anyone from Europe your guys couldn't hit a barn door. Your guys flew over they went in their shelters. Our guys flew over they clapped. They could tell the difference in the engines!
@RichMichael1980 You are a funny stereotypical. Where you there when the mustangs were flying right over your head? Just so you know, the P-51 mustang was 10x better then the spitfire. We were the ones who ended WWII. Was it Britain? No. Britain got its ass handed to it on a golden platter in WWI. Sure they did well in WWII, but we did better ;)
@RichMichael1980 Who provided the bulk of the manpower, did the most damage, hauled the most bombs, and had the higher percentage of air kills? America. I'm not saying we were inherently superior to the Brits, but at least give credit where it's due. FYI, the Mustang was powered by a British Merlin engine, so there wouldn't have been a difference in the sound. Also, they probably couldn't have hit a barnyard door, but they sure as hell could hit Berlin, Munich, and Cologne.
Interestingly, the famed P-51 Mustang fighter plane has its roots in Germany. After all, let's be honest, it was designed by German immigrant Edgar Schmued.
to me the Mustang actually looks like it has one foot in the Jet age and is still a prop aircraft... I can only imagine how wonderful it must have been to fly. Sitting still it looks like it is going fast..i am always amazed at is sensuous beauty. Wow!!
@giannivee1 The fact that is was fast and strong enough to actually face up against the very jet that was feared by European Theater fighters, and to fight the "All Powerful" Mitzubishi Zeros. I think it really made a good foothold in superfast, super strong fighters for future generations.
It was the USAAF and the daylight bombing campaign over Germany that forced the Luftwaffe to take to the skies to defend Germany, and were decimated by the USAAF, not the RAF.
The Spitfire itself didn't even hhave the range to fly over Germany to handle those missions until around December of 1944 when the Mk.XIV had the extra fuel tank installed to reach Berlin.
This is the reason the Luftwaffe couldn't challenge the D_Day invasion forces, because of their numbers badly depleted by then.
@THUD086 Indeed. There was heated discussion re this and the US sticking to daylight and the RAF to night bombings. which turned out to both their advantage as they don't give a breathing space to the LW. the Germans were so short of pilots that Galland uses the night fighter pilots in the hope of "as well as'' result. Instead he got a "neither nor". US daylight bombing was nearly derailed in the appearance of the 262s wherein Spaatz was screaming for its pilots to do something/anything
@CheckMySix definitely. would an english producer concentrate on american battles? would a german one llikewise concentrate on british? it depends on whose producing. The BoB produced some of the WW2 great fliers, English or German alike. Churchill was never so right when he said that "never was so much owed by so many to so few".
As I said before they decided to call it "Dogfights" Not American Dogfights so I would expect to see a balanced Overveiw from the perpective of all the nations taking part.
We all think our nations exploits are the best but based on Kill Ratio then the Germans were the best,Having the highest scoring Aces of WW2 or Giora"Hawkeye" Epstein of the Israeli Air Force for being the highest scoring Post war Jet Ace.
They are all Brave Men who deserve to have their stories told.
@CheckMySix Sir: the name denotes itself. HISTORY CHANNEL. Title of program. Dogfights. Produced where? US of A.
On your comment re kill ratio, of course Germany has the highest kills. But have you considered how long they got them? Hans Marseille got 25 kills after 150 sorties, Hartmann bagged his 25th after 120 or so sorties, both in target rich environment. R.S. Johnson bagged his 25th after 90 sorties. And sometimes he complains that the LW were playing hide and seek.
Anyway as I originally stated I do Love the "Dogfights" series and I even made a Movie Homage to it using IL2 Sturmovik and I also made the Soundtrack.
@CheckMySix No sir. there no win-lose situation here. Just a free exchange of ideas, opinion and such to enlighten us armchair aces. Roger, will see your upload. Ciao
@CheckMySix and had Johnson opted for a second tour, he might also bought it as in later stage, the jugs drew as what pilots termed "the most dreadful mission", i.e. flak suppression runs. they lost more pilots in this way than in aerial combat.
and by the way, the other side has their stories told likewise. Galland, Knoke, Sakai.It just turned out that Martin Caidin and Bantam was from the good ol US of A .He-he
@hunkkisable By your name, it indicates that you're an Aussie? My boy, were it not for the 1st US Marine div. you in down under would be using chopsticks for your meal ha-ha-ha. Ny the way, I've read Duel of the eagles, by pete townsend, the first and the last by Galland. Samurai by Saburo Sakai. I have, the ME 109, the Fork tailed Devil P-38, The p-51 bomber escort books by various authors, Bantam edition. You, what you have or read? Now, i did not started calling you names, did I?
Also. take note. The Spitfire Mk I PR Type F was an interim "super-long-range" version which entered service in July 1940, pending the Type D. The Type F carried a 30 gal fuel tank under each wing, plus a 29 gal tank in the rear fuselage, as well as having an enlarged oil tank under the nose. It was a useful enough improvement that nearly all existing Type Bs and Type Cs were eventually converted to the Type F standard. Operating from East Anglia it was able to reach, and return from Berlin.
The K14 Gyro Gunsight they suggest in this show was a first for the P51, There is no mention it was the Britsh that first produced the 'Ferranti Gyro Sight Mk IIc' & was used in the production of Spitfires. It was developed in the UK 1941. After experiments began in 1939 the first production gyro gunsight was the British Mark I, and prototypes were tested in a Supermarine Spitfire and the turret of a Boulton Paul Defiant in the early part of that year. The K14 is a direct copy of this design.
ok now we all go on about how fabalous this plane was, which indeed it was, but it wasnt invincable like they make it out in this show (they never show it getting shot down which is crap!), yes it had speed maneuverability & range, however the Spitfire XIV (1944) was faster, more maneuverable at all altitudes, much better armed & had higher climb rate, (go & research it) ok now that said the P51 obviously had the range which was needed for to begin with but later the XIV came into its own.
@MrStig691 The Germans usually avoid a tight spot by diving as they were familiar with it when tangling with the spitfires. the Germans were usually bagged by the 47s when they dive. R.S. Johnson encountered one tough German pilot. In his words "the Jerry was good, one of the very best I've encountered, but the dive was his mistake. NEVER DID THEY LEARN! When the jug points its nose down, it ran for the ground" Needless to say, he bagged the German.
p51 my favourite! followed by radial engined FW190 ..but my all time favourite Mustang is the late "Galopping Ghost" Jimmy Leeward had such a sweet plane.."RIP Blue skies Jimmy Fly on!"
The dominance was due to pilot quality. When pitting a later P-51 against a late model FW190, the difference was due to the skill of the pilot (and to some degree, luck)
With that said, I still think that the P-51 was a superb fighter, even if I love the F4U
@1bearcatf8f yea i understand it was more versatile but it still doesnt answer the question of who was a better dogfighter for eg the spitfire was one of the few aircraft that cud turn with a a6m zero
@rafwarrior The Spitfire was hardly used in the pacific actually I dont think it was.Mainly the US Army air Corps,USN,USMC and the flying tiger's.but the Zero had no armour and it was the most agile of all WW2 fighter's
@1bearcatf8f well not the spitfire but its carrier bourne cousin the seafire which was basically the same. the british did have a fleet in the pacific and fought battles but their battles were overshadowed by the us battles in the pacific and the RAF in europe and africa. yea it was the zero was insanely agile and the seafire could turn with it
ive flown and its all instinct no dog fights of course but it takes balls that i havent got becuase when something goes wrong you got to get it right or people die
@ariecbf109 oh.really? hmm i wonder how did they gain air superiority in europe and the pacific during ww2. and i checked out ur channel. its full of SHIT :)
@jomardomingo77 I would like to hear from Ral. Known as Germany's last ace. He was credited with 70 kills. He lives in the USA now. He was shot down 3 times himself and in one episode broke his back but survived. He has flown The Mustang and the lightening as well as the Me 109 and the German Jet.
I love to hear the pilots reminisce, I guess because they were so brave and really knew how to fly, kinda like it was instinct, not like a video game. Not that today's pilots are bad at all. I suppose it has to do with respect and gratitude.
bottom line; the war is over. you guys can re-fight the war in the comment box on youtube all day, with arguments about this allied plane vs that allied plane....blah blah blah.
while you guys fluff yourselfs up thinking your uber-109 is gonna SMOKE my piper cub...my guy on the ground with a MANPAD just fired...enjoy your walk home
The Lightning's ceiling is 2,000 feet higher than the Mustang's and it's rate of climb is 50% faster, which means the P38 can get above the P51 and dive on it, same tactic used against the Zero.
@JPStrikesBack Can you explain to me please why they would leave the Mustangs unpainted? I would have thought the metal glinting would make them easier to be seen.
@Riyun72 I hadn't thought of that at all, but I assume it's because the metal is stainless steel and does not hold paint well. Weight might be another consideration. Finally, whatever problem glinting metal might have caused, it just wasn't a big problem, at least in northern Europe. I was in the US Army in norther Germany and it was almost always cloudy.
@Riyun72 I hadn't thought of that at all, but I assume it's because the metal is stainless steel and does not hold paint well. Weight might be another consideration. Finally, whatever problem glinting metal might have caused, it just wasn't a big problem, at least in northern Europe. I was in the US Army in northern Germany and it was almost always cloudy.
@Riyun72 I did a Google search for "P51 images." Most are unpainted, but some are. I kind of thing that the images you see of the unpainted planes simply make better pictures, so the people who print them prefer them to the more drably painted planes.
@Riyun72 My brother tells me that the pictures you see of P51s in peace time are shiny because they are polished. During the war, they weren't. They were much more grey in color.
@JPStrikesBack of all the US warbirds, the P-38L is the drag racer. It has the fastest acceleration. The P-38s handled the german planes well, it has no problem turning with it using the technique "lockheed stomp", wherein the pilot would retard other engine while going full throttle on the other with light rudder action to get into the firing envelope. this is when they get bounced. But when they are the once attacking, it's usually boom and zoom tactic, same they used on zeros
@burjegol the only trouble the 38s encountered in ETO is the fuel (allisons not matched with british avgas) and its lack of 2 stage supercharging wherein its performance fell above 20K altitude. also, first 38 models don't have pressurized cockpit, a big disadvantage over the skies of Europe
@redbaron785 sir, the P-38: was fitted with dive brakes to avoid entering early in the compressibility.
This is the ongoing talk till now. many proclaim the p-51 as queen of the sky, and others says it was the jug (p-47). this is still unresolved till now, and it would be better to leave it at that.
the only thing we can safely say is that, these warbirds, 51s, 38s, 47s, F4Us, F6Fs, the dominated the opposition when they entered combat.
@redbaron785 at the beginning of the conflict, only the F4F and P-40 hold the fort till the cavalry arrives. The warhawks could handle the zero well, and in fact
Chennault had forwarded info to the USAAC on how to handle the nimble zero yet it was not dessiminated to concerned pilots. The AVG were warned "Never, ever, engage the zero in a dogfight." BNZ tactics were used. On the navy side, the inferior F4F handled the zero by using the ingenious "Thatch weave". but usually it's BNZ
@dmax631 I suggest if you're going to call someone out on a fact check, do yourself first. yes the Brits ordered it, but they hated it as a fighter, because with the ALLISON engine originally used, it sucked at high-altitude. It was only after the RR Merlin was used that it's true potential was unleashed on the Luftwaffe, until then it was mostly used as an easy-to-shoot-down fighter-bomber
P51 being superior is just propaganda. It was a great plane by but had it short coming like any other type. Listen to Skip Holm interview and what he has to say about Bf 109 and P51. A guy who acctually flies both of them!
@MrFrank8675309 It depends. The Mustang was far faster than the early spitfire models but the "Spit" caught up.
The mark 14 Model, for example, could fly just as fast as a P-51D and later models were a hair faster.
According to RAF pilots who flew both aircraft, the Mustang could pull a faster diving turn and shake off a Spitfire which could pull a tighter and steeper turn. I'd say they for the most part were fairly equal(the later models of either one) though I'd take a '51 over a Spit any day.
@MrFrank8675309 Again, it depends on what model vs what model. The P-47C or D for example was faster any of the early Spitfires(even the mark 14) in level flight(433 MPH vs 375-425 Mph for the Spitfire) and was known to be uncatchable by anything but a P-51 in a dive.
The Spitfire seems to have the better climb rate, but the P-47 was not far behind on that score.
The P-47 had a better rate of roll and above 15,000 ft could turn with any ME-109 or FW-190.
@sackitt16 R.S Johnson went with a mock dogfight with a spit early 1943. the spit left him like standing still on a climb. Yet, he impressed the brit pilot with his maneuver. he could not turn with the spit, he did the barrel roll, flat skid in turn and face the spit with his eight guns. later, when the jug was fitted with a paddle blade, he encountered a spit and signalled a fast climb. the jug kept pace with the spit.
@burjegol he may have impressed the spit pilot but who was the better? the jug may have kept pace with climb with the spit at much higher altitudes but lower down the spit would *always* leave it standing with a climb & speed paddle blade or not
@sackitt16 Dom Gentile of the famed 4th FG was caught on the deck with a FW 190. He blasted 2 of its comrades and running out of ammo, was flying for his life with the 3rd FW intent on blasting him out of the sky. He outflew the german, shooting til it also run out of ammo and Gentile was able to run away to fight another day. A polish pilot who borrowed Johnson's plane was seen on the deck with a 109, matching it turn for turn. the jug's guns jammed and the polish want to ram the 109
@sackitt16 Beg to differ . of all the allied warbirds, none could match the jug in a dive. 7 ton against the 51's 4.5, 2000 hp vs the 51s 1470. Even the F4U4 has trouble catching up with the jug in a dive.
@burjegol research the Tempest & in fact it has been said to be at certain altitudes the fatstest diver, its not just about weight, its a matter of balance. The Napier Sabre could produce 5,500 hp for the Tempest, & the aircraft weighed 11,400 lb, where as the the P-47D with its R-2800-59 producing 2,535 hp with an aircraft weight of 17,500 lb how do you think thay would fair in a dive? With almost double the horse power the tempest would certainly give the Jug a run for its money.
@TheJimiZappa I was tempted to check and this was the findings. Tempest Mk V. Sabre Mk IIA engine is rated at 2235 hp (the Mk VI was fitted with Sabre V 2340 hp engine). max speed 435 @ 19,000 ft. max T/O weight @ 11,400 #. Compared to P-47D. PW R-2800 rated @ 2535 hp. Max speed 433 mph @ 30,000 ft. max T/O weight 17,500 #.
Now, I don't think the Tempest can outdive the jug with this performance. I beg to differ from your stats which states the Sabre could produce 5,500 hp.
@burjegol Tempest V 4,000 RPM, The P47 2700 RPM. The Tempest V performance was for the engine at 3700 rpm and 9 lb boost. The Sabre was eventually cleared for wartime emergency rating of 3850 rpm at 13 lb boost much higher performance. a Me 262 pilot, said: "the Messerschmitt Me 262's most dangerous opponent was the Hawker Tempest extremely fast at low altitudes, highly-agile and heavily-armed. high acceleration Jug could eventually build up faster in a dive but loose its control
@TheJimiZappa We were discussing about the jug vee tempest in a dive, not in a level flight. the jug does not loose control in a high speed but its control freezes as it approach the compressibility zone. R.S. Johnson once pit the jug in a high speed dive from high altitude and described that its control froze until it reached lower altitudes where air is denser. and after all these rpm and engine boost, the sabre V is still pegged at 2340 hp?
@TheJimiZappa And yeah, the tempest is dangerous at low altitude for the 262s. But they were usually caught in their landing approach where they were vulnerable at low speeds. so then is the p-51s, 47s, 38s, spits. they were big trouble for the 262s while on landing approach. but, adolf galland was caught by a jug in high altitude, at high speed while maneuvering, so did chuck yaeger who bagged the 262 in his mustang.
Anyone else think The History Channel needs to dump all the stupid ass alien B.S. and get back to stuff like this? They are going the way of MTV these days. *VOMITS*
The P-51 Mustang: faster than even the jets in a power dive, went farther than any other fighter in the war and could climb higher than almost all other airplanes.
The P-51H would have topped even the planes that Germany hoped to field at the end of the war.
Like the horse after which it is named, It was tough, could turn on a dime and give you back nine cents change and out-run,out-climb and out-shoot the bad guys.
Even the luftwaffe's greatest aces still say it had no equal. GO P-51 MUSTANG!!!
@sackitt16 One more american idiot. Watch this about "superiority" of P-51. Skip Holm has flown all this warbirds. h t t p://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=TFl8X4y9-94 So he can compare.
@sackitt16 P51 was not faster than Me 262, there are reports of 262's breaking the sound barrier on atleast five occasions during its operational career. Generally P51 was able to beat the 262 only when vulnerable on take-off or landing. P51H is just speculation. The FW 190 D in considered by many to have been the best overall fighter of WW2. P51 was slightly faster than some of the opponents but didn't turn very well at all. 6 hr. flight time and large numbers made it effective.
@ariecbf109 God, I guess you were either from Denmark, or Norway lol. Why are people from your nations so dumb? Are you drinking water with heavy metals in it?
@yuv06 The large air is underneath because of the P-51's in-line engine. It allowed the airplane to be streamlined while still being supplied with more that enough air for cooling the engine and for power.
In my opinion the P-51D and the FW-190-D9 model were the best piston engines fighters of world war two.
Badger071 2 minutes ago
I agree. I recommend that you read some WW2 history regarding aircraft prototypes. The axis had interesting designs and ideas. The P51-D was an incredible machine, far more advanced than any of its counterparts but what if Germany had its development facilities outside war territory and what if the Japanese had a better manufacturing infrastructure. All will remain in the "what if", but one thing is true, what really helped the Allies win the war was that they were the ones who invaded.
Edu19san 6 days ago
funny theres no episode for the me109 showing what it achieved, meh and also amusing is the scenarios displayed here. pure american view and only american victories. but what do you expect from a 'USA' glorifiying 'history' (irony) show.
TheJBurner 1 week ago
@TheJBurner 1. Winners write the history books, 2. The general consensus even among former Axis nations was that the American P-51 was the apex of the evolution of propellor driven aircraft, or the generation 1 fighters. It was, for a fact, simply better than anything the germans, japanese, or italians could possibly throw at it, even the me262, although that was mostly b/c hitler was stupid and made the thing a bomber, not a dog-fighter.
MrShocktrupr 1 week ago
just compare the lists of the aces you find from WW2... and compare Germany and the USA Aces... well, you have to scroll down a long way in the German list until you get to those pilots who where on the level of the best US-pilots... -the greatest power of the USA is selective apperception... ;)
espressoschmeckt 1 week ago
@espressoschmeckt
Yeaa, I call it American ingenuity (I'm not American btw). Not to stereotype, but mainly 'farm' or 'country' boys who grew up just going out working on the equipment, playing out in the field, trees, etc, wondering, dreaming and just being curious which contributed to their creativity and ability to adapt and react.
The same types who modified, cars, innovate, etc which fueled the American industrial might and fight. Its still there but the system is just messed now.
at1212b 1 week ago
The Mustang wouldn't have been what it was without the R/R Merlin
navnig 1 week ago
@navnig The Allison was a great engine at low altitudes for which the Mustang was originally designed and could outrun Spitfires and ME 109's with the Allison engine at those lower altitudes but as the war progressed they needed the higher altitude engine to reach the bombers. The Rolls Royce Merlin was a good engine but the actual engine that is in the P-51 is the American made Packard V-1650 which was an updated and improved variant developed from the Rolls Royce Merlin..........
lander4545 8 hours ago
@navnig .............the Packard engine also went into Spitfires,Mosquitos and Lancasters.
lander4545 8 hours ago
Are citizens allowed to have mustangs now? Cuz if so i want one!
G3CK0117 1 week ago
i want a p51 mustang! :(
zahifyi 2 weeks ago
WHOOP! Im making a 1/32 scale Tamiya model of one of this group. Awesome model, fantastic aircraft! =D
TheFunkhouser 2 weeks ago
@TheFunkhouser Just purchased the rivell 1:48 brother.. Want your advice: Red tails or???
commandosolo2009 1 week ago
Mustang= One of the best allied fighter planes of them all, just ONE of them. :3
TheRaackMan 2 weeks ago
@TheRaackMan My opinion. Spitfire, cannons, good speed and turning. Actually better. than P51. It maneuver better also. Mustang tend to catch fire. Some shamefully fell to Ki-43 Oscars over China. Finally only relying on Boom and zoom tactics to steal kills. one to one, a P51 lose to Spitfire
sarasein 1 week ago 2
this is the best p51 mustang video i have ever fricking seen
kiblonight 2 weeks ago
@kiblonight then you should watch REDTAIL~~! its all flying mustang!
zlloke6 2 weeks ago
Not 43000 fighters?
Who they shootin at?
Japs?
RichMichael1980 2 weeks ago
@RichMichael1980 Christ I thought America were world police again. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but your P-51 and all your bombers were a bunch of shite. Don't take my word for it ask anyone from Europe your guys couldn't hit a barn door. Your guys flew over they went in their shelters. Our guys flew over they clapped. They could tell the difference in the engines!
RichMichael1980 2 weeks ago
@RichMichael1980 You are a funny stereotypical. Where you there when the mustangs were flying right over your head? Just so you know, the P-51 mustang was 10x better then the spitfire. We were the ones who ended WWII. Was it Britain? No. Britain got its ass handed to it on a golden platter in WWI. Sure they did well in WWII, but we did better ;)
TheRaackMan 2 weeks ago
@TheRaackMan actually Russia ended ww2 not us
Bors9 1 week ago
@RichMichael1980 Who provided the bulk of the manpower, did the most damage, hauled the most bombs, and had the higher percentage of air kills? America. I'm not saying we were inherently superior to the Brits, but at least give credit where it's due. FYI, the Mustang was powered by a British Merlin engine, so there wouldn't have been a difference in the sound. Also, they probably couldn't have hit a barnyard door, but they sure as hell could hit Berlin, Munich, and Cologne.
mongorians22 2 weeks ago
Seriously is this a joke? This thing could have panned a Spitfire?
RichMichael1980 2 weeks ago
P51 Mustang, Cadillac of the sky!
LukeCageforhire 2 weeks ago
White smoke = radiator damage. Nice gunning =)
bigbengamer 3 weeks ago
Interestingly, the famed P-51 Mustang fighter plane has its roots in Germany. After all, let's be honest, it was designed by German immigrant Edgar Schmued.
Marcfj 3 weeks ago 2
this footage looks fake to me, like it was produced using computer graphics.
MustNotRead 4 weeks ago
@MustNotRead If that was a joke it wasn't very funny, no offense.
Mike82A1 4 weeks ago
@Mike82A1
you laughed :@
MustNotRead 4 weeks ago
@MustNotRead because it was... This show doesnt have enough money to shoot down real planes?
ducknboy 4 weeks ago
@ducknboy I believe he was joking. If not, he missed the part where it says "With state of the art computer animation" at the beginning lol.
HalcyonSkies 4 weeks ago
The Mustang also managed to shoot down MiG-17's.
shaider1982 1 month ago
The Mustang also managed to shoot down MiG-17's.
shaider1982 1 month ago
P51 Mustang is F-22 nowadays!
M4A108 1 month ago
to me the Mustang actually looks like it has one foot in the Jet age and is still a prop aircraft... I can only imagine how wonderful it must have been to fly. Sitting still it looks like it is going fast..i am always amazed at is sensuous beauty. Wow!!
giannivee1 1 month ago
@giannivee1 The fact that is was fast and strong enough to actually face up against the very jet that was feared by European Theater fighters, and to fight the "All Powerful" Mitzubishi Zeros. I think it really made a good foothold in superfast, super strong fighters for future generations.
omegaprim 1 month ago in playlist Dogfights
Why all the bickering over the RAF & USAAC? American plane, British engine. Bosh!
vonsmith 1 month ago
@vonsmith And designed by a German. :D
Mike32587 1 month ago
@Mike32587 Happy days! And bosh was no reference to a German...
vonsmith 1 month ago
@vonsmith Edgar Schumed? Also, the Merlin Engine made the difference.
shaider1982 1 month ago
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@vonsmith Edgar Schumed? Also, the Merlin Engine made the difference.
shaider1982 1 month ago
It was the USAAF and the daylight bombing campaign over Germany that forced the Luftwaffe to take to the skies to defend Germany, and were decimated by the USAAF, not the RAF.
The Spitfire itself didn't even hhave the range to fly over Germany to handle those missions until around December of 1944 when the Mk.XIV had the extra fuel tank installed to reach Berlin.
This is the reason the Luftwaffe couldn't challenge the D_Day invasion forces, because of their numbers badly depleted by then.
THUD086 1 month ago
@THUD086 Indeed. There was heated discussion re this and the US sticking to daylight and the RAF to night bombings. which turned out to both their advantage as they don't give a breathing space to the LW. the Germans were so short of pilots that Galland uses the night fighter pilots in the hope of "as well as'' result. Instead he got a "neither nor". US daylight bombing was nearly derailed in the appearance of the 262s wherein Spaatz was screaming for its pilots to do something/anything
burjegol 1 month ago
whats the real name of bandet?
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gs05jdt 1 month ago
I absolutely love the "Dogfights" series
BUT for some reason the most decisive aerial Battle of WWII does'nt even get a mention
"The Battle of Britain" had its fair share of Dogfights which established some of the greatest Fighter Pilots of any era.
Galland,Molders,Hartmann,Bader,Doe,Townsend just to name a Few.
It seems that yet again that an American made series only wants to consentrate on American
Battles and Glories.
They could have featured "Eagle Squadron" if nothing else.
CheckMySix 1 month ago
@CheckMySix definitely. would an english producer concentrate on american battles? would a german one llikewise concentrate on british? it depends on whose producing. The BoB produced some of the WW2 great fliers, English or German alike. Churchill was never so right when he said that "never was so much owed by so many to so few".
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol
Generally British and European Documetries tend to cover a wider spectrum and more Un-Biased.
and at the end of the day its called "Dogfights" NOT American Dogfights.
The fact is they chose for what ever reason to omit one of the Major Aerial Battles
in History which for a series called "Dogfights" seems a bit naive.
It would Have been nice to see BoB featured in some way if only to Aknowledge the Sacrifice of the RAF Pilots.
BoB RAF Pilots were from many nations inc US.
CheckMySix 1 month ago
@CheckMySix No comment as I've not seen british nor german documentaries regarding the air war over europe.
But americans, being americans, will lift up the exploits of its citizens to show the world they are the best. Could you blame them?
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol
As I said before they decided to call it "Dogfights" Not American Dogfights so I would expect to see a balanced Overveiw from the perpective of all the nations taking part.
We all think our nations exploits are the best but based on Kill Ratio then the Germans were the best,Having the highest scoring Aces of WW2 or Giora"Hawkeye" Epstein of the Israeli Air Force for being the highest scoring Post war Jet Ace.
They are all Brave Men who deserve to have their stories told.
CheckMySix 1 month ago
@CheckMySix Sir: the name denotes itself. HISTORY CHANNEL. Title of program. Dogfights. Produced where? US of A.
On your comment re kill ratio, of course Germany has the highest kills. But have you considered how long they got them? Hans Marseille got 25 kills after 150 sorties, Hartmann bagged his 25th after 120 or so sorties, both in target rich environment. R.S. Johnson bagged his 25th after 90 sorties. And sometimes he complains that the LW were playing hide and seek.
burjegol 1 month ago
Hi burjegol
OK You Win
Anyway as I originally stated I do Love the "Dogfights" series and I even made a Movie Homage to it using IL2 Sturmovik and I also made the Soundtrack.
Its called "Pacific Duel"
Press my Tag for Link in My uploads
Hope you like it and please comment[Be Nice. lol]
Cheers
Keith :-)
CheckMySix 1 month ago
@CheckMySix No sir. there no win-lose situation here. Just a free exchange of ideas, opinion and such to enlighten us armchair aces. Roger, will see your upload. Ciao
burjegol 1 month ago
@CheckMySix and had Johnson opted for a second tour, he might also bought it as in later stage, the jugs drew as what pilots termed "the most dreadful mission", i.e. flak suppression runs. they lost more pilots in this way than in aerial combat.
and by the way, the other side has their stories told likewise. Galland, Knoke, Sakai.It just turned out that Martin Caidin and Bantam was from the good ol US of A .He-he
burjegol 1 month ago
this old folks are bad ass..
hunkkisable 1 month ago
@hunkkisable By your name, it indicates that you're an Aussie? My boy, were it not for the 1st US Marine div. you in down under would be using chopsticks for your meal ha-ha-ha. Ny the way, I've read Duel of the eagles, by pete townsend, the first and the last by Galland. Samurai by Saburo Sakai. I have, the ME 109, the Fork tailed Devil P-38, The p-51 bomber escort books by various authors, Bantam edition. You, what you have or read? Now, i did not started calling you names, did I?
burjegol 1 month ago
@hunkkisable My fault sir. this reply was intended to that Aussiephil99 fellow.
burjegol 1 month ago
Aah history written by the victors, we meet again.
This series is flag waving taken to the utmost.
Fox News, but in history form.
TheDarwiniser 1 month ago
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Also. take note. The Spitfire Mk I PR Type F was an interim "super-long-range" version which entered service in July 1940, pending the Type D. The Type F carried a 30 gal fuel tank under each wing, plus a 29 gal tank in the rear fuselage, as well as having an enlarged oil tank under the nose. It was a useful enough improvement that nearly all existing Type Bs and Type Cs were eventually converted to the Type F standard. Operating from East Anglia it was able to reach, and return from Berlin.
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The K14 Gyro Gunsight they suggest in this show was a first for the P51, There is no mention it was the Britsh that first produced the 'Ferranti Gyro Sight Mk IIc' & was used in the production of Spitfires. It was developed in the UK 1941. After experiments began in 1939 the first production gyro gunsight was the British Mark I, and prototypes were tested in a Supermarine Spitfire and the turret of a Boulton Paul Defiant in the early part of that year. The K14 is a direct copy of this design.
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ok now we all go on about how fabalous this plane was, which indeed it was, but it wasnt invincable like they make it out in this show (they never show it getting shot down which is crap!), yes it had speed maneuverability & range, however the Spitfire XIV (1944) was faster, more maneuverable at all altitudes, much better armed & had higher climb rate, (go & research it) ok now that said the P51 obviously had the range which was needed for to begin with but later the XIV came into its own.
TheJimiZappa 1 month ago
Unmatched? Except by the Spit, the 190, and several others I take it.
MrStig691 1 month ago
@MrStig691 The Germans usually avoid a tight spot by diving as they were familiar with it when tangling with the spitfires. the Germans were usually bagged by the 47s when they dive. R.S. Johnson encountered one tough German pilot. In his words "the Jerry was good, one of the very best I've encountered, but the dive was his mistake. NEVER DID THEY LEARN! When the jug points its nose down, it ran for the ground" Needless to say, he bagged the German.
burjegol 1 month ago
p51 my favourite! followed by radial engined FW190 ..but my all time favourite Mustang is the late "Galopping Ghost" Jimmy Leeward had such a sweet plane.."RIP Blue skies Jimmy Fly on!"
RFKFANTS67 1 month ago
Anyone know where I can get the music from this show?
starflame34 1 month ago
i hate the mustang the fw190 was better and bf109 and the me262 the p51 is overrated
just an opinion of mine
677453 2 months ago
@677453 Lol if the Mustang is overrated than why was it so dominate to german plane's???
1bearcatf8f 2 months ago
@1bearcatf8f
The dominance was due to pilot quality. When pitting a later P-51 against a late model FW190, the difference was due to the skill of the pilot (and to some degree, luck)
With that said, I still think that the P-51 was a superb fighter, even if I love the F4U
mkcsu27 2 months ago
And to think, this technology was ONLY 70 years ago (give or take up to 10 years)
bogieman987 2 months ago
i disagree the spitfire could beat it in a turning fight plus there is the fw-190...still an awesome beast tho..a pure beauty
rafwarrior 2 months ago
@rafwarrior The P-51s design was way more versitile than the spitfire,The P-51 was one of the best dogfighter's and was a great fighter/bomber
1bearcatf8f 2 months ago
@1bearcatf8f yea i understand it was more versatile but it still doesnt answer the question of who was a better dogfighter for eg the spitfire was one of the few aircraft that cud turn with a a6m zero
rafwarrior 2 months ago
@rafwarrior The Spitfire was hardly used in the pacific actually I dont think it was.Mainly the US Army air Corps,USN,USMC and the flying tiger's.but the Zero had no armour and it was the most agile of all WW2 fighter's
1bearcatf8f 2 months ago
@1bearcatf8f well not the spitfire but its carrier bourne cousin the seafire which was basically the same. the british did have a fleet in the pacific and fought battles but their battles were overshadowed by the us battles in the pacific and the RAF in europe and africa. yea it was the zero was insanely agile and the seafire could turn with it
rafwarrior 2 months ago
are the p-51s the planes in Saving Private Ryan?
Dragonschain 2 months ago
@Dragonschain yup
rafwarrior 2 months ago
I wish Hollywood would make a movie about this.
namznej 2 months ago
@namznej they are, Red Tails!
PrestonMonocPhoto 2 months ago
The Rolls Royce of the sky!
spythers 2 months ago in playlist WW2 :P51 DOGFIGHTS
wait a german made the p51
MrFelt1000 2 months ago
@MrFelt1000 no the americans did
677453 2 months ago
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7erikgiles 2 months ago
"Shoot the bastards down"
namznej 2 months ago
Bryan is a stud.
namznej 2 months ago
WOOOOOOOT so exciting!!!!!!!!
lame2cool 3 months ago
I want to see Red Tails looks pretty good
1998disco72 3 months ago
@1998disco72 it was fun. but i thought it was gonna be the P-51D mustangs. not Bs or Cs. :(
USSWISCONSIN64 3 months ago
@1998disco72 so do i
i came to this vid right after watching the trailer
1chuckjones 2 months ago
There is nothing so sweet as the P-51 Munson.
Ariel62073 3 months ago
ive flown and its all instinct no dog fights of course but it takes balls that i havent got becuase when something goes wrong you got to get it right or people die
hipshot695 3 months ago
This movie is a total lie! Pro - american propaganda!
ariecbf109 3 months ago
@ariecbf109 oh.really? hmm i wonder how did they gain air superiority in europe and the pacific during ww2. and i checked out ur channel. its full of SHIT :)
jomardomingo77 3 months ago
@jomardomingo77 I would like to hear from Ral. Known as Germany's last ace. He was credited with 70 kills. He lives in the USA now. He was shot down 3 times himself and in one episode broke his back but survived. He has flown The Mustang and the lightening as well as the Me 109 and the German Jet.
norb1937 3 months ago
@norb1937 Wow never knew that! That is pretty bad ass. To survive being shot down 4 times.
1998disco72 3 months ago
I love to hear the pilots reminisce, I guess because they were so brave and really knew how to fly, kinda like it was instinct, not like a video game. Not that today's pilots are bad at all. I suppose it has to do with respect and gratitude.
debzeppeliniv 3 months ago
bottom line; the war is over. you guys can re-fight the war in the comment box on youtube all day, with arguments about this allied plane vs that allied plane....blah blah blah.
while you guys fluff yourselfs up thinking your uber-109 is gonna SMOKE my piper cub...my guy on the ground with a MANPAD just fired...enjoy your walk home
cannabotany 3 months ago
Riyun72 are you the one they are talking about in the video?
sethc2001 3 months ago
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sethc2001 3 months ago
got to love old crow it goes to the reading airshow every year in pennsylvania
jrxpod 4 months ago
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Fuck anyone that thinks this is a joke
jrxpod 4 months ago
This is such a joke.
Bobisawesome100 4 months ago
The Lightning's ceiling is 2,000 feet higher than the Mustang's and it's rate of climb is 50% faster, which means the P38 can get above the P51 and dive on it, same tactic used against the Zero.
JPStrikesBack 4 months ago
@JPStrikesBack Can you explain to me please why they would leave the Mustangs unpainted? I would have thought the metal glinting would make them easier to be seen.
Riyun72 4 months ago in playlist WW2 :P51 DOGFIGHTS
@Riyun72 I hadn't thought of that at all, but I assume it's because the metal is stainless steel and does not hold paint well. Weight might be another consideration. Finally, whatever problem glinting metal might have caused, it just wasn't a big problem, at least in northern Europe. I was in the US Army in norther Germany and it was almost always cloudy.
JPStrikesBack 4 months ago
@JPStrikesBack the metal is aluminum, stainless steel is too heavy
cooldaddyy 4 months ago
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@Riyun72 I hadn't thought of that at all, but I assume it's because the metal is stainless steel and does not hold paint well. Weight might be another consideration. Finally, whatever problem glinting metal might have caused, it just wasn't a big problem, at least in northern Europe. I was in the US Army in northern Germany and it was almost always cloudy.
JPStrikesBack 4 months ago
@Riyun72 I did a Google search for "P51 images." Most are unpainted, but some are. I kind of thing that the images you see of the unpainted planes simply make better pictures, so the people who print them prefer them to the more drably painted planes.
JPStrikesBack 4 months ago
@JPStrikesBack Thx for that, they really are still one of the coolest fighter planes ever built I think.
Riyun72 4 months ago
@Riyun72 My brother tells me that the pictures you see of P51s in peace time are shiny because they are polished. During the war, they weren't. They were much more grey in color.
JPStrikesBack 4 months ago
@Riyun72 it was unpainted to save weight. makes for more performance and range.
cooldaddyy 4 months ago
@JPStrikesBack of all the US warbirds, the P-38L is the drag racer. It has the fastest acceleration. The P-38s handled the german planes well, it has no problem turning with it using the technique "lockheed stomp", wherein the pilot would retard other engine while going full throttle on the other with light rudder action to get into the firing envelope. this is when they get bounced. But when they are the once attacking, it's usually boom and zoom tactic, same they used on zeros
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol the only trouble the 38s encountered in ETO is the fuel (allisons not matched with british avgas) and its lack of 2 stage supercharging wherein its performance fell above 20K altitude. also, first 38 models don't have pressurized cockpit, a big disadvantage over the skies of Europe
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol Yeah the p-38's prob was just its diving but all else it was an excellent fighter
redbaron785 1 month ago
@redbaron785 sir, the P-38: was fitted with dive brakes to avoid entering early in the compressibility.
This is the ongoing talk till now. many proclaim the p-51 as queen of the sky, and others says it was the jug (p-47). this is still unresolved till now, and it would be better to leave it at that.
the only thing we can safely say is that, these warbirds, 51s, 38s, 47s, F4Us, F6Fs, the dominated the opposition when they entered combat.
burjegol 1 month ago
@redbaron785 at the beginning of the conflict, only the F4F and P-40 hold the fort till the cavalry arrives. The warhawks could handle the zero well, and in fact
Chennault had forwarded info to the USAAC on how to handle the nimble zero yet it was not dessiminated to concerned pilots. The AVG were warned "Never, ever, engage the zero in a dogfight." BNZ tactics were used. On the navy side, the inferior F4F handled the zero by using the ingenious "Thatch weave". but usually it's BNZ
burjegol 1 month ago
@dmax631 I suggest if you're going to call someone out on a fact check, do yourself first. yes the Brits ordered it, but they hated it as a fighter, because with the ALLISON engine originally used, it sucked at high-altitude. It was only after the RR Merlin was used that it's true potential was unleashed on the Luftwaffe, until then it was mostly used as an easy-to-shoot-down fighter-bomber
slidemidwinter 4 months ago
Skip Holm was born during WW2, he didn't fly in it.
As for the P-51 not being the best, I'm not taking the word of those who didn't walk through fire with it.
Chuck Yeagar, Bud Mahurin, Glenn Eagleston, all top aces, all took on the ME-109 and FW-190 and kicked CARCUSS.
The FW-190 was a sluggish hunk of junk that never kept up with a mustang in a zoom climb, could always be out-turned and left behind in a dive.
Oh yeah, Glenn Eagleston took the Mustang to 650 MPH...IN A DIVE.
109, PUH-LEASE!
sackitt16 4 months ago
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P51 being superior is just propaganda. It was a great plane by but had it short coming like any other type. Listen to Skip Holm interview and what he has to say about Bf 109 and P51. A guy who acctually flies both of them!
Antonetzcu 4 months ago
What plane would win in a dogfight, the Mustang or the Spitfire?
MrFrank8675309 4 months ago
@MrFrank8675309 mustang because 109 and spitfire is just similar
MultiRob6 4 months ago
@MultiRob6 How are they similar?
MrFrank8675309 4 months ago
@MrFrank8675309 It depends. The Mustang was far faster than the early spitfire models but the "Spit" caught up.
The mark 14 Model, for example, could fly just as fast as a P-51D and later models were a hair faster.
According to RAF pilots who flew both aircraft, the Mustang could pull a faster diving turn and shake off a Spitfire which could pull a tighter and steeper turn. I'd say they for the most part were fairly equal(the later models of either one) though I'd take a '51 over a Spit any day.
sackitt16 4 months ago
@sackitt16 what if it where a thunderbolt vs spitfire?
MrFrank8675309 4 months ago
@MrFrank8675309 Again, it depends on what model vs what model. The P-47C or D for example was faster any of the early Spitfires(even the mark 14) in level flight(433 MPH vs 375-425 Mph for the Spitfire) and was known to be uncatchable by anything but a P-51 in a dive.
The Spitfire seems to have the better climb rate, but the P-47 was not far behind on that score.
The P-47 had a better rate of roll and above 15,000 ft could turn with any ME-109 or FW-190.
sackitt16 4 months ago
@sackitt16 R.S Johnson went with a mock dogfight with a spit early 1943. the spit left him like standing still on a climb. Yet, he impressed the brit pilot with his maneuver. he could not turn with the spit, he did the barrel roll, flat skid in turn and face the spit with his eight guns. later, when the jug was fitted with a paddle blade, he encountered a spit and signalled a fast climb. the jug kept pace with the spit.
burjegol 1 month ago
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TheJimiZappa 1 month ago
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@burjegol he may have impressed the spit pilot but who was the better? the jug may have kept pace with climb with the spit at much higher altitudes but lower down the spit would *always* leave it standing with a climb & speed paddle blade or not
TheJimiZappa 1 month ago
@sackitt16 Dom Gentile of the famed 4th FG was caught on the deck with a FW 190. He blasted 2 of its comrades and running out of ammo, was flying for his life with the 3rd FW intent on blasting him out of the sky. He outflew the german, shooting til it also run out of ammo and Gentile was able to run away to fight another day. A polish pilot who borrowed Johnson's plane was seen on the deck with a 109, matching it turn for turn. the jug's guns jammed and the polish want to ram the 109
burjegol 1 month ago
@sackitt16 Beg to differ . of all the allied warbirds, none could match the jug in a dive. 7 ton against the 51's 4.5, 2000 hp vs the 51s 1470. Even the F4U4 has trouble catching up with the jug in a dive.
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol research the Tempest & in fact it has been said to be at certain altitudes the fatstest diver, its not just about weight, its a matter of balance. The Napier Sabre could produce 5,500 hp for the Tempest, & the aircraft weighed 11,400 lb, where as the the P-47D with its R-2800-59 producing 2,535 hp with an aircraft weight of 17,500 lb how do you think thay would fair in a dive? With almost double the horse power the tempest would certainly give the Jug a run for its money.
TheJimiZappa 1 month ago
@TheJimiZappa I was tempted to check and this was the findings. Tempest Mk V. Sabre Mk IIA engine is rated at 2235 hp (the Mk VI was fitted with Sabre V 2340 hp engine). max speed 435 @ 19,000 ft. max T/O weight @ 11,400 #. Compared to P-47D. PW R-2800 rated @ 2535 hp. Max speed 433 mph @ 30,000 ft. max T/O weight 17,500 #.
Now, I don't think the Tempest can outdive the jug with this performance. I beg to differ from your stats which states the Sabre could produce 5,500 hp.
burjegol 1 month ago
@burjegol Tempest V 4,000 RPM, The P47 2700 RPM. The Tempest V performance was for the engine at 3700 rpm and 9 lb boost. The Sabre was eventually cleared for wartime emergency rating of 3850 rpm at 13 lb boost much higher performance. a Me 262 pilot, said: "the Messerschmitt Me 262's most dangerous opponent was the Hawker Tempest extremely fast at low altitudes, highly-agile and heavily-armed. high acceleration Jug could eventually build up faster in a dive but loose its control
TheJimiZappa 1 month ago
@TheJimiZappa We were discussing about the jug vee tempest in a dive, not in a level flight. the jug does not loose control in a high speed but its control freezes as it approach the compressibility zone. R.S. Johnson once pit the jug in a high speed dive from high altitude and described that its control froze until it reached lower altitudes where air is denser. and after all these rpm and engine boost, the sabre V is still pegged at 2340 hp?
burjegol 1 month ago
@TheJimiZappa And yeah, the tempest is dangerous at low altitude for the 262s. But they were usually caught in their landing approach where they were vulnerable at low speeds. so then is the p-51s, 47s, 38s, spits. they were big trouble for the 262s while on landing approach. but, adolf galland was caught by a jug in high altitude, at high speed while maneuvering, so did chuck yaeger who bagged the 262 in his mustang.
burjegol 1 month ago
@MrFrank8675309 Also the later P-47's got faster with new propellers staring with the D model.
The speed went up to 473 MPH in the M model for level flight and the the climb rate got better at low level.
The P-47 was also far more ruggedly made than the Spitfire and could take far greater battle damage.
So in the hands of a well-trained pilot(even a rookie), I'd say the P-47 would win against even a well flown Spitfire with a good pilot.
Still the Spit can turn better, so take your pick.
sackitt16 4 months ago
Anyone else think The History Channel needs to dump all the stupid ass alien B.S. and get back to stuff like this? They are going the way of MTV these days. *VOMITS*
vetitoe362 4 months ago
The P-51 Mustang: faster than even the jets in a power dive, went farther than any other fighter in the war and could climb higher than almost all other airplanes.
The P-51H would have topped even the planes that Germany hoped to field at the end of the war.
Like the horse after which it is named, It was tough, could turn on a dime and give you back nine cents change and out-run,out-climb and out-shoot the bad guys.
Even the luftwaffe's greatest aces still say it had no equal. GO P-51 MUSTANG!!!
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ariecbf109 4 months ago
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@sackitt16 One more american idiot. Watch this about "superiority" of P-51. Skip Holm has flown all this warbirds. h t t p://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=TFl8X4y9-94 So he can compare.
ariecbf109 4 months ago
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@sackitt16 P51 was not faster than Me 262, there are reports of 262's breaking the sound barrier on atleast five occasions during its operational career. Generally P51 was able to beat the 262 only when vulnerable on take-off or landing. P51H is just speculation. The FW 190 D in considered by many to have been the best overall fighter of WW2. P51 was slightly faster than some of the opponents but didn't turn very well at all. 6 hr. flight time and large numbers made it effective.
Antonetzcu 4 months ago
Six people don't know a classic war bird when they see one
flyfasterf22 5 months ago
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Is there a full video on the P38 out. I love that plane
DrJCCC20 5 months ago
Somewhere at 1:31 he says ''BASTARD OF MA MOMMEES''
MostwantedLover1 5 months ago
Yah!! Kill thos Nazi Bastards!!!
twistedyogert 5 months ago
layers!! all story is fairytale!! ))
ariecbf109 5 months ago
@ariecbf109 God, I guess you were either from Denmark, or Norway lol. Why are people from your nations so dumb? Are you drinking water with heavy metals in it?
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@Warpath2198 The same question to you. Why jewish fucking up americans? Because you americans drinking water with heavy metals in it?
ariecbf109 5 months ago
P-51's were SUPERIOR fighters and won WW-2. Thank God for P-51 pilots !!!
e081194eng 5 months ago
@e081194eng P-51 was good but not superior. Just admit it.
ariecbf109 5 months ago
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e081194eng 5 months ago
@ariecbf109 You don't know.
e081194eng 5 months ago
@e081194eng Ok. Just watch this then. I hope you know who Skip Holm is.
h t t p://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=TFl8X4y9-94
ariecbf109 5 months ago
@e081194eng Hear, Hear!
sackitt16 4 months ago
So much more validity to the words "the most famous" rather than "one of the most famous". This truly was the best fighter aircraft ever made.
Dexalicious 5 months ago
Yeah when the Brits took out the Alison and replaced it with the RR Merlin it really kicked Nazi Ass.
RaulMeatFactorys 5 months ago
@RaulMeatFactorys It could already kick ass before they stuck that engine in it. Alison P-51's flew though the entire war.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
LOVE DA FW190
RaulMeatFactorys 5 months ago
P-51,B-17,ME109,FW190,ME262,SPITFIRE,MITSUBISHI ZERO,TEMPEST, all just fascinating planes my great grandpa flew a YAK-9u
TheSovietninja2 5 months ago
The Bf109 and Me, two of the most beautiful planes ever build
hurius 5 months ago
Can anyone explain to me why the mustang has a large air scoope beneath the wings?
yuv06 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Historystartsnow
@yuv06 My bet is it is part of the cooling system.
Warpath2198 5 months ago
@yuv06 The large air is underneath because of the P-51's in-line engine. It allowed the airplane to be streamlined while still being supplied with more that enough air for cooling the engine and for power.
sackitt16 5 months ago
Forever endeared for putting the boot of freedom upon the neck of tyranny!
Glorious... Mighty! LEGENDARY!!!
trexx63 6 months ago
I wish they hadn't discontinued this show... :(
PaisGreenapple3 6 months ago
Yak-9 the best. =)
Klaxonn24 6 months ago
what happens when the british and americans get together, with a merli