Hybrid Flower: 4-ptal antispin VS 2-petal inspin (For Max)

[FeltnMurs]

4 petal diamond style vs 2 petal inspin flower i use this alot :)

[Vonkz]

is there a video clip of someone doing this one...im having a hard time grasping what the heck im trying to do

[Elemensce]

In the wall plane, you have one arm doing a 2 petal in-spin flower, and the other doing a 4 petal anti-spin flower and having the hands meet the way a split-time butterfly would.

[freedomcaller]

ok trying to get my head around how many different ways this move can be done?

is it

forward to left

forward to right

reverse to left

reverse to right

times 2 because each hand can do either move? or do some of these become duplicates?

so my final answer is 8?

[AlienJon]

Just 4 basic ones (excluding inswung variants). For each of the 4 you list, it implies the other hands role. Another way to do the math is there are 2 ways your hands can move in split-opposite (ie over hand or underhand) X 2 ways your poi could be rotating (clockwise or anti-clockwise).

If you change the "phase" of the poi in this pattern you can get another split-time variant, and 2 more together time variants... but those look distinctly different, so I may put them up as such.

[freedomcaller]

ooh i like this one, dosnt seem to hard, im gona try it!

[MoJo51289]

Nice

[Meelosapiens]

It is very old idea.... Goofy or ASS.... But in image it looks so sweet)))

[NathanielEverist]

I used to do this as a variation of the buzzsaw fountain, where one arm would antispin and the other would go regular, one high, one low to turn to the buzzsaw on the opposite side, that's another way you could think about executing this pattern, or is what I'm talking about different?

[seepingmass]

Are you doing this move in a normal flower style(at your sides), or spinning the poi in front of you on a wallplane(like a mercedes)?

Either way it's a sweet pattern.

[AlienJon]

The hands are moving split - opposite, so the natural way to do this is in wall-plane, like a Mercedes. Your arms don't really work the other way.

[superiorsantateresa]

Sweet! :D

[Codfert970]

i like

[Alhimik198]

!! wow! crazy idea =)

[Mireneye]

Awesome! Definitely another really sweet pattern to get.

[stillhuman]

oh wow i love this one!

[LBarron714]

ahh... having a hard time just spinning my hands like that consistently without poi or glow sticks.

[Sengenda]

thanks a lot for actually animating this!!

I love your work :)

[diarkon]

nice and easy

[tulsky]

pretty cool ... I still like the half cap stuff .. nice work jon

[patrickablir]

nice.

[krishoee]

I get it. Thanks Jon.

[666KniveS666]

i think i can see it @_@. rawr i'll steal this from you :)

[AlienJon]

No need to steel, the patterns are already inherent in our physical reality... just gotta discover them... they be open source!

Have fun with this stuff!

[666KniveS666]

lol it's a joke but thank you sir :)

[SamMalcolmFireDancer]

i dont get the point of this.....

[AlienJon]

The point is Sengenda (Max) asked me to animate it for him (actually he does it a little different)... It is a 4-loop anti-spin (blue poi), vs a 2-loop in-spin (green poi). Poi are split-same, arms are moving split-opposite, in wall plane. Really for accuracy, I should have animated which poi was in front of the other on each side.

The point is it's a goofy or hybrid flower that looks cool cuz the loops interact with each other in a visually interesting way!

[SamMalcolmFireDancer]

oh ok. yeah i thought it looked cool but it just didnt make sense what it was doing till u explained it. ive been trying to do more flower variations when i spin and get away from wraps and weaves so i think il try this. thanks