LTC Terry Lakin & Dr. Jerome Corsi Interview - 6/6/2011

[SaneBoomer]

It's all here: watch?v=oQrgwyK7luI&feature=re­lated

Douglas Vogt Explains why they uploaded the pdf. The answer is 'too simple', and you will agree.

His most astute comment was on the media. Why they won't report on it.

This guy is 110% right on everything.

[SaneBoomer]

On the forgery, its seems clear now that the forger snipped letter images from a number of different Hawaiian BC documents, and then pasted them onto one image, creating a composite. However, that same forger did not clean up the backgrounds around the pasted components, and in other cases simply used an electronically generated character, and these were kerned (naturally). There's so many flaws in this forgery that its impossible not to think Obama was set up.

[SaneBoomer]

A judge has given Orly Taitz subpoena power. Three(3) members of Obama's cabinet have quit in the last week. If anyone has trouble sleeping at night, its Obama (and not the ppl posting here).

Watch this unfold. Orly Taitz, A Russian dentist from California is going to be the one that pulls the string that unravels the WH.

[1776iscoming]

@SaneBoomer

That woman has more guts and integrity than every single person in Congress combined.

[SaneBoomer]

More fresh news. The WND website has published another experts analysis on the WH document:

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Of course this guy is only 50 years in type setting, what does he know! lol

[biggamerjh1]

Lakin is a fucking coward and Taitz is a fucking dumbass bitch...

I say let Lakin sit in prison on his easy sentence, if I refused orders I would serve a much longer term in prison.

[SaneBoomer]

I'm reading up on this issue, it seems that attorney Orly Taitz ( Taitz vs federal gov) whose case is seeking the original application for Obamas Social Security number is getting somewhere. Its moving into discovery and she can issue subpoenas to those holding documentation. It could be why Bauer resigned. This Russian California woman looks like a very formidable force, two doctorates, and armed with patriotic zeal. She doesn't back down. Real spine.

[SaneBoomer]

The fact that the certificate is SO OBVIOUSLY a phoney, oddly enough is probably the prime reason the media is dead quiet on the counter-attack. They are muted by the irrefutable nature of the fraud and the fact that such a blatant fraud in the public domain. The mainstream media is hog tied and they COMPLETELY risk their future credibility. I can't wait to the fireworks in the CNN 'war room' when the lid comes off this travesty. (as it surely will). Which news service will fess up first? Fox?

[JakeBlakeProject]

The media and congress are still invested heavily in the cover-up..... God only knows what the Joint Chiefs are saying behind the scenes.... The puppet masters are probably busy looking for another candidate to do their bidding.... Most people don't have a clue as to how the nation has been sold out..... AND nothing short of a miracle is going to save the republic..... "Apathy Killed the Republic" should go on the national tombstone... see my vids

[SaneBoomer]

@ DoubleTalkingJive , if there's obfuscation here, its by you. You try to work around the fact that the document Obama released is a fake. There's just no work-around, get over it. So far, from you, we hear appeal-to-authority and straw-man arguments; but the facts are the facts, and the fact is, the document they released is a phony. lol.. it is however somewhat entertaining to watch you twist and turn in your own breaking wind.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Not a single credible forensics analyst has ever ruled either Obama birth certificate a phony. THAT is a fact. "Techdude" doesn't count. Neither does the Doctor who signed his affidavit "Xxxxxxx". Neither does the copy machine salesman.

The FACTS are both documents released by the President are perfectly acceptable and legal proofs of identity, and the authenticity of both documents were verified by the Hawaii government. Full Faith & Credit is not a straw man argument. It's law.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => " . both documents released by the President are perfectly acceptable legal proofs"

And why is that? Because you say so? Comical. Jerome Corsi has just written a book debunking the certificate AS A FRAUD. lol - you don't seem to understand it is a fraud and that anyone with basic a tool set can see for themselves, it is a fraud. This is not going away. The document is there for anyone to see. Its not defensible as authentic. You're wasting everyone's time. Move on.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer No, because the STATE OF HAWAII says so, and thus, the Full Faith & Credit Clause in the U.S. Constitution. Hello?

Jerome Corsi has just written a novel-length compilation of three years worth of WND articles, riddled with the same rumors, conjecture, speculation, and debunked talking points (the grandmother, Indonesian citizenship, blah blah).

He's cashing in because people like you will believe anything you're told apparently. And he's laughing all the way to the bank.

[SaneBoomer]

The issue now is NOT whether the BC is a fraud, but rather what will become of the 'fact'. This is bigger than Watergate. Obama's WH lawyer jumped ship this week, others will follow. This issue is gaining momentum daily, and when the media's resistance to the facts finally caves in, as it will, the moment will be a watershed, with all the walls tumbling down. This story is just too big to sweep under the rug.

So, do you think Biden will make a good President?

[DoubleTalkingJive]

The State of Hawaii and their Department of Health BOTH verified that the two birth certificates that the President released were authentic and proof positive that he was indeed born in Honolulu.

Full Faith and Credit Clause says if a document legit in one state, it's legit in all 50.

It's a felony to forge a government document. To believe that the certificates are fraudulent is to believe that an entire state government is complicit in this felony.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive

What is it you don't understand about the document? Its a fraud. lol.. Verify it yourself, anyone with basic tools can do that. Or if you don't have basic web skills, watch this:

Idiot's Guide to the White House Birth Certificate forgery

watch?v=yn7OR-blyPg

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Firstly, the gentlemen who recorded the video has no known forensic credentials. Secondly, the "layers" theory has already been debunked.

Third, you can call it a fraud all you want, but the State of Hawaii says it's real. Are they all complicit in this felony??

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => Nice try, The 22-page criminal complaint filed with the FBI by document-imaging expert Doug Vogt solves that non-problem, search "Criminal complaint details birth-certificate 'forgery'" at wnd dot .com.

As for your other strawman argument, the document is a fraud, just look at it. lol

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Doug Vogt the guy who sells copy machines? Yeah. Total forgery credentials.

A criminal complaint being filed doesn't mean the FBI's going to do anything about it. They kind've like it when people present facts and evidence. Not Xerox machine salesmen who make shit up and believe everything they're told by the discredited conman Corsi.

Finally, I'll take a State government saying it's legit over you saying it's fake just by "looking" at it.

[BirtherReportDotCom]

@DoubleTalkingJive ... Which they are complicit... Why would it have to be the entire state government? The Hawaii DOH obfuscated their own laws for three years and you're ready to take their word for it? LMAO Obot.. prima facie; At first sight; before closer inspection: Take your "Full Faith and Credit" and shove it up your arse!

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@BirtherReportDotCom Wow. If you actually read the Constitution, you'd know that I didn't pull Full Faith & Credit out of my ass. That you're ill-researched on Constitutional law is unsurprising.

And the Hawaii DOH did nothing of the sort. They don't release long-forms or short-forms to anybody except the person in question.

But then again you probably think the hospital "obfuscated" by not giving Corsi Stanley Dunham's patient records.

[BirtherReportDotCom]

@DoubleTalkingJive ...I'm well aware of the FFCC... Yes the DOH did. "They don't release long-forms or short-forms to anybody except the person in question." Thanks for admitting what we "birthers" have been saying for 3 years. As for Ann's non existing hospital records. Last I checked DEAD PEOPLE have no privacy rights. The reason they won't release them is because they don't have any.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@BirtherReportDotCom Oh dear. HIPPA laws do, indeed, apply to the dead. Medical records are released only to the deceased person's next-of-kin or estate executor. Guess you and Corsi forgot that one.

Still not sure how you think the Hawaii DOH broke their own laws, but I guess when Birthers make up their own non-existant laws (like both parents needing to be citizens), it doesn't really matter, does it?

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive So now we are 'birthers' , comical. Is that supposed to smear everyone as nonsensical? You're looking more and more like a shill. Your fighting a losing battle here. We are educated, tech savvy people looking at this matter with a knowledgeable critical eye (unlike yourself apparently).

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Losing battle? All of Corsi's arguments were debunked three years ago. He spends half this video grave-dancing on Obama's parents, talking about alleged events that have NOTHING to do with the President, his policies, or his eligibility.

Educated? Someone else on here just tried to say that HIPPA laws only apply to the living. I've given Birthers the benefit of the doubt but you all keep clinging to the same tired, debunked conspiracy theories.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => All of Corsi's arguments were debunked three years ago.

More junk from you. The phoney birth certificate was just released April 27th 2011. Now we can add ad hominem attacks to your list of tactics, along with straw-man, and appeal to authority. Are you done yet? The actual document is a fraud. The questions now have moved on, (beyond tripe of the sort you are pushing) to the important questions, such as the future of mainstream media. Its a huge question Corsi raises.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer I was referring to the arguments Corsi presented in his book, which was completed prior to the release of the long-form.

These aren't "tactics" or logical fallacies that you keep citing. These are the facts. You can keep calling it a phony document over and over. But it won't make it any more true.

And it won't threaten Obama's Presidency. If Corsi keeps it up, Obama's ass will be out the door by January 20, 2017. :-p

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => You can keep calling it a phony document over and over. But it won't make it any more true.

You've got it backwards sunshine. The document is a phoney on its face. There is no denying the 'fact' lol. This is where you get hung up. Because you don't have the skill set or knowledge to understand that basic fact, it sidelines you completely. Unfortunately for you, and the WH, there are millions of us who have the basic knowledge to act and think for ourselves (unlike you).

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Well, I'm not gonna disagree with your last point. Unfortunately, the millions who can think and act for themselves are most likely the ones LAUGHING at people like you for being so gullible as to buy into Corsi's debunked nonsense, just because you hate Obama?

Don't like Obama? Then vote against him in 2012. Removing him from office requires an act of Congress, which I'm sure you already knew, since you're so Constitutionally astute....

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => the ones LAUGHING at people like you for being so gullible to buy into Corsi's debunked nonsense,

You're conducting a smear campaign here and its all you have. a) Corsi is 'the messenger', the message is the existence of a fraudulent document. Go look at it. No one looking is laughing, i can assure you.

b) Listen up, when a president, or ANY PAID CIVIL SERVANT holds forth a fraudulent document in support of his/her tenure in office, its not nonsense, its a crime.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Correctly pointing out that Corsi is a widely discredited liar is no smear campaign. Those are facts.

And his "message" keeps changing. First it was missing, then it was tampered with, now it's forged. So if it's completely bogus, where's the birth certificate from Kenya?

For a guy so obsessed with authentic, original birth certificates, Corsi doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get his hands on the Kenyan birth certificate.

Probably because it doesn't exist?

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => " Correctly pointing out that Corsi is a widely discredited liar "

Now we have you attempting to use deflection; the attack of last resort in any failed debate. The lie, my friend, IS the birth certificate. This profoundly transparent fraud IS the lie, and subject of the thread. If you can't deal with the subject of the thread, that being a fraudulent document, and instead only name call, you are reduced to blathering. You're done here, move on.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer I'm not name calling. I'm calling b.s. on the notion that the President, a state government, and our federal law enforcement agencies are all in on this big scheme to fool the American people. It makes absolutely no sense.

That you're willing to believe it anyway speaks to your blind Obama hatred.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive

Firstly, i don't 'hate' Obama. I've never met the man, and previously didn't bother with his personal details. Secondly, not a racist, I thought it was great to see a black man in the office (i was glad to see Hillary ousted) . That was before i figured out what was actually going on with him, and who exactly his creators are. I consider myself much more informed today, than in '08, when i knew nothing about the man. More to the point, this is a constitutional issue.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive

(con't) To be clear about my beef with Obama, and the US admin in general, its a situation where a criminal enterprise has taken over the US. To simplify my perspective, its very similar to the Capone syndicate. Big business (Wall Street) is running Washington. They've trashed the constitution, they've given us a phony war on terror WORLD WIDE, and a very aggressive police state, (us-against-them style) at an alarmingly rapid rate. I could go on, but you get the drift...

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Yes, I do. Big Business does indeed control everything (hence the wars), but you can thank Ronnie for that. Corporations had a fucking field day in the 1980s, and that winning streak has continued to this day. Not Obama's fault.

But the idea that he has "creators" is bizarre and unfair. But you have the choice to vote against him next year. To sit and expect a criminal indictment to be filed based on non-existance evidence is akin to waiting for a bus that's never going to come.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive > " To expect a criminal indictment to be filed based on non-existance evidence... "

Again, you are mistaken. Obama has released a fraudulent document into the public domain. Get this thru your lame brain. Take a 30 min course in Photoshop or something, but do us all a favor and stop white washing the facts like a shill. Thanks.

Whether this fraud actually get's prosecuted, is anybody's guess. They have so much control now over our reality that it might just go away. Tragic.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer A 30-minute Photoshop course will make me a forgery expert? Overnight? So I could prosecute the President of the United States too?

Good lord the amount of delusion you're displaying.

The State of Hawaii already stated that both birth certificates are legit. If you disagree, then you might as well file a criminal complaint with the FBI like your buddy Vogt did.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive

A 30 minute course on Photoshop might prevent you from talking thru your ass, as you continue doing, unabated, about something you obviously know nothing about. As for Hawaii State, is been discussed here ad nausium.

After listening to you for about 5,000 words, all you got is "Hawaii State says so" and therefore we should all shut up. You are simply an irrelevant shill for Obama's admin in my opinion. Every Obama discussion thread has at least one. Good luck with it.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer And good luck with your Birther delusions. They didn't work in 2008. And they don't work now.

Continue thinking that the President is a felon if it helps you sleep better at night. Keep repeating the same Birther talking points over and over if you think that will them true.

But it won't get Obama out of office any faster, sorry to say.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive

Again, you are conducting a smear campaign on this thread by repeating the same garbage.

Obama released a fraudulent BC document. Its an event, its a self-evident fact, and constitutionally, a very important one, not a talking point. You slur against those voices speaking out as 'Birthers'. Its an organized smear campaign which you are part of. You're a shill for a dishonest enterprise; a light-weight provocateur at best, nothing more.

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive =>

Because you're a gay rights activist, i can understand your obsession with Obama's ass. I'm sure he's flattered too.

Obama's presidency is finished, its just a matter of time. Why? Because he's now hung out to dry, shark bait for all his many political competitors and worse, he's a legal liability for anyone who get's behind him on this issue. But I'm sure you're behind him for a good reason. Why is that again? (wait, don't answer that, i don't need to know.)

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Homophobic remarks aside, it would be rather self-defeating for me to be a devoted Obama-ite since he is against gay marriage. See? You two most likely have something in common!

And there's nothing in Corsi's book that wasn't already debunked three years ago. You act like a big bombshell has just been dropped and it's just a matter of time before he's arrested/deported.

I guess the FBi is just back-logged? LOL!

[StompingRabbits]

@BirtherReportDotCom - Then why doesn't Bozo just drive a stake through the heart of the birthers by allowing reporters to see the original unaltered document and or releasing his mother's hospital records for the day he was born? Who was it that said, "people who refuse disclosure are people with something to hide?" or something to that effect? Wasn't it Obozo? Regardless of where he was born, he was born with British citizenship and that alone disqualifies him! USURPER!

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@StompingRabbits Whatever helps you sleep better at night....

[StompingRabbits]

Bozo's blatant violation of the War Powers Act with his Libyan "kinetic military action" is more then enough legal premise to see him IMPEACHED!

[MyMaeve]

@DoubleTalkingJive The certificates are both forgeries and Corsi has guys on the inside that told him they were being forged months before Oblahblah released them. they have been analyzed by several experts and are proven forged. Now that Oblahblah has released them, he's complicit in felony forgery.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@MyMaeve Okay, you've just accused both the President of the United States and the State of Hawaii of committing a felony.

So where are the criminal charges? Are the FBI, CIA, and Secret Service helping to cover this up to?

Clinton lied about a blowjob and nearly lost his job and his law license (actually, I think he did lose his law license). You mean to tell me the black lawyer from the Southside of Chicago has better conspiratorial pull than the Clintons?!

[SaneBoomer]

@DoubleTalkingJive => " . You mean to tell me the black lawyer from the Southside of Chicago has better conspiratorial pull than the Clintons?! "

Yet another straw-man argument, weaker still and this time with racial and social over-tone. Didn't anyone ever advise you, 'when in a hole, stop digging'.

Oh, btw, where are those millions laughing? I don't see them here. Maybe they are off-shift. When does yours end?

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@SaneBoomer Don't worry. You'll see those millions in full-force in about 17 months.

Secondly, you're the ones who for the last three years have denigrated the "Marxist", "community organizer", "affirmative action/white guilt President", "Jimmy Carter Jr.", "America-hater", "Appeaser", "Apology Tour" Obama.

Gee, for a guy so weak, incompetent, and treasonous, he sure does have some powerful friends in the law enforcement and intelligence communities to keep him out of jail!

[MyMaeve]

@DoubleTalkingJive The charges have been filed with the FBI about the birth certificate, yes, and the Congress has been informed, as have the Senate, all states attorneys, and numerous courts around the country also hold the evidence. Judge Lamberth just granted filing on the public record of the evidence showing his SS# is stolen, which grants discovery so the Dept of Health in HI has been subpoenaed as well. His scam is unraveling . . .

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@MyMaeve First of all, unless Obama physically attacked the copy machine salesman or robbed his house, no "charges" have been filed. Civilians can't file fraud charges against anyone, let alone a sitting President of the United States. It was a criminal complaint that the FBI is most likely going to read through and then put in the trash, as it's composed of made-up bullshit.

And Lamberth didn't grant anything. He told her to refile because she fucked up...again. The SSN story is nonsense.

[MyMaeve]

@DoubleTalkingJive I have the scan of the results from the Social Security Verification System on my Scribd account showing it was never issued to him . . . so whatever. Hoover said, "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so big they can't believe it exists."

[SaneBoomer]

@MyMaeve

After reading on this affair now for a couple of days, it feels like i'm on about page 89 of a le Carré novel ;beginning to recognize a plot line, but no sure clue yet as to the bigger picture. But it looks generational, and peels like an onion. After listening to Wayne Madsen, on the run for his life as a marked man, it seems best to act as if encountering a grizzly with cubs on the bank of a salmon run - back away, back carefully away.

[StompingRabbits]

@DoubleTalkingJive - That "birth certificate" is phonier then a 3 dollar bill and nearly the whole world knows it, it was computer generated! Hawaii is refusing to allow reporters to see the original on file, why? Why would Hawaii refuse reporters to see a document already purported to be in the public domain? Why will they not release Bozo's mother's hospital records for the day that he was born? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark with this.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

@StompingRabbits Obama's mother's hospital records are protected by HIPPA laws. Have you been following this conversation?

And wow...another Birther accusing both Obama and a State government of committing a felony. Looks like the FBi is gonna have its hands full....

Wtf...

[Magnus2552112]

@DoubleTalkingJive Normally you would be correc. It was the White House Website that “posted” the $3 Bill fake Birth Certificate not the State of Hawaii. Moreover, it was Hobama that said this is “my” Long Form Birth Certificate that can be found in the (Federal Governments) run Website for the White House not the State of Hawaii. The State of Hawaii “did not” go public with this at all. Full Faith and credit does not apply and there are 13 "naked eye" errors that are not found on "others".

[MyFriendLeonard1]

Not one lie out of Corsi's mouth. Not one. But watch Obama, who can't tell the truth to save his soul, win on this issue. He might even win re-election! And so, that's just the way of the world. And a soulless demoniac like Obama knows exactly how to take full advantage of it.

Meanwhile, I'm shocked by how optimistic Corsi is. If what he sees happening pans out, then he'll have taken me to school, in a very major way!

[joebananatube]

Where's homeland security? Isn't this a national security issue? Do other law breakers get to go on as usual? Don't they usually get thrown in jail until a judge figures things out? The longer he remains in office the more damage he can do. There's more evidence that he's guilty than not. What do we pay the FBI, and USDOJ and, CIA for?

[ImpeachAllCriminals]

@joebananatube They are the very bunch responsible & protect the serial lying usurping Chicago thug Muslim!

[continuityofliberty]

What's cool about Corsi is that he intuitively addresses possible criticisms as part of the answers he gives - kind of a preemptive refutation of the snarky little attacks people use to avoid considering the issue.

[MyFriendLeonard1]

@continuityofliberty Shame the media won't allow him a bigger stage on which to demonstrate this ability.

[mikestheman3]

The more I think about it, where the hell are the Constitutionalists on the BC, citizenship, etc. Where's Glenn Beck, Judge Napolitano and Ron Paul, where are they hiding under rocks? Have some guts guys and speak out, whine about these problems!

[WHENDASHTF]

@mikestheman3 They have all been told that they and their families and close friends and pets will be brutally murdered if they take any action or even speak of it...God Bless America...

[continuityofliberty]

@mikestheman3

I think they're trying to avoid what happened to Debra Media - it's kind of a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario.

[SaneBoomer]

@mikestheman3 = " .. Where's Glenn Beck, Judge Napolitano and Ron Paul.."

I wonder the same. Where's RT? Where are all the alternate media guys? No one, except Jones is touching this with a ten foot pole. Where's Max Keiser? Its not like the evidence is cloudy - its not. Don't they use adobe illustrator, or Photoshop? The evidence is plain as day for all to see. Incredible. AS Phil Berg says, this is the escape hatch. Almost no one is stepping up.

[mikestheman3]

@SaneBoomer David Manning is forming a group of Pastors to STAND UP for We The People, here is another very interesting video:

Dr. Manning interviews Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick

Pass it around!

[SaneBoomer]

@mikestheman3 ; hi Mike, yes, saw the video before, and just listened again. I don't understand how the US grand jury system works, but it seems like the process may have been effectively neutered in the matter. Time will tell i guess. Manning really intensely dislikes BHO, that part is very clear.

[mikestheman3]

EXCELLENT interview, God Bless them for their courage, get that Kenyan!

[jakerocheleau]

barackie obammy bamma mamma is gonna have to own up to this. hard. and I dont think 500MM americans enjoy being lied to.