One may better understand the video as a clash: extroversion-introversion, man-woman, white-black, audience-no audience, a somewhat more "pop" song-an "ancient" cry, performer looking at you-performer not looking at you+a lot viewpoints of her, modern shirt-timeless unidentified dress. Even the fact that the man sang first indicates the clash impetuosity-stoicism. Considering this artwork only feministic, is a blunt simplification. Art is miraculous, isn't it?
A sentence came to my mind while seeing this: men have people behind them, women must face alone the emptiness their life became, yet their silenced voice is louder then any men voices.
I was one of 50 students who watched and critiqued this video in class today and for once the room was at an absolute silence...totally hypnotized by the sounds heard,and amazed at how ones voice can capture so many minds...awesome video :)
@EzEpidemic52 The man on the video is the husband of the artist Shirin Neshat. The voice though belongs to Sharam Nazeri who is one of the most famous Iranian singers.
The female singer's anguished style is so haunting..a voice from many many centuries ago,straining for expression and never given an ear ever by the male dominated world..The conceptualization of this video is brilliant.
The way the voice richochets in the empty theater is such a strong symbolism for the unheard 50% of women population in Iran and many many other countries.
The female singer's anguished style is so haunting..a voice from many many centuries ago,straining for expression and never given an ear ever by the male dominated world..The conceptualization of this video is brilliant.
this is one of my all time favorite pieces of video installation and proved to be the precursor for my own experiments in video and video installation pieces.
I had the chance to see Sussan in concert in London at the Union chapel a few years ago. besides giving me goosebumps for most of the performance, she left my 2 friends and I speechless after wards!
If you look at these videos where they are installed they are on opposite sides of the room facing each other. and it is as if the man is singing to the woman and the woman is singing to the audience/man. I love to watch his facial expressions as she sings.
wow...i keep coming back to this piece...each time, a different feeling is invoked... this is a powerful piece of artwork that speaks in universal tones.
@biba2404, I think you are right, the complexity of gendered roles is a fluid thought that has universal value, Turbulent is a piece thats speak to all. This look from an Iranian woman speaks truth about the subjugation of all women. Great Work.
lyrics in most cases has the biggest role obviously after the voice .
singers like Hayedeh , Sima Bina and Googoosh made their Name and glory mainly of the lyrics , although one cannot disagree on overall suppression of women in Iran. you cannot even mumble the vocals that Deyhim sings. which makes it easier to forget . songs like that reminds people of memories bring their singer to life even after they pass away. props to all the people who dedicated something to the art .
Beautiful, wonderful, soulful, emotionally overwhelming. But can anyone tell me what he is singing about? Also what her words are about. I can read the visual information and feel the pain, but the words are they relevant? To disagree with an earlier poster, the male singer is aware of the other, he is listening with his back to his audience, making him audience too..
Moshkeleh Shirin Neshat ineh ke fekre mikoneh in ghanoonayi ke alan ba jomhooriyeh eslami oomadeh be farhangeh Irania vared shodeh and bahash rabeteh dareh. Jomhooriyeh eslami yeh doreyeh bi ahamiyateh tarikheh mast. Engar Shirin Neshat tahala be Haydeh o Googoosh goosh nadadeh
@TUniqueUK In Jomhoory bi ahamiyat nist, ey kash ke be ahamiyat bood, ma dar be dar nemishodim! va in joomhoory ro hamin mardom bevejood avordan, va dar in movie kheili vazeh gofteh shod ke ta farhange tak takemoon avaz nashe, hamin asho hamin kasast!
again, the male voice is that of the Shahram Nazeri, and the female voice that of Sussan Deyhim. someone asked about where to find Sussan Deyhim's work - apart from the album this is on - Turbulent - she has a phenomenal release on Crammed Discs called Desert Equations: Azax Attra, as well as another called Madman of God. Shahram Nazeri's work is harder to find in the US, but there are a few mainstream labels with some collections of his instrumental work.
as far as i can see, power in the iranian society is at almost 100 per cent represented by men. and representation is what neshat´s piece is about (that´s at least what i think). which does not mean that this problem is not known in the western world too. why not accept neshat´s point of view as a possible way of thinking about this universal issue?
This is remarkable. The understanding of contrast of image and sound using contiguous screens is electrifying. There seems to be a reference somewhere to the use of displaced narrative whereby the power of the these two elements is more important than the surface - The Birds is an example and I think a direct influence.
Wow! It engulfs with its powerful waves of sound, what a statement on gender roles, the separation, the female with no audience, the man whos just been applauded by the crowd (even with back turned) now stunned by the the voice making itself heard, a voice imbued with the force of centuries, anguish, yearning this film is an absolute marvel, says more in 9 minutes than most directors manage in a lifetime.
I think the movie maker is stereotyping her own personal experiences as if they are the norms of the society! The truth about gender roles is far distant from this utterly bitter black and white perspective.
@biba2404 The truth is both women and men are free to educate and work and contribute to the well-being of their society in Iran. The number of women with higher education is rapidly increasing. Female college students have already outnumbered male students, something which happens rarely even in western countries. Women's work in arts, medicine, science and management is well acknowledged and highly appreciated.
Well women are not equal to men in Iran, just like in every other country in the world... But women are not oppressed. Iranian women in fact are more educated and outspoken than the men... They are not like Arab women.
Well what sort of Arab are you? Generally it is the case.
The only place where Arab women are educated and outspoken people would be countries like Bahrain, Lebanon and Palestine. I can't think of other Arab countries where the women are educated, outspoken, modern, etc.
Things have changed since then. But when she made this, it was a representation of the loss of female rights... To no longer be able to sing in the theaters they once could. To dress as told to. To do only what is expected of them with no rights. :-/
I was fortunate enough to see this piece in Kansas City some years ago. The experience impacted me, both through the content of the piece and through the possibilities it exposed in the medium of video.
where my voice?!
akma632 2 weeks ago
Iranian Folk Music is kick ass Beautiful !
robrockrob 1 month ago
One may better understand the video as a clash: extroversion-introversion, man-woman, white-black, audience-no audience, a somewhat more "pop" song-an "ancient" cry, performer looking at you-performer not looking at you+a lot viewpoints of her, modern shirt-timeless unidentified dress. Even the fact that the man sang first indicates the clash impetuosity-stoicism. Considering this artwork only feministic, is a blunt simplification. Art is miraculous, isn't it?
2ndnickthegreek992 2 months ago
A sentence came to my mind while seeing this: men have people behind them, women must face alone the emptiness their life became, yet their silenced voice is louder then any men voices.
TheSymonDe 2 months ago 3
I was one of 50 students who watched and critiqued this video in class today and for once the room was at an absolute silence...totally hypnotized by the sounds heard,and amazed at how ones voice can capture so many minds...awesome video :)
rubykaleni 4 months ago
damn. the female side is so creepy. shirin is my new fav artist.
MayadIdub 5 months ago
Do somebody knows the name of this man?
EzEpidemic52 6 months ago
@EzEpidemic52 The man on the video is the husband of the artist Shirin Neshat. The voice though belongs to Sharam Nazeri who is one of the most famous Iranian singers.
stefanos2691 2 months ago
The female singer's anguished style is so haunting..a voice from many many centuries ago,straining for expression and never given an ear ever by the male dominated world..The conceptualization of this video is brilliant.
The way the voice richochets in the empty theater is such a strong symbolism for the unheard 50% of women population in Iran and many many other countries.
meow61 7 months ago
The female singer's anguished style is so haunting..a voice from many many centuries ago,straining for expression and never given an ear ever by the male dominated world..The conceptualization of this video is brilliant.
meow61 7 months ago
true love in art :) bravo!
highsynthesis 7 months ago
this is one of my all time favorite pieces of video installation and proved to be the precursor for my own experiments in video and video installation pieces.
thank you for posting this
technisleeve 8 months ago
Very beautiful, very powerful. She is truly a gifted film maker.
exitt18 9 months ago
I had the chance to see Sussan in concert in London at the Union chapel a few years ago. besides giving me goosebumps for most of the performance, she left my 2 friends and I speechless after wards!
I will always remember it.
YALLARD 9 months ago
Yadegare Doost by Shahram Nazeri is one of the most beautiful songs ever
birdwatcherize 10 months ago
If you look at these videos where they are installed they are on opposite sides of the room facing each other. and it is as if the man is singing to the woman and the woman is singing to the audience/man. I love to watch his facial expressions as she sings.
damnitnana12 10 months ago
yes!
It's the most beautiful video ever. period.
It's so good it makes me want to quit...
PINDERX 10 months ago
her voice and song evokes in me the feeling of woman suffering throughout the world and throughout the ages. absolutely haunting and beautiful.
babybadoo 11 months ago 5
a phenomenal piece of work!
azulkali 11 months ago 3
admire the contrasts displayed in this video
01choicelover 11 months ago
simplemente sensacional
parbatric 1 year ago
wow...i keep coming back to this piece...each time, a different feeling is invoked... this is a powerful piece of artwork that speaks in universal tones.
aazablue 1 year ago 3
beautiful
julian73de 1 year ago
@biba2404, I think you are right, the complexity of gendered roles is a fluid thought that has universal value, Turbulent is a piece thats speak to all. This look from an Iranian woman speaks truth about the subjugation of all women. Great Work.
MrEvilOne 1 year ago 3
lyrics in most cases has the biggest role obviously after the voice .
singers like Hayedeh , Sima Bina and Googoosh made their Name and glory mainly of the lyrics , although one cannot disagree on overall suppression of women in Iran. you cannot even mumble the vocals that Deyhim sings. which makes it easier to forget . songs like that reminds people of memories bring their singer to life even after they pass away. props to all the people who dedicated something to the art .
aliwesker 1 year ago
I think i am shocked from these 2 voices so as from the video presentation...Wow...this is astonishing...So pure and deep feelings....
helenaki9999999999 1 year ago 3
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that's really hard to translate but I try to do it for you
sajedehh 1 year ago
that's really hard to translate but I try to do it for you
sajedehh 1 year ago
@sajedehh hi could you please translate it ? ^^ pretty please?
zhaklyn 1 year ago
c'est magnifique!
2697696f 1 year ago
I can't understand how a human vocal cords can make such powerful sounds...
Spiritblade9 1 year ago
Someone, PLEASE translate (at least some of) the words into English... merci beaucoup.
rickchafey 1 year ago
Very powerful.
matt24hours 1 year ago
did someone know what he is singin? did anyone know where i can find the text with translation?
kennedy333 1 year ago
... sorry i cant translate better ;)
since I fell i love with you, my heart has been so much turbulent ..
It wasnt the first time that I fell in love, but this time was very different..
shahilagh 1 year ago
Beautiful, wonderful, soulful, emotionally overwhelming. But can anyone tell me what he is singing about? Also what her words are about. I can read the visual information and feel the pain, but the words are they relevant? To disagree with an earlier poster, the male singer is aware of the other, he is listening with his back to his audience, making him audience too..
Nickeleyeful 1 year ago
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... sorry i cant translate better ;)
since I fell i love with you, my heart has been so much turbulent ..
It wasnt the first time that I fell in love, but this time was very different..
shahilagh 1 year ago
AWESOME!!! I think I wanna cry
Sarauto18 1 year ago 2
Anyone knows the name of this song by Nazeri?
chichini100 1 year ago
Moshkeleh Shirin Neshat ineh ke fekre mikoneh in ghanoonayi ke alan ba jomhooriyeh eslami oomadeh be farhangeh Irania vared shodeh and bahash rabeteh dareh. Jomhooriyeh eslami yeh doreyeh bi ahamiyateh tarikheh mast. Engar Shirin Neshat tahala be Haydeh o Googoosh goosh nadadeh
TUniqueUK 1 year ago
@TUniqueUK In Jomhoory bi ahamiyat nist, ey kash ke be ahamiyat bood, ma dar be dar nemishodim! va in joomhoory ro hamin mardom bevejood avordan, va dar in movie kheili vazeh gofteh shod ke ta farhange tak takemoon avaz nashe, hamin asho hamin kasast!
hhsmm 1 year ago
Great! I was looking for this masterpiece of art for so many years... Thanks for posting! Like "melis70" wrote - 24 hours are not enough :-)
BlackBettyCinema 1 year ago
again, the male voice is that of the Shahram Nazeri, and the female voice that of Sussan Deyhim. someone asked about where to find Sussan Deyhim's work - apart from the album this is on - Turbulent - she has a phenomenal release on Crammed Discs called Desert Equations: Azax Attra, as well as another called Madman of God. Shahram Nazeri's work is harder to find in the US, but there are a few mainstream labels with some collections of his instrumental work.
anomalek 1 year ago 2
@anomalek thank you for information
Manhanuzzendam 1 year ago
Yes!!!!!
Kurkgrand 1 year ago
i like her and bjork! theyre both amazing artist. what do you guys think.
ERiiK98 1 year ago
@ERiiK98 Do you know Meredith Monk? Worth checking out.
yorikthepoor 1 year ago
@ERiiK98 Hell yeah, imagine them working together! To sick geniuses.
HestiaJadis 1 year ago
as far as i can see, power in the iranian society is at almost 100 per cent represented by men. and representation is what neshat´s piece is about (that´s at least what i think). which does not mean that this problem is not known in the western world too. why not accept neshat´s point of view as a possible way of thinking about this universal issue?
biba2404 1 year ago 21
LMFAO
rarepokemonmark 1 year ago
he has such a beautiful voice... i could hear it 24 hours a day =)
melis70 2 years ago 2
i love it. but who is the male singer?
biba2404 2 years ago
The male voice if that of the great Iranian singer, master Shahram Nazeri.
This is definitely a violation of copy right by the movie maker as she used Nazeri's voice without permission. I doubt if he even knows about this!
manouchehr78 2 years ago
This is remarkable. The understanding of contrast of image and sound using contiguous screens is electrifying. There seems to be a reference somewhere to the use of displaced narrative whereby the power of the these two elements is more important than the surface - The Birds is an example and I think a direct influence.
vivienmerchant 2 years ago
absolutely wonderful!
gee he can really sing! 1:06
drunksingsheep 2 years ago
its Sussan Deyhim
MyGoodFeelings 2 years ago
Does anybody know what is the name of that women singing?
I would love to hear more of her songs.
Thank you
SuperMoje 2 years ago
Does anyone know how I can buy her stuff????
HildurM 2 years ago
i dont understand this but its powerful!
7528852 2 years ago
Wow! It engulfs with its powerful waves of sound, what a statement on gender roles, the separation, the female with no audience, the man whos just been applauded by the crowd (even with back turned) now stunned by the the voice making itself heard, a voice imbued with the force of centuries, anguish, yearning this film is an absolute marvel, says more in 9 minutes than most directors manage in a lifetime.
mizofan 2 years ago 45
Very nice analysis my friend.
I think the movie maker is stereotyping her own personal experiences as if they are the norms of the society! The truth about gender roles is far distant from this utterly bitter black and white perspective.
manouchehr78 2 years ago 2
so what is the truth abut gender roles? i´m eager to know it..
biba2404 2 years ago
@biba2404 The truth is both women and men are free to educate and work and contribute to the well-being of their society in Iran. The number of women with higher education is rapidly increasing. Female college students have already outnumbered male students, something which happens rarely even in western countries. Women's work in arts, medicine, science and management is well acknowledged and highly appreciated.
manouchehr78 1 year ago
@biba2404 The ONLY difficulty that one could possibly mention is the mandatory Islamic dress code (the so-called "hijab") which is enforced by law.
manouchehr78 1 year ago
Well women are not equal to men in Iran, just like in every other country in the world... But women are not oppressed. Iranian women in fact are more educated and outspoken than the men... They are not like Arab women.
Mahdavi1990 1 year ago
Wow!!! What makes you think that Arab women are not educated. Wake up and look around you. Do not compare when you do not know all the facts.
badaouiah 1 year ago
What sort of Arab are you? In MOST Arab societies, the women are very uneducated, especially in the Gulf region (with the exception of Bahrain).
Mahdavi1990 1 year ago
Then be specific! Do not mix all Arabs in one pot to argue that Iranians are more educated.
badaouiah 1 year ago
Well what sort of Arab are you? Generally it is the case.
The only place where Arab women are educated and outspoken people would be countries like Bahrain, Lebanon and Palestine. I can't think of other Arab countries where the women are educated, outspoken, modern, etc.
Mahdavi1990 1 year ago
@Mahdavi1990 u forgot Iraq..
passionaria 1 year ago
@Mahdavi1990 and Syria..
passionaria 1 year ago
@passionaria You got it!
badaouiah 1 year ago
@badaouiah Arab Woman?? she is persian. she is from Iran! she is not Arab!
samane0shadow 1 year ago
@samane0shadow I know that she is not an Arab. I was replying to a comment about Arab women.
badaouiah 1 year ago
Things have changed since then. But when she made this, it was a representation of the loss of female rights... To no longer be able to sing in the theaters they once could. To dress as told to. To do only what is expected of them with no rights. :-/
AngelEmfrbl 2 years ago
This is staggering.
mizofan 2 years ago
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Wtf am I missing here??? All the msgs about how powerful a msg is being sent... I just see 2 singers screaming :S:S
abuomak 2 years ago
Excellent film !!
Thank you very much for posting !
stathiszphotography 2 years ago 2
Beautiful film. It makes you understand the message without words, but pictures and logic.
Persian Pride!
F7Avesta 2 years ago
este año pude verlo en el Caixa Forum de Madrid. Solo puedo decir que s eme pusieron los pelos de punta! muy potente!
shakaom 2 years ago
thank you
televisionforghosts 2 years ago
I was fortunate enough to see this piece in Kansas City some years ago. The experience impacted me, both through the content of the piece and through the possibilities it exposed in the medium of video.
ReconfiguredEye 2 years ago
can someone help me, whats the name of this song of master shahram nazeri ?!
amirhossein1178 2 years ago
name of the album is "ey doost" and its the first track (1st side), u can google it.
mehradoo 2 years ago
finally get it ! Nazeri - Yadegare doost
kharbod 2 years ago
great artist! in minutes says a lot more than a thousand debates
Lindix61 2 years ago
so powerful!
it's been a long time since i saw the installation at the Miami Art Museum. i will never forget the impression it left on me.
thank you...
unahijadeyemaya 2 years ago