Franz Liszt - Ad nos, ad salutarem undam (conclusion) -- Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ

[theshow2k]

I refreshed the video information section, because the ACCHOS has been dissolved.

[poopingeneral]

This is the titan, the God of all organs ever created. Even at 1/10 functional, as you can audibly hear. This Organ sounds like God hath reached out, and blew in your ear drums.

[claytoncastel]

Now...Imagine it........With ALL STOPS PULLED!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

[jimamia77]

What a beast!

[rafagomy]

This is one of the most beautiful things that i ever heard! Cheers from Brazil!

[JairCrawford]

Only 10% functional here and it still sounds colossal.

[falaqdad15]

No other organ to my knowledge can make such a wave of sound like this one. This is one of my dreams, to be there and hear it and play it

[jgh548]

Is it suffering major wind leakage in this recording?

[LeftiusMaximus]

@jgh548 in this recording it was 1/10 workable, damaged relays, untuned pipes etc

[falaqdad15]

@jgh548 has to be. poor thing

[AnOrganCornucopia]

@jgh548 - sounds like it! Also badly out of tune and the winding just not up to it. Oh, and 90% of it completely out of action. It declined into total unplayability a few years back, but a big effort is now being made to get the whole of the Right Stage chamber working, as well as the Swell in the Left Stage chamber, getting them all in tune. The rest will follow later. The Swell alone has 4,456 pipes - about as many as the average entire cathedral organ! So, no mean task, as you can imagine.

[LeftiusMaximus]

@AnOrganCornucopia that's cause the original leather wind chests were still in place and dry rotted

[nozeadinpencizx]

This national treasure is worthy of full restoration! Please join ACCHOS, wherever you live, and help support their worthy effort! Our children and grandchildren deserve to hear this mighty instrument.

[Elhombresombra]

@nozeadinpencizx It quite surprises me that Americans, who are notoriously very proud of their national glories, could never raise the funds or get the Federal or NJ government into the task of restoring and preserving this remarkable instrument. And this, please note, even in times BEFORE the world economy crisis could be an excuse to neglect it. Really puzzling.

[filebarn]

Some of Liszt's less popular pieces are truly gems. Who'd have thought the same person who wrote the Paganini etudes, transcendental etudes, and Hungarian rhapsodies also wrote this and, say, In Festo Transfigurationis? I was pleasantly surprised.

[wagglet]

Good Lord! :O My ears! :)

I've heard very few American organs I genuinely like but this instrument is just devastating. I would love to be able to hear it (more like 'feel' it with such a pedal division!) in person one day.

Thank goodness it is being lovingly restored...

Thanks for posting!

[magmablock]

I swear, I will always love pipe organs, from the tiny one in my great grandma's house to this titan here.

[MrAlex413x]

from 1:53 if possible what stops are being used ? generally

[3dwurli]

@MrAlex413x most of the right stage chamber, 132 ranks. The grand Ophicleide is heard at the end capping out over the rest.

[claytoncastel]

turn this up too high, and your eyebrows burn off...i should know...i tried it...

[bigbdog32]

@claytoncastel LOL! But what better way to do so?

[bigbdog32]

Absolutely magnificent!

[poopingeneral]

What I would personally like to do, is play this particular song during a rock concert when everyone is leaving. I'd play it at it's full 100% max volume, everyone would probably shut up, be like OMFG this beats concert speakers lol...

[Patriot1776]

@poopingeneral You should be able too in a few months. The Right Stage Chamber's divisions were what were used to record this in 1998, and those divisions remain the only sounding divisions right now, but they are in the process of replacing magnets in that chamber to eliminate 'dead notes' before they re-tune those divisions so it will at least be sounding as good again as it was when these recordings were made. They've started work now also on the Left Stage Chamber.

[MrAlex413x]

at 2:22 is that all of the organ playing that is playable at this moment in time or is it just what the piece said to play ( if that makes sense) thank you .

[3dwurli]

@MrAlex413x Its the pretty much all of the Right stage chamber (1/3 of the entire organ) (an ill right stage chamber at that) topped off with the Grand Ophicliede

[MrAlex413x]

@3dwurli thankyou , it sounds heavenly when the grand ophicliede kicks in !!

[poopingeneral]

@MrAlex413x; when exactly does the grand ophicliede kick in on this song?

[theshow2k]

@poopingeneral It's the high C on the last chord. 2:25

[LeftiusMaximus]

@theshow2k i thought the Grand Ophicliede was the growling note in the pedal division

[theshow2k]

@LeftiusMaximus Sorry, of course it's my fault. The GO is a 16' stop - so it must be one of the lower notes.

[edolch]

@theshow2k It is a unit though. It is also available at 8' on the Grand Great. It is playing high C.

[sanysov]

Big organ of circus!!! Bimbo the elephant!!! Big, big, big, only. Bad quality organ.

[3dwurli]

@sanysov Odd how SO MANY people would totally disagree. Its better than many that have been built, just not so well cared for as it should have been. Theres nothing on earth that sounds like it. Even in this recording, when its in a pretty POOR condition, with only 1/3 of it "working", you can still sense the power it has, and the quality.

[3dwurli]

@3dwurli I shouldnt say better. But it is of the same high standard that one would expect, just on a much larger scale. Its not a "typical" pipe organ by any means. It was ahead of its time when it was built.

[JeuPrestant]

bad organ !

[3dwurli]

@JeuPrestant you seem to know alot about it..........

[thomy753]

It's probably almost impossible to play on the 7th manual!

[3dwurli]

@thomy753 its actually VERY easy to reach. The console was designed so that everything on the console was easily reachable. It was designed so that even playing on the 7th manual, and pedals, while changin the stops farthest out is possible!

[brb21592]

sep 10

The Midmer-Losh organ's Swell department, in the Left Stage chamber, has been removed - pipes, chests, everything. The chests will be sent out for restoration, while the pipes will probably be dealt with in-house.

New, specially-designed magnets have been ordered from Klann Organ Supply Co. These will replace the existing magnets in the Right Stage chamber, in the hope of eliminating the majority of dead notes. The 96 stops/132 ranks in this chamber will then be given a thorough tuning.

[tubamaxima]

@violinolapiano115

To all that are really interested in getting this organ fully functional you should join acchos.org. It's not expensive and the money is just for the organ. I was present on the stage when Stephen Smith played the Ad Nos. Never, ever, have I heard such an impressive sound. It makes one wonder what it would sound like when the other seven chambers are functioning, too.

This truly amazing American Treasure should not be allowed to die.

A

[unc7480]

The depth, reverberation and contrast of dark/bright tone are amazing. It sounds like a wordless chorus joins in at about 1:55.

[TheGrafination]

what is the name of this part (1:00-1:32)?

[thegreatbasher]

Wonderful, rich and sparkling tones!  Very impressive instrument.

[manga12]

man listen to that sound, its soo full, and the echoing or the kind of bellowing effect the sound has is unlike anything I have ever heard, and growing up in the catholic church I have heard plenty of organs especialy at the cathedral and the old churches of fort wayne indiana. they are loud and grand but the fullness is not as great as this one, and there is even a wherlezer organ by wicks in one of the theaters downtown and its not like this up close.

[falaqdad15]

@manga12

Wurlitzer not wherlezer

xD

[manga12]

well you get the drift, the great big theater organs that made one person a one person orchestra for silent movie times, as well as jazz music performances from the era.

found out last sunday by the way the catholic cathedral in fort wayne indiana has about 3,000 pipes and the organ is also a wicks, has three manuals on it and a revamped modern blower that is in one of the sound chests so to speak, If you like to know.

signed Jeremy manga12

[danielmkubacki]

I like the Wanamaker organ

[SWBoPCstudios]

One of the only reasons that this organ was practically wiped off the face of Earth, was because a ery important cable that connects the console to all of the pipe chambers was cut by a construction worker because the shaft was in his way.

[bombarde1701a]

The relays were severed

[AerialTheShamen]

@SWBoPCstudios Outch - was it one like those big analogue telephone cables with 10000 wires inside?!

It must be a horrible cable mess inside the organ console - EM pinball machines are already a bit messy, but this think certainly looks inside like the Zuse relay computer.

[3dwurli]

@AerialTheShamen, actually, the cabling is all very neatly done!

[mdeonx16]

And the organ isn't even fully restored.

[chieftp]

I'd like to see this country, when it's fully restored.

[falaqdad15]

Amazing with my Sennheiser Headphones i got for around $30

THE BASS IS CRAZY

very low feedback or reverb distortion

[danielmkubacki]

Go to here the Wanamaker Organ at Macy's in Phily. The Wanamaker has been rebuilt almost to its original state.

[bmhall100]

Or go to a tour of the midmer losh at boardwalk hall in Atlantic city, see the organ, and probably even get to play it!

[ecolyn]

It will be great to hear this organ full restored! MAJESTIC !!

[ThePipeorganman]

Wow Wow there deffently is no organ in the world that powerful. Thank you so much for the video i know this might sound weired for a man to say this but i had a tear in my eye.

[mortson978]

Yeah, I play this all the time at church, it's one of my favorites.

[bobmusick]

Haha it's the only thing (music) that makes me cry! So hearing that from another guy makes me kinda relived.

[locke11216]

@ThePipeorganman dont feel like the lone stranger it does me that way too but especially when i listen to eventide played on that organ.

[locke11216]

@locke11216 and yes imo it is one of the most beautiful and moving sounds i have ever heard in my life!!!

[seaquestatari]

This is not full organ! This is a little squeak compared to what this thing will do when fully restored!

[TheOscillatingFan]

Is that full organ?

[bmhall100]

This recording was taken when 132 ranks (Right stage chamber, 1 of 8 chambers) was all that was working. Restoration of the instrument is well underway now and one day all 448 ranks will work!

[smitschagen]

Man is this stunning, blows you away

[danielmkubacki]

The Wanamaker Organ might put up a fight for king og instremsnts

[mortson978]

I would call it the De-facto king, but only because this organ is not fully functional.

[bmhall100]

not against this, it would wipe the floor with the wanamaker organ. Thats not to say the wanamaker organ isnt nice, its a BEAUTIFUL instrument in every way! THe midmer losh however, is just something very different, special. Its much more flexible in the right hands. The 7 manual console, and the 5 manual console, used together for duo`s, that would be something spectacular with the right peice and artists!

[DavidJMV61]

Beautiful!!!!!

[Elhombresombra]

...Jesus Christ... like God were talking directly to you...

[poopingeneral]

I was like thinking the same exact thing dude!!!!!!!

[LeftiusMaximus]

to think this is just the pipes of the one chamber; the next chamber scheduled to be restored is the left stage; that will start as soon as a new solid state contact relay is installed.

[mdeonx16]

OMG, I want to hear the organ IN PERSON when it's fully restored ^..^

[logica10]

No, the powerful reeds in this organ are louder than the 64-feet pédale stop. They sports 100-inch (water column) air pressure, a quite impressive amount of wind power. When combined, the whole organ could play , estimatively, at least at 140 dB in all audible frequencies in true polyphonic sound, from 8Hz to 22KHz. "For me, the organ is the king of instruments" W.A. Mozart.

[dulzian64]

ACCHOS says all but about 6 ranks of the right state chamber are now functional on this organ! I can't wait until the whole instrument is playable again. I'm definitely going to Atlantic City when that day comes.

[mortson978]

do you know how many firms are currently working on the organ?

[theshow2k]

I don't how many firms are working there... But I know that there are 160(!) ranks playable right now - not just six!

[dulzian64]

right. i said all but 6

[theshow2k]

Well, then you are totally right. Didn't read careful enough...

[dulzian64]

It's ok. Thanks for posting the video, btw

[Paolorgano]

Excuse me, can everybody play this organ when completely restored?

[SWBoPCstudios]

@Paolorgano I certaintly will.

[nexgenhippy]

33,000 pipes, compared to a stack of speakers.

im an audio fan but,DAMN, just do the math

[theshow2k]

I'm sorry but I think I don't get your point...

Loudest rock band of the world (according to Guinness 2008): 129dB, Manowar.

So which dB value can the Grand Ophicleide reach?

[449GO]

the grand ophicliede reaches 135dB at a 1 metre distance!

[Renatodonadio]

To have an idea of what the Grand can do listen carefully to the very last chord, you'll hear a faint "wee" peeping out from the mass. That's the GO as stated in the description to the track on acchos

[GrandOphicleide]

@449GO At full volume, it is several times louder than a train horn.

[y11971alex]

I believe the Grand Ophicleide 16' of the Pedal reaches 135 db.

[mdeonx16]

I'm surprised that lighthouses don't use these XD

[helloitsmelol097]

@theshow2k I think he means nothing can beat the organ. Not sure...

[3dwurli]

@theshow2k 130dB. One of the organists in the 1950s coupled everything that was working at the time (around 90% of the organ) to the Great manual and played some big chords, just to see what power the organ had. At the time there was an ice rink set up for the Ice Capades show. The ice on the icerink cracked, and the organ was audible on the beach outside the building, over 1000ft away from the organ chambers.

[3dwurli]

@3dwurli Also, speakers work ENTIRELY different from pipes. They dont produce the same kind of sound. The sound from a pipe organ is mixed in the environment. The pipes are all individual, each note is individual, and acoustic.

Speakers mix the sound within themselfs almost. They just cant produce the same effect or power that an acoustic instrument of this scale does. Not with the same clarity.

[falaqdad15]

ive heard some idiots comparing the Grand Ophiclide to concert speakers. lets recap: it is located in a large, highly reverberant space; 100 inches of air pressure making it completely acoustic compared to an amplified signal. this instrument rams 100" of pressure into a metal reed hard as hell and it with all others combines to make a sound so full that even God wakes up and looks around.

[glenn3rd2004]

I have read, though, that heavy metal rock bands such as Metallica and Spinal Tap have concert speakers and amplifiers which can get as loud as 170 dB if pushed to their limits. I agree that 'louder isn't necessarily better' and the Grand Ophiclide organ stop sounds impressive and 'real' as compared to the more 'artificial' (although at times louder) sounds of concert speakers at heavy metal rock concerts.

[falaqdad15]

i listened to this with headphones with the volume all the way up. 0.o

[nexgenhippy]

The 64 foot nine inch Dulzian produces an 8Hz tone, thats 8 cycles per second, and has been compared to a helicopter hovering directly over the building. will definately go and see this thing when its fully working again. oh and its been quoted as hitting 140 db in the 41,000 seater stadium.thats seriously loud man..... :0

[LeftiusMaximus]

if memory serves its the Grand Ophicleide on 100" of wind pressure....the 64' Dulzian is even louder and deeper.....(used to have notes on the ACCHOS sight links; but I think they took them down)

[theshow2k]

The Grand Ophicleide is the loudest organ stop in the world. The Diaphone Dulzian is not louder than the Grand Ophicleide BUT it produces much lower frequencies. They are two totally different organ stops. The Diaphone Dulzian even produces frequencies which a human ear isn't able to hear - you just can hear what is called "Obertöne" in German (don't know the English term) and the physical sound made in the pipe during usage and you can feel the vibrations due to the low frequencies.

[LeftiusMaximus]

eh....i can hear the Dulzians tones just fine on the video of Abide with Me....but who am I to argue. The Dulzian has a broader sound than the GO.

[theshow2k]

Well, let's let organ specialists judge... I'm none either. ;-)

[falaqdad15]

so is the G. Ophicleide the loud squeak at the end or is it in the bass notes?

[theshow2k]

It's the high C 'entering' at 2:25.

[Paolorgano]

when will the organ be playable?

[theshow2k]

As soon as enough funds have been raised to make a full restoration possible. To follow the process visit the ACCHOS website.

[449GO]

Hopefully, the right stage chamber will be playable fairly soon. It is gradually coming back online. Currently the Swell will be first to be restored.

[LeftiusMaximus]

as of 2007 according to the curators post on the facebook group; part of the organ has been restored to playable condition

[mdeonx16]

I'm gonna rob Donald Trump so I can restore this organ.

[topper2142]

Truly one of the wonders of this world.Its a tragedy it was allowed to fall into such shape,but thanks to the efforts of the ACCHOS,and the donations of others,this instrument will be heard in all its wonder once again.I encourage everyone who enjoys this instrument,to donate,or purchase the cd's of this instrument.

[firenmage]

Is the 64' diaphone-dulzian being used in this piece??

[theshow2k]

Well, I think that the stop is used. One can't be sure because a 64' stop mainly produces frequences which can't be heard (just felt). But (according to Wikipedia) Liszt wrote this piece for a full organ tutti, including the 32' (and if possible also the 64') stops of an organ.

Such a full and rich sound of the pedal stops also suggests that the Diaphone-Dulzian might be used.

[theshow2k]

I have to point out that it is just a minor part of the organ which you can hear in this clip. In 1998 only a small part of the organ was playable and during the restoration of the hall following 1998 even further parts of the organ were damaged.

Kind of unbelievable! One can only imagine what the tutti sound would be like when hearing the end of Liszt's piece.

[firenmage]

The 16' Grand Ophicleide is being used here on the last chord..for those of you who dont already know, it is the loudest organ stop in the world..said to be six times louder than the loudest locomotive whistle!!!!!! This is a collosal masterpiece of an instrument that we should never let die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[accousticdecay]

I hope that the organ is fully restored someday! WOW!!

[firenmage]

A truly one-of-a-kind sound ever created...